BEST Force Deck! Chirrut Red Deep Dive and Update
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2024
- Chirrut Red - Winning With The Force
I present the update to my Chirrut Red list, complete with card breakdowns and detailed matchup tips!
This is a deep dive of the Chirrut Red build. I hope you enjoy this deck as much as I do!
Check out the original list and video here: • BEST Force Throw Deck ...
Deck list Link: swudb.com/deck/view/AhlrltpKr
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THANK YOU!!! For the side boarding against different leaders… this is where the real knowledge is. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
My pleasure!
Took Chirrut Red to store showdown and won! Such a fun deck!
Congrats!
This has been my favorite deck to play so far. Thanks for awesome insights into the matchups.
My pleasure!
U were my inspiration while picking chirrut to play month ago, I played a lot and won my store showdown with him so cant wait to see what u change
Congrats! That's awesome
Love me some Churro! Great video and always appreciate your insights on the deck 🫡
Thank you!
This is super super helpful as someone who hasn't opened a ton of the top chase cards but HAS somehow found two Lukes in back to back drafts and therefore has been drawn to Chirrut! He seems awesome
He's great! And those are some nice packs!
Like others said, it was your original Chirrut vid that put me into him. The build is great, but I defo gotta keep practicing against the Bobas. I still think he’s the most fun deck in the set, the lines and card combos are just the most satisfying imo! Thanks for putting it together.
He really is fun! Hopefully we get more force stuff for him soon.
Thank you!! I'm the Chirrut main at my LGS, so this is great!
Thank you!
Hey, I took your deck to showdown and managed to achieve top4! It was super close in the semi-final vs Iden Red but I lost 1-2! Thanks for your guides and deck
Nice! Congrats
Thank you for your great content!
Glad you enjoy it!
Just won my store showdown thx to all your work on Chirrut! ❤
Awesome!
Love you Chirrut Content Wooooo. Great work!
I’ve won 2 FLG tournies with him both times undefeated.
The card I think that’s a secret sause to this deck though is Spark of Rebellion. Yeah it’s very expensive but vs boba or double control it can cripple them if you play it resource 4 or 5 turn before chirrut comes out and force throws. You also get to know what’s in their hand to see if you can make them force throw a high value card. I sideboard it and only run 1 or 2 and it’s won me games each time. Or late game right before super laser blast.
Always thought that card was going to a bit out of aspect card!
I found it tough to justify it at 4 cost because it would slow down the main game plan too much. I was thinking vs control it might be interesting, but found that the deck won't put enough pressure against them if it takes most of it's turn off playing it. I don't think we can generally afford to spend that many resources vs Boba without getting run over by their giant flip turn too. Great to see that it has proven successful though!
I struggled with chirrut in lasts weeks weekly final against kramnic green control. I used your side deck options yesterday and won the weekly, winning the last two games with sidedeck options against the control deck and aggro (sabine green) 😊
Nice!
My only loss at the Store Championship today was to this deck.
Hey wooooo! Thanks again for the helpful video! I'm playing Chirrut since day one and I love the deck even though I struggle with it sometimes. I finished 9th in my local showdown just outside of the top 8 unfortunately but I had a blast with the deck getting clean wins vs Sabine, Green Boba and Green Vader. My main problem nowadays seems to be Cunning Boba. This deck feels way harder than the Green variant. Any tips/adjustments for this? Thanks in advance!
Glad you're enjoying the deck! due to cunning Boba having 9 bounce effects, buffing non-Chirrut units is really dangerous. Also, Obi-Wan is a pretty big liability here because we can't risk him getting bounced by Cunning or Cantina Bouncer, so he's probably a cut post-board. You also need to consider resourcing non-units the first couple turns to possibly brick their Bodhi.
Hey wooooo, I’m going to take Chirrut to our first showdown this weekend. Thanks for your insights, very helpful. You say that you won’t take this exact list to every tournament, I guess your are talking about some main choices like the disabling fang fighter that can vary?
I tweak things often for what I expect to face!
Managed to win my first showdown (24 players). I have cut the Vigilance’s ( felt to slow for me against aggro ) and played Vanquish main. Added 2xDevotion to sideboard. As I was facing a lot of control like Vader and Palpatine those really helped. Undefeated vs Sabine (3x) and Han Green in the finals.
Do you Mulligan aggressively for any specific cards? Force throw?
I mulligan for a good curve. 2 drop to 3 drop is really important, and vs sabine in particular I want open fire. Force throw is the best card in the deck, but without your unit curve in the 1st 3 turns, it won't save you.
@@iamwoooooMany thanks. Great job at the tournament the other week. Would have loved to see you win. 👍🏻
I've been playing a pretty different take on Chirrut red which is probably less competitively viable but more fun for me. Guardian of the Whills has been my mvp. Obviously it's pretty vulnerable to removal but the upgrade discount makes it really versatile. On turn 1 you can play resilient to buff it for free, on turn 2 you can give Guardian a lightsaber and still have a resource left over for Force throw or buff it again with resilient. I don't even maindeck Kanan or Yoda anymore, I prefer to run devotion and resilient which I can pile on Guardian in the early game and then pile on Chirrut after deploy.
Very all in strategy! Glad you're having success
I got my 5fth place today at local showdown, I love this leader and I'm playing him since the launch of the game. BUT I had a lot of difficulty control deck control like Palpa-Yellow and Iden-Blue. Do you have some tips, other then you said in the video?
Btw, THANKS, I loved the video
Mostly focus on the hand disruption and push as aggressively as possible. The tools are there but those decks also have the right answers, so no easy answer there!
What are your thoughts on using R2 over the 2 cost rebel sabateur? Love the sideboard diacussions, i find starting the game with the right 2 and 3 cost cards against each specific matchup is the key with this deck.
R2 is in this version. I think the last turn 1 play is pretty flexible.
I just wanted to double check, if Chirrut gives +2 health to Yoda… he takes 3 damage, at the end of the phase. He still has 3 damage right? 2 of those don’t fall off do they?
That’s correct. Chirrut is just giving extra temporary health. Does not effect damage on the unit.
@@savagedragn👍🏻
Yep!
How often do you find you need that 7/8 cost self force throw? I like the look of the deck (its also the only competitive deck I own even close to the cards for), but I'm short a Luke/Mace. Wondering whether to sub with a 3rd Redemption for the 8 cost or go with an otherwise more useful curve unit?
I think another curve filler is fine, the main plan for throw is not to 2 for 1 yourself, more an option when you can get a big blow out on an important unit.
@@iamwooooo Thanks! Having lost 2 test games to drawing no turn 1 play, I'm rather tempted to go Guardian of the Wills as another cheap force body. But maybe I'm overcompensating for unusually bad mulligan luck.
How often do you find yourself using Chirrut's ability? I feel like it would mainly be useful using it on Baze in the aggro matchup
It's pretty situational. Solid with Baze, works with It Binds All Things, and sometimes useful to "soft pass."
Curious about some deck tech thoughts.... Open Fire > Aggression? card draw should be worth the extra 1 cost?? and any desire to sideboard Change of Heart
Aggression would cost 6 in this deck, and Change of Heart would cost 8, so I don't really view them as powerful enough for the archetype.
Any thoughts on iden blue? Most matchups i see a chance of winning but i got blown out. It can just remove every unit no matter how much discard i use.
Will be the same strategy against any of these hard control decks. Deploy on curve, try to blow up their hand with Throw/K2/Forced surrender. The games they get you feel bad, and sometimes they just have on-curve answers in to the board wipe.
I saw Rebel Pathfinder was swapped for R2D2. Can you talk about that strategy?
Any thoughts behind no saboteur?
The 10th turn 1 play is just there for more consistency, chose R2 because having a 1 drop to squeeze in sometimes in the curve felt a bit more helpful than having the 2/3 unit.
What would you recommend vs. a lucky Thrawn that always taps Chirrut? :)
An audible sigh
What in your thoughts of Chirrut over luke of the same deck type as this?
I think Chirrut works much better than Luke in this archetype. He is a much more consistent force enabler and his cheap deploy helps him brawl with Sabine and Boba decks.
hi, just approached the game, do u think this deck still good to play? i dunno what deck i should play, deciding between chirrut and vader blue
It's definitely still good. A new set does come out in 6 weeks though which will drastically alter the meta.
@@iamwooooo to begin, is it worth to buy a box or directly cardsfor the deck
@@thomassikder6086 in my experience, buying singles is cheaper than buying sealed packs. Really depends on your goals and if you enjoy opening packs.
@@iamwooooo ty
I've played a Chirrut red list for a while and it's getting destroyed by heavy control decks, my meta is very heavy control and didnt find a solution against that even with maining K2 and force surrender. I think sparks of rebellion may be an answer though.
Worth a shot, but I think paying 4 for it will slow us down too much and we won't be able to apply enough pressure.
When I’ve had trouble against Chirut it’s been the pressure on my base health. I play Palpatine blue. I agree though, if I see Chirut on the other side I’m generally feeling good.
The discard is a big deal though. I have to hold a cheap card in hand to feed to your force throw and post board need to be thinking about things like forced surrender.
If you’re not closing the game out in the current or next round, choosing discard in K2 is also really constraining for the control player. They’re having to be super careful about how they deploy their cards.
@@savagedragn yeah I've had some problems pushing damages to the base before playing force surrender, at drop 6, they often have a lot of options and force surrender feels often like a bad timing.
@@MeepleonFire same. Often got to points where dealing any damage at all was hard because they just kill what ever I play. Tempo and cost doesn’t matter when you have 10 resources but cannot keep anything alive long enough to attack.
@@savagedragn i have found palp to be beatable. The discard is definitely very relevant, but sometimes the pure aggro start just gets there too.
We like Vigilance for the 6 cost? We have to pay a penalty for that right?
Yep it costs 6, but still worth it in my opinion.
@iamwooooo thanks for the reply. I'm building the deck out now to play at a weekly tonight!
I'm confused why you say K2 is a blank card in the aggro match up
We aren't the aggressor in that match up so we really can't be spending 4 resources on a card that doesn't impact the board particularly well. We need to be either removing enemy units or trying to stick a restoring threat.
How do u play vs a blu iden? Like vs Vader blu?
Yes, mostly the same way. Takedown is more important in this match up because it can instantly defeat Iden, but the overall plan remains the same.
Last night I played vs 2 Iden blues and 1 Vader blue, went 2-1, 0-2, 2-1. Very glad I had maindecked both Fangs. Main issue I had was Avenger coming down game1 was autoloss. I never had more than 1 useful unit stick, so Avenger just blew it up and then no Vanquish and no more Force Throw damage. Would a maindeck Vanquish hurt too much into other matchups?
Hrmm, OTOH, today's local store showdown final was Sabine red v Sabine yellow, so maybe hurting my Sabine matchup isn't the way to go.
I think playing vanquish is reasonable.
The more I play this game the more I realize that Cunning Boba has blowout plays against every deck in the meta right now.
While I do think Cunning Boba is great, I'm not exactly sure what it has to do with Chirrut :)
@@iamwooooo you mentioned the boba matchup - Baze as an include. Super relevant into green boba but cunning boba can just bounce Baze.
@@rebelresource All bobas can bounce 🤷🏻♂️.
@@rebelresource yeah more bounce hurts, but no ramp means we deploy same turn. That trade off is generally okay. Try to play around Bodhi early if possible.
@@iamwooooo Yeah makes sense - resource the non units.
I absolutely can't understand how you think this list is favoured against Han. I get manhandled every time. 😅
This list ramps so quickly and has so many nasty units. I don't know how I should destroy their hand. Should I play Force Throw prior to having a force unit? By turn 3/4 when I can start playing force throw with a force unit or K-2SO the match is already pretty much lost.
I haven't felt like Han gets out of hand. Our early game matches well enough in to their early units, and our removal is quite strong against greedy ramp lines. Our flip turn is very strong vs them a well. Han also doesn't have good ways to deal with a geared up Chirrut. I still feel favored here, and targeting their hand is a powerful strategy if they start using resources to ramp.
I think it depends a lot on the draws. If the top deck cards are exactly what they need (Home One or Hans) it's tough.
I started to bring out Chirrut earlier and managed to finally win a match. Maybe I interpreted the advise to not deploy Chirrut before their hand is destroyed in a wrong way. 😃
But nonetheless a very fun list, can't wait to take it to the upcoming store championships. 🤘😃