Zeltik, I noticed that out of all the videos you've uploaded, A Link to the Past has very few mention except for like small mentions and whatnot. Please add more A Link to the Past?
Maybe the new giant trees are the kokiri. The kokiri evolved into the forest itself. A theory with no real evidence, but I think it'd be kinda cool if the forest species turned into the forest itself after hundreds of years. Maybe some kind of dark magic caused them to transform.
@@omorifan6011 not true Skywards swords ancient cistern is often considered one of the best dungeons in the series and the TP lakebed temple is seen as ok
I like to think the kokiri realized they could leave the forest and are now hidden in plain sight. Whether or not she’s a kokiri, I 100% believe that Agitha was at least meant to be a reference to them in Twilight Princess. There’s three women in castle town who share a unique feature that I believe to be a nod to their missing people in TP; Agitha, Telma, and Fanadi all share the trait of having three dots under their eyes (Green, red-orange, and purple of course). Agitha is a child who lives alone with a giant tree in her house and has a fascination with glowing insects (like fairies perhaps?). Telma has red hair and the symbol on her apron could be interpreted as a stylized gerudo symbol. Fanadi has a weeping eye symbol on her forehead and red eyes, a common trait among the sheikah. Also, Fanadi's original japanese name was "Imparess", a play on Impa's name.
you know... green as green, red-orange as just red and purple as violet which is similar to blue... and you have the three godesses. You could go on with this and think that they took the form of those lost races to revive them via birthing
I’m surprised you never mention that the boss room tree looks greyed out compared to other trees in the temple - the same way the Great Deku Tree was after it died - and inside the boss room looks incredibly similar to the watery basement of the Great Deku Tree (metal grates and all). I’d say this is the strongest argument for the Temple being Kokiri Forest. The figure on the artwork looks more to me like one of the Monkeys rather than a fairy - perhaps depicting a Monkey using the wind powers of the boomerang. It could also be Faron the light spirit itself, being that Faron is a monkey in this game.
I love these twilight princess theories. I feel like twilight princess is one of the most mysterious zelda games, as the temples and bosses are never really quite explained...
Zelda in general is guilty of Rule of Cool: introduce something, slap “sacred” or “temple” onto it, then moonwalk backstage. That ain’t mystery, that’s them not caring to really give any context for something they consider to be “just a level.” But…the racial conflict in TP and how portions of Gerudo and Twili and Sheikah symbols and the Mirror itself and the Kokiri symbol turn up absolutely everywhere once you know how to spot it? Now THAT tells a super interesting subtext story and goes well with the core themes of the game.
@@anonymousfellow8879 eh, I feel like having something open-ended like this *is* what makes it good. If you explain a mystery, it takes the fun out of it. There would be no theories, nobody would have to take the time to think about all the implications.
@@mohammedu7105But why do people have to do that for dungeons specifically? There's plenty to theorize about already excluding them. And it's not like they'd have to give us much, all they'd have to do is leave a few hints of what it was, like in OOT and some of TP. Some OOT dungeons are VERY clear with what they were, yet people still theorize about them. Idk, this fear of not having something to theorize about if they told us too much about the dungeons is silly.
The more accurate comparison to Kokiri Village is actually Ordon Village. The entire design of it actually fits perfectly. The exception to this being the ranch.
@@IamCanadian3333 That would explain the ranch. However it would not explain the location, house locations and styles, and most blatant in particular, Link’s House which is just an expanded version of the OoT house.
@@rezahydra Locations in TP are quite different than other Zelda titles. Hyrule Encylopedia actually hints that massive shifts in land occur between eras which accounts for different locations, and in TP's case, the massive chasms we occasionally see in the land. The Temple of Time itself is seemingly moved from Castle Town to the Lost Woods. I speculate this is because maybe the Temple of Time should not be so close to the general public.
@@IamCanadian3333 I mean specifically in reference to OoT. You can align the map in many different ways to fit with OoT, even counting Temple of Time (though as said in the video, Sacred Grove/Lost Woods doesn’t make sense by nature), but none of them have Ordon in the location of Lon Lon. Kokiri Village on the other hand? There’s certainly a few. Though this I will deny is the least prominent point. The house styles and locations, even with the stream in the middle scream Kokiri Village in every way. And that’s without mentioning again Link’s own home which is just the same thing but expanded to now be a true full house compared to the OoT counterpart
If we conclude, that the Forest Temple and the Temple of Time are all included in the massively expanded lost woods and considering the woods being as magical as they are, we could just as well conclude, that the Kokiri are still living in the Lost Woods, but in a part that the woods won't let outsiders into. The Link in OoT was an exception, as he grew up with the Kokiri, but Twilight Princess Link, who is a grown ass almost-adult with no connection to the Hero of Time other than his spirit, would not enjoy that privilege.
This might be total crap, but perhaps by TP, the Kokiri, under the guardianship of their new Deku Tree, had already taken the form of Koroks. Without the Great Flood, it might seem unnecessary, but Breath of the Wild proves that some evolutions may occur even if what we perceive as their original cause, don't happen; the Rito evolved from the Zora, due to the aforementioned flood, yet in BotW both they AND the Zora still live side by side. BotW's own spot in said time line might be questionable for some, but in it, regardless of time, the Kokiri are gone, and the Koroks exist. The point of this is that, in BotW, most people cannot SEE the Koroks; they are basically unnoticeable to all but a few souls, and can linger practically anywhere. Even that Link, who can see Koroks, can't ALWAYS see them; they may duck and hide from him, as he approaches, or wait till he's finished their game to reveal their presence. Even when moving around to get him to give chase, they make an effect for him to follow, but aren't themselves visible. While it might seem like a trait only the BotW Koroks have, maybe the TP Koroks also have it, and due to their nature, or the danger in the world, they are simply hidden. They don't have a history with this Link, and even many who might've been present to see Link c l aim the Master Sword, in BotW, still avoid Mr. Hero, just because that's how they normally are. Perhaps they are there, but just invisible; waiting and watching to see what type of turn the world will take.
Yeah I like this! With the Fused Shadow under their care, and with Hylians now settled in Ordon, they may have felt the need to take a less conspicuous form and perhaps retreat further into the woods.
Agreed, I like this concept of Koroks (or any iteration of forest spirits) being hidden and mysterious. From what I recall, the Kokiri and the Koroks are referred to as “forest spirits” which, to me, makes their physical appearance more arbitrary.
kinda tangential but maybe also evidence to this point, The Rito in BotW may very well be Loftwings having finally come to the land of Hyrule given the fact that Zora are also present. Even though the race was present before the cause of their existence was very different. Koroks would have 3 reasons by this logic; WW is a form taken to help maintain nature across the islands, BotW was to become hidden in plain sight, TP would be due to dwelling entirely in the forest and result of the Wind Fairy.
I need this for every twilight princess temple. Those temples are so deep in lore and style that you could make this a series and have every episode be as interesting as this one!
I've always thought it likely that the skull kid we encounter in Twilight Princess could be THE GHOST OF the skull kid from Ocarina of Time/ Majora's Mask. The lantern he carries as he leads us deeper and deeper into the forest is nearly identical to the one's the poes carry in TP, plus I just get the sense Skull Kid is supposed to the one and only of his kind. I think It would be so fittingly eery and sad to imagine skull kid waiting decades upon decades for his favorite playmate to wander back into the woods, even in the afterlife. I always got the sense the way he immediately starts to f*ck with Link even while trying to help that he felt it was a reunion.
Add that he plays Saria's song with his trumpet when you are searching for him in the Sacred Grove and that you teach him that very song in Ocarina of Time.
And the fact in TP, his face doesn't look like its actually his face at all, but another...mask. Any skull kid we always saw had the red eyes and an orange...beak, the rest was blacked out. OOT, Majora's Mask....but in TP...wait a minute. Skull Kid's face resembles the freaking Moon that was about to crash in Majora's mask.
@@volcom137z I mean to be fair its a decent strategy, if someone's only played on the switch, to them it'll be a brand new game. And as much as I like twilight princess, skyward sword does have a bit more content as far as quests and things
@@snek616 It's clear now that Nintendo is reviving all their OG franchises. Skyward Sword is moving copies like never before. Probaly didn't help that it released the same time as Skyrim at the time. Metroid Dread will bring the Metroid franchise life and sales it has never seen before.
@@volcom137z that's definitely true, though I'm interested in how they'll bring the DS games to switch. More powerful hardware means they have the space for a massive overhaul, so I'm intrigued by what they'll do after BOTW 2
I don't mind sponsored ads of mobile games, sometimes it's even for a game I already play and I sit to listen how they're trying to sell their game to new players… except from Raid Shadow Legends. As soon as I heard "shadow" I was like "oh no". Raid Shadow Legends is proven garbage so no thank you. Thank god Zeltik is nice enough to put timestamps for easy skip.
Since we're on the subject, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the Sacred Grove from TP, which are theorized by some to be the ruins Ocarina of Time's Castle Town due to the stone ruins surrounding the area and of course the appearance of the Temple of Time. It's been theorized that the Castle Town in TP isn't the same Castle Town from OoT and that the Royal Family migrated north after the events of OoT (possibly due to some sort of war with Ganondorf and/or the Gerudo that left the original Castle Town devastated), which explains why Death Mountain is to the east in TP rather than to the north like it is in virtually every other Zelda game. It could be theorized that after the Hylians moved north, the ruins of original Castle Town were overgrown by woods and became the Sacred Grove. Though of course there are some things that do contradict this, such as the locations of Zora's Domain, Zora River, and Lake Hylia (but that could just be explained away as typical Zelda geographic fuckery), but I always thought it was an interesting theory nonetheless as I can think of no other explanation as to why the Temple of Time somehow moved from HCT to being surrounded by a huge forest (also the location of the Sacred Grove on TP's map in relation to Death Mountain and Faron/Ordon Woods kinda makes sense). I know this doesn't have much to do with the video in question, but watching it did makes me think of this and didn't have anywhere else to post it.
Perhaps the Sacred Grove isn't actually geographically where it appears to be, but Link gets teleported to its actual location via Lost Woods magic much like in OoT how Link can get to Death Mountain and Zora's Domain from the Lost Woods?
Maybe it's the ToT that moved? It's a temple guarding the gateway to the Sacred Realm. In TP we see that it links to a dungeon that appears to be outside time and space, with golden light gleaming through the windows. One can speculate that the ToT dungeon in TP is the Temple of Light - or at least a portion of it - in the sacred realm. My point is that ToT screws with time/space. The Lost Woods screws with time/space. Seems to reason that either one of those places could end up anywhere else, even together. The ruins around the temple in TP could be a portion of HCT that the ToT took with it when it moved. However, TP clearly establishes a connection between OoT and ALttP by showing the Master Sword in a wooded grove just like it appears in ALttP, alluding that the ruins of the ToT decayed completely by the time of ALttP leaving only the Master Sword in its pedestal in the Sacred Grove. But people often wonder how the forest got from eastern Hyrule in OoT to western Hyrule in ALttP. But if you look at the fog of war surrounding Castle Town on the Hyrule Atlas in OoT, you can see a small line of trees behind the clouds just to the west of Hyrule Castle... there's a forest there.
I've always considered that the Kokiri left their part of the forest when Hylian moved too close. Ordon is a relatively new expansion into what had previously been "uninhabited" woodland, and it might be that the Kokiri considered this a threat and, not being particulary militaristic, moved far deeper into the lost woods to avoid conflict, assuming that the fused shadow would stay hidden and protected by the monkeys.
Twilight Princess has always been my favorite Zelda game, but I have never really fully realized the sheer massive SCALE of Faron woods in the game. Great video, thanks Zeltik!
For the fate of the Kokiri, I feel they already left the Faron woods, taking the young Deku Tree with them. They went on to establish the Kokiri Forest and the Lost Woods in a new region to the north, northwest. This could explain why in games like A Link to the Past and BotW, the Lost woods are in an entirely different area across the map
there's another reason why the Kokiri/Korok's aren't seen in TP. Koroks normally can't be seen by people, either being invisible to them, hidden from sight, or are disguised as something else. TP Link simply might not have the ability to see them, and thus we can't see them either. For all we know, they could have been right under our nose the entire time.
My theory is that all the large trees are husks of dead deku trees. The tree dies and reincarnates through a sapling again and again. Odds are the deku and Kokiri are still there, but are deep in the giant tree forest. We don’t go there so we never see them.
Yesssss!!!! Can you please do more Twilight princess videos as it was my first ever Zelda game and My God was is an incredible first experience that drew me into the LOZ mythology
Just started a new TPHD Hero mode playthrough so this is perfect timing. Twilight Princess truly has such an eerie and melancholic atmosphere. I hadn’t played the game since 2006/07 so seeing everything again after so much time was pretty surreal. More Twilight Princess plz, Zeltik! 🖤
Would love a video focusing on the Skull Kid himself. Personally think he has some interesting lore and backstory in both Termina and Hyrule, not to mention the mystery of his presence in TP.
Another thing to remember is that in OoT, only a person with a fairy could safely enter and leave the forest. Of course, that doesn't explain how Link's mother and the Master Craftsman's Son got through, though it might be that either of them never encountered the Kokiri altogether. That being said, Twilight Princess Link probably never would have been able to enter and meet a Kokiri.
I had an idea about the Koroks: what if the Kokiri didn't become them in a literal, "magic transformation" sense? Rather, what if the difference is simply that the Koroks are all the children of the new Deku Tree? Heck, maybe all the children of different Deku Trees look different. Would explain the hell out of those racoon-plant guys.
I get the feeling that the Kokiri are still around. But perhaps they are no longer visible to the naked eye and exist as just fairy spirits. Or they faded away to become the woodlands themselves and the monkeys are a kind of homage to them. Since the Gerudo are no longer around to our knowledge and we don't see them in the desert, the Kokiri may also just not be around anymore either due to the passage of centuries.
I think Ordon is to the Southwest of the Lost Woods. I think that Link, unable to live in his childhood home, lived in Ordon and built a new forest temple there, using the Kokiri marks of his childhood to honor the Kokiri and the Great Deku Tree. The Hero of Time given Faroe's blessing had the province flourish.
My thought is that the forest temple is the husk of the old deku tree (there is even a pond inside at the bottem in both games), Ordon is Kokiri village inhabited by hylians, the Temple of Time's entrance is the OoT's sacred medow (You enter a portal to the interior of the Temple of Time), and the only one "alive" to remember how to find it is Oot/MM's Skull Kid. Edit: It is possible that some oher disaster rolles through between Oot and TP, causing the giant chasms in the forest which as a preservation measure, had the kokiri become koroks. No longer needing to protect the kokiri or their emerald, the curse of the lost woods dissapates, allowing both adults and bokoblins to enter freely.
The wind designs on the doors are based on the Kokiri's emerald from oot, and same thing for goron mines and lakebed temple, they have Goron's Ruby and Zora's Sapphire on the doors.
The kokiri aren't missing. The kokiri are effectively "dead" in the sense that they rely on there being a deku tree to exist. They are "children" of the forest and children need a parent. No deku tree, no kokiri. They're basically kodama but their existence is tied to a specific tree rather than any ancient tree. The idea that the whole area is functionally the lost woods is an interesting one. Seems to suggest that without the deku tree around it goes a bit wild. Meaning the deku tree was suppressing the lost woods. Meaning the lost woods is a magical entity or phenomenon unto itself. Cool idea.
My theory: I feel like the Kokiri “forever children” are actually just forest spirits created by the Deku tree to help the Deku tree in any way, like raise Link (for Link wasn’t like the kokiri, cause he was a normal Hylian). So with each new Deku tree comes with different helping forest spirits to fit the trees needs. Down the lineage of Link, we see that link is no longer living in the forest but with his own kind (Hylians). So the Deku tree lineage didn’t need to create the Kokiri children because they simply didn’t need to take care of Link. I feel that the Skull kids and the monkeys are just spirits that live in the Deku tree domain but aren’t as connected to the tree as the Kokiri, for they a little bit more free will and can leave the forest (Kokiri could not leave). Now for Sarah, I feel that the Deku tree was attached because Ganon thought for sure that he was the sage of the forest. But because Sarah was also a Kokiri, the Deku past that responsibility on to her because he knew he would be the first target. And that is why when all the Kokiri vanished and not Sarah was because she was still holding on to the last piece of the Deku tree that kept the forest sage lineage alive. Now fairies (not healing fairies, like that from the great fairies foutains).The fairies guide the Kokiri but fairies have a bit more free will than the Kokiri (major’s mask). The fairies seemed to only want to be with forest spirits which is why Skull kid had a better connection with the fairies than Link did in Mejor mask. And Link couldn’t get a fairy on his own, which is why the Deku tree ordered Navi to help you outside the forest. So when link got his fairy of course the Kokiri were shocked and happy cause it meant that Link could be a forest spirit after all. But this wasn’t the case for Navi was ordered to help carry out the mission, that’s it. Last thing, I refer to the Kokiri as helping spirits with no other purpose, but that’s an understatement. I feel the the Deku tree loves them because they are apart of him and gave them a bit of freewill (like how they behave). So in other words the Kokiri are his children and that is why there is such a strong connection between the Kokiri and the Deku. Sarah could have been the most favorite because of how fairly she treated Link when he was growing up, which is why she was closest with the tree in spirit receiving the honor of sage. Short: Kokiri are just spirts connected to the tree, and are there to help the tree in every way possible, and when the new Deku tree rises, new spirits take form.
Maybe its possible that the Kokiri DID still evolve into the Koroks, and are in the forrest/temple, but we just can't see them. It's implied in Breath of the Wild that Koroks cannot be seen by most humans, and only children can see them. Link in that game seems to be a rare exception, and can see them, but maybe that's not always the case. In Wind Waker, Link is a child, so he can see them just fine, but maybe because he's an adult in Twilight Princess, they are around him, but completely invisible to him. This could explain Kokiri imagery, but no sign of them in the game
What if the kokiri/koroks were there, but since this Link isn't a child (and I guess not pure enough of heart?), he could see them. Just a little theory.
Another brilliant video Zeltik! Coincidentally, I've actually been working on a script about the forest temple, potentially being the great Deku tree from OOT. But now, after seeing your video, you've pretty much debunked then entire theory I was going to cover XD There is a small bit of evidence that the Deku tree does appear in TP. The boss room where you fight Diababa, is supposed to be inside the remains of the great Deku tree, as the room looks like the basement from OOT. If you could hit me up at some point, I would like to talk to you more about it!
What if the deku tree became corrupted by the fused shadow after being trusted to protect it, and its evil transformation was to expand and grow the lost woods, expanding its reach to 'lose' more unknowing souls within. Souls that are consumed and lost forever. And since the deku tree was the first to be cursed in OoT, maybe it was the first place to be cursed in Twilight Princess too, possibly years before the zora and gorons? A fun ponderous theory.
Hey Zeltik! I have a interesting idea: Daruk must know something about Death Mountain. It shivered one day sending boulders down that nearly crushed him and Link. Is there something lurking underneath the fiery, flaming volcano? Ganon? Dragons? Dodongos? Hmmmmm🤔🤔🤔
Guys. I’ve wanted to play twilight princess for so long. Actually owned it when I was 7. Should I wait for a port to actually happen or is there any emulators that I should look into?
dont bother with the original, i would look into getting the HD version so you can either wait for a port that may or may not happen or get a wii u pre owned with twilight princess HD
You can definitely emulate the gamecube version with Dolphin. The HD version doesn't add much, just an amiibo-locked dungeon and some marginally better graphics, but if you can find a Wii U emulator and ROM, go for it.
I'd like to add to this. The Fairy of Winds was placed in the forest temple to guard the Fused Shadow. Her abilities are only corrupted after Ook got hold of her, so maybe the reason why she was there was to ward off anyone from getting close. However when the twilight descended upon Hyrule the Fused Shadows began growing in strength. (Who knows, maybe they had been put into slumber by the Light Spirits only to awaken when they came into contact with the magic of twilight). The dark aura that surrounds the Gale Boomerang looks very similar to the dark aura surrounding the Fused Shadows. Basically what I'm proposing is this: The Light Spirits sealed away the Fused Shadows' power, then gave the artefacts to the three races to protect. The Fairy of Winds is chosen by the Deku Tree (now fully grown) to assist in guarding the dark magic, and so she resides in a forest temple built under the Deku Tree's orders to protect the outside world from the power, (should it ever awaken). Zant appears and twilight descends. The Fused Shadows recognise the denizens of the twilight as the people who created them, and they awaken. The Zora's piece beckons an eel (or maybe a creature similar to Morpha) to come into contact with it, creating Morpheel. The Goron's piece shakes the mountain drawing the Goron leaders to it, only to corrupt Darbus with it's malice. The Kokiri piece (already protected by the Fairy of Winds) seals away the fairy's power, infects the mind of the leader of the monkeys that live there (I have no ideas as to why they are there(you guys can figure that out)) and finds a Deku Baba to posses. By the time Link lifts the twilight on Faron Woods its already too late. The Fused Shadows are awake and causing chaos across Hyrule.
When a kokiri dies, it turns into a tree. Although I heard that somewhere in a theory. And since this game takes places a few centuries after ocarina of time, the trees (deceased kokiri) would have grown to large sizes.
I believe that the fused shadow has stopped Deku trees from growing, instead causing them too grow into normal trees, thus causing the Kokiri to disappear
With starting out the exact same as Vortexxy's theory i thought it was going to end with the same conclusion, so i didn't expect it to change but i was excited to see that there was more to be analyzed
The forest in Twilight Princess, IMO, is the same as in OoT/beginning of MM, but hundreds/thousands of years later. The forest is still magical and have expend. The difference between Link in OoT/MM and TT is OoT Link lived in the forest for years with the Kokiri and basically knows it while TT Link doesn't know it since he didn't live with the Kokiri. So, my opinion of what happen to the Kokiri in TT is they probably move further in the forest with almost no connection with the outside world.
I feel like the fused shadows would have had to be hidden before Ocarina of Time. The Ganondorf in TP is the same one as in OoT and by that point, the twili had already established their civilization.
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My one small theory tied to this on their disappearance, is that they still became kid kororks, planted and grew into the trees you see around the temple. Through whispers they call to the Fairy that becomes Fareor's avatar, the boomerang fairy. Who built, worshipped, and occupied the temple: the monkeys. After all their great ancestor is the chosen one to hold the light even of they aren't aware of the connection.
Maybe between the events of Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess, projector tree made it the Kokiri's responsibility to spread the forest, just like he does when they're koroks and other games. That could explain why the forest has grown so much. So much time has past so much that the Kokiri and the Great Deku Tree are long gone, but the forest they expanded still remains
My theory is that the Great Deku Tree is in the boss room.. but it's dead. After the Kokiri were entrusted with a piece of the fused shadow, the overwhelming dark power eventually could not be contained by the forest deity despite his efforts with magic and the tribe constructing a temple around their home to seal it away. The guardian spirit was ultimately killed. Having no protection any longer the children of the forest had no choice but to leave and vanish deep into the Lost Woods as their home was no longer safe with the fused shadow affecting their forest with it's dark power. I'm sure monsters began to invade their home as well at the same time causing the tribe to become disjointed as they left their home in a panic. And without their guardian to help them.. they lost each other all together as they fled deeper into the woods. As for the Fairy of Winds, perhaps the fairy interacted with the tribe at one point. Providing them assistance with it's wind magic to help the forest and in exchange was given a home and memorialized for it's kindness in providing them aid.
Here's a bit of a theory in line with yours: While it _was_ a place of worship, the Forest Temple was *_willingly abandoned_* by the Kokiri because of how dangerous the Fused Shadow was. How I see it happening: The Kokiri were indeed put in charge of the Fused Shadow piece, and hid it in their temple to keep it safe from outsiders, not knowing how dangerous the thing was. However, there were those who looked a bit further, and *_felt/saw_* just how dangerous the thing was. The Mido and Saria of this iteration realized that this thing would corrupt anyone who tried to wield it or even touch it, and decided to abandon the Forest Temple and retreat further into the wood, with even The Great Deku Tree realizing that this would be too dangerous for the the Kokiri. However, that doesn't mean they would shirk their duty to protect the Fused Shadow Piece. They allowed the monkeys of the forest to live their, entrusting them with the Gake Boomerang as a means to defend the piece of the Fused Shadow. They then left to the Kokiri Forest, sure that Faron Woods were safe. No one could have forseen Ganondorf giving Zant untold power and usurping Midna, then laying siege to Hyrule and the rest if the Light World...
A recent video talked about how there are more souls that reincarnate everytime Gannon makes an appearance. Like Beetle or Impa, the souls of the kokiri were forced to reincarnate in the bodies of the monkeys that inhabited the forest at the time
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Zeltik, I noticed that out of all the videos you've uploaded, A Link to the Past has very few mention except for like small mentions and whatnot. Please add more A Link to the Past?
Maybe the new giant trees are the kokiri. The kokiri evolved into the forest itself. A theory with no real evidence, but I think it'd be kinda cool if the forest species turned into the forest itself after hundreds of years. Maybe some kind of dark magic caused them to transform.
No matter the Zelda title. The temples found in forests are always iconic.
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And the Water Temples are hated in every game
@@omorifan6011 not true
Skywards swords ancient cistern is often considered one of the best dungeons in the series and the TP lakebed temple is seen as ok
@@milanbeerepoot4260 lakebed temple can get annoying and isnt very clear but ancient cistern is no doubt one of the best zelda dungeons
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I like to think the kokiri realized they could leave the forest and are now hidden in plain sight. Whether or not she’s a kokiri, I 100% believe that Agitha was at least meant to be a reference to them in Twilight Princess. There’s three women in castle town who share a unique feature that I believe to be a nod to their missing people in TP; Agitha, Telma, and Fanadi all share the trait of having three dots under their eyes (Green, red-orange, and purple of course). Agitha is a child who lives alone with a giant tree in her house and has a fascination with glowing insects (like fairies perhaps?). Telma has red hair and the symbol on her apron could be interpreted as a stylized gerudo symbol. Fanadi has a weeping eye symbol on her forehead and red eyes, a common trait among the sheikah. Also, Fanadi's original japanese name was "Imparess", a play on Impa's name.
Damn
Agitha seems like the largest stretch, but the other 2 are very plausible
Woah cool find!
you know... green as green, red-orange as just red and purple as violet which is similar to blue... and you have the three godesses.
You could go on with this and think that they took the form of those lost races to revive them via birthing
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Twilight Princess theory... YES PLEASE!
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Exactly what I said!!! Forever my fav game ❤️❤️
@@timthetoolpool nice bait
@@reymondo5259 Utterly failed. Good to know some people still know not to feed the trolls.
One of my favorite things in Zelda theory videos is looking for you in the comment section
I’m surprised you never mention that the boss room tree looks greyed out compared to other trees in the temple - the same way the Great Deku Tree was after it died - and inside the boss room looks incredibly similar to the watery basement of the Great Deku Tree (metal grates and all). I’d say this is the strongest argument for the Temple being Kokiri Forest.
The figure on the artwork looks more to me like one of the Monkeys rather than a fairy - perhaps depicting a Monkey using the wind powers of the boomerang. It could also be Faron the light spirit itself, being that Faron is a monkey in this game.
Deku babas did grow near and in the great deku tree
I thought the same. That tree in the boss room was always suspiciously the most prominent thing in the room besides the large body of water.
I love these twilight princess theories. I feel like twilight princess is one of the most mysterious zelda games, as the temples and bosses are never really quite explained...
Zelda in general is guilty of Rule of Cool: introduce something, slap “sacred” or “temple” onto it, then moonwalk backstage. That ain’t mystery, that’s them not caring to really give any context for something they consider to be “just a level.”
But…the racial conflict in TP and how portions of Gerudo and Twili and Sheikah symbols and the Mirror itself and the Kokiri symbol turn up absolutely everywhere once you know how to spot it?
Now THAT tells a super interesting subtext story and goes well with the core themes of the game.
Truth🤔
@@anonymousfellow8879 eh, I feel like having something open-ended like this *is* what makes it good. If you explain a mystery, it takes the fun out of it. There would be no theories, nobody would have to take the time to think about all the implications.
@@mohammedu7105But why do people have to do that for dungeons specifically? There's plenty to theorize about already excluding them. And it's not like they'd have to give us much, all they'd have to do is leave a few hints of what it was, like in OOT and some of TP. Some OOT dungeons are VERY clear with what they were, yet people still theorize about them. Idk, this fear of not having something to theorize about if they told us too much about the dungeons is silly.
The more accurate comparison to Kokiri Village is actually Ordon Village. The entire design of it actually fits perfectly. The exception to this being the ranch.
Living as a child and working as an adult.
Most seemingly accept that it is in fact Lon Lon Ranch that became Ordon Village.
@@IamCanadian3333 That would explain the ranch. However it would not explain the location, house locations and styles, and most blatant in particular, Link’s House which is just an expanded version of the OoT house.
@@rezahydra Locations in TP are quite different than other Zelda titles. Hyrule Encylopedia actually hints that massive shifts in land occur between eras which accounts for different locations, and in TP's case, the massive chasms we occasionally see in the land.
The Temple of Time itself is seemingly moved from Castle Town to the Lost Woods. I speculate this is because maybe the Temple of Time should not be so close to the general public.
@@IamCanadian3333 I mean specifically in reference to OoT. You can align the map in many different ways to fit with OoT, even counting Temple of Time (though as said in the video, Sacred Grove/Lost Woods doesn’t make sense by nature), but none of them have Ordon in the location of Lon Lon. Kokiri Village on the other hand? There’s certainly a few. Though this I will deny is the least prominent point. The house styles and locations, even with the stream in the middle scream Kokiri Village in every way. And that’s without mentioning again Link’s own home which is just the same thing but expanded to now be a true full house compared to the OoT counterpart
If we conclude, that the Forest Temple and the Temple of Time are all included in the massively expanded lost woods and considering the woods being as magical as they are, we could just as well conclude, that the Kokiri are still living in the Lost Woods, but in a part that the woods won't let outsiders into. The Link in OoT was an exception, as he grew up with the Kokiri, but Twilight Princess Link, who is a grown ass almost-adult with no connection to the Hero of Time other than his spirit, would not enjoy that privilege.
Wouldn't be the blood descendant make any difference?
@@kagari1426 Maybe, maybe not, he hasn't been exposed to Kokiri magic/blessing, nor does he have a fairy.
@@kagari1426 also it was the great deku tree that allowed him able to see the Kokiri.
TP Link is like the great-great-great grandson of OoT Link. They share more than just having the spirit of the Hero.
@@IamSupreme333 Evidence to support this?
This might be total crap, but perhaps by TP, the Kokiri, under the guardianship of their new Deku Tree, had already taken the form of Koroks. Without the Great Flood, it might seem unnecessary, but Breath of the Wild proves that some evolutions may occur even if what we perceive as their original cause, don't happen; the Rito evolved from the Zora, due to the aforementioned flood, yet in BotW both they AND the Zora still live side by side. BotW's own spot in said time line might be questionable for some, but in it, regardless of time, the Kokiri are gone, and the Koroks exist. The point of this is that, in BotW, most people cannot SEE the Koroks; they are basically unnoticeable to all but a few souls, and can linger practically anywhere. Even that Link, who can see Koroks, can't ALWAYS see them; they may duck and hide from him, as he approaches, or wait till he's finished their game to reveal their presence. Even when moving around to get him to give chase, they make an effect for him to follow, but aren't themselves visible. While it might seem like a trait only the BotW Koroks have, maybe the TP Koroks also have it, and due to their nature, or the danger in the world, they are simply hidden. They don't have a history with this Link, and even many who might've been present to see Link c l aim the Master Sword, in BotW, still avoid Mr. Hero, just because that's how they normally are.
Perhaps they are there, but just invisible; waiting and watching to see what type of turn the world will take.
Very well put. And indeed Koroks can happen in any timeline.
Yeah I like this! With the Fused Shadow under their care, and with Hylians now settled in Ordon, they may have felt the need to take a less conspicuous form and perhaps retreat further into the woods.
Thank you! This is the best explanation I've seen!
Agreed, I like this concept of Koroks (or any iteration of forest spirits) being hidden and mysterious. From what I recall, the Kokiri and the Koroks are referred to as “forest spirits” which, to me, makes their physical appearance more arbitrary.
kinda tangential but maybe also evidence to this point, The Rito in BotW may very well be Loftwings having finally come to the land of Hyrule given the fact that Zora are also present. Even though the race was present before the cause of their existence was very different. Koroks would have 3 reasons by this logic; WW is a form taken to help maintain nature across the islands, BotW was to become hidden in plain sight, TP would be due to dwelling entirely in the forest and result of the Wind Fairy.
I need this for every twilight princess temple. Those temples are so deep in lore and style that you could make this a series and have every episode be as interesting as this one!
I've always thought it likely that the skull kid we encounter in Twilight Princess could be THE GHOST OF the skull kid from Ocarina of Time/ Majora's Mask. The lantern he carries as he leads us deeper and deeper into the forest is nearly identical to the one's the poes carry in TP, plus I just get the sense Skull Kid is supposed to the one and only of his kind. I think It would be so fittingly eery and sad to imagine skull kid waiting decades upon decades for his favorite playmate to wander back into the woods, even in the afterlife. I always got the sense the way he immediately starts to f*ck with Link even while trying to help that he felt it was a reunion.
Add that he plays Saria's song with his trumpet when you are searching for him in the Sacred Grove and that you teach him that very song in Ocarina of Time.
There are.multiple skull kids.
Considering that the hero's spirit exists in the game as well, I don't think that's a bad theory at all.
And the fact in TP, his face doesn't look like its actually his face at all, but another...mask.
Any skull kid we always saw had the red eyes and an orange...beak, the rest was blacked out.
OOT, Majora's Mask....but in TP...wait a minute. Skull Kid's face resembles the freaking Moon that was about to crash in Majora's mask.
@@bigjermini I was just thinking that his face looked like the moon from MM as I was reading your comment 😂 what an ‘interesting’ mask for him to pick
"You could call him a Shadow Legend..." Terrible. I love it.
The cough got me.
Thats my kind of joke
You might not like it, but twilight princess has THE most atmospheric dungeons in the game
Other than Lakebed, Lakebed is just water temple deluxe
Would've rather had Twilight Princess than Skyward Sword.😶 I know Nintendo is just sitting on a remastered port.
@@volcom137z I mean to be fair its a decent strategy, if someone's only played on the switch, to them it'll be a brand new game. And as much as I like twilight princess, skyward sword does have a bit more content as far as quests and things
@@snek616 It's clear now that Nintendo is reviving all their OG franchises. Skyward Sword is moving copies like never before. Probaly didn't help that it released the same time as Skyrim at the time. Metroid Dread will bring the Metroid franchise life and sales it has never seen before.
@@volcom137z that's definitely true, though I'm interested in how they'll bring the DS games to switch. More powerful hardware means they have the space for a massive overhaul, so I'm intrigued by what they'll do after BOTW 2
I never realized until now that the TP monkeys have fur on their face in a shape similar to Majora's Mask's eyes.
majora's mask design elements are everywhere in twilight princess.
That was the smoothest ad transition I've ever seen
More importantly, made me laugh.
The way he cleared his throat was so funny
almost as smooth as the segways of Linus
Almost as smooth as me skipping it.
I don't mind sponsored ads of mobile games, sometimes it's even for a game I already play and I sit to listen how they're trying to sell their game to new players… except from Raid Shadow Legends. As soon as I heard "shadow" I was like "oh no". Raid Shadow Legends is proven garbage so no thank you.
Thank god Zeltik is nice enough to put timestamps for easy skip.
I always love that moment when the Deku sprout pops out because Link’s yell is so overdramatic at that moment it makes me laugh every single time.
Twilight princess lost woods are my favorites representation in the serie. You can really feel the vastness of it by looking at the immense trees
Drop everything, there's a new Zeltik Zelda video essay
“Twilight princess’ link travels through both light and shadow. You may consider him as a shadow legend”
*clears throat*
*sponser appears*
Thank you, I haven't reached that part of the video yet
@@newtybot why are you looking through the comments if you haven’t finished the video?
@A B well I don’t think he should if he didn’t want spoilers
Since we're on the subject, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the Sacred Grove from TP, which are theorized by some to be the ruins Ocarina of Time's Castle Town due to the stone ruins surrounding the area and of course the appearance of the Temple of Time. It's been theorized that the Castle Town in TP isn't the same Castle Town from OoT and that the Royal Family migrated north after the events of OoT (possibly due to some sort of war with Ganondorf and/or the Gerudo that left the original Castle Town devastated), which explains why Death Mountain is to the east in TP rather than to the north like it is in virtually every other Zelda game. It could be theorized that after the Hylians moved north, the ruins of original Castle Town were overgrown by woods and became the Sacred Grove. Though of course there are some things that do contradict this, such as the locations of Zora's Domain, Zora River, and Lake Hylia (but that could just be explained away as typical Zelda geographic fuckery), but I always thought it was an interesting theory nonetheless as I can think of no other explanation as to why the Temple of Time somehow moved from HCT to being surrounded by a huge forest (also the location of the Sacred Grove on TP's map in relation to Death Mountain and Faron/Ordon Woods kinda makes sense).
I know this doesn't have much to do with the video in question, but watching it did makes me think of this and didn't have anywhere else to post it.
Perhaps the Sacred Grove isn't actually geographically where it appears to be, but Link gets teleported to its actual location via Lost Woods magic much like in OoT how Link can get to Death Mountain and Zora's Domain from the Lost Woods?
Maybe it's the ToT that moved? It's a temple guarding the gateway to the Sacred Realm. In TP we see that it links to a dungeon that appears to be outside time and space, with golden light gleaming through the windows. One can speculate that the ToT dungeon in TP is the Temple of Light - or at least a portion of it - in the sacred realm.
My point is that ToT screws with time/space. The Lost Woods screws with time/space. Seems to reason that either one of those places could end up anywhere else, even together. The ruins around the temple in TP could be a portion of HCT that the ToT took with it when it moved.
However, TP clearly establishes a connection between OoT and ALttP by showing the Master Sword in a wooded grove just like it appears in ALttP, alluding that the ruins of the ToT decayed completely by the time of ALttP leaving only the Master Sword in its pedestal in the Sacred Grove.
But people often wonder how the forest got from eastern Hyrule in OoT to western Hyrule in ALttP. But if you look at the fog of war surrounding Castle Town on the Hyrule Atlas in OoT, you can see a small line of trees behind the clouds just to the west of Hyrule Castle... there's a forest there.
I've always considered that the Kokiri left their part of the forest when Hylian moved too close. Ordon is a relatively new expansion into what had previously been "uninhabited" woodland, and it might be that the Kokiri considered this a threat and, not being particulary militaristic, moved far deeper into the lost woods to avoid conflict, assuming that the fused shadow would stay hidden and protected by the monkeys.
I love the Twilight Princess theories, there is so much solved in that game and even more that is still a huge mystery! Loved the video!
Twilight Princess has always been my favorite Zelda game, but I have never really fully realized the sheer massive SCALE of Faron woods in the game. Great video, thanks Zeltik!
The Forest Temple is one of my Favorite Temples! 😍
If only the Fairy of Winds got more attention in future games...
For the fate of the Kokiri, I feel they already left the Faron woods, taking the young Deku Tree with them. They went on to establish the Kokiri Forest and the Lost Woods in a new region to the north, northwest. This could explain why in games like A Link to the Past and BotW, the Lost woods are in an entirely different area across the map
1:50 NGL that transition was smoother than the transformation animation.
there's another reason why the Kokiri/Korok's aren't seen in TP. Koroks normally can't be seen by people, either being invisible to them, hidden from sight, or are disguised as something else. TP Link simply might not have the ability to see them, and thus we can't see them either. For all we know, they could have been right under our nose the entire time.
Interesting!!
My theory is that all the large trees are husks of dead deku trees. The tree dies and reincarnates through a sapling again and again. Odds are the deku and Kokiri are still there, but are deep in the giant tree forest. We don’t go there so we never see them.
Ayyy same pfp gang
Could the fairy of winds not be the guardian of the fused shadow piece if her carving was depicted on the walls and other things x
That's what I was thinking
16:56
"It is possible that another forest-dwelling civilization built the temple"
*looks at Kokiri symbol* - OHMYGOSH iS tHaT A ZonaI sWirL?
Yesssss!!!! Can you please do more Twilight princess videos as it was my first ever Zelda game and My God was is an incredible first experience that drew me into the LOZ mythology
It was my first Zelda game too.
I can't get enough Zeltik.
Just started a new TPHD Hero mode playthrough so this is perfect timing.
Twilight Princess truly has such an eerie and melancholic atmosphere. I hadn’t played the game since 2006/07 so seeing everything again after so much time was pretty surreal.
More Twilight Princess plz, Zeltik! 🖤
Would love a video focusing on the Skull Kid himself. Personally think he has some interesting lore and backstory in both Termina and Hyrule, not to mention the mystery of his presence in TP.
twilight princess is my favorite zelda game mainly because of the dungeon design and items and this dungeon is an excellent start.
That was... HANDS DOWN!!! The smoothest transition into a sponsor. Well done my friend!! 🤣
Raid Shadow Legends ad : Plays
*presses 10 skip second repeatedly*
Why don’t you just go to the next premade “chapter” ?
@@FoldedBionis I was in the beginning of the video and didn't want to miss as much.
Another thing to remember is that in OoT, only a person with a fairy could safely enter and leave the forest. Of course, that doesn't explain how Link's mother and the Master Craftsman's Son got through, though it might be that either of them never encountered the Kokiri altogether. That being said, Twilight Princess Link probably never would have been able to enter and meet a Kokiri.
TP was my first zelda game and i think it’ll always be my favorite 💚
majora’s prob second for me
I had an idea about the Koroks: what if the Kokiri didn't become them in a literal, "magic transformation" sense? Rather, what if the difference is simply that the Koroks are all the children of the new Deku Tree? Heck, maybe all the children of different Deku Trees look different. Would explain the hell out of those racoon-plant guys.
I get the feeling that the Kokiri are still around. But perhaps they are no longer visible to the naked eye and exist as just fairy spirits.
Or they faded away to become the woodlands themselves and the monkeys are a kind of homage to them. Since the Gerudo are no longer around to our knowledge and we don't see them in the desert, the Kokiri may also just not be around anymore either due to the passage of centuries.
zeltik 'casually talks about the scam game of the century without promoting it outright'
good move bro
Someone has to say it so here I go… OH MY GOD IS THE KOKIRI CREST A ZONAI SWIRL?!?!?!?!
Im a simple guy. I see new Zeltik video, I watch new Zeltik video.
I think Ordon is to the Southwest of the Lost Woods. I think that Link, unable to live in his childhood home, lived in Ordon and built a new forest temple there, using the Kokiri marks of his childhood to honor the Kokiri and the Great Deku Tree. The Hero of Time given Faroe's blessing had the province flourish.
00:13 "Toilet Princess"?!
My thought is that the forest temple is the husk of the old deku tree (there is even a pond inside at the bottem in both games), Ordon is Kokiri village inhabited by hylians, the Temple of Time's entrance is the OoT's sacred medow (You enter a portal to the interior of the Temple of Time), and the only one "alive" to remember how to find it is Oot/MM's Skull Kid.
Edit: It is possible that some oher disaster rolles through between Oot and TP, causing the giant chasms in the forest which as a preservation measure, had the kokiri become koroks. No longer needing to protect the kokiri or their emerald, the curse of the lost woods dissapates, allowing both adults and bokoblins to enter freely.
The wind designs on the doors are based on the Kokiri's emerald from oot, and same thing for goron mines and lakebed temple, they have Goron's Ruby and Zora's Sapphire on the doors.
I love the editing of these videos. It's like a camera crew personally went to the temple to capture footage
The sponsor bit was hilarious, great way of going with a necessary evil
The kokiri aren't missing. The kokiri are effectively "dead" in the sense that they rely on there being a deku tree to exist. They are "children" of the forest and children need a parent. No deku tree, no kokiri.
They're basically kodama but their existence is tied to a specific tree rather than any ancient tree.
The idea that the whole area is functionally the lost woods is an interesting one. Seems to suggest that without the deku tree around it goes a bit wild. Meaning the deku tree was suppressing the lost woods. Meaning the lost woods is a magical entity or phenomenon unto itself.
Cool idea.
I Get so excited when any theories relating to twilight princess come up
My theory:
I feel like the Kokiri “forever children” are actually just forest spirits created by the Deku tree to help the Deku tree in any way, like raise Link (for Link wasn’t like the kokiri, cause he was a normal Hylian). So with each new Deku tree comes with different helping forest spirits to fit the trees needs. Down the lineage of Link, we see that link is no longer living in the forest but with his own kind (Hylians). So the Deku tree lineage didn’t need to create the Kokiri children because they simply didn’t need to take care of Link. I feel that the Skull kids and the monkeys are just spirits that live in the Deku tree domain but aren’t as connected to the tree as the Kokiri, for they a little bit more free will and can leave the forest (Kokiri could not leave).
Now for Sarah, I feel that the Deku tree was attached because Ganon thought for sure that he was the sage of the forest. But because Sarah was also a Kokiri, the Deku past that responsibility on to her because he knew he would be the first target. And that is why when all the Kokiri vanished and not Sarah was because she was still holding on to the last piece of the Deku tree that kept the forest sage lineage alive.
Now fairies (not healing fairies, like that from the great fairies foutains).The fairies guide the Kokiri but fairies have a bit more free will than the Kokiri (major’s mask). The fairies seemed to only want to be with forest spirits which is why Skull kid had a better connection with the fairies than Link did in Mejor mask. And Link couldn’t get a fairy on his own, which is why the Deku tree ordered Navi to help you outside the forest. So when link got his fairy of course the Kokiri were shocked and happy cause it meant that Link could be a forest spirit after all. But this wasn’t the case for Navi was ordered to help carry out the mission, that’s it.
Last thing, I refer to the Kokiri as helping spirits with no other purpose, but that’s an understatement. I feel the the Deku tree loves them because they are apart of him and gave them a bit of freewill (like how they behave). So in other words the Kokiri are his children and that is why there is such a strong connection between the Kokiri and the Deku. Sarah could have been the most favorite because of how fairly she treated Link when he was growing up, which is why she was closest with the tree in spirit receiving the honor of sage.
Short: Kokiri are just spirts connected to the tree, and are there to help the tree in every way possible, and when the new Deku tree rises, new spirits take form.
A other good vidoe dude keep it up you rock
Maybe its possible that the Kokiri DID still evolve into the Koroks, and are in the forrest/temple, but we just can't see them. It's implied in Breath of the Wild that Koroks cannot be seen by most humans, and only children can see them. Link in that game seems to be a rare exception, and can see them, but maybe that's not always the case. In Wind Waker, Link is a child, so he can see them just fine, but maybe because he's an adult in Twilight Princess, they are around him, but completely invisible to him. This could explain Kokiri imagery, but no sign of them in the game
03:48 to skip the Raid ad
Your thumbnails are always so compelling to click on, you don’t even use clickbait, but I only see interesting Zelda topics that I want to click on
What if the kokiri/koroks were there, but since this Link isn't a child (and I guess not pure enough of heart?), he could see them. Just a little theory.
That subtle clearing of the throat before the ad was *chef's kiss*
Another brilliant video Zeltik! Coincidentally, I've actually been working on a script about the forest temple, potentially being the great Deku tree from OOT. But now, after seeing your video, you've pretty much debunked then entire theory I was going to cover XD There is a small bit of evidence that the Deku tree does appear in TP. The boss room where you fight Diababa, is supposed to be inside the remains of the great Deku tree, as the room looks like the basement from OOT. If you could hit me up at some point, I would like to talk to you more about it!
What if the deku tree became corrupted by the fused shadow after being trusted to protect it, and its evil transformation was to expand and grow the lost woods, expanding its reach to 'lose' more unknowing souls within. Souls that are consumed and lost forever. And since the deku tree was the first to be cursed in OoT, maybe it was the first place to be cursed in Twilight Princess too, possibly years before the zora and gorons?
A fun ponderous theory.
The atmosphere and tone in Twilight Princess will never be topped
Love ya Zeltik!😍😘
That transition into the ad was so bad it was brilliant 😂👌🏼
Love your work bro
Keep it up my GUY
Immediate respect for the way you handled that sponsor placement.
Amazing intro, never been so happy to see a raid shadow legends ad, the setup was perfect
Hey Zeltik! I have a interesting idea: Daruk must know something about Death Mountain. It shivered one day sending boulders down that nearly crushed him and Link. Is there something lurking underneath the fiery, flaming volcano? Ganon? Dragons? Dodongos? Hmmmmm🤔🤔🤔
Guys. I’ve wanted to play twilight princess for so long. Actually owned it when I was 7. Should I wait for a port to actually happen or is there any emulators that I should look into?
Same with the wind Waker
@Xx-raZ0r_pup-xX the port could happen. They've already ported two others
dont bother with the original, i would look into getting the HD version so you can either wait for a port that may or may not happen or get a wii u pre owned with twilight princess HD
You can definitely emulate the gamecube version with Dolphin. The HD version doesn't add much, just an amiibo-locked dungeon and some marginally better graphics, but if you can find a Wii U emulator and ROM, go for it.
Dolphin is pretty much *the* GameCube/Wii emulator, so just use that for any GCN games you plan on playing
I'd like to add to this.
The Fairy of Winds was placed in the forest temple to guard the Fused Shadow. Her abilities are only corrupted after Ook got hold of her, so maybe the reason why she was there was to ward off anyone from getting close. However when the twilight descended upon Hyrule the Fused Shadows began growing in strength. (Who knows, maybe they had been put into slumber by the Light Spirits only to awaken when they came into contact with the magic of twilight). The dark aura that surrounds the Gale Boomerang looks very similar to the dark aura surrounding the Fused Shadows.
Basically what I'm proposing is this: The Light Spirits sealed away the Fused Shadows' power, then gave the artefacts to the three races to protect. The Fairy of Winds is chosen by the Deku Tree (now fully grown) to assist in guarding the dark magic, and so she resides in a forest temple built under the Deku Tree's orders to protect the outside world from the power, (should it ever awaken). Zant appears and twilight descends. The Fused Shadows recognise the denizens of the twilight as the people who created them, and they awaken. The Zora's piece beckons an eel (or maybe a creature similar to Morpha) to come into contact with it, creating Morpheel. The Goron's piece shakes the mountain drawing the Goron leaders to it, only to corrupt Darbus with it's malice. The Kokiri piece (already protected by the Fairy of Winds) seals away the fairy's power, infects the mind of the leader of the monkeys that live there (I have no ideas as to why they are there(you guys can figure that out)) and finds a Deku Baba to posses. By the time Link lifts the twilight on Faron Woods its already too late. The Fused Shadows are awake and causing chaos across Hyrule.
can't believe i didn't watch this on my birthday anyway its always good to see a twilight princess theory keep it up man
zeltik: a swirling pattern
NBC in the distance: OH MY GOSH IS THAT A ZONAI SWIRL?
When a kokiri dies, it turns into a tree. Although I heard that somewhere in a theory. And since this game takes places a few centuries after ocarina of time, the trees (deceased kokiri) would have grown to large sizes.
Ur ad was so smooth that I'm not even offered. In fact, i wont skip it at all. Yeah I'm typing this while listening to it
I love your chilling narration. It fits well with your scary videos.
Hasn't every zelda channel including yourself covered this like several times
I haven't covered this before
you're just confusing all the different forest temples I think
@@smelliott2347 mandela effect :/
@@alegomanYTPs ok :/
That was the best segway into a raid shadow legends ad I've ever seen; kudos to you Zeltik
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I believe that the fused shadow has stopped Deku trees from growing, instead causing them too grow into normal trees, thus causing the Kokiri to disappear
can i just say *massive* kudos for referring to the fairy as "they" and not using stereotypical female pronouns
With starting out the exact same as Vortexxy's theory i thought it was going to end with the same conclusion, so i didn't expect it to change but i was excited to see that there was more to be analyzed
The video starts at 3:47
The forest in Twilight Princess, IMO, is the same as in OoT/beginning of MM, but hundreds/thousands of years later. The forest is still magical and have expend. The difference between Link in OoT/MM and TT is OoT Link lived in the forest for years with the Kokiri and basically knows it while TT Link doesn't know it since he didn't live with the Kokiri.
So, my opinion of what happen to the Kokiri in TT is they probably move further in the forest with almost no connection with the outside world.
I feel like the fused shadows would have had to be hidden before Ocarina of Time. The Ganondorf in TP is the same one as in OoT and by that point, the twili had already established their civilization.
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This man just trolled Raid Shadow Legends while also gettin paid to promote them! He's a Legend... kinda like Zelda... Zelda is a very niche series of adventure games. Theres no way you've heard of it!
Zeltik: "You could call him a shadow legend..."
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First
Ur the actual first
The mystery of the missing kokiri in twilight princess has always fascinated me
My one small theory tied to this on their disappearance, is that they still became kid kororks, planted and grew into the trees you see around the temple. Through whispers they call to the Fairy that becomes Fareor's avatar, the boomerang fairy. Who built, worshipped, and occupied the temple: the monkeys. After all their great ancestor is the chosen one to hold the light even of they aren't aware of the connection.
No not you too you sold out
Imagine wanting to make money in return for the content you make
@@Zeltik I just hope they payed well
@@Zeltik What did it cost
I’m joking btw I enjoy your content
@@Zeltik imagine creating content for the passion and not for the money
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I don't care how much you Raid shadow legends sponsorships, this transition was awesome...
Twilight Princess is the best. Nice video!
Maybe between the events of Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess, projector tree made it the Kokiri's responsibility to spread the forest, just like he does when they're koroks and other games.
That could explain why the forest has grown so much. So much time has past so much that the Kokiri and the Great Deku Tree are long gone, but the forest they expanded still remains
You don't know how much I wanted to close this tab when you said "Shadow Legend" and I realized what was happening.
My theory is that the Great Deku Tree is in the boss room.. but it's dead. After the Kokiri were entrusted with a piece of the fused shadow, the overwhelming dark power eventually could not be contained by the forest deity despite his efforts with magic and the tribe constructing a temple around their home to seal it away. The guardian spirit was ultimately killed. Having no protection any longer the children of the forest had no choice but to leave and vanish deep into the Lost Woods as their home was no longer safe with the fused shadow affecting their forest with it's dark power. I'm sure monsters began to invade their home as well at the same time causing the tribe to become disjointed as they left their home in a panic. And without their guardian to help them.. they lost each other all together as they fled deeper into the woods. As for the Fairy of Winds, perhaps the fairy interacted with the tribe at one point. Providing them assistance with it's wind magic to help the forest and in exchange was given a home and memorialized for it's kindness in providing them aid.
Here's a bit of a theory in line with yours:
While it _was_ a place of worship, the Forest Temple was *_willingly abandoned_* by the Kokiri because of how dangerous the Fused Shadow was.
How I see it happening:
The Kokiri were indeed put in charge of the Fused Shadow piece, and hid it in their temple to keep it safe from outsiders, not knowing how dangerous the thing was.
However, there were those who looked a bit further, and *_felt/saw_* just how dangerous the thing was.
The Mido and Saria of this iteration realized that this thing would corrupt anyone who tried to wield it or even touch it, and decided to abandon the Forest Temple and retreat further into the wood, with even The Great Deku Tree realizing that this would be too dangerous for the the Kokiri.
However, that doesn't mean they would shirk their duty to protect the Fused Shadow Piece.
They allowed the monkeys of the forest to live their, entrusting them with the Gake Boomerang as a means to defend the piece of the Fused Shadow.
They then left to the Kokiri Forest, sure that Faron Woods were safe.
No one could have forseen Ganondorf giving Zant untold power and usurping Midna, then laying siege to Hyrule and the rest if the Light World...
A recent video talked about how there are more souls that reincarnate everytime Gannon makes an appearance. Like Beetle or Impa, the souls of the kokiri were forced to reincarnate in the bodies of the monkeys that inhabited the forest at the time
Zeltik :" You can call him [Link] a... Shadow Legend.... RAID SHADOW LEGENDS..."
Mipha : "Well, dont mind if I do"
Link : "unconfortably hyaaaas"