first time listening to HARDCORE PUNK 🎸 Black Flag, Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Hüsker Dü
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- My first time listening to hardcore punk (or just 'hardcore') featuring Black Flag, Bad Brains, Minor Threat & Hüsker Dü ! I'll see you soon for another video with more heavy metal, hard rock and prog metal reactions.
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00:00 intro
00:56 Bad Brains
04:05 Minor Threat
07:40 Hüsker Dü
12:14 Black Flag
15:49 outro
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apologies that these aren't the MOST hardcore bands out there. it's just an intro. i'll do a pt 2 with some more harder bands next time!!! Merry Christmas everyone :)
Feliz Navidad!
Bad Brains son la mejor.
No apology necessary. It’s tricky because genre lines are always blurry. Even more so when trying to identify the start of a new branch. The artists identified as pioneers in any genre almost never intended to create a new genre. All these bands thought of themselves as punk bands because that’s what existed.
Don't apologise unless you've done something wrong and if you have DON'T tell anyone and you should be sweet as 👍✌️
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Kia Ora hello Cuzzie hay the link above is in my opinion one of the best kiwi punkrock bands Missing Teeth live at Aotearoa New Zealand Punkfest in 2007 it's a very good recording and video the song is called THE PLAUGE
Ian MacKaye of Minor Threat went on to be in the great band called Fugazi. 13 Songs, Repeater, Steady Diet of Nothing, and In On The Kill Taker are Fugazi albums I hope you will consider reacting to.
Repeater?
@@Gekokujo76 Yes, actually called Repeater + 3 Songs, released in 1990
@@innocentbystander1853 I honestly didnt see Repeater on the list. Sorry...Im blind and thought you forgot an important name on the list.
@@Gekokujo76 No worries my friend
Kira reacted to the entirety of 13 songs on Patreon!
As someone who was alive in the 80's, I would recommend for early Hardcore Punk.
Discharge - Protest and Survive (1982)
D.O.A. - Thirteen (1980)
The Germs - Lexicon Devil (1979)
Agnostic Front - United and Strong (1984)
Exploited - I Believe In Anarchy (1981)
Some very different sounds there lol
Also SubHumAns, GBH, Cro-Mags, Agent Orange, et al...
I was there,and that scene birthed me into the real political scene that was hardcore punk(early teens)...greatest time to be alive...greatest all ages shows.
@@frankgrimes7388 Roots.
Agnostic Front ❤
Husker Du started out hardcore and morphed into more melodic sophisticated songwriting by this time. For hardcore you'd want to listen to something much earlier off Everythings Falls Apart or maybe Real World from Metal Circus or from Zen Arcade, though they were starting to move away from hardcore by then.
Zen Arcade is to this day one of the most brutal things I've ever heard. We'd play the cassette on road trips, but if you tried to listen to it more than 2 times all the nerves in the back of your head would violently rebel. To think that it was recorded for the most part in one take is mind blowing as a musician that's familiar with what it took to record back then. Their later melodic stuff is absolutely beautiful. The sound of two people who love each other and became so competitive in their songwriting, it destroyed their friendship.
🤘🧙♂🤘
I feel in love with them backwards through getting into Sugar, oddly enough
@@erco9167two first Sugar albums are great! Esp ‘Beaster’ which is just incredibly fierce! Absolutely Hard Core intensity! Totally opposite of Copper Blue, which is more of a clean alternative pop album but very good at it 😊
@@erco9167 I'm even more backwards, first listened to solo Bob Mould
My favorite Husker Du albums are New Day Rising, Flip Your Wig, Candy Apple Grey, and Warehouse: Songs And Stories. Divide And Conquer may be my favorite song. Great video!
I had the pleasure of seeing Bad Brains, Husker Du , Minor Threat, and Black Flag…the world changed after these bands..
I'm jealous.
Shoutout to your dad for his favorite Husker Du song being a deep cut from Warehouse! Husker Du were all over the place while they were around, a truly distinctive sound.
Bad Brains IS hardcore. I highly highly recommend watching the 1982 CBGBs show on YT. They were the best live band of all time.
D.O.A. War on 45 is a classic from that era...worth a listen.
The attitude the Brains are talking about is PMA positive mental attitude. An idea they picked up from the book "Think and Grow Rich'. It would be hard to overestimate the influence that Bad Brains, Minor Threat and Black Flag had on the bands that came after them.
I love Rise Above especially by Black Flag, but the whole Damaged album is great.
Dead Kennedys and Discharge are 2 other essential hardcore bands.
DIscharge is essential, since it's the beginning and inspirations to a lot of future genres. There would be no Trash Metal, Black Metal or Crust Punk without them.
Omfg yes!
Yes! I listed a few in my comment but how did I forget Discharge!? Also I like MDC, Doom, Crass, Conflict. And Napalm Death has elements of hardcore and grind 💥🏴☠️
I think Damaged is the best Punk album.
DKs are tricky because so much of their better known stuff is straight surf rock or satirically poppy stuff, but yes, Kira, do it
I’m from NY and I’m in my fifties, so Bad Brains were the best. Close seconds would be Agnostic Front, in particular the Victim in Pain album. Also Cro-Mags were great with Age of Quarrel album. Murphys Law, Warzone, Sheer Terror were all good.
I'm 50 and from Buffalo NY ......took my 18yr old son to his 1st hardcore show 2 weeks ago..... it was Agnostic Front, Murphys Law, and Grade 2.......NY Hardcore never gets old and when Vinny Stigma welcomes your son to hardcore its a memory I'll never forget
Right! This dude was definitely there. NYHC
Warzone, Youth of Today and even Shelter can have sick songs :) NYHC!
All great bands. Sick of it All & Killing Time have some good shite too.
@@davidsonner6488 Just saw the same show in VA! I'm 45 grew up in punk and HC!!! vaXhc
"Boiling Point" by SSD is essential Hardcore.
You've got to listen to I against I by Bad Brains. It's one of the best Hardcore songs ever, and you already own it 😂. Great vid.
You should check out Negative Approach, Void, MDC, DRI and the album, Everything Falls Apart by Husker du which is more of a Hardcore album.
If you want more dark hardcore songs I would recommend “Richard Hung Himself” by D.I, “Big Mouth” by Gorilla Biscuits (who usually make positive songs, for instance: “things we say”), and “Live Fast, Die Young” by the Circle Jerks.
Bad brains are the backbone of every band that came after them! Literally the most influential band in modern rock and roll! Even a lot of hip hop acts have cited the brains as influence!
Beastie boys loved bad brains
You are correct
I'd love to see your reaction to some post-hiatus Descendents. Something like Cool To Be You and Hypercaffium Spazzinate has been my go-to for punk for a good while now, and people are *sleeping* on it!
Circle Jerks would be a good addition.
All of the members of Bad Brains became rastafarians after going to a Bob Marley concert. They played Hardcore and reggae songs but didn't mix the two different genres in individual songs. They were absolutely phenomenal live.
Saw them only twice. We weren't spoilt with visits in the UK. Tight, fast and musical, almost jazzy?
True, they never mixed styles, you went to a BB gig
and didn't know if they were gonna Punk or Dub it.
@@jasonsmith666 I saw them supporting UK Subs in Brixton in the early 80s. Felt sorry for the Subs having to follow them on stage. Interesting that you say "jazzy" because Bad Brains did start as a jazz rock fusion band before becoming punk.
If you know the song I against I I don't see how you could say that.
They were Rastafarians before they were the bad brains. They used to be a reggae band but a friend of theirs named Sid McRay turned them into the sex pistols. I've hung out with Sid McRay. Cool dude.
Excellent pick of bands! I was gonna mention Hüsker Dü as I initially didn't see it in your title and then saw you already got it covered haha. They were more hardcore in their early days (Land Speed Record, Zen Arcade) and developed a more alternative rock style later on. I guess the line between punk and hc is a blurred one...another band I would highly recommend checking out is Negative Approach. Merry Christmas!
To me hardcore has always been "just punk". I feel like its more a question of the bands attitude to their music and the industry than necessarily a statement about the music.
Be sure to check out Scandinavian Hardcore, like Rattus, Anti-Cimex, Tarveet Kadet, Riistetyt, Driller Killer, etc ...and British Hardcore like Discharge, Doom, Chaos UK
most of em are crust
@@RibeiroGames12 Nah, it's just a different flavor of hardcore. Crust is usually much more metallic, slower and sludgy, it has this crossover appeal. Of all these bands probably only Driller Killer and Doom to a degree can be considered crustcore. But still even, for example Doom is closer to hardcore sound then pure crust, thus crustcore. But nevermind the tags, it's all an of offshoot of original first-wave hardcore, just with regional differences, specific flavors and scenes.
Punch Drunk is an incredible hardcore song by Husker Du.
Love the shirt and your enthusiasm toward hardcore! Enjoy😊
I'm Brazilian and I found your channel today. It's really good. I'm watching a lot of videos where you react to albums that I love. Congratulations. one more subscriber :)
i may have seen you in a fishing video. great that your going down the punk rabbit hole. so much good stuff...love your channel!!
The greatest collection of 4 Hardcore bands where not ONE of their Hardcore songs are played!
The list is a great intro for hardcore.. awesome reaction 👍👍
I just now discovered your channel, and I liked this video. Have always been a Black Flag fan, from long long ago. Thanks, look forward to your next reaction.
These bands are the beginning of hardcore. This is the first wave that came after the ramones/pistols/clash/damned explosion. After that bands took “punk” either hardcore or pop
Oh man, this brought back memories of when I was in my teens and started getting into punk. Older punks would tell me, "this is hardcore," "this is punk," but for a long time I could not tell the difference! Seems super weird to me now, because the difference is usually quite clear to my ears these days, although some bands do exist right on the line.
If you want to hear how the genre of grunge was created, check out the second half of Black Flag's album My War. Incredibly influential to all of the Seattle bands with punk roots.
correct. everyone in LA hated it but everyone in the PNW loved it.
My War also influenced sludge metal as much as it did grunge. Very cool album
Not even close!!...Grunge and all of that just stole the ideas of what hardcore was...never influenced just escaped.
It warms my heart to see you listening to Hüsker Dü! I used to frequent the record shop Cheapo in St Paul, MN where two of the members first met, makes me more than a little home sick. You should check out Bob Mould after some more Hüsker Dü. Cheers!
ohhh myyy, it's been a while, loved the reactions
Loved this! Such an interesting mix, it really shows the variety of styles within hardcore. Also the result differences geographically, from DC hardcore to Minneapolis hardcore to California! I have to ask… where did you get that amazing Hatful Of Hollow shirt!? The Smiths are my favorite band and I collect their shirts and that one is AWESOME!
Saw all the Hardcore in So Cal back in the day. highly recommend you checking out the Dead Kennedys, Circle Jerks, early Black Flag (Miltown High), Fear, DOA, The Adolescents, JFA, Bad Religion, Minutemen, TSOL, The Stains, (early) The Descendents, Social Distortion, Youth Brigade and definitely The Dickies, who predated the Hardcore movement but went faster and harder before anyone else did. They're humorous so people don't put them into the Hardcore catagory but they ushered it in with The Incredible Shrinking Dickies and Dawn of the Dickies.
The L.A. wit and irony was thick before hardcore.
Dickies shows were so fun! Redd Kross, too.
I especially like the psychoBilly (?) scene: GunClub, Flesheaters, Tex & the Horseheads, and my most favorite ever - X !!!!
Minutemen were another fave. Great memories.
@@scottstine611 of course. I was just excited a few of my favorites from my L.A. days were mentioned !
I agree the Dickies weren’t hardcore. I personally preferred the fun wit of The Dickies, Fear, Circle Jerks. The overall aggression riots/LAPD crap at hardcore shows started getting annoying. Ran for my life too many times . I’m female btw
Remember the LA Street Scene?😳 I liked Black Flag secret word-of-mouth downtown loading dock shows, though.
Fun times.
I’m just here in this comment section cuz I’m curious about the current culture hype around the “hardcore” concept. 🤓😁
Merry Christmas Kira! 🎄🎁❄️🎅 In my opinion. The O.G. hardcore bands were more punk than anything but if you keep exploring all the hardcore bands that came after. You'll find it gets more and more hardcore. Especially with bands like Madball, Terror, Comeback Kid, and Scowl. Especially when they start incorporating breakdowns in the songs. I loved your reaction and I hope you keep exploring hardcore.
Terror and Madball are basically crossover thrash or metalcore. Scowl is dope and comeback kid is just NOFX part 2
These bands suck ass
Hi Kira. I agree with all the suggestions for Discharge - and for a particular reason; I think you'd find the similarity to Motorhead really interesting. M'head bridged metal and punk, and were pioneers of both genres. Check out Discharge, The Blood Runs Red as an example. For classic Discharge I'd suggest State Violence/ State Control, or Protest and Survive is probably their best known one. Enjoy! And merry Xmas! 😃
You & your dad have great taste in music! I saw Bad Brains live and I saw Husker Du live in 1987! I recommended punk tunes to you several years ago and I would highly recommend you do a deep dive on the British band The Libertines! You and your dad and your subs will love them!
First video I’ve watched of yours. Fun!!
A crazy recommendation is, check out Hüsker Dü’s Land Speed Record to truly hear when the Hüskers were hardcore. In their 10 years as a band, they evolved so far from hardcore to the precursors of what became alternative
I'm so drawn to reactions to classic hardcore! But I've searched so many, it seems like the only ones I haven't watched are new ones. So I was stoked to see this. Looking fwd to part 2. I recommend OFF!, Dead Kennedys, Poison Idea, MDC, Negative Approach, SSD, Los Crudos, Articles Of Faith, Saccharine Trust, and more from today's 4 bands even though they played other genres 🤘💥🏴☠️
Saccharine Trust is hardcore?
Negative approach!!!!
That’s a great Husker track. For their first earlier more hardcore stuff that was right between their insanely fast hardcore stuff and their later pop punk and just indescribably cool stuff is the whole EP called Metal Circus. It’s 20 minutes of genius and it covers really hardcore early sound as well as stuff like “Diane” when they revolutionized hardcore and indie rock.
Fair start. Might try some west coast flavor next. Totally different beast. I recommend Adolescents, TSOL, CH3, Circle Jerks, and D.I.
Hell yeah hardcore punk will never die! All these bands are fucking awesome
Love you and song's you've been listening to!! Greetings from Brazil!
Ok, my favorite Hard Core band is from my hometown here in Portland Oregon . Poison Idea. The guitarist said "Hardcore was for the younger kids, the stupider kids. I was a stupider person so I fit right into that"
R.I.P Tom Roberts.
Great band. I remember seeing them, Lockjaw and a thrash band Mayhem a bunch in the 80s. If I remember right, Poison Idea swapped members with Mayhem a few times. I heard they lost a few members besides Tom. Thanks for triggering the memories, I had forgotten about them and probably had not thought about them since the early 90s.
Great picks.Dead Kennedys, D.R.I, GBH or Angry Samoans. Hardcore and Trash are just Punk/Metal crossover. Husker Du's Zen Arcade with The Brids cover 8 miles high.
Bad Brains still so damn good
Don't forget D.O.A.! It's was the very first really 'hardcore' hardcore that I heard as a little kid that actually sounded like music to me :) The Enemy is still a timeless melodic punk classic
SNFU, Sons of Ishmael, The Neos etc. etc
And "The Prisoner", absolutely demented!
Oh I absolutely LOVE that husker du song. Spent a few hours staring at the horizon while listening to it, meditating the lyrics. It's not really hardcore, but such a great tune. If you really want to hear some prime hc, go to their early discography, specially Land Speed Record. That's the reason they were considered the fastest band on earth at one point.
Hey Kira, from the hometown of Hüsker Dü. They were everywhere here in the local punk scene, so yes, they do have more hardcore songs. Your dad has good taste. :) You may run into Bob Mould or the Band Sugar, too, great 90’s alt artists born from Hüsker Dü. For some fun quirky punk, try “Tiny Town” or “Punk Rock Girl” from the Dead Milkmen. For “post-hardcore” punk, try “To Hell with Good Intentions” by Mclusky. Happy Holidays!
You’re from Huskerburg?
Like dropped for your channel / algorithm. Have a great Xmas, Missy. 😊
For hardcore, I would have picked New Day Rising for Hüsker Dü. They did do other alt genres. That one had more of a college rock tone. Still great.
The whole New Day Rising album is amazing
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My fav Husker Du
New Day Rising is in my Top five albums ever no contest it's my youth on 12 inches of vinyl
Your dad has given you a great musical start me thinks 😊
Early Husker Du was more hardcoreish but I wouldn't call them that. Bands like Discharge, Exploited, GBH, Fear, Battalion of Saints, Agnostic Front, New Bomb Turks or the Distillers are more solidly in the hardcore category.
Have you heard land speed record? Definitely hardcore
@@kryptichands968 I take it nobody can read.
Pay 2 Cum is my favorite Bad Brains song, and is likely their most well know song. The song exists in several versions, and the best one is on their Black Dots album. There is a certain quality to it. that sticks out to me. Fast, and intense, yet calmly in control.
Das Psych-oh! Rangers - The Essential Art Of Communication good punk song~ happy christmas K..
Kira, those are great bands to start out with!
Terror, hatebreed, malevolence, vale tudo would be great to see you listen to them. Have a great Christmas
Great pick by Dad! Love the melody on that one.
I seen bad brains in Tacoma Washington at crescent ballroom. HR flew out on the stage jumping 5 feet in the air looking like a jester with his 3 or 4 huge as dreads!!! Great show!!!
In late 80's
I lived this scene for a couple of decades. Saw Black Flag in a roller rink. Bad Brains in a old Tractor Garage and Husker Du at a VFW.
Good picks, saw them all live back in the day in Philly. Check out Minor Threat Live at Love Hall, Philadelphia, PA, 1983-06-10, for a taste of what made the shows so special.
These are some of the founding bands that create this style.
This WAS my teenage years ! - I SAW most of these bands when they came through Detroit. - Yep, MY record collection scares people. 😃
Good Job.
Detroit hardcore is awesome. Necros, Negative Approach, Meatmen ( although technically from Lansing.)
Just to try and clear some things up, Hardcore Punk is generally considered "Pure Punk" for lack of a better term. This is where things can get confusing, the term Hardcore can be used to describe Hardcore Punk or Hardcore, there's a blurry distinction which confused me for a while. Hardcore Punk describes more intense aggressive and energetic no nonsense Punk music, whilst the lone term Hardcore can refer to bands that have broken away from more traditional Hardcore Punk and have incorporated more metal influences in there music and the song structures usually involve breakdowns. For an example of the differences compare Bad Brains or Gallows (a much more recent Hardcore Punk band) with bands like Knocked Loose, yes they're a few decades apart but the differences still hold up.
Hardcore never changed. The sound never died, bands like Scowl, Restraining Order, Rotting Out, Cruel Hand, Turnstile etc are still carrying the torch of non-metallic hc. The scene has changed, but overall Knocked Loose is basically a metalcore band in the hardcore scene.
Hello my dear, I'm from Brazil and I love your reactions!! I love punk rock
Una chica tan joven, analizando musica de mi juventud, ya la amo!
You should check out early Oi! music: i think you’d love the bounce. Cockney Rejects, Cock Sparrer, Angelic Upstarts, Sham 69, Dropkick Murphys for the diluted US version
enjoying the videos :) - some recommend staple/gateway punk bands to add to the gigantic comments list: madball, sick of it all, H2o, Agnostic Front, Terror, Walls of Jericho, Horrorpops, Necromantix, Tiger Army, Leftover Crack, Ramshackle Glory, Against All Authority , AFI, Rancid, Nofx, Bad Religion, DropKick Murphys, Cock Sparrer, Blatz, Crass, Aus Rotten...
You should listen to Cro-mags (hard times), Agnostic front (your mistake), Killing time (backtrack), Sick of it all (my revenge), Negative approach (ready to fight), Leeway (rise and fall) ... for a more "hardcore" feel.
i was at one of the first Bad Brains shows in D.C....Teen Idles opened up for them ... 1979. i got the first 45 rpm Pay to Cum / Sailing On I would say Bad Brains was 90 per cent Hard Core / 10 % reggae when they started ....... also worth checking out is a later song: Re-ignition thanks Alan
Saw Minor Threat in Dallas, TX in 85…fucking badass show!!
100% you should listen to more Hüsker Dü, you'll be amazed!
Great video, Husker Du are such a great band. Little trivia for you.
I know this ain't the same vein at all but Bob Mould (lead singer of Husker Du) is also a huge Daft Punk fan. If you've never listened to them, Daft Punk's Homework is one of the best albums of the 90's. Gotta do Homework next.
fun video! black flag and bad brains are often considered the first hardcore punk bands, so good picks. any hardcore from the 80s is more closely sounding to punk than later evolutions of it. typically old school hardcore is called hardcore punk, and newer hardcore from the 90s and later is simply called hardcore. others consider metalcore to be hardcore as well, due to the fusion that happened in the early 90s. husker du was considered one of the fastest and aggressive hardcore bands in the early days, so its a bit ironic the song you listened to was when they toned it down and switched directions. a lot of people, including myself, consider the band discharge to be the first heavy and intense hardcore punk band, so i would definitely recommend them. for a later sound of hardcore, i'd recommend madball, sick of it all, agnostic front, judge, youth of today, and gorilla biscuits. harder genres that are in the hardcore family are powerviolence, grindcore, and beatdown hardcore. these genres are way more inaccessible if you're ever interested in diving deeper.
oh and maybe you've heard of the misfits, or at least seen their crimson skull logo somewhere, but they are also a hardcore punk band. i'd say they are the most melodic and catchy hardcore bands of the early 80s era.
Hi... also the NYHC (Hardcore bands form New York) are very interesting to explore, like Agnostic Front, H2O and Sick it of all... Happy 2024!
Husker Du (along with the Replacements) are among my favorite 80s bands. Though I never really considered Husker Du hardcore probably their most "hardcore" album is Metal Circus.
Minor Threat were just teenagers when they changed PUNKROCK for ever
And who influenced them? Bad Brains.
@@snuffcore9686 that is 100 correct Bad Brains hardcore minor Threat Straight edge i don't really care they are both insanely awesome I've seen Bad Brains and FUGAZI
@@heathcornbeef I'm old (60) and grew up in D.C. I've been going to shows since 1981. So, yeah, I get it. 😁
@@snuffcore9686 you are not Wrong the DC scene has been a big part of the back beat to my life since 1984 I'm 54 I've been LUCKY enough to have seen BAD BRAINS AND FUGAZI here in Aotearoa New Zealand and the ROLLINS BAND 👏👏👏
@@snuffcore9686 I've had a brain bleed so i repeat myself constantly very forgetful 5 weeks in a coma so I'm sorry for telling you the same information about BB and FUGAZI. This might sound stupid but at the top of my bucket list is meeting Ian Mackaye shaking his hand and thanking him for a lifetime of Musical Joy and sticking to his moral code
Enjoyed this and your enthusiasm. Bad Brains are the best hardcore to me. Look up the documentary on the list bad named Death. That Hüsker Dü tune was from much later when Grant and Bob were indulging their pop sensibilities. Their earliest stud on SST will illustrate their hardcore cred. There is a your documentary that covers the early Minnesota punk scene featuring Hüsker and explaining their fast hardcore early style. I was surprised there were no Dead Kennedys in your sample. You have to check out No Dogs in Space podcast series on the DKs and other punks and proto-punks like Iggy. The Black Flag you listened to was from the Henry Rollins period. They had been through two other singers by that point, Keith Morris and Ron Reyes. Keith went on to form The Circle Jerks. Keep up the good work. You should check out Canada’s DOA who we’re seminal and foundational band who blazed the early circuit North American hardcore bands would tour. Another Canadian fav would be NoMeansNo who were on Alternative Tentacles. Also check out SNFU.
Haven't seen your channel & this caught my eye. 80s HxC song recommends: SS Decontrol-The Kids Will Have Their Say, Minor Threat-Screaming At A Wall, Uniform Choice-My Own Mind, Gorilla Biscuits-Breaking Free, RKL-Think Positive, Dead Kennedys-Kepone Factory. Also you should watch the American Hardcore documentary by Steven Blush about birth of the Hardcore scene.
Cool shirt, can’t wait for my daughters to go through my records.
my review of Minot Threat
Minor Threat. Two 7" EP's recorded in 1981. Later reissued on one LP in 1983.
The first hardcore band on our list. Your humble scribe is a BIG hardcore fan. Hardcore was the progression in punk music-faster playing, louder singing, often screaming, more aggressive, more violent, more in your face. No more pogoing to punk, now there was slam dancing and stage diving. At a Teen Idles 1980 gig at The Mabuhay in San Francisco, the band put all the Huntington Beach kids on the guest list with the promoter, Dirk Diirkson, there saying, "I don't want any horizontal dancing."
Minor Threat blasted off in Washington D.C. in 1980. Vocalist Ian MacKaye and drummer Jeff Nelson had already been in two bands together, The Slinkees and Teen Idles (D.C.'s first hardcore band.) They recruited bassist Brian Baker and guitarist Lyle Pressler. Brian was 15, Lyle 17, Ian and Jeff 18. They later added Steve Hansgen on bass, moved Baker to second guitar and dropped the 12" 45 RPM, “Out Of Step”. It is superb in every way, and totally mandatory listening for anyone with the slightest interest in punk music.
What more can be said about Minor Threat? They have already received just about every accolade. And in my book, they deserve the highest possible praise, on many fronts. First you have a band whose musicianship is beyond reproach and is held in the highest esteem by everyone who loves punk music. They write inspiring songs with some of the most intelligent lyrics ever put to music. Hearing these songs the first time changed many peoples' lives, became a youth rallying cry, and immediately put Minor Threat in the pantheon of hardcore music. One of Ian's most famous songs, "Straight Edge," spawned the whole straight edge movement. " I'm a person just like you/ But I've got better things to do/ Than sit around and fuck my head/ Hang out with the living dead/ Snort white shit up my nose/ Pass out at the shows/ I don't even think about speed/ That is something I just don't need/ I've got straight edge/ I'm a person just like you/ But I've got better things to do/ Than sit around and smoke dope/ Because I know that I can cope/ Laugh at the thought of eating ludes/ Laugh at the thought of sniffing glue/ Always gonna keep in touch/ Never want to use a crutch/ I've got straight edge." There have been all sorts of issues raised about the straight edge lifestyle of no drugs, no booze and even no sex, but MacKaye has repeatedly said he was talking only about himself and certainly was not telling anyone how to run their lives.
Then you have MacKaye, founder of Dischord Records, who sold Minor Threat platters very inexpensively so every kid could own them. To keep prices down I believe he actually lost money on one of them. But imagine the joy a kid with very little money had owning such magnificent music. To me that is priceless. Ian had all ages shows where no alcohol was served, and all tickets were $5.00. His anti-business, anti "rock star" attitude is refreshing today where fame and money seem to be everyone's goal.
Minor Threat and Stiff Little Fingers are the two most inspirational bands I've ever seen. Seeing them could change one's life, and always for the better. A pinnacle in modern American music.
Dig the lyrics to "Filler," the first song we ever heard by them. MacKaye has plenty to get off his chest, is dead serious and froze us in our tracks with his sincerity and intensity. What a beginning for Minor Threat! "What happened to you?/You're not the same/Something in your head made a violent change/ It's in your head 3X /Filler/You call it religion/You're full of shit/Was she really worth it?/She cost you your life/You'll never leave her side/She's gonna be your wife/You call it romance/You're full of shit/Your brain is clay/What's going on?/You picked up a bible and now you're gone/Filler".
The Beastie Boys were a hardcore punk band before they were rappers. Check out their Polly Wog Stew album. Also, check out the Minutemen...
bad brains - "sacred love", husker du - "what do i want?", minor threat - "stepping stone". black flag - "padded cell"...
Hüsker Dü was never really a pure hardcore band, more of a POST-hardcore band like Dinosaur Jr. or Fugazi. They had some upsped tracks though, especially in their earlier days. Try New Day Rising, I Apologize or Something I Learned Today for a start. I'm sure your daddy will approve.
Hüsker Dü to me are one of the most underrated bands today, their influence - not only on the punk and alternative scene, but also on the grunge movement - are huge. Their fabulous songwriting abilities plus the fact that Bob Mould and Grant Hart both had their equal share in singing (both with great voices) brought them the nickname 'the Lennon/McCartney of alternative music" which is not only a huge compliment but also quite fitting.
Last but not least I have to second the emotion that you really need to check out Dead Kennedys as well, they're also very much essential when you're talking about hardcore punk. I recommend Holiday in Cambodia (of course), California Über Alles and Police Truck to start with.
Land Speed Record is absolutely a pure hardcore album.
you should do a Unit on San Francisco Punk as well. It was a very unique period with tons of great forgotten bands like The Sleepers, The Units, Code Of Honor, The Lewd, The Witnesses, Black Athletes, Flipper, Crime, Avengers... I could go on...
My favourite reggae song ever is I AND I SURVIVE Bad Brains
Kira we ❤ you. Great shirt.
Kia Ora hello hay my first tattoo 14 years old 1984 was The Bars black flag. I've seen BAD BRAINS they were my tipping point into punkrock almost 40 years and now 54 still have a Mowhark red at the moment
Hüsker Dü!! need more!
One day at the gym I felt like listening to Minor Thread and found myself jaming hard "what albums is this?" turns out is was their whole discography. It's about the same lenght as some single albums. Definetly worth it.
Going to see Black Flag on Jan 6 in Santa Cruz, Ca. I'm 55 and can be found in the pit.
Your dad seems like someone I would like to have over for dinner and talk music lol
Regarding the heavier Hard-core artists, check out Fugazi, NOFX, GG Allin, Suicidal Tendencies and Agnostic Front first....
Then onto the heavier stuff with Biohazard, Sick Of It All, Hatebreed and through to the start of Metalcore...
(This then diversifies into genres such as Mathcore with the likes of Botch, Dillinger Escape Plan, Coalesce, Converge etc.)
MDC, 7-Seconds, idk but great bands back in the day!
If you get the time, you should check out Nardcore which is hardcore which is faster than hardcore imo, check out JFA, Stalag 13 and Dr. Know just to name a few, but in your part 2 of this series, you have got to include Circle Jerks or The Adolescence.
I saw the Ramones in the late 90's. You need to check out the Detroit All black punk band "Death" 1976 (keep on knocking). Your chair dancing is 🔥. Thanks for being you
Bad Brains, Black Flag.. MT.. The trifecta of Hardcore.. )^_-)/ Greetings from New Jersey!
You definitely need to check out dead Kennedys, especially their debut album fresh fruit for rotting vegetables. One of the pillars of hardcore punk in my opinion
@@frankgrimes7388 You clearly haven't listened to their 2nd album then.
Best bad brains gig I saw was 80s, started with a reggae set, then switched to beast mode half way through, one of my fave gigs ever.
Saw them a few times after that, they changed their sound a lot, they even went a bit metal, always great, but that first time was the best
Turn the volume up; with Hardcore it deserves nothing less. :-)
Good video, your enthusiasm makes it very watchable 🙂. You missed out on Circle Jerks, one of the all time greats. Check out their first two albums, "Group Sex" and "Wild on the Streets", stone cold classics.
Check out the Hardcore from across the pond at the same time all of that great stuff was happening in the U.S.. The UK 82 scene was the British answer and lots of great bands emerged from it. Do a video on Discharge, The Exploited, G.B.H and Disorder among others. Don't forget to give the first volume of the "Punk and Disorderly" series a spin, one of the essentials.