Mey Michael, Don't forget to add that light to your adaptive lighting list. Also, set up a 2X press for the scene 1 button to raise the color temperature and brightness to 100% (create a scene to reference with the 2X button press). That way, if it's late at night and you need full lighting, just double tap the scene two button. Well done on the tutorial! 👍
I used an Inovelli Blue Canopy Module for two of my fans that only had one switch to power the pull-chain fan/light combo, in situations that I wasn't able to rewire the connections. In two other rooms I used Invovelli Blue Light Switch Wired to the wire connected to the light of the pull-chain fan/light, and then a Blue Fan Switch connected to the fan wire connection. Works perfect in both situations in which I had dumb AC-powered fans.
YES, these canopy modules are the best. My only complaint is someone needs to manufacture a better zwave or zigbee remote to replace the stock fan remote fob. So far the best I've found is a 4-button MOES zigbee remote, but I have to use a label maker to identify the buttons. It works perfectly but the remote could look a little nicer.
@@wogfun Zooz makes a great scene control remote that can seamlessly be put next to your existing light switch. looks similar to the Zen32 but no wiring required.
@Wysp_Sedai same, the blue ultimate combo is the blue light switch with the blue canopy module is a great combination since you can physically control the light and speeds pretty seamlessly with zigbee direct association. I've done that a couple of times for older homes that just had one switch. pricey combo, but honestly for locations that don't have two physical load wires for both the fan and light switch, it's as good as it will get
I have a fan/light that operates on a single switch does this switch keep the fan in a “always on” setting so that the main button only turns on the light and not the switch itself ? I hope that makes sense lol
If you have a single switch, does your fan have a pull chain or a remote control to operate the fan and light independently? My fans also have a single switch, and used a remote to control the light and fan separately.
@@michaelsleen this is how mine is also if this will work I’ll upgrade to this immediately I hate having to turn on the switch to then turn off the fan light then turn on the fan
@LouMonestime with the Zen32, you can disable the physical relay and leave it in a constant powered state so that if people hit the large button that normally controls the power, it will not turn it off, and you can just map the button press to simulate the on/off for the light via toggle command in your smart hub.
Hey Michael, came across your video a little late in my automation journey. First of all, great video! I wish I had seen it earlier Anyway, now i want to try and make use of what I got already. All my fans are similar to yours (Hampton Bay) with 1 switch controlling them and they each have remotes which control the fan, speed, light and dimming/warmth. I just got delivered the Zooz Zen71 switches which i planned to use on the 4 fans in my house. Based on your video, I am now going to order the bond bridge as well. Do you think I can control my fans with the zen71? My plan was to use it in "smart bulb mode" and then I do see 3 scenes in Home Assistant on these switches. So i will try to use the double tap gestures to control some of the fan's aspects.... Let me know what you think...
Thanks! I also have the ZEN71. It supports up to 3A fan motors, same as the ZEN32, so it should work for you. The ZEN32 just offers more functionality for control with additional buttons plus support for single, double, triple, quadruple, and quintuplet presses, along with long holds. You can configure single vs. double taps on the ZEN71.
Thoughts on Lutron fan/light switches vs bond + z wave? I’m thinking of ditching my bond because of falling out of sync if using remote. Lutron comes available with their remotes as well. Looking forward to your feedback!
My understanding is the Lutron solution works for fans/lights operated by a pull chain, but not those operated by a remote like mine. Otherwise I’m a big fan of Lutron Caseta products. Thanks for watching!
The video did show how to make a current dumb fan smart, and with a switch that uses Z-Wave. If you'd prefer to use a relay, you could look at something like this: www.getzooz.com/zooz-zen52-double-relay/.
Does the Bond ever fall out of sync? That was my main hesitation with adopting it, since it relies on RF it just takes one failed command to push you out of sync with your Home Automation platform of choice. Also your explanation of "local and zwave control disabled" is a little different than my understanding. I believe that is in reference to the LOAD leg of your ZEN32 switch. Disabling it like you did will leave the LOAD either ON or OFF and never change it. I would have connected the fan to LINE power in the switch box, not the LOAD leg on the ZEN32. That was it can never be inadvertently switched off if the ZEN32 somehow gets switched off (even though it shouldn't with the local/zwave disabled).
99% of the time it remains in sync. If something falls out of sync, it's more likely to be the built-in light (which we rarely use) and not the fan. Thanks for sharing those details.
So I have a similar set up and unfortunately for me the bond does get out of sync from time to time. I have one bond bridge controlling the ceiling fans in my kids rooms. It seems to communicate just fine however maybe once or twice a week the light on the fan gets out of sync. I have an automation that turns off the lights in their room at 8:30 AM because of course they leave them on when they leave for school. My older son his seems to be more reliable, but the younger one for some reason The light becomes out of sync and doesn’t end up turning itself off when it’s supposed to. It’s not the end of the world. It is a little annoying.
In Australia we have a lack of smart switches. I have 5 fans that are RF controlled in the 430mhz range that I would like to connect to Apple Home. They re all remote controlled DC fans (Whitehaven by Lucci) with lights, there is a single wall switch that gives them power and I don't really want to have a fancy switch to control the fan i.e. I'm okay using the remote. What I would like is to add them to HomeKit so I can operate them from my phone. Would this be achieved by just using a Bond Bridge?
@@michaelsleen I think I am slowly learning more about this topic, thank you. Home Assistant is I assume similar to a Raspberry Pi running Homebridge software which from what I understand is another means of connecting the bond bridge to my HomeKit.
Home Assistant is a powerful home automation platform. You can run it on a Raspberry Pi, or a mini PC (among other hardware). Once Home Assistant is up and running, you can add integrations (both officially supported ones and others made by an amazing developer community). Two such integrations are HomeKit Bridge and HomeKit Device. The former lets you bring any device from Home Assistant into Apple HomeKit. The latter lets you add Apple HomeKit devices to Home Assistant. In the context of this video, there is a Bond integration that makes all devices on your Bond Bridge appear in Home Assistant.
👉 Let me know how you would use a ceiling fan in home automations, and what your experience has been.
Mey Michael, Don't forget to add that light to your adaptive lighting list. Also, set up a 2X press for the scene 1 button to raise the color temperature and brightness to 100% (create a scene to reference with the 2X button press). That way, if it's late at night and you need full lighting, just double tap the scene two button. Well done on the tutorial! 👍
Thanks for the tip! Since making the video, I've added customer button presses for increasing and decreasing the fan speed as well.
I used an Inovelli Blue Canopy Module for two of my fans that only had one switch to power the pull-chain fan/light combo, in situations that I wasn't able to rewire the connections. In two other rooms I used Invovelli Blue Light Switch Wired to the wire connected to the light of the pull-chain fan/light, and then a Blue Fan Switch connected to the fan wire connection. Works perfect in both situations in which I had dumb AC-powered fans.
The Inovelli Blue switch is really nice - so many features.
YES, these canopy modules are the best. My only complaint is someone needs to manufacture a better zwave or zigbee remote to replace the stock fan remote fob. So far the best I've found is a 4-button MOES zigbee remote, but I have to use a label maker to identify the buttons. It works perfectly but the remote could look a little nicer.
@@wogfun Zooz makes a great scene control remote that can seamlessly be put next to your existing light switch. looks similar to the Zen32 but no wiring required.
@Wysp_Sedai same, the blue ultimate combo is the blue light switch with the blue canopy module is a great combination since you can physically control the light and speeds pretty seamlessly with zigbee direct association. I've done that a couple of times for older homes that just had one switch. pricey combo, but honestly for locations that don't have two physical load wires for both the fan and light switch, it's as good as it will get
I have a fan/light that operates on a single switch does this switch keep the fan in a “always on” setting so that the main button only turns on the light and not the switch itself ? I hope that makes sense lol
If you have a single switch, does your fan have a pull chain or a remote control to operate the fan and light independently? My fans also have a single switch, and used a remote to control the light and fan separately.
@@michaelsleen this is how mine is also if this will work I’ll upgrade to this immediately I hate having to turn on the switch to then turn off the fan light then turn on the fan
@LouMonestime with the Zen32, you can disable the physical relay and leave it in a constant powered state so that if people hit the large button that normally controls the power, it will not turn it off, and you can just map the button press to simulate the on/off for the light via toggle command in your smart hub.
Yes, this is what I’m doing.
Hey Michael, came across your video a little late in my automation journey. First of all, great video! I wish I had seen it earlier
Anyway, now i want to try and make use of what I got already.
All my fans are similar to yours (Hampton Bay) with 1 switch controlling them and they each have remotes which control the fan, speed, light and dimming/warmth.
I just got delivered the Zooz Zen71 switches which i planned to use on the 4 fans in my house.
Based on your video, I am now going to order the bond bridge as well.
Do you think I can control my fans with the zen71? My plan was to use it in "smart bulb mode" and then I do see 3 scenes in Home Assistant on these switches. So i will try to use the double tap gestures to control some of the fan's aspects.... Let me know what you think...
Thanks! I also have the ZEN71. It supports up to 3A fan motors, same as the ZEN32, so it should work for you. The ZEN32 just offers more functionality for control with additional buttons plus support for single, double, triple, quadruple, and quintuplet presses, along with long holds. You can configure single vs. double taps on the ZEN71.
Thoughts on Lutron fan/light switches vs bond + z wave? I’m thinking of ditching my bond because of falling out of sync if using remote. Lutron comes available with their remotes as well. Looking forward to your feedback!
My understanding is the Lutron solution works for fans/lights operated by a pull chain, but not those operated by a remote like mine. Otherwise I’m a big fan of Lutron Caseta products. Thanks for watching!
Would love to see how to make a current dumb fan smart. Ideally with some sort of relay using zwave or ESPhome
The video did show how to make a current dumb fan smart, and with a switch that uses Z-Wave. If you'd prefer to use a relay, you could look at something like this: www.getzooz.com/zooz-zen52-double-relay/.
Does the Bond ever fall out of sync? That was my main hesitation with adopting it, since it relies on RF it just takes one failed command to push you out of sync with your Home Automation platform of choice.
Also your explanation of "local and zwave control disabled" is a little different than my understanding. I believe that is in reference to the LOAD leg of your ZEN32 switch. Disabling it like you did will leave the LOAD either ON or OFF and never change it. I would have connected the fan to LINE power in the switch box, not the LOAD leg on the ZEN32. That was it can never be inadvertently switched off if the ZEN32 somehow gets switched off (even though it shouldn't with the local/zwave disabled).
99% of the time it remains in sync. If something falls out of sync, it's more likely to be the built-in light (which we rarely use) and not the fan. Thanks for sharing those details.
So I have a similar set up and unfortunately for me the bond does get out of sync from time to time. I have one bond bridge controlling the ceiling fans in my kids rooms. It seems to communicate just fine however maybe once or twice a week the light on the fan gets out of sync. I have an automation that turns off the lights in their room at 8:30 AM because of course they leave them on when they leave for school. My older son his seems to be more reliable, but the younger one for some reason The light becomes out of sync and doesn’t end up turning itself off when it’s supposed to. It’s not the end of the world. It is a little annoying.
In Australia we have a lack of smart switches.
I have 5 fans that are RF controlled in the 430mhz range that I would like to connect to Apple Home. They re all remote controlled DC fans (Whitehaven by Lucci) with lights, there is a single wall switch that gives them power and I don't really want to have a fancy switch to control the fan i.e. I'm okay using the remote.
What I would like is to add them to HomeKit so I can operate them from my phone. Would this be achieved by just using a Bond Bridge?
You can add the Bond Bridge to Home Assistant and then add to Apple HomeKit via the HomeKit Bridge integration for Home Assistant.
@@michaelsleen I think I am slowly learning more about this topic, thank you. Home Assistant is I assume similar to a Raspberry Pi running Homebridge software which from what I understand is another means of connecting the bond bridge to my HomeKit.
Home Assistant is a powerful home automation platform. You can run it on a Raspberry Pi, or a mini PC (among other hardware). Once Home Assistant is up and running, you can add integrations (both officially supported ones and others made by an amazing developer community). Two such integrations are HomeKit Bridge and HomeKit Device. The former lets you bring any device from Home Assistant into Apple HomeKit. The latter lets you add Apple HomeKit devices to Home Assistant. In the context of this video, there is a Bond integration that makes all devices on your Bond Bridge appear in Home Assistant.
@@michaelsleenthank you very much for your advise, I have a little shopping to do to acquire the missing pieces.
@@wopalx1 sure thing! You can find all the tech I use here if it helps: www.michaelsleen.com/tech/