your channel and these videos will be the strongest reason i end up buying a zv-e10. What a great coverage you have done on this tiny nifty powerful camera. Thank you mark, for doing such in depth review over one single product, and not just doing it for the sake, but also using it as your main camera in so many situations.
Guess what, after watching hours and hours of your amazing, often hilarious, and absolutely useful videos, i have bought a ZV-E10 with Sigma 18-50mm 2.8. Cant wait to get back to using a proper camera after years. Thanks Mark for your channel and such interesting analysis :)
Nice to see you documenting your changes in opinions as they come! This channel has been invaluable in developing my understanding of my ZV-e10. My novice skill level and the fact most of my film work is in environments with uncontrolled lighting means I probably won’t use this for a while but good to know!
after going through tons of videos on UA-cam, I found your channel and mate I must say its absolutely remarkable. I bough 3 Sony zv-e10 and sigma lens suggested by you last week and I am so impressed with the quality of the camera. It was all possible because of you. Thank you for putting in so much efforts.
You can also use higher saturation in the camera or a different color mode like s-cine tone or ITU-709 Matrix color mode with high saturation and the Slog3 gamma, and this will actually help keep the colors together bettter when shooting 8-bit. I used to do this all the time with my a73, and it worked so well I barely noticed when switching to 10-bit as long as I had my white balance nailed down.
Yet another win for the little zv-e10. I love that little camera. I e said it many times but for the money the zv-e10 is unbeatable. I have a FX30 and A7IV but find myself using my zv-e10 for quick easy shooting.
Would you recommend the zv e10 as a secondary camera for video at weddings? I need a camera that can record for 45 minutes without heat problems. Thanks!
@@lewcehjitl3282 FX30 is absolute unit. It can work in direct sunlight on a 100 degree day at 60fp 4k and never miss a beat but for photos it’s not great. The A7iv is great because it downs phot and video amazing. If I had to pick one and only one for hybrid use A7iv all day.
@@dandelionestudios you may have battery life issues at 45 minutes. The zve10 still uses the small battery. That’s what makes it able to fit in you coat pocket. You may want a FX30 or A7C
Great video. I've been using ZVE10 for 2 years now and I've had plenty of successful experiments with colorgrading all the color profiles(mostly random experiments). Some footage was out of this world, some waste of time. So don't you dare to buy anything more expensive if you didn't squeeze all the juices from ZVE10 people! Amazing camera.
i use the zv-e10 with the sigma 16mm f1.4 lens as a webcam most times. 720p quality over USB-C is good, but 4k24 over HDMI with elgato usb 4k stick is better. i use usb-c for notebooks and elgato for desktop. The picture quality is so good! Its outstanding! and you have full control over everything! no faulty windows driver, messing around with settings, or dont offer access to it!
Hey Mark! Thank you for this video! What a crazy coincidence as I’ve been exploring S-Log profiles on my little Dougie last couple of days! I was extremely confused about eye-detection problems with S-Log profiles while overexposed, good to know this is a common issue. First of all, I should say, your channel is on the “Special Thanks” section of LeemingLUT website! Congrats on that! And I don’t think you can say “he doesn’t know me” from now on 😂 And also, in regard to auto focus issues again, my best workaround so far is to disable eye detection whatsoever (you can easily do that just by enabling product showcase mod), then set autofocus area to “Zone” and move it where your pretty mug is going to be in frame. Then I step down by 2 notches parameters regarding to auto-focus responsiveness, so it doesn’t distract immediately to waving hands etc. And there you go, this way I get pretty consistent picture in terms of focus and almost no backlights pulsing. Cheers!
I've been watching your channel for so long, and watched a lot of videos about "not using S-log 3" on the ZV-E10, but I start shooting two months ago in S-Log3 to start practicing color grading, and I thing it's really good, so good to see that your start using it too ahaha Keep up the great work dude! ✌
I love my small rig lights and soft boxes- pro level videography at a really affordable price. I honestly think the lighting gear set up for a shoot gets way more attention to give you that professional look to people watching you work, than the camera setup when shooting on location! Lol.
Thanks for this video. I was scared to use SLOG3 with my ZV-E10 but I have now started - I'm loving the results! Somehow the Leeming LUT looks better when using SLOG3 than with HLG3. It seems like you get color artifacts if you don't lock your exposure. I'm only using EV +1.0 in SLOG3 and use Leeming Athena. In Premiere, I increase my exposure by 2.5 and that seems to do the trick. Then just add contrast to taste. The focusing issues seem to occur when your camera is under-exposed. Using EV +1.0 or above is fixing the focusing issues. So far I'm leaving my white balance on auto and it's working fine. Need to experiment more and see.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Quick update - I've been playing with slog3 a lot today. Turning on Gamma Assist in setup seems to help the camera focus better. Keeping White Balance on Auto doesn't affect the image
Haha I’m so glad you were wrong bc I have had a ZVE10 since day one and I’ve been hoping that the slog 3 was not as shit as the internet made it out to be. The ZVE10 is so much more capable than it should be at its price it’s true value that keeps it right around the #1 selling camera on Amazon even with many more newer better feature Rich cameras but nothing beats the value of that DOUGIE!
Great Mark!! Thanks. I was really looking forward to a video like this one. It def isn't easy for beginners to shoot log and get really good shots. You're the best!
Mark, first of all, thanks for showing and teaching us. Just bought my ZV-E10 and I am loving it! I am now at the point where I need to sort out the picture profiles. For a studio shot, I don't mind calibrating everything but what if I plan to wake up, hit record and start vlogging in various environments / circumstances. In your opinion, what PP (process) should I use to achieve the footage you are showing us here since I am also considering buying the Leeming lut. Many thanks for all!
For better lighting, do what I do and light a candle turn off the lights start recording and make sure you do not blow out the flame on the candle. Test for low light and call your new lighting system Flickering Light. Cheers!
REVOLUTIONARY!!! Thanks Mark as always!!! Can you try S-Log2 with the ITU-709 matrix color profile? I think DSLR video shooter made a video about it and said that was the setting that gives maximum dynamic range while not breaking up the colors. Can you do a S-Log3 vs HLG3 comparison? Just want to see if there's any visible dynamic range difference?
So what is a better vlog camera ? The zve10 with a wide lens, or a Nikon z30 with kit lens? The zve10 with an additional lens is then almost the same as the zve1
@@spirittravels. Imho the ZV-E10 is for sure the better vlog camera (than the Nikon Z30). However, if you _do_ want to get into the Nikon system, the Z30 may be a good starting point, but the ZV-E10 is a much better camera. A ZV-E10 with an additional lens (for example a Sigma 16mm or 30mm or Viltrox 23mm) will be approximately around $1000-1150, if you get the ZV-E10 stock price ($698). If you get it used, however, you can really cut down prices, and the whole setup could be less than $1000, which is less than half the price of the ZV-E1 currently! Of course, it's up to you to decide, but the ZV-E10 is never a bad starting point imo.
@@spirittravels. Here's actually a great review Mark himself did a while back! Totally forgot about it until I saw it in the suggestions: ua-cam.com/video/BaDOrqeIpfQ/v-deo.htmlsi=IHmJ_yDUnYD8lMDd
If you want to reduce banding (which happens alot with shooting slog 2&3 on 8 bit cameras). Add at least +20 saturation to the slog 2 or 3 picture profile. And in post when you use the transform luts (like leeming or phantom or Sony s709 lut) reduce the overall saturation by the percentage you increase it in camera and banding is gone or severally reduced. I prefer phantom luts. They give a very natural cinematic look equivalent to arri log c.
Hello, I think it would be interesting for you to make videos about even the smallest things about cameras, because there are things I don't really know. Many times when using a camera, I can't use all of its features, but thanks to you, I now know more about the features and uses of the camera. Thank you, and every time your video appears, I always watch :) Even though I don't have those high-end devices, the entertainment spirit is very good. :D Rarely does anyone on UA-cam have a funny and cheerful face like yours.
Great content as usual and really pleased that Little Dougie still finds his way into your camera bag. I have many Sony Cameras from A7iii up to the FX3 and really pleased with the results. But with these higher end cameras I expect them to deliver great results because of the cost. But always surprised at how good the videos from the ZV-E10 are and top top value to buy. Going to buy the leeming luts now on the back of this video. Keep plugging Little Dougie - a little beast that snaps at the heels of bigger dogs!!! Be great though if Meike or the like built a battery grip for the ZV-E10 as the battery life as mentioned is rubbish. I know there is a third party one out there but the design and build quality looks questionable.
Thank you soo much for this video, I've got a Zv-E10 a few weeks ago and I'm still practicing, I've read that when you shoot in Log-3 you have to use the ETTR technique ( from +1.7 to +2 MM), but when I'm trying to increase the Metered Manual, I've got this message "Not available in the current ISO setting. Valid when set to "ISO Auto". Could you give me some advise, please. Thank you in any case
I'm confused with all these profiles. I guess it depends on personal preference but finally, which one is the best? Can you show us the S-Log3 settings? Is there anything that we have to change to the default?
Wow what a great video, i cant lettery see a difference thata so important between those cameras.. i have the zv e10 also.. but banding with slog 3 is realy soft image
On 8-bit Sonys, turning off internal recording and recording to ProRes on an Atomos Ninja V adds a lot more latitude for grading SLOG2/3, it also 'solves' the quirk of losing face AF and the 30 minute record limit using an external monitor (on an A7III, etc.)
I have ended up with pp off. Did some hlg and can easily see how much better it is than ppoff. But then i grab my cam for a few photos, and since I'm usually in a hurry, or just being quite whimsical, i shoot a few rounds before realising that im in hlg mode on the photos too. Of course nothing you can't save by using the raw files. Nut more often than not I just want to use the beautiful jpegs straight from the camera. Wish i could have different settings for stills and video.
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In your opinion, which is the best for recording in the studio for UA-cam? What configuration you use in PP? And you use exposure in +1.7? Im from brazil, thanks for sharing knowledge
Im in the mindset that they wouldn’t add it as a feature if it wasn’t useable? ive found over exposing 1.3-1.7 is the best way to get good results with this setting. Really enjoying the ZV-E10.
try using Slog3 but set in camera color to IUT709 instead of sgamut and do the color space transformation in Davinci resolve; just transform the gamma from slog3 to rec709. it looks imho better than slog3 to 709 leeming lut. problem with 8bit slog is not in gamma but in colorspace; using 709 eliminates color noise in 8bit and gives the superior image.
Thanks man. Need to save this video for a more in depth review. Will you be doing an in-depth workflow between zv-e10 and ninja v, including exposure? Your landman (landman?) Undone made a couple of them with the legalization toggle and set up but I think you can beat him in his terrain! And it will help us mortals to understand better!
Can you make a video on how to use the leeming luts on videos taken in environments where the white balance and exposure is always changing? For example: I have the zve-10 and I like to shoot car cinematics which includes lots of run and gun shooting. That causes the light in the area as well as the white balance to constantly change. How could I set my camera up to allow me to still use the leeming luts while not being able to adjust white balance and exposure on the fly.
Thanks for the content as always, Mark! I thought I wasn't missing out on Slog3 but now it might be back in the toolbox 😅. For someone who doesn't need to color match between different cameras as you need, which would be higher in your rank: Cine2, HLG3 or Slog3? The ZVE10 is my only camera and I'm going with Cine2 with the Leeming Lut Pro currently.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Same here, i don't see myself using a 10-bit camera in the near future (currently only zv-e10) and looking for a good setup for solo run and gun, natural light only. I shoot manual mode for full control and want to have some space for color grading in the footage, but I can't expect perfect light situations and usually have short time schedule. Every guide/tutorial/suggestion out there finishes with "do some more digging online", well, I've dug about everything there is but still not sure which profile to use... What would you suggest for my setup and needs? Interiors and exteriors, landscapes and architecture. No action, at times talking head interviews. Thanks for a great channel!
Mark, I did get the Sony ZV-E10 as you suggested for indoor talking head videos for UA-cam. (I still don't have the Sigma 16mm f1.4) All the other things you talk about here seem overwhelming to say the least. I don't want to become a cinematographer or video expert but do want a decent looking, kind of pro/cool looking video for UA-cam and talk about my topics. *What would be the simplest way of doing this, with less amount of extra gadgets, least amount of tweaking, and the least amount of settings?* Do you have a video or video series for those people like me? Thank you for all you share and teach.
Mark, as the ZV e10 world’s top expert 😊, I have a question only you may know: if I output 1080p60 via HDMI to an Atem Mini, without recording internally does the file format for rec settings (4K or 1080p) would impact the HDMI output quality? Like, if the camera set to record in 4K would it output a better 1080p via HDMI? Thanks a lot for you input and keep the great work on this marvelous piece of gear!
it’s possible, because Gerald Undone showed setting the A1 camera to 8k but recording to a 4K recorder made better footage. but I’ve never tried that. Maybe give it a test a and do a side-by-side
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisisWill do and let you know. I don’t want to loose the eye tracking on 4k30 and I don’t like 4k24 for streaming, but I’ll give it a try. Thanks for the reply, next pint of apple juice is on me 😊
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis oh well, I won't be able to use it then. Btw your videos about the zve10 convinced me to get the camera for video work, even though I'm a Nikon photog since forever. The Nikon Z system just doesn't have such a cheap and versatile body and such a great lens selection. I bought the 11mm f1.8 as well. Looks like a no-brainer.
Been thinking for a while to grab this, however I’m also considering FX30 or even A7C II. I just started doing some video content and I want something that I can see for both videos/photography. What would you pick?
Thank you for reminding me about those excellent LUTs. Quick question: Do you notice any unusual color artifacts, especially on the skin? UA-cam's conversion should eliminate most of them, so it's hard to tell. However, I've been able to fix these issues by increasing the saturation by +20 in Picture Profile and then reducing it in post-processing. It's a good tip for anyone having the same issue.
When I got my E10 I started learning about profiles, hlg3 and SLog, color grading and so on; then one day I had the idea to use some short videos with different PP, luts and corrections to ask my friends and coworkers with of the samples they liked the most. I was very surprised when, after so many hours learning and practicing, almost all of them told me their favourite was PP off. So now I like to know about the technical stuff in videos like this, but in the end I just do what the people around me say they want: if I use my Sigma 18-50 I use PP off without any color correction (just 10 seconds adding a tiny bit of contrast in post and that's it); and if I use a manual or vintage lens I use PP3 straight from the camera (it has some violet tint and sometimes I correct it slightly). I know it's not technically the best or most accurate, but it's my audience who makes the rules for me.
Hello, I'm thinking of buying this as a backup camera for Canon R6. What would you recommend as an affordable lens? Unfortunately, prices in Turkey are very expensive.
great video again sir, aside the great videos where i learn new and beneficial things every time, sometimes i pop in to watch your video because of that beat playing in the background, it's so groovy. is it custom made for you/your channel or you got it off a song or instrumental?
Hey Mark .. love your work You may have heard of the DJI osmo pocket 3 I think it's coming for our beloved duggy and the likes Would love to see your take on it It has the potential to become the next zv-e10 for your chanel
Hi. I'm about to buy a ZV-E10 or a6400 for you tube. What is the best nowadays. zvE10 has more usefull plug ins, but the a6400 has еру Viewfinder and flashlight (could be usefull if i decide to take a photo). can't decide. Which one is better in 2k23/2k24 ??
The zv-e10 is a little better for video because it has the flip out screen and gyro data and e-stabilization and an updated autofocus. The evf is definitely nice for photos, but I would still recommend the zv-e10
hi and help! I‘ve just picked one of these cameras up but too many items are greyed out in the menu..And it is only offering me 25 p 100 m and 25p 60m...I have tried the factory reset bit it made no diffeence. I am sure I have missed a trick here but cant work it out. Am going to post my sos to some other posts..
sir samyang v-af 24mm T1.9 vs Samyang 24mm 1.8 Compaing video please ( becouse this 24mm length sony A7iv 4k 50p/60p corp mode 36mm . ) 24mm& 35mm. this is my fevotait leanth
Nice video as always. So which picture profile do you recommend for outdoor shooting such as vlogs or cinematics so that we can get the maximum dynamic range possible? ( my self and the sky😂)
If you are shooting in the bright sun, you’ll have to choose between exposing for the face or the sky on even a full frame camera. Production companies will use giant sheets of diffusion for outdoor shots in the bright sunlight
Beautiful channel! Im a newbie and Im learning a ton from you. I want to start my youtube channel and have been planning to purchase ZVE10. Is it still worth purchasing now? Or should I wait a little for an update since it’s been out for 2 years? Or should I be looking at other cameras?
Your videos have helped me quite a bit. I started a welding UA-cam channel for fun, but I already want to step things up and do other content. I've cleared out a small room in our house that was mainly being used for storage to use as my mini studio. I just got a ZV-E10 along with a Sigma 16mm lens. I went from a GoPro 7 to a GoPro 12, and from using the GoPro mic to a Comica wireless one. I then started debating using my older A6000, but the lack of 4k, and no mic input make it less than ideal for video. I'm about to paint, once that's done I can start setting things up! Any color recommendations?
a grey is great. not too light or dark. medium (or middle grey like the grey card) Great for skin tones and you can change the colour by shining any light on it. also great for knowing your white blade is proper.
It would be interesting to see a video of LeemingLut vs just using the Sony one or one of the many free ones available online, e.g. FreshLuts. It just feels like a bit of a downgrade in usability to have a crippled exposure meter + reduction in autofocus performance, etc. I've recently tried every mode on my ZV-E1 when it comes to exposure, multi, centre weight, face priority, manually exposing with zebras set to 70%, etc, etc and multi face priority was to my surprise great (in simple-ish studio like yours). I then downloaded a few random highly rated LUTs from FreshLuts and tried both SLOG3 and Rec.709 LUTs and both looked really fantastic and to my eye appeared as better starting points than LeemingLut, without the usability downgrades. I'm a colour grading noob though so maybe I am missing something obvious.
Your excitement is absurdly contagious. Thanks for that. Question. I have a color checker for photography, what's the difference with the one for video exactly? Can I use the one that I have for video?
you can use that for video, but it doesn’t have the same swatches in the same places. the video editors can sometimes just automatically line up the video checker and do it for you. And more importantly, the video colour checker has the black, middle grey and white strip which makes it easier to adjust you exposure. but you can make any colour checker work, just marks out the black to white chips and you’ll be able to do a similar thing.
I know this is odd, but is there a way to send video in from an external source to the zv-e10 to monitor from the flip screen? Dont ask why ;) Can't find any info on it.
Hey Mark, thanks for posting this! Do you have a tutorial without the Leeming LUT? I tried following this by using Sony's LUT (since its free) but can't seem to replicate colors even with a color checker passport. (Also following another tutorial with the color checker.) At some point, I will get the Leeming LUT, but can't right now.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I appreciate your quick reply! And looking forward for that tutorial! 🥲 I hope your UA-cam channel skyrockets to the stars! Wishing you all the success and recognition you deserve.
You can also expose normally (I find the ZV-E10 meter should be +.3 or +.7) and use the Leeming Athena instead of the Pro.
yes - the Athena is very helpful - should have mentioned that!! Will pin.
What is considered “normal” in terms of skin tone zebras?
@@drakegostream in rec 709- usually between 60-70 IRE on the face
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis thank you for coming back to my comment. much appreciated
your channel and these videos will be the strongest reason i end up buying a zv-e10. What a great coverage you have done on this tiny nifty powerful camera. Thank you mark, for doing such in depth review over one single product, and not just doing it for the sake, but also using it as your main camera in so many situations.
same here!
Guess what, after watching hours and hours of your amazing, often hilarious, and absolutely useful videos, i have bought a ZV-E10 with Sigma 18-50mm 2.8.
Cant wait to get back to using a proper camera after years. Thanks Mark for your channel and such interesting analysis :)
happened to me buddy just a week ago😅
I just got ZVE10 last week surprise to see that it still being mentioned in 2023
It’s still a great camera. And as long as we use 4k n the video world - it will be relevant for years to come
Nice to see you documenting your changes in opinions as they come! This channel has been invaluable in developing my understanding of my ZV-e10. My novice skill level and the fact most of my film work is in environments with uncontrolled lighting means I probably won’t use this for a while but good to know!
after going through tons of videos on UA-cam, I found your channel and mate I must say its absolutely remarkable. I bough 3 Sony zv-e10 and sigma lens suggested by you last week and I am so impressed with the quality of the camera. It was all possible because of you. Thank you for putting in so much efforts.
glad to hear I was able to help!!
You can also use higher saturation in the camera or a different color mode like s-cine tone or ITU-709 Matrix color mode with high saturation and the Slog3 gamma, and this will actually help keep the colors together bettter when shooting 8-bit. I used to do this all the time with my a73, and it worked so well I barely noticed when switching to 10-bit as long as I had my white balance nailed down.
Nice tip!!
exactly that what is I use, I use slog 3 with itu709 matrix, then in davinci resolve CST I choose slog 3 gamma and rec709 to rec 709
I was grading Slog2/ITU709MATRIX footage today, outside bright n sunny. I couldn’t believe how well it held up. Sky gradient n all.
nice!!
awesome, the ZV-E10 impresses again. I use mine primarily as a webcam but it also works as a b-roll or even a-roll depending on what I am doing.
Yet another win for the little zv-e10. I love that little camera. I e said it many times but for the money the zv-e10 is unbeatable. I have a FX30 and A7IV but find myself using my zv-e10 for quick easy shooting.
Would you recommend the zv e10 as a secondary camera for video at weddings? I need a camera that can record for 45 minutes without heat problems. Thanks!
How do you like the Sony fx30 vs the Sony a7iv?
@@lewcehjitl3282 FX30 is absolute unit. It can work in direct sunlight on a 100 degree day at 60fp 4k and never miss a beat but for photos it’s not great. The A7iv is great because it downs phot and video amazing. If I had to pick one and only one for hybrid use A7iv all day.
@@dandelionestudios you may have battery life issues at 45 minutes. The zve10 still uses the small battery. That’s what makes it able to fit in you coat pocket. You may want a FX30 or A7C
Great video. I've been using ZVE10 for 2 years now and I've had plenty of successful experiments with colorgrading all the color profiles(mostly random experiments). Some footage was out of this world, some waste of time. So don't you dare to buy anything more expensive if you didn't squeeze all the juices from ZVE10 people! Amazing camera.
How to learn colour grading?
i use the zv-e10 with the sigma 16mm f1.4 lens as a webcam most times. 720p quality over USB-C is good, but 4k24 over HDMI with elgato usb 4k stick is better. i use usb-c for notebooks and elgato for desktop. The picture quality is so good! Its outstanding! and you have full control over everything! no faulty windows driver, messing around with settings, or dont offer access to it!
Thanks for the updates on the ZV-E10. I will be getting mine soon so I can uses those picture profiles
Hey Mark! Thank you for this video! What a crazy coincidence as I’ve been exploring S-Log profiles on my little Dougie last couple of days! I was extremely confused about eye-detection problems with S-Log profiles while overexposed, good to know this is a common issue.
First of all, I should say, your channel is on the “Special Thanks” section of LeemingLUT website! Congrats on that! And I don’t think you can say “he doesn’t know me” from now on 😂
And also, in regard to auto focus issues again, my best workaround so far is to disable eye detection whatsoever (you can easily do that just by enabling product showcase mod), then set autofocus area to “Zone” and move it where your pretty mug is going to be in frame. Then I step down by 2 notches parameters regarding to auto-focus responsiveness, so it doesn’t distract immediately to waving hands etc. And there you go, this way I get pretty consistent picture in terms of focus and almost no backlights pulsing.
Cheers!
haha!! I didn't know that - I'll have to write him a message. I still think he wouldn't like me if we met. Great tip about the autofocus
Happy with HLG3 for now, but its good to know what this lil camera is capable of 🤩
I've been watching your channel for so long, and watched a lot of videos about "not using S-log 3" on the ZV-E10, but I start shooting two months ago in S-Log3 to start practicing color grading, and I thing it's really good, so good to see that your start using it too ahaha Keep up the great work dude! ✌
I still hope a zv-e20 will come out soon with 10bit and ibis. A zv-e1 with apsc sensor basically...
I love my small rig lights and soft boxes- pro level videography at a really affordable price. I honestly think the lighting gear set up for a shoot gets way more attention to give you that professional look to people watching you work, than the camera setup when shooting on location! Lol.
It’s true - someone setting up lights means business!!
Thanks for this video. I was scared to use SLOG3 with my ZV-E10 but I have now started - I'm loving the results! Somehow the Leeming LUT looks better when using SLOG3 than with HLG3.
It seems like you get color artifacts if you don't lock your exposure. I'm only using EV +1.0 in SLOG3 and use Leeming Athena. In Premiere, I increase my exposure by 2.5 and that seems to do the trick. Then just add contrast to taste.
The focusing issues seem to occur when your camera is under-exposed. Using EV +1.0 or above is fixing the focusing issues.
So far I'm leaving my white balance on auto and it's working fine. Need to experiment more and see.
You’ll see the focusing issue of over exposed too much too. +1 with Athena seems like a good solution
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Quick update - I've been playing with slog3 a lot today. Turning on Gamma Assist in setup seems to help the camera focus better. Keeping White Balance on Auto doesn't affect the image
Haha I’m so glad you were wrong bc I have had a ZVE10 since day one and I’ve been hoping that the slog 3 was not as shit as the internet made it out to be. The ZVE10 is so much more capable than it should be at its price it’s true value that keeps it right around the #1 selling camera on Amazon even with many more newer better feature Rich cameras but nothing beats the value of that DOUGIE!
this is a good time to be wrong!!
I have never seen Little Dougie look so wonderful! Tea Time. Cheers!
Great Mark!! Thanks. I was really looking forward to a video like this one. It def isn't easy for beginners to shoot log and get really good shots. You're the best!
Mark, first of all, thanks for showing and teaching us. Just bought my ZV-E10 and I am loving it! I am now at the point where I need to sort out the picture profiles. For a studio shot, I don't mind calibrating everything but what if I plan to wake up, hit record and start vlogging in various environments / circumstances. In your opinion, what PP (process) should I use to achieve the footage you are showing us here since I am also considering buying the Leeming lut. Many thanks for all!
Little Dougie always comes out the winner! What a champ!
I am shocked. Nail exposure and white balance and you are good to go. Nice.
You have all the best Dougie tips! Thanks Mark!
you, I just start trying slog 3 for the sony zv e10 yesterday, with itu709 matrix it is soo good
Well, Mark, we sing your praises. Yes we do.
For better lighting, do what I do and light a candle turn off the lights start recording and make sure you do not blow out the flame on the candle. Test for low light and call your new lighting system Flickering Light. Cheers!
We need the same video but with Slog 2!!! Amazing as always!
Thank you for this video! Always want to see how you edit your photos also!
REVOLUTIONARY!!! Thanks Mark as always!!! Can you try S-Log2 with the ITU-709 matrix color profile? I think DSLR video shooter made a video about it and said that was the setting that gives maximum dynamic range while not breaking up the colors.
Can you do a S-Log3 vs HLG3 comparison? Just want to see if there's any visible dynamic range difference?
So what is a better vlog camera ?
The zve10 with a wide lens, or a Nikon z30 with kit lens?
The zve10 with an additional lens is then almost the same as the zve1
@@spirittravels. Imho the ZV-E10 is for sure the better vlog camera (than the Nikon Z30). However, if you _do_ want to get into the Nikon system, the Z30 may be a good starting point, but the ZV-E10 is a much better camera. A ZV-E10 with an additional lens (for example a Sigma 16mm or 30mm or Viltrox 23mm) will be approximately around $1000-1150, if you get the ZV-E10 stock price ($698). If you get it used, however, you can really cut down prices, and the whole setup could be less than $1000, which is less than half the price of the ZV-E1 currently! Of course, it's up to you to decide, but the ZV-E10 is never a bad starting point imo.
@@CornerstoneWorshipTutorials thank you for the detailed update.
much appreciated 👍
@@spirittravels. No problem at all!!
@@spirittravels. Here's actually a great review Mark himself did a while back! Totally forgot about it until I saw it in the suggestions: ua-cam.com/video/BaDOrqeIpfQ/v-deo.htmlsi=IHmJ_yDUnYD8lMDd
If you want to reduce banding (which happens alot with shooting slog 2&3 on 8 bit cameras). Add at least +20 saturation to the slog 2 or 3 picture profile. And in post when you use the transform luts (like leeming or phantom or Sony s709 lut) reduce the overall saturation by the percentage you increase it in camera and banding is gone or severally reduced.
I prefer phantom luts. They give a very natural cinematic look equivalent to arri log c.
yes. the phantom LUTS are great.
I have personally bn using slog2 and cine2 quite a bit, and I’ve had no problems . I prefer the look of those to the hlg3 in my workflow.
Hello, I think it would be interesting for you to make videos about even the smallest things about cameras, because there are things I don't really know. Many times when using a camera, I can't use all of its features, but thanks to you, I now know more about the features and uses of the camera. Thank you, and every time your video appears, I always watch :) Even though I don't have those high-end devices, the entertainment spirit is very good. :D Rarely does anyone on UA-cam have a funny and cheerful face like yours.
That’s a nice comment!!
I love your videos Mark! Unfortunate that I just returned my Sony zv-e10 for the fx30 but I'd love to see an HLG3 comparison to S-Log3 on the e10
you’ll be VERY happy with the fx30
Great content as usual and really pleased that Little Dougie still finds his way into your camera bag. I have many Sony Cameras from A7iii up to the FX3 and really pleased with the results. But with these higher end cameras I expect them to deliver great results because of the cost. But always surprised at how good the videos from the ZV-E10 are and top top value to buy. Going to buy the leeming luts now on the back of this video. Keep plugging Little Dougie - a little beast that snaps at the heels of bigger dogs!!! Be great though if Meike or the like built a battery grip for the ZV-E10 as the battery life as mentioned is rubbish. I know there is a third party one out there but the design and build quality looks questionable.
Thank you soo much for this video, I've got a Zv-E10 a few weeks ago and I'm still practicing, I've read that when you shoot in Log-3 you have to use the ETTR technique ( from +1.7 to +2 MM), but when I'm trying to increase the Metered Manual, I've got this message "Not available in the current ISO setting. Valid when set to "ISO Auto".
Could you give me some advise, please.
Thank you in any case
I've sold it already, your video makes me miss him :)
Great video mate. Little zve10 is amazing in every aspect. Keep well gorgeous.
I'm confused with all these profiles. I guess it depends on personal preference but finally, which one is the best? Can you show us the S-Log3 settings? Is there anything that we have to change to the default?
Wow what a great video, i cant lettery see a difference thata so important between those cameras.. i have the zv e10 also.. but banding with slog 3 is realy soft image
I've been HLG3 since you recommended it and have noticed you using other of these profiles. I'll give this a go.
Always nice to see what’s possible
On 8-bit Sonys, turning off internal recording and recording to ProRes on an Atomos Ninja V adds a lot more latitude for grading SLOG2/3, it also 'solves' the quirk of losing face AF and the 30 minute record limit using an external monitor (on an A7III, etc.)
Really helps a ton on the a7iii
I can honestly say, you have become the Ron Jeremy of camera channels!
the Hedgehog
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis 😜😆
ZV-E10 is far proffessional to use than what the brand says, if you use some great lenses (SIGMA)❤️🗿
Because of my skin tone, i use custom zebras in my fx cameras at 41. Then I use the fujifilm conversation lut or the official sony and make tweaks.
ohh - have to try that!!
I was literally just looking up the zv-e10 with slog3 and here you are 😂
Haha
I have ended up with pp off. Did some hlg and can easily see how much better it is than ppoff. But then i grab my cam for a few photos, and since I'm usually in a hurry, or just being quite whimsical, i shoot a few rounds before realising that im in hlg mode on the photos too.
Of course nothing you can't save by using the raw files. Nut more often than not I just want to use the beautiful jpegs straight from the camera.
Wish i could have different settings for stills and video.
In your opinion, which is the best for recording in the studio for UA-cam? What configuration you use in PP? And you use exposure in +1.7? Im from brazil, thanks for sharing knowledge
Im in the mindset that they wouldn’t add it as a feature if it wasn’t useable? ive found over exposing 1.3-1.7 is the best way to get good results with this setting. Really enjoying the ZV-E10.
That is fantastic Mark. I am stunned by the quality of lil' Duggie.
ordered mine after taking your words for granted, if it sucks imma come after you🤕
you’ll love it
Unapologetically handsome.😊
try using Slog3 but set in camera color to IUT709 instead of sgamut and do the color space transformation in Davinci resolve; just transform the gamma from slog3 to rec709. it looks imho better than slog3 to 709 leeming lut. problem with 8bit slog is not in gamma but in colorspace; using 709 eliminates color noise in 8bit and gives the superior image.
Thanks man. Need to save this video for a more in depth review. Will you be doing an in-depth workflow between zv-e10 and ninja v, including exposure? Your landman (landman?) Undone made a couple of them with the legalization toggle and set up but I think you can beat him in his terrain! And it will help us mortals to understand better!
Can you make a video on how to use the leeming luts on videos taken in environments where the white balance and exposure is always changing? For example: I have the zve-10 and I like to shoot car cinematics which includes lots of run and gun shooting. That causes the light in the area as well as the white balance to constantly change. How could I set my camera up to allow me to still use the leeming luts while not being able to adjust white balance and exposure on the fly.
What settings and log do you recommend for gym videos
Thanks for the content as always, Mark! I thought I wasn't missing out on Slog3 but now it might be back in the toolbox 😅. For someone who doesn't need to color match between different cameras as you need, which would be higher in your rank: Cine2, HLG3 or Slog3? The ZVE10 is my only camera and I'm going with Cine2 with the Leeming Lut Pro currently.
I would choose cine2 overall. You get a great image and you don’t have to overexpose and if you mess us your settings - it’s easier to recover
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thank you very much for the reply, Mark! Greetings from a fan from Brazil! 🇧🇷
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Same here, i don't see myself using a 10-bit camera in the near future (currently only zv-e10) and looking for a good setup for solo run and gun, natural light only. I shoot manual mode for full control and want to have some space for color grading in the footage, but I can't expect perfect light situations and usually have short time schedule. Every guide/tutorial/suggestion out there finishes with "do some more digging online", well, I've dug about everything there is but still not sure which profile to use... What would you suggest for my setup and needs? Interiors and exteriors, landscapes and architecture. No action, at times talking head interviews. Thanks for a great channel!
I love your content sir. This little beast gonna be my first camera.I want you to shoot some wildlife with zve10. ❤🇮🇳
10:55 - Footage is like fish. Normally it's fish and footage. Until it's fishes and footages. 😄
For me it's footages all the way down 🤪 Go ZV-e10!
Yes. I do it in all my videos. A dumb running joke
If I lock the shift sensitivity, would I still lose the face focus with this zebra setting?
Do you record your youtube videos in 24 or 30fps using the ZV-E10 and 16mm lens? 4k30p has a crop factor from what I read about the camera.
small 1.1 crop in 4k30. I use the 24 so there’s no crop for me
I’ve been saying that because you’ve been saying that
haha. echo chamber. but I mean, slog3 is probably still not the BEST choice 🤣
Thanks man!
Mark, I did get the Sony ZV-E10 as you suggested for indoor talking head videos for UA-cam. (I still don't have the Sigma 16mm f1.4)
All the other things you talk about here seem overwhelming to say the least. I don't want to become a cinematographer or video expert but do want a decent looking, kind of pro/cool looking video for UA-cam and talk about my topics.
*What would be the simplest way of doing this, with less amount of extra gadgets, least amount of tweaking, and the least amount of settings?*
Do you have a video or video series for those people like me?
Thank you for all you share and teach.
Mark, as the ZV e10 world’s top expert 😊, I have a question only you may know: if I output 1080p60 via HDMI to an Atem Mini, without recording internally does the file format for rec settings (4K or 1080p) would impact the HDMI output quality? Like, if the camera set to record in 4K would it output a better 1080p via HDMI? Thanks a lot for you input and keep the great work on this marvelous piece of gear!
it’s possible, because Gerald Undone showed setting the A1 camera to 8k but recording to a 4K recorder made better footage. but I’ve never tried that. Maybe give it a test a and do a side-by-side
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisisWill do and let you know. I don’t want to loose the eye tracking on 4k30 and I don’t like 4k24 for streaming, but I’ll give it a try. Thanks for the reply, next pint of apple juice is on me 😊
Mark I'd love a video that shows a few scenarios where 8bit falls apart compared to 10bit.
Btw: I've subscribed and am waiting for that vid. 😉
anything remotely close to lowlight will have the image fall apart. so if you need to bump your iso off the base - you’ll start to get weird colours
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis oh well, I won't be able to use it then. Btw your videos about the zve10 convinced me to get the camera for video work, even though I'm a Nikon photog since forever. The Nikon Z system just doesn't have such a cheap and versatile body and such a great lens selection. I bought the 11mm f1.8 as well. Looks like a no-brainer.
Been thinking for a while to grab this, however I’m also considering FX30 or even A7C II. I just started doing some video content and I want something that I can see for both videos/photography. What would you pick?
I would get the a7cii if you want photos and videos
don't feel bad! even I didn't know this and I'm not from Newfoundland!
Just French kiss a raw Cod and you lol be much more learned.
Thank you for reminding me about those excellent LUTs. Quick question: Do you notice any unusual color artifacts, especially on the skin? UA-cam's conversion should eliminate most of them, so it's hard to tell. However, I've been able to fix these issues by increasing the saturation by +20 in Picture Profile and then reducing it in post-processing. It's a good tip for anyone having the same issue.
I think the skin tones look good if I white balance and expose well - but I do increase the saturation in post
thanks youuuu for this video
Hey Mark, absolutely love your videos and humor. But with all seriousness. ZV E10 or ZV 1 for some fitness videos and on demand content shooting ?
I would do the zv-e10 with the sigma 16. you’ll be happier in the long run
wow,that is great sharing 😍😍👏👏
could you try to achieve the best result possible with a kit lens....Im a big fan of your work
Great video Mark 👌
I guys, I’m about to buy a zve10 with 10 000 shutturs count for 410€ is that too high or is it okay ??
I need u :p
That shutter count is fine. Lots of life left in it
Do you post photos/videos of your creative work anywhere?
When I got my E10 I started learning about profiles, hlg3 and SLog, color grading and so on; then one day I had the idea to use some short videos with different PP, luts and corrections to ask my friends and coworkers with of the samples they liked the most. I was very surprised when, after so many hours learning and practicing, almost all of them told me their favourite was PP off.
So now I like to know about the technical stuff in videos like this, but in the end I just do what the people around me say they want: if I use my Sigma 18-50 I use PP off without any color correction (just 10 seconds adding a tiny bit of contrast in post and that's it); and if I use a manual or vintage lens I use PP3 straight from the camera (it has some violet tint and sometimes I correct it slightly). I know it's not technically the best or most accurate, but it's my audience who makes the rules for me.
Go with what works!!
Hello, I'm thinking of buying this as a backup camera for Canon R6. What would you recommend as an affordable lens? Unfortunately, prices in Turkey are very expensive.
try the sigma 16mm f1.4
great video again sir,
aside the great videos where i learn new and beneficial things every time, sometimes i pop in to watch your video because of that beat playing in the background, it's so groovy.
is it custom made for you/your channel or you got it off a song or instrumental?
It's just the bass and drums of a track I got from Epidemic Sound called "Play It Cool"
thank you sir, i found it, play it cool by duke herrington @@MarkBennettCameraCrisis
HI , what about low light ????? can u recommend which profile for low light , we are planning to shoot a horror shot film
ppoff is best with bad lighting. But the best thing to do is light your borrow movie well, and make it moody in post
Hey Mark .. love your work
You may have heard of the DJI osmo pocket 3
I think it's coming for our beloved duggy and the likes
Would love to see your take on it
It has the potential to become the next zv-e10 for your chanel
Hi. I'm about to buy a ZV-E10 or a6400 for you tube. What is the best nowadays.
zvE10 has more usefull plug ins, but the a6400 has еру Viewfinder and flashlight (could be usefull if i decide to take a photo). can't decide.
Which one is better in 2k23/2k24 ??
The zv-e10 is a little better for video because it has the flip out screen and gyro data and e-stabilization and an updated autofocus. The evf is definitely nice for photos, but I would still recommend the zv-e10
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thank you! That's exactly what i wanted to hear🤝
ok but how did u set up the zv e10 to shoot in slog3?
pp8 is slog3
hi and help! I‘ve just picked one of these cameras up but too many items are greyed out in the menu..And it is only offering me 25 p 100 m and 25p 60m...I have tried the factory reset bit it made no diffeence. I am sure I have missed a trick here but cant work it out. Am going to post my sos to some other posts..
Hi there! Try to switch pal/secam.
Thanks! Mark Bennett replied last week to my question..
sir samyang v-af 24mm T1.9 vs Samyang 24mm 1.8 Compaing video please ( becouse this 24mm length sony A7iv 4k 50p/60p corp mode 36mm . ) 24mm& 35mm. this is my fevotait leanth
get the 24 f1.8. you will want that autofocus my the phot camera lens. it will likely be more reliable
thanks for this video! if i shoot overhead content, unboxing reviews etc. do i expose for my hands with the 85 zebra then?
yes.
Hello, what best lens for zv E10 for birthday or baptismal? Thank you for answering
Probably sigma 16 f1.4
👍💙....I, (and my own little "Dougette"....😁 she thinks she's a real person ) thank you for all the tips, great info, and helpful advice.
She’s real to me
Nice video as always. So which picture profile do you recommend for outdoor shooting such as vlogs or cinematics so that we can get the maximum dynamic range possible? ( my self and the sky😂)
The cine2 profile with the LeemingLUT is what I use. You won’t always be able to get the sky though with any camera if it’s too bright outside.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisisis cine 2 a picture profile like hlg or slog? And even can't we expose sky and face with a full frame camera?😮
If you are shooting in the bright sun, you’ll have to choose between exposing for the face or the sky on even a full frame camera. Production companies will use giant sheets of diffusion for outdoor shots in the bright sunlight
Beautiful channel! Im a newbie and Im learning a ton from you. I want to start my youtube channel and have been planning to purchase ZVE10. Is it still worth purchasing now? Or should I wait a little for an update since it’s been out for 2 years? Or should I be looking at other cameras?
The ZV-E10 is definitely worth it
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thanks! Any idea on what the life cycle of this product line is? Like when will the “ZVE20” be out?
Can someone tell me why my zve10 only has 24p 50 m and 30p 50m and no 24 or 30 100m recording setting?
You are in 1080 (HD). Switch to 4K and you will see 24 and 30 100mbps
Your videos have helped me quite a bit. I started a welding UA-cam channel for fun, but I already want to step things up and do other content. I've cleared out a small room in our house that was mainly being used for storage to use as my mini studio. I just got a ZV-E10 along with a Sigma 16mm lens. I went from a GoPro 7 to a GoPro 12, and from using the GoPro mic to a Comica wireless one. I then started debating using my older A6000, but the lack of 4k, and no mic input make it less than ideal for video. I'm about to paint, once that's done I can start setting things up! Any color recommendations?
a grey is great. not too light or dark. medium (or middle grey like the grey card) Great for skin tones and you can change the colour by shining any light on it. also great for knowing your white blade is proper.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thanks Mark, I really appreciate it!
It would be interesting to see a video of LeemingLut vs just using the Sony one or one of the many free ones available online, e.g. FreshLuts. It just feels like a bit of a downgrade in usability to have a crippled exposure meter + reduction in autofocus performance, etc.
I've recently tried every mode on my ZV-E1 when it comes to exposure, multi, centre weight, face priority, manually exposing with zebras set to 70%, etc, etc and multi face priority was to my surprise great (in simple-ish studio like yours). I then downloaded a few random highly rated LUTs from FreshLuts and tried both SLOG3 and Rec.709 LUTs and both looked really fantastic and to my eye appeared as better starting points than LeemingLut, without the usability downgrades. I'm a colour grading noob though so maybe I am missing something obvious.
I’ll check it out!!
Hey, can you do a video on Catalyst Browse vs Gyroflow stabilization?
Your excitement is absurdly contagious. Thanks for that. Question. I have a color checker for photography, what's the difference with the one for video exactly? Can I use the one that I have for video?
you can use that for video, but it doesn’t have the same swatches in the same places. the video editors can sometimes just automatically line up the video checker and do it for you. And more importantly, the video colour checker has the black, middle grey and white strip which makes it easier to adjust you exposure. but you can make any colour checker work, just marks out the black to white chips and you’ll be able to do a similar thing.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis cool. Gracias
The photography one won't align with the vectorscope.
I know this is odd, but is there a way to send video in from an external source to the zv-e10 to monitor from the flip screen? Dont ask why ;) Can't find any info on it.
not that I know of
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Yeah it's an unusual configuration. I'll have to look into affordable external monitors, all i need is a vhs cam reference.
Hey Mark, thanks for posting this! Do you have a tutorial without the Leeming LUT? I tried following this by using Sony's LUT (since its free) but can't seem to replicate colors even with a color checker passport. (Also following another tutorial with the color checker.) At some point, I will get the Leeming LUT, but can't right now.
I’m going to do a free slog3 tutorial in a few days. I’ll include a conversion LUT (that you can make yourself if you want)
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I appreciate your quick reply! And looking forward for that tutorial! 🥲 I hope your UA-cam channel skyrockets to the stars! Wishing you all the success and recognition you deserve.
which option is better for ZV-E10
Tamron 17-70 f/2.8 for 648 $
Sigma 18-50 f/2.8 for 445 $
both great - tamron better for more coverage but it is much beige than the Sigma - depends on your preferences
I am using slog3 on zve10 for the start and wondering why you are saying it will be falling apart.
Nice video though
it does not fall apart if you shoot well and colour grade appropriately - which clearly you must do