Mark... this is why you are my favorite content creator for all things cameras. After the mark 2 came out I was just thinking... "Now, if someone would just make a video comparing the new Mark 2 with the a6700 it would be perfect." 😏
I've got it, I can assure it will do everything you want. I haven't even used it to it's full capabilities and I probably never will but it just does EVERYTHING 🤝
@@tanmaysakpalofficial No it does not do everything. I have the a6600 and the a6700 is far too soft of an upgrade for more then just a few folks. If the a6700 can do everything you want, they you really aren't trying to do much.
I gonna buy the ZV E10 Mark II, because I only need it for vlogging. It‘s more beginner friendly and the size is perfect for travel. I will use the Sony 11mm fe1.8 lens and I‘m fine for almost every situation. By the way - I’m freakin love the cine vlog mode 🤘🏻
I disagree the thoughts at the end where you said $400 can be too much for someone when thinking of a6700 as an option. Going with either the cameras, if you add the cost of 2-3 lenses and accessories, this $400 no longer looks like a big cost. This is just Sony trying to upsell. Their most selling camera was E10, so they didn't want to replace it, instead they brought a new option at a price in between it and a6700 so that they can keep selling E10. And if some competitor brings something that threatens E10 sales, they will retire it and reduce the price of E10 ii. Plus, this will upsell some of E10 folks all the way upto a6700. A win-win for Sony no matter which you choose. Nothing wrong with it, just mentioning the product strategy here. In my opinion if this was at E10 price, it would have been fantastic no brainer option, and an instant buy. But at the current price, it is a pass. This was supposed to be a low cost camera, that was its main selling point. Once that is gone, it doesn't make much sense for its intended vlogging purpose without IBIS. It can be a great studio-camera, that's about it, but E10 can do the same anyway.
you may disagree - but you don’t know peoples’ budgets. some people can budget for one body and one lens. Read through my comments and you’ll see a bunch who don’t want to spend the extra on the a6700. I’m not saying anyone has to buy it, but it’s the cheapest way to get these features in the Sony lineup.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis People have differing budgets - true. But if budget was that much of a constraint, they are better off with older E10. What I meant is that, they have created a situation where either the top end or the bottom end makes sense, but not the middle one. Basically this is the ladder product strategy, same as the one used by Apple for all their products is what I meant. Anyways, fantastic review as always. I watched your yesterdays and todays review of this camera. I was someone looking to buy this, hoping it had IBIS.
No, I think Mark has his points. Spot on as well. If you want better images, lenses is the best way to go. I owned ZVE10mii and pre ordered the mark ii. First lens I grab is Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 and it made significant improvement.
@@AngkelBee that sigma 18-50 is an incredible lens. Very happy I pulled the trigger on it when it was on sale. Even at normal price, I'd say it's an excellent buy.
i've been following this channel since I wanted to buy the ZVE10 and here I find the most honest review... Every channel is SO focused on maximum performance and "yeah.. just buy the most expensive one if you can but the other one isn't going to be so bad" Here, it's the other way round... Mark is highlighting every aspect and I feel like he almost says "dont buy this if you dont know what you need it for" Also, the low light comparsion he makes are THE BEST BY FAR... taking care of the Colors, light % , lenses and the same image Thanks mark! Sadly some one stole my ZVE10 but I'll go this time for the A6700
It doesn't really hit you when you look at them in videos, but I was a little bit shocked at how much larger the a6700 body is when handling display units in the store. It's pretty much larger than an a7c, even if it is a little lighter. I know I'm a minority but that was actually a real deterrent for me. I like to be able to bring my camera all over the place and not draw attention, and I also regularly bring a bunch of camera stuff while climbing mountains so every bit of weight and bulk I can save is very welcome. Specs wise the a6700 is perfect, but I couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger, and although I wish the zv-e10ii could do a little bit more, I'm feeling like I would probably be getting it over the a6700.
That was a very detailed comparison. After seeing some other UA-camrs review the new ZV-E10, I sort of already knew that the A6700 is more what I’m looking for. And this video made that even more obvious. Thank you for summarizing the differences between the cameras in such a detailed manner.
So I was excited about the new zve10 but I don’t think I’m going to upgrade mine right now. I have a A7iv a FX30 and the OG zve10. I don’t think that new camera will do much for me. I film in 1080 so the 4k doesn’t mean much. The battery life would be nice but I like a mechanical shutter for photos and the price was a bit higher than I expected. I think for now I’ll keep the OG zve10
Great job on the video Mark! Thanks for making it. We're having an event next weekend at my store, and all the major vendors will be sending Reps (Revelations?) so hopefully I will be getting some hands-on time with this new unit. It is compellingly priced as a C-cam for those of us that already have the FX30 and A6700.
Thanks Mark. To be honest, I think ZV e10 ll is a weird release from Sony! You pay the price for an upgrade, but it's not an actual upgrade compared to Mark I. We're in 2024, it has the label of vlogging camera but it doesn't have IBIS! If you only want something for vlogging and simplicity, Osmo Pocket 3 is a way better choice in my opinion (I stopped using my a7s iii in favour of that for vlogs). If you need photography as well as video, and price is an important factor, ZV e10 Mark I is still a great choice. If you're happy to pay more for a more professional body, go for a6700. Simple 😁
Damn you are quick :D I'm in the a6700 camp. If someone is slightly interested in photography, the EVF and the mechanical shutter is more then just a bonus. And for video the pro list is so damn long as listed literally in this video. Paying 40% more sounds very high, but this is one of the rare cases where I would say paying the 40% brings you more then 40% value - as long photography is an interest. Great job Mark! Curious which kind of comparison you will pump out next :D How about Sony ZVE10 II vs. Lumix S9? 🤔
You read my mind with this video. Was literally just thinking about which was the better cam and lo and behold which video is sitting on my homepage when I opened youtube... many thanks as always.
Hello Mark! Awesome video as always! I currently have the ZV-E10 (version 1). Do you think it’s a good idea to upgrade to the A6700? What camera would you recommend after the ZV-E10 V1?
Great content Mark, thank you. Im coming from the ZVe10 and looking to upgrade, the A6700 has been on my radar for a while, I don't mind the extra bucks cause I do think its worth it myself. Thanks for the in depth review!
I own the FX30 and I absolutely love it. the new ZV-E10 looks amazing and it's very tempting....but I think I would still get the A6700. For b-roll and better photos. That EVF is a big selling point. But the price of these (ZV-E10) almost makes you buy it without knowing anything about it. Great review Mark, always enjoy your take on these gadgets. be well!
For me zv-e10 m2. I use it as a second camera. Lighter, cheaper. E-shutter is better in astrophotography - no shaking. It really depends on your personal needs. If i should buy one I would go then with a6700
Saving up for the 6700 instead of upgrading my ZVE10 to the new mark 2, have a nifty 50 from Sigma and the E 1.8/11mm already and they work great right now so will hopefully be able to use those on the 6700 as well.
The correct launch price for ZV-E10ii under the current spec should have been $850, although I still think they intentionally cut too many corners that won't necessarily save them much cost.
This is the only points that I think mark ii misses a bit. But looking at ZV1mii launch price is already heavy but horrendous features, I think it is also because of current's economic performance. Though I wish it was more affordable as people bought mark i one of it because of its affordable price.
Great Video. Thanks for the reviews. I still want the A6700, but the mark ii is making a compelling argument on why I should buy it. Maybe I NEED both. Keep up the good work! I sub'd.
Great video!! I have an A6700 and love it! Do you think you could make a short video (or even community post?) about setting up the A6700 to act like product showcase mode? And even map it to a custom button? I'm sure many others would love to know as well. I use my A6700 for product reviews, so it would definitely come in handy. Thanks!
After years of neglect, Sony's APS-C line seems like its most fully fleshed out. I think the combination of FX30 for pro video and A6700 for b-roll/stills would be hard to beat, with the ZV-E10II being a great entry point for beginners.
I bought my E10 mk1 half a year ago. I love it but I was prepared to buy the mk2 when it shows up. But mk2 looks like as bulky as A6700 (detailed size comparison would be cool) and it's too expansive. That's 1000 bucks I can put forwards to A6700. Also, here in Czech Repiblic the difference is approx 300 USD. I already do have bunch of lenses, so no rush to keep the difference money. I'll just stick with my OG Duggie a bit longer. ❤
the only time i think getting a zv-e10 ii would make sense is 1. you focus entirely on making vlogs or 2. you need a second lighter body to the fx3 / fx30 or a6700 if you do video work otherwise if: - you need a camera that can do 50/50 photo & video - weather sealed body - you need 4k120 then its a nobrainer a6700
Mark you read my mind 😅 Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks. Would you consider doing a comparison between the 6700 and fuji x-s20? The open gate format is really tempting me for shooting for both vertical and horizontal videos…
I would definitely say the mark 2 is a great camera for a low price for any videographer or vlogger looking for high quality video without having to pay high quality video money. But if you can spend an extra $300 to $400 then hands down by a 6700 because with all the features that comes with the a6700 is a no brainer. You have the dynamic range of a Sony a7r 5 in crop mode You have 5 to 6 stops of inbody stabilization Do you have a evf You have a camera body that is weather sealed And you have a mechanical shutter It's definitely worth the money but the mark 2 is also a great camera for what its intended for and at a awesome price.
Good to know! So there are some video/vlogging-centric differences that favor the ZV-E10 II, compared to the a6700, if they're both at full price. And also the fact that ZV-E10 II is better than a6700 when it comes to overheating. The ZV-E10 1, being so small, wasn't great, but there the battery would probably die a bit sooner than from overheating. Don't know if you mentioned the tally light, which I would personally would want in any hybrid camera. It's nice both for you to know that you're rolling if you're in front of the camera, and for your talent as well it can be useful. Really liked it on my ZV-E10 1. As well as that, the ZV cameras are very funny once you put the wind muffs on, they look to have either a fro, or an Elvis-style hair. Other than that, there is quite a lot of overlap in video, for many Sony cameras with relatively close prices: - ZV-E10 II / a6700 - FX30 / ZV-E1 So it also depends on whether one does only vlogging, or wants to have a great event video camera. Or a great photography travel camera as well. Or just IBIS. So it can be hard to choose. And probably the ZV-E10 1 will be sold for a lot of time, because the ZV-E10 II is not actually a replacement, but a higher-entry-level camera, and their prices also reflect that. And the ZV-E10 1 is also smaller and a bit lighter.
I think zv-e10II is in a weird spot, as it is neither a budget camera nor a mid-level camera. It's too expensive (compared to zv-e10m1) . If it was $800, it'd be an instant buy. Or for $1200, if it had 4k120, IBIS, and weather seal body, then it would be an instant buy, too.
Yes i agree. Weird spot. I cannot recommend mark ii for most of my friends. I would recommended them mark i as they arent cinema purist like I am. Just casual users who wants point to shoot stuff.
Agree. The price tag throws value off. Sub $999 was a huge selling point. $749-$800 w/o lens is the sweet spot. At $999, the 6700 at $1399 is a better deal.
Awesome comparison. Thorough, concise and entertaining. I think it should be mentioned that the ZV zoom rocker only works with Sony zoom lenses (super pricey glass that quickly wipes out the $400 savings).
Thank you Mark Another advantage of the 6700: uncompressed RAW, which in low light or astrophotography is a must. Of course that only makes sense for photography. Cheers.
Your review from the ZV-E10 II is the best in the whole world I've seen! It is better than Jareds, in my opinion! If you have the chance to get the Fuji X-T50, I am really looking forward to a compression with the Z-VE10 II!
I got the a6700 instead, more features which the zve10 II lacks, i preordered the zve10 coz it was only availbale preorder, while eating dinner they messeged me the a6700 was availble so i took it, im happy with the a6700 with my vitrox 23mm 1.4 from my ol;d a5100
Hi Mark, Thanks for all the videos and tips. Please could you make a video on which Sony camera is the best overall for live streaming, and which setup gives the best results. thanks again
Go for e10. I got 3 of them, you can get multiple angles for cheap, it’s better to have more angles. They are on tripod so you don’t need all the fancy stuff
I have the A6700 as well as the original Dougie.. The MkII seems to be a halfway house between the 2 (but still tempting!) and I still don't understand Sony in not having IBIS in a camera sold for Vlogging, nice camera though.
I use my ZV for 50/50 stills and video, and was really excited for the mk2. Unfortunately they got rid of the mechanical shutter which makes it a complete no-go for my kind of work. If I had the money, I would've gotten the a6700, but I don't, and I also don't need a viewfinder as I'm using an external monitor 90% of the time. Too bad...
Wow, you really laid it out well. I have the a6700 and A7R3. Did have the ZV-E10 but gifted it to my grandson. The a6700 is not only the jack of all trades, but it masters most of the trades like a pro. I am extremely satisfied with the a6700. It really is a joy to use. And with that AI chip, I am happily doing macro photography in my back yard, pestering little crawlies and getting deep into the buds of my fruit trees. If a photographer can 'cough' up the extra money, I would recommend the a6700 by a longshot. Conclusion, it's a photographer/videographer's dream.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I just posted 4 photos of a bee on my little plant, very colorful on flickr. I was using the Sony 90mm macro with the a6700. Incredible quality. It was quick and dirty so I didn't enlarge or crop. 'Redcrow1949.'
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Now that something bad happened in my country, just south of you, President Trump was hit in the ear by a bullet, I am going to let you go and not comment on anything. I'm shifting gears. I'm upset. I'm shocked. I love your show, you are a hoot. And I hope you keep pumping aps-c and all the goodies in photography. But I'm upset and worried that on July 13, an assassin tried to kill Trump at a rally. Be good, continue to amuse us. Talk to you later.
A6700 is not masters of all , it has a 15ms rolling shutter and mediocre lowlight capability. The z6iii does 6k60 with 9ms of rolling shutter , the a7s3 has 12800 usable iso , the a7rv is 62mp. The a6700 is a master of none BUT quite profficient in most
@@JJARCHIE You assume I do video. No. I do stills and a lot of macro photography. That is where this camera excels. Mark is heavy video, so people assume we all are engaged in making videos. There are a lot who love photography/stills. So, I appreciate your views, but you are way off target. If I was heavy into videos, I would be using different equipment. Realize the images from the a6700 are very good, good enough to make poster size prints. I, unfortunately, don't really care for videos. Not my bag. Oh, I have been shooting stills since 1972 and I have a ton of film (B&W and color) yet to be scanned.
I think you have the most expensive Chanel on UA-cam, my wife hates when I watch your stuff 😂 straight down to the camera shop….again Seriously Great work though
What most people don't consider when asking why any company leaves features out of one product versus another is the ability to sell the lesser product at an even lower price than it's typical listing price while still making money. The A6700 might have enough margin for Sony to discount it $200 while still making enough to be profitable. While the ZV-E10 II could like be discounted the same $200 while maintaining a higher total margin or at a $300 discount while still eaking out a profit and making up the difference on volume. And when it's on sale for $799 and the A6700 isn't on sale that makes the ZV-E10 II seem like an even greater value to those who are just going to use it as a video platform. Now it's a $600 savings and that's a decent lens and tripod worth of difference. Not to mention that when the ZV-E10 II is bought at it's typical list price there's even more margin going into Sony's pockets than when the A6700 is bought at typical retail. You also have to keep in mind that marketing matters. A lot of people simply don't understand that something like the A6700 is an equal and often better video platform just because it's not marketed as a "creators" camera. Remember, the target audience isn't pro photographers or videographers who understand all the specs. There are plenty of amateurs who need marketing to tell them what they are buying. Also, don't forget the market for those looking for a secondary camera for video where they just don't need all the features and want to save some money. I have long used a Sony camcorder with great results when I wanted video but now that I have a Sony A6600 and an A7IV having the ability to use the same lenses on a less expensive "video-centric" rig sounds appealing.
I see the ZV-E10 II being a better starter camera for someone who would like to start recording videos, and not spend as much. Both the easier to find options, which make it easier to find the more automated "tools", who would help a beginner more, and also the microphone, which I believe is something meaningless for a professional, who most likely will have an external mic in any occasion. As a beginner, personally I would prefer to go for the A6700. Even though it's 400$ more expensive, I like outdoor shooting more, and having a viewfinder on a sunny day, or a stabilizer, would be a big help I believe. Also the AI chip would help anyone, more or less, on a situation where you do many things at once.
One thing worth mentioning would be the fact that the ZV-E10 II's lower weight is not only an advantage, but also a disadvantage as it even aggravates the camera's lack of stabilization: Microjitters have a much larger impact on a lightweight camera than on a heavier one as more force is needed to make it move. I often wondered why image stabilization of the 18-105 is so massively superior to the kit lens, and I think the answer is: Because it's four times as heavy. Very lightweight body and no IBIS is a terrible combination for photography as well as for handheld video shooting.
Not for me. I have an a6700 and use fixed lenses. Having the ZV-E10 II as a second body so I don't have to change lenses and a reduced weight is a bonus for trekking in the field. A lighter weight also allows me to hold the camera more steady because I don't have to use as much effort to hold it - which lets me focus on keeping steady - which I can do better with any lighter camera. It's actually the heavier cameras for me in which I tend to get the micro movements more often.
Hi Mark. I've been considering using the new E10 II outside in a tropical climate (Thailand). If using 4k 24 or 30fps, how long do you think it'll realistically last? And would that cooling fan you mentioned make any meaningful difference? Thanks!
I'm switching back to Canon. I love my A6700 - It's simply a very good quality build camera. But it can't beat how it records color across the spectrum compared to Canon. Of course, that is my personal taste. But I find it is so much easier to manage/tweek colors post production with a shot made with a Canon than Sony.
It seems like the IBIS in the a6700 offers more than just less crop than the digital image stabilization in the ZB-E10II. The side by side footage from the a6700 looked more _natural._ I suppose that could be my eyes tricking me because of the reduced crop, but I don't think so.
Hi mark, great comparison. They should've included mechanical shutter at least at this price point 😢. Also is the a6700's 4k is 6k downsampled right? But the zve10 m2's is 5.6k downsampled. Is this a downgrade?
When more crop is used, it reduces the number of pixels to be processed & less time for rolling shutter. At 4K120p, the ZV-E10 II would overheat far fast than the a6700. They pick features they think the cheaper/different market segment can do without, especially the ones that can make manufacturing it cheaper. Compromises vs perceived value to upgrade. I wonder if they could sell the a6700 cheaper & save the bother of designing/supporting yet more models. Can they make the mic, EVF, screen & flash as modular add-ons so users pick what's important each day/hour to swap?
Is the lack of 10 bit processing a new "feature" of free Catalyst Browse or did it convert all my A7IV 10 bit footage to 8 bit and I didn't notice? Perfect comparison, thank you ! MkI vs MKII next? Definitely will watch !
I’ve always wanted a camera. I was tempted to get the zve10. But put it off as it had already been out for a while so for the last 6 months I’ve been waiting for this. There is a lot of talk about videos etc. if I want a good camera for pics. How does the zve10ii do. A grand is a good price I could do.
The zv-e10ii will be better because it has product showcase mode and other helpful beginner modes. It can take all sony e-mount lenses (there are hundreds!!)
I consider that this ZV-E10 MK2 does not have the same impact in quality/price ratio compared to its predecessor. That said, the 6700 is the undisputed queen of Sony's APSC range. I take this opportunity to ask you, does the 6700 also have dual ISO like the FX30 and if so, despite not having the Cinema EI function, can it work in flexible ISO with the same principles of dual ISO for this 800 & 2500 sensor? Thank you in advance for your response, greetings.
Is it possible to use active stabilization and OSS from kit16502 on any Sony camera? I am wondering if using it on the original ZV-E10 will provide extra smoothness, as the electronic stabilization on that camera is pretty low. I am hoping that this new lens, together with Catalyst Browse, will enhance the stabilization to the level of the ZV-E1. The only terrible thing is the cropping, which becomes significant!
My a6700 has been amazing! Only problem with it is that it overheats in about 45minutes, when filming 4k30 10bit 4.2.2 in a room where the temperature is about 23°C. But I rarely need to record for that long.
If you have your camera open on a tripod with internal temp set to high and not connected to a HDMI monitor, you'll see your best results. If it still overheats in that environment, I recommend the Ulanzi cooling fan. Ulanzi fan: geni.us/SpringFan
Thank for your video about the zve10 mark II, I'm about to get one next month, but just want to ask you one more thing, which one have a better grip to hold ? a6700 or zv e10 mark II ?
hi Mark thank you for this comparison it really helps to decide which camera to buy. I have one question , when you connect an external monitor through hdmi or through usb-c to a mobile phone (to use Monitor+ app as a monitor) does eye autofocus works in 4K-30/4K-60? I am asking it for both cameras. ZV-E10 supports up to 1080p and no possibility to use eye autofocus in 4K , I was wondering if any of these cameras support 4K with external monitor connected?
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How about heat issue comparison? Also does 6700 have gyro data?
Mark... this is why you are my favorite content creator for all things cameras. After the mark 2 came out I was just thinking... "Now, if someone would just make a video comparing the new Mark 2 with the a6700 it would be perfect." 😏
Anybody who can call a camera Little Dougie is the sort of UA-camr who will be in sync with what we like and need :)
Ok here we go... A6700 has gotta take this race surely.
This vid is exactly what i needed... I'm thinking of buying zve10 now or save and buy a6700 later
No doubt! A6700 is just too good 🤌
I've got it, I can assure it will do everything you want. I haven't even used it to it's full capabilities and I probably never will but it just does EVERYTHING 🤝
@@tanmaysakpalofficial No it does not do everything. I have the a6600 and the a6700 is far too soft of an upgrade for more then just a few folks. If the a6700 can do everything you want, they you really aren't trying to do much.
@@natureredux1957 this is true if you already own an a6600. Plus even compared to a6600 I feel a6700 is a big upgrade.
Your reviews are actually my favorite! Straight to the point, direct points of pros and cons and fun commentary overall! so good man
Thanks!!
Excellent as usual... A6700 all the way, but might buy the ZV10-II for my wife...
The exact comparison everyone considering the ZV-E10II is looking for! Bravo!!
I gonna buy the ZV E10 Mark II, because I only need it for vlogging. It‘s more beginner friendly and the size is perfect for travel.
I will use the Sony 11mm fe1.8 lens and I‘m fine for almost every situation.
By the way - I’m freakin love the cine vlog mode 🤘🏻
Congrats on 70k! Your content is so useful for making buying decisions.
Thanks, April!!
I disagree the thoughts at the end where you said $400 can be too much for someone when thinking of a6700 as an option. Going with either the cameras, if you add the cost of 2-3 lenses and accessories, this $400 no longer looks like a big cost.
This is just Sony trying to upsell. Their most selling camera was E10, so they didn't want to replace it, instead they brought a new option at a price in between it and a6700 so that they can keep selling E10. And if some competitor brings something that threatens E10 sales, they will retire it and reduce the price of E10 ii.
Plus, this will upsell some of E10 folks all the way upto a6700. A win-win for Sony no matter which you choose. Nothing wrong with it, just mentioning the product strategy here.
In my opinion if this was at E10 price, it would have been fantastic no brainer option, and an instant buy. But at the current price, it is a pass. This was supposed to be a low cost camera, that was its main selling point. Once that is gone, it doesn't make much sense for its intended vlogging purpose without IBIS. It can be a great studio-camera, that's about it, but E10 can do the same anyway.
you may disagree - but you don’t know peoples’ budgets. some people can budget for one body and one lens. Read through my comments and you’ll see a bunch who don’t want to spend the extra on the a6700. I’m not saying anyone has to buy it, but it’s the cheapest way to get these features in the Sony lineup.
Agree, actual price is a bit too high for E10 II, in my country it's price is very close to fujifilm X-S20 which is overall better camera, except AF.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis People have differing budgets - true. But if budget was that much of a constraint, they are better off with older E10. What I meant is that, they have created a situation where either the top end or the bottom end makes sense, but not the middle one. Basically this is the ladder product strategy, same as the one used by Apple for all their products is what I meant.
Anyways, fantastic review as always. I watched your yesterdays and todays review of this camera. I was someone looking to buy this, hoping it had IBIS.
No, I think Mark has his points. Spot on as well. If you want better images, lenses is the best way to go. I owned ZVE10mii and pre ordered the mark ii. First lens I grab is Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 and it made significant improvement.
@@AngkelBee that sigma 18-50 is an incredible lens. Very happy I pulled the trigger on it when it was on sale. Even at normal price, I'd say it's an excellent buy.
Mark, thank you!! I am debating between a6700 and zve10ii and here you are, with exactly what I need! ❤️🔥
Which you buy
I think I will go with a6700
Always waiting for your comparison videos. Thank you for this Mark! Great video!
i've been following this channel since I wanted to buy the ZVE10 and here I find the most honest review... Every channel is SO focused on maximum performance and "yeah.. just buy the most expensive one if you can but the other one isn't going to be so bad"
Here, it's the other way round... Mark is highlighting every aspect and I feel like he almost says "dont buy this if you dont know what you need it for"
Also, the low light comparsion he makes are THE BEST BY FAR... taking care of the Colors, light % , lenses and the same image
Thanks mark!
Sadly some one stole my ZVE10 but I'll go this time for the A6700
Sorry to hear about your ZV-E10!!
Best Sony camera reviewer! Always very detailed, informative and honest. Nicely done!
the video I've been waiting for!!
It doesn't really hit you when you look at them in videos, but I was a little bit shocked at how much larger the a6700 body is when handling display units in the store. It's pretty much larger than an a7c, even if it is a little lighter. I know I'm a minority but that was actually a real deterrent for me. I like to be able to bring my camera all over the place and not draw attention, and I also regularly bring a bunch of camera stuff while climbing mountains so every bit of weight and bulk I can save is very welcome. Specs wise the a6700 is perfect, but I couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger, and although I wish the zv-e10ii could do a little bit more, I'm feeling like I would probably be getting it over the a6700.
yea, it’s always best to get hands on!!
A7cii has the same body size as the a6700
Between these two, A6700 particularly if I can get it at a good used price.
That was a very detailed comparison. After seeing some other UA-camrs review the new ZV-E10, I sort of already knew that the A6700 is more what I’m looking for. And this video made that even more obvious. Thank you for summarizing the differences between the cameras in such a detailed manner.
So I was excited about the new zve10 but I don’t think I’m going to upgrade mine right now. I have a A7iv a FX30 and the OG zve10. I don’t think that new camera will do much for me. I film in 1080 so the 4k doesn’t mean much. The battery life would be nice but I like a mechanical shutter for photos and the price was a bit higher than I expected. I think for now I’ll keep the OG zve10
Makes sense to me
Great job on the video Mark! Thanks for making it. We're having an event next weekend at my store, and all the major vendors will be sending Reps (Revelations?) so hopefully I will be getting some hands-on time with this new unit. It is compellingly priced as a C-cam for those of us that already have the FX30 and A6700.
Yes - a perfect use case
Thanks Mark. To be honest, I think ZV e10 ll is a weird release from Sony! You pay the price for an upgrade, but it's not an actual upgrade compared to Mark I. We're in 2024, it has the label of vlogging camera but it doesn't have IBIS! If you only want something for vlogging and simplicity, Osmo Pocket 3 is a way better choice in my opinion (I stopped using my a7s iii in favour of that for vlogs). If you need photography as well as video, and price is an important factor, ZV e10 Mark I is still a great choice. If you're happy to pay more for a more professional body, go for a6700. Simple 😁
Excellent breakdown/ comparison Mark!
Thanks, Jason!!
Damn you are quick :D
I'm in the a6700 camp. If someone is slightly interested in photography, the EVF and the mechanical shutter is more then just a bonus. And for video the pro list is so damn long as listed literally in this video. Paying 40% more sounds very high, but this is one of the rare cases where I would say paying the 40% brings you more then 40% value - as long photography is an interest.
Great job Mark! Curious which kind of comparison you will pump out next :D
How about Sony ZVE10 II vs. Lumix S9? 🤔
I did a pre-order! Looking for a lighter version setup compared to my zve1 with full frame lenses. I always use CB too but wish they added ibis!
Thanks for keeping us up to date as always 🫡
Hi Mark, you just keeping me advising the new camera’s and options for my vlogs! Many thanks!!!
Great video! Would love to see a comparative between the OG ZV-E10 and the Mark II
on the way
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis filing a request for a comparison of 1080p footage quality between the two!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisiswhen will you upload it🫣😂😂?
I’m about to pull the trigger on the ZVE10 M2 as my first camera 🫣
Mark, I appreciate you making this. 👊🏻
I appreciate you commenting
One of my favorite camera/gear channels. ❤
You read my mind with this video. Was literally just thinking about which was the better cam and lo and behold which video is sitting on my homepage when I opened youtube... many thanks as always.
My favt creator is back
Hello Mark! Awesome video as always! I currently have the ZV-E10 (version 1). Do you think it’s a good idea to upgrade to the A6700? What camera would you recommend after the ZV-E10 V1?
Great content Mark, thank you. Im coming from the ZVe10 and looking to upgrade, the A6700 has been on my radar for a while, I don't mind the extra bucks cause I do think its worth it myself. Thanks for the in depth review!
I own the FX30 and I absolutely love it. the new ZV-E10 looks amazing and it's very tempting....but I think I would still get the A6700. For b-roll and better photos. That EVF is a big selling point. But the price of these (ZV-E10) almost makes you buy it without knowing anything about it. Great review Mark, always enjoy your take on these gadgets. be well!
For me zv-e10 m2. I use it as a second camera. Lighter, cheaper. E-shutter is better in astrophotography - no shaking. It really depends on your personal needs. If i should buy one I would go then with a6700
Great video. I think I will be sticking with my A6700 for sure. I could still tell a difference in the clips. Thank you for the video!
Saving up for the 6700 instead of upgrading my ZVE10 to the new mark 2, have a nifty 50 from Sigma and the E 1.8/11mm already and they work great right now so will hopefully be able to use those on the 6700 as well.
Hey Mark, Thanks for the video, i was in 2 minds but after this I’ve decided to go ahead and purchase the A6700, Thanks for the help.
That was fast :o Keep the ZV-E10 II x ZV-E10 x A6700 videos comin'!
The correct launch price for ZV-E10ii under the current spec should have been $850, although I still think they intentionally cut too many corners that won't necessarily save them much cost.
It would have flown off the shelves at that price. would have loved to see it. even 898
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Considering how much cheaper ZV-E1 is compared to a7S3 without cutting too many corners, I think $850 is reasonable.
This is the only points that I think mark ii misses a bit. But looking at ZV1mii launch price is already heavy but horrendous features, I think it is also because of current's economic performance. Though I wish it was more affordable as people bought mark i one of it because of its affordable price.
@@AngkelBee ZV-1ii is a bust no doubt. Sub$1k market is very competitive, especially against iPhone and Pocket 3.
Just wait a few months and it’ll be $850.
Great Video. Thanks for the reviews. I still want the A6700, but the mark ii is making a compelling argument on why I should buy it. Maybe I NEED both. Keep up the good work! I sub'd.
Great video!! I have an A6700 and love it! Do you think you could make a short video (or even community post?) about setting up the A6700 to act like product showcase mode? And even map it to a custom button? I'm sure many others would love to know as well. I use my A6700 for product reviews, so it would definitely come in handy. Thanks!
The review i have been waiting for . Thanks, Mark . Excellent video ..
After years of neglect, Sony's APS-C line seems like its most fully fleshed out. I think the combination of FX30 for pro video and A6700 for b-roll/stills would be hard to beat, with the ZV-E10II being a great entry point for beginners.
I bought my E10 mk1 half a year ago. I love it but I was prepared to buy the mk2 when it shows up. But mk2 looks like as bulky as A6700 (detailed size comparison would be cool) and it's too expansive. That's 1000 bucks I can put forwards to A6700. Also, here in Czech Repiblic the difference is approx 300 USD. I already do have bunch of lenses, so no rush to keep the difference money. I'll just stick with my OG Duggie a bit longer. ❤
This is the video I was looking for, what a timing.
Wow thank you so much for this awesome review, that 12% vs 33% active crop really made my decision easy for this one!
This video did justice.
For me just the viewfinder is a dealbreaker.
the only time i think getting a zv-e10 ii would make sense is
1. you focus entirely on making vlogs or
2. you need a second lighter body to the fx3 / fx30 or a6700 if you do video work
otherwise if:
- you need a camera that can do 50/50 photo & video
- weather sealed body
- you need 4k120
then its a nobrainer a6700
thanks for liking this sir Mark! been following your cam reviews and as always .. its very well made !! kudooos
Mark you read my mind 😅 Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks.
Would you consider doing a comparison between the 6700 and fuji x-s20? The open gate format is really tempting me for shooting for both vertical and horizontal videos…
I would definitely say the mark 2 is a great camera for a low price for any videographer or vlogger looking for high quality video without having to pay high quality video money.
But if you can spend an extra $300 to $400 then hands down by a 6700 because with all the features that comes with the a6700 is a no brainer.
You have the dynamic range of a Sony a7r 5 in crop mode
You have 5 to 6 stops of inbody stabilization
Do you have a evf
You have a camera body that is weather sealed
And you have a mechanical shutter
It's definitely worth the money but the mark 2 is also a great camera for what its intended for and at a awesome price.
Good to know! So there are some video/vlogging-centric differences that favor the ZV-E10 II, compared to the a6700, if they're both at full price. And also the fact that ZV-E10 II is better than a6700 when it comes to overheating. The ZV-E10 1, being so small, wasn't great, but there the battery would probably die a bit sooner than from overheating.
Don't know if you mentioned the tally light, which I would personally would want in any hybrid camera. It's nice both for you to know that you're rolling if you're in front of the camera, and for your talent as well it can be useful. Really liked it on my ZV-E10 1.
As well as that, the ZV cameras are very funny once you put the wind muffs on, they look to have either a fro, or an Elvis-style hair.
Other than that, there is quite a lot of overlap in video, for many Sony cameras with relatively close prices:
- ZV-E10 II / a6700
- FX30 / ZV-E1
So it also depends on whether one does only vlogging, or wants to have a great event video camera. Or a great photography travel camera as well. Or just IBIS. So it can be hard to choose.
And probably the ZV-E10 1 will be sold for a lot of time, because the ZV-E10 II is not actually a replacement, but a higher-entry-level camera, and their prices also reflect that. And the ZV-E10 1 is also smaller and a bit lighter.
I think zv-e10II is in a weird spot, as it is neither a budget camera nor a mid-level camera. It's too expensive (compared to zv-e10m1) . If it was $800, it'd be an instant buy. Or for $1200, if it had 4k120, IBIS, and weather seal body, then it would be an instant buy, too.
Yes i agree. Weird spot. I cannot recommend mark ii for most of my friends. I would recommended them mark i as they arent cinema purist like I am. Just casual users who wants point to shoot stuff.
Agree. The price tag throws value off. Sub $999 was a huge selling point. $749-$800 w/o lens is the sweet spot. At $999, the 6700 at $1399 is a better deal.
Great point here! They know what they are doing. But guess what, I'll just keep my money or keep researching
Awesome comparison. Thorough, concise and entertaining. I think it should be mentioned that the ZV zoom rocker only works with Sony zoom lenses (super pricey glass that quickly wipes out the $400 savings).
when you’re using clear image zoom, the rocker will work with all lenses - but yes, optical zoom - only power zooms
This is the comparison video I needed. I’ll save the $400. Thanks!
Thank you Mark
Another advantage of the 6700: uncompressed RAW, which in low light or astrophotography is a must. Of course that only makes sense for photography.
Cheers.
thanks for mentioning
E10 mark II doesn't shoot uncompressed RAW stills?
I have the ZV-e10. I love it. But I would love to have a 6700. It checks my boxes.
Forbes DEFINITELY said that. I even saw the video in times Square on the big screens. Crazy part is, Ive never been to new York!
Facts!!
Outstanding, Mark! Sony is killing it these days!!
yeah - their cameras just work for me and what I do
Your review from the ZV-E10 II is the best in the whole world I've seen! It is better than Jareds, in my opinion!
If you have the chance to get the Fuji X-T50, I am really looking forward to a compression with the Z-VE10 II!
It's really strange here in thailand the retail price difference is 277usd only
I got the a6700 instead, more features which the zve10 II lacks, i preordered the zve10 coz it was only availbale preorder, while eating dinner they messeged me the a6700 was availble so i took it, im happy with the a6700 with my vitrox 23mm 1.4 from my ol;d a5100
This is the best camera comparison of all time.
Hi Mark,
Thanks for all the videos and tips. Please could you make a video on which Sony camera is the best overall for live streaming, and which setup gives the best results. thanks again
seconded.
Go for e10. I got 3 of them, you can get multiple angles for cheap, it’s better to have more angles. They are on tripod so you don’t need all the fancy stuff
I have the A6700 as well as the original Dougie.. The MkII seems to be a halfway house between the 2 (but still tempting!) and I still don't understand Sony in not having IBIS in a camera sold for Vlogging, nice camera though.
I use my ZV for 50/50 stills and video, and was really excited for the mk2. Unfortunately they got rid of the mechanical shutter which makes it a complete no-go for my kind of work. If I had the money, I would've gotten the a6700, but I don't, and I also don't need a viewfinder as I'm using an external monitor 90% of the time. Too bad...
The a6700 is my favorite camera of all time. I use it with my a7iv (which I love) but I prefer the a6700 because of the form factor.
it’s so great
Wow, you really laid it out well. I have the a6700 and A7R3. Did have the ZV-E10 but gifted it to my grandson. The a6700 is not only the jack of all trades, but it masters most of the trades like a pro. I am extremely satisfied with the a6700. It really is a joy to use. And with that AI chip, I am happily doing macro photography in my back yard, pestering little crawlies and getting deep into the buds of my fruit trees. If a photographer can 'cough' up the extra money, I would recommend the a6700 by a longshot. Conclusion, it's a photographer/videographer's dream.
It's their best value camera to me for sure
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I just posted 4 photos of a bee on my little plant, very colorful on flickr. I was using the Sony 90mm macro with the a6700. Incredible quality. It was quick and dirty so I didn't enlarge or crop. 'Redcrow1949.'
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Now that something bad happened in my country, just south of you, President Trump was hit in the ear by a bullet, I am going to let you go and not comment on anything. I'm shifting gears. I'm upset. I'm shocked. I love your show, you are a hoot. And I hope you keep pumping aps-c and all the goodies in photography. But I'm upset and worried that on July 13, an assassin tried to kill Trump at a rally. Be good, continue to amuse us. Talk to you later.
A6700 is not masters of all , it has a 15ms rolling shutter and mediocre lowlight capability.
The z6iii does 6k60 with 9ms of rolling shutter , the a7s3 has 12800 usable iso , the a7rv is 62mp.
The a6700 is a master of none BUT quite profficient in most
@@JJARCHIE You assume I do video. No. I do stills and a lot of macro photography. That is where this camera excels. Mark is heavy video, so people assume we all are engaged in making videos. There are a lot who love photography/stills. So, I appreciate your views, but you are way off target. If I was heavy into videos, I would be using different equipment.
Realize the images from the a6700 are very good, good enough to make poster size prints.
I, unfortunately, don't really care for videos. Not my bag. Oh, I have been shooting stills since 1972 and I have a ton of film (B&W and color) yet to be scanned.
I think you have the most expensive Chanel on UA-cam, my wife hates when I watch your stuff 😂 straight down to the camera shop….again
Seriously Great work though
@@davidmaxfieldgolf 🤣🤣
absolutely loved the details listed for both camera , I was looking for such detailed video between A6700 and ZV E10II
man oh man... I've had my first cam for almost a year, Cannon r100 and seriously thinking about switching to the a6700.
What most people don't consider when asking why any company leaves features out of one product versus another is the ability to sell the lesser product at an even lower price than it's typical listing price while still making money. The A6700 might have enough margin for Sony to discount it $200 while still making enough to be profitable. While the ZV-E10 II could like be discounted the same $200 while maintaining a higher total margin or at a $300 discount while still eaking out a profit and making up the difference on volume. And when it's on sale for $799 and the A6700 isn't on sale that makes the ZV-E10 II seem like an even greater value to those who are just going to use it as a video platform. Now it's a $600 savings and that's a decent lens and tripod worth of difference. Not to mention that when the ZV-E10 II is bought at it's typical list price there's even more margin going into Sony's pockets than when the A6700 is bought at typical retail. You also have to keep in mind that marketing matters. A lot of people simply don't understand that something like the A6700 is an equal and often better video platform just because it's not marketed as a "creators" camera. Remember, the target audience isn't pro photographers or videographers who understand all the specs. There are plenty of amateurs who need marketing to tell them what they are buying. Also, don't forget the market for those looking for a secondary camera for video where they just don't need all the features and want to save some money. I have long used a Sony camcorder with great results when I wanted video but now that I have a Sony A6600 and an A7IV having the ability to use the same lenses on a less expensive "video-centric" rig sounds appealing.
I see the ZV-E10 II being a better starter camera for someone who would like to start recording videos, and not spend as much. Both the easier to find options, which make it easier to find the more automated "tools", who would help a beginner more, and also the microphone, which I believe is something meaningless for a professional, who most likely will have an external mic in any occasion.
As a beginner, personally I would prefer to go for the A6700. Even though it's 400$ more expensive, I like outdoor shooting more, and having a viewfinder on a sunny day, or a stabilizer, would be a big help I believe. Also the AI chip would help anyone, more or less, on a situation where you do many things at once.
Someone requested this video and Mark delivered in like two days 😂
One thing worth mentioning would be the fact that the ZV-E10 II's lower weight is not only an advantage, but also a disadvantage as it even aggravates the camera's lack of stabilization: Microjitters have a much larger impact on a lightweight camera than on a heavier one as more force is needed to make it move. I often wondered why image stabilization of the 18-105 is so massively superior to the kit lens, and I think the answer is: Because it's four times as heavy. Very lightweight body and no IBIS is a terrible combination for photography as well as for handheld video shooting.
Not for me. I have an a6700 and use fixed lenses. Having the ZV-E10 II as a second body so I don't have to change lenses and a reduced weight is a bonus for trekking in the field.
A lighter weight also allows me to hold the camera more steady because I don't have to use as much effort to hold it - which lets me focus on keeping steady - which I can do better with any lighter camera. It's actually the heavier cameras for me in which I tend to get the micro movements more often.
i have the a6400 and consider to switch to the a6700 but not sure at the moment, because i do more photo than video.
Hi Mark. I've been considering using the new E10 II outside in a tropical climate (Thailand). If using 4k 24 or 30fps, how long do you think it'll realistically last? And would that cooling fan you mentioned make any meaningful difference? Thanks!
I have a couple m50s and m200 Canon cameras. And I will start switching to Sony with ZV E10 II this year.
I'm switching back to Canon. I love my A6700 - It's simply a very good quality build camera. But it can't beat how it records color across the spectrum compared to Canon. Of course, that is my personal taste. But I find it is so much easier to manage/tweek colors post production with a shot made with a Canon than Sony.
amazing review and comparison!
It seems like the IBIS in the a6700 offers more than just less crop than the digital image stabilization in the ZB-E10II. The side by side footage from the a6700 looked more _natural._ I suppose that could be my eyes tricking me because of the reduced crop, but I don't think so.
I thought it was a bit more natural too
I am on a budget and currently owning a ZV-E10, I'll probably go for the MK2 due to my limited budget... otherwise I would pick the 6700
Great review mate
Hi mark, great comparison. They should've included mechanical shutter at least at this price point 😢. Also is the a6700's 4k is 6k downsampled right? But the zve10 m2's is 5.6k downsampled. Is this a downgrade?
I have the zve1 but I want another camera for photos. I think the 6700 might be a good companion to my zve1.
When more crop is used, it reduces the number of pixels to be processed & less time for rolling shutter. At 4K120p, the ZV-E10 II would overheat far fast than the a6700.
They pick features they think the cheaper/different market segment can do without, especially the ones that can make manufacturing it cheaper. Compromises vs perceived value to upgrade.
I wonder if they could sell the a6700 cheaper & save the bother of designing/supporting yet more models. Can they make the mic, EVF, screen & flash as modular add-ons so users pick what's important each day/hour to swap?
Great video. The sign is definitely more visible.
I always love your videos!!!
Is the lack of 10 bit processing a new "feature" of free Catalyst Browse or did it convert all my A7IV 10 bit footage to 8 bit and I didn't notice? Perfect comparison, thank you ! MkI vs MKII next? Definitely will watch !
it has always been converting it. But like I mentioned - looks fine to me
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Indeed I never noticed !
So clean 😌
Nice video 😀
I’ve always wanted a camera. I was tempted to get the zve10. But put it off as it had already been out for a while so for the last 6 months I’ve been waiting for this. There is a lot of talk about videos etc. if I want a good camera for pics. How does the zve10ii do. A grand is a good price I could do.
Nice video!
Sony ZVE-10 II with IBIS or Alpha 6700 with the better microphone would be a perfekt combination.
I don’t see people talking about this,as a beauty creator will the zve10ii be better?? And what other lenses can the zve10ii take??
The zv-e10ii will be better because it has product showcase mode and other helpful beginner modes. It can take all sony e-mount lenses (there are hundreds!!)
I consider that this ZV-E10 MK2 does not have the same impact in quality/price ratio compared to its predecessor. That said, the 6700 is the undisputed queen of Sony's APSC range. I take this opportunity to ask you, does the 6700 also have dual ISO like the FX30 and if so, despite not having the Cinema EI function, can it work in flexible ISO with the same principles of dual ISO for this 800 & 2500 sensor? Thank you in advance for your response, greetings.
LOVED your video!!
Is it possible to use active stabilization and OSS from kit16502 on any Sony camera? I am wondering if using it on the original ZV-E10 will provide extra smoothness, as the electronic stabilization on that camera is pretty low. I am hoping that this new lens, together with Catalyst Browse, will enhance the stabilization to the level of the ZV-E1. The only terrible thing is the cropping, which becomes significant!
My a6700 has been amazing! Only problem with it is that it overheats in about 45minutes, when filming 4k30 10bit 4.2.2 in a room where the temperature is about 23°C. But I rarely need to record for that long.
If you have your camera open on a tripod with internal temp set to high and not connected to a HDMI monitor, you'll see your best results. If it still overheats in that environment, I recommend the Ulanzi cooling fan. Ulanzi fan: geni.us/SpringFan
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I think that is exactly how I use it. I'll double check the temperature setting tho. Ty
Hi Mark, I think I'll buy the ZV-E10 m2. I will use it in 4k 50fps. Which SD card do you recommend me? Thanks and keep going!! 🤗
Thank for your video about the zve10 mark II, I'm about to get one next month, but just want to ask you one more thing, which one have a better grip to hold ? a6700 or zv e10 mark II ?
Both really great, but I prefer the a6700 slightly. Deeper grip
hi Mark thank you for this comparison it really helps to decide which camera to buy.
I have one question , when you connect an external monitor through hdmi or through usb-c to a mobile phone (to use Monitor+ app as a monitor) does eye autofocus works in 4K-30/4K-60? I am asking it for both cameras. ZV-E10 supports up to 1080p and no possibility to use eye autofocus in 4K , I was wondering if any of these cameras support 4K with external monitor connected?
yea, these cameras keep eye autofocus connected to to monitors and the app
Have you tried the overheating on USB-C streaming but at 1080p, 60 FPS? I would use this product for UA-cam content creation "studio" mainly.
I going for the A6700 because I already have the ZVE10 mark I