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Oh yeah, I wanted to say something. That was a very nice thing on Tara's head. It brought pleasure to me, if that was what it was intended for.🎉. Me and other men are attracted. There is someone in the room that should have noticed its introduction quicker to the session, but he's a man and we have problems sometimes noticing.
@@KevinMiller-ol2wi It is like an advantage to our commentary. Lol They squeezed a little bit in that movie but I loved it when it came out. I do love judging things afterwards though. I think the word hate gets used a lot and we actually don't hate as much as we think or maybe we do.
I think there was a misunderstanding, the Mutants who came to get the cure weren't going to be locked up afterward... that's why we see Rogue at the end returning to the mansion.
"Charles Xavier did more for mutants than you'll ever know. My single greatest regret is that he had to die for our dream to live." - Erik Lensherr/ Magneto
I don't like this movie at all, but I absolutely love that line. Great encapsulation of their friendship and how despite their key differences in approaching mutant/human relations, they had the utmost respect for each other.
His immediate reaction and his defense of Charles later in the film are solid, but it never rubs me the right way that he would continue to use Jean Grey (as desperate as he is) after that happened. The Erik of the other films in the series would likely go so far as to eliminate Jean himself immediately after she kills Charles. It's actually one of the larger issues I have with the plot of the film. Erik can be impulsive, but it's all about the survival of mutant kind and Charles Xavier was a more important person to keep alive for mutant kind than Jean Grey. He (spoilers) tries to kill Mystique in DoFP to keep all mutants safe, which is *entirely* in character, so I don't see him risking Jean Grey doing more damage to other mutants after she eliminates one of the most important and helpful mutants of the entire population.
@@HQBaconhonestly I think it’s only because of Charles himself that Erik didn’t try to destroy Jean. He know that Charles loved Jean and “died” trying to help her, so he wanted to try to finish what Charles started. It’s not compatible with his overall goals, but that goes to show the depth of his love for Charles.
I always thought the difference between the publics reaction to superheroes and mutants was based on their respective places in society. Heroes are often semi-sanctioned protectors that operate like a public service while mutants are integrated into daily life. People generally only see heroes doing their job while a mutant could be anywhere in society. Sorry for the length to anyone who reads this. I took a fat rip right before seeing this comment.
@TrickoTreatz precisely. Also because other superheroes either don't have powers or gain powers from external sources vs mutants who are born with it. Not that it's that big of a difference, objectively speaking, but in-universe mutants are hated for being born with their powers while mutates who choose to be heroes are praised.
The behind the scenes of this was insane. Multiple firings, budget cuts, scene deletions. It’s a miracle that we got Kelsey Grammar as Beast out of it.
Love this movie for this scene: Angel cutting his wings is a great analogy to what LGBTQI+ experiencie is. Hidding, self harm, shame from family and society. And... let's not even talk about "the cure".
i remember this as the first time i felt a genuine empathetic physical response to seeing a movie; i could feel this skin-crawling like bone grating rasping on the tips of my lower shoulder blades...Sound design does so much when done right and here it pulled you so far along into that scene... shame on Fox for not doing more with his character development... it was such a strong introduction to a character
10:09 my favorite xmen meme "Is it true!? They can cure us??" Asks the girl who kills people by touch. "No, there's nothing to cure," replies the Goddess of Weather
@@emosam07 I totally understand why Rogue would want to do it. It would be awful to never really be able to touch anyone, and to watch her boyfriend - even innocently - having ‘normal’ physical interactions with another woman.
I don’t care what anyone has to say about this movie that house scene alone where Jean kills Charles is my all time favorite scene in any superhero movie and for that matter the death of Jean as well
Hank saying “My boy I’ve been fighting for mutant rights since before you had claws” is absolutely hilarious given that Logan is easily 100+ years older than him 😂😂😂😂😂
There were so many character deaths because this was intended to be the last movie with the full X-Men team. Many of the original cast's contracts were expiring after this movie, and they only planned to do standalone spinoff movies featuring the characters who were the most popular or had the most story to explore. That's why there's no X-Men 4, and the next film in the franchise is instead X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which of course is centered on Wolverine and his past as the title implies. They were also planning a solo film about Magneto when he was a young man, but that would eventually evolve (hehe) into X-Men: First Class.
Unpopular opinion: I always shipped Wolverine and Storm as a kid. Still do and this movie only solidified it. They have more chemistry than Logan and Jean. Basically because they had to grow closer since they became the leaders of the team in this movie.
There are comic stories where they're a couple. It makes the scene with Mystique seducing him kinda pointless, since I've heard a rumor that it was only in X2 so they could photograph Hugh and Halle in bed for the magazines.
Apparently it was said in the movie commentary that it was her failed usage of cerebro in the last film that broke down Charles’ psychic barriers in Jean
Yet the director (whose name we shall not say) and the movie itself specifically state it was the radiation from Magneto’s machine on Liberty Island that caused Jean’s powers to grow.
@@packedentertainment2866X2, the beginning of the movie when the students are on a field trip to the museum. Jean’s telepathy starts activating, and it interferes with the electronics. Scott says to her “ever since Liberty Island, you’ve been different.” The Liberty Island incident was when Magneto used his machine to try and turn the people of New York into mutants. And during the scene in X1 when the machine is destroyed, we get a closeup of Jean reacting to being hit with the radiation, looking dizzy and gasping, when everyone else is fine.
This movie definitely got bad reputation mainly because of the poorly handled Phoenix Saga and the director’s choices for scenes. At least it has the one line I still love quoting. “I’m the Juggernaut, b-!”
I think the main issue is that it tries to bring in the Phoenix saga, the Cure saga, AND a final confrontation with Magneto in one film. It also gets rid of both Cyclops, Mystique, Jean, and (sorta) Rogue. It tries to do too many things at once so it's all a bit shallow. But it has some really good scenes in it so it's not a bad movie. But it's overstuffed to the brink. You also have to mentally separate the comics from the movies because some of the changes can be pretty distracting otherwise.
It's also way too short. X2 was longer than Last Stand wasn't it? And this movie needed at least 2h 30 mins if not >2 hrs 45 mins to flesh out any of the story arcs it features.
I find it hilarious that Hank did in fact call Logan “Boy” and claimed he’s been doing things for mutants since before Logan had claws I find it funny bc Logan is close to 200 some years old 😂 which hints to why Logan said did he just call me boy
After rewatching these, I honestly get why people are mad that James Marsden gets wasted in these movies and I agree, especially since he probably gives his best performance in this movie and he’s barely in it.
Like the other guy said, James was filming other things that conflicted with the filming of this and X2. At least Cyclops wasn't done as dirty as Juggernaut was.
Here’s the thing. y’all can make as many excuses as you want that he was shooting Superman or whatever, but that movie also sucks, and he is also completely wasted in that movie so if anything it makes my point.
Rogue: “Is it true? Can they cure us?” Storm: “No, they can’t cure us. Do you want to know why? Because there’s nothing to cure. Nothing’s wrong with you. Or any...” Rogue: “Are you serious right now?! I LITERALLY KILL EVERYONE I TOUCH!, While you are recogized as a god by some people!" Rogue: "We are not the same!"
Yeah..its funny how they try to pigeon hole the entirely of mutants and there powers into you are all ok..uh no, many mutants and there particular powers aren't positives for them or those around them.
Every one always think storm is in the wrong. What if we told gay people we could cure them. We cant being gay is just who they are and theres nothing wrong with being gay. Storm didnt want rouge getting the "cure" bc there was something wrong with her. Storm didnt care id she got the cure just her reasoning behind wanting it.
This movie is better than people give it credit. Yes, it has problems but none of the films were perfect. I loved Beast and we finally got to see Storm fly. Plus, the scene between Charles and Phoenix has Exorcist vibes.
True, there are great moments like those you mentioned and Bobby finally getting fully iced out. But there things that were awful as well, like everything about JJuggernaut and Multiple Man as a villain (which he never was).
I love you two doing commentary together, such great chemistry, it makes watching these even better! Also,thank you, Tara, for fixing my brain so that I will always call him Mag-net-o after 40 years of calling him Mag-neet-O. 🤣😂
Storm's powers are tied to her emotions. When she is sad, if she doesn't control her feelings, the sky become cloudy. If Storm becomes angry, she could manifest a hurricane . -- Shout out to Kelsey Grammer (Beast), I loved his acting.
Luckily he didn’t see him die in days of future past when the sentinels are about to do it before the timeline resets & later when Scarlett Witch kills him in his head in multiverse of madness which likely means that his mind either convinced him that he’s dead & stopped breathing or he’s just ina coma. But either way … he’s died way too many times 💀
That's the tragedy of Wolverine in the Fox Universe. He's the only one in the all of the X-Men movies (Logan as well) that remembers absolutely everything.
I remember watching this in theaters and when Ben Foster broke out of the restraints I blurted out “impressive wingspan”. Didn’t realize I said it aloud until everyone in earshot bursted out laughing 😂
The acting in this film is next level. Despite some of the story choices in this film I’ve really appreciate the acting so much more now thanI ever have.
@@JohnSmith-rm1po they could still do that story arc without having to vilify the characters. Because I feel like this unnecessarily makes people dislike Bobby and Kitty a little bit. Rogue is clearly his girlfriend, like they call each other so, but dude goes on an ice skating date with someone who clearly has a crush on him. We already know Rogue struggles with touching people, it’s a well laid plot point of the first two X-Men movies, that can be enough to motivate her to want the cure we don’t need a third-party.
49:17 - MIRRORING THE 'VAN HELSING' ENDING - The demise of the main bad guy, a cure, and the leading lady dying in the arms of the wolf-like lead, Hugh Jackman.
What’s crazy is I think only beast sees things from rogues perspective. And it’s only a little bit. Storm just refuses and is like there’s nothing wrong with you. But I’m like how can she ever have a child? Have a real relationship? Is no one noticing that some powers not only suck but hinder real life.
They both understood her situation but they were also both heavily against the cure. They believed that she would eventually be able to control her powers(which she does in the comics) and that she should learn to accept herself.
Exactly! Imagine not even being able to hug your parents, let alone have a fulfilling romantic relationship, or kids. Such a depressing way to live, especially for a teenager who’s eager to grow and experience new things in life.
Rogue's choice to take the cure is absolutely understandable. A huge part of human condition is physical contact. No intimate contact, not being able to have kids of your own, would be a very depressing. They were good at first making it a choice to take the cure, but then they pushed it over the line when they decided to weaponize it. Sometimes, you gotta draw hard lines in the sand. And Tara kept saying "Take the cure and go to prison", they don't go to prison if they take the cure. The guy was saying that they turned Alcatraz, which WAS a prison, is now the place where they created the cure.
This iteration of Professor X is so powerful that, like Superman, he would tend to prevent stories from happening which means the first job in all three scripts is figuring out how to sideline him. Poisoned Cerebro in 1, captured by Stryker in 2, dead in 3.
Frustrating fact: they took the relationship that Logan had with Jubilee (in the cartoon and comics) and gave it to Rogue. I’ve always loved Jubilee’s character and her relationship with Logan. Hoping the next time around she gets an actual role and that is done right.
I forgot about that, but I was disappointed that she only popped up in a scene or two and was usually in the background except for the mall scene in X2.
this along with the 2005 Fantastic Four have been unjustly vilified. I think they're pretty good early Marvel movies. light, well made and just all around FUN.
FF is worse than any of the X-Men movies imho. Bad humor, and Reed is down-right unlikable. The sequel is slightly better. Slightly. Storm and Ben are OK, the highlights of the movie. Sue is done extremely dirty, as is Dr. Doom.
It had potential but a few too many ideas stuffed in the movie messed it up. I liked it but it should of been a 2 parter since the Phoenix saga is a BIG STORY. Above average for me 6/10.
That fact that Cyclopses role in X3 was shortened because James Marsden was also in the Brandon Routh Superman Returns, gets me too. Such a waste of his talents.
@ReelRejects Tara's reactions bring you so much into the movie, and seeing Andrew get emotional during this film and the previous one helps me access my emotions 😊❤
26:15 The Professor only really has Telepathic powers, super low levels of Telekinetic. They're getting a lot stronger and usable now in the comics after Resurrection Protocols
Freezing time seems like a telekinetic power. I suppose you could argue that only happens in certain people's mind but they appear to walk normal speed during it which definitely wouldn't be possible if he was only freezing time for one person. I suppose he could be projecting everything onto everyone though. But still, that would appear to require some telekinesis as otherwise they wouldn't freeze.
Mystique: "If I escape, I promise to commit murder." Tara: "Get it girl!" lol Do have to give Tara credit for predicting the after credit scene. That was sharp. Yeah, this movie is still toward the bottom of the franchise for me. The returning cast is great, my problems are all story related. Yes, I knew of there was an after credit scene when released. I was on the superhero movie message boards in the early years, which is where most of us fans went to get the info. This was really at the beginnings of the after credit stinger, before the MCU had trained people.
Juggernauts powers not working makes sense for the movies but he isn’t a mutant he was charles xavier’s brother who was traveling thru a jungle wher he found a gem which possessed him with the power of cytorak making him unstoppable and durable
Most of it comes from those of us who watched the '90s cartoon, which did the Phoenix Saga from the comics VERY well, and X-2 lightly teased something more reminiscent of it at the end, but this is what we got instead. So definitely biased, but I felt a bit cheated, and overall I really didn't like this one as much anyway. I have tried watching it again several times, and while I can't say I HATE it, I don't ENJOY it either.
The Phoenix is a cosmic level deity! She is second ONLY to The One Above All! She overseen Galactus’s birth, more powerful than Celestials, Living Tribunal, Eternity, etc. She is POWER 🐦🔥
There are a million cure darts lying all over the ground at the end, why didn't he use a couple of those instead of his blades to stop her if he loved her so much.
The thing about the Phoenix that this movie got wrong is that, the Phoenix isn't some hidden power that Jean Discovered... It's actually a cosmic entity, with its own personality... And just like the FIRE 🔥 BIRD itself The Phoenixes powers all have to do with HEAT.. AND FIRE. HER POWERS OF TELEPATHY AND THE EXTREME HEAT is how she exploded Charles and Cyclops
I love the sprinkles headband! Tara, you're wearing so much color in the new videos. ❤ That's awesome. And I super understand why Rogue would want the cure.
Angel was always my favorite character in both X-Men, and later X-Factor, comics. Especially when he became Archangel. I never really cared for how the films deviated so much from the comics and didn't bother to build important characters, but as far as the acting, the action, and the special effects they're great. Awesome reaction guys! ❤❤
1:07:51 I don't remember seeing that after credits scene till I bought this movie on DVD a few months after seeing this in theaters at a early midnight showing.
at 28:41 there's a deleted scene where Jean was able to sub atomically rearrange the plastic gun to become a small sun and it pulses scorching heat waves that made the entire group in burn and fear hahaha I hope they kept it in. Goes to show a small fraction of what the Phoenix can do. hehehe
If you think about it, Tara calling him Mag-Neto makes more sense because it’s magnet with an o added. Which is what his powers are and would sound exactly like Mag-Neto! 👏🏽
Its actually pronounced Faum-Kah Jen-sen. Famke Jensen. Shes been around since 007 Golden Eye! Shes been killing it ever since! I love her work and loved her in this franchise. The whole cast of the original X-men was just *chef's kiss*
The only truly great thing to come out of this movie was the casting of Kelsey Grammer as Beast. He perfectly captured Hank McCoy’s charm and extreme intelligence along with his savagery in combat.
Its underrated and the alternate ending with this film was better and some of the extended fight scenes were an improvement but still didn't help the film. Also during the pre-production of this film Sigourney Weaver was attached to play The White Queen Emma Frost with the Hellfire Club wanting to control the power of the Dark Phoneix. I don't know if that would've helped the storyline for this third film. Also James Marsden's scenes reduced was due to him filming Superman Returns directed by Bryan Singer who left the project to film Superman in Australia.
I didn't know that there was a post credit scene, 18 years of not knowing they put a fricking post credit scene in X-Men the last stand. That blew my mind and it makes total sense why he was back.
The "cure" didn't work because you really cure genetics. It's more of a temporary suppressor. Rogue is my favorite character even though there's not much use of her powers except the second movie.
I love hearing Tara's unbiased take on this movie. I know this one gets a lot of hate, some of it deserved but there's a lot of really good stuff in this that doesn't get a lot of credit
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Oh yeah, I wanted to say something. That was a very nice thing on Tara's head. It brought pleasure to me, if that was what it was intended for.🎉. Me and other men are attracted. There is someone in the room that should have noticed its introduction quicker to the session, but he's a man and we have problems sometimes noticing.
As we all that seen this movie already we know what's gonna happen down the road with this franchise as far as what happens in this movie is concerned
@@KevinMiller-ol2wi It is like an advantage to our commentary. Lol
They squeezed a little bit in that movie but I loved it when it came out. I do love judging things afterwards though. I think the word hate gets used a lot and we actually don't hate as much as we think or maybe we do.
I think there was a misunderstanding, the Mutants who came to get the cure weren't going to be locked up afterward... that's why we see Rogue at the end returning to the mansion.
So, Origins: Wolverine and The Wolverine are next, right?
"Charles Xavier did more for mutants than you'll ever know. My single greatest regret is that he had to die for our dream to live."
- Erik Lensherr/ Magneto
I don't like this movie at all, but I absolutely love that line. Great encapsulation of their friendship and how despite their key differences in approaching mutant/human relations, they had the utmost respect for each other.
@@thedefinitionisthistoo bad. This movie’s GOATed
And Wolverine later accused him of letting the Proffessor die when it was nothing he could do
@@thedefinitionisthis I came to this reaction just to watch that line and to leave. Glad that the top comment itself talks about it
29:30
Magneto’s reaction to Charles’ death always gets me.
His immediate reaction and his defense of Charles later in the film are solid, but it never rubs me the right way that he would continue to use Jean Grey (as desperate as he is) after that happened. The Erik of the other films in the series would likely go so far as to eliminate Jean himself immediately after she kills Charles. It's actually one of the larger issues I have with the plot of the film. Erik can be impulsive, but it's all about the survival of mutant kind and Charles Xavier was a more important person to keep alive for mutant kind than Jean Grey. He (spoilers) tries to kill Mystique in DoFP to keep all mutants safe, which is *entirely* in character, so I don't see him risking Jean Grey doing more damage to other mutants after she eliminates one of the most important and helpful mutants of the entire population.
@@HQBacon totally agree.
@@HQBaconhonestly I think it’s only because of Charles himself that Erik didn’t try to destroy Jean. He know that Charles loved Jean and “died” trying to help her, so he wanted to try to finish what Charles started. It’s not compatible with his overall goals, but that goes to show the depth of his love for Charles.
the scene where Jean tells Logan to kill her before she harms someone else always gets me, Famke Janssen acted the HELL out of that, so good
Honest trailer said, "People hate mutants and love superheros as though there is a difference between superpowers and mutant powers". That is spot on.
I always thought the difference between the publics reaction to superheroes and mutants was based on their respective places in society. Heroes are often semi-sanctioned protectors that operate like a public service while mutants are integrated into daily life. People generally only see heroes doing their job while a mutant could be anywhere in society. Sorry for the length to anyone who reads this. I took a fat rip right before seeing this comment.
@TrickoTreatz precisely. Also because other superheroes either don't have powers or gain powers from external sources vs mutants who are born with it. Not that it's that big of a difference, objectively speaking, but in-universe mutants are hated for being born with their powers while mutates who choose to be heroes are praised.
The behind the scenes of this was insane. Multiple firings, budget cuts, scene deletions. It’s a miracle that we got Kelsey Grammar as Beast out of it.
The crunch time to get X3 made was so nuts.
Even after all that.
I will never forget the intro to Angel. That messed me up as a kid.
It's a fantastic beginning scene to set up Warren, only for Angel to immediately become an afterthought for the rest of the series.
Love this movie for this scene: Angel cutting his wings is a great analogy to what LGBTQI+ experiencie is. Hidding, self harm, shame from family and society. And... let's not even talk about "the cure".
I love the intro, even as a kid. I was young but it was definitely a scene to remember
i remember this as the first time i felt a genuine empathetic physical response to seeing a movie; i could feel this skin-crawling like bone grating rasping on the tips of my lower shoulder blades...Sound design does so much when done right and here it pulled you so far along into that scene...
shame on Fox for not doing more with his character development... it was such a strong introduction to a character
@@jairomurillo4645you have pride month and gay shit every other week, maybe stop being so soft
10:09 my favorite xmen meme
"Is it true!? They can cure us??" Asks the girl who kills people by touch.
"No, there's nothing to cure," replies the Goddess of Weather
“Nothing’s wrong with you.”
@@emosam07 I totally understand why Rogue would want to do it. It would be awful to never really be able to touch anyone, and to watch her boyfriend - even innocently - having ‘normal’ physical interactions with another woman.
I don’t care what anyone has to say about this movie that house scene alone where Jean kills Charles is my all time favorite scene in any superhero movie and for that matter the death of Jean as well
43:20 Cock shot.
Hank saying “My boy I’ve been fighting for mutant rights since before you had claws” is absolutely hilarious given that Logan is easily 100+ years older than him 😂😂😂😂😂
"Did he just call me, boy?🤨"
There were so many character deaths because this was intended to be the last movie with the full X-Men team. Many of the original cast's contracts were expiring after this movie, and they only planned to do standalone spinoff movies featuring the characters who were the most popular or had the most story to explore. That's why there's no X-Men 4, and the next film in the franchise is instead X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which of course is centered on Wolverine and his past as the title implies. They were also planning a solo film about Magneto when he was a young man, but that would eventually evolve (hehe) into X-Men: First Class.
I love how much Tara believes that Jean is still alive.
Probably because no one really dies in comic book films. Or doesn't stay dead for long.
They outright say Scott is dead a million times and she still goes “Scott can help her!”
Unpopular opinion: I always shipped Wolverine and Storm as a kid. Still do and this movie only solidified it. They have more chemistry than Logan and Jean. Basically because they had to grow closer since they became the leaders of the team in this movie.
Facts they made more sense in this series of movies. The last 2 finding comfort in each other
There are comic stories where they're a couple. It makes the scene with Mystique seducing him kinda pointless, since I've heard a rumor that it was only in X2 so they could photograph Hugh and Halle in bed for the magazines.
In a deleted scene in xmen days of future past it shows them kissing
Apparently it was said in the movie commentary that it was her failed usage of cerebro in the last film that broke down Charles’ psychic barriers in Jean
Yet the director (whose name we shall not say) and the movie itself specifically state it was the radiation from Magneto’s machine on Liberty Island that caused Jean’s powers to grow.
@@arc7375the movie itself? When did they say that?
@@packedentertainment2866X2, the beginning of the movie when the students are on a field trip to the museum.
Jean’s telepathy starts activating, and it interferes with the electronics. Scott says to her “ever since Liberty Island, you’ve been different.”
The Liberty Island incident was when Magneto used his machine to try and turn the people of New York into mutants. And during the scene in X1 when the machine is destroyed, we get a closeup of Jean reacting to being hit with the radiation, looking dizzy and gasping, when everyone else is fine.
@@arc7375 But they went to liberty island right after Jean used Cerebro to find them there. So it's all around the same time frame/event.
@@arc7375but Charles said that radiation has no effect on mutants. Honestly the Cerebro explanation makes more sense.
Tara using the term "Dark Phoenix" so casually while not knowing she is referencing one of the greatest comic book stories of all time. I love it!!!
The way Hugh holds Famke in the end is similar to how Hugh holds Kate Beckingsale in the end of Van Hellsing.
I just watched a reaction to that movie recently and I thought the same thing.
I always felt bad for him
Because most of the movies the girls he like always die
Also similar to the famous crisis on infinite earths pic that has been replicated many times in super hero media since
Balanced primarily against his groin
This movie definitely got bad reputation mainly because of the poorly handled Phoenix Saga and the director’s choices for scenes. At least it has the one line I still love quoting. “I’m the Juggernaut, b-!”
I think the main issue is that it tries to bring in the Phoenix saga, the Cure saga, AND a final confrontation with Magneto in one film. It also gets rid of both Cyclops, Mystique, Jean, and (sorta) Rogue. It tries to do too many things at once so it's all a bit shallow. But it has some really good scenes in it so it's not a bad movie. But it's overstuffed to the brink. You also have to mentally separate the comics from the movies because some of the changes can be pretty distracting otherwise.
It's also way too short. X2 was longer than Last Stand wasn't it? And this movie needed at least 2h 30 mins if not >2 hrs 45 mins to flesh out any of the story arcs it features.
It did the stories perfectly
Me too
Eh, the Juggernaut bit is pretty much the only bit I don't like. :P
"ughhh Id be like you'd be my one and only human friend" killed me 😂
I find it hilarious that Hank did in fact call Logan “Boy” and claimed he’s been doing things for mutants since before Logan had claws I find it funny bc Logan is close to 200 some years old 😂 which hints to why Logan said did he just call me boy
Yeah, Hank wouldn’t know from looks alone. Especially since they don’t even meet in first class
After rewatching these, I honestly get why people are mad that James Marsden gets wasted in these movies and I agree, especially since he probably gives his best performance in this movie and he’s barely in it.
Marsden was shooting "Superman Returns" near the end of X2 and full blown for this one.
@@georgekellon2471 which sucks cause he’s barely in that movie too.
Like the other guy said, James was filming other things that conflicted with the filming of this and X2. At least Cyclops wasn't done as dirty as Juggernaut was.
@@passionsquietrage yes, but given that he was filming something that wasn’t that good either. It makes it suck more, not less.
Here’s the thing. y’all can make as many excuses as you want that he was shooting Superman or whatever, but that movie also sucks, and he is also completely wasted in that movie so if anything it makes my point.
Rogue: “Is it true? Can they cure us?”
Storm: “No, they can’t cure us. Do you want to know why? Because there’s nothing to cure. Nothing’s wrong with you. Or any...”
Rogue: “Are you serious right now?! I LITERALLY KILL EVERYONE I TOUCH!, While you are recogized as a god by some people!"
Rogue: "We are not the same!"
"Not all of us can fit in so easily... You don't shed on the furniture"
I did not judge Rogue for accepting the cure
Would you say the same thing of an Autistic person?
Yeah..its funny how they try to pigeon hole the entirely of mutants and there powers into you are all ok..uh no, many mutants and there particular powers aren't positives for them or those around them.
Every one always think storm is in the wrong. What if we told gay people we could cure them. We cant being gay is just who they are and theres nothing wrong with being gay. Storm didnt want rouge getting the "cure" bc there was something wrong with her. Storm didnt care id she got the cure just her reasoning behind wanting it.
This movie is better than people give it credit. Yes, it has problems but none of the films were perfect. I loved Beast and we finally got to see Storm fly. Plus, the scene between Charles and Phoenix has Exorcist vibes.
True, there are great moments like those you mentioned and Bobby finally getting fully iced out. But there things that were awful as well, like everything about JJuggernaut and Multiple Man as a villain (which he never was).
I love you two doing commentary together, such great chemistry, it makes watching these even better!
Also,thank you, Tara, for fixing my brain so that I will always call him Mag-net-o after 40 years of calling him Mag-neet-O. 🤣😂
Storm's powers are tied to her emotions. When she is sad, if she doesn't control her feelings, the sky become cloudy. If Storm becomes angry, she could manifest a hurricane . -- Shout out to Kelsey Grammer (Beast), I loved his acting.
I forget that Logan has seen Professor X die twice.
Luckily he didn’t see him die in days of future past when the sentinels are about to do it before the timeline resets & later when Scarlett Witch kills him in his head in multiverse of madness which likely means that his mind either convinced him that he’s dead & stopped breathing or he’s just ina coma. But either way … he’s died way too many times 💀
That's the tragedy of Wolverine in the Fox Universe. He's the only one in the all of the X-Men movies (Logan as well) that remembers absolutely everything.
Hahaha "Blue Grinch" for beast was a good one.
The de-aging of Sir Patrick and Sir Ian really holds up even after almost 2 decades 👏🏻
@7:15 when mag-Neto says “ in here with us” is an exorcist quote.
The comics sometimes bring up that insurance companies have specific insurances for super/extra-terrestrial/mutant - related damages haha
Andrew not crying was the biggest sign to Tara that Professor X wasn't dead.
But he didn’t cry for Scott or Jean either
or just that he has seen it before, takes some of the shock and tears out of it
He cried for Jean!
I remember watching this in theaters and when Ben Foster broke out of the restraints I blurted out “impressive wingspan”. Didn’t realize I said it aloud until everyone in earshot bursted out laughing 😂
I mean, you're not wrong. That is indeed an impressive wingspan.
The acting in this film is next level. Despite some of the story choices in this film I’ve really appreciate the acting so much more now thanI ever have.
The love triangle between iceman, rogue, and kitty is one of the most unneeded plot lines in an X movie I’ve ever seen.
That true but it did lay the groundwork for Days of future past movie which would have come out of left field without this movie.
@@shootingreal5945 it wasn’t needed in days of future past either
@@JohnSmith-rm1po I Last Stand-by what I said. Lmao
@@JohnSmith-rm1po they could still do that story arc without having to vilify the characters. Because I feel like this unnecessarily makes people dislike Bobby and Kitty a little bit. Rogue is clearly his girlfriend, like they call each other so, but dude goes on an ice skating date with someone who clearly has a crush on him. We already know Rogue struggles with touching people, it’s a well laid plot point of the first two X-Men movies, that can be enough to motivate her to want the cure we don’t need a third-party.
@@JohnSmith-rm1po bro I just think the plot line sucks
49:17 - MIRRORING THE 'VAN HELSING' ENDING - The demise of the main bad guy, a cure, and the leading lady dying in the arms of the wolf-like lead, Hugh Jackman.
What’s crazy is I think only beast sees things from rogues perspective. And it’s only a little bit. Storm just refuses and is like there’s nothing wrong with you. But I’m like how can she ever have a child? Have a real relationship? Is no one noticing that some powers not only suck but hinder real life.
They both understood her situation but they were also both heavily against the cure. They believed that she would eventually be able to control her powers(which she does in the comics) and that she should learn to accept herself.
Exactly! Imagine not even being able to hug your parents, let alone have a fulfilling romantic relationship, or kids. Such a depressing way to live, especially for a teenager who’s eager to grow and experience new things in life.
That is True. I would do the same thing.
@@passionsquietrage but how long will it take? And who’s to say she ever will gain control
@@Kidapollo92 She did in the comics eventually so entirely possible. And who knows how long that will take.
Tara CALLED IT! TWICE NOW! First with Jean and now with Charles!
Rogue's choice to take the cure is absolutely understandable. A huge part of human condition is physical contact. No intimate contact, not being able to have kids of your own, would be a very depressing. They were good at first making it a choice to take the cure, but then they pushed it over the line when they decided to weaponize it. Sometimes, you gotta draw hard lines in the sand. And Tara kept saying "Take the cure and go to prison", they don't go to prison if they take the cure. The guy was saying that they turned Alcatraz, which WAS a prison, is now the place where they created the cure.
If inwas her in these movies i would too because she is crap
In the movies yes but then movies aren't the comics there for entertainment purposes Only
Minus the having kids thing, because no way, I agree. Not having physical contact can be depressing.
@@AlastorsShadowDemon she can touch Magento 🙄
@@Xl081x
You can only hug your grandpa’s friend so many times. No other touching is permitted between teens and old folks.
Isn’t there another end credit scene that shows Charles waking up in another body??
@57:15 they watch it
@@shocksix oh I must’ve missed it. I watched this at work so didn’t have my full attention the whole time
i can’t believe it was their 18th anniversary when this film was released
This iteration of Professor X is so powerful that, like Superman, he would tend to prevent stories from happening which means the first job in all three scripts is figuring out how to sideline him. Poisoned Cerebro in 1, captured by Stryker in 2, dead in 3.
Frustrating fact: they took the relationship that Logan had with Jubilee (in the cartoon and comics) and gave it to Rogue. I’ve always loved Jubilee’s character and her relationship with Logan. Hoping the next time around she gets an actual role and that is done right.
I forgot about that, but I was disappointed that she only popped up in a scene or two and was usually in the background except for the mall scene in X2.
Love seeing Tera became a Xmen girl ❤😂
Edit: can't wait for First Class and DOFP.
this along with the 2005 Fantastic Four have been unjustly vilified.
I think they're pretty good early Marvel movies. light, well made and just all around FUN.
F4 and Rise of the Silver Surfer are GOATed
FF is worse than any of the X-Men movies imho. Bad humor, and Reed is down-right unlikable. The sequel is slightly better. Slightly. Storm and Ben are OK, the highlights of the movie. Sue is done extremely dirty, as is Dr. Doom.
@Renoistic Ben and Johnny was the best bcuz of their chemistry
Early pre multi-movie universes that we're used to today
Crazy because jean plays the evil witch in the Hansel & Gretel movie amazing actress shifting emotional stages so quick x
I love all of the rejects. Virtual hugs to each and every one of you all.
It had potential but a few too many ideas stuffed in the movie messed it up. I liked it but it should of been a 2 parter since the Phoenix saga is a BIG STORY. Above average for me 6/10.
now seeing it again, this movies take on Phoenix may probably different from source material, but Jean Grey being dark, villainy was spot on.
47:40 - Tara: "Aww whoa, Jean.. she is Phoenix-ing harrrd right now!"
Haha!
Tara needs to watch X-Men '97.
Agreed
absolutely, i love their pairing and Tara's newly found xmen love!
PLEASE WATCH XMEN 97
It’s kind of cool how Shawn Ashmore played iceman in this to go on to play a Lamplighter in The Boys series and control fire 😂
I’ve come to learn that basically any reaction with Tara is going to be a banger.
Literally a banger reaction at 20:00. So much juice
Thanks!
18:12, Eric Dane, Grey’s Anatomy. Also, the villain in Bad Boys: Ride or Die which you’ll both reacted to, as well! Great call, Flash & Tara! 👏😁🫡
I’ll still never forgive them for how they disrespected Cyclops
That fact that Cyclopses role in X3 was shortened because James Marsden was also in the Brandon Routh Superman Returns, gets me too. Such a waste of his talents.
This channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites. Great reactors, great discussions, great time watching you guys. 😊
@ReelRejects Tara's reactions bring you so much into the movie, and seeing Andrew get emotional during this film and the previous one helps me access my emotions 😊❤
See this is textbook Charles though. There's choices he makes with the school that border on villiany at times.
It's so cool to see Tara get excited for X-Men!!! I'd definitely love to see her reactions to the animated series
1:06:27 And Cyclops plays a HUGE integral and emotion role in 'The Dark Phoenix' storyline from the comics and animated series.
It gets a lot of bad reviews but it was a decent entry into the franchise. Much better than that waste of a DARK PHOENIX movie.
Tara getting upset at Magneto for turning his back on Mystique after she's hit with the cure. Forgetting that he's STILL a villain. 😂😂
Still that was his #1 OP who free each other, he bangs her alllll the time for like 30 years
26:15 The Professor only really has Telepathic powers, super low levels of Telekinetic. They're getting a lot stronger and usable now in the comics after Resurrection Protocols
Freezing time seems like a telekinetic power. I suppose you could argue that only happens in certain people's mind but they appear to walk normal speed during it which definitely wouldn't be possible if he was only freezing time for one person.
I suppose he could be projecting everything onto everyone though. But still, that would appear to require some telekinesis as otherwise they wouldn't freeze.
Magneto tells Juggernaut no one gets inside and the first thing he does is throws Wolverine through a window 😅😂
Mystique: "If I escape, I promise to commit murder."
Tara: "Get it girl!" lol
Do have to give Tara credit for predicting the after credit scene. That was sharp.
Yeah, this movie is still toward the bottom of the franchise for me. The returning cast is great, my problems are all story related.
Yes, I knew of there was an after credit scene when released. I was on the superhero movie message boards in the early years, which is where most of us fans went to get the info. This was really at the beginnings of the after credit stinger, before the MCU had trained people.
Juggernauts powers not working makes sense for the movies but he isn’t a mutant he was charles xavier’s brother who was traveling thru a jungle wher he found a gem which possessed him with the power of cytorak making him unstoppable and durable
Can I just say, Tara you look so freaking cute in this outfit! I love the headband!
Never understood why people hated this one tbh. I loved it as a kid who knew nothing about Xmen and still loved it as an adult
Most of it comes from those of us who watched the '90s cartoon, which did the Phoenix Saga from the comics VERY well, and X-2 lightly teased something more reminiscent of it at the end, but this is what we got instead. So definitely biased, but I felt a bit cheated, and overall I really didn't like this one as much anyway. I have tried watching it again several times, and while I can't say I HATE it, I don't ENJOY it either.
I have been waiting a long time for this reaction!!! I can't wait for X: Origins!!
I'd kill for a Smallville reaction!!!!
The Phoenix is a cosmic level deity! She is second ONLY to The One Above All! She overseen Galactus’s birth, more powerful than Celestials, Living Tribunal, Eternity, etc. She is POWER 🐦🔥
There are a million cure darts lying all over the ground at the end, why didn't he use a couple of those instead of his blades to stop her if he loved her so much.
Shhhh, don't point out actual solutions!
10:23 this movie haves its up and downs but all of Ian Mckellen delivery are freaking great
X-Men the last stand has aged better over time in my opinion
Apparently Hugh Jackman and Famke Janssen didn’t like doing the kissing scenes because they are close friends in real life even before the movies
His now ex wife was best friends with Famke
His now ex wife was best friends with Famke Janssen
19:02 And at this moment Tara was surprised to see the main villian of the X-Men be a villian lol
I love the headband Tara! That plus the bangs is very Blair Waldorf from Gossip Girl if she wore pink 😂 Love these reactions!!
X2 is the best of the entire series.
The thing about the Phoenix that this movie got wrong is that, the Phoenix isn't some hidden power that Jean Discovered... It's actually a cosmic entity, with its own personality... And just like the FIRE 🔥 BIRD itself The Phoenixes powers all have to do with HEAT.. AND FIRE. HER POWERS OF TELEPATHY AND THE EXTREME HEAT is how she exploded Charles and Cyclops
I didn't know about the after credits scene until years later when X-Men Days of Future past came out great reaction by the way keep up the great work
Another great reaction guys!. Would totally want to see Andrew and Tara review Xmen:First Class or the new Xmen97 series!
I love the sprinkles headband! Tara, you're wearing so much color in the new videos. ❤ That's awesome. And I super understand why Rogue would want the cure.
What's funny.. Juggernaut is not a mutant. His power comes from magic. so the child's power wouldn't work on him
Angel was always my favorite character in both X-Men, and later X-Factor, comics. Especially when he became Archangel. I never really cared for how the films deviated so much from the comics and didn't bother to build important characters, but as far as the acting, the action, and the special effects they're great. Awesome reaction guys! ❤❤
The chess piece being the last shot probably inspired christopher Nolan in inceptions last shot
What's ONE thing X-Men 3 Gets RIGHT??
The juggernaut Btciiiihhhh!!!😅
nothing, it's an insult to the X Men comics
Everything! It’s a great movie!
BEAST. Fuck, Kelsey Grammer and the makeup team blew it out of the fucking water.
dark phoenix 🔥
1:07:51 I don't remember seeing that after credits scene till I bought this movie on DVD a few months after seeing this in theaters at a early midnight showing.
at 28:41 there's a deleted scene where Jean was able to sub atomically rearrange the plastic gun to become a small sun and it pulses scorching heat waves that made the entire group in burn and fear hahaha I hope they kept it in. Goes to show a small fraction of what the Phoenix can do. hehehe
If you think about it, Tara calling him Mag-Neto makes more sense because it’s magnet with an o added. Which is what his powers are and would sound exactly like Mag-Neto! 👏🏽
Its actually pronounced Faum-Kah Jen-sen. Famke Jensen. Shes been around since 007 Golden Eye! Shes been killing it ever since! I love her work and loved her in this franchise. The whole cast of the original X-men was just *chef's kiss*
No. It’s FUM-Kuh YEN-sen.
The only truly great thing to come out of this movie was the casting of Kelsey Grammer as Beast. He perfectly captured Hank McCoy’s charm and extreme intelligence along with his savagery in combat.
Its underrated and the alternate ending with this film was better and some of the extended fight scenes were an improvement but still didn't help the film. Also during the pre-production of this film Sigourney Weaver was attached to play The White Queen Emma Frost with the Hellfire Club wanting to control the power of the Dark Phoneix. I don't know if that would've helped the storyline for this third film. Also James Marsden's scenes reduced was due to him filming Superman Returns directed by Bryan Singer who left the project to film Superman in Australia.
While I love the Hellfire Club and Emma Frost the last thing this movie needed was MORE plot points.
This movie was fun in a Joel Schumacher Batman films kind of way lol
I didn't know that there was a post credit scene, 18 years of not knowing they put a fricking post credit scene in X-Men the last stand. That blew my mind and it makes total sense why he was back.
X2 is definitely my favorite of the OG X-Men
Yeah Chris was the one who brought in the newer X-Men like wolverine and banshee and a bunch of the guys.
The "cure" didn't work because you really cure genetics. It's more of a temporary suppressor. Rogue is my favorite character even though there's not much use of her powers except the second movie.
I love hearing Tara's unbiased take on this movie. I know this one gets a lot of hate, some of it deserved but there's a lot of really good stuff in this that doesn't get a lot of credit
I don't think Wolverine can break his back, his spine is adamantium 35:38
I love the combos of Tara and every Reject on the channel. Always hilarious and suspenseful. Fun!!!
20:00 IDK how many times I replay this because Tara's reaction and comment is so hilarious and relatable. Same girl, sameeee lmao
32:35 Well, that bruise on your right forearm says you don't learn lessons right away!