Ukraine Can't Win War Against Russia: Hungary's Orban
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
- Prime Minister Viktor Orban says Hungary is not part of the "mainstream" European Union approach to Ukraine as he explains the country's opposition to providing aid to Ukraine. He spoke with John Micklethwait at the Qatar Economic Forum in Doha on Tuesday.
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Turns out, the man was right
bruh😂😂😂
completely right... however, a negotiation now means that Ukraine loses 20% of its territory.
@@rafaeloliveira1048 better lose 20% of territory or all country will blown, in all cases if they havent found a solution ukraine will finish either by russia invading it or if nato sends troops there then it will become a warzone, zelensky is a comedian and never should engage in politics because he is not smart enough
Agreed, from the beginning of the conflict I was just outraged. How would any competent leader let the situation get so bad? Even if Russia "loses" the war, there's just no way Ukraine will get its territories back. How much more are they willing to lose before coming to their senses?
Do they think a NATO intervention wouldn't live their country devastated like Syria or Iraq?
@@gamystation
Totally wrong
German media calls Orban a rightwinger. If this guy is a rightwinger, I don't wanna know what our politicians are.
You clearly don’t have any knowledge anyways. This guy is an autocrat. Rightwing or leftwing doesn’t matter, both of these ideologies if taken to the extreme lead to dictatorship. This guy wants to be a dictator, he doesn’t care what ideology it will be, just like stalin didn’t care how their genocidal government is called, same with hitler.
They can call him whatever.. he is right. German elite left wingers
He is a right winger...what don't you understand?
Come live in Hungary then! Average salary is €800. This thief stole everything from this country and fucked it completely.
Maybe he's not a "rightwinger" but 100% he's are a douchebag and a russian puppet.
At least someone from Europe can see hard facts.
A shame he’s a racist.
He don't seem to have read European history. If he had he would have realised that he is wrong several statements and don't seem to understand what victory means for Ukraine and Russia respectively
Like Neville Chamberlain?
Putinist pundits say the same in Hungary, without backing it up with anything.
@@MacAttackCOD Cool story bro.
Tell us how the Hungarians (a UgroFinnic nation) could possibly distinguish between Russian and Ukrainian languages if even Slavs like Poles, Czechs or Serbs have no idea what is the difference???
"Russians were often respectful & had morality." You must live in a paralel reality.
For anyone wondering, by failure of diplomacy he meant the American-led coup in Ukraine in 2014.
Did America attack Ukraine twice?
not every nation whose citizens don't want closer relations with russia ends up in coup 'led by america' 🙂
@@avegromekсша устроили переворот в киеве в 2014 году, это всем известный факт.
@@avegromekукраинцы не могли хотеть этого так как больше всего среди украинцев русских. Почти у каждого украинца родственники и друзья в России. Ты хочешь сказать что они решили отказаться от них? 🤦♂️🤣
@@avegromekвыкинь свой телевизор, зомби.
To be fair, the intervention in Hungary in 1956 was by the USSR including Ukraine and not simply Russia
In fact, the troops sent to Budapest were Ukranian. But yes, it was the USSR as a state not Russia or Ukraine.
Very good point.!
To be entirely fair: the decision about it was made in Moscow and not in Kiev. USSR was a name given to the Russian Empire by Lenin after the Revolution. Neither Kiev (or Baku, or Tibilisi or Erevan or, or, or were involved in decision making. So to blame Ukrainians for the Soviet invasion is funny.
@@eremstemero8823 By bolshevik ideology, there was no Russia or Russian patriotism. In fact Russian(ism) was the most harrased people, logically as a Russian patriotism would pose a bigger threat because of size and having a historical right (Ukraine wasnt really a thing, so the national romanticism and culture did pose a threat) - in fact Soviets endorsed Ukranian "awekaning" in campaigns etc. Blaming the partaking people, the ideology, but not an ethnic group or "nation" because there were none.
Communism is globalist in their perspective "workers of the world unite" etc, need to stamp down national movments, any tought against the system. Moscow was the industrial, economic, cultural etc capital of the country with largest population. If Kiev would have been that city, it would have been placed there. Nontheless, Ukranian troops comming in ruthlessly, breaking all human rights, shooting kids and with any method putting down the revolution. Despite the Hungarophobia in Ukranian peoples (unlike among Russians or any other group, because of Bandera earlier and being the most chauvinistic group within the system), it was however not by their own volition but because of strategic reasons (Ukraine was closer among other things). However, neither Russia or the Ukraine are to blame for it. Not only because they only existed as states on paper, but the communist ideology and imperialism is. I just wanted to level out the playing field, because blaming Russia and Russians has taken root, when its entirely false.
in (why you wright by) bolshevik ideology was no anything like "Russism"!!
I knew Hungarians living in the Western Ukraine. In the late 90s and early 00s they were regularly attacked by Ukrainian nationalists, many were forced to denounce their heritage and language. Don't let the propaganda fool you, it's not GOOD vs EVIL.
Many left Ukraine. I was working with few hungarians , they hated Ukraine.
And you know that Ukrainian Hungarians asked Orban to help Ukraine's fight against Russian aggression because it is their home country under attack and it is their interest to accept Ukraine in the EU? And Orban refused because of his political intrests?
Transcarpathian Hungarians called on Orbán to support Ukraine on its way to European integration
The Hungarian Democratic Union of Ukraine posted the open letter in which the Hungarian leaders of Transcarpathia assure Prime Minister Viktor Orbán and Charles Michel, President of the European Council, that they support the decision to start negotiations on Ukraine's EU membership scheduled for December 14-15.
"Over the past year, Ukraine has made significant progress in implementing the European Commission's recommendations on ensuring the rights of national minorities. The new draft law adopted by the Ukrainian parliament significantly reflects the interests of national minorities and enjoys our full support," they wrote.
"We strongly call on the leaders of the EU member states to continue supporting Ukraine on the path of European integration. The move to ensure democracy and the rights of national minorities is an integral part of the Copenhagen membership criteria, and we believe that Ukraine deserves its efforts in this direction."
@@fewfcrgergvcev if it was in their interest they'd be asking Orban to simply split the notorious failed state between Romania, Hungary, Poland and Russia.
Surprised how well Orban speaks english.
He studied in Oxford with scholarship money from Open Society Foundation.
Why surprised?
He studied politology in Oxford.Orban is very educated
@@petergbrics7260 yes, thanks to Soros.
@@petergbrics7260 vey educated by his kremlin masters, sure. Don't qualify as an **actual** education though.
He is realistic!!! The west will never listen! Sad for Ukrain and Russia!
@@TheJollyRogerPirateUkrainians sold themselves to the West, rather than staying neutral next to a huge, culturally close neighbour. Russia protects itself from agressive neighbor that has been becoming more and more anti-Russian and ended up planning to get nuclear weapons
@@TheJollyRogerPirateactually it was NATO who created this issue, Russia just did what they said they would if NATO didn’t stick to the “agreement that was in place “
Ukraine and Russia start a war and it is the west who never listens. The world upside down.
Yes exactly the russian and ukrainian soldiers who get forced to fight each other are the real victims in this
"This war is the failure of diplomacy." Perfectly said!!
dipomacy failed the moment russia decided to cross troops over the border. They decided it
War is simply diplomacy by other means.
This war is a failure of the usa and it's libertarianism politics in EU brussels .(not liberalism but Libertarianism). The european union was probably ment to be a copy past of the usa after 9/11 ....and become a united states of europe .
The war could have been avoided. Selensky did not want to avoid it - and other countries (like Germany and France) did too little to press on Selensky.
BS
And coming back it seems he spoke truth
Absolutely. And it's truth today. I found this video on 03 March 2024 and thought he said it recently.
“This war is the failure of diplomacy” 👏🏻
No it was inevitable
no Biden tried a lot with Putin before the war but Putin didnt listen
@@ASSASIN7-sd5sr That's not true at all, Biden hasn't done anything to try and stop this war. If Biden wanted to prevent this war then he would've told Ukraine to either implement the Minsk Agreement or grant Eastern Ukraine independence from Ukraine. Besides the US back the coup which took place in 2014, after which the Russian population was actively discriminated against and harmed in many ways.
@@ASSASIN7-sd5srit was Biden who didn’t listen
Why would he even care about the country which is miles away from the US
Putin cares about Ukraine because Russia has a border with it
@@ASSASIN7-sd5sr u sure ? tell me why didnt Putin invade UA in 2021/2020/2019.... ? why he invaded when west were sending weapons to UA, and west also tried to push in UA into NATO ? why Putin want to end it in march/april 2022 in Istanbul, while UA didnt sign it ? conditions were just stay neutral and dont army yourself and u can have peace, insteat they still have war...ok keep fighting, GJ Ukraine u fcuked yourself and still have pepegas on your side...
One man with brain
Yeah, I Think Orban Sees The Writing On The Wall, With The Russia-Ukraine War.
@VashenastroeniE brain??🤣😂🤣😂
yeah one main with a brain, he got brain how he can steal all the money from this country to his friends and family. That's why hungary is the second poorest country in the EU. And probably the most corrupt.
I'm surprised that Orban didn't correct the interviewer, twice, when he said Hungary was invaded by Russia. Are we going to pretend now that the USSR didn't exist ?
Russian Empire, USSR or Russian Federation are the same shit as far foreigh policy is concerned.
@@novic63 dafuq
@@novic63 bro did you skip history in school?😂😂
Right... is this what you call when someone is willfully blind? Or ignorant? Or you think Ceaușescu was a great ruler ?
@@novic63 not really
What he didn't say: last time we allied with nazis against Russia didn't work well for us.
Yes, but Russians are Nazis now, so would should we do now?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
True that 🤣😂🤣
Now the Europe fights against new nazis, fascists, militarists, colonizers and imperialists - with Russian occupiers? Or I'm wrong?)))
@@SirJamieLannister wuite the opposite, russia is fighting a war against neonazism and you can see those swastikas on most of AZOV vehicles, lol
Notice how all the anti-Orbán people in the comments can do is insult your character. Which in turn of course reveals more about them than it does about you or me.
I can refute whatever you bring to the table with facts. You're absolutely wrong about that.
Good to hear a sensible voice from Europe
if your country was invaded by Putin and you or your families are being attacked and dying every day, would you say so ?
@@josephjacob3276yes
A corrupt voice
Yeah, I Think Orban Sees The Writing On The Wall, With The Russia-Ukraine War.
This guy knows his stuff. It seems the only politicians that speak sense are non western. I’m from the Uk aswell so no bias
Greetings from Hungary. You greatly overestimate Orbán's capabilities... 😂😂😂
@@bujdosogyula3429 I think he meant to say "I work for the Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg". Everyone in the UK knows how to spell "as well".
@@nealpobrien you greatly overestimate native english speakers english level
I lived in London for 10 years, so am very familiar with English people, nice try tho!
@@mootssss Can't say I'm convinced you're a native speaker either. "Native English speakers" don't write like you do. And how many English people agree with this? Not many.
Ukraine is losing but no one wants to admit it
Yup it is what happens when you have cowardly, craven, gutless, corrupt politicians ruling in the Western Govts and NATO. Oh and lets not forget Putin's stooges in Western MSM and Corporations either.
Russia had to withdraw from one region after the other, Russia is not even close to Kyiv
@@pouyanebrahimbabaie5811 One correction. It is not Ukraine that sends Russian soldiers to the graveyard. It is in fact NATO that sent Russia soldiers to the graveyard. If not for military aid and support from America and Eu, you Ukrainians would be singing the Russian anthem today and Putin would be in Kiev
@@saiganesh7502 but russia still wining btw , that's a fact
@@saiganesh7502yea Ukraine is worthless without my US taxpayer money. They better start negotiating.
Theres a man that knows what hes talking about.
He is correct. There is no victory for either side, only more death and destruction.
And they are ready for this. Are you?
Hence?……
If Russia takes over Ukraine, then Russia has won. Stay real pleace
So if Russia gets out of Ukraine ...problem solved.
@@peteradams5857 that will never happen
I remember back in 2015 millions of Syrian migrants went to Hungary and Orban rightfully said that Hungary can't host them but they're free to go elsewhere. The mainstream media immediately labelled him as a 'racist' & 'authoritarian'. Eventually the migrants went to Germany and Orban ensured that Hungary's borders remained secure. He's one of the few remaining leaders in Europe with some common sense.
what a bullshit. Orban has been building an authoritarian regime. we Hungarians know it perfectly. ignorant people from abroad should shut up and learn more about the topic before saying bullshit.
Victor Orban is just one filthy servant to the Internationally convicted war crimina Putin. What surprises me the most is the fact that Hungary was a victim of a brutal Soviet ocupation in the past and also punished twice from Soviets in 1920 and 1945 afterTrianon Treaty where they lost 67% or 2/3 of their land to the neighbouring countries Slovakia (Upper Hungary or Felvidék),Romania (Transilvania),Serbia,(Panonia),Ukraine,Croatia...and mister Orban is against Europe and civilised western countries supporting russian barbaric occupation of Ukraine. Shame on you Victor Orban.
Except that hungarian borders are not secure at all.. all the imigrants are coming in the eu via hungary. This guy is a joke. Total liar… dictator. Hungary is getting poorer…
Obviously, there are people with compassion and unselfishness. Orban is not one of those.
@@talkinghand4839 The Ukrainian military disproportionately recruits from the Transcarpathian Oblast compared to other oblasts in Ukraine. Using ethnic Hungarians, Rusyns, Romanians, and Slovaks as cannon fodder against Russian artillery shells.Ukraine has a population of 150,000 ethnic Hungarians. At one time, Ukraine’s ethnic Hungarian population lived in Hungarian territory, but Ukraine annexed this territory at the end of the First World War following the Treaty of Trianon.Ukraine has a fraught relationship with its Hungarian population. The government has restricted Hungarians from speaking their language and targeted Hungarian cultural institutions, while Ukrainian nationalists have committed arson attacks against the ethnic Hungarian population.
Now, there are fears that the Ukrainian government may be retaliating against these Hungarians, including with forced conscription and assignments at the front that feature high casualty rates.
Orban speaks great english...😮
yes, surprisingly, but huge nostalgia after great Hungary
@@gordanramsy4022 Nothing great about hungary ..at all never was...never will be
He is our Top G :D
His English is possibly better than yours. You didn't even capitalize "English".
@@customfantasyhotwheels
I agree. A dont know English. But i never said I speak better than him. I dont.
Since when was peace a controversial topic?
Since war makes large amounts of money for USA's weapon industry.
"Failure of diplomacy", period.
This war started in 2014, when Russia envaded Krim. Was that also a diplomatic failure?
@@Haukka790 it started in 2014 when Ukrainians in kiev started openly shouting: slaughter the Russians). After that Crimea and the region of Donbass (ethnically Russian) officially turned to Putin for protection. Crimea was lucky and, hope, will stay peaceful. Donbass is being cleared of murdered Ukrainians (including of Hungarian origin) still.
@@Haukka790 how is your green fence along our border, by the way 😂😂😂😂
As if Putin ever respected any deal. Give me a break. Russia simply loves annexing just because it can and everytime it can.
@@user-yf3me2sj2t Yulya, stop spreading bs. You russians always need excuses to justify your greed. Putin does not want Ukraine to exist. It is all about his ego.
Victor Orban is outstanding. He shows courage and political wisdom. No other state leader has so far described the political situation so aptly, so correct, so courageously and so openly.
Wisdom?! Don’t make me laugh
Are you Drunk? ))))
Orban is corrupt and playing a double role..yes he needs the money of the EU....he forgot his own history.. Hungary was invaded 1956 by Russia!!!!
Let me ask you, do you think it was wrong of NATO to train ukrainian soldiers before the war, and do you think it was wrong of those countries who sent light anti tank weapons to Ukraine when Russia was moving towards Kiev?
Because this is what Orban advocated, and the outcome of this would likely have been Russia controlling Kiev today.
@Sobkow07 take him home, the hungarian people will be thankful to you for a lifetime....😂🤣😂
I like Mr Orban, he's the only bloke in Europe that's talking any sense....
Oh and people might say it's not my business because my nation isn't in the EU anymore, well.....it is when my nation has coughed up just over 7 billion in aid to the Ukraine. ....🇬🇧
Budapest Memorandum seems like toilet paper.
It’s a shame he’s a racist.
7 billion + in aid to Ukraine... much of it military aid.... BUT WHY..? In Orbans words "Ukraine can't win a war against Russia" (Ho ho ho, not with Orban's support of the Putin regime). Hee hee hee, anyone for a self fulfilling prophesy?
And how is Brexit going? .... (... an uncomfortable silence follows). But come on!! You have that 350 million a week now. You can now send more aid to Ukraine.
To the tune of la Marseillaise..🎶📯 la la lol lol lol lol laaa le lol, la le lol lol laa le lol....😆😝
@@FenrirRobuBudapest Memorandum went down the shitter after the Bucharest summit.
Are county has coughed up 170 bill in to there war😂
Mr Orban is a matter of common sense .
Mr Orban is a matter of wannabe dictator.
no, he is ordinary idi ot
Francesco Nitti, Prime Minister of Italy,
September 1924:
"No country was perished more viciously in
Trianon than Hungary. But this country is
dwelled by spiritually strong people, who won't
be resigned to the demolition of their country.
Hungary's dismembering is so dishonourable
that no one takes responsibility for it.
Everybody acts like they don't know about it,
everybody is in coy silence. The reference to
the right of nations' self-determination is only
an untrue formula... they misused their victory
in the most vicious way... There's no French,
English or Italian who would accept the
conditions forced to Hungary for their own
nation..."
Herbert Henry Asquith, Prime Minister of the
United Kingdom for 8 years, 1925:
"This treaty is no work of statesmen, but the
result of severe and fatal deceptions."
Vladimir Iljic Lenin:
"The treaty was forced down their throat, but
this is a usurious treaty, the treaty of murderers
and butchers... unprecedented, predacious
treaty... this is no treaty, these are conditions
that scampsmen dictate with knives in their
hands to unprotected victims."
Lloyd George, Prime Minister of the U.K., in his
speech on the 7th of October, 1929:
"The whole documentation that we received
from our allies at the peace talk, was deceitfuland untrue. We came to a decision on false
principles"
Arthur Neville Chamberlain, Prime Minister of
the U.K.:
"The result of the Treaty of Trianon in Europe is
not peace, but the fear of another war."
No, Orban is a coward and a traitor. He´s scared of his russian overlords. Weak leader
Hungary has called for peace talks between Russia and Ukraine several times, mainly ignored in the media, even offered Budapest for the place to do so. Mainstream media mostly ignored the news. Turkey did the same thing several times, again everyone ignored it. Instead both countries are attacked and smeared over and over again for doing such a thing.
Okay
Are you willing to negotiate peace with Putin? A person who never keep his promise?
He said he will never change Constitution, he did
He said that he will never race the retirement age, he did
He said he had nothing to do with krimea, he did
He said there will be no war, he lied
He said there will not be a mobilization
, there was
He said there are no war crimes in Ukraine, there are many
I can keep going on and on and on about that
Yes, there were peace initiatives both from Hungary and Turkey.
Do you know in details what they proposed ??
NO.
This is the one of the uncertainties we encounter.
Russia didn't ignore above peace proposals saying openly that they were ready for negotiations. Kiev rejected any peace talks.
In this situation what kind of talks are possible ?
The only peace Russia accepts is when ukraine gives up some of their land which the Russians have no right to
so what? calling russia to go back to his borders did something? stupid ignorant...
So just go away from Ukraine and the war will stop. What negotiations do you need? About what? Ukraine giving its lands? No, buddy, get your payment from Moscow and to to bed.
He is right 👍
3:53 best part of the video😂😆
Indian move 😂
In UK media all you hear is 'Orban pro Putin, blocks this/blocks that" no explaination or reasoning of his arguments as we are hearing in this video. Pitiful!
If the conflict doesn't end soon, it will last many more years without real territory
gain on each side, the only question is how many people will die in this scenario!
Right you are! And what is worse, even if the fighting stops, it will take many years to rebuild the cities. Hardship and bitter tensions will remain for a long time...
So the solution is to just set the precedent that Russia can just take over smaller countries on the excuse that opposition will only cost lives? Might as well give up and just let Russia annex everything with that attitude. I'm glad that the Ukrainians have found the strength and courage to fight, and that the West hasn't abandoned them to their fate, unlike Hungary, which has consistently blocked EU support packages for Ukraine.
@@Tuppoo94 Orban loves Putin.
I see no good in this war Biden bunch keep saying as long as it takes as more death and friction. Gov
@Night Hawk More weapons = More dead Russians and a safer world for everybody.
No weapons = Russia at your door tomorrow.
The Kingdom of Hungary entered the Second World War and took part in it on the side of Nazi Germany until the very end of the war, eventually falling into the Soviet zone of occupation. The economic situation in the country was further complicated by the fact that Hungary, as an ally of Germany in World War II, was obliged to pay reparations to the USSR, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia for several years, sometimes reaching a quarter of the national product. The development of events in Hungary coincided with the Suez crisis - on October 29, Israel, and then NATO members Great Britain and France, attacked Egypt supported by the USSR in order to capture the Suez Canal, next to which they landed their troops.According to the German Minister of Defense F. J. Strauss: At first, the Americans give hope to the Hungarians, but when things get serious, they leave the Hungarian people to their fate. There could be no talk of military intervention by NATO. The suppression of the Hungarian popular uprising by the Red Army was not seen as an action affecting the interests of NATO
What kingdom of Hungary? You mean Austro-Hungary where Austria was the leader
To see the essence: the Hungarian "revolution" in 1956 was not a real revolution.
The demonstrators were ready to find a compromise with the new communist prime minister, Imre Nagy.
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This Inre Nagy was supported by Moscow, too. He could speak Russian as he spent long time in the USSR before 1944.
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So, It was not the Hungarian rebels who took over power in Hungary, but the Soviet troops, the Red Army, who carried out a coup on 4 November 1956.
Because Khrushchev did not like the new (legitimate) Hungarian government's policy of neutrality.
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The legitimate Hungarian government accepted the democratic rules of the game - and the Soviet Union didn't like it.
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The situation was similar in Czechoslovakia in 1968. There were not even any serious protests there. Only the Soviet leadership did not like the prospect of democratic development. Therefore, the Soviet leaders and the Soviet troops organized a military takeover (coup d'état) there.
@@FILOZOFUS87 In general, the number of troops introduced into Czechoslovakia was[31][32]:
USSR - 18 motorized rifle, tank and airborne divisions, 22 aviation and helicopter regiments, about 170,000 people;
Poland - 5 infantry divisions, up to 40,000 people;
GDR - motorized rifle and tank divisions, up to 15,000 people in total (according to publications in the press [1], it was decided to refuse to send GDR units to Czechoslovakia at the last moment, they played the role of a reserve on the border, and in Czechoslovakia there was an operational group of the NNA of the GDR from several dozen military personnel);
Hungary - 8th motorized rifle division, separate units, total 12,500 people;
Bulgaria - the 12th and 22nd Bulgarian motorized rifle regiments, with a total number of 2164 people. and one Bulgarian tank battalion, armed with 26 T-34 vehicles.
@@watchingvids9899 Yes, but Hungary was not an independent state from 1947 (the peace agreement let the USSR have its troops in Hungary and the Soviets made a coup in 1947 - against Ferenc Nagy) - and in 1956 the USSR made a coup in Hungary against Imre Nagy - and the Soviet troops did not left Hungary until 1991.
...
Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Romania, Albania, Czechoslovakia - these countries were not occupied this time.
Hungary and GDR had the most Soviet troops.
Poland had some Soviet troops too.
@@FILOZOFUS87 In accordance with the report of the head of the Political Directorate of the Voronezh Front, Lieutenant General S. Shatilov, in the Voronezh region, Hungarian soldiers (Shatilov calls them "Magyars") in 1942 became famous for their inhuman cruelty towards the civilian population and captured soldiers of the Red Army. The cruelty, atrocities and crimes of the Magyars were clarified after the liberation of Russian villages and villages by the Red Army. For example, according to the leadership of the Soviet troops, in the Chernyansky district of the Kursk region in 1943, the Hungarians burned 360 captured Russian soldiers and civilians alive. In the same region, on the Kharyevka farm, the German allies mutilated 4 Red Army soldiers with bayonets and buried them alive in the soil. In the Voronezh region (in Ostogozhsk), a woman from the local population became an eyewitness to the blatant cruelty committed against a captured Soviet fighter: the Magyars burned him at the stake, and then stabbed him to death with a bayonet.
He gets it ... Stand with him, Hungarians...
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Respect !!!!!
Orban is right to call for peace talks. It’s a complete stalemate. The longer this war goes on the worse it is for everybody.
They tried that from the start. Russia didn't budge, instead they used it to take even more territory and hold a sham referendum. How do you think peace talks will work with a country which uses every other reason or lie to invade Ukraine (which they wouldn't invade once they surrounded it)? It's complete nonsense to believe Putin or any other puppet of his dictatorship is going to budge.
There were talks for seize fire and peace talks, none stop especially in first months, Russia was still bombing Ukraine during "seize fire". After that everyone saw there is no point in trying to talk with Russia. Its words means nothing. The only way is to support defense in Ukraine.
Then Putin should withdraw for everyone's good.
@@quintrankid8045 Why would he? So NATO can set camp at his doorstep?
@@whitejack9032 Putin has already increased the length of Russia's border with NATO by 1,340 km, since Finland joined up because of the war, more than doubling the length. NATO is and was already at his doorstep. I'm afraid that argument doesn't hold water.
For some people, the truth is so inconvenient that they want to make it untrue. Can they?
He's a Russian puppet.
No, what you're talking about is suppression. This stage is too big and it's reach too wide for a mass scale propaganda scheme to work- especially on the population in the united states. The government can only suppress it can't hide what is actually happening around the world- the only way they'd have success is if they ALREADY had North Korea level information suppression and social isolation. Unfortunately for the united states they can't suppress or manipulate information enough to stop the information that is going to be the end of them.
Even harder when truth is in the middle. Russia can’t win the war militarily either with western backing for Ukraine. Economically Russia’s position is worsening, but it might take years before real peace is possible.
No, If someone like him will tell it.
People that preach the truth are often the biggest dumbfu**s on the planet. Gj Sarolta
Why can’t we have more leaders like him in Europe
Orban: cease fire!
Interviewer: but then military tycoons from US can't make another fortune ...
Currently Russia is the winner when it comes to making money from the war. They stand to gain if the war ends, or if the war continues at current rate. US and allies are losing money by sending (not always selling!) aid for free.
@@danielgrizzlus3950 Russian here. Let's elaborate: not Russia is winning, but Putin and his oligarchs. Russians are sick of it.
@@danielgrizzlus3950 and yeah US sending billions to one of the most corruptred governments. Clever.
Too bad, that in 1956 the SOVIET units came from the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and the last SOVIET soldier, who left Hungary in 1991 happened to be Ukrainian, he died recently in Subcarpathia, a region annexed by the Soviet Union in 1945, now part of Ukraine.
Ukranians are acrually historical occupants
So what is your point?---
Hungary was the first country to attack in WW2---It attacked Carpatho-Ukraine in March BEFORE Hitler and Stalin even attacked Poland.
The first RuZzian soldier to die was perhaps a Buryat!--so what?
And guess what?--If your RuZZia takes Ukraine, it might be Ukrainians who would be used as the first soldiers to attack Germany and Hungary!
@@t.on.yliar
ONLY IGNORAMUSES OF FACTS DO NOT KNOW THAT RUSSIANS NEVER FOUGHT A SINGLE WAR SINCE 1654. ALL OF RUSSIA'S WARS WERE FOUGHT BY UKRAINIANS UNTIL 1991. THIS IS WHY THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE ARE INCAPABLE OF FIGHTING A WAR AND ARE BEING DEFEATED BY UKRAINIANS. UKRAINIANS ARE FIGHTING ENTIRELY ALONE WITH ONLY HYPOCRITICAL TOKEN "help" from the TRAITOR WEST
Victor Orban is just one filthy servant to the Internationally convicted war crimina Putin. What surprises me the most is the fact that Hungary was a victim of a brutal Soviet ocupation in the past and also punished twice from Soviets in 1920 and 1945 afterTrianon Treaty where they lost 67% or 2/3 of their land to the neighbouring countries Slovakia (Upper Hungary or Felvidék),Romania (Transilvania),Serbia,(Panonia),Ukraine,Croatia...and mister Orban is against Europe and civilised western countries supporting russian barbaric occupation of Ukraine. Shame on you Victor Orban
Very good and sensible practical speech 👏👏
Pure commons sense he is telling us the true if nato can’t send they own military people how Ucraina 🇺🇦 by her self can wit this war with Russia 🇷🇺!?
500.000 thousand people dead 💀 for the interest of some people …to gain more power….on others
@@domenicoberardi2739 This just means they never intended to save Ukrainians. They only wanted to inflict damage upon Russia.
@@domenicoberardi2739 Well why don't you and your dad don't go and fight there for freedom, democracy etc? Why only people of Ukraine to lose their lives?
@@harderway8568It means WW3. But in a way, we are already in it.
Smart man in a crazy world.
VICTOR ORBAN IS A GREAT LEADER.
He is. Although he would be more credible if he did not own half of Hungary.
Nice to hear some sanity...
It's not sanity. It's corruption and treason.
At last a European who has got his thinking cap on 😮
😂
Well said sir 🇭🇺🇬🇧👍
Somehow, Orban is correct here. NATO should also become a free-trade area, when the remaining fully European states join the EU.
The most important question is when the US is going to push Poland to go to this war as Ukraine is running out of its main resource, people. Another one is which country is going to be the next after Poland made by the US to save the corrupted Ukrainian government and die for the US & UK interests.
You think the US has the ability to make Poland fight for Ukraine? How exactly?
Romania
They will not, it would be world war 3, nobody wants that, since 2 countries with atomic bombs would go against eachother. This is what no one understands, this is a proxy war for the US, nothing good will come out of this. Ukraine is smaller, weaker, without the aids, ukraine would've been overtaken in a month or so. This is a war, that Ukraine cannot win in the short or the long run, and most likely won't be able to take back the Donbas region.
Wtf
Bravo👏 Thank you for honest comment
Pour les occidentaux, lorsqu'on leur dit la vérité qui ne les plaît, ils rappellent l'histoire. Mais lorsqu'on leur rappelle les faits historiques qui les gênent, ils se réfèrent aux faits actuels. Triste.
Nevertheless, his analysis in completely wrong as he leaves out Putin's ideological component.
And the facts Russia states are always WRONG and the history Russia states is also WRONG. Just look at the day Russia celebrates as the end of WW2. Completely wrong to every other nation LMAO.
C'est quoi la verite? Que le gangster Poutine a declare la guerre a un peuple libre de ses choix.
C pas la vérité, il est la marionette de poutine. Simple as.
@@peterpeter4254the nazi Ukraine is creation of the west , just like the mujahedin in Afghanistan in 1980s. And both of them are freedom fighters as per west
Imagine Biden trying to have this conversation..... Never mind.
An impressive fellow who has a clear understanding of the situation, has come to his own conclusion, and logically and coherently makes that point. It must be refreshing to have a leader whose capable of critical thought and doesn't just act as a parrot for whatever happens to be the en vogue position at the time.
lol Hungary is failed democracy state, and russian hole
The same orban who got his education from George Soros? Is that the dude you think is a great leader?
Orban would give up his country if it got invaded 😂
@@toha1729 his country with border fences protects the eu. from illegal migrant invaders 😅
@@toha1729 Orban wouldn't kill his own civilians for their views, wouldn't ban minority languages, and would definitely try to negotiate before the invasion. It's not like one day Russian troops simply spawned inside Ukraine in Feb 2022. Kiev government was well aware of the danger and was warned for years. Countless advisors and politicians shouted that we're on a path towards war with Russia, and yet they were ignored.
Again this guy speaks common sense
I guess it's common sense when a neighbor comes over raping your wife and adopts your kids is a legal thing to do too eh? LOL.
Ah, those times when the interviewer doesn’t listen to the responses of the other person.
Of couse. It's a British twat who has no clue about Slavic countries and feels save on his little island, calling for more war.
That is because Orban doesn’t know what he is talking about.
@@jmatt98 Ukraine will never win a war against Russia. They will just get wrecked. This idea of Ukraine winning is absolute nonsense.
@@bhunji1850 just like Putin said Kyiv will fall in 3 days, right...
@@conceal070 Putin never said that. There is no source for this lie. This was just bs-propaganda by the US and their NATO stooges for the audience in the West, so gullible people would believe it's worth supporting the mighty Ukrainian army with their tax money. It's certain that Putin never expected to take Kiev with such a small force.
US ambassador Jack Matlock: “I consider the administration’s recommendation to take new members into NATO at this time misguided. If it should be approved by the United States Senate, it may well go down in history as the most profound strategic blunder made since the end of the Cold War. Far from improving the security of the United States, its Allies, and the nations that wish to enter the Alliance, it could well encourage a chain of events that could produce the most serious security threat to this nation since the Soviet Union collapsed.”
Lol, Hungary literally joined NATO, while Russia Allie’s with whomever they want including Cuba and Venezuela
Swap Sweden for Hungry
Naaaa.
@@jjreddick377 Russia itself is the 6th part of the world, in alliance with India and China, and this is a large part of the world's population.
To this nation ?
There needs to be peace talks now. This is what should have been happening from the very beginning. But a lot of people especially in the West are profiting and have interests in keeping this nonsense going.
Rumour has it that the Ukrainian leadership was not on a good footing with the Trump administration (Biden family etc.) That put them in a weak position..
Col Douglas McGregor has wise words about this
This kind of media can justify any crime.
talk to iraq and lybia its the same media who found weapons of mass
this kind of comments can justify any stupidity
You can define it as a "crime" when it is been doing from weak "suspicious" countries: Iraq, Lybia, Afghanistan, but thunk twice when you claim it for such society, culture, empire, like Russia is.
@@zlatnikoncinitnezore Remember - Russia never attacked anyone. EVER! xD
American medias . You don’t believe Americans ?
You cannot ignore the paradox that state narratives always glorify total war, relentless and uncompromising resistance against a foreign invader and at the same time heads of these states advocate cease fire and debate with an invader when it is not their own state on the defence.
Like palenstine?
@@TheDCbiz don’t know, wherever you find that applicable. I am making a plain observation of something that does not follow consistent logic or principle so it is either the principle is wrong (avoiding loss of human life is more important to defending the security and sovereignty of one’s state) or the principle is stretched and selective depending on who carries the message
@@Palaiologos which do you think is most likely
@@Palaiologos He's saying the war is impossible to win, i think you forgot that part on your logic.
Invader...was the USA as leader of this Compl...
Bravo Mr. Orban. A man of common sense.
He's allied with Russia, because he expects a favor if Ukraine ceases to exist.
Just like the great european hero Neville Chamberlain. Two common sense men.
It is happening to Ukraine what was happening to Hungary in the 1950s and he's still on Russia's side. That man is a traitor of Hungary.
@@igorbohm6370Francesco Nitti, Prime Minister of Italy,
September 1924:
"No country was perished more viciously in
Trianon than Hungary. But this country is
dwelled by spiritually strong people, who won't
be resigned to the demolition of their country.
Hungary's dismembering is so dishonourable
that no one takes responsibility for it.
Everybody acts like they don't know about it,
everybody is in coy silence. The reference to
the right of nations' self-determination is only
an untrue formula... they misused their victory
in the most vicious way... There's no French,
English or Italian who would accept the
conditions forced to Hungary for their own
nation..."
Herbert Henry Asquith, Prime Minister of the
United Kingdom for 8 years, 1925:
"This treaty is no work of statesmen, but the
result of severe and fatal deceptions."
Vladimir Iljic Lenin:
"The treaty was forced down their throat, but
this is a usurious treaty, the treaty of murderers
and butchers... unprecedented, predacious
treaty... this is no treaty, these are conditions
that scampsmen dictate with knives in their
hands to unprotected victims."
Lloyd George, Prime Minister of the U.K., in his
speech on the 7th of October, 1929:
"The whole documentation that we received
from our allies at the peace talk, was deceitfuland untrue. We came to a decision on false
principles"
Arthur Neville Chamberlain, Prime Minister of
the U.K.:
"The result of the Treaty of Trianon in Europe is
not peace, but the fear of another war."
@30yoboomer It's always astonishing when someone makes a comparison between Russia and nazi Germany, or Putin and hitler. Like your calling Russia nazis when it's well established fact and known through the whole world that the nazi Azov are fighting AGAINST Russia WITH Ukraine.
I used to mock the idea that the U.S. somehow helped nazi Germany in the 1930s by pumping money and investing through its major corporations, but now when I see it clearly, the USA supporting nazis, that doesn't become very unlikely. They lie to us about what is happening now, they sure aren't truthful about what happened a 100 years ago.
Bravo bravo bravo for Orban!!!Like he said"Politicians should save a lifes"!!!!But we have situation politicians making a wars and people loosing their lifes!!!!
You need mental support.
There's no winning in losing territory.
Russia goals not land.
think lost
@@Grant80 Russia's goal is liberating people from nazis and demilitarization of ukrainian army.
Russia's goal is not territories. Its goals are liberation of people as well as De-militarization & De-nazification of ukraine.
This's what you think, what you're missing is , sometimes you can lose something temporarily and find it again.
I am positive that Ukraines will kick out from their territory Rassians.
If you don't fall you can't stand.
Someone saying the truth from EU
finally some common sense
Took long enough
We (russians) are ready to live worse than now, but we will not let ourselves be defeated
@@user-zg1bf6mh6fyou are being overtaken from the inside. Insurgency is whittling you out and that old pervert is going to trial or a hole in the ground.
@@user-zg1bf6mh6f Says someone who is scared to enlist
And he’s absolutely right…
The wisest leader of any European country.
A cease fire would just mean that the current Russo-Ukrainian war would be renamed to 1st Russo-Ukrainian war. And Orban knows it very well. And he knows which side would benefit from such outcome. Little hint: It is not Ukrainian side.
Minsk was a ceasefire too in a way. and Ukraine armed themselves in the meantime. Another ceasefire greatly benefits Ukraine in the current situation.
So you saying do not stop war and keep on killing..., insane brainwashed opinion probably of a person that not feeling the effects of this war and do not care of lives of other ppl , just sad
"Orban knows it very well. And he knows which side would benefit from such outcome."
Everybody knows. That's the reason he does what he does. Imagine: a pickpocket steals a wallet and when the item is in his deep pocket he cries: ceasefire!!! ceasefire!!!!
Everybody knows what ceasefire would mean: permanent occupation of southern and eastern Ukraine and Ukrainians who would lost their homeland. And next war in nearest future with Ukraine getting smaller and smaller.
@@bulldog6545 The rearming of Ukraine took place based on the ideea that a ceasfire with Russia means delaying another invasion. How can you say Ukraine benefits from this?? How do you think a country can move on with a frozen conflict? Are you serious? Look at Moldova. Where is Moldova now having a frozen conflict and being forced to choose neutrality instead of arming herself?? How do you think that played, guys please come back with your feet on the ground.
Hungary became a puppet state of the Soviet Union, which led to an uprising in 1956 against them. Russia has invaded Ukraine, a neighbour of Hungary, and instead of supporting the defence, Orban wants to block arms to Ukraine, which will make them lose. Despite the sanctions placed on Hungary Orban is going to great lengths to sabotage the war effort in Russia's favour. He knows that a ceasefire without returning occupied territory back to Ukraine will only lead to more invasions of Ukraine by Russsia. So, his policies will only lead to more Hungarian Ukranian deaths in Ukraine rather than save their lives, which he is claiming to do.
He didn’t ask him what he wants from Eu as a exchange
who says he wants anything? He takes a standpoint, that' s it.
Bravo!! Bravo! Please be so strong as possible!!!
Well said President Orban
The US and NATO's strategy is to aid Ukraine as much and as long as possible in the hope that Putin either gives up due to the high cost of war or is deposed by a disgruntled populace. Orban correctly realizes that neither of those 2 scenarios is likely.
You do get that Russia is getting more and more desperate by the day and is absolutely losing this war, since their supplys are getting more and more deprived while Ukraine is getting more and more machinery to defend themselves?
As much as you dont find it likely that Putin would willingly surrender, how likely do you think are negotiations for peace and that Putin will just back off? They are absolutely non-existent. So the outcome of your and Orbans mindset is that Ukraine is completely conquered and all Ukrainian soldiers are dead.
Just ask Nazi-Putin to stop his war!!!
@Il Comunista Pazzo Just ask Nazi-Putin to stop his war!!!
umm....no. it keeps on long enough and the russian people won't have it. putins power will get internal threats and then he will quit or start ww3. his prized wagner group has already had enough of the crap.
NATO has no strategy
In addition to my comment as I have mentioned in some of my comments where I mentioned that as we don't know who is likely to win therefore there should be a seize fire, because ignoring that something bad will happen where people will end up aguing against each other saying that maybe we should have done this and that to stop the war than that to be the end result of the war.
Don't speak for all people every sane person know who will win even since the beginning
I dont understand what you are saying
1/5 of the Ukraine is occupied. The country is under naval blocked. 50% of the population left. The economy is on Western life support. They already lost this war.
But if they could win the war it would not be enough because they have to end the war which they cannot do (Russia would just keep shelling them. We should be pushing for peace like a mother. Orban is right an he is also a genius
@@Kathy-ku8dx "Russia would just keep shelling them" This suggests to me that negotiating would be fruitless.
i guess ukraine's failed summer offensive proved him right
What's failed? you mean Ukraine pushing Russia back every day?
War is not a fucking game and nothing has failed until there is fighters fighting.
@@karolismazys7287 6 months later didnt age well no?
I complete agree with president Orban!
Well said, failures of diplomacy
First of all a correction here ... as Hungary was not invaded by Russia along , than being part of USSR . Also, at the time Russia was communist and now is not . Why West assume is the same ??? .
This war not only will destroy Ukraine but also EU and Nato.
What kind of delusion do you live in? NATO is stronger and more unified now than it was a year ago. All Putin is doing is uniting the world. Russia is a clear aggressor, its very black and white.
So surender is solution ....
We was invaded buddy
Nobody wants to know anything
Orban is garbage,liar, dishonest,manipulator. Kick them out of NATO ,EU
Thank you....try to end the war instead of fuming it
Seems like this is the only politician left in this world with his brain intact and functioning properly😂
Fake
“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last” - Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill Killed 4 million Bengali people.
He sent his Millitary And Took their Food reserve And Burnt their Homes... During Ww2.
The Great Bengal Famine.
Winton Churchill, responsoble for the Bengal Famine which was reponsible for 3 millions deaths.
He's a Quisling, not an appeaser.
Nazi Germany aren't the Russians. And actually, they defeated the Nazi. Secondly, WW3 will not be fought like WW2.
Churchill is the best example of European arrogance..(kills millions of bengalies with no remorse)
2:12 Interrupts him for telling uncomfortable truths
truth? dude was literally lying, Ukraine literally liberated about half of lost territory already, only a clown could ever describe that as 'no results'
Brah, this dude hasn't told "the truth" in about 40 years.
The mainstream media used to make this guy song like a madman, from the extreme right.
He's not on the extreme right, right is for the country, this fucker and his gang just steals our money and embezzles eu funds.
When EU Nations heads meet Viktor Orbans knows he is the longest-serving leader around the EU table. He knows how things work.
Returned in 2022 Viktor Orban will remain an unpredictable thorn in the EU side for some time to come.
Viktor Orban like other right-wing politicians rising in popularity is a strong man who puts Hungary before EU posturing over Ukraine
i wonder if Hungary should really be in NATO. than again i have to say the same thing about Turkey
Hungary should be kicked out of EU and Nato and Turkey out of Nato. Orban and Erdogan and people supporting them make it impossible for them to be in the alliance, which is supposed to oppose what they represent.
Hungary SHOULD lead the NATO EU u people just going to kill everybody in the west bunch of war maniacs
Both should join BRICCS and BRICCS nations should form a military alliance to stop NATO aggression and theft in the middle east and Africa.
@@mikahamari6420 why? there are rules in the club you joined
if you dont like hungary using his rights then leave :))
And I am sorry for all those Hungarians, who want better and live in freedom. Of course I have nothing against them. But seeing how country, which should have learned from history, is flirting with the bully, makes me angry. Only way to save Ukrainian people is to make this war stop, and Russia listens only force. Hungary must choose its side, and it looks like it has done it. What a waste.
Will Victor Orban sing the same tune if it’s Hungary that’s being invaded by Russia, and 1/4 of Hungary is occupied by Russia? Will he still say “ceasefire” and “negotiate” in such a situation?
If Hungary is attacked the whole NATO world jumps to help it, they will never be in that position doctor smart-ass, learn some basic 2023 treaties before you talk this smack online
That is so stupid. Russia wouldn’t invade Hungary. Man people are so ignorant to how this actually started. I blame the media for not caring to explain it to you. So many people think Russia just woke up one day and decided to invade Ukraine and then would procede to take over Europe. Ha it is so silly
He's got Nato behind him
That would mean WW3, Hungary is a NATO country in opposition with Ukraine.
Someone asked to put on of my answer below in this, so here it is:
We don't confront them like that because our energy dependency, the (oppressed) Hungarian minority in Ukraine which can be target for retaliation, we don' let go weapons in the Hungarian-Ukrainian border from any source because they would go trough that territory and make it a target (but we let through weapons to other NATO countries even if they end up in Ukraine), also although I don't know how much Orbán is basing his decision on that, but as I said most of the Hungarians have no blind faith in the West and NATO, so the prevalent opinion is to leave us out of your power games. Especially tat we have no obligations mixing in this conflict as Ukraine is not a NATO country. It would be different if a member state would have been attacked, then all other would have bound to treat it as an attack on themselves. I mean NATO would collapse if it's doesn't keep article 5 from whatever reason, because all other member state would loose it's trust in the alliance.
@@royale7620 bruh when the first world war ended our country lands were gifted by france in the trianon treaty 2/3 of lands lost because a paper signed in france for more than 1000 years we had these lands and the cherry on top is that LATER ON WE GOT INVADED BY 5 COUNTRIES WITH HELP OF FRANCE WHO HELP US BACK THEN ? WE DIDNT GO BEGGING
Great priminister.
And He was correct
The only honest opinion of the war I've heard in a while.
yeah so honesty thast why russia took Ukraine in 3 days oh wait lol
It’s been a year with no significant Russian gains… dont fool yourself.
So basically his "peace talk" (and Chinese on pair) is about the idea that Ukraine is supposed to stop defending itself, just silently surrender, and give russian terrorists more space to calmly continue their offensive and provide better conditions to kill us. What is honest about his opinion? Why he is not asking his dear friend in kremlin to stop offensive? All these old greedy politicians who made their fortunes by stealing from people and manipulating the opinion of others with lies should be in jail.
@@angelcabeza6464 Can you tell me, why Russian only begun to target energy infrasturcture in October and not before?
@@karlvongazenberg8398 Was it because the Russians couldn't defeat Ukraine on the battlefield so they tried to freeze the Ukrainian people?
Victor Orban is a great leader. I liked his wise responses to the interviewer’s questions.
mr orban is mr putins running boy....he have being put there by putin
@heather725 Seriously? wise responses??😂🤣😂🤣 what was so wise in those responses?
okay so what does Hungary gain from blocking EU aid .... what do they want from the EU
It does seem like ukraine's negotiating power is only going to decrease or flatline. Russia being a large and authoritarian country is just in a better position to maintain a war of attrition compared to Ukraine who's funding is dependent on democracies.
Im from Ireland. He does make sense and this war is hurting even the common person. Happy Hungary is not a follower like so much of Europe.
I would say the Visegrad nations were some of the only countries in Europe not to fall for the EU's saber rattling. They also didn't flood their nations with economic migrants and illegals who have no love for Europe.
If he is right, then you should give up rest of Ireland to UK 😅
I Think Orban Sees The Writing On The Wall, With The Russia-Ukraine War.
At war, you may defeat or be defeated. You don't win. It's not a soccer game.
Said a guy from a country who benefited a lot from wars. Btw there is no such thing as soccer. Only football.
At war you only win if you undermine an entire continent's economy by selling them overpriced fuel and plenty of weapons, everyone else loses - Uncle Sam.
@mmmbrunommm3 if a whole continent's political leadership comprises little cowards and yes-men, Uncle Sam will take advantage. Right?
@crimson5664 this reminds me a young guy from Switzerland who told me "here, in Europe, we don't have and don't like American coffee, only Swiss coffee" (without knowing him that the coffee beans, roasted in Switzerland, are imported from Americas). We don't like American coffee but we do like American dollars. 😉
Wow soo deeep man. You're so intelligent
Long live Orban!!
So his suggestion is a policy of appeasement? How did that work out, historically?
You Europeans are going to go bankrupt with this nonsense. 😂
Orban is Chamberlin revisited.
Dumb take
Bollocks. You have no idea about Chamberlain. Or the second world war. Or this war, most likely.
Chamberlain was manipulated by the bureaucrats While the UK got on a war footing (almost) chewed up and spit out . as was thousands of soldiers from the colonies. Be very careful what a country might do to ensure its own survival. IF Germany sided with Russia then we are all lost these two are key to this geography . Don't laugh this has happened before! and it is the reason that the Nord stream pipelines were bombed
nazi germany was pushed by aggressive alliance of 31clients states, which openly talk about division of their state?
Different people have different definitions of win.
Winning for Ukraine is to take back their prewar territory, even Crimea. Winning for Russia is to secure the Donbass region and drain Ukraine to the point that no military threat from Ukraine.
Understand this is the war of attrition now, as long as Nato still funding Ukraine, the war would not end. Opposite to common sense that Russia is the attacker, they're actually the defender. They don't need to win, they don't need to take Kiev. They only need to fight - militarily and survive - economically to the point that Ukraine no longer receive meaningful support from the West.
Mr orban’s definition is the correct one, Ukraine is never beating Russia I don’t know why people are so delusional, if we keep sending help, weapons, and soldiers it will only get worse and more people will perish.
Why you are not in Ukraina 🤔
@@uriel8777 Stop inhaling glue before commenting on youtube. Such a simpleton comment
They should just swap the NATO status of Hungary to Ukraine. Hungary can join PUTIN THE TERRORIST and Ukaine to NATO.. problem solved.
what a real CHAD
Hungarians are lucky to have this man as their prime minister!
He actually said, neither sides will win a war.
Of course, that's what Putin toldhis lapdog to say now that Russia is in a military quagmire.
Russia already won! About 20% of ukraine so far voted in referendums and successfully bacame part of the Motherland.
@@Time_to_Wake_Up If you believe that you are totally deluded. These "referendums" were staged.
@@Time_to_Wake_Up You believe that the autocrat putin actually held a fair vote on this matter? Delusional...
By your standards Belgorod oblast is no longer a part of Russia since they actively fight against putin therefore they see themselves as a sovereign nation...
@@Time_to_Wake_Up You mean Putinland, People in Russia are slaves of Putin. Putin owns the lives of Sojgu, and Lavrov.Medvedev.Putin doesn't have friends he has servants and slaves.
Very good spoken
People hate him becouse he speak the truth
@gerrastavares6759 I can assure you, people hates him for other things than speaking the truth, as matter of fact he barely ever spoke the truth...
I agree with Mr .Orban !