@@ruslankbr5243 Why state the obvious? But the stupid thing is, that if Russia wanted to stop Ukraine from joining NATO because it would come to close to their borders, then they are failing. Finland and Sweden have since then applied for membership. Even if Sweden is not allowed, Finland will. Thus making the border way longer and Finland have a massive army to defend against the Russians. Nukes are not important. Why? If one goes off we will all die. Some will die fast and they will be the lucky ones, some will survive and die slowly because of radiation, disease, lack of food, lack of water, plunder and killings
@@smek22071975 I think Biden or Macron stated that they will not use nukes if Russia will use it in Ukraine. And you quite don’t understand Ukraine importance for Russia this is not Finland or Sweden. Ukraine consists of territories which were part of Russia and there are as many Russians as Ukrainians in those regions, using these territories as a base for NATO is absolutely does not suit Russian interests. You know that USA stated in 2008 that Ukraine WILL BE member of NATO, how do you think where should Russian naval Sevastopol base should be removed in case of Ukraine NATO membership? That is why Russia annexed Crimea.
This is the kind of guy I prefer to listen to for over an hour rather than four minutes. I know that’s not realistic on CNN, but even in a short period of time, the professor made a very sound case.
He made a case for what? He says it’s going on for years and will end in negotiated settlement but problem is Russia isn’t credible, Russia could go after Moldova, or Putin’s death if he loses?
I have studied History and economics for 40 years . I greatly appreciate your guest and his summary of what war is. It was short factual non-political and more important accurate. I don't comment on CNN much but you should have this guest back, he is worth the time to listen to.
Why such silence about Putin’s nuclear Arsenal updating, NATO evil plans and Armageddon? i live in the capital of the Federation and iam HONESLTY afraid i do not have a bunker, and iam afraid it can affect the planet iam shocked i think I’ll never feel the same until today after i saw the video ‘NATO and Russia nuclear war’ don’t say all of this is Not Real My heart is broken, but.... I WON’T DIE
@@luly2323 He said "very few wars end in total defeat...." See that? "Very few wars...." He never said that no wars end in total defeat! Work on your reading skills.
I suggest calling to memory and using brains those who have both. The US created and supported Al-Qaeda, “freedom fighters” who fought soviets in Afghanistan in 1980s. The result was September 11 attack when Al-Qaeda destroyed Twin Tower skyscrapers and 3000 Americans in them. Then the US government supported “freedom fighters” in Chechnya. The result was Boston Marathon bombing. Now the government supports Ukraine’s regime “fighting for freedom and democracy against “Russian aggression”. “Freedom fighters” again? There is nothing to do with democracy in Ukraine. That’s nazi terrorist regime. Generations of politicians in Washington DC come and go, but they still have not learned a simple lesson. Terrorists must not be supported regardless how profitable it cold look in regard to your struggle with a geopolitical opponent. Those who assumed to be useful idiots are not so stupid and sooner or later Ukrainian terrorists will come after Americans. A smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise one from mistakes of others. Only a fool is not able to learn from own mistakes. So sad!
Bring this man back please. Just give us 20 minutes of him talking about this war and his ideas about it because he really seems like he knows what hes talking about
It's crazy how well the Manufacture of Consent still holds true. Chomsky and Herman said it 4 decades ago. The gues started laying out how Russia can not surrender, but it takes too long to explain the implications of this so before that can sink in let's go to a commercial break!
@@lg8587 right, have you seen Michael Smerconish "interview" Roger Waters? i do not agree with Walters on everything, but that amount of condescending was unwatchable
Why? WHAT EVIDENCE do you have that THIS particular historian has ANY more predictive capabilities than ANY OTHER historian on the planet? There's nothing wrong with the guy, or even giving his informed best decision. But the way UNCRITICAL IDIOTS take his PREDICTION OF THE FUTURE about NONDETERMINSTIC EVENTS - what humans will choose to do - as "absolute gospel" destroys your and his credibility.
You must be joking here ! This man is an "Ass Hat" he knows nothing about the History of War. How did the western powers stop Imperial Japan in WW2 ? Not by negotiation that's for sure. You stop fanatics who refuse to surrender one way my friend.. Hiroshima. Nagasaki. Next, will have to be Moscow.
in 1993 Ukraine received safety guarantees from Russia if it stays neutral. Around 2008 Ukraine started their triumphant movement into NATO. Here's the result.
"We're still here ... We are not going anywhere." ~ Native Americans 😔 Native Americans: Our Native American population in our motherland, the Continent of America before the European Colonizers arrived, was around 15 millions, while the European population in their motherland, the Continent of Europe was around 25 millions. Today, Native American population is 15 million, while the European population, in the Continents of America + Europe, is a staggering 'TWO BILLIONS'! A shocking sad truth. 😔 Prof Goemans: It's about time to decolonize the Colonized lands, and return it to rightful owners Native American people. Notorious global cardinal crimes the West has committed, and benefited a great deals, such as Slavery & Colonialism had long been over, why on earth is notorious Colonization still lingering on? 😔 Native Americans: We're still here. We are not going anywhere. 😔
@@doubtingthomas9612 Your post is NONSENSE. Those deaths of natives Americans were 99% from disease. LOTS of Europeans died from disease transmitted by native Americans to Europeans and visa versa. Do you blame Asians for way more transmitted disease deaths? We already know from ancient that second waves of new native Americans who came to Americas 12,000 years ago decimated populations that came 18,000 years ago
Well he does, but I think he had to say some things in order to get on CNN, which tend to obscure the situation. First of all, while NATO cannot trust Russia, it is clear Russia cannot trust NATO either. It is obvious that the revolution or coup in 2014, changed NATO and Russia's thinking. And while excuses can be made, pretending that the overthrow made no difference, they are ridiculous. Agreements were broken on both sides. But most importantly, Russia fully expected Ukraine to vote pro-Russian. That was why the USSR put Crimea with Ukraine in 1954. To make it more Russian. It was essentially Soviet gerrymandering. Disavowing the large, and very probably majority Russian and pro-Russian people in the claimed territory of Ukraine is nonsense. The idea that Russia is trying to conquer Ukraine is risible; so is the idea that Putin will abandon over 10 million people that are Russian citizens and consider themselves Russian, with no desire to be at war with Russia at a minimum. There is at least one area (Crimea) where these people make up a sizeable majority. The real miscalculation in the war is with NATO. The politicians really thought that Russia was weak and that they could bully Russia into letting go of Ukraine entirely. This was a way of NATO using their vastly superior military to impose on Russia, without a direct war that might trigger a global or nuclear war. As it turns out, a combination of the inefficiency of a proxy war, and the unexpected strength of Russia's relatively low-tech army, has surprised NATO. NATO also somehow miscalculated the strategic and commercial importance of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine to Russia, and failed to appreciate how much the Russian people would support Putin in retrieving it, once it stopped respecting democracy. Russia's miscalculation was the strength of Ukrainian nationalism and the feeling of ownership Ukraine has for the historically Russian territories. They feel that these areas were "given" to Ukraine as a nation and they have every right to kick the Russians out. However, he is correct. The only solution now is a negotiated settlement, and that has to start at a minimum with Crimea conceded to Russia. However, I fear that the USA and NATO need Russian war reparations in order to pay for the war, preferably paid in oil. I don't think there is any way NATO and the USA, can afford to stop the fighting, concede any territory to Russia, and still have the money to rebuild Ukraine and avoid a financial collapse. NATO has put itself in a position that they can't afford anything other than an unconditional surrender by the Russians, and that, as Goemans correctly IMO points out, is historically very unlikely.
Why the interview ended so quickly? This guy is the man to make a whole segment with. Very knowledgeable. Someone i would love to sit and talk about this war issue.
Yes, he did not come to the scenario where the citizens come to the conclusion that they are betrayed by NATO, EU, UK, Kolomoisky and Zelenski. That Zelensky promised to make an end to coruption and the troubles in the Donbas, and did neither. That the Minsk 2 accords were much better than this war. That the two "revolutions", the "Orange" one and the "Dignity" one, - sponsord by CIA and US oligarchs, - were done by bad loosers in Presidential elections. That they are much better of by letting tthe pro-Russion parts become independent and stay neutral.
This man either knows nothing at all or he is paid to propagandize and lie to you. You know that, right? He could not have been more wrong. I don’t think he’s ignorant; just a liar.
How do you know that he knows what`s happening? Please give arguments. What certain part of the interview gave you this certainty? I`m very interested. All folks around here seem interested and give him credits for being phenomenal...only war experts around here, or maybe they like BS? Most probably the latter.
he is an expert...: )...reason he was interviewed... this is a different angle that is most certainly more accurate and precise due to his academic knowledge
@@tubebreguet Academics in this case is based on history that is knowledge he acquired through a degree and years of research to develop an expertise gaining the knowledge...... this is a known fact and very distinct Aaa Bbb... just differentiate and learn what I am telling you... the reason he drew the possible outcomes......same for GeorgwV.....it is not about arguments or proof ...this is no different from the financial institutions they have a risk asset department they use math to predict an outcome on finances to make the money..... in this case... to have the ability to give the outcomes based on knowledge .. ...like in Linear algebra and graphs....you take progression of numbers to predict the possible outcome to a certain degree of probability.... in this case based on the knowledge he acquire though his degree, he outlines possible scenarios ... this is a common practice in most professions that rehire a certain level of expertise.... and that knowledge....read the rise and the fall of powers....the book correlates thru the last 200 years+ what took empires to fall down based on common patterns and their policies, spending, systems...etc...... This professor is the best feedback there is so far in the media non biased and based on the facts.....no different from historian...in this case knowledge = based on past history, he draws possible outcome .....I hope this helps you and GeorgeV
However, the professor failed to acknowledge the ageing European continent. The projected age of Ukraine in 2025 is 42.8 years. An ageing population is detrimental to war.
@@teenahweenah2608 The only end to war is the end of aggression...Russia is the aggressor state here. Age has no bearing on it....only the will to survive. Ukraine isn't interested in you bleeding hearts, that want to try and force your opinions on them, they are interested in a lasting peace only...for them and all around them for them to survive. For that to happen, then Russia must be broken up into smaller manageable independent states, rather than left as the Great Russian empire, the soviet Union or the Russian federation. The name changed regularly in History, to counter the historical memories, but the actions remained the same through each period.....mass destruction, war and complete obedience to the master race. Why are they like this, simply because they are built on the slav`s..... the slave people who have a burning desire to turn the table on the rest of the world. This is turning into a war to protect Ukraine and will grow to include the EU and or NATO as a means to protect the future for what you claim....an end to war. Heroyam Slava Ukraini!
In the past, these evil dictators didn’t have Life threatening weapons on standby, by the thousands. This guy could end civilization, or so they say. Really hope I’m wrong tho
@@isaacgloria9963 So, you are not among those invited to the underground bunkers, are you? Fifteen years and everything will be normal on the surface: clean air and water, normal atmosphere....and no other humans or dictators. AI robots will ensure all pockets of enemy resistance are eliminated, just like in the prophecies.
@@jeffsuter344 How so? The headline reads "Historian predicts how Russia's war in Ukraine might end?" He never told us that. Did I miss something? He told us several things which would never be acceptable to each side; all of which we knew, so what is his prediction? Enlighten me.
@@mwfmtnman My, my, my.... aren't we the bitter, hate filled little person all chock full of assumptions and insecurities? My you don't be sticking your toes into any swimming pools there Sunshine, lest they become vats of battery acid.
The problem was that twenty years was not enough for that stone age society, they didn't even have a plan to turn the natives into civilized people, so what could the result be? You still forgot to tell how much money was put into the riser. Traitor Trump.
@@hotsAUc33 You are lying. The Afghans managed their country by themselves even with the presence of allied troops, the reconstruction teams, for example, let the mayors of the villages themselves decide what they wanted to do with their village, what they needed and how to do it. The US presence was there only so that terrorists from the Taliban would not forcefully introduce their crazy customs under the Kalashnikov and people could live peacefully.
Very interesting, thanks CNN! ❤But please have a longer Interview with Prof Goemans (4 minutes is a bit short for such an important question). Praying for the people in Ukraine 🇺🇦
"But please have a longer Interview with Prof Goemans (4 minutes is a bit short for such an important question)" Did you get bumped on the head? 4 minutes is long enough considering the war started only a year ago. Also idk if its just me but it feels like people like you only support Ukraine because its trending (at the moment thanks to Biden). Let me mind you Ukrainian people are actually suffering, and it's not like the dead civilians can respawn after they die.
@@backup_almeknassi9824 Palestine is a another whole kettle of fish that is decades old. Thanks to the British after withdrawing from the area left a bloody mess. Also there is a religious clash which always heightens any conflict.
@@michaela4024 Just because how long its been going on doesn't mean it doesn't deserve attention. The commenter probably doesn't care about Ukraine anyway. Or any war. Just a measly reaction ngl.
Chicago song lyrics spring to mind: "As I was walking down the street one day A man came up to me and asked me What the time was that was on my watch, yeah And I said Does anybody really know what time it is (Care) Does anybody really care (About time) If so I can't imagine why (Oh no, no) We've all got time enough to cry And I was walking down the street one day A pretty lady looked at me and Said her diamond watch had stopped cold dead And I said Does anybody really know what time it is (Care) Does anybody really care (About time) If so I can't imagine why (Oh no, no) We've all got time enough to cry And I was walking down the street one day (People runnin' everywhere) Being pushed and shoved (don't know where to go) By people trying to beat the clock (I don't know where I am) Oh no, so I just don't know (I can't see past the next step) I don't know, I don't know-ow And I said Yes I said (I don't have time to. I don't have time to look around) (I just run around everywhere) (I don't) Does anybody really know what time it is (Care) Does anybody really care (About time) If so I can't imagine why (Oh no, no) We've all got time enough to die Everybody's worryin' (I don't care) I don't care (About time) About time (Oh no, no) I don't care"
@@NewBeginnings413 maybe we shouldn't give up nuclear weapons in 1994 to don't make troubles for any other countries. I hope you aren't suffering so much after this great deal with pr. Clinton and russia.
@@minoramare5829 it was the Russians that made Ukraine give back “soviet nukes” to Russia when the soviet union collapsed and Ukraine claimed independence. Don't try to rewrite history.
@@minoramare5829 if you believe you would stand a chance without the west (training, military equipment, intelligence, money....) then stop begging and protect yourself alone. Write your president if you are that ignorant.
@@kylint7683 the most important thing, which he of course is not able to say is that this war was a long-term american deep government project. First step was to make ukrainians hate russians, raise new generation, who will be grown up in hate to russians, set pro-western government in Ukraine. Next step is to make instigate Putin to start war invasion through agents (treasoners, who still sit in russian government and sabotage to make sure Russia won't win ) and making threats of placing NATOs military bases in Ukraine, the main goal is redistribution of ecomonical sphere of influence , making money on killing people in Russia & Ukraine, the more and the longer the war will go on, the more benefits America will get
The professor demonstrated that he can only see this conflict from a western/N.A.T.O. perspective. No acknowledgment of the ethnic aspect of the "civil conflict" rife within Ukraine between 2014-2022.
Really? As a Dutchman, I am glad that he is teaching in the USA. He really thinks that Putler has the possibility to liberate Moldova? How!? This professor discredited himself as far as I am concerned. Besides this, he didn't say anything new or interesting.
@@dougveganparadisebuilder5808 Did he say Putin has the ability to “liberate” Moldova? No, he said that Putin may _try_ to invade Moldova as a way to sell the war to Russians at home as a victory (and therefore “justify” the tremendous loss of life). If the professor is correct that Putin faces death if Russia loses, it’s rational and makes perfect sense that he’d consider all options to allow him to claim “victory”.
This is not a war, this is called special military operation AKA Russian Aggression. An example of war is two or more countries fighting each other by bringing their army into each other's land territory. Ukraine is not taking its army to Moscow or invade Moscow. WW II was a war because Germany brought their Army to other territories and fight England, France and others then US brought their Army to Germany and Japan, and Japan to Pearl Harbor. That's why it was called a "war". I called this a Land Grabbing through military force by invasion. Ukraine is simply defending a territory and is not declaring war against Russia. A boxing match is like a war because two opponents agreed on a fight. A burglary or rape is like an invasion. Consensual f*ucking is sex. Again, this is not a war.
"...war provides information..." Such a straightforward statement (amongst others) from him. Realistic or deeply embedded regional security and sovereignty concerns appear to always have been a legitimate enough reason to go to war, sooner or later.
It's a fascinating thought, believing that Putin was terrified of Ukraine suddenly invading Russia. And worse, perhaps NATO nations like Canada sending their armed forces to join in the NATO support for that unprovoked attack. It's clear why Putin had such enormous regional security and sovereignty concerns faced with a threat to Russia like that. Same as in Georgia and Chechnya previously, apparently.
@@AirborneMOC031 The idea that Ukraine would invade Russia is preposterous. No, this is a war of choice driven by greed, misplaced pride and nostalgia for faded glory.
@@jasonlatour3403 it was engraved in the Ukrainian constitution that they would retake Crimean peninsula. So seeing Ukraine being armed and trained by NATO Putin made a decision to intervene before Ukraine gets stronger to attempt retaking the Crimea.
@@jasonlatour3403 You might want to try reading what I wrote again, before whining about what I wrote. I essentially posted what you're now repeating: the idea that Putin actually feared invasion from Ukraine with NATO nations like Canada sending their troops to fight a land war across Russia is indeed ridiculous. But... thanks for coming out.
Well, not wishing to support nor oppose the viewpoints expressed under this thread, all I can suggest is that most people love a good old scrap (often to the death or the bitter end), especially in so far as it pertains to ideas or belief regarding religion, race, territory, perceived identity, perceived justice or just plain old fear of missing out on something or somebody. Not a lot different to what we see on a day to day basis within so-called "civilized" societies really.
Don't you love it when an interviewer interrupts the speaker just as he gets to the point where he is about to state how he thinks the war will end? So damn frustrating.
Where was BBC & other News outlets when Western Ukraine was bombing Eastern Ukraine citizens for 8 years since the CIA COUP in 2014? The pictures then of the Donbas area and other areas of Eastern Ukraine between 2014 & 2022 are little different from these from Western Ukraine bombing their own Russian Speaking citizens. Western Ukraine has lost their right to govern Eastern Ukraine. Seek Peace. Grant Independent Country Status to Eastern Ukraine States protected by Russia until they are fully established countries.
There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know. Donald Rumsfeld
Why do announcers always ask stupid questions and prevent us from hearing those people who actually have something to say (i.e. the interviewed experts).
Most announcers are either pretty faces, smart mouths, or a combination of the two. They aren't the smartest people out there and most of the time they do as they are told, which is "Get on with it. Next."
that scenario lacks a proper picture of the way things are developing in the international community. this war will end in a disaster for Russia, it simply can't end up differently. not because I want it to, but because the consequences of it not happening are nothing anyone, or at least most, aren't gonna deal with.
@@dalecrocker3213 too simple. the fragmentation is spread differently since we have the internet and a world economy that benefits from using it to oppress any attempt to fix the issues it causes. no east/west, north/south. that was 30 years ago.
POOtin Never Back Down? POOtin Never Keep Treaties? Putin has nothing to lose? What about the F*kg -- Russian PEASANTS??? What about people of Surrounding Countries POOtin Claims will Swallow??? My god, Russia STILL living in age of Barbarianism -- where those who KILL the most win!!? Is there Nothing the Civilized FREE World can do to stop such atrocities?
@@janalucke9739 There is a rapidly emerging divide between American, dollar-dominated economies and the increasing BRICS community, however. If the new BRICS gold-based currency gets into full swing and challenges the petrodollar, and even the dollar itself, Western hegemony could be ended. It will eventually of course, but it could be sooner rather than later - especially if the Ukraine adventure misfires, as it already is in many respects.
We are witnessing the modern and technological version of David and Goliath, because no one expected Ukraine to not only stand up to a giant...... but push the giant back and make it rethink its attack!
@Lawn Chair ... you mean the crisis of Zelensky murdering people who speak Russian ... right? ... the 14,400 lives taken by Zelensky are a fable? ... no one came to their aid besides Russia? ... we demand our people are protected far and near and are willing to do whatever it takes to protect each and every one ... but no one else should be allowed to by the hall monitors? ... get a grip people ... rules for thee and not for me policy ....
I don’t see why the Russians can’t suffer a defeat in Ukraine. The Ukrainians are not going to allow the Russians to stick around, just like the Afghan people didn’t allow the Russians to stick around in Afghanistan. Even if the Ukrainian army doesn’t completely annihilate the Russians in Ukraine and the Russians will just have to retreat at some point, there will only be peace when the Russians are gone out of Ukraine.
@Idkbruhbruh that’s a key thing that Russian propagandist fascists such as yourself are selling. The whole world knows it’s nonsense. Try a Russian channel. People in the free world don’t buy this nonsense.
no any analogies with Afghanistan. Most of Eastern Ukrainains speak Russian better than Ukrainian language. Many of them prefer live peacefully under any Ukrainain or Russian authority, other part prefer Russia. For example, Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk, no any guerillas after 2014.
@@Sharky1101 language and mentality, and it's in conditions of Ukraine's pressure on Russian-speaking people (a ban on moviess and songs in Russian, a ban on educations in Russian, etc., and this began before 2022).
@@solderdesolder it’s their country. If they want to ban Russian then that’s fine. They have elected leaders who carry out the will of the people. If my country in Europe decides to ban Russian you’re going to invade too? C’mon man get real.
At 1:47 look at that guy with the wrong camo. Thats the professional forces we funded billions of dollars to and they cant even get snow camo for everyone. What? Are the Ukrainians trying to mimic the Soviets during the winter war now?
Cold war already on. The war will never end. China is looking n learning for a bigger war. The war will have more supporters. North Korea if they start who can stop them. With china as the big brother will also get involved. China is the instrument for creating a world war.....
I suggest calling to memory and using brains those who have both. The US created and supported Al-Qaeda, “freedom fighters” who fought soviets in Afghanistan in 1980s. The result was September 11 attack when Al-Qaeda destroyed Twin Tower skyscrapers and 3000 Americans in them. Then the US government supported “freedom fighters” in Chechnya. The result was Boston Marathon bombing. Now the government supports Ukraine’s regime “fighting for freedom and democracy against “Russian aggression”. “Freedom fighters” again? There is nothing to do with democracy in Ukraine. That’s nazi terrorist regime. Generations of politicians in Washington DC come and go, but they still have not learned a simple lesson. Terrorists must not be supported regardless how profitable it cold look in regard to your struggle with a geopolitical opponent. Those who assumed to be useful idiots are not so stupid and sooner or later Ukrainian terrorists will come after Americans. A smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise one from mistakes of others. Only a fool is not able to learn from own mistakes. So sad!
I just brought up historic facts making my analysis. Can you tell me what my lie is? Otherwise your accusations are mere words and primitive propaganda.
There are a lot of scary scenarios that could happen here. One is of course inadvertently escalating to nuclear war which would doom human civilization. But equally likely is a war that doesn’t end. Just an endless ceasefire like North and South Korea.
I suggest calling to memory and using brains those who have both. The US created and supported Al-Qaeda, “freedom fighters” who fought soviets in Afghanistan in 1980s. The result was September 11 attack when Al-Qaeda destroyed Twin Tower skyscrapers and 3000 Americans in them. Then the US government supported “freedom fighters” in Chechnya. The result was Boston Marathon bombing. Now the government supports Ukraine’s regime “fighting for freedom and democracy against “Russian aggression”. “Freedom fighters” again? There is nothing to do with democracy in Ukraine. That’s nazi terrorist regime. Generations of politicians in Washington DC come and go, but they still have not learned a simple lesson. Terrorists must not be supported regardless how profitable it cold look in regard to your struggle with a geopolitical opponent. Those who assumed to be useful idiots are not so stupid and sooner or later Ukrainian terrorists will come after Americans. A smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise one from mistakes of others. Only a fool is not able to learn from own mistakes. So sad!
@@alexhumble7653 The mistakes of the US do not make the Russians the good guys. So firstly the claim that Ukraine is a Nazi regime is asinine baseless Russian propaganda. Not only do they have a Jewish president, the Russian speaking population has more rights in Ukraine than they would in Russia. Second the Ukrainians are fighting to defend their homeland. Even if you don’t like them or want them to win, you can understand that their motivation is better than Putin’s geopolitical interests. You can not pretend to be “anti imperialism” if you are pro Russian imperialism.
@@alexhumble7653 I agree it seems America has once again found itself on the wrong side of history alot of people don't realize this is world War 3 U.S. troops are and have been fighting in ukraine, that was Russia and ukraines war if anything the U.S. should have supported Russia 🇷🇺
That would be the same George Orwell who, using his real name Eric Blair, voluntarily traveled to Spain to fight for the communist forces? Ever read much of Orwell's other writings about that while he was one of those doing the fighting? So, as a reality check, there was no screaming, lies, and hatred as war-propaganda coming from the communist military side of the Spanish Civil War that Blair was fighting and killing for? How about this for another reality check: When the Allies were fighting Hitler and the Axis powers in WWII, the only war propaganda screaming, lying and hatred coming from those in military uniform was all from the Allied side? Not the Nazi/Axis side? A wee bit simplistic, I suggest - as well as pretending none of what he complains about ever comes from any of the military elements involved in the fighting.
Because it is hard to answer due to the battle became a war of attrition rather than a war of manuever. Ukrainians are winning , because their defence in depth strategy is working . The Russian are forced to use another strategy , rather than pure force . Putin could not issue another draft , because his political grip of power might be compromised. Imagine , I doubt the original units of the special operation are full strength . At the end , half of Ukriane , will become a hazard for both sides . Mostly because of the mines and explosives the area .
Then you need to stop watching propaganda, bud. Every bit of it was either a lie or him just guessing wildly (and he knows this; I don’t believe he’s dumb).
Russia's existential crisis is that of a dying empire. All empires, i.e. states built on the domination of an usually vast and culturally diverse territory by one single culture, where suppression of cultures other than the dominant one is state policy, are eventually dying out. Some decay slowly until they are relegated to the status of a national state, others, most, go down in flames - like Russia.
we have seen that Paranoia crisis in 1961. Exactly, when USA discovered a sovereign country called Cuba had a few Soviet nuclear gadgets on their proper country ! Mr NATO was so paranoid and said that time: no no no, you Cubans are not free to have them soviet gadget on your god dam land, but NATO ally South Korea for sure is free to have 100 US nuclear gadget 😁
@Sonomacats That paranoia is much older. What was there during the soviets, and what Putin inherited and further developed is in fact what Russia has started building from the times of Ivan the Great, more than five centuries ago.
@Sonomacats The US paranoia is the longest ! Do you know how many wars US fought in since its independence because of the paranoia of the need to have an enemy? Today, US is working full time on arming Ukraine to weaken Russia and prepare for the real enemy that is China! USA is paranoid about China. USA officially considers China an enemy and is provoking China to invade Taiwan now rather than wait for another 10 years when China will surplus USA militarily !
@@tarrasteno Yep, that's it! And the flight time of an ICBM from Cuba to Washington DC at that time is???? Versus the flight time from South Korea - still at war with the communists above them being supplied by Russia as well as well as the Chicoms - to Moscow was how much time? Or how about this: Cuba was so terrified the US would supply the rebels to the Revolutionwith arms, just as Russia and Communist China were supplying the DKRP still in a state of war with South Korea, that those nukes they were getting were to defend against a well armed resistance that didn't like Mr. Castro and Mr. Guevera having people doing one time appearances standing in front of a wall.
Russia's lost a half million soldiers, a fifth of their oil capacity, a third of their Black Sea navy, so many planes and tanks, etc. Putin will cause the collapse of Russia.
“Ukraine, a new and important space on the Eurasian chessboard, is a geopolitical pivot because its very existence as an independent country helps to transform Russia. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.” - Zbigniew Brzeziński, The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives
Russia is only a Nuclear superpower nothing more. They never were a economic superpower with a GDP just above Spain and they proved they are not a conventional military superpower to the world. Give Iceland a few dozen ICBMs and they would be a nuclear superpower overnight too.
@@muddywater4505 Wrong...American that just spent the morning writing my Congressman to to tell him to give Ukraine everything it needs to defeat Russia. : ) GFY...vodka breath. : )
I disagree with him on the part where he said that WWII was not won with the annihilation of the other side. Germany was absolutely annihilated militarily and Japan Was put into complete submission.
If Russia is trying to re-create the Soviet Union, I wonder why it didn’t invade Kazakhstan first you know like a weaker country that was less likely to get support from NATO
Supporting neo-Nazism has become the accepted norm in the UK, EU etc. In goosestep with the corporate-controlled US. In 2016 the US banned weapons to Ukraine militia linked to neo-Nazis. In 2017 the US lifted the ban.
@@patm6704because they’re fighting the Russians. The end my of my enemy is my friend ? Not everybody in Ukraine gets along but they’re all Ukrainians fighting against the same enemy.. does it not make sense to join forces ? Are you a thinking person…??? 🤨 such a simple answer.
@@patm6704also because they started fighting the Russians in 2014.. do you really believe that nobody has the facts ? You’re either a Russian troll or an American Republican.
@@humbaba_7730 It's blatantly obvious the US and its puppet states UK and the EU etc., are using Ukraine as a proxy for regime change in Russia. US Senator Lindsey Graham said, "With U.S. weapons and money, Ukraine will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian." Utterly shameful but typical US colonial/imperialistic mindset.
@@humbaba_7730 When Russia finally realised the Minsk agreement had been a ploy to buy time for Ukraine to re-arm and prepare for a US/NATO/EU/UK proxy war against Russia - which Angela Merkel has admitted - this was an existential threat which it had to confront militarily and, furthermore, declare Russia would use everything it had to remove the threat. All other considerations about the legality of the SMO etc., and its international consequences for Russia had to be of much lesser importance. The fact many countries accepted Russia's actions as necessary, is proof they knew Russia had no other option, no doubt aided by the fact many of them had been victims - or are potential victims - of the same adversaries.
I seems like interview were interrupted after the historian start saying what is really going on in Ukraine. Please let the historian to complete what he started say without interruption.
Fast forward Feb 2024 - Russia has captured Bakhmut and Avdiivka. Other smaller towns being captured on weekly basis. - Western Aid is dwindling. - Internal friction between Zelensky and military commander. Maybe this war will end not very long.
@@kristiansandsmark2048Not to mention Russians are meat waving defensive positions, So deaths are much larger on Russias side.. It’s funny Russia said no negotiations weeks ago, and now when drones decimate Black Sea Oil infrastructure with massive 102 drone swarm Putina wants to negotiate 😂
@@henukabandara you must be a dumbass to think that the war will end quickly when it has already went on for two years and both ukrainan and russian defense position have been solidified during month and month
The only scenario that sees Russia victorious is if Putin loses his mind and goes nuclear....then his victory would be short lived as Russia would no longer be part of the world economy and the Russian economy would collapse as he tries to rebuild the Russian military without foreign income. Turning to China for help would mean China would take on Russian debt....and there goes Russian sovereignty.
Historians tend to expect that things repeat which is not always the case, their perspective however end beings the correct one more often than not and is wise to hear them out, sadly few people learns from the past and things indeed happen time and again.
I'm afraid a lot of things didnt turn out as expected. History can be a bad gauge, else many wont have gone to war and then LOSE. And I dont think R will lose in UKraine, even if more tanks are sent. R is bigger and stronger - the issue is commitment and resources. It's not just Kyiv who is in trouble with so many of their men already killed, the issue is how long will the west continue to arm Ukraine and how long can domestic agree with arming and tolerate the GDP and inflation? Even Pentagon knows it's unrealistic to beat R on the battlefield.
@@patrickkoh1056 the pentagon wouldn’t be sending resources to Ukraine if they thought it was a lost cause Ukraine hasn’t even gotten MBT’s yet Something else to realize is, no one has sent Ukraine modern equipment, it’s all decades old at this point, the Leo 2a6 will be the most modern combat vehicle in Ukrainian hands The Abrams being sent is a 90s upgrade variant, the challenger is an older export variant And all the support vehicles and AFV’s and IFV’s are all very old models and equipment Towed artillery is being out-phased by the US The M113 has been garbage since it was designed, and the Black hawk is being replaced as well Yet Russia is being held back, and every foot that Russia gains is paid for in barrels of blood, and in crates of ammunition Ukraine likely won’t win how they want, but Russia is not going to win either Likely, Ukraine will lose things they would rather keep, and Russia will lose things they would rather keep as well
@@patrickkoh1056 Russia already lost. They've lost politically. They've lost economically. They'll lose militarily one way or another. They tried to roll into Kyiv and failed. Odessa, failed. Putin didn't want NATO on Russia's border, but he gifted that to himself with Finland joining NATO. NATO will be larger and stronger because of his actions. NATO is more unified. The only way they can "win" is by changing their objectives. How many times has that happened now? Even if all support was withdrawn tomorrow (it won't) and Russia somehow managed to roll through Ukraine (they won't), they cannot hold the country. They don't have the men or resources. This is the easy part and they're struggling. The hard part is trying to control the territory and the insurgency that will follow. Ukraine isn't giving up under any circumstances, with or without support. Not only this, but Putin would be dealing with insurgency at home. Right now, the fighting is relatively contained to Ukraine. What do you think Ukraine would do if Russia succeeded in taking the country? Roll over? Continue to fight in Ukraine? Putin will have to heavily police his own borders and country, and still, he'll be dealing with bombings. Think it's bloody now? Think Putin is a ruthless brutal paranoid dictator now? He'll be bombing everything. Every time there's a village with suspected insurgents, he'll just bomb it. But he'll have air superiority and jets patrolling 24/7. Ukrainians will become more brutal; Russian Civilians will be bombed. Putin will increase his brutality. He made his own mess and he's in a no-win situation. He lost. Support for Ukraine isn't going to stop.
He failed to mention WWII, which was sort of a big event. It ended with total defeat of the Axis through ‘unconditional surrender’. It gets cold in Rochester and Goemans may just have forgotten WWII in the chill around him. If the Ukrainians are able to cut the land bridge to Crimea this spring, with the help of ATACMS, then Putin may be taken out in Russia with regime change.
Germany had to fight Russia in the east and the Allies in the west. In this war, Russia only has to fight on one front, and Russia may well get help from China.
The Russian army collapsed in 1917, in 1920 around Warsaw, in 1855 in Crimea, in 1988 in Afghanistan, in 1905 against Japan. The consequences were different each time.
How would ATACMS cut the land Bridge? Are you guys actually the events or just listening to historians, The Russians are advancing on all fronts , The west does not possess the weapons to defeat Russia whether through proxy or in a direct confrontation. What no one is talking about is how Russia would fight if they were not fighting their brothers and I am talking about blood brothers. In other words how they would practically stop the Russians if they decided to escalate.
This dude is bang on the money ! Back in 1990 (cold War period) i was a young 16 year old Junior Soldier in the British army who was attached to a Regular British Army Battalion (Queens REGIMENT) based in Minden Garrison Germany B.A.O.R ...... What I can remember mostly from the time spent with the Battalion was quite alot of daily classroom intelligence based lectures on how the Russian military had the capability to overcome the whole of Europe in 72hrs ? So when I see what's playing out in Ukraine atmo there's a huge difference between what the Russian military are actually capable of imho ? But the Guy in this clip is a 100 percent correct as the West are testing there weapons against Russia as a yardstick for sure ?
That's cause the Soviet military heavy duty brigades were Ukranian. Russia on its own doesn't really pack a punch, as you may have noticed. Putin now has....
@@canadiangemstones7636 You have a valid point indeed ! It's strange how the Russian government aligned with the so-called Azov Brigade during the USSR years ?
Every word of this man is interesting and at the same time, he sketches a grim future. Not only an inevitable collapse of what Putin is chasing, a collapse of Russia's future, but also a scenario that threatens the entire world. He does not say the latter literally, but casts at the end his shadow over this conversation. Please, more Hein Goemans.
@@trstquint7114 Casualties on Russian side is only according to Ukraine. It hasn't been independently verified by anyone and if such numbers were true the Russian army would cease to function. You surely can't be that naive
not at all. Ru is not a jihai sucidal or even merely self destructive! It wants to survive and it's been warned in private by the US that if a single WMD is set off, Ru will lose much of its military by a coalition's use of conventional military power that will pick off a ton of Ru assets , one, by one, by one. This is attrition and war. Ru has no power, of any type. Ru/ussr has always been a paper tiger, a deeply anachronistic pathetic last-gasp imperialist nation, overlording over many turkic and central asiatc ppl's. Now Ru is a warlord state with a horde of unprofessional military units that are mostly either actual criminals or criminally orientated.
I'm guessing you just came to this video to leave a snarky comment on CNN, seeing as you say you haven't watched any CNN in two years and provide a comment without any sort of argument. Would you care to elaborate?
I suggest calling to memory and using brains those who have both. The US created and supported Al-Qaeda, “freedom fighters” who fought soviets in Afghanistan in 1980s. The result was September 11 attack when Al-Qaeda destroyed Twin Tower skyscrapers and 3000 Americans in them. Then the US government supported “freedom fighters” in Chechnya. The result was Boston Marathon bombing. Now the government supports Ukraine’s regime “fighting for freedom and democracy against “Russian aggression”. “Freedom fighters” again? There is nothing to do with democracy in Ukraine. That’s nazi terrorist regime. Generations of politicians in Washington DC come and go, but they still have not learned a simple lesson. Terrorists must not be supported regardless how profitable it cold look in regard to your struggle with a geopolitical opponent. Those who assumed to be useful idiots are not so stupid and sooner or later Ukrainian terrorists will come after Americans. A smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise one from mistakes of others. Only a fool is not able to learn from own mistakes. So sad!
@@mistyblues6218 Well, according to Trump everybody lies but him, any story that is negative about him is fake news and everyone is corrupt but him. This coming from an individual who has been a defendant in over 3,300 separate lawsuits and just recently his organization found guilty of tax fraud and other crimes with a verdict of 17 criminal counts by a jury in New York just a few months ago. And his CFO Weisselberg began serving his time at Rikers Island last month. He's someone who lawmakers in his own party would even say he had a loose relationship with the truth and widely documented by Analysts showing Trump told over 30,000 mistruths - that’s 21 a day - during presidency. A lot of you Americans are seriously high on kool-Ade me tinks
1 - some wars did not end at a negotiating table. 2 - The Russian army can be defeated in Ukraine, can collapse if morale is low and logistical flows are harassed
@@solderdesolderlol, the GLSDBs are going to thoroughly check the logistic chains, while the Russians are using up their offensive potential for derisory territorial conquests! We can see the result in Vuhledar and Avdiivka ! While thousands of Ukrainians are being trained and equipment is being accumulated, Bradley, Marder, Stryker, Bastion, new Ceasars, new T-72....
1. Very very few post fall of Berlin when a nuclear power is involved as a belligerent, the only one I can think of is the South Africa bush war. Yeah that's right, Ukraine was not the only country in history to give up their nukes. 2. I'm not going to say this is impossible, but I will say it's improbable. To disrupt their logistical flows means bombing targets in and behind the Urals. The Ukrainians don't possess this capability and most likely won't be given these capabilities. Furthermore, even if Ukraine is very well equipped with perfect logistics, they will run out of manpower before the Russians. Total Ukrainian victory would likely only occur in the case of Russian government collapse.... there are zero indicators that this will occur. We've tried sanctions, yet their economy grows slightly still this year.... their debt to GDP is a fraction of our own, and their foreign currency reserves are holding, as is the value of their currency. Russians, as a people, do not overthrow governments that offer relative stability in economic terms.
The US/UK/EU anti-Putin, anti-Russia demonising has been cranked up to max since Russia intervened in Syria, a full year after the U.S. was supposedly bombing ISIS. Instead, the U.S. was protecting ISIS convoys of stolen oil, convoys of ISIS fighters and weaponry, etc. Without Russia, Syria would now be ruled by the duped head-chopping proxies of the U.S., U.K. etc. Then, the U.S. and U.K. would get public support to invade Syria. The US still illegally controls 80% of Syria's oil fields.
@@mand7985 the man is not a CNN news correspondent. I watch everything and try to get the "truth" that way. Fox, CNN, BBC, AP, and any other source. Both CNN and FOX have had their own scandals. FOX's is the most recent. I mean you had the network pushing the election conspiracy when Tucker and Hannity thought it was BS. With CNN you had the Cuomo scandal and don't forget Donna Brasil feeding debate questions to Hillary in 2016. You cannot simply write something off as a lie because of where it came from. You have to use your brain and evaluate it for yourself. In this case, it's an academic opinion. You can take it or leave it. The man was objective and used logic. It's not meant to be fact. He's giving an informed opinion.
Too sad that his very important statements were cut short by the show host. He had much more to say.
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I agree 100%
Yeah he only made it past points one and two; what was three and four??
that was frustrating. you could see him getting warmed up then cut short
Because he told the truth and CNN likes to cut those who speaks about reality on the ground.
I wish the interview hadn’t ended so quickly. He seemed insightful, made a lot of sense, and was interesting. Please have him back .
He was going to talk about the end of the afghan war campaign, so he needed to be cut off. He may not come on again.
He did not mention nukes it is some kind of propaganda I think
@@ruslankbr5243 Why state the obvious? But the stupid thing is, that if Russia wanted to stop Ukraine from joining NATO because it would come to close to their borders, then they are failing. Finland and Sweden have since then applied for membership. Even if Sweden is not allowed, Finland will. Thus making the border way longer and Finland have a massive army to defend against the Russians.
Nukes are not important. Why? If one goes off we will all die.
Some will die fast and they will be the lucky ones, some will survive and die slowly because of radiation, disease, lack of food, lack of water, plunder and killings
His hypothisis is faulty . WW2 ended with total defeat of Japan and Germany .
@@smek22071975 I think Biden or Macron stated that they will not use nukes if Russia will use it in Ukraine. And you quite don’t understand Ukraine importance for Russia this is not Finland or Sweden. Ukraine consists of territories which were part of Russia and there are as many Russians as Ukrainians in those regions, using these territories as a base for NATO is absolutely does not suit Russian interests. You know that USA stated in 2008 that Ukraine WILL BE member of NATO, how do you think where should Russian naval Sevastopol base should be removed in case of Ukraine NATO membership? That is why Russia annexed Crimea.
This is the kind of guy I prefer to listen to for over an hour rather than four minutes. I know that’s not realistic on CNN, but even in a short period of time, the professor made a very sound case.
I love hearing Don lemon talk about women in their prime...
@@SeanD808 👍🤣🤣🤣👍
4 minutes is enough coz after 4 mins you'll start hearing lies
He made a case for what? He says it’s going on for years and will end in negotiated settlement but problem is Russia isn’t credible, Russia could go after Moldova, or Putin’s death if he loses?
But realistic on FOX, didn't know that there were so many JOKERS on earth. Anyways, no SOUND MINDED person would accept going on FOX.
I have studied History and economics for 40 years . I greatly appreciate your guest and his summary of what war is. It was short factual non-political and more important accurate.
I don't comment on CNN much but you should have this guest back, he is worth the time to listen to.
The brain dead may like it but some of us prefer the truth.
He started by saying war don’t end with someone loosing…..I guest Germany didn’t loose or Japan didn’t loose ? He is clearly clueless.
Why such silence about Putin’s nuclear Arsenal updating, NATO evil plans and Armageddon? i live in the capital of the Federation and iam HONESLTY afraid i do not have a bunker, and iam afraid it can affect the planet
iam shocked i think I’ll never feel the same until today after i saw the video ‘NATO and Russia nuclear war’
don’t say all of this is Not Real
My heart is broken, but.... I WON’T DIE
@@luly2323 He said "very few wars end in total defeat...." See that? "Very few wars...." He never said that no wars end in total defeat! Work on your reading skills.
I suggest calling to memory and using brains those who have both. The US created and supported Al-Qaeda, “freedom fighters” who fought soviets in Afghanistan in 1980s. The result was September 11 attack when Al-Qaeda destroyed Twin Tower skyscrapers and 3000 Americans in them. Then the US government supported “freedom fighters” in Chechnya. The result was Boston Marathon bombing. Now the government supports Ukraine’s regime “fighting for freedom and democracy against “Russian aggression”. “Freedom fighters” again? There is nothing to do with democracy in Ukraine. That’s nazi terrorist regime. Generations of politicians in Washington DC come and go, but they still have not learned a simple lesson. Terrorists must not be supported regardless how profitable it cold look in regard to your struggle with a geopolitical opponent. Those who assumed to be useful idiots are not so stupid and sooner or later Ukrainian terrorists will come after Americans. A smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise one from mistakes of others. Only a fool is not able to learn from own mistakes. So sad!
Fascinating. Bring Professor Goemans back for more detailed discussion. Need more of him.
Worm in Ukraine never end.
NOT REALLY. HE IS ANOTHER PUPPET.
Yeah
@Eduado Oliveira .
Now try it IN intelligible ENGLISH .
@@wieslawmaciag2142 😂
Bring this man back please. Just give us 20 minutes of him talking about this war and his ideas about it because he really seems like he knows what hes talking about
“Putin is trying to target civilian population” 😂 - what an Idiot should be this stupid war expert to say such a bullshit ?!
cnn would never do that. just like they cut him off right before he got to speak reason, they will never let reason be on air.
@@Voidroamer this wasn't the first time he appeared on CNN 🤣
It's crazy how well the Manufacture of Consent still holds true. Chomsky and Herman said it 4 decades ago.
The gues started laying out how Russia can not surrender, but it takes too long to explain the implications of this so before that can sink in let's go to a commercial break!
@@lg8587 right, have you seen Michael Smerconish "interview" Roger Waters? i do not agree with Walters on everything, but that amount of condescending was unwatchable
Finally a real historian who understands how wars work and how history repeats itself.
And thats why this war is so fucking tragic. Dictators keep on dictating. Civilians keep on dying.
Why? WHAT EVIDENCE do you have that THIS particular historian has ANY more predictive capabilities than ANY OTHER historian on the planet? There's nothing wrong with the guy, or even giving his informed best decision.
But the way UNCRITICAL IDIOTS take his PREDICTION OF THE FUTURE about NONDETERMINSTIC EVENTS - what humans will choose to do - as "absolute gospel" destroys your and his credibility.
You essentially just want to hear how every war is going to end in a glorious climax like ww2 don’t you?
@@jackbedle569 history repeats itself. Also, Jesus never existed and marriage has never been traditional.
You must be joking here !
This man is an "Ass Hat" he knows nothing about the History of War.
How did the western powers stop Imperial Japan in WW2 ? Not by
negotiation that's for sure.
You stop fanatics who refuse to surrender one way my friend..
Hiroshima. Nagasaki.
Next, will have to be Moscow.
in 1993 Ukraine received safety guarantees from Russia if it stays neutral. Around 2008 Ukraine started their triumphant movement into NATO. Here's the result.
there was nothing about neutrality, kiddo. it was about giving up nukes. otherwise, brilliant comment!
More of professor Goemans please. He is absolutely brilliant and certainly knows his field of expertise.
@@hughbarr8408 also shows that you are an Internet troll.
"We're still here ... We are not going anywhere." ~ Native Americans 😔
Native Americans: Our Native American population in our motherland, the Continent of America before the European Colonizers arrived, was around 15 millions, while the European population in their motherland, the Continent of Europe was around 25 millions.
Today, Native American population is 15 million, while the European population, in the Continents of America + Europe, is a staggering 'TWO BILLIONS'! A shocking sad truth. 😔
Prof Goemans: It's about time to decolonize the Colonized lands, and return it to rightful owners Native American people.
Notorious global cardinal crimes the West has committed, and benefited a great deals, such as Slavery & Colonialism had long been over, why on earth is notorious Colonization still lingering on? 😔
Native Americans: We're still here. We are not going anywhere. 😔
@@doubtingthomas9612 Your post is NONSENSE. Those deaths of natives Americans were 99% from disease. LOTS of Europeans died from disease transmitted by native Americans to Europeans and visa versa. Do you blame Asians for way more transmitted disease deaths? We already know from ancient that second waves of new native Americans who came to Americas 12,000 years ago decimated populations that came 18,000 years ago
This guy is nothing more than another Fake News, globalist shill. His lies are now on the record.
Well he does, but I think he had to say some things in order to get on CNN, which tend to obscure the situation.
First of all, while NATO cannot trust Russia, it is clear Russia cannot trust NATO either. It is obvious that the revolution or coup in 2014, changed NATO and Russia's thinking. And while excuses can be made, pretending that the overthrow made no difference, they are ridiculous. Agreements were broken on both sides. But most importantly, Russia fully expected Ukraine to vote pro-Russian. That was why the USSR put Crimea with Ukraine in 1954. To make it more Russian. It was essentially Soviet gerrymandering.
Disavowing the large, and very probably majority Russian and pro-Russian people in the claimed territory of Ukraine is nonsense. The idea that Russia is trying to conquer Ukraine is risible; so is the idea that Putin will abandon over 10 million people that are Russian citizens and consider themselves Russian, with no desire to be at war with Russia at a minimum. There is at least one area (Crimea) where these people make up a sizeable majority.
The real miscalculation in the war is with NATO. The politicians really thought that Russia was weak and that they could bully Russia into letting go of Ukraine entirely. This was a way of NATO using their vastly superior military to impose on Russia, without a direct war that might trigger a global or nuclear war. As it turns out, a combination of the inefficiency of a proxy war, and the unexpected strength of Russia's relatively low-tech army, has surprised NATO.
NATO also somehow miscalculated the strategic and commercial importance of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine to Russia, and failed to appreciate how much the Russian people would support Putin in retrieving it, once it stopped respecting democracy. Russia's miscalculation was the strength of Ukrainian nationalism and the feeling of ownership Ukraine has for the historically Russian territories. They feel that these areas were "given" to Ukraine as a nation and they have every right to kick the Russians out.
However, he is correct. The only solution now is a negotiated settlement, and that has to start at a minimum with Crimea conceded to Russia. However, I fear that the USA and NATO need Russian war reparations in order to pay for the war, preferably paid in oil. I don't think there is any way NATO and the USA, can afford to stop the fighting, concede any territory to Russia, and still have the money to rebuild Ukraine and avoid a financial collapse. NATO has put itself in a position that they can't afford anything other than an unconditional surrender by the Russians, and that, as Goemans correctly IMO points out, is historically very unlikely.
Why the interview ended so quickly? This guy is the man to make a whole segment with. Very knowledgeable. Someone i would love to sit and talk about this war issue.
Yes, he did not come to the scenario where the citizens come to the conclusion that they are betrayed by NATO, EU, UK, Kolomoisky and Zelenski. That Zelensky promised to make an end to coruption and the troubles in the Donbas, and did neither. That the Minsk 2 accords were much better than this war. That the two "revolutions", the "Orange" one and the "Dignity" one, - sponsord by CIA and US oligarchs, - were done by bad loosers in Presidential elections. That they are much better of by letting tthe pro-Russion parts become independent and stay neutral.
This man either knows nothing at all or he is paid to propagandize and lie to you. You know that, right? He could not have been more wrong. I don’t think he’s ignorant; just a liar.
@@jpalmiotti "My source is that I made it the fuck up" 🤡
@@jpalmiotti Few people in the world are better qualified to speak on the subject than him. Least of all you.
@@jpalmiotti bot
the one time a person speaking about this war isn't labeled an expert and actually knows what's happening.
How do you know that he knows what`s happening? Please give arguments. What certain part of the interview gave you this certainty? I`m very interested. All folks around here seem interested and give him credits for being phenomenal...only war experts around here, or maybe they like BS? Most probably the latter.
@@GeorgeIllustrationsRight on. Exactly the same thing I was going to write.
he is an expert...: )...reason he was interviewed... this is a different angle that is most certainly more accurate and precise due to his academic knowledge
@@atta1798 Degree, not knowledge
@@tubebreguet Academics in this case is based on history that is knowledge he acquired through a degree and years of research to develop an expertise gaining the knowledge...... this is a known fact and very distinct Aaa Bbb... just differentiate and learn what I am telling you... the reason he drew the possible outcomes......same for GeorgwV.....it is not about arguments or proof ...this is no different from the financial institutions they have a risk asset department they use math to predict an outcome on finances to make the money..... in this case... to have the ability to give the outcomes based on knowledge .. ...like in Linear algebra and graphs....you take progression of numbers to predict the possible outcome to a certain degree of probability.... in this case based on the knowledge he acquire though his degree, he outlines possible scenarios ... this is a common practice in most professions that rehire a certain level of expertise.... and that knowledge....read the rise and the fall of powers....the book correlates thru the last 200 years+ what took empires to fall down based on common patterns and their policies, spending, systems...etc...... This professor is the best feedback there is so far in the media non biased and based on the facts.....no different from historian...in this case knowledge = based on past history, he draws possible outcome .....I hope this helps you and GeorgeV
Why interrupt him, the stupid network time limit.
This professor knows what he's talking about. Please put him on longer.
However, the professor failed to acknowledge the ageing European continent. The projected age of Ukraine in 2025 is 42.8 years. An ageing population is detrimental to war.
@dan mac 42/43(age) is too old for population replacement.
He doesn´t. The Romans and the Mongols targeted civilians and it worked, This guy is an idiot.
@dan mac No, I am not Russian. However, I do love Russians, and Ukrainians. I'm just an old African American praying for an End to all WARS.
@@teenahweenah2608 The only end to war is the end of aggression...Russia is the aggressor state here. Age has no bearing on it....only the will to survive. Ukraine isn't interested in you bleeding hearts, that want to try and force your opinions on them, they are interested in a lasting peace only...for them and all around them for them to survive. For that to happen, then Russia must be broken up into smaller manageable independent states, rather than left as the Great Russian empire, the soviet Union or the Russian federation. The name changed regularly in History, to counter the historical memories, but the actions remained the same through each period.....mass destruction, war and complete obedience to the master race. Why are they like this, simply because they are built on the slav`s..... the slave people who have a burning desire to turn the table on the rest of the world. This is turning into a war to protect Ukraine and will grow to include the EU and or NATO as a means to protect the future for what you claim....an end to war. Heroyam Slava Ukraini!
Watching from afar.History has shown time and time again what happens to evil Dictators.
This time footage must be in 3D, and in high resolution.
In the past, these evil dictators didn’t have Life threatening weapons on standby, by the thousands. This guy could end civilization, or so they say. Really hope I’m wrong tho
@@isaacgloria9963 unless he gets ☠️ and the next person in the pecking order decides he wants peace
@@MikeR2111 that’s a big what if, who’s going to kill him? Hate to talk so dark man but after all the war crimes he’s committing he deserves it
@@isaacgloria9963 So, you are not among those invited to the underground bunkers, are you? Fifteen years and everything will be normal on the surface: clean air and water, normal atmosphere....and no other humans or dictators. AI robots will ensure all pockets of enemy resistance are eliminated, just like in the prophecies.
I wish cable news was always this informative
Huh? How was this informative? He didn't tell us anything.
@@hughjass1044 Hard of thinking?
@@jeffsuter344 How so? The headline reads "Historian predicts how Russia's war in Ukraine might end?" He never told us that. Did I miss something?
He told us several things which would never be acceptable to each side; all of which we knew, so what is his prediction? Enlighten me.
@@hughjass1044 he mentioned a few. You just want a simple, definitive answer. The real world isn't one of your Bible fantasy storied pal.
@@mwfmtnman My, my, my.... aren't we the bitter, hate filled little person all chock full of assumptions and insecurities? My you don't be sticking your toes into any swimming pools there Sunshine, lest they become vats of battery acid.
Usa spent 20 years in Afganistan to replace Taliban with Taliban 😂😂
If US is superpower, Taliban is hyperpower then 😂😂
The problem was that twenty years was not enough for that stone age society, they didn't even have a plan to turn the natives into civilized people, so what could the result be? You still forgot to tell how much money was put into the riser. Traitor Trump.
no no no USA occupied Afghanistan for 20 years... we went settled in and chilled for 20 years while they hid in mountains never forget that
@@hotsAUc33 Stucked in outpost because IED is scattered everywhere AHAHAHA
@@hotsAUc33 You are lying. The Afghans managed their country by themselves even with the presence of allied troops, the reconstruction teams, for example, let the mayors of the villages themselves decide what they wanted to do with their village, what they needed and how to do it. The US presence was there only so that terrorists from the Taliban would not forcefully introduce their crazy customs under the Kalashnikov and people could live peacefully.
Very interesting, thanks CNN! ❤But please have a longer Interview with Prof Goemans (4 minutes is a bit short for such an important question). Praying for the people in Ukraine 🇺🇦
What about Palestine? Not trying to spread hate against Ukraine but..
"But please have a longer Interview with Prof Goemans (4 minutes is a bit short for such an important question)"
Did you get bumped on the head? 4 minutes is long enough considering the war started only a year ago. Also idk if its just me but it feels like people like you only support Ukraine because its trending (at the moment thanks to Biden). Let me mind you Ukrainian people are actually suffering, and it's not like the dead civilians can respawn after they die.
Protest in Berlin over arming Ukraine against Russia draws thousands..
@@backup_almeknassi9824 Palestine is a another whole kettle of fish that is decades old. Thanks to the British after withdrawing from the area left a bloody mess. Also there is a religious clash which always heightens any conflict.
@@michaela4024 Just because how long its been going on doesn't mean it doesn't deserve attention. The commenter probably doesn't care about Ukraine anyway. Or any war. Just a measly reaction ngl.
Everyone is predicting but nobody really knows ….
Exactly
@ Marcus Kuhnert S P O T O N !!
No shiz...
Chicago song lyrics spring to mind:
"As I was walking down the street one day
A man came up to me and asked me
What the time was that was on my watch, yeah
And I said
Does anybody really know what time it is
(Care) Does anybody really care
(About time) If so I can't imagine why
(Oh no, no) We've all got time enough to cry
And I was walking down the street one day
A pretty lady looked at me and
Said her diamond watch had stopped cold dead
And I said
Does anybody really know what time it is
(Care) Does anybody really care
(About time) If so I can't imagine why
(Oh no, no) We've all got time enough to cry
And I was walking down the street one day
(People runnin' everywhere)
Being pushed and shoved (don't know where to go)
By people trying to beat the clock (I don't know where I am)
Oh no, so I just don't know (I can't see past the next step)
I don't know, I don't know-ow
And I said
Yes I said
(I don't have time to. I don't have time to look around)
(I just run around everywhere)
(I don't) Does anybody really know what time it is
(Care) Does anybody really care
(About time) If so I can't imagine why
(Oh no, no) We've all got time enough to die
Everybody's worryin'
(I don't care) I don't care
(About time) About time
(Oh no, no) I don't care"
Interesting point of view. Thanks for your interest in our problems. Greetings from Ukraine
Our (the world interest) is what keeps you Ukrainians alive. If they were only “your” problems Ukraine wouldn't exist anymore.
@@NewBeginnings413 maybe we shouldn't give up nuclear weapons in 1994 to don't make troubles for any other countries. I hope you aren't suffering so much after this great deal with pr. Clinton and russia.
@@minoramare5829 it was the Russians that made Ukraine give back “soviet nukes” to Russia when the soviet union collapsed and Ukraine claimed independence. Don't try to rewrite history.
@@minoramare5829 if you believe you would stand a chance without the west (training, military equipment, intelligence, money....) then stop begging and protect yourself alone. Write your president if you are that ignorant.
Tell Zelensky to go neutral and stop this war before all are dead!
There needs to be a WAY longer interview with this man.
He isn’t saying things CNN wants him to say. 😂
@@kylint7683 the most important thing, which he of course is not able to say is that this war was a long-term american deep government project. First step was to make ukrainians hate russians, raise new generation, who will be grown up in hate to russians, set pro-western government in Ukraine. Next step is to make instigate Putin to start war invasion through agents (treasoners, who still sit in russian government and sabotage to make sure Russia won't win ) and making threats of placing NATOs military bases in Ukraine, the main goal is redistribution of ecomonical sphere of influence , making money on killing people in Russia & Ukraine, the more and the longer the war will go on, the more benefits America will get
The professor demonstrated that he can only see this conflict from a western/N.A.T.O. perspective. No acknowledgment of the ethnic aspect of the "civil conflict" rife within Ukraine between 2014-2022.
Very good analysis, wishing to hear from the professor more often.
He didn’t tell how the war will end CNN is biased
Really? As a Dutchman, I am glad that he is teaching in the USA. He really thinks that Putler has the possibility to liberate Moldova? How!? This professor discredited himself as far as I am concerned. Besides this, he didn't say anything new or interesting.
@@dougveganparadisebuilder5808 Did he say Putin has the ability to “liberate” Moldova? No, he said that Putin may _try_ to invade Moldova as a way to sell the war to Russians at home as a victory (and therefore “justify” the tremendous loss of life).
If the professor is correct that Putin faces death if Russia loses, it’s rational and makes perfect sense that he’d consider all options to allow him to claim “victory”.
D
This is not a war, this is called special military operation AKA Russian Aggression.
An example of war is two or more countries fighting each other by bringing their army into each other's land territory. Ukraine is not taking its army to Moscow or invade Moscow.
WW II was a war because Germany brought their Army to other territories and fight England, France and others then US brought their Army to Germany and Japan, and Japan to Pearl Harbor. That's why it was called a "war".
I called this a Land Grabbing through military force by invasion.
Ukraine is simply defending a territory and is not declaring war against Russia.
A boxing match is like a war because two opponents agreed on a fight. A burglary or rape is like an invasion. Consensual f*ucking is sex.
Again, this is not a war.
A historian should be aware that the first anniversary of the war was a long time ago. It's been ongoing for 9 years.
Exactly! Thank you.
Not a war special military operation
@@hotsAUc33 No, when one country invades another, it is a war.
@@StormsparkPegasus think it was a sarcastic comment
But It's a historian from USA invited by fake news
They should allow him to have more airtime. He on point in his view.
Oh yeah, to spread more BS
This didn't age well
I am here for the comments.
How so? His comments seem spot on. Your comment makes no sense and definitely won't age well. Unfortunately, there is no end in sight to this war.
@@wbb5954 your talking to me?
"...war provides information..." Such a straightforward statement (amongst others) from him. Realistic or deeply embedded regional security and sovereignty concerns appear to always have been a legitimate enough reason to go to war, sooner or later.
It's a fascinating thought, believing that Putin was terrified of Ukraine suddenly invading Russia. And worse, perhaps NATO nations like Canada sending their armed forces to join in the NATO support for that unprovoked attack. It's clear why Putin had such enormous regional security and sovereignty concerns faced with a threat to Russia like that.
Same as in Georgia and Chechnya previously, apparently.
@@AirborneMOC031 The idea that Ukraine would invade Russia is preposterous. No, this is a war of choice driven by greed, misplaced pride and nostalgia for faded glory.
@@jasonlatour3403 it was engraved in the Ukrainian constitution that they would retake Crimean peninsula. So seeing Ukraine being armed and trained by NATO Putin made a decision to intervene before Ukraine gets stronger to attempt retaking the Crimea.
@@jasonlatour3403 You might want to try reading what I wrote again, before whining about what I wrote. I essentially posted what you're now repeating: the idea that Putin actually feared invasion from Ukraine with NATO nations like Canada sending their troops to fight a land war across Russia is indeed ridiculous.
But... thanks for coming out.
Well, not wishing to support nor oppose the viewpoints expressed under this thread, all I can suggest is that most people love a good old scrap (often to the death or the bitter end), especially in so far as it pertains to ideas or belief regarding religion, race, territory, perceived identity, perceived justice or just plain old fear of missing out on something or somebody. Not a lot different to what we see on a day to day basis within so-called "civilized" societies really.
they should’ve let him keep going. 🙏🏼 I love historians.
They're so old school though
@@colindyer450 facts are facts. you want them dressed up and repackaged with a woke ribbon?
@@rickmorgan1441 no, we want it to wear a maga hat :P
Don't cut this man short...he knows this subject!
It’s great that CNN brought this guy on, but I wish they’d let him talk longer.
Agreed. CNN wastes so much air time filling dead space. Here you have a real expert. Let him talk.
They dont wanna hear more because it is the truth
Don't you love it when an interviewer interrupts the speaker just as he gets to the point where he is about to state how he thinks the war will end? So damn frustrating.
“Because you can't intervene everywhere, you don't conclude you can't intervene anywhere.” - Zbigniew Brzezinski
thanks Mika
@@wobu5361 Daughter of a War Criminal, Mika is a $M-heiress Media icon. Wow.
@@wobu5361 What did your dad do?
Drive truck?
Where was BBC & other News outlets when Western Ukraine was bombing Eastern Ukraine citizens for 8 years since the CIA COUP in 2014? The pictures then of the Donbas area and other areas of Eastern Ukraine between 2014 & 2022 are little different from these from Western Ukraine bombing their own Russian Speaking citizens. Western Ukraine has lost their right to govern Eastern Ukraine. Seek Peace. Grant Independent Country Status to Eastern Ukraine States protected by Russia until they are fully established countries.
There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.
Donald Rumsfeld
Bro studied history so much he became historic
He is prehistorical
he's an EXPERT!
they disguised him as historian to fool us
I love listening to professors talk about the possibility of Pootin being thrown out of a window. It's my favorite thing.
haha 🤣 ... one of the little joys of life
i think you should by a parachute and ware it at all times you might be first out the window🤣
Should be best spelled poo-tin!
@@2012isnear-my-my-my you would fall out even before poo-tin or anybody else 🤪! At least I hope so!!
you might spell Xoxol also
Very insightful. Thank you.
Why do announcers always ask stupid questions and prevent us from hearing those people who actually have something to say (i.e. the interviewed experts).
Most announcers are either pretty faces, smart mouths, or a combination of the two. They aren't the smartest people out there and most of the time they do as they are told, which is "Get on with it. Next."
It’s the producer with a stopwatch, nothing to do with the host.
Ukraine will lost. Zelensky happily running to his Masters and report he had done well for his job.
that scenario lacks a proper picture of the way things are developing in the international community. this war will end in a disaster for Russia, it simply can't end up differently. not because I want it to, but because the consequences of it not happening are nothing anyone, or at least most, aren't gonna deal with.
There are now two international communities. This war could end in disaster for the West as a new community of nations emerges to oppose its hegemony.
@@dalecrocker3213 too simple. the fragmentation is spread differently since we have the internet and a world economy that benefits from using it to oppress any attempt to fix the issues it causes. no east/west, north/south. that was 30 years ago.
POOtin Never Back Down?
POOtin Never Keep Treaties?
Putin has nothing to lose?
What about the F*kg
-- Russian PEASANTS???
What about people of
Surrounding Countries POOtin Claims will Swallow???
My god, Russia STILL living in age of Barbarianism -- where those who KILL the most win!!?
Is there Nothing the Civilized FREE World can do to stop such atrocities?
@@janalucke9739 There is a rapidly emerging divide between American, dollar-dominated economies and the increasing BRICS community, however. If the new BRICS gold-based currency gets into full swing and challenges the petrodollar, and even the dollar itself, Western hegemony could be ended.
It will eventually of course, but it could be sooner rather than later - especially if the Ukraine adventure misfires, as it already is in many respects.
@@dalecrocker3213 point taken
We are witnessing the modern and technological version of David and Goliath, because no one expected Ukraine to not only stand up to a giant...... but push the giant back and make it rethink its attack!
David didnt ask for help from Egypt against Goliath like Ukraine is relying on help from USAUK etc..its more like Goliath v Goliath
Ukraine or NATO?
@Lawn Chair ... you mean the crisis of Zelensky murdering people who speak Russian ... right? ... the 14,400 lives taken by Zelensky are a fable? ... no one came to their aid besides Russia? ... we demand our people are protected far and near and are willing to do whatever it takes to protect each and every one ... but no one else should be allowed to by the hall monitors? ... get a grip people ... rules for thee and not for me policy ....
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Really interesting. I'd like to hear more of what he has to say.
Can we please bring this man back for a full hour without any interruptions!
I'd love to hear more of his thoughts but I cannot find his name on the internet.
The interview is very short yet fascinating
take your meds its just propaganda . has nothing to do with reality. gay is a moron with a title
I don’t see why the Russians can’t suffer a defeat in Ukraine. The Ukrainians are not going to allow the Russians to stick around, just like the Afghan people didn’t allow the Russians to stick around in Afghanistan. Even if the Ukrainian army doesn’t completely annihilate the Russians in Ukraine and the Russians will just have to retreat at some point, there will only be peace when the Russians are gone out of Ukraine.
@Idkbruhbruh that’s a key thing that Russian propagandist fascists such as yourself are selling. The whole world knows it’s nonsense. Try a Russian channel. People in the free world don’t buy this nonsense.
no any analogies with Afghanistan. Most of Eastern Ukrainains speak Russian better than Ukrainian language. Many of them prefer live peacefully under any Ukrainain or Russian authority, other part prefer Russia. For example, Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk, no any guerillas after 2014.
@@solderdesolder Your argument about the Russian language makes as much sense as the stories about the tooth fairy.
@@Sharky1101 language and mentality, and it's in conditions of Ukraine's pressure on Russian-speaking people (a ban on moviess and songs in Russian, a ban on educations in Russian, etc., and this began before 2022).
@@solderdesolder it’s their country. If they want to ban Russian then that’s fine. They have elected leaders who carry out the will of the people. If my country in Europe decides to ban Russian you’re going to invade too? C’mon man get real.
Four months have elapsed, and the opinions of the professor have gotten ever more convincing
Yep. It's up to the Russian people to rise and remove him. The Russian security service can't wait til it happens.
Biden looking like a leader of world Democracy. ☑️
Ukraine is not nato
JOE DESERVES BE A JAIL-BIRD .
I am sure with Trump he would side with Putin
@@boycott-Msnbc Russia is nothing
@@marcuskuhnert6191 think
Blimey!!! If I wasn't American Irish. I would want to Ukrainian!!! Cheers
The whole world tinks that. Me tinks
Why is this guy not on EVERY SINGLE DAY?!?!?!? Give this guy 20 minutes 5 days a week!!! Give him his own show!!!!!
Relax.
I only want him in cnn
At 1:47 look at that guy with the wrong camo. Thats the professional forces we funded billions of dollars to and they cant even get snow camo for everyone. What? Are the Ukrainians trying to mimic the Soviets during the winter war now?
Such wisdom from Prof. G needs to be given extended time. God bless 🙌 him more!
Cold war already on.
The war will never end.
China is looking n learning for a bigger war.
The war will have more supporters.
North Korea if they start who can stop them.
With china as the big brother will also get involved.
China is the instrument for creating a world war.....
I suggest calling to memory and using brains those who have both. The US created and supported Al-Qaeda, “freedom fighters” who fought soviets in Afghanistan in 1980s. The result was September 11 attack when Al-Qaeda destroyed Twin Tower skyscrapers and 3000 Americans in them. Then the US government supported “freedom fighters” in Chechnya. The result was Boston Marathon bombing. Now the government supports Ukraine’s regime “fighting for freedom and democracy against “Russian aggression”. “Freedom fighters” again? There is nothing to do with democracy in Ukraine. That’s nazi terrorist regime. Generations of politicians in Washington DC come and go, but they still have not learned a simple lesson. Terrorists must not be supported regardless how profitable it cold look in regard to your struggle with a geopolitical opponent. Those who assumed to be useful idiots are not so stupid and sooner or later Ukrainian terrorists will come after Americans. A smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise one from mistakes of others. Only a fool is not able to learn from own mistakes. So sad!
Lol wisdom?! Y’all are brainwashed. That man just lied and speculated for 4 straight minutes and you call that wisdom?! lol
@@alexhumble7653 you’re wasting your breath. These people are either not real or brainwashed. It is so sad…
I just brought up historic facts making my analysis. Can you tell me what my lie is? Otherwise your accusations are mere words and primitive propaganda.
He hadnt finished answering the question as she buts in and diverts him to another......
@Sonomacats yeah, but if you dont let him finish his answer, where the "bite"? Its nuts!!!
I would willing to hear more from this fella.
Interview cut too short,,,
There are a lot of scary scenarios that could happen here. One is of course inadvertently escalating to nuclear war which would doom human civilization. But equally likely is a war that doesn’t end. Just an endless ceasefire like North and South Korea.
I suggest calling to memory and using brains those who have both. The US created and supported Al-Qaeda, “freedom fighters” who fought soviets in Afghanistan in 1980s. The result was September 11 attack when Al-Qaeda destroyed Twin Tower skyscrapers and 3000 Americans in them. Then the US government supported “freedom fighters” in Chechnya. The result was Boston Marathon bombing. Now the government supports Ukraine’s regime “fighting for freedom and democracy against “Russian aggression”. “Freedom fighters” again? There is nothing to do with democracy in Ukraine. That’s nazi terrorist regime. Generations of politicians in Washington DC come and go, but they still have not learned a simple lesson. Terrorists must not be supported regardless how profitable it cold look in regard to your struggle with a geopolitical opponent. Those who assumed to be useful idiots are not so stupid and sooner or later Ukrainian terrorists will come after Americans. A smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise one from mistakes of others. Only a fool is not able to learn from own mistakes. So sad!
@@alexhumble7653
The mistakes of the US do not make the Russians the good guys. So firstly the claim that Ukraine is a Nazi regime is asinine baseless Russian propaganda.
Not only do they have a Jewish president, the Russian speaking population has more rights in Ukraine than they would in Russia.
Second the Ukrainians are fighting to defend their homeland. Even if you don’t like them or want them to win, you can understand that their motivation is better than Putin’s geopolitical interests.
You can not pretend to be “anti imperialism” if you are pro Russian imperialism.
@@alexhumble7653 I agree it seems America has once again found itself on the wrong side of history alot of people don't realize this is world War 3 U.S. troops are and have been fighting in ukraine, that was Russia and ukraines war if anything the U.S. should have supported Russia 🇷🇺
“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.” ― George Orwell.
a tribute to catalonia? why?
Thank you.. that is the best quote for me this year.
That would be the same George Orwell who, using his real name Eric Blair, voluntarily traveled to Spain to fight for the communist forces? Ever read much of Orwell's other writings about that while he was one of those doing the fighting?
So, as a reality check, there was no screaming, lies, and hatred as war-propaganda coming from the communist military side of the Spanish Civil War that Blair was fighting and killing for?
How about this for another reality check: When the Allies were fighting Hitler and the Axis powers in WWII, the only war propaganda screaming, lying and hatred coming from those in military uniform was all from the Allied side? Not the Nazi/Axis side?
A wee bit simplistic, I suggest - as well as pretending none of what he complains about ever comes from any of the military elements involved in the fighting.
@@AirborneMOC031 Fake news!
He didn't answer the question
Because it is hard to answer due to the battle became a war of attrition rather than a war of manuever. Ukrainians are winning , because their defence in depth strategy is working . The Russian are forced to use another strategy , rather than pure force . Putin could not issue another draft , because his political grip of power might be compromised. Imagine , I doubt the original units of the special operation are full strength . At the end , half of Ukriane , will become a hazard for both sides . Mostly because of the mines and explosives the area .
He did, he told clearly the war will drag on for a long period
Someone wasn’t listening in class
Arm chair philosophy, nobody can predict how this will end.
Best explanation of the current situation I have heard to date.
Then you need to stop watching propaganda, bud. Every bit of it was either a lie or him just guessing wildly (and he knows this; I don’t believe he’s dumb).
Why so short?????
Russia's existential crisis is self-made (i.e., Paranoia)
Russia's existential crisis is that of a dying empire. All empires, i.e. states built on the domination of an usually vast and culturally diverse territory by one single culture, where suppression of cultures other than the dominant one is state policy, are eventually dying out. Some decay slowly until they are relegated to the status of a national state, others, most, go down in flames - like Russia.
we have seen that Paranoia crisis in 1961. Exactly, when USA discovered a sovereign country called Cuba had a few Soviet nuclear gadgets on their proper country ! Mr NATO was so paranoid and said that time: no no no, you Cubans are not free to have them soviet gadget on your god dam land, but NATO ally South Korea for sure is free to have 100 US nuclear gadget 😁
@Sonomacats That paranoia is much older. What was there during the soviets, and what Putin inherited and further developed is in fact what Russia has started building from the times of Ivan the Great, more than five centuries ago.
@Sonomacats The US paranoia is the longest ! Do you know how many wars US fought in since its independence because of the paranoia of the need to have an enemy? Today, US is working full time on arming Ukraine to weaken Russia and prepare for the real enemy that is China! USA is paranoid about China. USA officially considers China an enemy and is provoking China to invade Taiwan now rather than wait for another 10 years when China will surplus USA militarily !
@@tarrasteno Yep, that's it! And the flight time of an ICBM from Cuba to Washington DC at that time is???? Versus the flight time from South Korea - still at war with the communists above them being supplied by Russia as well as well as the Chicoms - to Moscow was how much time?
Or how about this: Cuba was so terrified the US would supply the rebels to the Revolutionwith arms, just as Russia and Communist China were supplying the DKRP still in a state of war with South Korea, that those nukes they were getting were to defend against a well armed resistance that didn't like Mr. Castro and Mr. Guevera having people doing one time appearances standing in front of a wall.
This guy was really thought provoking. Bring him back.
147,000 russian occupiers killed so far 😱
200K by the summer. Putin sent them to their deaths.
147,000 good russians
Losses of Ukrainain army is not less
Well, so many people got pushed above any 26th floor, that could be his last view and breath on earth.
Ukraine's counteroffensive failed, and now Avdeyevka is about the collapse to Russian forces. This guy's predictions aren't worth anything.
Russia's lost a half million soldiers, a fifth of their oil capacity, a third of their Black Sea navy, so many planes and tanks, etc.
Putin will cause the collapse of Russia.
Avdiivka collapsed now so what? The fight goes on and new Offensives come
@@Hangman11 The entire front is already crumbling
“Ukraine, a new and important space on the Eurasian chessboard, is a geopolitical pivot because its very existence as an independent country helps to transform Russia. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.” - Zbigniew Brzeziński, The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives
Let European taxpayers fund this war , the United States has given enough.
Russia is only a Nuclear superpower nothing more.
They never were a economic superpower with a GDP just above Spain and they proved they are not a conventional military superpower to the world.
Give Iceland a few dozen ICBMs and they would be a nuclear superpower overnight too.
@@mysticone1798 given the amount of comments on this channel alone, I doubt it thinks.
Z trolls haven't given up on making us take Brzezinski's writings as official US foreign policy; Rude...
@@mysticone1798 Pootin approves of your comment
👌Should have let him on for more minutes we like his insights
Give Ukraine the Jets Joe…ASAP
Give Ukraine the Jets ,European union...ASAP
This sounds better to the United States taxpayer.
@@muddywater4505 Russian propaganda troll...GFY. : )
@@unworthy42 ... wrong... . Call your government and tell them to give more tax dollars to Ukraine.
The United States taxpayer's have given enough.
@@unworthy42
@@muddywater4505 Wrong...American that just spent the morning writing my Congressman to to tell him to give Ukraine everything it needs to defeat Russia. : )
GFY...vodka breath. : )
I disagree with him on the part where he said that WWII was not won with the annihilation of the other side. Germany was absolutely annihilated militarily and Japan Was put into complete submission.
This fellow is in the bag. Not a source I'd take seriously.
Bullshit. How is this guy a professor.
If Russia is trying to re-create the Soviet Union, I wonder why it didn’t invade Kazakhstan first you know like a weaker country that was less likely to get support from NATO
Great analysis!
Supporting neo-Nazism has become the accepted norm in the UK, EU etc. In goosestep with the corporate-controlled US. In 2016 the US banned weapons to Ukraine militia linked to neo-Nazis. In 2017 the US lifted the ban.
@@patm6704because they’re fighting the Russians. The end my of my enemy is my friend ? Not everybody in Ukraine gets along but they’re all Ukrainians fighting against the same enemy.. does it not make sense to join forces ? Are you a thinking person…??? 🤨 such a simple answer.
@@patm6704also because they started fighting the Russians in 2014.. do you really believe that nobody has the facts ? You’re either a Russian troll or an American Republican.
@@humbaba_7730 It's blatantly obvious the US and its puppet states UK and the EU etc., are using Ukraine as a proxy for regime change in Russia. US Senator Lindsey Graham said, "With U.S. weapons and money, Ukraine will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian." Utterly shameful but typical US colonial/imperialistic mindset.
@@humbaba_7730 When Russia finally realised the Minsk agreement had been a ploy to buy time for Ukraine to re-arm and prepare for a US/NATO/EU/UK proxy war against Russia - which Angela Merkel has admitted - this was an existential threat which it had to confront militarily and, furthermore, declare Russia would use everything it had to remove the threat. All other considerations about the legality of the SMO etc., and its international consequences for Russia had to be of much lesser importance. The fact many countries accepted Russia's actions as necessary, is proof they knew Russia had no other option, no doubt aided by the fact many of them had been victims - or are potential victims - of the same adversaries.
Putin better stay away from tall buildings.
Come over here, just look at the view from here.
And stay away from open windows too!
Why?
Probability of this joker of a historian falling is much bigger than Putin's
CNN: can you tell us that we are right and we will win?
Random historian: okay
I seems like interview were interrupted after the historian start saying what is really going on in Ukraine. Please let the historian to complete what he started say without interruption.
Fast forward Feb 2024
- Russia has captured Bakhmut and Avdiivka. Other smaller towns being captured on weekly basis.
- Western Aid is dwindling.
- Internal friction between Zelensky and military commander.
Maybe this war will end not very long.
Yea. Based on the speed of the advance it would take about 25 years to take Ukraine. This was before the aid package.
@@kristiansandsmark2048 You are literally repeating what the Germans said with the offensives in Italy....
@@kristiansandsmark2048 Yeah right Ukraine is advancing but backwards 💀💀
@@kristiansandsmark2048Not to mention Russians are meat waving defensive positions, So deaths are much larger on Russias side.. It’s funny Russia said no negotiations weeks ago, and now when drones decimate Black Sea Oil infrastructure with massive 102 drone swarm Putina wants to negotiate 😂
@@henukabandara you must be a dumbass to think that the war will end quickly when it has already went on for two years and both ukrainan and russian defense position have been solidified during month and month
This is very complicated, indeed. I have no clue how and when this will end..
The only scenario that sees Russia victorious is if Putin loses his mind and goes nuclear....then his victory would be short lived as Russia would no longer be part of the world economy and the Russian economy would collapse as he tries to rebuild the Russian military without foreign income. Turning to China for help would mean China would take on Russian debt....and there goes Russian sovereignty.
I am from Moldova. He is right. Moldova is in crises right now due to Russia’s involvement in our politics.
A man with nothing to lose is the most dangerous
Yes, thats why ruzzian sympathizers and other scum should be scared
This is such a poor analysis
He looks exactly like i imagined.
Very insightful thank you prof
He was wrong:)
I was thinking I could have listened to this guy go on for the next hour, then I found his interview with Silicon Curtain. Fascinating.
Historians tend to expect that things repeat which is not always the case, their perspective however end beings the correct one more often than not and is wise to hear them out, sadly few people learns from the past and things indeed happen time and again.
I'm afraid a lot of things didnt turn out as expected.
History can be a bad gauge, else many wont have gone to war and then LOSE.
And I dont think R will lose in UKraine, even if more tanks are sent. R is bigger and stronger - the issue is commitment and resources. It's not just Kyiv who is in trouble with so many of their men already killed, the issue is how long will the west continue to arm Ukraine and how long can domestic agree with arming and tolerate the GDP and inflation? Even Pentagon knows it's unrealistic to beat R on the battlefield.
@@patrickkoh1056 History gives the example of the Soviet Union collapse.
@@agnelomascarenhas8990 and of the Roman Empire
@@patrickkoh1056 the pentagon wouldn’t be sending resources to Ukraine if they thought it was a lost cause
Ukraine hasn’t even gotten MBT’s yet
Something else to realize is, no one has sent Ukraine modern equipment, it’s all decades old at this point, the Leo 2a6 will be the most modern combat vehicle in Ukrainian hands
The Abrams being sent is a 90s upgrade variant, the challenger is an older export variant
And all the support vehicles and AFV’s and IFV’s are all very old models and equipment
Towed artillery is being out-phased by the US
The M113 has been garbage since it was designed, and the Black hawk is being replaced as well
Yet Russia is being held back, and every foot that Russia gains is paid for in barrels of blood, and in crates of ammunition
Ukraine likely won’t win how they want, but Russia is not going to win either
Likely, Ukraine will lose things they would rather keep, and Russia will lose things they would rather keep as well
@@patrickkoh1056 Russia already lost. They've lost politically. They've lost economically. They'll lose militarily one way or another. They tried to roll into Kyiv and failed. Odessa, failed. Putin didn't want NATO on Russia's border, but he gifted that to himself with Finland joining NATO. NATO will be larger and stronger because of his actions. NATO is more unified. The only way they can "win" is by changing their objectives. How many times has that happened now?
Even if all support was withdrawn tomorrow (it won't) and Russia somehow managed to roll through Ukraine (they won't), they cannot hold the country. They don't have the men or resources. This is the easy part and they're struggling. The hard part is trying to control the territory and the insurgency that will follow. Ukraine isn't giving up under any circumstances, with or without support. Not only this, but Putin would be dealing with insurgency at home. Right now, the fighting is relatively contained to Ukraine. What do you think Ukraine would do if Russia succeeded in taking the country? Roll over? Continue to fight in Ukraine? Putin will have to heavily police his own borders and country, and still, he'll be dealing with bombings. Think it's bloody now? Think Putin is a ruthless brutal paranoid dictator now? He'll be bombing everything. Every time there's a village with suspected insurgents, he'll just bomb it. But he'll have air superiority and jets patrolling 24/7. Ukrainians will become more brutal; Russian Civilians will be bombed. Putin will increase his brutality. He made his own mess and he's in a no-win situation. He lost. Support for Ukraine isn't going to stop.
He failed to mention WWII, which was sort of a big event. It ended with total defeat of the Axis through ‘unconditional surrender’. It gets cold in Rochester and Goemans may just have forgotten WWII in the chill around him. If the Ukrainians are able to cut the land bridge to Crimea this spring, with the help of ATACMS, then Putin may be taken out in Russia with regime change.
Germany had to fight Russia in the east and the Allies in the west. In this war, Russia only has to fight on one front, and Russia may well get help from China.
@@DieFlabbergast ... yes ... China should not give Russia any weapons ... that Ukraine is not getting from other nations ... sad ... but true ...
The Russian army collapsed in 1917, in 1920 around Warsaw, in 1855 in Crimea, in 1988 in Afghanistan, in 1905 against Japan. The consequences were different each time.
@@DieFlabbergast In 1943 the Russian army was defending its territory, and was helped massively by the US Lend Lease. Today it is the opposite.
How would ATACMS cut the land Bridge? Are you guys actually the events or just listening to historians, The Russians are advancing on all fronts , The west does not possess the weapons to defeat Russia whether through proxy or in a direct confrontation. What no one is talking about is how Russia would fight if they were not fighting their brothers and I am talking about blood brothers. In other words how they would practically stop the Russians if they decided to escalate.
This dude is bang on the money ! Back in 1990 (cold War period) i was a young 16 year old Junior Soldier in the British army who was attached to a Regular British Army Battalion (Queens REGIMENT) based in Minden Garrison Germany B.A.O.R ...... What I can remember mostly from the time spent with the Battalion was quite alot of daily classroom intelligence based lectures on how the Russian military had the capability to overcome the whole of Europe in 72hrs ?
So when I see what's playing out in Ukraine atmo there's a huge difference between what the Russian military are actually capable of imho ? But the Guy in this clip is a 100 percent correct as the West are testing there weapons against Russia as a yardstick for sure ?
That's cause the Soviet military heavy duty brigades were Ukranian. Russia on its own doesn't really pack a punch, as you may have noticed. Putin now has....
Russia is not USSR. Been gutted by the oligarchs, alcoholism, incompetence, and a moronic former KGB clerk.
@@canadiangemstones7636 You have a valid point indeed ! It's strange how the Russian government aligned with the so-called Azov Brigade during the USSR years ?
@@telebubba5527 so can you please explain how the Russian Leadership at the Time aligned with the Ideology of Stepan Bandera ?
@@telebubba5527 source: trust me, bro xdddd
Why on earth cant someone get rid of Putin?
Every word of this man is interesting and at the same time, he sketches a grim future. Not only an inevitable collapse of what Putin is chasing, a collapse of Russia's future, but also a scenario that threatens the entire world. He does not say the latter literally, but casts at the end his shadow over this conversation. Please, more Hein Goemans.
Russia is gonna win
@@Sharkoon030 wins what. A destroyed piece of land. Russia already lost more than 200.000 soldiers. No-brainer🤮☠💀
@@trstquint7114 Casualties on Russian side is only according to Ukraine. It hasn't been independently verified by anyone and if such numbers were true the Russian army would cease to function. You surely can't be that naive
Most sense I've heard since this war started.
This is a very dangerous situation for desperate war mongers with nuclear weapons
not at all. Ru is not a jihai sucidal or even merely self destructive! It wants to survive and it's been warned in private by the US that if a single WMD is set off, Ru will lose much of its military by a coalition's use of conventional military power that will pick off a ton of Ru assets , one, by one, by one. This is attrition and war. Ru has no power, of any type. Ru/ussr has always been a paper tiger, a deeply anachronistic pathetic last-gasp imperialist nation, overlording over many turkic and central asiatc ppl's. Now Ru is a warlord state with a horde of unprofessional military units that are mostly either actual criminals or criminally orientated.
Good grief. This is the first snippet of CNN I have watched in two years. I see I have not missed a thing. Real insight remains elsewhere.
I'm guessing you just came to this video to leave a snarky comment on CNN, seeing as you say you haven't watched any CNN in two years and provide a comment without any sort of argument. Would you care to elaborate?
real insight is in fox news, right?
Very Insightful! As many have already stated, I would like to hear more from him.
I suggest calling to memory and using brains those who have both. The US created and supported Al-Qaeda, “freedom fighters” who fought soviets in Afghanistan in 1980s. The result was September 11 attack when Al-Qaeda destroyed Twin Tower skyscrapers and 3000 Americans in them. Then the US government supported “freedom fighters” in Chechnya. The result was Boston Marathon bombing. Now the government supports Ukraine’s regime “fighting for freedom and democracy against “Russian aggression”. “Freedom fighters” again? There is nothing to do with democracy in Ukraine. That’s nazi terrorist regime. Generations of politicians in Washington DC come and go, but they still have not learned a simple lesson. Terrorists must not be supported regardless how profitable it cold look in regard to your struggle with a geopolitical opponent. Those who assumed to be useful idiots are not so stupid and sooner or later Ukrainian terrorists will come after Americans. A smart man learns from his own mistakes, but a wise one from mistakes of others. Only a fool is not able to learn from own mistakes. So sad!
considering the station this is on, i wouldn't believe a word he says. RU is using pre WW2 shovels and UA is wining remember!
Rememba
Exactly. So many lies...
Russia is using cavalry and artillery from the Crimea war from the 1800s
Brilliant analysis, thamkyou very much .
CNN has been reduced to "Smear or Fear" and "Hearsay or Opinion" news reports🤣.
CNN has always did it. But we didn't know it til president Trump set them out.
Me tinks
@@mistyblues6218 Well, according to Trump everybody lies but him, any story that is negative about him is fake news and everyone is corrupt but him. This coming from an individual who has been a defendant in over 3,300 separate lawsuits and just recently his organization found guilty of tax fraud and other crimes with a verdict of 17 criminal counts by a jury in New York just a few months ago. And his CFO Weisselberg began serving his time at Rikers Island last month. He's someone who lawmakers in his own party would even say he had a loose relationship with the truth and widely documented by Analysts showing Trump told over 30,000 mistruths - that’s 21 a day - during presidency. A lot of you Americans are seriously high on kool-Ade me tinks
@@davev9214 Way too much MSM propaganda is not goody for you. Me tinks
1 - some wars did not end at a negotiating table.
2 - The Russian army can be defeated in Ukraine, can collapse if morale is low and logistical flows are harassed
3. Ukraine can't win anyway.
@@solderdesolderlol, the GLSDBs are going to thoroughly check the logistic chains, while the Russians are using up their offensive potential for derisory territorial conquests! We can see the result in Vuhledar and Avdiivka !
While thousands of Ukrainians are being trained and equipment is being accumulated, Bradley, Marder, Stryker, Bastion, new Ceasars, new T-72....
@@chrisrobert5252 you will see, Ukraine can't win
1. Very very few post fall of Berlin when a nuclear power is involved as a belligerent, the only one I can think of is the South Africa bush war. Yeah that's right, Ukraine was not the only country in history to give up their nukes.
2. I'm not going to say this is impossible, but I will say it's improbable. To disrupt their logistical flows means bombing targets in and behind the Urals. The Ukrainians don't possess this capability and most likely won't be given these capabilities. Furthermore, even if Ukraine is very well equipped with perfect logistics, they will run out of manpower before the Russians. Total Ukrainian victory would likely only occur in the case of Russian government collapse.... there are zero indicators that this will occur. We've tried sanctions, yet their economy grows slightly still this year.... their debt to GDP is a fraction of our own, and their foreign currency reserves are holding, as is the value of their currency. Russians, as a people, do not overthrow governments that offer relative stability in economic terms.
Lots can happen. But that's of the most unlikely
First CNN report that sounded like real journalism in quite some time. Straightforward. Too short however.
The US/UK/EU anti-Putin, anti-Russia demonising has been cranked up to max since Russia intervened in Syria, a full year after the U.S. was supposedly bombing ISIS. Instead, the U.S. was protecting ISIS convoys of stolen oil, convoys of ISIS fighters and weaponry, etc. Without Russia, Syria would now be ruled by the duped head-chopping proxies of the U.S., U.K. etc. Then, the U.S. and U.K. would get public support to invade Syria. The US still illegally controls 80% of Syria's oil fields.
Finally, someone speaking out of facts and past experience/history.
None bias 💯 pure insightfull information 👌
Facts on CNN?😂😂😂😂😂
Finally, someone speaking truth and logic, and not propaganda.
😂😂😂lies y’all believe anything
From CNN lol
@@mand7985 Educate us.
@@flyer3455 three letters CNN
@@mand7985 the man is not a CNN news correspondent. I watch everything and try to get the "truth" that way. Fox, CNN, BBC, AP, and any other source.
Both CNN and FOX have had their own scandals. FOX's is the most recent. I mean you had the network pushing the election conspiracy when Tucker and Hannity thought it was BS. With CNN you had the Cuomo scandal and don't forget Donna Brasil feeding debate questions to Hillary in 2016.
You cannot simply write something off as a lie because of where it came from. You have to use your brain and evaluate it for yourself. In this case, it's an academic opinion. You can take it or leave it. The man was objective and used logic. It's not meant to be fact. He's giving an informed opinion.
Really nice and interesting interview, he truly knows what he is talkong about
2/25/2023
In university I learned from my history major colleagues was that historians do not predict.
the type of guests we need on the news.