Alone what it’s like at rabbitstick
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- Опубліковано 11 лис 2016
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This is a long and in dept discussion with some of the people from Alone that were at Rabbitstick 2016. Treat this one like a podcast because it is long but really worth it.
Nicole Apelian
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Larry Robberts
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Samuel Larson
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What we do know about Alone is that the program is set up (time of year and locations) for the contestants to start starving pretty early in order to keep the length of time in the wild to a minimum. And as a result you don't need much in the way of bushcraft to make it for that relatively short period of time. This was clearly pointed out with Sam in two seasons as well as Britt for two seasons. Neither of these men had much in the way of Bushcraft or survival skills yet they lasted much longer than others who had considerably more skills and experience. I could teach anyone who had simple camping experience what they needed to do well on the show in about a day of training. As pointed out the mental side is more important. The majority of women who have appeared on the show really impressed me with their mental toughness. They were as a group much more stable then the men. Winning the show amounts to luck (big game) and mental toughness with Bushcraft being a very distant requirement. The only reason a woman hasn't won the show is a lack of luck in bagging big game and coming into the game with very low levels of body fat.
'The only cougar that attacked me was in a shopping mall' 🤣 Cracking line from Sam
Sam’s hilarious
none of them even knew to take something so versatile and valuable as the duct tape. I bet none of them knew to fold and tie the ends of the sleeves of the rainsuit and use them as water containers, either. :-) Cut a chunk of tarp and make a poncho out of it. When the season 1 and 2 were given 20x20 tarps, nobody cut theirs into smaller chunks, even tho it was obviously necessary.
They aren't allowed to modify their tarps.
when you keep your shelter portable, you can keep moving it to where the squaw wood is, as vs cutting and hauling big wood where a permanent shelter is. How many made a raised bed, so that they could heat rocks and put them under said bed?
So much wisdom here, thank you. 'Get dirt time!' 'Keep failing better- practise' 'Learn from those who are respected by the tribe' etc.
Man you have so much gold content, some really great questions were asked here!
The culture of reputation and finding a mentor are really great topics, I wish there was a mentor list somewhere kinda thing because it can be scary or not affordable to reach out to people for these skills etc. as you mentioned some of these things can be a little hidden, back door, stuff etc. I am happy that this movement has come so far though, I hope it continues to grow exponentially.
I am grateful for you making and sharing it! 👊🏻🤙🏻
Hey thank you for watching this. It takes a special kind of desire to see value in my channel. I’d happily teach anyone local to me the things i know. I’m certain also that you can get a mentor at Rabbitstick. Respectfully me.
@@TJackSurvival Well I will finally be attending this year! I can’t wait!!! I actually live in the area for the last 7 years for school. Kicking myself hard for not going all the years.
@@KnifeCrazzzzy ya that was a fail. But hope to see you there!
Wow‼️ man you make some nice vids,and what a kind people you meet,really nice to watch👍🏻
I’m super lucky that I live in a really good place
you can keep the belt knife, axe, etc. Give me a Condor E tool, with the saw edge modified to give a real kerf. The other cutting tool is a modified Crunch multitool, with a Silky saw blade to be held in the visegrip of the Crunch. No axe and belt knife combo can come close to doing all that those 2 tools can do. Total weight is about 2 lbs. Chopping is dangerous, noisy, and inefficient, so use the saw, man. A 9" saw blade can down a far bigger tree than you have any need to be cutting. just go around it, 6" deep on all sides, , and then lean on it hard, it will break off. A tree on the ground, you can cut off the smaller limbs and then make the saw cuts as far around as possible, all up and down the trunk and then roll it over. You might need a lever and fulcrum, but that would be a huge tree. Once again, there's no need of such big trees being cut.
On vancouver, they could have juiced the kelp as a carb source, but nobody did. Obvious move, simple to do, but it never occurred to these "experts".
Do you have any idea of how many things they did that didn't make it through editing? How many hours are there in the week? How many minutes did you actually see them doing things on the show? How many projects did you see in the background with no explanation?
they didn't juice the kelp, or they'd have lasted far longer. Ditto making the netting. They couldn't, cause they didn't even know to TAKE the paracord hammock, so that they'd have the inner strands from which to make the netting. They didn't TAKE the slingbow and arrows, and wouldn't know to make or have made, the 4-tined fishing heads. they'd had 2 years to think about this, and did about as "well" as 14 year old boy scouts would have done.
I'm still waiting to see you on the next season of this show. Once you are on it or win it then you will have credibility in my mind. Go forth and conquer!
Oh man. I hated to see this video end!! It was so awesome of you to get this group of fine people together and you asked some really good questions! Two big thumbs up on this!
Hey thanks Stella
they'd rather muck around making bow drill fires and debris shelters than clear 1/4 mill $, so what's that tell you about their judgement?
Why aren't you on the show? You know everything. Don't believe me just ask yourself.
It's too bad we didn't see all that good stuff, not just for the viewer, but doing all of it and having it just disappear is terrible.
Maybe history channel will put together some bits and pieces.
As viewers, we really haven't see any of this, NOR does the viewer ever get the idea that any of it is going on. I hope the show learns from this and does it better next season.
The show 'alone' is not about teaching survival but human drama for the general public.
Ya and that's the problem.
TJack Survival
Sad really. We're airing a series right now on my channel meant to highlight this very thing - to educate first and foremost I doubt we'll feed people with all that drama and get big, but, so be it.
Ya I'm trying to put out reality but reality doesn't sell.
TJack Survival
It's true. We need to add in some scary music and some bears! Maybe even some personal drama, injuries and risky scenarios! LOL
They were given plenty of stuff out of which to make a pontoon outrigger raft (in one day) Yet nobody did, and the lack of a craft really hurt their ability to acquire adequate food. The backpack, the spare set of clothes, the rainsuit, the camera case, the gaiters, chunks of tarp, all can be stuffed with force-dried debris, and sewn/taped to keep out water. Simply spray the inside of one set of clothes with waterproofing. Use a hunk of tarp to make a poncho and you dont need the rainsuit pants. the rainsuit jacket, you need for storing your filtered water.
These are good suggestions.
Nicole tells us in this interview that she repurposed her underwear for char cloth on day 2.
Great vid and all those guys are great.
I'm agree being disappointed by not showing their bush skills.
Unfortunately survival shows aren't about skills but about personal drama.
Which sucks. I'd love to see that change.
There is a massive' Alone:.The Unseen ' that could be harvested: shelters, tools, improvisations etc. I know Woniya Thibeault from S6 is putting out more detailed stuff on what she made and I'd love to see more from these folks too...
I love these discussions. Priceless.
Exactly my thoughts, especially the ending of this one.
great group of individuals right there. hope to see you at wintercount
Thanks!
They could have done SO much better if they'd had sense enough to take the 2 person, 9 strand paracord hammock, unravel it and weave 1200 sq ft of 3" mesh netting out of the inner strands. Ditto if they'd taken a slingbow, and had 4 of the 6 arrows feature 4 tined fishing heads. 3 of those arrowheads can be converted into 24 fishhooks in half a day. Take the 8 treblehooks and use them to catch/drown ducks and gulls. Use the massive amounts of fishheads and guts, caught in the netting, to bait in and arrow hogs (in Patagonia) or bears (vancouver) On vancouver, getting the salt needed to preserve fatty meat is relatively easy. All you have to do is boil off seawater. In Patagonia, you have to extract potassium chloride from hardwood ashes, a much more time-consuming task.
None of that works when it's illegal to hunt bears on a tv show. You have some good ideas but some other not well thought out ideas.
Great stuff!
great video brother, love alone can't wait for season 3 Jose looks like a very tall dude or is it just a the camera angle
No he is pretty tall.
6'2" in case you were wondering, lol.
jose m. amoedo LOL, excellent brother.
@@josem.amoedo8623 you are awesome Jose, it always made me happy when they were zooming in and your name popped up. I was disappointed that we didn't get to see so much about of what you made! All of your skills, and the amazing quality of craftsmanship and detail you put into the things you made, I felt like we really missed out not seeing more of it.
Excellent video by excellent people. Thx!
Thank you William.
I think think it's crazy that Jose caught 75 fish (@ 6:00)....AND couldn't eek it out until the end! That's pretty nuts...but as he says, fish are pretty low calorie. Makes you really wonder how many fish you'd need in order to make it long term. He was pretty much done by the end.
I have to wonder if there's a better way to get fat from fish, like boiling and drinking the water or something like that.
Maybe the type of fish is a factor. From what I have, read bears eat mostly the skin of the salmon for the fat content.
75 fish of what SIZE? that's the issue. A few 300 lb tuna would win it for y ou, right? when those fish weigh 3 ozs, that's the problem.
Cool group- thanks for sharing!
I think so too, and thank you for watching.
When someone asks me how I learned to do what I do at work I say "You have to start to finish... open the software, look at how other people accomplished the goal, then develop your own way". I intentionally left out what I do for work because I think this fits most things. I don't watch tv so I wasn't aware of the show these folks were on but I like them.
Michael Lloyd They are all genuinely down to earth good people and I am lucky to call them friends.
how many kept a fire going by bedding it in ashes for the night?
Probably all of them.
I doubt it, or there'd be much less concern about taking a ferro rod.
No one in this group had that issue. You are confusing episodes.
care and share and and dare,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thank you ,I LIVE IN MIDDLE OF KNOW WHERE,,with healthy springs...kudos and prayers
What a great bunch to sit and talk with
I agree and am privledged.
until they learn to take the 750 paracord hammock and make the 1200 sq ft of 3" netting out of it, they'll all just starve.
So where are the links to there channels
Fixed it my bad!
great video
Thanks!
Was that Kelly Magleby during the intro?
Yep. She's awesome. Lives very close to me.
@@TJackSurvival Ha ha, just saw your answer tonight buddy, it's funny how things come together over time. One of my guys studied under her, when he was over there, and her work has influenced our teaching, concerning primitive pottery.
Australian Survival Instructors She’s a very good friend that I do stuff with probably monthly. She literally lives maybe 10 minutes away from me. Even still I need to make time to learn more from her about pottery. The stars just never line up for that though.
Sam was my favorite from season one of Alone, he comes in 2'nd place at 55 days. But, redemption is so sweet for Sam! Sam won season 5 on Alone by lasting 56 days(?) and beat a very determined Britt! Sam, and his wife, and two little kids will now live their dream, buy a house, a dependable car, and provide for his family. congratulations Sam !
I know! Excellent isn't it.
This is an awesome video! Love it, thank you for making it.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for stopping in on my channel.
You guys are soooo impressive!
Thank you for making this incredible video!
Thanks you for watching it. Please share it with others.
I will
Great video man, I had a blast being a part of this.
You're good people Larry. We need to do more in the future.
Thanks man, and yes we do. I'm game for sure. You going to winter count? I'll be there.
***** I want to but am not sure if I can make it because I'm trying to go to Germany for a bushcraft gathering there. Want to go?
Heck yes!
***** Call me later this week.
Jose is right about you tube and practice. Seeing the level these folks are at and what the accomplished should give everyone pause before applying. I for one would first try a 10 day solo before I ever even sent my name in. Maybe after that and a few miricals of modern medicine and I would consider it. But not today Friends!
In the mean time we can live vicariously huh!
Great video, so much knowledge at one place.
No joke right. I'm going back for sure.
Huh. I have a signed copy of Larry's book.
Better hold on to that. It's irreplaceable.
Tyler I just discovered your videos and I'm loving them
Hey thanks, please share with your friends!
just getting around to see your videos. these are some of my favorite people.I would like to see an Alone special just on the very cutting room floor material they are discussing. all the hunting outtakes, fishing outtake, time lapse on camp building.... thanks for doing this
rybářská vrána that would likely be the most interesting video made
Yes your right T pple do live and experience through youtube vids.
thank you keep up the good work .
Thanks, I agree.
I never saw any reason to bother with stone boiling, making primitive shelter, nor stone or bone tools or bows and arrows, or primitive fishhooks, , or friction fire. You need shelter and bedding that's easily portable, cause you dont want to be stuck in any one place, nor do you want to have to waste half a day building a shelter every time you move, and then another several hours making a raised bed, boiling water, etc. You better just carry a few lbs of modern gear, like a couple of lighters, a water filter, a couple of metal containers, as many more plastic containers, , cause your time is far better spent on learning how to feed yourself if shtf.. You'll starve or freeze to death while you try to do all this stuff from scratch. There's no reason to be out in the bush without proper gear. If you are, you're a fool who wont make it. If you need to forage, so will millions of other people, many of whom will shoot you on sight. So you'll need a silenced autorifle, luminous sights, soft, concealable armor, subsonic ammo, night vision and a solar charger. A few conibear steel traps, some trotlines, and lot of monofilament gillnetting will do a lot more to feed you than any sort of primitive gear, and those items can be serviced at night. You need sense enough to stay out of sight during daylight hours, and dont have fire during the daytime, either. At night, you can have fire on a hilltop, in a dakota pit, long enough to cook your food, but then you'd better move a mile or so for the sleeping part.
Thanks for this Tyler. Great discussion with people whom I love and respect :-).
Agreed exactly!
This could just well be the best video on UA-cam, wow! I can listen to these guys/girls for hours, what a knowledge!
Thanks! It's a long video so most people disregard it, but man does it have amazing information in it. That's why I posted it. Thank you for watching.
The only two things missing is that this should be 10 hours long and I should have been there to see them all in person :). Too bad I live on the other side of the planet... About the whole UA-cam debat, I can understand Jose's point that too many people only watch some videos and then think they know enough to survive/thrive in the wild. For me though, UA-cam has been the kick in the butt I needed to get back out there again. After watching ALL of Maggythegoose's canoeing videos I decided to go on my own adventures, using many of his tips on camp set ups, gear, fire and food, which helped me a bunch. After my first (19 days) solo trip I came back and started looking for other channels and came across Joe Robinet's channel, which then got me to the Alone show. I have now been to Sweden many times for different solo trips including a 23-day solo hike without buying additional food on the way. Now I am actually thinking of following a 1-year primitive course and with that knowledge move to Sweden to live more off the land. Funny how things can make such an impact ;). If you ever speak to Jose again, please feel free to share this :D. I subbed btw, great channel!
I'm actually very happy to hear this. I believe the best way to get people in large cities to get out and experience the wilderness isn't to make scary movies about it, but to make videos like this. There's a lot of crap videos on UA-cam, but there's a lot of quality too. Remember these guys don't watch much UA-cam as they have a lot of experience and jobs that keeps them out in the wild. I have my feet in two worlds however. I am out in the back country every chance I get but I work with computers often. So I see the value of people watching videos but looking hard to find quality. I think I put out quality and tested stuff. I try extremely hard to either show what I absolutely know to be true or to find people to do that for me and film them. Thanks for posting and watching. I'm on a Discovery series video that comes out November 8th called Bushcraft Buil-doff that you should check out.
Outstanding video. A lot of great information.
James Williams it’s great huh
Tyler, Even though I'm 3 years after this video, thanks for making it. I learned about Rabbitstick today when someone mentioned going to it on Instagram. I vaguely remembered hearing the name before, but had no idea what it was. I did some research and found a few videos you put up. I live in Washington state, so it's not too far away. It will not work for me to run out there this week (family stuff), but I'm hoping to make it next year. Now I can plan ahead and save up for it. I appreciate you making these videos.
RETURN to YEHOVAH (the LORD) hey thanks for watching! I can’t make it this year myself. I grew up close to this gathering and didn’t know about it, so I’ve tried to get the word out. I’m glad it’s helpful and hope to see you there next year.
Poorly done. As the facilitator you should have kept the conversation on track. Behind the scenes, which was stated as the intention of the video, talk was about 1/3 of the video.
You're welcome to do your own video. I let them say what they wanted to say so my goal was 100% achieved. Facilitators are the problem and that's why I let them talk about what they wanted.