Reacting to 'Honest Tea Talk' on Marriage, Divorce and Gender Roles
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Ain’t no way Ali still didn’t drop the marriage documentary
still I'm waiting😂😂🤣
F**k the MARRIAGE DOCUMENTARY, why you all idiots worried about his marriage so much?
I was wandering what happened with that
When he announced the marriage documentary I was in primary school, I am now taking my grandkids to primary school. Hurry up man
@@shadznabz5092 no swearing. The documentary is cool thats why
I have a suggestion. When you quote a hadith, please finish it. So that viewers like me can learn.جزاك الله خير
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Well said, references to hadiths should be given.
Buy a book of hadith and read. If they started reading entire Hadith's the show would never finish. If you read you'll end up knowing instantly which hadith they're talking about. I do suggest read the seerah of the prophet muhammad pbuh it'll blow your mind and give you unbelievable knowledge. In sha Allah
@@yesyoureright they aty available online .
Excellent suggestion, however sometimes people forget or have not memorised the whole hadeeth.
You guys misunderstood her point on the polygamy point. she was saying outsider shouldn’t pressure you into polygamy if thats not want youre looking for. they shouldn’t slso assume thats the type of marriage you should only go after. shes didnt say “dont go for polygamy youre better than that” thats how you guys are taking it
@Sam Khan nobody did
@Sam Khan who did that?
@@snowyung9516 you did it so by agreeing with that dumb women who are propagating we should accept women with 5 kids agh
No way a woman with many kids are lucky to get a man
No we get her points and it’s lame
@@risktaker9119 😃why men love changing the religion... I thought always when she remarried the children should go to father but no, they men leave and marry again to younger, forget their children.
Some good, and then some very concerning advice given by Hijab. I am a divorced mom of one. My ex wants nothing to do with our child and doesn't pay maintenance, Alhamdulillah for my family and my work. Even though he was abusive during the marriage, I let my child see him in safe conditions because I know how important it is for a child to know both parents. Of course, if I should remarry in Sha Allah, the first thing I will look out for is someone accepting and loving of my child. So please don't say hurtful things like that. We as Muslim women know that a new husband will not have to maintain our child but there has to be respect across the board. Even though my child is very young, I am raising him to be respectful and responsible in Sha Allah and I would expect my future husband to be the same and rather stay single as you put it than compromise on the above.
Sue him sister, he must at least pay for his child.
@@lavarball7538 you dont know how he lied to my family and I. Came across as a man of Deen, you'll be surprised to know how many men are fooling women like this. It's such a sin! And don't be an animal I had a halal marriage my child was born into Alhamdulillah, shame on you. I'm not the only one who has experienced an absent ex husband/father unfortunately. Make duah for us, instead of judging someone you know nothing about
@@cowardyoutube5297 Jzk for the support sister, may Allah make it easy on us
@@lavarball7538 why are you so butthurt and trying to blame her for everything. and speaking as if you know everything that happened between her and him.
@@lavarball7538 you do know accusing in islam something which is false punishment in the hereafter is, don't you?
My best friend always complained to me about his wife. I could sense he wanted to divorce her. Divorce is the last thing I would advise him. Hence, I told him and his wife should go for marriage counseling, repeatedly.
The sisters are not giving “Fatwa” they’re having a conversation.
I wish we would allow having different perspectives in the community.
I agree with the sisters point of views.
Yes. People are free to express their own personal opinions but the same time, we should try to understand the response of others on our views. No one can express their views and demand others to not comment. :D
They're good but should keep themselves in check though because a conversation might turn into advice in an ambiguous area that needs scholarly knowledge
These ladies if they dont use references they should be boycotted.
They are not giving fatwa but they are giving advice in their videos and we female look to learn from them. I agreed with this reaction
Thank you!!! But now they just want to bash!
Looking in the comments 🙈 Get advice from a licensed muslim marriage counselor. Every marriage is a case by case situation. These are just ordinary people sharing their opinions. Take everything with a grain of salt folks.
Exactly. Good reminder!
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No these are just feminists dressed in hijab using Islam when it suites them.
@@yesyoureright Agreed 100%
@@yesyoureright agreed
As salamualaikum. As a woman who has watched many of the Honest Tea talks, and I absolutely love those sisters for the sake of Allah, I find this very fair and beneficial. I actually agree with your points and this is also a grievance I had with the show, the lack of references or even mentioning Ayat and Hadith, which makes me take some things with a grain of salt. I hope the sisters see this and take it well, I will continue to support, and now I will be watching more of these reaction videos as well in sha Allah. May Allah reward you brothers and put barakah in your channels. Ameen
It’s very dangerous to take knowledge from those who don’t have knowledge. When looking for fatawa or ruling sister make sure u take it from one who has truly studied with evidences
Kindly cotact people like khabib,mike tyson,Pakistani cricketer's, moeen ali,mufti menk,sheikh asim al hakeem ,deen show ,omar suleiman , through social media ,suboor ahmed ,muhammad hijab to help in order to release Aafia Siddiqui .it will be easy to release aafia siddiqui and stand for her justice and ask common people to support too cause prostest is not working .we have to ask famous muslims. all the wolrld to take actions for aafia siddiqui and other muslims in detention and prison who are innocent .may Allah reward you abundantly for helping other muslims
@Tahmid Alpha12 whose red pillers
@Tahmid Alpha12 I’ve seen but I don’t what it is. Pleas explain and don’t mock or insult me
@@hamzaahmed5436 it's better you don't know. Don't even ask, stay away from them red pillers and say alhamdulillah
As a woman myself, I agree with what you're saying. If it's something personal and wants to share on experience it's fine to talk with friends but the fact that some Muslim women might use it as reference is very dangerous. Not only it can bring wrongful ideas, the sisters may actually be sinning for spreading misinformation instead of the intended Islamic da'wah since it affects the mass. I completely agree with bringing a sister who is knowledgeable in Fiqh, Hadith, Quran, and etc. It's too dangerous to simply say "hey I had that feelings/experience too so what I did was" instead of a proper guidance and rules that has been set in Islam, the others who are less knowledgeable will make them their model and think that's how a Muslim women should do and spreads to others. It's scary how misinformation can be and scarier when they think it's true. Definitely one of the biggest problem in Muslim community these days is the mix of secular ideas with Shari'ah in order to fit in with the secular community.
I may not be married yet but I utterly hate the idea of leaving a man just because of falling out of love that Western movies has been propagating because it just shows that they're not taking responsibilities more than feelings. Feelings are important yes and both sides need to show effort in each other but if they simply say "hey I don't feel like I love you anymore" eventhough the other side has been giving them love, loyalty, and everything that is good, that's just ridiculous. What they're feeling is boredom and uninterested in trying to get to know their partner more. That's it. Love is subjective anyway and an ideal that's been over-romanticised.
1) stop saying as a vvomen, you sound like a BOT 2) split youre paragraphs or chain them BOT
@@theblackswordsmanmikael1238 dude, you done here? get off.
I 100% agree with what you said, sister, I got married last year and today was my anniversary, there have been points where I wasn't feeling attracted to my wife yet she was loving me and being intimate and all that and she has had those times too, but that doesn't mean we should break out, whenever we had those moments, we lay back, talk about how we fell for each other, pray to Allah for barakah, and take a better start, I'd even say that there was a moment when I felt like everything is going to break apart and we came close once more so that we can both feel each other hoping it'll help, and it did.
Alhamdulilah, I consider myself a lucky man for having such a beautiful wife, Islam must never be explained from personal experiences. May Allah make it easy for us. May Allah grant you a loving, caring, and pious husband, sister. Ameen
Those are great points you've raised, This is why I have discussions regarding this with my sisters, marshallah know alot regarding the nature of men.
You can't be married to a goodie two shoes, for shaytaan wears only one shoe. Also a man has to be qawaam, standing/strong. He fills up a woman.
Personally if I had 4 kids I won’t have any problem marrying a man with anther wife if he wants to marry me. Alxamdulillah for Islam ❤️
What happens if he wants to have a 2 some 🤣🤣
@@broteinsheikh s tfu
legally it is permissible of course. however in reality it does not translate well if the man is not responsible, cost of living is high etc. i rather raise my own kids and have a peaceful, drama free life.
@MIKAEL2 responsibility in religion is always relevant. not foolish declaration of one's legal rights but not following up on responsibilities. then you will just be a Muslim man, who is all hat but no cow, as the Texans says.
@MIKAEL2 you would have plenty of hats but not one single cow or goat even. keep barking. lol
I agree with brother Ali not even acknowledging the children their names or that they even exist that's a red flag also,brother hijab you misunderstood some of the things the sisters talked about.
In many ways these sisters are doing work that is a reaction to the lack of emotionally intelligent material available in the Muslim arena; that is why it resonates with sisters and has been “successful”. They have got away with a lack of scholarly reference because sisters were literally screaming from their souls to be heard and understood without being shot down as being ungrateful or lacking sabr. The result is an emotionally charged and liberally influenced conflation of issues and advice. We feel that there is truth in it but we can’t put our finger on the flaws. It is, in summary, unbalanced. Thank you brothers for redressing that imbalance and bringing us back to a more rational and Islamic lens.
So very well said sister! MashAllah!!
Very well said but yea women should just be quite in my opinion on this topic men choose wives so men know what the market is . Market does care about "Emotional Intelligence" as you used this term incorrectly but I get the jist of what you mean . listen to men on what the Market is , Men do not want women with kids or that are not virgins especially in Religious context . It is what it is
@The Alpha i am referring to a culture rather than Islam itself; the culture that exists amongst returnees to Islam in the West in particular where sisters don’t FEEL like they are being heard because they are being shutdown and selectively guilt tripped with specific ayat and ahadith to keep us quiet. Sadly this just creates a pressure cooker of a situation waiting to blow. Needless to say, Islam addresses ALL of our human needs but we are not applying things in a balanced way. That is based upon my experience. Perhaps yours is different……
@@sarahschwarz9972 In other words, you're defending ungratefulness and disobedience.
@MIKAEL2 Speak kindly to other Muslims. Is this how the prophet (a.s) talked to other Muslims? Called them rejects or wicked or demons? If you have a rational argument you can make it with polite speech rather than this hateful mess. Are you saying that Islam is incomplete that it doesn't address all human needs?
This is exactly why Honest Tea Talk is so needed in the community. May Allah bless the work of our sisters.
Ameeen
Did you understand what the brothers in this video talking about? I think you're way out of the place lol
They're not saying what the sisters are doing it good, they're saying the sisters are making mistakes unknowingly when giving their opinion in the subject
Not much good comes when women gather together and blabber...I say this as women myself.
@@Naallaa you hit the nail on the head but I can’t say that because I am a man. But my marriage is broken because of this talking. My three beautiful children.
@@Naallaa maybe because you’re one of them who blabber
I think Ali is trying to understand their perspective more and trying to brink their actual intentions into perspective.
Muhammad hijab has the wrong Islamic perspective of women’s duties in Islam he mixes it with his cultural beliefs I have seen this in another video he did . He wrongly
States women must do house work according to Islam but thats not correct according to Islam . She does so out of love. She does it because they aren’t rich and can’t afford outside help. She does it because she does childcare anyway so it makes sense . But is it fard on her? no . Is she sinning if she states I can’t do this get outside help please, actually she’s not sinning especially if he can easily afford it .
I say this as a mother,wife, carer to in law and homeschooling parent who does all the domestic chores and always has . I think Ali Dawah is not so influenced by his cultural beliefs so he doesn’t share the same view .
@@luluah1198 women must do house woke if the man needs it from her. You want the man to do outside work and come and do inside work?
@@luluah1198 agree. culture needs to stay out of it when it comes to islam.
@@luluah1198 With that view, the man only has to do the bare minimum for her, e.g provide a roof over her head, give her 1 set of clothes a year and really basic food for her to get through it.
But he also gives her luxuries to give her happiness, it's a two player game.
If you want the husband to come home after work and do all the housework, you are asking for heavy consequences in your marriage.
Even when Fatima R.A asked our Prophet Peace be upon Him for find help with house work he didn't say why are you doing housework it isn't fard on you. He said recite tasbeeh it is better.
@ Lu’luah. Don’t speak without knowledge and spread your wrong interpretation to other muslims. I believe the last comment before me gave a worthy reply to yours. So reply to that if you can.
Can Ali never be right ? In my opinion, Hijab thinks his commentary is the one that is correct for every clip. In my opinion , Ali’s opinions and commentary for the most part was spot on and it seems like he understood what the women were trying to say. Hijab keeps interjecting and he is just looking for a way to counter and look for issues in each clip. Which is dangerous. And hypocritical because Hijab talked in the past about people who did stuff like this.
Also, the correct thing for you to do is to talk to them personally yourselves. That would have been the lesser of two evils. I think here you caused more harm than good. You can tell by the comments of some of these men, you are egging them on and allowing them to support their view that women should not be able to speak on women’s issues.
I think your feedback is interesting although as a Muslimah I have to say that I really appreciate their review of this series because women like myself can easily fall for emotional arguments and abandon the rigour and framework that we are supposed to use in deen matters. While I enjoyed HTT, there was something lacking that I couldn’t put my finger on and Hijab and Ali have helped me to put things into perspective.
Completely agree
@@sarahschwarz9972 the lacking part was explaining that a good man = not qawam (no ability to stand). The lacking part was someone to tie the Quran to each of what they were saying.
Qawaam from Quran 4:34, the root refers to standing, it also refers to girth ie strength. A good man also refers to goodie two shoes, a reference to a goodie ie a goodwife. Or as per the story of a orphaned girl who was good and had only one shoe then was given a second pair and then married a rich widower and was said to have been rewarded for her good deeds. When a man becomes a goodie, he's not really being a qawaam.
Imam bukhari once knocked outside a man's house, the man rushed to the door, he managed to only put one shoe for some reason, when he opened the door, imam bukhari said he would not take Hadith from someone who did not do justice to his feet. It is also heard that shaytaan walks with one shoe and the barefoot.
A man who makes a woman feel empty is no better than a woman. It's like when I drink the tap water, and it makes me feel like I only drunk air. So bottled water it is for me or a water softener.
I don't see the hostility you're seeing. It’s s just they're not in an echo chamber and they're fine with disagreeing with one another. I'm sure there are no hard feelings between them. You're just reading into it too much.
The sisters made a video, which is ofcourse public, so it only makes sense that the response should be public to fix the damage.
Only get an Islamic nikkah not a civil marriage. Under civil marriage, the woman can get divorced according to the civil courts just as easily as you can and doesn’t need to request a khula. The woman can get a “divorce” for whatever reason she wants in civil marriage, even if she cheated and decided to run off with another man since that’s not against western laws. And even if she cheated, the western courts order the husband to pay her large amounts of money and sometimes even give her the house. There are so many depressed and financially crippled men out there due to the western divorce courts. Only get Islamic nikkah and don’t agree to the unislamic conditions of a civil marriage.
Wait there's such things???? That's very unfair :0 I'm not from the west so I didn't know that. Very interesting.
Western laws not fair on men . Ok but let's not deny Islamic laws r unfair on women!!!!!!
@@butterfly-py2tx One of the islamic rulings is that if a woman works and she earns money, its her money and a man cannot touch her money. But a man is obliged to provide for the family and the wife has the right to ask her husband for money.
@The Alpha nope most muslim vvomen do not like shariah... its common..... but you want to call everyone troll. ur far from reality. keep up with the velocity. loser
@@Erec07 Islam is male centric you cant deny this.... it does give more rights to men and thats better. thats how it should be....
As a single Muslim man I'm mentally exhausted with today's women. We have so many divorced women with kids today it's insane. If the man is good, doesn't abuse you but you feel empty, maybe address THAT instead of leaving, especially if you have kids. You're literally walking away from half of your Deen towards something that's disliked by Allah and at the very top of the things the shaiyaan loves (divorce). Marriage is WORK. You reap what you sew.
So many women today have unrealistic requirements and expectations. May Allah help us.
ameen. good point
May allah give you a good wife soon inshallah.
irrelevant, either a new generation of vvomen come or we go to war. only good outcomes from here on out. in the meantime slay daemon bruh.
And absolutely nothing to offer
Same. I’m not even interested in these women today.
I feel like Hijab is reading too much into what they are saying, like things are not even there. Mixing different points together.
I mostly agree with Ali he has a more level headed and holistic view. He has a better understanding of what they are saying or trying to say, better listening skills probably. He acknowledges and tries to understand the scenario and applies the Islamic perspective to it. Rather than bashing them for being human and having feelings.
I feel like Hijab is cherry picking certain words and seeing something that isn't there.
Just a penny for my thoughts.
I agree. Sometimes hijab goes too off into the deep end when it’s not necessary. While I don’t agree with everything the sisters said I also don’t think a lot of the criticism that hijab gave them was needed
i think what hes saying is necessary since certain matters are just THAT deep, people need to hear the depths of the discussion. i don't hear the cherry picking at all. i agree with him on all the matters it's really not nit-picking it's a good review imo since there's more to learn of how we should talk about these deep islamic matters
@@teeeee288
I agree certain things should be discussed that he mentioned however that was not what those ladies were referring to. For example he connected lower standards with polygamy which what not the connection the women were making. She was stating that a person's preference for monogamy should not be made to change just because men don't like divorced women and the idea that only polygamous men would marry them. A woman divorced or not, should not be made to "settle". Its not about standards but about preference. There's nothing wrong with polygamy, the women weren't saying that but that's was Hijab was insituating, maybe that's what he understood from what they were saying but that's not correct. They acknowledged polygamy by referring to Sahabah and Prophet Muhammad pbuh but they meant that not every woman is right for that, they wouldn't be comfortable with it and that's okay.
That's just one example that I can explain clearly.
If Hijab was talking generally and not in response to these women, then I would I agree with him but in this case, he was seeing things that weren't there.
@@rabrab6178 she will eventually have to settle because time flies and because age works against her. The women love to talk shit as they did in another video on polygamy. lots of women find themselves in bad situations because somehow they shouldn't "settle"
Exactly!
The sister was implying that as a single mother or a divorcee you shouldn’t lower your standards by accepting polygamy but then she also said that the companions of the prophet rushed to Mary divorcees and single mothers while being married already. .. so is she saying those women Sahabas lowered their standards in order to be married again..????
Forgive her. The sister is braindead.
the lying trash talk show is all about projection, nothing to do with religion.....
That's not what she said. She said that some might prefer polygyny and some might not. But if she doesn't want polygyny that it is not fair to have to give that up as a standard for herself just because she is a divorcee or widowed.
The Sahaba women married them because they wanted to. Not because it would be the only chance at getting married. That's a very big difference.
@@m.4523 did aisha want to marry the prophet ? answer this question ?
we are not disputing what standards widows or divorcee can have, we are disputing that we are not going to marry these vvomen......
@@hanzo7616 great manners you got there!
i felt in this video you were biased , some valid points they made you paint them with feminist agenda Sorry but you need to be more unbiased bro such issues exist in society you cant ignore them by just saying feminist agenda etc
Couldn’t agree more, the sisters had valid points that hijab simply dismissed. Ali was more level headed in his approach which helped alot
I get strong misogynistic vibes from these guys. There are definitely some aspects of feminism that I disagree with but to dismiss actual problems in our society related to women is just ignorance on their part. You can be a good muslim man and acknowledge the inequalities women face in our society. They might not have witnessed it or seen it in their family but it doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
@Bs sS having an opinion different to theirs doesnt make me a good muslim??? Is that what youre trying to say??? Are they high and above that if I dont support their beliefs I’m not a good muslim? What are you on? They can be unsupportive of their muslim sisters and you dont see a problem in that but me not supporting them makes me a bad muslim? You sound delusional.
@@yahussain1272 Were tf did you learn English?
@@EpikMunk its spelt *Where* dumbass, you would know if you learned english yourself.
Yes family unit is under attack, its better scholars give absolutely unbiased academic references
Scholars have been sleeping for years.
@Aylah Aysha sister there is a saying in English- if you made the bed then you sleep in it. You didn’t have grievances when you were tying the knot with him( and vice versa) hence make choices wisely. You are responsible for the choices you make sister. SubhanAllah, matters should be settled between the two parties or through a proper unbiased marriage counsellor. It’s not rocket science
@Aylah Aysha why have you written more useless paragraphs.... implementation of shariah solves all these issues. I mentioned this but you are an insubordinate repulsive daemon...
@Aylah Aysha Ittaqillah sister. Personally I don’t think these topics should be taken so lightly. It’s not like your talking about where your going on holiday next? As the duaat concluded, they should make it clear again and again these are just ‘discussions’ and not their advice on how to conclude matters.
@Aylah Aysha have you ever wondered why it’s so easy to walk away from a marriage? In my day of something was broken you would fix it not just get a new one. 😒
Brother hijab, you really need to reevaluate your mindset. It is absolutely understandable to implement islamic solutions for problems, but sometimes you have to use reason and logic like brother Ali did in some parts.
Advising divorced women that polygamy might be the only option for them, whilst also telling them their children may be ‘inconvenient’ for some men is disgusting and shameful.
You also telling women that they need to play their roles, whilst dismissing how ignorant men can be on their part tells me that you are encouraging the oppression of women, and that not acceptable even within the remit of islam.
I believe the sisters on honest tea talk discuss the thinking of our brothers and sisters in todays generation, and it is beneficial to understand this from a different angle. These are issues men like you will never fathom because you will never have to go through it.
So humble yourself and have respect for everyone, you’re no better than anyone.
Your a idiot he said nothing wrong you misunderstood everything. You said hijab wasn’t using logic and reason because you didn’t agree with him. You claim Islamic solutions don’t use logic and reasoning but most Islamic solutions happen to be the most logical solution accounting for every variable. Can you explain how you think hijabs statements are logically flawed??? You said it was shameful to say men may find inconvenience in a woman’s children? When the reality is men have to have to provide for the wife and kids it’s natural for them to want to start their own family and someone else’s kids will make it harder to provide for your own. Many men aren’t financially capable to do that and take that into account. Women do the same.
This is so healthy and Allah and his prophet SCW is in the conversation . Good job guys Allahuma barak this should be all interactions in our community.
Thank you for making this video. I supported the channel in the beginning because I loved the idea but I soon realized it wasn’t for me and I couldn’t identify with the feminist, “women empowerment” message. It’s very rare to find a space for traditional Muslim women who don’t want to be a “badass business woman” and “strong willed.” It’s just not me.
So many Muslim women spaces really downplay and look down on those of us who love staying at home and taking care of our families. A woman’s home is her domain and she is a queen in that environment. I would much rather obey my husband and break a sweat taking care of my kids and household than listening to a random “boss” man in an office job. We should be celebrating the tradition and history of women’s inner spaces and hobbies such as cooking, mending, sewing, cleaning, decorating, writing, teaching and appreciate the beauty of maintaining a home and raising children as one’s main goal.
I love the idea of sisterhood and women teaching other women the deen and how to be proper Muslim women, wives and mothers, but unfortunately that information is very much lacking and I’m looked at with pity/disgust when I look for that type of community. My husbands family in the Middle East has a MUCH more favorable view of traditional women and teaching women these values and it’s making hijrah out of the west look better and better lol
as a child of immigrants I also want to make hijra insha Allah
@@Summer-oz6mg when you making jihra you have to consider other things such us ( economy, health, education) developing countries they have a lot of struggles
As somebody who was married for a few years and a homemaker for the entirety of it, then having to choose a teaching career as result of divorce. I would say that I would happily go back to being a homemaker when Allah decrees remarriage. Overburdening oneself with responsibilities Allah Subhana wa ta’ala hasn’t placed on them isn’t rational nor should benefiting another’s company, business or children come at the cost of compromising the mandatory role of a wife or a mother. These brothers are knowledgeable and doing great work. May Allah keep them steadfast. However, I would also like to state that there is an epidemic of men who don’t act like the men referred to as qawwam, so while there are sisters who are on board with feminism, there are others who are frustrated because they want men to behave like real men.
Totally agree.
i think dat really depends on the situation or context. Some places the cost of living is high, it needs both men and women to work. And women can do this with the support of reliable domestic helper and family. Secondly, some women are in rare professions and require to be practitioners in that field that needs them to be at work. Thirdly, some women who took time to care for the children may want to return to work after their children no longer need them as much. I think this means there are choices for women. As for society looking down on such women, I feel you. I have been called names for making such choices but I do not have any regrets. I think we should be syukur that we have opportunities to spend time for our family and many women do not have such an opportunity. I will not judge others for making different choices than me. Those who do, they have their own unresolved issues. For me, I delight in supporting women making choices that are right for them and their family. Everyone has their own struggles. There is no one ideal option.
You might need to reupload this, the resolution is pretty bad, might've compressed while uploading.
Sometimes in the first hour of upload, esp for longer vids, the quality takes a while to load and offer higher resolution
@@aphr0d ahh I see, thanks. We'll see, I hope its that cus the quality's rlly bad
@@MsStormdust it's still bad
@@aphr0d still bad 4 hours later blud
@@Kakeshii 6 hours later, still bad :(
While the overall point of this video was positive and had its intentions in the right place, as a woman who has watched Honest Tea Talk and then watched your take on it - I find that you guys in your attempt to give constructive criticism, have over looked the nuances and the finer points the women were trying to make.
Mohammed Hijab in particular, I respect your work and your very vast vocabulary for sure, but I felt that you may not have fully understood what the women were trying to communicate. Of course, since video channels involve speech rather than writing, we as humans are bound to make errors. But these should be taken in the larger context of the point the women were making.
I felt that Ali was more perceptive in understanding where the women were coming from rather than simply focusing on what they were just saying. I also felt Ali got cut off a lot. 🙈 I know you have a lot of things to say Hijab and they are wonderfully useful and important, but so does Ali and I really wanted to hear many of the points he was trying to put forth. I am sure you guys can work this out. ✨
I strongly think the Trio from HTT were not encouraging divorcees to actively disregard polygynous marriages. They were simply making the very wise point that, just because a woman is a divorcee or a widow, does not mean that she should only seek a fellow divorcé, widower or a man who is already married. They were saying that is is completely okay to marry someone who may have never married before as well. They in no way indicated that it is any less honourable to marry a divorcé, widower or enter a polygynous dynamic.
While your advice to quote from our Islamic sources is very valid, I also urge you to see that their approach is very different from yours. You go by historic evidence and rules and rulings and laws. And while the Trio strongly believe in these as well, their show is more of an exploration of struggles that women go through when these rules and rulings and laws are being misused or blatantly ignored even. This show is a way of showing women that their Islamic rights and responsibilities can and do empower them and when men (and women) seek to oppress women, the outcomes can be destructive to everyone involved.
The HTT is more than that, the jihad to understand ourselves and let each other know, that we are not alone in our fears or strengths.
I hope you see that Hijab, and I can’t wait to see your Pod cast with Jordan Peterson soon. May Allah bless you guys. ✨
I totally agree. ..I watched Almost every single episode of HTT and Hijab was not reflecting what they were saying .Ali sometimes got the real meaning of their talk.
Exactly. Some of their statements were taken out of context. I want to see these two here and the trio from Honesty talk to have a segment.
Absolutely agree
Hats off for how reasonable, respectful and well-versed you guys are. If I was in these sisters' shoes, I would be very grateful and embrace your advise 100%. Very much needed!
Underrated channel you have, AllahummaBaarik. I'm learning German and this helps me incorporate Islamic vocabulary into my speech. JazakAllahKhair.
@@pursueexcellence7737 MashaAllah, very glad to hear that! We will publish a video series of br. Hijab in the next few days inshaAllah, I hope it will be just as beneficial for you! :)
This is the advice if they have any good-
*Prophet(S) warned,* “After me, I have not left any *fitna(trial)* more *sever* to men, than *women."*
[Bukhari: 5096]
*Women on any media, anything public, or any public showing-*
* * * *Most Authentic Ruling:* * * *
*ONLY if she has something important,*
*#* that *males can not* deliver
*#* curtain/screen indoor
*#* *full* cover when outside
*#* *no* inviting clothing or attitude
*#* *upright* voice/tone
Watching, Learning, Reading, Writing, Posting;
*from behind the screen*-
permissible.
These sort of
*halal-chickens*
are
*giggling-polluting*
everywhere
on the internet nowadays-
ua-cam.com/video/vsm8fA7bZcA/v-deo.html
*Must be stopped.*
@@The_Chairperson you're promoting them. You should probably take down the link because you're sending traffic their way
as a young woman myself , these days i feel like a failure and pressured to make money on my own and be '' financially independent'' to be considered strong and ''successful'' , it became very popular on social media for rich women with a large following to spread these ideas . what boderz me most is the society is starting to accept this narrative expecting women to provide income for the family too. forgetting about what a family is actually supposed to be , a child doesn't care about how much money you make he needs your presence , love and care .
Most of those women who spread those ideas on social media are prostitutes.
May Allah make it easy for you in your environment. The duty to provide is empowering on men, not women.
Learn about Islam and ask: what does Allah want from me? These women above clearly have no education and don't know what they are talking about in all honesty
Forget about today's society and today's people talking about how women are supposed to be.
They know that the way of destroying communities is attacking their women.
Don't doubt yourself, you are not doing anything wrong, find a great husband, someone who will take care of you, be a great wife to him and a great mother to your children Insha'Allah, and you would be a complete woman, wife and mother.
Nothing to be ashamed of, this in itself is already a GREAT task.
ua-cam.com/video/ty6CfUEmpg8/v-deo.html
How to stop sexual thoughts.
Masha'Allah this was really respectful and to-the-point discourse. I still love Honest Tea Talk of course, this kind of peer review is great.
tea talk is trash.
@@theblackswordsmanmikael1238 based.
@@theblackswordsmanmikael1238 it’s just isn’t tho 🙄
@@blueflame3531 he is a non muslim
Tea talk is baiase and have feminist views
Salam aleykom. You have lots of valid points but Regarding to what the sisters said about polygami I dont think they mean it is degrading to women. What they are pointing out is that some women dont want to live in polygami but the muslim society make them feel like they have to accept that lifestyle because they are seen as damaged goods. And it is true that a lot of muslim men look at it that way. Regarding to the red flags as a woman with children it is important to women that a man they let into their lives can be good to their children.
I really love the sisters channel honest tea talk and can take whats good and have a mature view and not take anything literally but I do appreciate your critique because there are sisters who sometimes are not mature enough to filter such information and then, as you said, somethings they say can lead to harm if the listener is not reasonable
If a woman marries again she has to give the children back to the husband.
The laugh at the beginning 😂 Hijab has the most contagious laugh ever
Far more contagious than COVID-19 🤣
@@zaeidanis not the new mutation though🤣🤣
Hijabs laugh😴😴😴😴😴
@@zaeidanis the hijab-10 strain 😂
He does MashaAllah 😂
I really like Hijab and Ali Dawah’s interjections and disagreements here. They both compliment each other well in bringing a mature and fair perspective in.
I agree with Ali about kids from another marriage. Plus it can be hurtful for kids when the mother disregards the kids for the second husband, they still need a place in the mother’s life and the step-father should have some regard for them.
Asalamu alaikum, I really appreciate and respect all your works and opinions, but I have to take issue with one thing about your video on the sisters. You are judging their format, a talk show about women, as if it were meant to be a scholarly work. Of course these sisters can make mistakes, but to be fair they are not presenting themselves as scholars or the like. The show seems to aim to be informal and casual, and not a source of fatwa or a religious authority.
Overall I listen to you brother because I benefit greatly. But I do think it’s hard for Muslim men to put themselves in Muslim women’s shoes, and understand their perspective on this world we are living in today .
Exactly 👌🏾
Precisely!
completely agree with this HTT is literally a channel of conversation and casual discussion that is grounded heavily on emotional intellect and empathy the channel in no way claimed to be one to abstract fatwas from. saying that the women who present the conversations are some of the most intelligent, spiritual articulate and grounded women I've seen I think their work is so valid and needed especially for our sisters they need women like this speaking on their behalf bringing to light issues in our communities from a female perspective which is almost always oveerlooked and undervalued in our communities I don't understand how anyone could have a problem with the channel their work is amazing mash'allah may Allah reward them
It doesn’t matter if they aren’t coming on as scholars , they are speaking about the deen of Allah on a public platform with a following
But there giving advice to the sisters. If you're giving advice and that's not inline with Islam it can be very distractive. It can destroy many people lives. I do think this type fair review can help them more.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree, if a guy doesn't want to be involved with a person that has kids why is he wasting her time? HE has to be ready to accept the kids if he is getting to know her especially when he has his own kids. Yes he has his rights to say he doesn't want that but shouldn't he mention that from the get go? Of course its a red flag if you disregard the child.
The mother has more right to custody of her children before the age of seven so long as she does not remarry, in which case the right passes to the one who is most entitled to that after her, because Ahmad (6707) and Abu Dawood (2276) narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr that a woman said: “O Messenger of Allaah, my womb was a vessel for this son of mine and my breasts gave him (milk) to drink, and my lap was a refuge for him, but now his father has divorced me and he wants to take him away from me.” The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to her: “You have more right to him so long as you do not remarry.”
Kids have to go to the father. Not be with a strange man.
@@blueflame3531 some fathers don’t want the kids to be part of their lives. These men that have kids from previous marriages have them living with the mothers. That’s how it is in the U.K.
@@vlogsw_ayesha no matter what man comes into the divorced womans life, if that man is not related to the children, IT IS NOT HIS RESPONSIBILITY. its good to do Allah will reward, but The issue of rights remain.
@@abduljabbar1987 I am not saying it’s his responsibility but when you are getting to know a women who has children they aren’t kids you can pawn of to your ex because it’s not convenient. It’s easier for men to remarry after having kids because they don’t take the responsibility of raising and providing for their kids. I think you all are missing the point here.
Men should accept a woman’s responsibility will be to her kids. If he doesn’t want to provide for her kids that’s fine and she should accept that but if he loves her then he would do it as it’s the right thing to do. It would be the same if a child was an orphan.
Loved when they were disagreeing at 26mins it's refreshing seeing two people sharing different ideas. May Allah bless them
I agree with alot you've said but I do think you misunderstood them on some of these points
for example here 36:13 to me the sister was speaking about a man coming into your family and shushing your kids in the sense that he silences them as children and acts like a dictator not telling them to be quiet if they are disruptive but shutting down their self expression more so (throws off the balance and are uptight) to me it wasnt about the ability of the new step father to discipline but the ofcourse wallahu a’lam.
I do agree with your point but their point is also valid. It's just they're taking what the women are saying literally which DO happen. But I hope they keep that in mind as well and I think they would understand if proper terms are used because most men aren't good with flowery/indirect words.
This idea that a shushing that is "shutting down their self expression" is a highly subjective, very ambigous and frankly very deceptive statement. Sisters can interprit a "shushing" in many ways.
I guarantee you more sisters will see a step-father's shushing limiting the children self expression than biological fathers shushing. The main thing is that sisters have every right to feel how they want, but a guy should also be able to protect himself in the eyes of the law of the country and under the sharia. If that means he desires to have the children with their biological father while he spends time with his wife. I think that is a very acceptable, respectful and responsible request.
In my understanding Islamically a man has no rights over another mans children. So it should be the mothers impertive and to a certain extent, responsibility that the children are being taken care of by both of their parents.
@@taj-sid Not sure how it’s deceptive.Loaded or subjective maybe but not deceptive. By self expression in the sense of the old adage ‘children should be seen and not heard’ some people have that mentality and would rather children are just out of the way when in the home or are sitting somewhere reading quietly or watching tv for hours on end.In truth children especially when small run and laugh and play in their homes and I think some people have less patience for this reality than others so they may want to control this behaviour.I agree I think when it comes to kids islamically the conditions for custody should be respected and that children should spend a good amount of time with their father.Step parents male or female need to be allowed to have some time with their spouse especially early on and rights to discipline should be extended to them and expectations communicated between everyone but never physical ofcourse.And Allah knows best.
This is the problem they will SEE what they WANT to see this is why we have honest tea talk!!
@@aissatoudieng6653 I think it’s just men and women having different ways to communicate more so.Men are more literal.
MashaAllah this was very good, may Allah bless you all. But I also have some commentary on your commentary.
As a woman who listened to these videos. For the first one, they were not giving advice. They were stating exactly what many women go through. But they didn’t give advice nor were they telling anyone to leave their husband. They were simply speaking truth, bc many women in our communities talk about things like this.
For the second clip video you showed, they were absolutely correct, it is a red flag in my opinion. I think it depends on what you want in a spouse for both men and women. When I had a sit down and when I heard “will they live with their father” he really did mean, he didn’t want anything to do with them. Because that’s what he said. And to me that can be a red flag and I can decide not to marry him and as for the man, he needs to find a woman who do not have children. Or who kids fully go to their father. So I feel like this was OKAY for them to say this say and it is a matter of preference
And the last clip you showed, I think this is just the difference between men and women language. This is based on how men hear it and how women hear it. They are talking about choosing a man wisely, because he may not want anything to do with your children or even care for them. And then he will come in and be oppressive to the children, that’s what she means by “shush” them. There is nothing wrong with a man disciplining her children, I’m all for that. But if he is being oppressive and unfair just because he is not use to having children or because they are not his children. This can be very hard to deal with. In our community there was a man who married a woman, and the first night , he locked her children in the attic and made them stay there all night, told them not to make any noise and then he hit their mother and forced himself on her. When he was sleep she escaped and got her children.
For situations like this, this is why you have to listen to these types of red flags.
However, I do agree with you guys that it is always good to have someone of knowledge sit in with them or listen to their videos so that they can make sure that they are giving correct advice or talks. But I think you guys also should maybe reach out to them and communicate with them about certain topics in their videos to get a better understanding. Because your experience as men are different from women’s experiences, and you may be misunderstanding or misinterpreting their message.
Lastly I agreed with the second clip you showed. I think they should also push for women to be women and be wives and tell the men that they have to care for them because he is the provider and maintainer. And That it’s okay for women to work and own businesses but also don’t dive into the realms of feminism.
"he didn’t want anything to do with them"
The man has every right to not have anything to do with them. What are you talking about?
@@ehtishamamin5601 duh that’s what I just said. And I said it is a matter of preference. And that it is okay for it to be stated as a red flag. And not go forward. Because for her, that is HER PREFERENCE. And he has his.
@UCzCslJUDd9R1ZWBwEfvHYXQ but there are men who do the same thing. Talk about women and what to look for and what to ask. There are also men who state things which are NOT correct and make videos on it. Stop putting this only on women.
@@ehtishamamin5601 you guys are always putting this on women. My husband told me that a woman literally said to him that she wants allowance if she has to take care of his children or they live with the mother full time. My Husband decided not to marry her, because he could tell she wanted nothing to do with the children. It was a red flag and he decided not to marry her. Because it is his preference to marry someone who loves children and don’t mind taking care of his. And it is her preference to not want anything to do with someone else’s children.
why do you female rejects all write paragraphs, dont write paragraphs. I hate paragraphs you stupid daemon
With all due respect to brother Hijab, this reaction video lacked emotional intelligence.
I felt like brother hijab was nit picking a lot of this
@@watchm8530 His type of response is actually why we need a show like Honest Tea Talk in the first place.
@@Reem-ne7nn found the simp.
@MIKAEL2 that’s very sexist! both types of intelligence are important and vital to society
Absolutely
Wallahi this is so SAD. You are saying (astagfirullah) that Fatima r.a the prophets DAUGHTER, Khadijas DAUGHTER, was a feminist? Because she rejected polygamy? Women have feelings too. I also wanted to add, our prophet peace be upon him himself, was actually the one who said Ali cannot marry another one because the prophet peace be upon him cared about her feelings. You don’t care about your own wife’s feelings? What about your daughter? You can make as much excuses as u want but Allah knows your intentions. Stop saying ‘feminist feminist’. There was a woman who wanted to marry the prophet peace be upon him, but she rejected it, because she was jealous he has other wives and she didn’t like that. What did he(peace be upon him!) do, shame her? Call her feminist? Obey me? No, instead, the marriage was ended. This makes me sick I use to watch Ali dawah but I don’t anymore I had to comment here to spread awareness. I wish the prophet peace be upon him was here.
Marrying one wife is sunnah because the prophet peace be upon him married khadija, and was loyal to her for 25 years. But no one talks about that? Why don’t u follow the prophet peace be upon him? He was loyal to his one wife, but she died. Didn’t cheat on her, didn’t get any other wives. We need to learn the religion. He didn’t marry other wives for lust. It was for political reasons and to get tribes together, etc. Allah knows ur intentions you cannot opress your wives like this.
I just wanted to note women also have desires too. One of the reasons why women cannot have other husbands is because of lineage, not that they don’t like men. Don’t think your desires are more Important than hers. Also most women love attention, if she doesn’t get it from u she will get it from somewhere else.
In the Quran, the wife of al aziz was married and she was going to cheat on her husband, with Yusuf. Yusuf was not even married and still said no. Don’t make this story ‘wow we are not liek him’ or ‘he’s a man’ because later in the surah, Yusuf says himself, that every NAFS (not ‘men’ so men AND WOMEN) inclines towards evil, unless Allah shows them MERCY. Any gender is protected from haram because of Allah’s mercy!! Still don’t believe me? In the QURAN, angel jibraeel comes in a form of a handsome man in Maryam’s room and she says immediately, ‘I seek refuge form ar Rahman’. AGAIN. Going back to mercy.
BECAUSE both genders are protected from haram because Allah’s mercy.
Society is so obsessed with hijab hijab but not men lowering their gaze.
Also if u have trouble in ur marriage why not get counseling, or make dua to Allah? Instead of going to other women
I am not talking about Honest Tea talk. They were just sharing the pains of Muslim women, but men just say ‘feminist’. Poor girls
Fear Allah.
‘If a man has two wives and one of his hearts inclines to the other, then he will be lopsided on the day of judgment’ Hadith of the prophet peace be upon him.
Allah’s says in the Quran just take one wife, it’s better to avoid injustice. THEN he also says, you will never be able to do justice (no matter how much you want to)
This isn’t a light matter, fear Allah.
I also wanted to add you out so much pressure on women but they have to go through so much stuff, like give birth, take care of kids, breastfeed and deal with periods. And then u have the audacity to come here and call her a feminist for sticking up for her rights. When women came to the prophet peace be upon him he never shamed them and called them feminist. SubhanAllah.
We should instead raise men to be like the prophet peace be upon him to khadija. Did we hear anywhere that she had to beg him not to get polygamy? He was so loyal to her. Polygamy is also illegal in many countries and in Islam, u cannot break the law of the land so idk how we can even talk about this. Islam did not invent polygamy. Allah gave Adam one wife to have comfort and company not 10 wives. During the time of the prophet peace be upon him widows and orphans were left from war. What war are u in right now? SubhanAllah. Fear Allah
May Allah bless u all.
Before I respond, I know most of what you learned is from UA-cam and Muslim apologists. None of what you said is Islamically accurate according to traditional Muslim scholars.
Imam al-Ghazali says: "Among the companions were those who had three and four [wives] while those who had two cannot be counted". [Ihya ulum al-deen]
He is saying that marrying 3 and 4 wives was so common among the sahaba, that those sahaba who had 2 wives we cannot even count them because of how few in number they are. Notice how he doesn't even mention the sahaba who had only 1 wife lol. This is because this was even more rare than those who had two wives. So it's not even worth mentioning.
Conclusion: MOST OF THE SAHABA WERE POLYGYNOUS WITH 3 OR 4 WIVES
You said that polygyny was only practised by the Prophet SAW and the sahaba for political reasons and so on. But not sexual desires.
Imam al-Ghazali says: It is preferable for a person with temperament so overcome by [sexual] desire that one woman cannot curb it to have more than one woman, up to four. For God will grant him love and mercy, and will appease his heart by them [women]; if not, replacing them is recommended.
Al-Ghazali says there is nothing wrong with marrying multiple women in polygyny if you have strong sexual desires. In fact, he says this is "preferred" and Allah will bring love and mercy into his heart by them women. And if not, he can replace them.
Conclusion: Polygyny is allowed for men if they need more than one woman in their life sexually as long as he provides for them.
You said that we need to raise more men to be like how the Prophet SAW was to Khadija (RA)
But my question to you is though, do we need to raise more women to be like how Khadija RA was to the Prophet SAW? Or is this one sided for men only?
Because you know Khadija RA married the Prophet SAW when he was poor and had nothing. Khadija (RA) was the breadwinner in the relationship.
Would you advise Muslim women to marry men poorer than them like Khadija RA did?
Of course you won't because you are a hypòcrite.
You said that Ali (RA) was monogamously committed to Fatima (RA). This was not by virtue of her own request though. This was because the Prophet SAW requested him to. There is no prophet alive today to request your husband to honour your request for monogamy. So your husband simply doesn't have to.
Moreover Imam al-Ghazali says: "Seven nights after the death of Fatimah,* 'Ali* got married."
And after Fatima's (RA) death, Ali (RA) also ENGAGED IN POLYGYNY. He married 9 wives after Fatima (not all at once since 4 at one time is only allowed, but this shows even Ali engaged in polygyny after Fatima died ).
@@hanzo7616 I know even non religious men want monogamous relationships. Not every man wants polygamy. You keep forgetting that the prophet peace be upon him married khadija for 25 years and loved her like no other.
You can lust after women and cheat and do polygamy but know that the prophet peace be upon him didn’t teach that. He did it to take care of widows and orphans. And I can Wright on my nikkah contract no polygamy and he has do abide by that. It’s haram to break a contract like that.
Al-Shafi’i, may Allah have mercy on him, said:
وأحب له أن يقتصر على واحدة وإن أبيح له أكثر لِقَوْلِهِ تَعَالَى فَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ أَلا تَعْدِلُوا فَوَاحِدَةً
I prefer a man to limit himself to one wife, even though it is permissible for him to marry more, due to the saying of Allah Almighty: If you fear you will not be just, then only one. (4:3)
Source: al-Bayān fi madhhab al-Imām al-Shāfiʻī 11/189
Al-Shafi’i recommended that a man limit himself to one wife, even though it is permissible for him to marry more, in order to protect himself from wronging them by inclining more to some of them or being unable to spend equally upon them.
Source: al-Ḥāwī al-Kabīr 11/417
And Ibn Qudamah writes:
والأوْلَى أن لا يَزِيدَ على امرأةٍ واحِدَةٍ ذَكَرَه في المُجَرَّدِ لقولِ اللهِ تعالى فَإِنْ خِفْتُمْ أَلَّا تَعْدِلُوا فَوَاحِدَةً ولِقَولِه سُبحانه وَلَنْ تَسْتَطِيعُوا أَنْ تَعْدِلُوا بَينَ النِّسَاءِ وَلَوْ حَرَصْتُمْ
The preference is to not marry more than one wife, as mentioned in Al-Mujarrad, due to the saying of Allah Almighty: If you fear you will not be just, then only one. (4:3) And due to His saying: You will never be able to be just between your wives, even if it is your ardent desire. (4:129)
Source: al-Sharḥ al-Kabīr 20/24
And Ibn Khatib said:
جُمْهُورُ الْأَصْحَابِ اسْتَحَبُّوا أَنْ لَا يَزِيدَ عَلَى وَاحِدَةٍ
The majority of our scholars recommend not marrying more than one wife.
Source: al-Inṣāf 8/16
And Al-Buhuti writes:
وَ يُسْتَحَبُّ أَنْ لَا يَزِيدَ عَلَى وَاحِدَةٍ إنْ حَصَلَ بِهَا الْإِعْفَافُ لِمَا فِيهِ مِنْ التَّعَرُّضِ لِلْمُحَرَّمِ
It is recommended not to marry more than one wife if he can maintain chastity with her, as it might expose him to what is forbidden.
It also haram to harm someone in Islam. If your wife does not want it, you are committing oppression and haram. Some scholars even wrote that it’s sunnah to marry one wife (because our prophet peace be upon him married one wife prior to his other ones)
“Verily, the sons of Hisham ibn al-Mughirah have sought my permission to marry their daughters to Ali ibn Abi Talib. I do not give permission, again I do not give permission, and again I do not give permission, unless Ali ibn Abi Talib intends to divorce my daughter and marry their daughters. Verily, she is only a part of me. I am upset by what upsets her, and I am harmed by what harms her.”
Imam nawawi writes “The Prophet (ṣ) prohibited that because of his perfect compassion for Ali and for Fatimah, and secondly because he feared she would be tested with jealousy.
Source: Sharḥ al-Nawawī ‘alá Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2449
@@hanzo7616 u said all these imams are Muslim apologists? Allahuakbar.
I don’t learn from random people. I select and choose who’s on Quran and sunnah
I follow Quran and sunnah and the brain Allah gave me Alhamdulillah. And u are saying that isn’t correct? Fear Allah. Women have rights and u are taking them away
@@awimosbizzle you DONT know what the hell you are talking about. Get off youtube. Which marriage are you talking about that was annulled. Give me proof. The prophet saw stayed only with khadijah because he had not yet been commanded to marry more, the moment he was he did 🙄. If you write on your nikah no polygamy than he wont marry you in the first place, and if he does that does NOT prevent him from re marrying. ALL it does is give you legitimate reason to demand a divorce or get a khula, you cannot bind him to that condition 🙄. Thirdly you are WRONG about Fatima. Ali did something immoral: he proposed to a woman from an enemy tribe, an enemy of the Prophet and Fatima, it was that which made the Prophet angry that his daughter would have had to live with a co wife from an enemy tribe. Thats why Ali realised his mistake couldnt handle the insult, was regretful and in order to make ammends he didnt marry again whilst she was alive, afterwards he had four wives and he had a lot of bondswomen. GET AN EDUCATION. Your parents taught you NOTHING about islam 🙄
@@awimosbizzleyou are way to emotional, go eat a pill
The concept of being ‘in love’ is so overrated… for me marriage isn’t about being in love, but rather it’s more around compatibility which would inevitably mean they can bring up the children accordingly…
Correct 👍
It's also about both sides knowing beforehand that things won't always be perfect but they both have to continually exert effort to make the relationship work
A party shouldn't be immediately seeking an exit door when things aren't as they should be
That point they mentioned of "feeling empty" to me isn't even a point.
Maybe it because I don't have that experience yet though 🌚
I believe in building yourself up where you aren't completely dependent on them emotionally, marrying for compatibility and then cultivating love within that. If I'm going to be spending the rest of my life with someone, I'd like us to enjoy each others company
@@Paper-Z I feel like when they say they're empty it's a personal issue most of the time. Sometimes it could be the husband is not giving them attention. Women need to pay attention to what is causing them to feel like this. We need to connect with allah and ask for guidance.
@The Alpha respect and understanding first then the love happens. Love takes time. At least for me I have been married for 14 years.
I don’t think these guys understand women! Empty means no emotional connection. If a man is good, doesn’t abuse his wife doesn’t mean it is a HAPPY marriage. Communication and emotional connection is huge if this is missing in a marriage then there eventually going to be a breakdown in that marriage.
Exactly
With all due respect you speak about "frequencies" and "vibrations". You are in no place to make judgement in this situation. Let the Muslim sisters provide the criticism of the brothers where correct✌🏽
A marriage doesnt have to be happy marriage or divorce. Thats the problem with this. A marriage isnt only happy days and flowers or divorce. The passion will die out, the question is, will you stay for the love of Allah ﷻ?
The sister is clearly speaking about certain stigma that comes along with divorce , maybe execution was not the best but lets not take it out of context , again issues raised about raising a child thats not yours , sisters are pointing out negative experience don't get stuck on the shhhh , their are boundaries certain men cross all the time just like Ali dawah pointed out that they don't know their names acknowledge them or care , but only are quick to discipline but not growth , clearly the sisters are pointing out issues
Again men generally don't like marrying a woman with kids , even non Muslims , so don't put pressure on men to marry you and raise ur kids just because ur a divorced woman .
@@aspire7860 🤣🤣🤣 And you know i'm divorced with kids how , if i was , Both would be a blessing and qadar one comes with experience and the other the most precious love a human could ever be responsible for , Only small minded men have an issue with that , Whats so hard about raising innocent children ?? Once you get past yourself You will see the bigger picture brother May Allah swt sooth your soul Allahuma ameen , to clarify i am neither one of them and have the utmost highest respect for both
@@zuhaira26 we men don't want a load on us simple , I'm a virgin guy unmarried and the last one I'll think about marrying is a girl who has previously married and also with kids , which makes pretty sense , i also want a virgin wife like me so what's ur problem with natural and normal men's preferences , it doesn't indicate that ur less , u just can't force men to marry you , if someone wants to marry a woman with kids who cares , but to assume just because men don't go after a previously divorced woman is bad like she's entitled to still get guys is just not gonna happen if they scream from here till the last day because we men want virgin girls like us , again it doesn't mean divorced women are less , but virgin guys want virgin girls that hasn't been touched by a man before so yeah it's simple so don't beg for men like ur entitled to them
@@aspire7860 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 again your small mindedness is astonishing brother , i never spoke personal yet you are hear screaming all sorts , i never mentioned my own preference or if i am looking for a husband loool or divorced or with children but you assumed all and came to a conclusion , you assume so much its frightening , i also never said a virgin man should be with a none virgin woman , you are the one speaking personally about yourself , i spoke solely on the comments raised by the brothers on the video , i didnt come here to argue with my quick to words no logic emotional brother , So i wish you well i really do may Allah swt grant you and i knowledge and logic Allahuma ameen may you learn to read to understand and not read to becone defensive Allahuma ameen , Emotional intelligence is where you shoukd lean when reading my comment , you clearly have come here with your own emotional baggage . No point going back and forth with somebody who has made uo their mind assumed a whole unknown life for me based on my comment critiquing certain points in the video , Please try to read and think through before commenting back to me , i don't like to entertain this kind of back and forth espiecially with my fellow brother , You did ask for it , and still you cannot see past your assumptions , i wish you well and a clear head Asalaamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakaatu
@@zuhaira26 damn u be writing paragraphs each time
17:45 I have serious objection, plz listen. What you are saying is right, but in this day and age, women are told by Muslim scholars the rights of men. It is rarely mentioned the rights of women on the husband which is wrong. So they are only trying to balance the situation. Here in Somalia, scholars only talk about why women are supposed to fulfill men's rights which is not fair. So you have to look the context. Consider what you are criticizing is women and they can be very emotional. After all, they are a minority in the Dawah scene which is not bad. Love you brother.
I don’t think it’s the scholars who don’t all about the rights of the women, I think that’s unfair. At the end of the day, there are going to be people who are reminded over and over but they have selective hearing.
@@dokyeooomm It is the scholars, they never talk about women right, always men rights.
Prophet Muhammad (saw) married Khadijah (ra) who was a widow and had kids. What are Muslim men learning from that act of our prophet(saw)? How can a true believer disrespect a woman with kids?
The reality is no woman wants to share her husband (if she loves him and has an emotinal attachment to him) Any man that is repulsed at the thought of their woman in relations with another man, should understand that a lot of women think the exact same way, whether we let it slide or not and then to come back to you in that manner, knowing they have acted intimate in the same way with someone else, it's mental torture. On top of all the other family dynamics that come into play if you all live in the same house!
In islam, a men can mary more than one. Women can't. Your feelings is irrelevant
The women that think like that need help because their expectations are based on stupidity, ignorance, arrogance etc.
It should be obvious to women that men and wome are biologically different. Men have an intense biological need for variety I.e men are polygynic. Women are built for monogamy. It’s stupid to enforce a women’s biology on a man.
Most importantly Allah all knowing has made it easy - he has told women that he created men differently with a weakness for women and so has given them a right to polygyny.
Based on these women should stop trying to tell men what’s how they ought to be and Instead accept they cannot understand the male experience and just trust Allah on the matter in addition to scientific and behavioural evidences.
Firstly, your first wife has to agree, secondly, youre not allowed to put both wifes in the same house, they both have to live in seperate houses equally good.
And most importantly, those feelings and idead you have are only due to the fact, that thats what you have been indoctrinated by of your society. In a society where poly. marriage is supported, its the exact opposite, because there is not this highschool-musical love idea in societys mind.
@@Fitratul I know, however what makes you think that all poly relationships where the quran is concerned are carried out in this fashion?
Also read what I wrote in brackets, I have also acknowleged that different types of indoctrination can and will take place, as the feeling of sharing a husband will have been implanted in the mind to be seen as common and nothing to question. I will look into any studies that have taken place, where wifes in such situations are happy or don't even think anything of it.
@@sayeeed1303 I am not surprised that you have stated, womens feelings are not taken into consideration 🤔
There’s a lot of misunderstanding going on here! It would be more efficient for such talks to have both men and women talk face to face to help men and women understand the other side’s needs and expectations and come to middle grounds.
Exactly!!!!
Bring forth your daughter, sister and mom then.
@@Abu-Kurdi bring yours first!
@@zuniamatullah6364 am not the one arguing they should be talking to ali dawah and muhammad hijab. Am not a dayooth like you
@@Abu-Kurdi dayooth is you!😃
If a man won't accept you with your kids as a package then dont marry him. Your kids are more important and Allah swt will hold you to accountable regarding them.
In sharia if the woman gets married her kids have to go live with their father. If you don't want that then don't get married. Also men want to marry one person not an entire family. Imagine a man telling you his mom will move in with you "as a package" and that his mom will always come before you. Yeah the world doesn't evolve around your feelings. Don't hate men because we don't want to raise someone else's kid. If you find someone who is ok with it, great, but keep in mind they are very rare and most of them are divorced with kids as well.
@MIDDLE east If he's able to why not? Just coz you're not man enough for the mission doesn't mean it applies to all men.
@Qawwam you're one of the very few Honest brothers, May Allah preserve you and keep you honest and increase your taqwa.
Umm. Under Islamic law if the biological father is willing and happy then the moment you get married you lose your rights as the primary custodian of your children and must return them to their biological father. When you re-marry your main priority after marriage is your new husband, not your children. And this is why they must be returned to their father.
@@OnePunchMuslim Subhanallah, brother can you post the reference? Jhazakallah for informing us.
Expect to see a lot of hate from woman for "judging" them and be labelled as "extreme muslim" and saying only Allah SWT knows whats in their hearth...
Labelling someone "extreme" and then also calling them "judgmental". The irony....
Lmao OnLy Allah CaN jUdGe Me
@@nikiakbari
I don't think it's appropriate to write Allah like that
@@SJ-yd6zi but you know what I mean right? 🤣
Yet you're the one to judge first, so ironic, what happened to assume the best if Muslims 🤔
I like how you went through and advised this channel. That being said, I believe that some things that you advised on was just a misunderstanding of what they said. I believe when they made the comment about the culture of the home and shushing the kids, it was just cautionary advice. To be careful that they aren't getting a husband who's controling and who will effect the happiness of the household. Not to say that the husband can't discipline the kids, but to make sure that he isn't someone that will distroy the home. Some men are very controlling where you can't even laugh in the house. That was my understanding of what they were trying to say.
Keep up the great work for both channels.
I think you have misunderstood the whole concept of Honest Tea Talk. It is very clear that it is only a personal and honest conversation between friends where personal views are shared and discussed. It is not about sharing expert rulings or fatwas. I have watched all of their videos and they never tell a specific person in a specific situation to do a specific thing.
And concerning women and careers: Maybe the reason is that women nowadays cannot rely on men and put their fate in their hands because then there is a big risk for oppression and abuse, especially among Muslim men unfortunately. So if you don't want to be an easy prey, you HAVE TO make sure you're financially independent and can take care of yourself.
If it’s just a little personal girl talk then don’t upload it to youtube. And “big risk of oppression and abuse, especially among Muslim men” seriously? The islamophobes like to claim that Muslim men are abusers and oppress women and here you are saying the exact same thing, sometimes I wonder who hates Muslim men more, racists or feminists
@Anonymous Good god where do I begin. Lets not pretend like misogyny hasn’t been rife in the Muslim community for centuries, though. We can go all the way back to when men were burying their daughters because they wanted sons. That was misogyny. It has nothing to do with ISLAM (something I cannot iterate enough), the religion, however the individual (fallible) Muslims are to blame. So now women should just be silent at the hands of their abusers? Absolutely not. What if it was your mother or sister being abused by their spouse???? They should speak about it openly. Wallahi it upsets me so much when Muslim men say that women shouldn’t speak up on issues they face at the hands of their brothers in Islam just because misogynistic men want to silence them and claim that they’re running with “western talking points” when they’re literally not.
I smell feminism in this comment, not a good smell
@@futura9126 worthless paragraph
if you marry someone that would harm and abuse you then you didn't do a great job at choosing a spouse to begin with and dont give me the "he changed talk" a smart woman knows how to choose.but a lot of muslim women don't even care if the man is a practising muslim or not if he's doing good financially and not practising then who cares "Allah will guide him".thats why the first thing to look in a man in my opinion is his deen and akhlak.and the "especially among Muslim men" is so wrong is so many ways
wow, @35:17 Mohammed is literally mentioning how it is not a red flag for a potential husband of a divorcee to say he does not want to live with a woman's kids, but mentioned in the beginning of the video how it is wrong for these women to give advice about divorcing a man when children are involved. You are acting like children should be treated like furniture and they can live anywhere. Children require stability.
Agreed. It’s disappointing because I generally like to hear the perspective of both of these brothers but the hypocrisy in this video is rife and hard to ignore.
Uhh no, there's a difference between marrying someone and divorcing someone, marriage is building a home, divorce is dismantling one, please understand the difference before speaking, a man is perfectly within his own right to say that he doesn't want to live with her kids and it's perfectly withing her right not to agree to the marriage, what's ur problem? We're talking about a life here, living with a bunch of kids that aren't urs for the rest of ur life, what u think men should all be accepting of that? Ever thought about the man before u thought about the kids?
Sharee’ah states that if the spouses separate, the mother has more right to custody of the children than the father, but if she remarries she loses her right to custody. The evidence for that is the fact that the Prophet ﷺ said to that woman who asked for custody of her child from her husband - after he had divorced her - “You have more right to that so long as you do not get married.”
Narrated by Abu Dawood, 2276 from the hadeeth of ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr
@yousef shehata On what planet would you *ever* put a grown man over developing, young children? Come on… That man doesn’t require the same attention a child does, and if they believe they do, serious growing up and self-reflection is required.
Feminism is anti-islamic by its nature. You have rights within Islam as a woman but feminists want more and not only that, they demand more and will dismantle a family where a husband is giving you ALL of your Islamic rights because he doesn't make you feel something or another. Feminism women are more concerned with how others should treat them more than what their responsibilities are towards others. That's why it's anti islamic
subhanAllah I came across this sister's channel and truly! didn't think much of it and I never watch again. Jazakkum Allah kharian brother's. this was an eye opener. 💗
@MIKAEL2 Alhamdulillah
They are baias and have feminist agenda
UA-cam = 720p
What I see = 360p
When Women Adopt The Ideology Of Feminists Then Expect Divorce On A Large Scale!!!
I invite everyone to listen to the holy QURAN
@slicky villy not spamming
I invite you to invite people to listen to the Holy Qu'ran who aren't already doing so. We're Muslims akhi.
@Hasan Khan If this is the brother's best ability at giving da'awah, I'm not going to be the one to stop someone from inviting people to read the Word of Allah. But like you said, and insha’Allah the brother reads his comment section:
Da'awah isn't something everyone can do and there is a skill and art involved. Even commenting a simple comment as this, when it's out of context, it can have the opposite effect.
Please don't take offense or stop your efforts at giving da'awah @deen revival , but place more effort in choosing your comments with more care, and understand your audience better.
@slicky villy I see. My bad. I thought he was serious.
I think you have taken a lot from what they have said out of context and the brother tried to correct you Hijab multiple times telling you that that's not what she is actually talking about. As for your first point, I agree there should be referencing to hadith, quraan and sunnah when the sisters speak, and inshallah they can incorporate this in the future. However, your other points none of them really applied to what they were saying.
@@lavarball7538 burdened...ha, I think people forget they are blessings subhanallah. Do you really think as a step father your new marriage will go all that well if one put in zero effort to get to know the kids, did not treat them well and did not try to make them happy too?
Personally,I think both groups would sit at the table and discuss repectfully and politely.....and I think it would've been better to just generally advice them to backup with evidences and all.
....May Allah make us all humble,help us strive to understand our deen and to educate ourselves.I hope we all learn to argue,disagree,give opinions or react in better,humble,positive,nurturing ways🙂...Allahumma Aameen
How about addressing the taboo of divorce that is ongoing in the Muslim communities especially those from Asian background? In the time of the Prophet pbuh, the divorce rate would've been shocking in our current standards. Divorce is allowed and there's a whole chapter in the Quran dedicated for it. Besides, when someone is planning to divorce usually the parents step in etc so to blame this little women show of such big influence to other women is not really realistic coz a woman simply can't divorce that easy. The masajid make sure of that through charging massive amount of money and complications ahead. Finally, of course divorce MUST have a valid reason for taking place but it doesn't have to be extremely complicated.
@Qawwam you ain't got the money for one wife why push slaves of Europeans to get a second.
@Qawwam the first requirement is to be qawaam. Ie strong. Not a good man ie goodie two shoes (ie goodwife ie a orphaned girl with only one shoe).
@Qawwam If you're talking bout taboo of polygamy in the East then sure that's a huge problem since they're supposed to practise shari'atul Islam. But mate, the two men talking live in London, the women show is in the UK, what taboo are talking about? By Western law, you're not allowed to have two wives. End of story.
@@kojo2773 What are you on about? Same problems happen now and then, if it's not about sex it's about money, if it's not about money it's about incompatibility, if not that then it's about family feud and so on. Divorce is divorce. You hate your spouse you hate your life with them, you end it. It looks like you've never been in a relationship, kid.
To say that the divorce rate at the time of the Prophet pbuh would be high is a disgusting and shocking statement that I bet you have no source for. You just heard some modernist say it, so you are parroting it like a spineless goof. We do have some statistics from Islamic scholars on divorce rates slightly later in Islamic history though.
According to Imam al-Sakhawi, as many as three out of ten marriages in 15th century Cairo ended in divorce.
So in the 15th century the divorce rate was 30%. That's still approximately 20% lower than today.
In the time of the Prophet (SAW) it would be even lower.
I am really confused, why you keep saying the Somali sister? You not mentioning the other sisters nationality. All I am hearing is the Somali sister. Secondly you are very harsh, you could have emailed the sisters and advised them privately instead of pinpointing their shortcomings in these videos. At least Ali was respectful. There is no guarantee you will always be with your wife, the matter is in Allah’s hand. Every sister has Choice to choose who she want to get married divorced or not.
Lol I wonder that too
Is she not Somali?
@@blackflagarmy5010 the same way he observed what they were saying he should have learn her name not the ethnicity, he didn’t mentioned the other two sisters ethnicity? Right. it’s very rude to pick and choose what you want.
I just think if he thinks the sisters lack something or are ignorant of the topics they were talking about then email them, all three of them are on Instagram. Their intention was good that Bi’idnillah Allah(SWT) will reward them.
@@Batalale_Channel From a comment i seen the main host of tea talk got divorced. I'm not suprised in the slightest.
@@blackflagarmy5010 is it a crime to be a divorced?
As a sister I agree 150%!!! We fall way too easily for this egoistic-nafsi-brainwashed-by-the-media-looking-for-the-wrong-things lifestyle… We need sakina. We don’t need the dopamine highs!
100% is the maximum amount!
wow! Am gonna use that adjective there😂
@@so.marley I can even bring more to the table lol
@@ULTRAYOLET just keep it. No need to ruffle some feathers here.😂✌️
We need u Sakina ❤️❤️
Brother hijab .... This is the late comment but there are millions of muslim women out there who were actually raising there children by themselves after divorce... Most men after remarried stay away from children in all aspects... So if a man doesn't want to take your children in... Even if it is a haq to them then so many women will definitely die loners
Further , brother from where I come from most women are suffocating in marriage but they stick because of the fear of raising children alone so you may need to look at that in that way
In South Africa it's called Isithembu which is a Zulu word for polygamy. There are second/third/fourth prospective wives who beg the first wife for acceptance into the husband's marriage. We even have a celebrity polygamist man who has a tv show and other guys want to be like him. But that man is rich and he can afford to practice polygamy where his wives are well cared for and treated equally financially speaking. I don't know what else goes into maintaining a polygamist marriage but it's a ton of responsibility from what I've seen.
Another thing, a man not accepting your kids isn't for women to decide is right or wrong in my opinion. I always advocate to keep the biological parents present in the kids lives coz it's better for them. Kids know who's their parent and they can refuse an external person's influence over their lives. This issue can get complicated real quick.
Women beg to marry married men?
@@cowardyoutube5297 basically what can happen is a married man would seek out a second wife without really informing his first wife. Then him and this second woman must ask the first wife for permission to have a second wife. Sometimes the men don't tell their first wife that they want a polygamist marriage. Usually the women who beg for Isithembu are rural girls or young women who have fallen for older married men (basically the younger women are targeted by these older married men) and are somewhat naive enough to not see that these guys are sketchy.
Why does Hijab consider a casual discussion as being set up for giving advice and dawah? Those women (from what you’ve included in this video) have gathered just to talk about what women are generally going through in life. I liked how Ali went about this even though he did disagree with the sisters. Hijab was just nitpicking every word they said.
You need to address Muslim men, deserting their children, not paying for their children. The huge pandemic of drug use. Chasing women/drugs etc. It's huge. I know so many women have to have divorced due to this. Also, so many rights of nikka aren't being met. Also what about men taking the children and raising them, to allow the woman to marry on?
My advice to the brothers: do not interrupt when one of you is speaking.
It is noticeable that one brother begins to speak and the other cuts him off!
@Aylah Aysha it's too common these days.
Asalamu Alaikum...it might be a cultural thingi....i've learnt how to listen in the west...where one is silent when the other talks..which is great..however...in the east..or i should say.. in my family..we mostly..all speak at the same time..but we understand each other...its great as well:)Much love from Kenya:):)
@@siniecat Probably is culture.
It's because they debate a lot so they are used to it
@@huzaifatahir5738 so are uses to hearing their own voice so much?
When Hijab and Ali are in one room it’s bound to get real serious
The man should have the right to dicapline the children as long as he's not violant towards them and he is a good just man same for the woman towards the man's children 🤲😥💝
Agreed sister, you should discipline but try your best not to raise your voice or raise your hand on the children, this applies to both father and mother.
Thank you for mentioning the infiltration of liberalist ideas and language. We all need a heads up on this one.
Amazing point Ali at 28:00
Both of the brothers did an excellent analysis & review of the video.
It is absolutely high priority and essential subject, may Allah reward you and help you to save guard the second most important pillar for humanity and society after Islam which is Family
This isn’t you’re place let us women have our own stuff
i'm not sure if this is some kind of tactic the brothers have in play, to be playing good cop bad cop, or if there is genuine misunderstanding on hijab's part but it doesn't seem like he is putting some things into context or perspective. The shhing part was more about the child being silenced and not being bothered by them as opposed to discipline. And for a brother to be interested in a sister (who has kids) but has no interest in them (the children) being in the picture! Wow. Yes you have the right to your preferences but to put anyone (brother or sister) in a predicament where they have to choose between potential getting married or to keep their children in there lives is horrid. Theres a lot of misunderstanding going on to be honest.
Even non Muslims don't want to marry a woman with kids , it's just an overload on the man especially the Muslim man , you didn't address anything they mentioned in the video , ur just being emotionally manipulative ,
These girls are simply getting influenced by liberal ideas , and no one gets pushed into " political marriage " , she can always say no and just live for her kids , lemme say she's even Lucky to get this chance because most non Muslim women don't even get the chance to date or marry again unless he comes to live in her house
yea I thought I was the only who saw it! Also the fact that they acknowledge that they both have different styles and audiences, therefore the differences in content, and the fact that barakAllah Allah has blessed them with knowledge, but not all of us have opportunity (especially sisters)
@@aspire7860 i dont understand why this is an issue, if a brother doesnt want to marry a sister with kids, he has that right not to. And quit frankly what the non muslims do has no relevance to us as Muslim. When did they become our bench mark on anything?
@@DescendPlays there is a commonality here. women with kids are not the default option
Unfortunately this came up on my feed so I am going to respond. I think you brothers have nothing better to do than nitpick on these sisters, who I believe are doing a very good service to women that are often trampled on by men. Men who use the Qur’an to cherry pick what they want and disregard everything else. The sisters in the video are giving women a voice and I think they have done an excellent job. They aren’t claiming to be scholars, they are talking about society and experiences and they have made reference to Qur’an and Hadith’s. I suggest, instead of sitting around talking about them and their programme you use your platform a bit more constructively.
These men hate women, they will never allow women to talk such a topic... Why these men ignoring what Muslim men doing in West...
those woman were saying dangerous things against Islam. Muslims submit to Allah not "woman's feelings". No matter how much you feminists push your gynocentric worldview Islam will prevail over your corruption.
They’re laughter is infectious
We live a life of luxury, forgetting one day we too shall die. We too will be buried like those who have preceded us. We shall enter the grave, a place of loneliness, a place of darkness, a place of remoteness, a place of worms!
اللَّهُمَّ اغفِر لِلْمُسْلِمِين والْمُسْلِمَاتِ وَالمُؤمِنِينَ وَالمُؤمِنَاتِ، الأَحيَاءِ مِنهُم وَالأَموَاتِ
O’ Allāh, forgive the male and female Muslims, and the male and female believers, the living and the deceased.
35:39 you don’t raise a kid for privilege or authority. You don’t raise a kid thinking about getting some sort of power in return it shoud be unconditional for the sake of Allah! and if you not their father cool you don’t have to be in charge of them but a men that isn’t trying to build somewhat of a relationship with your kids and blatanly tell you he don’t wanna deal with your kid is NOT a good man!!
In Islam is the mother remarries the kids go back to their father
29:16 I just knew you were going to mention Nigeria 😀✌️
A lot of people still have issues with it though but it is relatively acceptable/normal in Nigeria. Even non Muslims have multiple wives
Thats so good
My grandfather used to be a professor in Nigeria (sokoto)
@@kungfufreak360 nice
@Tahmid Alpha12 Yes
@Tahmid Alpha12 he is right vvomen who dont like polygyny are not good and by not good those who protest are not good vvomen. it is legislated in this religion. muslim men can convert and marry non muslim vvomen. u r an insolent daemon.
Mohamed hijab always looking for someone to dispute. Lol quit putting words in people’s mouths. Also be humble.
By 'shush' her kids - she did not mean you cannot discipline them. She was speaking about a man who is indifferent, so 'shush' meant that you ignore the kids and fail to communicate with them. I think its easy to misinterpret what the sisters mean. And i guess this is why these videos are aimed at women. Its very easy for men to misunderstand. Which is what Muhammad Hijab did continuously throughout this video. Misinterpreting.
Ali was really balanced in this video and fair and seemed to try to understand the views and what the women might mean. Good points in the video overall. May Allah make marriage easy for everyone and grant everyone patience and strength. Aameen.
I think if the husband is good then the woman should be patient and ask Allah subhaanahu ta aala to put love in in their hearts for each other especially if they have children unless like brother hijab said they feel repulsed towards each other I agree you need to listen to both sides of the story may Allah subhaanahu ta aala protect us all and help us all to make the right decisions Aameen thumma Aameen 😥🤲
I swear these 2 men need to be humbled... I’m tired of them talking down on other people experiences with so much entitlement and superiority as if they got it all.
1/ Yes a woman who do work and is stable financially is strong and yes a woman who stays at home and take care of the family is strong... but it’s NOT the same strength... the first is strong because she can take care of herself if things gets wrong, has her own backbone and can stand up by herself.. the second is strong because of her circumstances, if things gets wrong the only thing that will keep her going is her strength and not her ability to stand up by her self (when neither the husband is respecting her nor her family welcoming her back; something that is very common but y’all keep ignoring because you are living in a bubble of a perfect Muslim world)
You keep talking about kawama and how things are perfect in Islam but keep forgetting that 90% of the cases in reality are the opposite... most men understand kawama as a concept against women and not for women.
2/The feeling of void DOES exist and IS valid, even men go through it... the only difference is that women either choose to stay in the marriage despite everything, leave it or in some extreme cases cheat. Men in the other hand while feeling that void, they are allowed to act on it either by getting a second wife up till a fourth wife (hoping the void will be filled) or even cheat which is something common for men compared to women.
27: 58 It’s not the concept that is degrading, it’s totally fine if the woman is okay with it and accepting it. BUT the truth is that MOST women are bullied into it because of society, their family..etc
27:16 he sounds so dumb. That’s all I have to say.
Wear hijab first. You don't follow Islam properly. No wonder why you end up in abusive situations.
Sister implement Hijab in sha Allah. If you don't fear Allah you fear nothing you are open to any sin.
You don’t even wear a hijab
Her not wearing hijab does not invalidate the points she's made. Use hikma and adab when advising someone.
the fact of the matter is sister
these sisters are speaking not from quran and sunnah but what they feel which is incorrect and can be detrimental for their viewers
Also dont see the reason why the brothers need to be humbled
They werent but objectively dissecting their arguments and helping them to improve
These same sisters completely threw away and rejected the idea of marrying a divorced man with kids. But advocate the opposite that men should marry divorced women with kids. Lol. The hypocrisy.
@Alien Reject well if the mother re-marries or travels far away only then the kids go to the father. But if she remains single and doesn't move far away somewhere where the father cannot visit his kids and go home in one day then the kids stay with her. Otherwise the kids go to the biological father.
That's what the scholars generally say
Honest Tea Talk is a talk not a fatwa session. Maybe they can put a disclaimer in the beginning saying that they are not scholars and not giving religious advise. It kills my heart that Muslim men are knit picky like this especially towards woman. What can we do publicly without haram police intervention?
I pray that these women continue to thrive and succeed. Ameen. We need way more people like them creating public platforms for Muslim women issues.
If you don’t want “haram police intervention” don’t say and do haram things online.
the time I advised my friend to divorce is when her husband hit her so bad I couldn't recognise her face
My sister’s husband hits her all the time and she is afraid of divorce
@@asmazingb may Allah grant her the courage to leave him. in my family the men wouldn't let her stay or he'll get hit exactly how he hit her.
You saved her.
@@khazana24 It took her a year and a couple more beatings to leave but alhamdulillah she did, now happily married to someone else.
@@asmazingb well she should get divorce the prophet reported by his wives in his life in home he never hit anything with his hands
Reminds me so much of Gabriel Al Romaanis reaction video on this show! Very much needed! Jazakallah khayr
can you link it
31:55, mashaAllah through the video, Muhammad Hijab mentions great points and analogies, so on point.
marriage is not about love marriage is about responsibility - kevin samuels
This is the second reaction video I watch about honest tea talk and I still can see Hijab misunderstanding what the sisters are saying again ang imagining stuff that is not there and being biased 🤦🏻♀️I can't imagine that being intelligent as he is ,he can't really understand people correctly.
He practices سوء الظن way too much
Yes, brother hijab is correct. I am west African from Mali, and many men back home have minimum 2 wives my father had 4 wives at 1 point and my grandfather had 5 wives, 1 had past away, ( we have big families alhumdulilah)and my mom and my 2nd mom refer to each other as sisters when asked. They’ve had disagreements but are respectful to each other. Some co-wives are like friends, some are very respectful as should be to maintain peace, and few are very close like sisters. There is a few that is bad and cause so many problems but eventually lead to divorce. I’ve observed situations where the 2 co wives live together ( I’ve lived together with 2 cowives ( not my moms) and two of my aunts I’ve known 4 most of my life) and are very close like good friends, respectful to each other and loving to all the kids, in those situations the kids see the other wive as their mother and treat and call her that way. There are situations were it becomes a fight and competition btwn the wives and toxic to the point of all types of abuse of one or more of the cowives. There are many stories of bad palygamy and many examples of good palygmagy in practice among west African Muslims. The problems can be from the man or from one or more of the wives or from both, but there are beautiful situations were there is affection btwn the cowives and they behave as if they were sisters and never fight, they will hav disagreements of course like all humans.
a wisdom of mu ham mad or a donkey?
transformed into monkeys and pigs.'"
Narrated 'Ammar bin Yasir:
"The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: 'The Ma'idah was sent down from the Heavens with bread and meat. And they were commanded to not be deceitful with it and hide it for tomorrow. So they were deceitful with it and they hid it, so it was raised up in the morning. Then they were transformed into monkeys and pigs.'"
survival of a species is based on obtaining resources that are limited, so that individuals can live and reproduce.
-Charles Darwin Evolutionist-
Statisticaly only two of 51 men can have 2 wives. So if two men have 4 wives then 4 other men will be without any wive.
So just statisticaly you see that have more then one wive is a special situation and cant be the mainstream situation.
Thank you for your comment. I used to watch honest tea show. And I liked our Muslim ladies making their thoughts and opinions public. I thought they were expressing their grievances in more or less neutral manner with minor discrepancies. Until I watched their epsiode on "Polygamy" and I tell you I was shocked. It was most biased and ridiculous episode. They painted and presented only side of the story i.e. negative or failed cases. Basically, they wanted to declare that polygamy is an abhorrent practice but they couldn't because there isn't any religious backing to bring forward.
@ONLINE INTELECTUAL It’s brainwashed feminism that causes a HUMAN BEING to feel jealousy toward their spouse?!?! This is peak gaslighting. A man would kill himself before he shares his wife with another man, yet the mere thought of a woman wanting her man to herself is considered abhorrent!? Just because something is HALAL, doesn’t mean that everybody wants to practice it or feels comfortable doing it.
@@eam3508 the hypocrisy is real..
Very interesting discussion. Learnt a lot about this topic.
a wisdom of mu ham mad or a donkey?
transformed into monkeys and pigs.'"
Narrated 'Ammar bin Yasir:
"The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: 'The Ma'idah was sent down from the Heavens with bread and meat. And they were commanded to not be deceitful with it and hide it for tomorrow. So they were deceitful with it and they hid it, so it was raised up in the morning. Then they were transformed into monkeys and pigs.'"
survival of a species is based on obtaining resources that are limited, so that individuals can live and reproduce.
-Charles Darwin Evolutionist-
@@seeki3315 English
I work but honestly I'd prefer to stay home and take care of my kids when I do get married
Hopefully never enjoy your cats
Hearing you guys talk is so easy, I could listen to your videos and learn so easily because of how comfortable I am with your videos despite their length and serious, educational subjects. Jazak Allahu Khair for uploading these videos and doing dawah, it was a major part of strengthening my deen while I was in middle school as well ! May Allah continue to guide us and strengthen us and make us as guidance for others. May he continue to allow you guys to lead more people to Islam Ameen 🤲🏼❣️
I think they deeped the shush thing too much lol. I think it just slipped from the sisters tongue and I think actually what she meant was generally when a man marries a woman with kids and is part of the disciplining his style may be different and this CAN cause a bit of turbulence and she was addressing this. I dont think she meant a man cant shush his wife's kid lol. The shush was just an expression
The three ladies of honest tea talk discuss and provide perspectives on a whole host of issues, stigmas affecting Muslim women. I believe the ladies have psychology/counselling backgrounds so they mostly talk about the issues mostly through this lens.
They have never claimed to be scholars or that the show is giving an Islamic ruling. They are simply putting issues to the forefront and there is nothing wrong with that.
I think Mohammad hijab was really reaching in his critiques, taking things out of context- especially by insinuating that these ladies are against polygny and are propagating liberalist ideals. These women live in the west and so ofc your environment affects your thinking- have they said anything against the deen? If so please provide evidence for this.
Mohammed Hijab and Ali Dawah spend a lot of time criticising people (sometimes rightly so) but they hardly provide solutions to the issues they seem to be so shocked about- only reactions.
i felt the same here they were biased and they were seeing everything with feminist agenda lens
You're giving the sisters too much freeway here. It's clear they're representing Islam and have a Muslim audience that will take their advice on board. As such they have to be VERY careful about the content they put out.
We have the solutions, and have for 1400 years. There's no excuse.
@@fahadrizvi101 what advice have they given? have they advised women to leave their husbands? Have they told women to abandon their roles as wives and as mothers? Please provide evidence for where they have given advice contrary to the Hadith and Quran?
@@sully9937 have they advised against Quran and Sunnah? If men and women were following the Quran and Sunnah there wouldn’t be the issues that exist today! They are highlighting issues that are swept under the rug and again there is nothing wrong with speaking on these issues. So please share with us where they have advised contrary to Quran and Sunnah?
The amount of women who are actually correcting Hijab is amazing! There are women who have gone through things and the Honest Tea talk is just a way of showing that women are not alone! And then there are teen girls who are failing classes and Fantasizing about marriage so that they can escape school hence agreeing with all the misogyny in the comments. Hijab be fair and bring three to four women From different walks of life! Talk to them! And see from their perspective, instead of just recklessly bashing your own Muslim sisters!
Correcting hijab lol.
I don’t believe there was any bashing only constructive criticism, all points he made are valid & he said they are doing a good job, just the way they word things can actually mislead a lot of sisters and we are never alone ALLAH is always with us, a slight adjustment of adding some hadiths or versus from the Quran to back there advice would be more beneficial
@@stafaveli it is true, Allah is always with us. But they were saying being lonely in the sense that at that point, they had to do things on their own meaning their so called loved ones do not step up to help them
It was very important brothers to make clear what the difference is between divorce and خلع because a woman can make خلع if she hates something about her husband and she's afraid that this thing will lead her to not fulfill her islamic duties as a wife.
I think you conflated this with divorce and the punishment for a woman if she asks for divorce.
That marriage documentary will come out when One Piece ends lmao
Anyone here support trans rights? I'm a western male atheist BUT SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING ISLAN!!
The only issue is I fully support trans activity, activism etc...
Are there imams who are LGBTQIAM??
Is there a way I can reconcile my support for trans activism and my planned Islamic faith?
I cannot support a religion that hates trans activism etc
There is no space for LGBTQ in Islam. It is considered one of the major sins. If someone tells you that you can reconcile such views and and be a muslim he/she is lying to you.
I would be more respectful to call them by their names