Audio error at 27:40, (it can be found on the stream version ua-cam.com/users/livepepAv6Lz_ok). This is the text: You say that Muslim theologians don’t disagree about the who-ness of God well of course it’s true that Islam is a monotheistic religion and in the same way Christians agree on trinitarianism but the amount of disagreement about the nature of God and his attributes and so forth is just as diverse in Islam and Christianity as for the Holy Spirit you don’t need to wait until the fourth century for him to be granted full Divine status that occurs in the new Testament itself as I’ve already stated. Now with respect to the three wills I think that this follows from divine perfection you have three perfect persons who are equal in goodness omnipotence and omniscience and therefore it’s perfectly plausible that they would always agree and would not come into disharmony with each other so this is a Christian postulate that I think is perfectly reasonable.
Hijab is not an effective debater. The actual problem is that if 3 minds consistently align in their gazillions of decisions and actions, then their wills are not entirely independent. Their are underlying supreme principle or the source from which the individual wills derive. In this way craig is placing a common ideal above them...
In regards to the Dr.s closing statement: I was born into a Muslim family, and stopped identifying as a Muslim or practicing for a few decades. I was fully agnostic and dabbling in spirituality, deeply seeking to know God or to understand God it to feel peace in my being. I am so grateful to have that perspective now, after returning with fresh eyes like a child. Learning to pray, learning the Quran, learning the seera of the prophet. I thank god everyday for my return to Islam.
Excellent. How can a man 2000 years later claim to understand the trinity better than centuries of Christian scholars? Truth is that the trinity was a later creation, never part of the early Christian theology.
Dear Fatima Hijab... *Who is Powerful ? Triune God - God the Father, The Creator, God the Son, the redeemer (from our sins) and God the Holy Spirit The Sanctifier* or Man made Allah and His baqri as the redeemer to redeem from mankind sins, specially when comes to mass violences, murders,...? Muslims got it right ? or still want to follow single headed dictator false god and not the actual Creator The Father / Redeemer The Son/ Sanctifier The Holy Spirit, The Triune God ? Who calls you His Children and not slaves, choice is yours!!!
It didn't. Started with 11 and is going on strong after 2000 years. Your Islam however doesn't like free speech and would kill people who don't bow. Difference.
*What your imams don't tell you* Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*
@@TS-zd2ud in john 3 verse 16 , its says the begotten son of god , so yeah in christiannity they believe that jesus is the begotten son of god , if the son of god means a righteous prophet yeah it can be accepted but in the bible , lot of prophets were called son of god as they were righteous and virtuous people , so that doesnt make jesus more special than all of them , so there is no mistake my friend , u gotta educate yourself
I used to be a Christian. I struggled for decades to understand the Trinity. No one could even begin to explain it to me in a way that made logical sense. When I started studying Islam, it took me 3 seconds to understand Tawhid. Case closed.
Islam ain't an upgrade at all lmao. The mystery of God isn't something to be bragged by muslims as if they do, Sam shamoun would gladly destroy their claims as well. The only thing greater than Christianity factually is agnosticism.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think one’s ability to understand certain doctrines in religion is a testament to that particular religions falsity or truth.
*Is the Trinity Coherent? | Mohammed Hijab vs Dr. William Lane Craig* 0:00:30 Introducing Dr William Lane Craig 0:01:12 Introducing Mohammed Hijab 0:01:39 Introducing topic, and format of the debate _The debate_ 0:02:09 Dr WLC's opening statement/remarks 0:06:09 MH's opening statement/remarks 0:09:29 Dr WLC's first response 0:11:54 MH's first response 0:14:19 Dr WLC's second response 0:16:25 MH's second response 0:18:49 Dr WLC's third response 0:20:55 MH's third response 0:24:00 Dr WLC's fourth response 0:26:01 MH's fourth response 0:27:40 Dr WLC's fifth response 0:28:51 MH's fifth response 0:30:15 Dr WLC's sixth response 0:31:56 MH's sixth response 0:33:08 Dr WLC's seventh response 0:35:28 MH's seventh response 0:38:04 Dr WLC's eighth response 0:39:13 MH's eighth response 0:40:29 Dr WLC's ninth response 0:41:06 MH's ninth response 0:43:14 Dr WLC's tenth response 0:44:19 MH's tenth response 0:46:26 Dr WLC's eleventh response 0:47:30 MH's eleventh response 0:49:57 Dr WLC's twelfth response 0:51:26 MH's twelfth response 0:53:17 Dr WLC's closing statement 0:56:10 MH's closing statement 0:59:15 Dr WLC's final comment on MH's views 1:00:04 MH's final comment on Dr WLC's views 1:01:15 Thanking the two debaters
Amazing debate!! Once again, Islam proves to be the truth without having to do mental gymnastics. Alhamdulillah, after being atheist for 10 years Allah guided me towards the right path. I hope He will guide the rest of those who are ready to find the truth and the right path. In Shaa Allah!
You have to be joking. Hijab failed to show any incoherence with the Trinity and ran away whenever Craig talked about the issues of the Muslim view of tawhid (far from a general monotheism). Hijab barely made any arguments except attacking Craig, and when he did, Craig easily refuted it while managing to hold back laughter. This was like a kindergartener with a beard who thinks he has an amazing argument getting refuted by the teacher but stubbornly sticking with it and declaring himself the winner. This is the best Islam has got? And Islam denies one of the most obvious facts of history--that Jesus was crucified. If you honestly believe that, you have thrown out all care for evidence and history. But you seem smarter than that, so I encourage you to look into how 100% of the evidence from the 1st century shows Jesus was crucified, and then ask yourself why He was and why Muhammad got this wrong. May the true God lead you to a true relationship with Him that leads to confidence of eternal life. ❤
@@James-ny2xl the truth is a hard pill to swallow. Navigating christian Theology is like driving with extremely blurred vision; in the end, you must rely on faith alone to get to your destination. With Islam, your destination can be seen as if it is right in front of you. Even when your faith is low, you are absolutely certain of your destination. I'm lucky to be guided from a blind christian to an able Muslim. Alhamdulillah!
For me Quran cannot be truth is because:🤔 Muhamad of Islam who was 50+ married a 6 years old girl ?🤯........Sunan Adi Dawad 2121,sahih bukhari 5158,sahih bukhari 5133 …………………………………………. Holy man of Islam Married his daughter-in-law?...The history of Al-talbari vol VIII,page 4 ….Tafir Al Jalalayn,Quran,Sura Al-Ahzab,verse 36,Quran,Sura Al-Ahzab,verse 37,Quran,Sura Al-Ahzab,verse 50,Prophet Muhammad's privilege no. 10, Allah comes to help him by telling the guest to leave early from this wedding?...Quran,Sura Al-Ahzab,verse 53 ………………... Married a slave after murdering the whole family and her husband? ….Sahih Muslim, book 8,no.3329...Sahih Bukhari,no.2228...The Life of Muhamad : Al-Waqidi's Kitab al-Magahazi,p.332,editor:Riziwi Faizer….Sahih Muslim,book 8, No 3328 A soldier, guided outside for the night was worried for holyman? He was worried the lady may kill him, after what he did to her family.... The history of al-Tabari vol 39,p.185 ………………………………… Leave Islam, and you will be KXXX?.....Sunan an-Nasa'i 4059 …………………………………... Hates with Jews???.....Sahih Muslim 2922 Sunan Adi Dawud 3030 Sahih bukari 3399 ………………………………………. Women are domestic animal? AL Tabari Ref: vol 9, page 113 …………………………………. Can have right hands posses(sex slave)?...Quran Surat An-Nisa 4:3,Quran 23.6, QURAN 33.50 ……………………………………… woman's silence is her affirmation to marriage? ...Sahih Muslim 1421c …………………………………….. Tried to k!ll himself(Muhmmad)?.....Sahih al-Bukhari 6982,Tarikh al-Tabari, vol 2 by Al Tabari ………………………………………….. Called all women devils and are more in hell?.....sahih al-Bukhari 304, sahih muslim 36:6596, sahih muslim 36:6598,sahih Bukhari 1:6:301,Quran 2:282,Sahih Muslim 1403a ……………………………………………... muslim women are half intelligent? sahih al bukhari 2658, Quran 2:282,Quran 4:11 …………………………….. Muhammad, Got caught having sex with his slave by his wife?...,Tafsir Jalalayan Quran 66.1...sunan an Nasa'i3959 …………………………………….. Because of EVE, women betrays her husband? Sahih al-Bukhari 3399 ……………………………. when a muslim women gets divorce by her husband, SHE have to marry another men if she wants to get her old husband back again?Sunan an-Nasai 3411 …………………... Nearly divorced his wife ? In Islam as long as women is old a man can divorce her??? Jami'at-Tirmidhi 3040, sahih bukhari 2694 ………………………………. Had no money to give his wife? Allah come to help him not by giving him money but by threatening his wife for asking money?...Sahih Muslim 1478 ………………………………... Muhammad's Wife had only one undergarment?....Sahih al- Bukhari 312 ………………………………….. Drink Camel's urine?? Sahih al-Bukhari 5686 ……………………………………. Told a women to breastfeed an adult man ?...Sunan Ibn Majah vol 3,book9,hadith 1943, Sahih Muslim 1453a But a women cannot breastfeed ? ………. Sunnah reference : Book 30, Hadith 14 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 30, Hadith 13 Arabic reference : Book 30, Hadith 1288 …………… Islam scholar says you can see a muslim women naked??? if you want to marry her? ….Sahih Bukharri 2624(Dawood Zahiri(815-883Ad),(Imam Al Awazai(207.774AD) ……………………………………. Forgive a man who k!ll his pregnant slave just because she was not happy with him? ....sunan an naisa'i 4070 Beats his wife?...Sahih Muslim / Book 4 / Hadith 2127 ………………………………... K!ll children?...……..Sahih muslim 1745c,sahih muslim 4550 ………………………………... Sold and bought sex slaves? Al-Sunnan al-Kubra’ Volume 2 page 227, Sunan an-Nasa'i 4184,sahih al bukhari 4138,Sunan an Nasa'i 4621,Sunan an Nasa'i 4050 …………………………………. How Prophet Muhammad die? Quran, Surah Al-Haqqah, v. 44-46...then read this... Sahih al-Bukhari 4428 ……………………………... Allah have shin(a body part)? Sahih al bhukhari 7439 …………………………………………. LAST HOUR IS Coming or OVER?...sahih muslim 2953b ………………………………………….. Everyone is touched BY DEVILS?....Sahih Bukhari 3286 …………………………………….. 7 Ajwa dates every morning will not be affected by POISON?.....Sahih al-Bukhari 5445 ………………………………………... How Prophet Muhammad die? Quran, Surah Al-Haqqah, v. 44-46...then read this... Sahih al-Bukhari 4428 …………………………….. Islam says Muslims are the best of people ever raised up for mankind, so they are allowed to bring non believe with chains on their neck????. Sahih al-Bukhari 4557 ……………………………………. Allows Girl Child marriage? Surah At-Talaq(Quran 65.4) ………………………. Sahih al-Bukhari 1341(non believers are "worst creatures"?) ......................... Allah Astray you? Surah Araf (Quran 7.178) ……………………………. REF> Ex muslim Sahil and Adam seeker and Ex-Muslim Zafar Heretic
Deuteronomy 21:10-14 if you see a beutiful woman among the captive and are attracted to her you may take her as your wife.Bring her into your home where she must shave her head and cut her nails and change the clothes she was wearing when you captured her.
@@kevinmath007 calm down kevin boy 😂 The mother of your second was three years older than Lady Aisha when she married Joseph ، Does that mean that Joseph is a Ped ? And also Does this mean that your third god the Holy Spirit is a Ped because he pregnant a little girl the mother of your second god 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣? Typical Liberal Trinitarian Effeminate
That's islams nature: Always blaming others, even for Hijabs self righteous and condescending character. Now you even blame speakers corner for it!!! There is not a bit of self criticism in islam as it seems. It implies speakers corner has more power over Hijabs character than islam...
By his own admission, this doctrine is taught in the new testemant, not the Old Testament and never taught by other previous prophets. In other words, a great innovation.
Do you believe Allah taught everything about himself in the first chapter of the Quran? Of course not. God continued to reveal more of Himself as time went on, so while aspects of God's triunity are in the Old Testament, of course we get more in the New Testament. Praise God! In the OT, we get a level 1 and 2 understanding of God, then when we've learned that, God goes on to give us level 3 understanding. And when we get to Heaven, we will see there is so much more about God He hasn't revealed to us yet. Praise God! May the Lord open your eyes and show you that Jesus died (to deny this is to deny history and all evidence, as Muslim apologists often do) and rose from the dead and reveal to you why He chose to do that ❤
@@James-ny2xl please just stop. Aspects of a triune God are not in the Old Testament which is probably why the entire history of Judaism seems to be oblivious to this point 😂 . And seems even according to you guys, all the previous prophets and all of their followers who lived before the advent of Jesus will be going to heaven whilst believing in the Muslim God and not the man God you worship. The unverifiable origins of Christianity, textual criticism etc as well as the evidence for and Gods message in the Quran make it abundantly clear your triune God is one of the greatest innovations in monotheism. Please just stop. Christianity has become so embarrassing it hurts.
as prophet Yusuf says in the Quran “O my fellow-prisoners! Which is far better: many different lords or God -the One, the Supreme? Whatever ˹idols˺ you worship instead of Him are mere names which you and your forefathers have made up-a practice Allah has never authorized. It is only Allah Who decides. He has commanded that you worship none but Him. That is the upright faith, but most people do not know “ …this really applies to the Christian’s , the trinity is a man made concept that God never authorized
How do you know the Quran is from God? Muslims: The Quran said so How do you know God said so? Muslims: Mohammed said so How do you know Mohammed wasn’t lying? Muslims: The Quran said he wasn’t Who told you to believe the Quran? MOHAMMED Did anyone else see the angels or hear the revelations? Muslims: No So why do you trust Mohammed? Muslims: Because the Quran said he’s Perfect Who told you to trust the Quran? MOHAMMED This logic is why Muslims should be the most pitied people.
@@gherrocruciblethe amount of Muslims posing as Christian’s in the topped liked and hearted comments is disgusting and the fact all of you are spamming the comments with lies look up SAM shamoun and come back and apologize
@@gherrocruciblethe amount of Muslims posing as Christian’s in the top and hearted comments is disgusting we can’t even have an even comment section without lies you know what dies and look up SAM I can’t spell his full name but come back and apologize once he opens all of your eyes
Probably the best hadith you’ll ever hear Aws bin Aws narrated: Allah's Messenger said to me: "Whoever performs Ghusl on Friday, and bathes completely, and goes early, arriving early, gets close and listens and is silent, there will be for him in every step he take the reward of a year of fasting and standing (in prayer). At-Tirmidhi (496) Sahih hadith
This in fact is truth. The blessings for doing this however is obtaining knowledge to guard against evil. That is the purpose of leaving all of your worldly obligations and desires to listen amd contemplate the recitation if the Qurán.
i struggle to understand if coming early and listening means coming before the first athan because that wasn't a thing in the time of the prophet, does anyone have a source that talks about it? is the lecture in between the athans and before khutba count in order fot you to take that reward?
@@zinoubensalah8939 I think you misunderstood the purpose to go to the Mosque. It is not required for you to go to the mosque. What is required of you is that if you go to a mosque that you go there clean... bathed is better so that you go to learn the Qurán untethered and relaxed to absorb the knowledge. Now if you choose to stay home or go home for Jummah you would do the same but you would read Qurán on your own or with your family. Basically going to the mosque at the time of prophet Muhammad was because he was the only one with the knowledge to impart to others. Now we have Qurán everywhere. I can't think of any person that calls themselves muslim not owning a Qurán. So again the importance of these gatherings is for the sake of knowledge to be guided aright and to begin tue discipline required to fulfill your covenant with Allāh without fail not exceeding the limits of your desires within your hearts.
@@MWA1407 Did you come to Islam? The religious historian and philosopher Han-Joachim Schoeps says: “Here is a paradox of world-historical proportions: Jewish Christianity indeed disappeared within the Christian church, but was PRESERVED in Islam.” (Caps mine) ****************** Backed up by the preaching and practice of Jesus of the Bible. ****************** "There is CONSENSUS among biblical scholars that Jesus, to all historical probability, did NOT consider himself as the incarnation of the second person of a Trinitarian God. NOWHERE did Jesus teach a Trinitarian doctrine. As one would expect from a pious Jewish rabbi, he believed in ONE GOD and strictly REFUSED to be equated with God. Jesus saw himself as a divinely authorized MESSENGER ... [and] his contemporaries [saw] Jesus as a PROPHET..." (Perry Schmidt-Leukel, Religious Pluralism, 152) Caps mine
Come back to the light. As you could see in the debate, Hijab failed to show anything incoherent about God being eternally relational. Craig only had 2 minutes each time to reply to these weak arguments, and he still did an excellent job with that. For further explanation, I encourage you to check out his long-form content. It takes 10 seconds to write an equation but much longer to solve it and show exactly how it was solved, so an extended answer would be even more helpful. According to the primary and secondary accounts of the eyewitnesses, Jesus contradicted Islamic belief hundreds of times. It is clear from Jesus' words and the words of His disciples that Jesus is God, but what is even more obvious and can't even be debated by any serious scholar is that Jesus contradicted what Muhammad would later invent and teach and therefore, according to Jesus, Islam is false. May the true Lord bless you! ❤️
@@James-ny2xl The religious historian and philosopher Han-Joachim Schoeps says: “Here is a paradox of world-historical proportions: Jewish Christianity indeed disappeared within the Christian church, but was PRESERVED in Islam.” (Caps mine) ****************** 👉 Backed up by the preaching and practice of Jesus of the Bible. ****************** "There is CONSENSUS among biblical scholars that Jesus, to all historical probability, did NOT consider himself as the incarnation of the second person of a Trinitarian God. NOWHERE did Jesus teach a Trinitarian doctrine. As one would expect from a pious Jewish rabbi, he believed in ONE GOD and strictly REFUSED to be equated with God. Jesus saw himself as a divinely authorized MESSENGER ... [and] his contemporaries [saw] Jesus as a PROPHET..." (Perry Schmidt-Leukel, Religious Pluralism, 152) Caps mine
@@James-ny2xl The Son aka Jesus of the Bible preached and practiced: 1) Who is THE ONLY TRUE GOD? ✅ The Father (John 17:3) 2) Who is the God of the Son aka Jesus? ✅ The Father (John 20:17) 3) Who alone to be worshipped as God? ✅ The Father (John 4:21) 4) Whose name be hallowed? ✅ The Father (The Lord's prayer) 5) Whose kingdom come? ✅ The Father (The Lord's prayer) 6) Whose will be done on earth as it is in heaven? ✅ The Father (The Lord's prayer) 7) Whom to ask for daily bread? ✅ The Father (The Lord's prayer) 8) Whom to ask for forgiveness? ✅ The Father (The Lord's prayer) 9) Whom to pray to for guidance? ✅ The Father (The Lord's prayer) 10) Who delivers from the e-v-i-l one? ✅ The Father (The Lord's prayer)
For the past 2 years im listening to This kind of debates But i never found any 2 Christians who believe in the same way ... Everyone has its own definition and understanding
This is what happens when there is no real scholarship and truth on their side. Alhamdulillah, Islam is the only religion that holds up to the highest rigor.
Then turn to the Bible and understand it also just watch Sam shamoun description of it don’t let people dictate what your belief is look into the Bible
He did though. He refuted every weak argument Hijab threw out. Just because Hijab declares himself the winner doesn't make it true. And Craig could have given much more in-depth responses to these weak arguments if he had had more time. Hijab was saved by the bell from further humiliation.
@@James-ny2xl the truth and logic prevail 😂 Christians them self don't agree and 100 Christians will give you 101 different explanation of the trinity 😮 Christianity is not logic but just faith and believe 😮😢
Great work Mohammed Hijab. So happy to see you calmly debunk his societal trinitarinsm arguments and his analogies about the two matches. You kept your composure and were very respectful. This was a delight to watch and we can truly see how much you've grown compared to past performances. أللهم بارك لك، حفظك الله من كل شر و زادك علما نافعا
In response to Dr LC’s closing statement… I was raised believing in God but having a Muslim father and Christian mother and therefore Christian and Muslim family members. What I’ve found is that most of my Christian family have became increasingly less aligned with Christianity and more aligned with atheism or agnosticism. However all of my Muslim family have remained Muslim. This doesn’t prove anything but this along with other factors does show the strength and continuation of the Islamic belief within my family tree. I have became Muslim in recent years after learning lots of different facts about both religions and comparing them. I found that so many aspects of the Christian theology has contradictions (especially the trinity) and there is a clear failure of preservation of the bible. In Islam everything made sense to me and answered all my questions that I had before about God and religion. I have also found that not a single Christian is sure of their faith and they simply have nothing but faith to rely on, whereas Muslims have both faith and logic/reasoning. I have also found that Muslims r more confident in debates as a result of how confident they r that their faith is true. I even heard Christian’s (that I’ve debated with and those who I’ve seen in interviews) admitting to having “blind faith” in Christianity but believing cause they ‘have had experiences or visions or feelings that Christianity is true. I’m convinced that my mother will eventually accept Islam as she is struggling to refute my points and she herself can’t grasp the trinity but believes that Jesus is the son of God and that the actual God is the father and that the Holy Spirit also exists but she doesn’t understand the actual Christian belief that the trinity is co-equal and she doesn’t believe to at Jesus is God. Even most of my friends that were raised Christian have became more agnostic due to the contradictions in Christianity but they aren’t really interested enough about religion and God to learn about and explore Islam. I also believe that because I wasn’t brought up Muslim and became Muslim due to reasoning between religions, I am more confident that it’s the truth.
Brother Hijab dominated the debate by dismantling the logical incoherences and contradictions within the doctrine of the Trinity. He not only exposed the flaws in Dr. Craig’s analogies but also revealed Craig’s heretical views, which diverge significantly from mainstream Christianity. Hijab effectively critiqued Craig’s rejection of the eternal generation of the Son and his partialist views, while also highlighting the contradictions in the mainstream Christian understanding of the Trinity itself. His deep engagement with logic and philosophy made his argument far more compelling and rigorous.
Yet Allah copies to make a counterfeit 3 of himself, his lifeless word in paradise which intercedes on judgment day and the spirit in jibreel which created isa, an angel mankind hybrid by bowling in Maryam privates ( 3 of Allah word spirit)
Atleast Dr.William had the guts to debate big shots unlike christian missionaries and APUS only choosing to debate unknown random new faces in Modern day debate. 😂😂.. And still they loose
@@pavelcrestin1 Why did Hijab not Debate with a bunch of gremlins in the UA-cam comment section? Simple, because they aren't on his level. I'm pretty sure he also said that he only debates those with a large enough following and good credibility. He isn't going to give attention to a bunch of nobodies.
Shocking performance by Craig! Unbelievable that an old person who’s closer to depart this world doesn’t even know God, the one who will judge him after his death!
After this phenomenal debate performance from Hijab, I think there is no one left to debate. It's time to seek competition on another planet, because it's very clear there is no longer any competition here on planet earth. Allahu Akbar!
There are Hindu scholars who got that much knowledge that worshipped by their lund bhakt yet none of them are ready to face dawahwise or Muhammad hijab 😅😅
Getting schooled by William Lane Craig. It was very clear from the debate that Craig was on a completely different level. It was like a bearded kindergartener debating a teacher and the teacher trying to understand how the kindergartener could think their bogus arguments are actually sound. Then after the kindergartener gets all of their attacks refuted, they declare they won and none of their arguments were answered. May the Lord open your eyes. ❤
@@balladbay2037 It was an illustration as a starting place to help people conceptualize something about God. It wasn't the argument. If you don't like the illustration, that's fine. Ignore it. Illustrations are used by God quite often to help finite humans understand infinite truths. If the illustration isn't helpful for you, then you don't need to use it. It actually is a helpful illustration as a starting point (while obviously saying there is an infinite difference--it was just to help us grasp the concept), but if you don't like it because your self-proclaimed prophet hated dogs, said angels can't come into a house if a dog is in there, black dogs were demons, and their lives should be ended, that's not our problem. God created dogs as beautiful creatures no matter how many false things Muhammad said about them. Jesus compared Himself to a bronze snake, a door, a mother hen, bread, etc. If you don't like those, you don't like Jesus and you disagree with Jesus. And you'll be accountable for that on the Day of Judgment, using your own messed up presuppositions to reject what the Messiah said.
@@James-ny2xlyour comment is very kindergarten, sounds like a child crying because he can't accept defeat, you watched this whole debate with cognitive dissonance, William lane Craig couldn't even explain away the trinity, instead attack the Qur'an, just become someone is a professor doesn't mean they are correct in what they say, this was about trinity and incoherency and he failed massively, he provided no evidence of trinity ever spoken by Jesus, quite shocking for a professor to do that, then he went wayward with his analogies....
@@nazeemsultan1038 Even if Muslims and Christians disagree with what Jesus's message was, we can all agree that Abraham and Moses never preached or believed in the Trinity. On the Day of Judgement, the Muslims end up wherever Abraham and Moses end up and we all know the Prophets, peace and blessings upon them all, are going to Paradise.
How do you know the Quran is from God? Muslims: The Quran said so How do you know God said so? Muslims: Mohammed said so How do you know Mohammed wasn’t lying? Muslims: The Quran said he wasn’t Who told you to believe the Quran? MOHAMMED Did anyone else see the angels or hear the revelations? Muslims: No So why do you trust Mohammed? Muslims: Because the Quran said he’s Perfect Who told you to trust the Quran? MOHAMMED This logic is why Muslims should be the most pitied people.
"We Muslims do not realize what a blessing it is from Allah that we are Muslims. Think about how the disbeliever struggles with his own intellect to justify his belief."
Brother Hijab please invite Dr Craig to your podcast and have a lengthy discussion talking about Islamic tawheed vs Christian trinity. I think a debate wasn't sufficient for such a heavy topic to discussed in this format between two acedemics.
Dr Craig Lane conceded to Hijab's critique claiming that God's example for him is like a three headed dog or conjoined twins, that's literally confirming three gods. Christianity is dead, three times over.
I understand your comment. However if we simply look at God's plan to send Jesus to help us, it should not be so confusing. If our Creator understands that human beings are not infallible and that we are sinners, He must have had a plan ( and still has such a plan ) to help us. Such a plan would be God's love for His creation. So I do appreciate your honesty. Peace of God to you and your family.
@@sttof10it took Allah 600 years to send a prophet from Arabia to say that Jesus is not God lol. What would happen to all the people between the 600 years? Allah sure would judge them doesn't he lol
@@Ppm1845 same thing happened to the people before 2000 Year before Jesus born because there were people ( surprise) also by saying Jesus born that's bad 😔 according to you god born can you believe it 🤣 since I debunked ur question/issue. Who told you in that 600 years Gap people believed same thing u believe now? 😨
@@incisivethoughts4416He becomes a monotheist when debating atheists, using Quranic arguments, and arguments from Al Ghazali etc When debating Muslims, he throws logic out if the window and resorts to "belief".
Are you really this daft? It was his closing remarks and he was inviting Muslims to have be open-minded about the nature of Jesus Christ. Hijab did the same with respect to Christians and Islam. This is not preaching whatsoever.
William Craig comes as close to any Christian to convincingly arguing the Christian talking points…but he’s still miles away from even a 1st year student in Medina.
@@user-user-user-user. How do you know the Quran is from God? Muslims: The Quran said so How do you know God said so? Muslims: Mohammed said so How do you know Mohammed wasn’t lying? Muslims: The Quran said he wasn’t Who told you to believe the Quran? MOHAMMED Did anyone else see the angels or hear the revelations? Muslims: No So why do you trust Mohammed? Muslims: Because the Quran said he’s Perfect Who told you to trust the Quran? MOHAMMED This logic is why Muslims should be the most pitied people.
Dr. Craig is a respectable man, but his arguments for the Trinity, especially the candle analogy part failed miserably just as brother Mohammad said. Edit: I just learned that this guy justifies genocide and mass murder, including the content in the Bible and genocides like Israel vs children. I take this statement back.
@vaccino3359 I appreciate the kind words about Craig. The point of the candle is that each match is a sufficient condition for the candle being lit, but that no logical or metaphysical impossibility is entailed in this analogy. That means there is at least one case where overdeterminism does not entail logical or metaphysical impossibility. In order to show that the trinity is incoherent, Hijab needed to show that the trinity cannot be like this example, and must be like the examples he brought up. But all his examples involved physical causes where multiple people cannot fit in the same space, which is obviously not a problem when the cause of the universe's existence is immaterial. So I really don't know where he was going with that...
@vaccino3359 But even if Hijab is right that we're stuck with either (a) one member of the trinity "fully" causing creation, or (b) several members "partially" causing creation, why is that a problem for the trinity? If I were a Christian and really bought Hijab's dilemma, I'd just pick (b) in this case. So again, I don't know where he was going with this...
@joshuapena6757 picking b isn't an option for you since it results in partialism. Partialism is the belief that each person of the Trinity is 1/3 God. For example, Jesus is 33.33% God. Trinity is the belief that all three are 100% God. Partialism is against the Trinity, and is held heretical by the Scholars of Christianity, even Dr.Craig here. Which is why he didn't accept it.
@joshuapena6757 Here's the problem, though: Craig usage of the candle example is misleading. He used the example because, yes, two matches light the candle, but one flame is the result. However, when two matches use 100% of their capability to light the candle, the flame results to be 200%, not 100%. See the point? Dr. Craig is claiming that even though 2 matches light the candle, each with 100% contribution, the candle is still 100%, which is a logical mistake. 1 + 1 ≠1, 100% + 100% ≠ 100%. Btw we as muslims have no problem having respect for educated people like Dr. Craig. We DO, however, have a problem with uneducated psychotic RATS like Scam Shampoo, David Wood, Apus, Avery (Godlogic), and people like such. They don't even defend Christianity. They just base their content on attacking Islam.
Jesus:"I and the Father are one" Jewish listeners responded by saying, "You, a mere man, claim to be God". Jesus: "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father". Jesus: “He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives the one who sent me.” Christians: Sounds like Jesus is claiming to be God and one with the Father. Muslims: No He isn't. Christians: This is what it says directly in the Bible. Muslims: No it doesn't. 🤔🤔
MH you nailed the whole concept of mainstream Christian ideology in immensely strategic detail. William didn't have a leg to stand upon. Utterly destroyed.
I'm a Christian believer but I didn't watch the debate. I tend to avoid discussing the "Trinity". However I'm not trying to be disrespectful to the scholars involved in this video. My priority is ( or should be ) understanding God's plan of salvation and mercy to human beings. Since we are not infallible and we are sinners, God must have a plan based upon His knowledge of creation. A plan to help us. Anyhow, I'm slowly learning about Islam. And I respect the strong discipline of Muslims regarding prayer and good deeds. Respectfully from Florida USA
may allah guide you to the truth. most debates are about trinity adn monotheism because they are the core of each religion, if the core shatters the rest of that religion is no longer the truth. what I want to say sincerely may allah guide to the truth before it's too late.
Respect and love from Egypt bro. Just a question: What God exactly are you trying to understand his(their according to Christianity?) plan? I am not attacking, I wish you all the best. May Allah guide your heart to Islam, John
God's plan for humanity is very simple: Worship Him and Him alone (since He is the one who created absolutely everything you see before you including you), turn to Him for help and guidance, turn to Him for forgiveness (since we are the creation and not the Creator thus we are not perfect like Him, sin is inevitable for us. God would've never created humanity if humanity were perfect and sinless). Do good things, help those in need, stay away from things He forbids as it is for our best interest to do so since he is our Creator and knows His creation best. He literally gave humanity the blueprints to salvation since the beginning of time through His messengers. Most notably Moses, Jesus, & Muhammad. Every single messenger preached the same exact thing, to worship God and God alone. If you followed what every messenger preached (since they were the greatest examples for the people of their time) then you worshiped the God that they worshipped and worshipped God alone. God entrusted His first 2 written blueprints to the people of the messengers times (i.e The Torah He revealed to Moses and the Injil He revealed to Jesus). Overtime those scriptures were altered by the people, they added, removed, and changed things to fit their whims and desires. God knew this so He made a promise to mankind that He would perfect, protect, and preserve His final blueprint for the rest of time and humanity and that he would clarify what came before. That final blueprint is what you know today as the Qur'an, His final revelation revealed to His final messenger Muhammad. I'm glad to hear you are slowly learning about Islam and I pray that God directs you to sources of knowledge in the religion as opposed to those who may cast doubt in your heart. I truly feel like you are on the cusp of realizing that the answers have been in front of you this whole time. Don't listen to the keyboard warriors on this app or any other platform who put forth emotional arguments that are constantly refuted time and time again. Do your due diligence with humbleness, an open mind and an open heart and I promise you that you'll have a a true sense of clarity on the test that this life is. Peace be with you
@@allwyn3054C princess refuses to have a moderated debate in a neurtral channel, he wants to be the mod so he can mute the component whenever he wants, MH humiliated that coward in 2020 when he sexually harrased a 15 muslim girl, CP is a beta male coward just like ur daddy jesus who depended on prostitutes to feed him (luke 8:3) 😂😂😂😂
Key takeaways: Trinitarian: "There is exactly one God, and there are exactly three persons." Real monotheist: "Okay, so do those three persons have independent wills? If yes, then that's three independent wills. How exactly can you then uphold the logical necessity of there being one single undivided uncaused cause? If no, then what really differentiates these "persons"? What makes each one a "person" that is not the other? You'd simply have to end up saying that Father is Son, Son is Holy Spirit, and Holy Spirit is Father." Trinitarian: "It's three wills, but they always act in harmony due to divine perfect." True monotheist: "So you are establishing a metric of perfection that would be external to each will. Hence, each will is contingent upon the other. So, in effect, you are making the will of God contingent." Trinitarian: "The father is fully God, so he can will to create something without the will of the son." Real monotheist: "If so, then the father is fully God, while the son is not. If not, then the coming into existence of the son is an inhibitor to the will of the father. Ie, the Holy Spirit, and the son have stripped off the omnipotence of the father."
@@pavelcrestin1 Tawhid is the belief of oneness in Allah. The debate doesn't happen on the oneness of Allah, rather the attributes of Allah, whether they are literal or not. Using this logic, WLC shot catholics/protestants and blah blah blah right on their buttocks.
@@pavelcrestin1 Tawhid is literally "monotheism" translated in Arabic language, there is no other word for it in Arabic. The absolute bold faced brazenness to utter a lie that there is no consensus on Monotheism in Islam is shameful, and sad.
@@mohamedab9033 Tawhid is 'better translated as unity'. Unity means two or more came together to form one. So Al-lah isn't one. Btw in every other translation in Koran, Tawhid is translated as 'unity'
Why stop at 3 parts to God. Let's have 7 or 13 or 23. This doesn't make sense? Also it's pathetic to see Christians try to say Muslims don't believe in one concept of Tawheed.
You should see the nonsense on their channels. The Christians think they won 😂. I guess if you believe in the trinity then any sort of delusional state would be reality to you.
@@jadenreyes9028 Also Why did Hijab run from the Debate with a bunch of gremlins in the UA-cam comment section? Simple, because they aren't on his level. I'm pretty sure he also said that he only debates those with a large enough following and good credibility. He isn't going to give attention to a bunch of nobodies.
Apus is a christian now. He doesnt say he is. He says he is agnostic. But after his visit to israel he “felt” something. I think he is just trying to keep his christian audiance engaged😂😂. Because now he is defending judaism and christianity on all the points he used to attack islam on
After the debate the Losers Defeated by Hijab Club™ had a multi-hour discussion where they cried and consoled each other as the PTSD was activated by another Hijab debate.
There are no losers, just A loser which is craig, many christians knew beforehand he would lose, he is a very bad theological apologist, he is a crowned the top apologist by many because he defends the faith against atheism mainly. He is a also heretic in many areas.
It is an analogy. Analogies are imperfect when trying to discuss the almighty, eternal God. We don't need any perfect physical analogy for something to be true about God. There is nothing perfectly analogous to God having no beginning and no end, but that doesn't mean God isn't eternal. Even with the very limited time he had to respond, Craig did an excellent job refuting the bogus arguments of Hijab. Praise the Triune God!
@@James-ny2xl Let's make this even simpler. 2 persons push a button at the exact same time. Both are sufficient and could do it alone but only 1 person is necessary for pushing a button. ONE is necessary the other is redundant. God is necessary and cannot be redundant therefore God is ONE AND ONLY ONE. Stop saying three.
Debating Christians about Trinity is like arguing with a wife. It's an argument we can't win no matter what evidence we bring up. They just won't listen 👂
Let me ask you a question is your soul body mind voice you or are they 4 different people 😂 you say trinity ain't logical but by that logic you think every element of yourself is separate people
@@ipe3nnj exactly, my soul is part of me not fully me , my mind is part me of me too, none of them can stand without each other, they are all dependant on each other, to complete the fully me. On the other hand what you are saying is The soul is 100% fully the person, the mind is 100% fully the person and the body is 100% fully the person, yet they are not three persons it's just one Person. How could any sane person in any realm believe that.
Defending Christianity = gargantuan mental gymnastics, gas-lighting and militant acceptance of logical contradictions. Defending Islam = ‘GOD is 1”. What is so plain & simple is also what is the truth.
Exactly brother! So simple so logical, the same message all the prophets brought, no prophets prophesied a future son of God coming or trinity, they all affirmed 1 God.
@@petermckenzie580 why's Israel a better country to live in than every Muslim country and then there are 2 million Jewish Christians and 0 million Jewish Muslims?
@@TheDawahCenter 1 explain Isaiah 7:14, 9:6, Psalm 110:1, Matthew 1:23, 22:43? 2 Better yet explain how Jesus is the Messiah? 3 There are 2 million Jewish Christians and 0 million Jewish Muslims. So Islam is losing to Christianity among either ethnic Jews or ethnic gentiles. But the ethnic Jews' conversion unanimously to Christianity over Islam suggests Islam has no idea what 'Messiah' is. Why? 4 Pathetic. Laughable. Jewish Christian Michael L Brown has 5 volumes 'Jewish Objections to Jesus'. Jewish Muslims have 0 volumes. Why? 5 Gentile Muslims have negative 1 volumes. Lol!!! So pathetic. No wonder Israel keeps winning militarily. Why do you think terrorists can't beat Israel? 6 No wonder Jews & Christians have a billion Nobel prizes while Muslims barely have any. Jews/Muslims are 0.2%/20% of population and then win 20%/0.2% of Nobel prizes. Why do you think this is the case? 7 Why do 99.9% of people prefer to live in Israel over any Muslim country?
@@GaryAdams-t8dHe couldn't defend the trinity? Further proving the Mainstream Christian Views Are false,irrational. And Also Hijab proved he is a Heretic. And at the last he got full preacher mode. 😂
@@GaryAdams-t8dconstantly trying to change the subject from trinity to tawhid and trying to portray that tawhid is complicated and can't be understood like trinity, lol 😂
I believe the following points, which were missing in the debate, are helpful: I am Muslim. Here are some questions, I pose to Dr. Craig: Q1. Let us grant that your concept of one god with 3 persons is coherent. The 3 persons out of benevolence and love have the same knowledge, the same will, …. And all 3 act in concert. What would be incoherent, if these 3 persons were 3 gods with 1 person each, with the same properties of the 3 persons of the one god: “benevolence, love, the same knowledge, the same will, …. And all 3 act in concert”? If you were asked to defend polytheism (as an exercise), would you be able to construct a defensible coherent version of polytheism? Q2. Is there anything incoherent in having one god with 2 persons, 4 persons, 5 persons, … n persons (even: an infinite number of persons)?? Is there anything special in the number 3? (I thought special numbers in divine attributes are constrained to be 0,1 and infinity)?? Q3. If the doctrine of trinity is a cornerstone of the knowledge of the true God, should it not be expected that the chosen servants and messengers of God should be aware of it? Do you believe that Noah, Abraham, and Moses knew of trinity and believed in trinity? Q4. Do you believe that the doctrines of the true faith are revealed gradually (step by step), that the Old Testament only revealed one person, the Father, and that the New Testament revealed the other 2 persons? Why is it then impossible, that later, when Christ comes to earth again, he will reveal to mankind the trueness of many different persons, some of which were perhaps mistaken to be Gods in Hinduism and other polytheistic religions? Could it be, that, Hinduism (e.g.), is an evolution of an originally “monotheistic” religion with a “multi-person”-God? Q5. What is the degree of certainty, with which you state your belief in trinity, if you disregard personal experience and restrict yourself to reasonable objective arguments and facts? Is it not all grounded in the degree of certainty of the transmission of the “New Testament” and of the degree of certainty of its interpretation? Q6. But these 2 pillars are at least controversial? There are undeniable proofs of the corruption in the New Testament. Is it “unreasonable” to doubt the honesty and the integrity of Paul? Is it unreasonable to reject the “Gospel of John“ as divine revelation? Didn’t an intelligent man like Isaac Newton, conclude Unitarianism from the same bible? Q7. Do you believe that many Christian communities believed false doctrines of faith in the first centuries (Jewish Christians, Gnostics, followers of Arius, followers of Nestor, the Coptic Church, the Greek-Orthodox Church, the Catholic Church, …) and that it is possible, that all Christians have some wrong doctrines of belief ()e.g. about trinity) for centuries, until some “scientists” reveal the right interpretation of the Bible (perhaps in the 21st century)? Is it not possible, that new reliable manuscripts about the life and teachings of Jesus may be discovered, and that many new errors in the gospels are found? Could it be that these manuscripts will prove the truth of the Christian sect “Islam”?
God is complex, yet allows us to comprehend Him in simple Ways Best analogy is the sun, distinct yet one INVISIBLE Gas Giant, VISIBLE as yellow ball in the sky, GENERATING life through its heat and light The One God, E- Lo- Heem, UNMANIFEST/ As FATHER Who dwells in unapproachable Light MANIFEST in the flesh / The Word/ Logos/ Memra in flesh as JESUS YESHUA INDWELLING SPIRIT Infusing life, flowing from The Father Through His Son into the Believer.
They way he said “Tawheed” I think he was pandering to his Christian audience. He made it seem as if it is something scary. And concluded that it is very confusing. Tawheed is the clearest statement about the oneness of God. Very simple. God is one, He created everything. He doesn’t depend on anything or anyone.
In other words, for the argument of inhibition, using WLC analogy, a single match may NOT be able to ignite an entire log, but 3 matches combined may be able to ignite the entire log. That is to say, he's taking away the omnipotence of Allah (SWT) to ignite any log, and his model is dependent on a combined effect.
Respect to Dr. Craig. Respectful. Thoughtful. I appreciate listening to a debate without personal attacks, deviation and circling. Hijab really exposed the idea of Trinity here. I studied it years ago and couldn't make sense of it. The contradiction lies in the idea that God can be fractioned or separated into parts of a whole.
Exactly 💯 Like if the Father can already create the whole universe by Himself, what is the need of the son and the holy spirit? 👍 + The bible already states that the Father is the ONLY true God and that He is only ONE (John 17:3)
Ask yourself the question: Why did God create us? The answer is: Because He needs us, meaning God is incomplete. Ask yourself: Why did God send Muhammad? The answer is: To guide people. If God sent an angel to Muhammad and did not send anyone else and did not send miracles with Muhammad? Because God is stup id
I think the point he made was if u use two lighters to light a candle, it isn't the case that the two lighter are simultaneously the **direct** cause of the lighting of the candle. Rather the two lighters would both cause a certain amount of fire which would ***partially*** contribute to the creation of a bigger flame. This flame would cause the lighting of the candle. So here u have one cause (the fire) producing an effect (the lighting of the candle. So nothing here entail two distinct entities being fully responsible for the same effect.
@@natsutabbaa5324 So according to this logic, a firing squad shoots a man. A single shot can kill the man, so when the whole firing squad fires, the man is........more dead? Mini Hijab is a coward. Let's not forget he ran away from CP.
Really admire the the mannerism and best behavior of William Lane Craig. The debate happened in such a scholarly manner. Thoroughly enjoyed it and learned so much. Really Brilliant.
"Say that Allah is one and only.Allah is the self sufficient . He begets not nor is he begotten And there is nothing like Him (Allah) " and this is the simplest doctrine of the islamic standard of believing and worshiping one God that if someone believes in... they will be saved!!!!
This convo dived deep into the heart of Christian doctrine from a critical, philosophical angle. What’s particularly striking is Hijab’s critique of Craig’s representation of the Trinity-it’s bold, and it highlights how even within Christianity, there’s no one-size-fits-all understanding of God’s nature, and Dr. Craig’s bold critique of Aquinas adds a refreshing layer, suggesting that even revered theological giants may not fully capture the biblical essence of the Trinity. The distinction between Social and Latin Trinitarianism is a prime example of this complexity. Craig’s willingness to challenge even Aquinas on this shows that philosophical reasoning is essential in dissecting these beliefs. It’s a conversation that pushes both traditions to clarify their core ideas. Also I liked how Hijab invited Dr. Craig to confront the profound questions surrounding divine nature. He really made him question his beliefs.
ighting a candle with two matchsticks versus one could lead to some subtle differences: Speed of Ignition: Using two matchsticks will likely light the candle faster because more heat is being applied from two sources simultaneously. The combined flame could increase the speed at which the wick catches fire. Heat Intensity: The heat from two matchsticks will be higher than from one, potentially causing the wick to burn slightly more vigorously at the start. Match Burn Time: Two matchsticks might burn out quicker since they will feed off each other’s heat, potentially consuming more fuel rapidly, whereas one matchstick burns more slowly on its own. Wax Melting: The higher heat from two matchsticks could melt more wax around the wick initially, potentially creating a larger pool of melted wax earlier in the process.
I think in essence the physics is irrelevant. 2 people push an elevator button at the same time would be closer to what he wanted to say. each person is fully capable and sufficient. The problem is that since ONLY ONE IS NECESSARY the other would have to be redundant. God is necessary and cannot be redundant. Therefore God is ONE and the trinity fails.
You are not a Christian if you don’t believe in the trinity but investigate it more before you run away don’t take advice from hijab he is a fake Islamist study your own religion and talk to educated Christian’s
(135) They say, "Be Jews or Christians [so] you will be guided." Say, "Rather, [we follow] the religion of Abraham, inclining toward truth, and he was not of the polytheists."[47] [47]- Those who associate others with Allāh in worship. (67) Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allāh]. And he was not of the polytheists.[129] [129]- Those who associate others with Allāh.
Let me explain how Craig lost this debate to lay audience: Craig resorted to flawed analogies and examples to defend. Let's extend his flame example to next step, Just imagine two guns shot at the head at the same time. A gun shot to the head means you have a bullet but 2 gunshots to the head means that you now have 2 bullets to the head. In the analogy, a single gunshot to the head represents something complete and effective on its own. One bullet is enough to cause death-there's no need for more to achieve the result. Now, imagine you add a second gunshot. Although the result is still death, something has changed. You no longer have just one bullet-you now have two bullets, which is different from the original situation. It’s not the same as having just one; the overall picture has been altered, even if the outcome (death) remains the same. How does this relate to the Trinity? Just like in the gunshot analogy, one God is enough. Adding more persons-Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-changes the original concept of having a single, indivisible God. With one God (like one gunshot), the concept of God is simple and straightforward: one being, one essence, one authority. When you add the second and third persons (like adding more bullets), even if all are considered “God,” it’s no longer the same as having just one simple God. Now, you're dealing with something more complex, with multiple parts or persons, even though Christians claim it’s still “one God.” The analogy shows that adding persons changes the basic nature of God. Just like having two gunshots isn’t the same as having one, having three persons isn't the same as having just one God. This challenges the idea that God can be truly "one" in the simplest sense if there are three distinct entities, even if they are all part of the same divine being. So, the point is that oneness means one, without anything added. If you add something (like a second or third person), even if it’s still called “one God,” the simplicity of being just one is lost.
@@saidibrahim5931 I think people get lost in the physical analogies. The simplest is something like you push a button and the elevator comes. 2 people do it at the same time even though it only takes one. Each person is fully capable and sufficient but only one is necessary which makes the other one redundant. There can only be one God (necessary Entity). God cannot be redundant or codependent etc. so the trinity fails
Dr.Lang Craig I grew up as a christian and I had questions and the only answer was because the bible said so, I was lost. Alhamdulillah for Feb. 28th I said my shahada and I did my first ramadan and I've never felt closer to GOD than when i became Muslim. Allahu Akbar.
@@tns8022 is taqiya what you meant to type? You think I'm faking this?? I'm 30 years old. I live in the US, grew up in a puerto rican house hold, so as Hispanics cristianity is first. I grew up protestant not catholic. I had answers about everything in the bible and I would get the same response. So sorry you don't believe me. I am a proud Muslim. Alhamdulillah
@@i-Lion9 I can understand Christians becoming athiest due to personal experiences, but I will never accept anybody leaving Christianity for Islam unless he is a rank pervert and want to feel comfortable in his perversions . if Mohammed the greatest of all perverts is the ideal man to emulate in Mohammeds own religion then any criminal/pervert would become an Islamic saint. How come God condone perversion and sin only for Mohammed? He indulged in necrophilia, took his own daughter in law for himself under allahs orders (his own alter ego is allah) only retards would believe in the "prophethood" of Mohammed. Only prophet who couldn't distinguish an angel of God from satan is Mohammed!! That says a lot!!
@@i-Lion9 and you believe Islam that denies a historically accepted claim of the crucifixion to be the truth? Im curious according to Islam why did the Jews want to crucify Jesus?
Wow, truly an end of an Era. I have the utmost respect for Dr. Craig, and his work. This exchange was cleary one sided, and hijab was swinging the hammer. Well done 👏 may allah reward you and preserve your work.
While WLC had strong moments, especially in defending the biblical doctrine of the Trinity, MH's persistent challenges about necessary agreement, causality, and divine partialism put WLC on the defensive throughout the debate. WLC's shift to a discussion about the resurrection, rather than continuing to address the coherence of the Trinity, made it seem as though MH had successfully cornered him on the topic at hand.
Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction 01:50 - Opening Remarks by Dr. William Lane Craig 03:35 - Claim of misunderstanding of the Trinity within the Quran 04:03 - Explanation of the basic doctrine of the Trinity 04:52 - Claim regarding interpretation of Tawheed in Islam 06:09 - Opening Remarks by Br. Mohammed Hijab 06:59 - Critiques of Dr. Craig’s representation of mainstream Christianity 08:14 - Exposing the Error in Dr. Craig's interpretation of Quran 5:116 09:26 - Response from Dr. William Lane Craig 11:54 - Challenging Dr. Craig’s representation of social trinitarianism 12:31 - Trinitarian Doctrine: Dr. Craig’s interpretation vs historical orthodox beliefs 13:10 - Discrepencies regarding the eternal generation of the Son 14:19 - Dr. Craig's closing remarks: defense of the doctrine of the Trinity 14:45 - Dr. Craig's Critique of Gregory of Nyssa’s Explanation 15:10 - William Hasker’s model about the Son's eternal generation & the Spirit's procession 16:25 - Challenging Dr. Craig's denial of the eternal begotten nature of the Son 17:11 - Alignment b/w Craig's views & Islamic theology regarding God's nature 18:49 - Dr. Craig defense of his position on the Trinity 20:06 - Dr. Craig acknowledges shared truths between Christianity & Islam 20:56 - Highlighting Craig's concerns about subordinationism in Christian doctrine 21:55 - Analysing the Complexity of Doctrinal Interpretation of the Trinity 22:26 - Analysis of Incoherence in Trinitarian Beliefs 23:29 - Critique of William Lane Craig’s Model of the Trinity 24:00 - Dr. Craig defends his position by referencing early Church fathers 26:03 - Nature of God: Christianity vs Islam 26:58 - Questions Regarding Trinitarian Agreement 29:33 - Examining the elationship b/w the Father & the Son 31:56 - Divine Perfection vs. Arbitrariness 32:25 - Issues with the Analogies for Understanding Trinity (Cerberus: the three-headed dog) 33:10 - Dr. Craig's explanation of the Analogies 35:29 - Contradictions in the Trinitarian Models 37:01 - Debate on the Nature of Divine Responsibility & Causal Overdetermination 38:30 - The Trinity acting undividedly in creation 39:30 - Challenges to Dual Responsibility 40:28 - Dr. Craig reiterates his stance on causal overdetermination 41:05 - Refutation of the candles analogy: Inconsistencies in dual creator scenarios 44:21 - Limitations of the Analogies 45:31 - Scrutinizing the Laws of Logic & Divine Will 46:20 - Dr. Craig's views on Omnipotence & Inhibition 47:33 - Implications of Creation in Concert: Limitations on God's will 48:35 - Quranic Perspective on Divine Uniqueness 49:06 - Incoherence in Trinitarian Models 53:16 - Dr. Craig's closing statement 56:11 - Hijab's closing statement 59:14 - Dr Craig's final remarks 1:00:04 - Hijab's final remarks
@@Jadoon0I0critical thinking time: you use Hebrew scriptures to completely misinterpret their verses to justify your false narrative. Seriously think about that for a minute.. You have absolutely no right to use Jewish scriptures which contradict The fake meanings you ascribe to them. But since you have.. take your last reference Isaiah 48:16. Isaiah 48:16 as, "The Lord God and His Spirit have sent me." However, a proper rendering of the verse reads: "And now the Lord God has sent me, and His spirit." The last two Hebrew words in this verse are shelachani ve-rucho ("He has sent me, and His spirit"), with "me, and His spirit" being the direct objects of "sent." Even though a definite direct object is usually preceded by the participle 'et, this grammatical rule is frequently not observed in the Bible, e.g., Exodus 15:9; Judges 5:12; Psalms 9:5, 20:3-4, 45:4. In fact, 'et rarely occurs in the poetic parts of the Bible. Thus, the meaning of the verse is that God has sent Isaiah accompanied by His prophetic spirit. There is no mention of the third member of the Trinity doctrine. Instead, Isaiah affirms that God, who has placed within him the power of prophecy, sent him. The spirit is always at the disposal of God to bestow upon whomever He chooses, as stated in Numbers 11:17, 25, 29; Isaiah 42:1, 44:3; Joel 3:1. If this spirit referred to the third member of a coequal tri-unity god, how could it be ordered about at the discretion of the other members of this group? We see that the Jewish Scriptures teach that "spirit" does not refer to the third person of a tri-unity god. Thus God says to Moses, "And I will take of the spirit which is upon you, and I will put it upon them. . . . And He took of the spirit which was upon him, and He put it upon the seventy men, the elders, and it came to pass, when the spirit rested upon them, that they prophesied. . . . And Moses said . . . 'would that all the Lord's people were prophets, that the Lord would put His spirit upon them'" (Numbers 1:17, 25, 29). Such a condition makes it obviously impossible to consider the spirit as being an associate of God, let alone coequal with Him.
In opening remarks "There are two fundamental tenants 1. There is EXACTLY one God 2. There are 3 persons who are properly called God...That's it. This is a straightforward doctrine." How is this logically sound?
@@OniLeafNin what about ancient Greeks or Hindus? 1000 gods 1 substance? or 1000 gods/persons "part of the same Godhead"? God is One. Don't say three. Just One. plain simple. No need for philosophy or mental gymnastics.
@@overoscar1788 God is one, but also being itself is sustained in God, the divine simplicity is not destroyed by the category of personhood anymore than each cloud or speck of dust changes God’s nature
My biggest criticism of Muhammad Hijab is that he is struggling to speak without running out of breath and needs to focus on cardio rather than 100kg weights for now. Other than that the arguments have been flawless. 😂😂😂
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This is the text: You say that Muslim theologians don’t disagree about the who-ness of God well of course it’s true that Islam is a monotheistic religion and in the same way Christians agree on trinitarianism but the amount of disagreement about the nature of God and his attributes and so forth is just as diverse in Islam and Christianity as for the Holy Spirit you don’t need to wait until the fourth century for him to be granted full Divine status that occurs in the new Testament itself as I’ve already stated. Now with respect to the three wills I think that this follows from divine perfection you have three perfect persons who are equal in goodness omnipotence and omniscience and therefore it’s perfectly plausible that they would always agree and would not come into disharmony with each other so this is a Christian postulate that I think is perfectly reasonable.
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alright thanks
Great job akhi
Mashallah Mohamed hajib
Great debate @MohammedHijab, I want to point out that there were two times during the debate where the audio cut off for Dr.William
William Lane Craig lost even before he compared God to a 3 headed dog 😂😂😂
We heard Sun Analogies, Car Analogies, 3 headed dog Analogies, the next analogy would be of 10 headed Ravana😂😂😂
Dog is Allah
Medusa ahh explaining
That's what Hez no bollocks said lololol
Hijab is not an effective debater. The actual problem is that if 3 minds consistently align in their gazillions of decisions and actions, then their wills are not entirely independent. Their are underlying supreme principle or the source from which the individual wills derive. In this way craig is placing a common ideal above them...
im surprised he had the audacity to say that touheed is more confusing and complex then trinity get this man some help
Wa'Allahi, I, too, am shocked he said it!
He is trapped in the real matrix
Muslims have liretally killed eachother over the understanding of touheed, sweep that under the rug I guess
Audacious it was, arrogance in disbelief
the salafi conception of tawhid is.
In regards to the Dr.s closing statement: I was born into a Muslim family, and stopped identifying as a Muslim or practicing for a few decades. I was fully agnostic and dabbling in spirituality, deeply seeking to know God or to understand God it to feel peace in my being. I am so grateful to have that perspective now, after returning with fresh eyes like a child. Learning to pray, learning the Quran, learning the seera of the prophet. I thank god everyday for my return to Islam.
May Allah strengthen your faith!
May Allah keep you steadfast in Deen and reward you immensely in this world and next. Ameen
May Allah aza wajjal continue to guide you. Ameen
Best thing is you were CHOSEN by Allah swt himself
What confirmed your faith ?
Excellent. How can a man 2000 years later claim to understand the trinity better than centuries of Christian scholars? Truth is that the trinity was a later creation, never part of the early Christian theology.
“1 god who is 3 persons” does equal nonsensical mumbo jumbo
Nice to see you here, sister!
Wanna debate this?
@@SawarimHaqq 😊
Dear Fatima
Hijab...
*Who is Powerful ? Triune God - God the Father, The Creator, God the Son, the redeemer (from our sins) and God the Holy Spirit The Sanctifier*
or Man made Allah and His baqri as the redeemer to redeem from mankind sins, specially when comes to mass violences, murders,...?
Muslims got it right ? or still want to follow single headed dictator false god and not the actual Creator The Father / Redeemer The Son/ Sanctifier The Holy Spirit, The Triune God ? Who calls you His Children and not slaves, choice is yours!!!
'Indeed, falsehood is bound to vanish' ~ Qur'an
It didn't. Started with 11 and is going on strong after 2000 years. Your Islam however doesn't like free speech and would kill people who don't bow. Difference.
*What your imams don't tell you*
Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*
*What your imams don't tell you*
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
*this is a mistake in the Qur'an!*
@@TS-zd2ud in john 3 verse 16 , its says the begotten son of god , so yeah in christiannity they believe that jesus is the begotten son of god , if the son of god means a righteous prophet yeah it can be accepted but in the bible , lot of prophets were called son of god as they were righteous and virtuous people , so that doesnt make jesus more special than all of them , so there is no mistake my friend , u gotta educate yourself
@@TS-zd2udwhat u don't understand is common sense that god is not a man but anyway ur too dumb to even understand what the word 'from' god means....
I used to be a Christian. I struggled for decades to understand the Trinity. No one could even begin to explain it to me in a way that made logical sense.
When I started studying Islam, it took me 3 seconds to understand Tawhid.
Case closed.
Alhamdulillah ❤️ may ALLAH guide everyone to Islam
Mashallah ❤😊
3 seconds but Muslims have been killing each other for centuries 😂. You're smarter than them aren't you?
Islam ain't an upgrade at all lmao. The mystery of God isn't something to be bragged by muslims as if they do, Sam shamoun would gladly destroy their claims as well. The only thing greater than Christianity factually is agnosticism.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think one’s ability to understand certain doctrines in religion is a testament to that particular religions falsity or truth.
*Is the Trinity Coherent? | Mohammed Hijab vs Dr. William Lane Craig*
0:00:30 Introducing Dr William Lane Craig
0:01:12 Introducing Mohammed Hijab
0:01:39 Introducing topic, and format of the debate
_The debate_
0:02:09 Dr WLC's opening statement/remarks
0:06:09 MH's opening statement/remarks
0:09:29 Dr WLC's first response
0:11:54 MH's first response
0:14:19 Dr WLC's second response
0:16:25 MH's second response
0:18:49 Dr WLC's third response
0:20:55 MH's third response
0:24:00 Dr WLC's fourth response
0:26:01 MH's fourth response
0:27:40 Dr WLC's fifth response
0:28:51 MH's fifth response
0:30:15 Dr WLC's sixth response
0:31:56 MH's sixth response
0:33:08 Dr WLC's seventh response
0:35:28 MH's seventh response
0:38:04 Dr WLC's eighth response
0:39:13 MH's eighth response
0:40:29 Dr WLC's ninth response
0:41:06 MH's ninth response
0:43:14 Dr WLC's tenth response
0:44:19 MH's tenth response
0:46:26 Dr WLC's eleventh response
0:47:30 MH's eleventh response
0:49:57 Dr WLC's twelfth response
0:51:26 MH's twelfth response
0:53:17 Dr WLC's closing statement
0:56:10 MH's closing statement
0:59:15 Dr WLC's final comment on MH's views
1:00:04 MH's final comment on Dr WLC's views
1:01:15 Thanking the two debaters
JZK
Good work👍
Thank you so much❤
👍
Thanks
Amazing debate!! Once again, Islam proves to be the truth without having to do mental gymnastics.
Alhamdulillah, after being atheist for 10 years Allah guided me towards the right path.
I hope He will guide the rest of those who are ready to find the truth and the right path. In Shaa Allah!
You have to be joking. Hijab failed to show any incoherence with the Trinity and ran away whenever Craig talked about the issues of the Muslim view of tawhid (far from a general monotheism). Hijab barely made any arguments except attacking Craig, and when he did, Craig easily refuted it while managing to hold back laughter. This was like a kindergartener with a beard who thinks he has an amazing argument getting refuted by the teacher but stubbornly sticking with it and declaring himself the winner. This is the best Islam has got?
And Islam denies one of the most obvious facts of history--that Jesus was crucified. If you honestly believe that, you have thrown out all care for evidence and history. But you seem smarter than that, so I encourage you to look into how 100% of the evidence from the 1st century shows Jesus was crucified, and then ask yourself why He was and why Muhammad got this wrong. May the true God lead you to a true relationship with Him that leads to confidence of eternal life. ❤
@@James-ny2xl the truth is a hard pill to swallow. Navigating christian Theology is like driving with extremely blurred vision; in the end, you must rely on faith alone to get to your destination. With Islam, your destination can be seen as if it is right in front of you. Even when your faith is low, you are absolutely certain of your destination. I'm lucky to be guided from a blind christian to an able Muslim. Alhamdulillah!
I am very grateful for this - it highlights how logical & correct Islam is. Islam is the greatest gift mankind has.
Read what muhammad did to saffiyah then say this
For me Quran cannot be truth is because:🤔
Muhamad of Islam who was 50+ married a 6 years old girl ?🤯........Sunan Adi Dawad 2121,sahih bukhari 5158,sahih bukhari 5133
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Holy man of Islam Married his daughter-in-law?...The history of Al-talbari vol VIII,page 4 ….Tafir Al Jalalayn,Quran,Sura Al-Ahzab,verse 36,Quran,Sura Al-Ahzab,verse 37,Quran,Sura Al-Ahzab,verse 50,Prophet Muhammad's privilege no. 10,
Allah comes to help him by telling the guest to leave early from this wedding?...Quran,Sura Al-Ahzab,verse 53
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Married a slave after murdering the whole family and her husband? ….Sahih Muslim, book 8,no.3329...Sahih Bukhari,no.2228...The Life of Muhamad : Al-Waqidi's Kitab al-Magahazi,p.332,editor:Riziwi Faizer….Sahih Muslim,book 8, No 3328
A soldier, guided outside for the night was worried for holyman? He was worried the lady may kill him, after what he did to her family.... The history of al-Tabari vol 39,p.185
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Leave Islam, and you will be KXXX?.....Sunan an-Nasa'i 4059
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Hates with Jews???.....Sahih Muslim 2922
Sunan Adi Dawud 3030
Sahih bukari 3399
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Women are domestic animal? AL Tabari Ref: vol 9, page 113
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Can have right hands posses(sex slave)?...Quran Surat An-Nisa 4:3,Quran 23.6, QURAN 33.50
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woman's silence is her affirmation to marriage? ...Sahih Muslim 1421c
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Tried to k!ll himself(Muhmmad)?.....Sahih al-Bukhari 6982,Tarikh al-Tabari, vol 2 by Al Tabari
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Called all women devils and are more in hell?.....sahih al-Bukhari 304, sahih muslim 36:6596, sahih muslim 36:6598,sahih Bukhari 1:6:301,Quran 2:282,Sahih Muslim 1403a
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muslim women are half intelligent?
sahih al bukhari 2658, Quran 2:282,Quran 4:11
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Muhammad, Got caught having sex with his slave by his wife?...,Tafsir Jalalayan Quran 66.1...sunan an Nasa'i3959
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Because of EVE, women betrays her husband?
Sahih al-Bukhari 3399
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when a muslim women gets divorce by her husband, SHE have to marry another men if she wants to get her old husband back again?Sunan an-Nasai 3411
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Nearly divorced his wife ? In Islam as long as women is old a man can divorce her??? Jami'at-Tirmidhi 3040, sahih bukhari 2694
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Had no money to give his wife? Allah come to help him not by giving him money but by threatening his wife for asking money?...Sahih Muslim 1478
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Muhammad's Wife had only one undergarment?....Sahih al- Bukhari 312
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Drink Camel's urine?? Sahih al-Bukhari 5686
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Told a women to breastfeed an adult man ?...Sunan Ibn Majah vol 3,book9,hadith 1943, Sahih Muslim 1453a
But a women cannot breastfeed ? ……….
Sunnah reference : Book 30, Hadith 14
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Book 30, Hadith 13
Arabic reference : Book 30, Hadith 1288
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Islam scholar says you can see a muslim women naked??? if you want to marry her? ….Sahih Bukharri 2624(Dawood Zahiri(815-883Ad),(Imam Al Awazai(207.774AD)
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Forgive a man who k!ll his pregnant slave just because she was not happy with him? ....sunan an naisa'i 4070
Beats his wife?...Sahih Muslim / Book 4 / Hadith 2127
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K!ll children?...……..Sahih muslim 1745c,sahih muslim 4550
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Sold and bought sex slaves? Al-Sunnan al-Kubra’ Volume 2 page 227, Sunan an-Nasa'i 4184,sahih al bukhari 4138,Sunan an Nasa'i 4621,Sunan an Nasa'i 4050
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How Prophet Muhammad die? Quran, Surah Al-Haqqah, v. 44-46...then read this... Sahih al-Bukhari 4428
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Allah have shin(a body part)? Sahih al bhukhari 7439
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LAST HOUR IS Coming or OVER?...sahih muslim 2953b
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Everyone is touched BY DEVILS?....Sahih Bukhari 3286
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7 Ajwa dates every morning will not be affected by POISON?.....Sahih al-Bukhari 5445
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How Prophet Muhammad die? Quran, Surah Al-Haqqah, v. 44-46...then read this... Sahih al-Bukhari 4428
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Islam says Muslims are the best of people ever raised up for mankind, so they are allowed to bring non believe with chains on their neck????. Sahih al-Bukhari 4557
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Allows Girl Child marriage? Surah At-Talaq(Quran 65.4)
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Sahih al-Bukhari 1341(non believers are "worst creatures"?)
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Allah Astray you? Surah Araf (Quran 7.178)
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REF> Ex muslim Sahil and Adam seeker and Ex-Muslim Zafar Heretic
you are also bruh😊 bcs u are not dnying the truth. Allah wanted u to become a Muslim
Deuteronomy 21:10-14 if you see a beutiful woman among the captive and are attracted to her you may take her as your wife.Bring her into your home where she must shave her head and cut her nails and change the clothes she was wearing when you captured her.
@@theultimatetank2179your god has no problem to cammand his worshippers to sleep with captive woman
Did he just say Tawhid is complex and hard to understand? Bro 😂
A 5 year old understands but he can’t even understand with his university papers 😂
@@kevinmath007 calm down kevin boy 😂 The mother of your second was three years older than Lady Aisha when she married Joseph ، Does that mean that Joseph is a Ped ? And also Does this mean that your third god the Holy Spirit is a Ped because he pregnant a little girl the mother of your second god 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣? Typical Liberal Trinitarian Effeminate
UnifiCATION!! Allah is the best of creatorS!! Sounds like more than 1 to me!
Explain tawhid and who Allah is?
@@kevinmath007pain in your ass is overflowing 😂😂😂😂
Great debate.
William Lane Craig is very respectful and well mannered.
May Allah guide him.
Yes i do wish tho Mohammed was abit calmer. But i understand thats maybe a habit from speakers corner
@@valonthegreatyep that's his habit from speakers corner
That's islams nature: Always blaming others, even for Hijabs self righteous and condescending character. Now you even blame speakers corner for it!!! There is not a bit of self criticism in islam as it seems.
It implies speakers corner has more power over Hijabs character than islam...
Amen
hes aggressive cause hes insecure. also shows islam is an agressive religion. this set islam way back.
By his own admission, this doctrine is taught in the new testemant, not the Old Testament and never taught by other previous prophets. In other words, a great innovation.
Do you believe Allah taught everything about himself in the first chapter of the Quran? Of course not. God continued to reveal more of Himself as time went on, so while aspects of God's triunity are in the Old Testament, of course we get more in the New Testament. Praise God!
In the OT, we get a level 1 and 2 understanding of God, then when we've learned that, God goes on to give us level 3 understanding. And when we get to Heaven, we will see there is so much more about God He hasn't revealed to us yet. Praise God!
May the Lord open your eyes and show you that Jesus died (to deny this is to deny history and all evidence, as Muslim apologists often do) and rose from the dead and reveal to you why He chose to do that ❤
@@James-ny2xl please just stop. Aspects of a triune God are not in the Old Testament which is probably why the entire history of Judaism seems to be oblivious to this point 😂 . And seems even according to you guys, all the previous prophets and all of their followers who lived before the advent of Jesus will be going to heaven whilst believing in the Muslim God and not the man God you worship. The unverifiable origins of Christianity, textual criticism etc as well as the evidence for and Gods message in the Quran make it abundantly clear your triune God is one of the greatest innovations in monotheism. Please just stop. Christianity has become so embarrassing it hurts.
@@jamdoughnut1873 the trinity can be seen also in the Old Testament
@@benjaminweaver535
When you read your FAITH INTO the text.
@@whiteandblack2005 easily seen in Old Testament if you have sense
as prophet Yusuf says in the Quran “O my fellow-prisoners! Which is far better: many different lords or God -the One, the Supreme? Whatever ˹idols˺ you worship instead of Him are mere names which you and your forefathers have made up-a practice Allah has never authorized. It is only Allah Who decides. He has commanded that you worship none but Him. That is the upright faith, but most people do not know “ …this really applies to the Christian’s , the trinity is a man made concept that God never authorized
How do you know the Quran is from God?
Muslims: The Quran said so
How do you know God said so?
Muslims: Mohammed said so
How do you know Mohammed wasn’t lying?
Muslims: The Quran said he wasn’t
Who told you to believe the Quran?
MOHAMMED
Did anyone else see the angels or hear the revelations?
Muslims: No
So why do you trust Mohammed?
Muslims: Because the Quran said he’s Perfect
Who told you to trust the Quran?
MOHAMMED
This logic is why Muslims should be the most pitied people.
Ameen
@@gherrocruciblethe amount of Muslims posing as Christian’s in the topped liked and hearted comments is disgusting and the fact all of you are spamming the comments with lies look up SAM shamoun and come back and apologize
@@gherrocruciblethe amount of Muslims posing as Christian’s in the top and hearted comments is disgusting we can’t even have an even comment section without lies you know what dies and look up SAM I can’t spell his full name but come back and apologize once he opens all of your eyes
@@Machoman50tamy comment was deleted this channel is wild hateful against humans
لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا اللَّٰهُ مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ اللَّٰهِ
ALLAHU AKBAR❤️
☝🏻
Allah hu akbar
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The islamic false deity is not God and Muhammad is not his messenger.
Probably the best hadith you’ll ever hear
Aws bin Aws narrated:
Allah's Messenger said to me:
"Whoever performs Ghusl on Friday, and
bathes completely, and goes early,
arriving early, gets close and listens and
is silent, there will be for him in every
step he take the reward of a year of
fasting and standing (in prayer).
At-Tirmidhi (496)
Sahih hadith
Thankyou for this
This in fact is truth. The blessings for doing this however is obtaining knowledge to guard against evil. That is the purpose of leaving all of your worldly obligations and desires to listen amd contemplate the recitation if the Qurán.
i struggle to understand if coming early and listening means coming before the first athan because that wasn't a thing in the time of the prophet, does anyone have a source that talks about it? is the lecture in between the athans and before khutba count in order fot you to take that reward?
@@zinoubensalah8939
I think you misunderstood the purpose to go to the Mosque. It is not required for you to go to the mosque. What is required of you is that if you go to a mosque that you go there clean... bathed is better so that you go to learn the Qurán untethered and relaxed to absorb the knowledge.
Now if you choose to stay home or go home for Jummah you would do the same but you would read Qurán on your own or with your family.
Basically going to the mosque at the time of prophet Muhammad was because he was the only one with the knowledge to impart to others.
Now we have Qurán everywhere. I can't think of any person that calls themselves muslim not owning a Qurán.
So again the importance of these gatherings is for the sake of knowledge to be guided aright and to begin tue discipline required to fulfill your covenant with Allāh without fail not exceeding the limits of your desires within your hearts.
Read the hadiths where muhammad rapes aisha or where allah acts like satan.
I left Christianity due to this very reason.
Same
@@MWA1407
Did you come to Islam?
The religious historian and philosopher Han-Joachim Schoeps says: “Here is a paradox of world-historical proportions: Jewish Christianity indeed disappeared within the Christian church, but was PRESERVED in Islam.”
(Caps mine)
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Backed up by the preaching and practice of Jesus of the Bible.
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"There is CONSENSUS among biblical scholars that Jesus, to all historical probability, did NOT consider himself as the incarnation of the second person of a Trinitarian God. NOWHERE did Jesus teach a Trinitarian doctrine. As one would expect from a pious Jewish rabbi, he believed in ONE GOD and strictly REFUSED to be equated with God. Jesus saw himself as a divinely authorized MESSENGER ... [and] his contemporaries [saw] Jesus as a PROPHET..." (Perry Schmidt-Leukel, Religious Pluralism, 152)
Caps mine
Come back to the light. As you could see in the debate, Hijab failed to show anything incoherent about God being eternally relational. Craig only had 2 minutes each time to reply to these weak arguments, and he still did an excellent job with that. For further explanation, I encourage you to check out his long-form content. It takes 10 seconds to write an equation but much longer to solve it and show exactly how it was solved, so an extended answer would be even more helpful.
According to the primary and secondary accounts of the eyewitnesses, Jesus contradicted Islamic belief hundreds of times. It is clear from Jesus' words and the words of His disciples that Jesus is God, but what is even more obvious and can't even be debated by any serious scholar is that Jesus contradicted what Muhammad would later invent and teach and therefore, according to Jesus, Islam is false.
May the true Lord bless you! ❤️
@@James-ny2xl
The religious historian and philosopher Han-Joachim Schoeps says: “Here is a paradox of world-historical proportions: Jewish Christianity indeed disappeared within the Christian church, but was PRESERVED in Islam.”
(Caps mine)
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👉 Backed up by the preaching and practice of Jesus of the Bible.
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"There is CONSENSUS among biblical scholars that Jesus, to all historical probability, did NOT consider himself as the incarnation of the second person of a Trinitarian God. NOWHERE did Jesus teach a Trinitarian doctrine. As one would expect from a pious Jewish rabbi, he believed in ONE GOD and strictly REFUSED to be equated with God. Jesus saw himself as a divinely authorized MESSENGER ... [and] his contemporaries [saw] Jesus as a PROPHET..." (Perry Schmidt-Leukel, Religious Pluralism, 152)
Caps mine
@@James-ny2xl
The Son aka Jesus of the Bible preached and practiced:
1) Who is THE ONLY TRUE GOD?
✅ The Father
(John 17:3)
2) Who is the God of the Son aka Jesus?
✅ The Father
(John 20:17)
3) Who alone to be worshipped as God?
✅ The Father
(John 4:21)
4) Whose name be hallowed?
✅ The Father
(The Lord's prayer)
5) Whose kingdom come?
✅ The Father
(The Lord's prayer)
6) Whose will be done on earth as it is in heaven?
✅ The Father
(The Lord's prayer)
7) Whom to ask for daily bread?
✅ The Father
(The Lord's prayer)
8) Whom to ask for forgiveness?
✅ The Father
(The Lord's prayer)
9) Whom to pray to for guidance?
✅ The Father
(The Lord's prayer)
10) Who delivers from the e-v-i-l one?
✅ The Father
(The Lord's prayer)
For the past 2 years im listening to This kind of debates
But i never found any 2 Christians who believe in the same way ...
Everyone has its own definition and understanding
This is what happens when there is no real scholarship and truth on their side. Alhamdulillah, Islam is the only religion that holds up to the highest rigor.
Then turn to the Bible and understand it also just watch Sam shamoun description of it don’t let people dictate what your belief is look into the Bible
@@samtv6447did, came to the conclusion that the Bible is a man made book with Many contradictions
@@burakcoskun38same goes for Quran
Just like our Santani or Hindu friend.. it's all gone pagans
If he couldn't defend trinity then yeah it should be a done deal now
WLC is a heretic doctrinally. It was 2 non trinitarians talking about the trinity. Hilarious
He did though. He refuted every weak argument Hijab threw out. Just because Hijab declares himself the winner doesn't make it true.
And Craig could have given much more in-depth responses to these weak arguments if he had had more time. Hijab was saved by the bell from further humiliation.
@@James-ny2xl the truth and logic prevail 😂 Christians them self don't agree and 100 Christians will give you 101 different explanation of the trinity 😮 Christianity is not logic but just faith and believe 😮😢
Alhamdulilah for Islam ☪️ ❤
Great work Mohammed Hijab.
So happy to see you calmly debunk his societal trinitarinsm arguments and his analogies about the two matches. You kept your composure and were very respectful. This was a delight to watch and we can truly see how much you've grown compared to past performances.
أللهم بارك لك، حفظك الله من كل شر و زادك علما نافعا
Jazakala for the upload , was struggling to watch the other video
In response to Dr LC’s closing statement… I was raised believing in God but having a Muslim father and Christian mother and therefore Christian and Muslim family members. What I’ve found is that most of my Christian family have became increasingly less aligned with Christianity and more aligned with atheism or agnosticism. However all of my Muslim family have remained Muslim. This doesn’t prove anything but this along with other factors does show the strength and continuation of the Islamic belief within my family tree. I have became Muslim in recent years after learning lots of different facts about both religions and comparing them. I found that so many aspects of the Christian theology has contradictions (especially the trinity) and there is a clear failure of preservation of the bible.
In Islam everything made sense to me and answered all my questions that I had before about God and religion. I have also found that not a single Christian is sure of their faith and they simply have nothing but faith to rely on, whereas Muslims have both faith and logic/reasoning. I have also found that Muslims r more confident in debates as a result of how confident they r that their faith is true.
I even heard Christian’s (that I’ve debated with and those who I’ve seen in interviews) admitting to having “blind faith” in Christianity but believing cause they ‘have had experiences or visions or feelings that Christianity is true. I’m convinced that my mother will eventually accept Islam as she is struggling to refute my points and she herself can’t grasp the trinity but believes that Jesus is the son of God and that the actual God is the father and that the Holy Spirit also exists but she doesn’t understand the actual Christian belief that the trinity is co-equal and she doesn’t believe to at Jesus is God. Even most of my friends that were raised Christian have became more agnostic due to the contradictions in Christianity but they aren’t really interested enough about religion and God to learn about and explore Islam.
I also believe that because I wasn’t brought up Muslim and became Muslim due to reasoning between religions, I am more confident that it’s the truth.
Mashalla bro happy to hear your story. may Allah grant you jannah
May Allah guide us all and your mother
❤❤
@@roaaalashhab7261 ameen brother, you too inshallah ❤️
@@mosamee8003 Ameen
Brother Hijab dominated the debate by dismantling the logical incoherences and contradictions within the doctrine of the Trinity. He not only exposed the flaws in Dr. Craig’s analogies but also revealed Craig’s heretical views, which diverge significantly from mainstream Christianity. Hijab effectively critiqued Craig’s rejection of the eternal generation of the Son and his partialist views, while also highlighting the contradictions in the mainstream Christian understanding of the Trinity itself. His deep engagement with logic and philosophy made his argument far more compelling and rigorous.
Muslims repeating the same points they don't even understand doesn't make them true
No example can coherently explain the Trinity as the concept itself is a logical contradiction.
If the father is not identical to the son and holy spirit, then we have to concede that we are talking about three gods not one God.
Brother Jake Blancatella's Trinity series are good. He clearly explains the logical problems of the Trinity.
Bro did you watch the same debate? Dr. Craig took the W in this one.
I have been a Muslim for 15 years, previously a Christian. Tawheed is simple to understand Alhamdulillah ☝️
Yet Allah copies to make a counterfeit 3 of himself, his lifeless word in paradise which intercedes on judgment day and the spirit in jibreel which created isa, an angel mankind hybrid by bowling in Maryam privates ( 3 of Allah word spirit)
Allah is one what? Oneness with whom/ what?
You were never a Christian brother, sadly! You left the god you didn’t know, for the prophet you don’t know!
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388low tier arguments
Atleast Dr.William had the guts to debate big shots unlike christian missionaries and APUS only choosing to debate unknown random new faces in Modern day debate. 😂😂.. And still they loose
Why does not Hijab debate Sam Shamoun or Jay Dyer?
@@pavelcrestin1 Why did Hijab not Debate with a bunch of gremlins in the UA-cam comment section?
Simple, because they aren't on his level.
I'm pretty sure he also said that he only debates those with a large enough following and good credibility. He isn't going to give attention to a bunch of nobodies.
@@Umar-qy3bd 💯
mopus was scared of dogs 😱🐩😂
Shocking performance by Craig! Unbelievable that an old person who’s closer to depart this world doesn’t even know God, the one who will judge him after his death!
Muhammad Hijab had low IQ couldn't really understand of Dr. Craig's argument/example like you ua-cam.com/video/iYIr3VJRaL8/v-deo.html
After this phenomenal debate performance from Hijab, I think there is no one left to debate. It's time to seek competition on another planet, because it's very clear there is no longer any competition here on planet earth. Allahu Akbar!
Dont be disengenuous and arrogant, you knownwell hijab is scared of bob from of speakers corners and sam shamoun
@@luife06
Sam the cucko? That midget doesn't come close to mo.
There are Hindu scholars who got that much knowledge that worshipped by their lund bhakt yet none of them are ready to face dawahwise or Muhammad hijab 😅😅
@@sumafratv6943yeh ok 😂
@@sumafratv6943They all already been put down by Dr Zakir Naik. Not sure if any of them even want to join high level academic debates like this.
subhanAllah, its's crazy to think that Hijab started from debating in the park all the way to debating with none other than Dr William Lane Craig
the same hijab who said there is no age limit according to Quran?
Getting schooled by William Lane Craig. It was very clear from the debate that Craig was on a completely different level. It was like a bearded kindergartener debating a teacher and the teacher trying to understand how the kindergartener could think their bogus arguments are actually sound. Then after the kindergartener gets all of their attacks refuted, they declare they won and none of their arguments were answered. May the Lord open your eyes. ❤
@@James-ny2xl😂😂😂😂 We got to see that, God being compared to a 3 headed dog
@@balladbay2037 It was an illustration as a starting place to help people conceptualize something about God. It wasn't the argument. If you don't like the illustration, that's fine. Ignore it. Illustrations are used by God quite often to help finite humans understand infinite truths. If the illustration isn't helpful for you, then you don't need to use it. It actually is a helpful illustration as a starting point (while obviously saying there is an infinite difference--it was just to help us grasp the concept), but if you don't like it because your self-proclaimed prophet hated dogs, said angels can't come into a house if a dog is in there, black dogs were demons, and their lives should be ended, that's not our problem. God created dogs as beautiful creatures no matter how many false things Muhammad said about them.
Jesus compared Himself to a bronze snake, a door, a mother hen, bread, etc. If you don't like those, you don't like Jesus and you disagree with Jesus. And you'll be accountable for that on the Day of Judgment, using your own messed up presuppositions to reject what the Messiah said.
@@James-ny2xlyour comment is very kindergarten, sounds like a child crying because he can't accept defeat, you watched this whole debate with cognitive dissonance, William lane Craig couldn't even explain away the trinity, instead attack the Qur'an, just become someone is a professor doesn't mean they are correct in what they say, this was about trinity and incoherency and he failed massively, he provided no evidence of trinity ever spoken by Jesus, quite shocking for a professor to do that, then he went wayward with his analogies....
Cameron done a fantastic job moderating this. Very fair man. Respect - make sure to keep it up
This dude justified the Biblical violence with some vague nonsense and yet dared to condemn the concept of war in Islam. He already lost
very surprised to see dr craig so unprepared, and that unable to defend trinity, he clumsily attempted to deflect to tawheed.
There is no amount of preparation that can help you explain the trinity. They had 2000 years to prepare
@@nazeemsultan1038 Even if Muslims and Christians disagree with what Jesus's message was, we can all agree that Abraham and Moses never preached or believed in the Trinity. On the Day of Judgement, the Muslims end up wherever Abraham and Moses end up and we all know the Prophets, peace and blessings upon them all, are going to Paradise.
How do you know the Quran is from God?
Muslims: The Quran said so
How do you know God said so?
Muslims: Mohammed said so
How do you know Mohammed wasn’t lying?
Muslims: The Quran said he wasn’t
Who told you to believe the Quran?
MOHAMMED
Did anyone else see the angels or hear the revelations?
Muslims: No
So why do you trust Mohammed?
Muslims: Because the Quran said he’s Perfect
Who told you to trust the Quran?
MOHAMMED
This logic is why Muslims should be the most pitied people.
@@MG-cc9hi what a beautiful point of view 👏
He is old... In error and old. 🥺😔
"We Muslims do not realize what a blessing it is from Allah that we are Muslims. Think about how the disbeliever struggles with his own intellect to justify his belief."
Alhumdulillah for being Muslims
Brother Hijab please invite Dr Craig to your podcast and have a lengthy discussion talking about Islamic tawheed vs Christian trinity. I think a debate wasn't sufficient for such a heavy topic to discussed in this format between two acedemics.
I too would love to see that!
From East Africa 🇹🇿 ... I'm watching àlhamdulillaah
After this debate Christian trinitarian god is a :
1. 3 headed dog 🐶
2. 3 flames 🔥 in one candle🕯
3. 3 headed cat 🙀 in one skeleton
You forgot he's a car too...😂😂
😂😂
Could be worse, you could be a Muslim and follow a god who sent a pedophile to be his prophet 😂
I yes, according to them, God is like an egg too. They know no bounds these pagan minded misguided ones.
Better than plagiarized aryanism
Dr Craig Lane conceded to Hijab's critique claiming that God's example for him is like a three headed dog or conjoined twins, that's literally confirming three gods.
Christianity is dead, three times over.
Christian has no ground to stand on. He makes his believe very confusing 😮
I understand your comment. However if we simply look at God's plan to send Jesus to help us, it should not be so confusing. If our Creator understands that human beings are not infallible and that we are sinners, He must have had a plan ( and still has such a plan ) to help us. Such a plan would be God's love for His creation.
So I do appreciate your honesty.
Peace of God to you and your family.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 God's plan to send Jesus. Very good point that show Jesus is not God because God send him or God send other God 🤣
@@johnbrzykcy3076Such a Nice and humble comment, You're different from others who use foul language, May Allah guide you ❤❤❤
@@sttof10it took Allah 600 years to send a prophet from Arabia to say that Jesus is not God lol. What would happen to all the people between the 600 years? Allah sure would judge them doesn't he lol
@@Ppm1845 same thing happened to the people before 2000 Year before Jesus born because there were people ( surprise) also by saying Jesus born that's bad 😔 according to you god born can you believe it 🤣 since I debunked ur question/issue. Who told you in that 600 years Gap people believed same thing u believe now? 😨
53:00 A unique moment where the host attempts to end the discussion and William Lane Craig turns to full preacher mode.
Very rare to see craig perform poorly
Cameron bertuzzi would be like - “this debate was such a bad idea”
Cameron couldn’t handle his star being dismantled piece by piece 😄
@@incisivethoughts4416He becomes a monotheist when debating atheists, using Quranic arguments, and arguments from Al Ghazali etc
When debating Muslims, he throws logic out if the window and resorts to "belief".
Are you really this daft? It was his closing remarks and he was inviting Muslims to have be open-minded about the nature of Jesus Christ. Hijab did the same with respect to Christians and Islam. This is not preaching whatsoever.
William Craig comes as close to any Christian to convincingly arguing the Christian talking points…but he’s still miles away from even a 1st year student in Medina.
The student in medina is full of brainrot
@@user-user-user-user. How do you know the Quran is from God?
Muslims: The Quran said so
How do you know God said so?
Muslims: Mohammed said so
How do you know Mohammed wasn’t lying?
Muslims: The Quran said he wasn’t
Who told you to believe the Quran?
MOHAMMED
Did anyone else see the angels or hear the revelations?
Muslims: No
So why do you trust Mohammed?
Muslims: Because the Quran said he’s Perfect
Who told you to trust the Quran?
MOHAMMED
This logic is why Muslims should be the most pitied people.
LoL. A 1st year student in Medina knows nothing about Kalam and theology.
@@GottfriedLeibnizYT
Just like you don’t read or write archaic Greek, or Aramaic, or Latin, or Hebrew, right?
LOL ask Yasir Qadhi how his medina foolishness was deconstructed piece by piece
I have been waiting for this for a decade! Well done for getting both to speak on the same show. Round 2?
Dr. Craig is a respectable man, but his arguments for the Trinity, especially the candle analogy part failed miserably just as brother Mohammad said.
Edit: I just learned that this guy justifies genocide and mass murder, including the content in the Bible and genocides like Israel vs children. I take this statement back.
@vaccino3359 I appreciate the kind words about Craig. The point of the candle is that each match is a sufficient condition for the candle being lit, but that no logical or metaphysical impossibility is entailed in this analogy. That means there is at least one case where overdeterminism does not entail logical or metaphysical impossibility. In order to show that the trinity is incoherent, Hijab needed to show that the trinity cannot be like this example, and must be like the examples he brought up. But all his examples involved physical causes where multiple people cannot fit in the same space, which is obviously not a problem when the cause of the universe's existence is immaterial. So I really don't know where he was going with that...
@vaccino3359 But even if Hijab is right that we're stuck with either (a) one member of the trinity "fully" causing creation, or (b) several members "partially" causing creation, why is that a problem for the trinity? If I were a Christian and really bought Hijab's dilemma, I'd just pick (b) in this case. So again, I don't know where he was going with this...
I bet you 1 million you didn't even understand the candle analogy lol
@joshuapena6757 picking b isn't an option for you since it results in partialism. Partialism is the belief that each person of the Trinity is 1/3 God. For example, Jesus is 33.33% God. Trinity is the belief that all three are 100% God. Partialism is against the Trinity, and is held heretical by the Scholars of Christianity, even Dr.Craig here. Which is why he didn't accept it.
@joshuapena6757 Here's the problem, though: Craig usage of the candle example is misleading. He used the example because, yes, two matches light the candle, but one flame is the result. However, when two matches use 100% of their capability to light the candle, the flame results to be 200%, not 100%. See the point? Dr. Craig is claiming that even though 2 matches light the candle, each with 100% contribution, the candle is still 100%, which is a logical mistake. 1 + 1 ≠1, 100% + 100% ≠ 100%.
Btw we as muslims have no problem having respect for educated people like Dr. Craig. We DO, however, have a problem with uneducated psychotic RATS like Scam Shampoo, David Wood, Apus, Avery (Godlogic), and people like such. They don't even defend Christianity. They just base their content on attacking Islam.
Jesus : i am messenger of god
Christians :NO, you're god you dont know but you are .
Jesus: But I never s-
Christians: Nope, you are god
@@luqmti6634
Jesus: The father is the Only true god.
Christians: you said I AM, you're def god.
Jesus:"I and the Father are one"
Jewish listeners responded by saying, "You, a mere man, claim to be God".
Jesus: "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father".
Jesus: “He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives the one who sent me.”
Christians: Sounds like Jesus is claiming to be God and one with the Father.
Muslims: No He isn't.
Christians: This is what it says directly in the Bible.
Muslims: No it doesn't.
🤔🤔
Jesus: But I'm not g-
Christians: No, you're god, you don't know but you're god
@@kironthomas1442 for real. Too lazy to read
Craig in his closing statement abandoned his argumentation and started preaching 😂😂😂
MashaAllah loved this debate.. brilliantly done brother Hijab... many questions posed by brother Hijab were poorly responded by Dr William Craig
This Christian uncle was so underwhelming. Wow, I am sure that the people all expected much more from him.
Even me as a muslim was expected better than that
I think your education level is first grade if you believe that. Thats the problem with muslims theyre too stupid and blind by objective reasoning.
The Christian uncle tried his best but alas....
MH you nailed the whole concept of mainstream Christian ideology in immensely strategic detail. William didn't have a leg to stand upon. Utterly destroyed.
I'm a Christian believer but I didn't watch the debate. I tend to avoid discussing the "Trinity". However I'm not trying to be disrespectful to the scholars involved in this video.
My priority is ( or should be ) understanding God's plan of salvation and mercy to human beings. Since we are not infallible and we are sinners, God must have a plan based upon His knowledge of creation. A plan to help us.
Anyhow, I'm slowly learning about Islam. And I respect the strong discipline of Muslims regarding prayer and good deeds.
Respectfully from Florida USA
may allah guide you to the truth. most debates are about trinity adn monotheism because they are the core of each religion, if the core shatters the rest of that religion is no longer the truth. what I want to say sincerely may allah guide to the truth before it's too late.
Respect and love from Egypt bro. Just a question:
What God exactly are you trying to understand his(their according to Christianity?) plan?
I am not attacking, I wish you all the best. May Allah guide your heart to Islam, John
No reason not to watch the debate man. Exchange of ideas is what helps us develop our knowledge.
God's plan for humanity is very simple:
Worship Him and Him alone (since He is the one who created absolutely everything you see before you including you), turn to Him for help and guidance, turn to Him for forgiveness (since we are the creation and not the Creator thus we are not perfect like Him, sin is inevitable for us. God would've never created humanity if humanity were perfect and sinless). Do good things, help those in need, stay away from things He forbids as it is for our best interest to do so since he is our Creator and knows His creation best. He literally gave humanity the blueprints to salvation since the beginning of time through His messengers. Most notably Moses, Jesus, & Muhammad. Every single messenger preached the same exact thing, to worship God and God alone. If you followed what every messenger preached (since they were the greatest examples for the people of their time) then you worshiped the God that they worshipped and worshipped God alone. God entrusted His first 2 written blueprints to the people of the messengers times (i.e The Torah He revealed to Moses and the Injil He revealed to Jesus). Overtime those scriptures were altered by the people, they added, removed, and changed things to fit their whims and desires. God knew this so He made a promise to mankind that He would perfect, protect, and preserve His final blueprint for the rest of time and humanity and that he would clarify what came before. That final blueprint is what you know today as the Qur'an, His final revelation revealed to His final messenger Muhammad. I'm glad to hear you are slowly learning about Islam and I pray that God directs you to sources of knowledge in the religion as opposed to those who may cast doubt in your heart. I truly feel like you are on the cusp of realizing that the answers have been in front of you this whole time. Don't listen to the keyboard warriors on this app or any other platform who put forth emotional arguments that are constantly refuted time and time again. Do your due diligence with humbleness, an open mind and an open heart and I promise you that you'll have a a true sense of clarity on the test that this life is. Peace be with you
@@lorenzogonzalez5408 good answer bro
Great discussion. Cameron did a great job moderating. Thanks for sharing!
Apus, David & shamoun left the group 😂😂
@@thescribes466 A pus was hate commenting on the video of the moderator. 😂 He is a cheap hater
Just 3 transgenders on Zionists payroll
Yea, just like Mini Hijab ran away from CP? Loool 😂😂😅
Btw they have already responded to this debate, it's Hilarious.
@@allwyn3054 All their videos are on Islam, this is what you call coping. Islam cannot be stopped no matter how hard you try.
@@allwyn3054C princess refuses to have a moderated debate in a neurtral channel, he wants to be the mod so he can mute the component whenever he wants, MH humiliated that coward in 2020 when he sexually harrased a 15 muslim girl, CP is a beta male coward just like ur daddy jesus who depended on prostitutes to feed him (luke 8:3) 😂😂😂😂
Key takeaways:
Trinitarian: "There is exactly one God, and there are exactly three persons."
Real monotheist: "Okay, so do those three persons have independent wills?
If yes, then that's three independent wills. How exactly can you then uphold the logical necessity of there being one single undivided uncaused cause?
If no, then what really differentiates these "persons"? What makes each one a "person" that is not the other? You'd simply have to end up saying that Father is Son, Son is Holy Spirit, and Holy Spirit is Father."
Trinitarian: "It's three wills, but they always act in harmony due to divine perfect."
True monotheist: "So you are establishing a metric of perfection that would be external to each will. Hence, each will is contingent upon the other. So, in effect, you are making the will of God contingent."
Trinitarian: "The father is fully God, so he can will to create something without the will of the son."
Real monotheist: "If so, then the father is fully God, while the son is not.
If not, then the coming into existence of the son is an inhibitor to the will of the father. Ie, the Holy Spirit, and the son have stripped off the omnipotence of the father."
Don't forget within jesus himself there are two natures with their own independent mind and consciousness. It's a very easy concept to parse really
The moment he said "There's no concensus among what Tawhid is . . ." I'm just . . . . . You're done bruh 😂
Well, there is no consensus. There are more schools that debate each other about Tawhid
@@pavelcrestin1 Tawhid is the belief of oneness in Allah. The debate doesn't happen on the oneness of Allah, rather the attributes of Allah, whether they are literal or not. Using this logic, WLC shot catholics/protestants and blah blah blah right on their buttocks.
Then they are not considered muslim at all. @@pavelcrestin1
@@pavelcrestin1 Tawhid is literally "monotheism" translated in Arabic language, there is no other word for it in Arabic.
The absolute bold faced brazenness to utter a lie that there is no consensus on Monotheism in Islam is shameful, and sad.
@@mohamedab9033
Tawhid is 'better translated as unity'.
Unity means two or more came together to form one. So Al-lah isn't one.
Btw in every other translation in Koran, Tawhid is translated as 'unity'
Fair play for having the courage and integrity to post this on your own channel, regardless of how it went.
Why stop at 3 parts to God. Let's have 7 or 13 or 23. This doesn't make sense?
Also it's pathetic to see Christians try to say Muslims don't believe in one concept of Tawheed.
No they do not: ua-cam.com/video/ZPar3SDnIvk/v-deo.html
God to dog analogy is craaazzyy
Are you really this daft? WLC clearly stated it was not an analogy... 🤦
@@HT-xt4cn but three-headed dog is an analogy though bro
@@stealthassulter He said it was meant as a springboard for conceptualizing about the trinity and that it was not meant as an analogy.
@@HT-xt4cnstill doesn't justify the Trinity
@@burakcoskun38 That wasn't the purpose of that illustration.
Christians + Apus are now going to join forces to lick their wounds and feel better about themselves 😂
You should see the nonsense on their channels. The Christians think they won 😂. I guess if you believe in the trinity then any sort of delusional state would be reality to you.
Why did Hijab run from the Debate with Sam Shamoun and Jay Dyer?
@@jadenreyes9028 Also Why did Hijab run from the Debate with a bunch of gremlins in the UA-cam comment section?
Simple, because they aren't on his level.
I'm pretty sure he also said that he only debates those with a large enough following and good credibility. He isn't going to give attention to a bunch of nobodies.
Apus is a christian now. He doesnt say he is. He says he is agnostic.
But after his visit to israel he “felt” something.
I think he is just trying to keep his christian audiance engaged😂😂.
Because now he is defending judaism and christianity on all the points he used to attack islam on
this is beyond accurate 😂😂
with a lot of respect from both sides, a civilized and measured discussion, this is useful for the All Human population. WE need more stuff like this.
I’m a massive fan of Hijab. Well done mate.
I’m a huge fan too! Mo Hijab has done more to bring Islam down than any other! Continue your narcissism Mimi!
Hijab is an actor, pretends to know it all
After the debate the Losers Defeated by Hijab Club™ had a multi-hour discussion where they cried and consoled each other as the PTSD was activated by another Hijab debate.
There are no losers, just A loser which is craig, many christians knew beforehand he would lose, he is a very bad theological apologist, he is a crowned the top apologist by many because he defends the faith against atheism mainly. He is a also heretic in many areas.
From the liver to the knee
Islamophobes are the most pathetic copers you people have no shame how sad
😂
@@Thronewatcher"from the liver to the knee"
"Christianity is a joke and fallacy"
Two matches cant light a candle together
One match will do it first and be 100 percent responsible
It is an analogy. Analogies are imperfect when trying to discuss the almighty, eternal God. We don't need any perfect physical analogy for something to be true about God. There is nothing perfectly analogous to God having no beginning and no end, but that doesn't mean God isn't eternal. Even with the very limited time he had to respond, Craig did an excellent job refuting the bogus arguments of Hijab. Praise the Triune God!
@@James-ny2xl Let's make this even simpler. 2 persons push a button at the exact same time. Both are sufficient and could do it alone but only 1 person is necessary for pushing a button. ONE is necessary the other is redundant. God is necessary and cannot be redundant therefore God is ONE AND ONLY ONE. Stop saying three.
SubhanAllah. This is beautiful. May Allah guide Dr. William Lane Craig and our fellow brethren Ahle-Kitaab to Islam. 🤲🏽
Whatever your education background there's no way you can explain something that doesn't exist like the trinity.
Why do they even bother to elaborate on a subject that is widely accepted by majority to be a mystery is beyond me
@@mutamirmukhzani1240 exactly. If it's logically coherent then it doesn't need to be explained.
I'm flabbergasted that this is the best Christianity has to offer, he can't answer a simple question. Embarassing...
Like what?
No, this is not the best Christianity has. Try Sam Shamoun, Jay Dyer etc
They have been smoked many times, they act like childs when loosing debates. @@pavelcrestin1
@@pavelcrestin1 lol, sam was defeated by Daniel.
@@pavelcrestin1lmao
Debating Christians about Trinity is like arguing with a wife. It's an argument we can't win no matter what evidence we bring up. They just won't listen 👂
Dammm broo , what a statement hahaha
What evidence? These are all supernatural spiritual beliefs
Is a miswak involved?
What evidence??? Lol
Christians experimented with the Car Analogy that failed, Now we got the three headed dog analogy 😂😂😂
😂 *Surah 69:44-46 / Sahih Muslim 4428* 😂
🐔 Head 😂
Clock Head 🐔😂
Let me ask you a question is your soul body mind voice you or are they 4 different people 😂 you say trinity ain't logical but by that logic you think every element of yourself is separate people
@@ipe3nnj exactly, my soul is part of me not fully me , my mind is part me of me too, none of them can stand without each other, they are all dependant on each other, to complete the fully me. On the other hand what you are saying is The soul is 100% fully the person, the mind is 100% fully the person and the body is 100% fully the person, yet they are not three persons it's just one Person. How could any sane person in any realm believe that.
Defending Christianity = gargantuan mental gymnastics, gas-lighting and militant acceptance of logical contradictions.
Defending Islam = ‘GOD is 1”.
What is so plain & simple is also what is the truth.
Exactly brother! So simple so logical, the same message all the prophets brought, no prophets prophesied a future son of God coming or trinity, they all affirmed 1 God.
Prove a god exists.
Right, my dear brother 💝
@@petermckenzie580 why's Israel a better country to live in than every Muslim country and then there are 2 million Jewish Christians and 0 million Jewish Muslims?
@@TheDawahCenter 1 explain Isaiah 7:14, 9:6, Psalm 110:1, Matthew 1:23, 22:43?
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Better yet explain how Jesus is the Messiah?
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There are 2 million Jewish Christians and 0 million Jewish Muslims. So Islam is losing to Christianity among either ethnic Jews or ethnic gentiles. But the ethnic Jews' conversion unanimously to Christianity over Islam suggests Islam has no idea what 'Messiah' is. Why?
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Pathetic. Laughable. Jewish Christian Michael L Brown has 5 volumes 'Jewish Objections to Jesus'. Jewish Muslims have 0 volumes. Why?
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Gentile Muslims have negative 1 volumes. Lol!!! So pathetic. No wonder Israel keeps winning militarily. Why do you think terrorists can't beat Israel?
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No wonder Jews & Christians have a billion Nobel prizes while Muslims barely have any. Jews/Muslims are 0.2%/20% of population and then win 20%/0.2% of Nobel prizes. Why do you think this is the case?
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Why do 99.9% of people prefer to live in Israel over any Muslim country?
Sorry Christians but William Lane Craig is Cooked in this debate.
Really, 'cooked' on which points
@@GaryAdams-t8dhe couldn't defend the trinity? He started attacking tawhid even tho its not the topic lol.
@@GaryAdams-t8dgod or dog¿
@@GaryAdams-t8dHe couldn't defend the trinity? Further proving the Mainstream Christian Views Are false,irrational. And Also Hijab proved he is a Heretic. And at the last he got full preacher mode. 😂
@@GaryAdams-t8dconstantly trying to change the subject from trinity to tawhid and trying to portray that tawhid is complicated and can't be understood like trinity, lol 😂
Alhamdulillah how Islam is logical, and true religion!
May Allah reward brother Hijab for his efforts.
He will get his reward!
The Champ Always Wins!! 💙💙🕋🕋❤❤
I believe the following points, which were missing in the debate, are helpful:
I am Muslim. Here are some questions, I pose to Dr. Craig:
Q1.
Let us grant that your concept of one god with 3 persons is coherent. The 3 persons out of benevolence and love have the same knowledge, the same will, …. And all 3 act in concert. What would be incoherent, if these 3 persons were 3 gods with 1 person each, with the same properties of the 3 persons of the one god: “benevolence, love, the same knowledge, the same will, …. And all 3 act in concert”?
If you were asked to defend polytheism (as an exercise), would you be able to construct a defensible coherent version of polytheism?
Q2.
Is there anything incoherent in having one god with 2 persons, 4 persons, 5 persons, … n persons (even: an infinite number of persons)??
Is there anything special in the number 3? (I thought special numbers in divine attributes are constrained to be 0,1 and infinity)??
Q3.
If the doctrine of trinity is a cornerstone of the knowledge of the true God, should it not be expected that the chosen servants and messengers of God should be aware of it? Do you believe that Noah, Abraham, and Moses knew of trinity and believed in trinity?
Q4.
Do you believe that the doctrines of the true faith are revealed gradually (step by step), that the Old Testament only revealed one person, the Father, and that the New Testament revealed the other 2 persons? Why is it then impossible, that later, when Christ comes to earth again, he will reveal to mankind the trueness of many different persons, some of which were perhaps mistaken to be Gods in Hinduism and other polytheistic religions? Could it be, that, Hinduism (e.g.), is an evolution of an originally “monotheistic” religion with a “multi-person”-God?
Q5.
What is the degree of certainty, with which you state your belief in trinity, if you disregard personal experience and restrict yourself to reasonable objective arguments and facts? Is it not all grounded in the degree of certainty of the transmission of the “New Testament” and of the degree of certainty of its interpretation?
Q6.
But these 2 pillars are at least controversial? There are undeniable proofs of the corruption in the New Testament. Is it “unreasonable” to doubt the honesty and the integrity of Paul? Is it unreasonable to reject the “Gospel of John“ as divine revelation? Didn’t an intelligent man like Isaac Newton, conclude Unitarianism from the same bible?
Q7.
Do you believe that many Christian communities believed false doctrines of faith in the first centuries (Jewish Christians, Gnostics, followers of Arius, followers of Nestor, the Coptic Church, the Greek-Orthodox Church, the Catholic Church, …) and that it is possible, that all Christians have some wrong doctrines of belief ()e.g. about trinity) for centuries, until some “scientists” reveal the right interpretation of the Bible (perhaps in the 21st century)?
Is it not possible, that new reliable manuscripts about the life and teachings of Jesus may be discovered, and that many new errors in the gospels are found? Could it be that these manuscripts will prove the truth of the Christian sect “Islam”?
God is complex, yet allows us to comprehend Him in simple
Ways
Best analogy is the sun, distinct yet one
INVISIBLE Gas Giant,
VISIBLE as yellow ball in the sky,
GENERATING life through its heat and light
The One God, E- Lo- Heem,
UNMANIFEST/ As FATHER Who dwells in unapproachable Light
MANIFEST in the flesh / The Word/ Logos/ Memra in flesh as JESUS YESHUA
INDWELLING SPIRIT Infusing life, flowing from The Father Through His Son into the Believer.
"The oneness or unicity of God, is a doctrine that is VERY confusing and very controversial..." (Craig, 2024).
-like bruh what 5:04
literally david wood line from the last david wood vs Hijab debate. Very disappointing.
“Unicity” making up fake words for fake arguments - this Craig guy
It was at this moment we knew…
They way he said “Tawheed” I think he was pandering to his Christian audience. He made it seem as if it is something scary. And concluded that it is very confusing. Tawheed is the clearest statement about the oneness of God. Very simple. God is one, He created everything. He doesn’t depend on anything or anyone.
Yep. As soon as I hear that from a Christian, I switch off and walk away. Not worth wasting time on nonsense.
The Christian really said God = for example dog with 3 Heads 😂😂 it reminds me of that meme ( 🐉 dragon with 3 heads)
Is the word of Allah uncreated and is Jesus the Word of Allah?
@@angelicentity1401 wrong.
@@angelicentity1401You clearly have no understanding of Islamic theology. Ur trying to prove your idolatry by using Islamic arguments?
@angelicentity1401 bro please...
@@angelicentity1401word 'from' god.
In other words, for the argument of inhibition, using WLC analogy, a single match may NOT be able to ignite an entire log, but 3 matches combined may be able to ignite the entire log. That is to say, he's taking away the omnipotence of Allah (SWT) to ignite any log, and his model is dependent on a combined effect.
This is not at all what WLC was attempting to explain with his candle analogy...
@@HT-xt4cnthis is exactly what he tried to say
@@burakcoskun38 💯
@@HT-xt4cn yes, more like inadvertently explained it. As he also agreed that a part is less than a whole.
@@burakcoskun38 lol nope
Respect to Dr. Craig. Respectful. Thoughtful. I appreciate listening to a debate without personal attacks, deviation and circling. Hijab really exposed the idea of Trinity here. I studied it years ago and couldn't make sense of it. The contradiction lies in the idea that God can be fractioned or separated into parts of a whole.
The main logical question is : Why would you use 2 candles to light 1 flame? :D
Exactly 💯
Like if the Father can already create the whole universe by Himself, what is the need of the son and the holy spirit? 👍
+ The bible already states that the Father is the ONLY true God and that He is only ONE (John 17:3)
Because one is not enough
Exactly, if one can do the job, why have many? Also, why only 3? Why not 30?
And if one alone cannot do the job, then that is not God.
Ask yourself the question: Why did God create us? The answer is: Because He needs us, meaning God is incomplete. Ask yourself: Why did God send Muhammad? The answer is: To guide people. If God sent an angel to Muhammad and did not send anyone else and did not send miracles with Muhammad? Because God is stup id
@@shahrukhabdul9889Have you ever asked yourself why the God of Islam created you? 😅
Hijab : Three candles will lead to more fire 😂
I think the point he made was if u use two lighters to light a candle, it isn't the case that the two lighter are simultaneously the **direct** cause of the lighting of the candle. Rather the two lighters would both cause a certain amount of fire which would ***partially*** contribute to the creation of a bigger flame. This flame would cause the lighting of the candle. So here u have one cause (the fire) producing an effect (the lighting of the candle. So nothing here entail two distinct entities being fully responsible for the same effect.
@@natsutabbaa5324 Nailed it. Er, ignited it.
So, you guys believe in 3 gods like separate matches?
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So according to this logic, a firing squad shoots a man. A single shot can kill the man, so when the whole firing squad fires, the man is........more dead?
Mini Hijab is a coward. Let's not forget he ran away from CP.
@@natsutabbaa5324bro just stop it
Thank you for sharing
Really admire the the mannerism and best behavior of William Lane Craig. The debate happened in such a scholarly manner. Thoroughly enjoyed it and learned so much. Really Brilliant.
May Allah guide mr. Craig to Islam.
Thank you, brother Hijab, for your dawah, may Allah increase you in this life and the next.
Everytime a Christian realizes he/she loses, they go full preacher mode. So miserable. 😂
When did he go preacher mode?
@@Biglyat the end
@@Bigly…At the very end 😂
you mean like your stupid debator started preaching at 13:30?
and 48:35?
"Say that Allah is one and only.Allah is the self sufficient . He begets not nor is he begotten And there is nothing like Him (Allah) "
and this is the simplest doctrine of the islamic standard of believing and worshiping one God that if someone believes in... they will be saved!!!!
This convo dived deep into the heart of Christian doctrine from a critical, philosophical angle. What’s particularly striking is Hijab’s critique of Craig’s representation of the Trinity-it’s bold, and it highlights how even within Christianity, there’s no one-size-fits-all understanding of God’s nature, and Dr. Craig’s bold critique of Aquinas adds a refreshing layer, suggesting that even revered theological giants may not fully capture the biblical essence of the Trinity. The distinction between Social and Latin Trinitarianism is a prime example of this complexity. Craig’s willingness to challenge even Aquinas on this shows that philosophical reasoning is essential in dissecting these beliefs. It’s a conversation that pushes both traditions to clarify their core ideas.
Also I liked how Hijab invited Dr. Craig to confront the profound questions surrounding divine nature. He really made him question his beliefs.
No Audio at 28:00 ?
Because he was making good arguments
Went to the original channel to watch what he said. Doesn't really say much.
Link it here for those who think Hijab is being deceptive
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See description
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See description, he included what he said, and also referred to the stream version in which you can hear it.
ighting a candle with two matchsticks versus one could lead to some subtle differences:
Speed of Ignition: Using two matchsticks will likely light the candle faster because more heat is being applied from two sources simultaneously. The combined flame could increase the speed at which the wick catches fire.
Heat Intensity: The heat from two matchsticks will be higher than from one, potentially causing the wick to burn slightly more vigorously at the start.
Match Burn Time: Two matchsticks might burn out quicker since they will feed off each other’s heat, potentially consuming more fuel rapidly, whereas one matchstick burns more slowly on its own.
Wax Melting: The higher heat from two matchsticks could melt more wax around the wick initially, potentially creating a larger pool of melted wax earlier in the process.
I think in essence the physics is irrelevant. 2 people push an elevator button at the same time would be closer to what he wanted to say. each person is fully capable and sufficient. The problem is that since ONLY ONE IS NECESSARY the other would have to be redundant. God is necessary and cannot be redundant. Therefore God is ONE and the trinity fails.
I believe God is one and above all. If that means I'm not a Christian, then I guess I'll find another definition.
You are not a Christian if you don’t believe in the trinity but investigate it more before you run away don’t take advice from hijab he is a fake Islamist study your own religion and talk to educated Christian’s
Unitarians exist.
They're not that popular because most of them see in Islam what they've had in their heart and end up embracing it.
Let us return to the religion of Abraham, who was neither a Christian nor a Jew, but one who submitted his will to God.
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(135) They say, "Be Jews or Christians [so] you will be guided." Say, "Rather, [we follow] the religion of Abraham, inclining toward truth, and he was not of the polytheists."[47]
[47]- Those who associate others with Allāh in worship.
(67) Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allāh]. And he was not of the polytheists.[129]
[129]- Those who associate others with Allāh.
Duas, tears and a smile appear Everytime I watch you brother hijab. Always will make dua for you.
Let me explain how Craig lost this debate to lay audience:
Craig resorted to flawed analogies and examples to defend. Let's extend his flame example to next step, Just imagine two guns shot at the head at the same time. A gun shot to the head means you have a bullet but 2 gunshots to the head means that you now have 2 bullets to the head.
In the analogy, a single gunshot to the head represents something complete and effective on its own. One bullet is enough to cause death-there's no need for more to achieve the result.
Now, imagine you add a second gunshot. Although the result is still death, something has changed. You no longer have just one bullet-you now have two bullets, which is different from the original situation. It’s not the same as having just one; the overall picture has been altered, even if the outcome (death) remains the same.
How does this relate to the Trinity?
Just like in the gunshot analogy, one God is enough. Adding more persons-Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-changes the original concept of having a single, indivisible God.
With one God (like one gunshot), the concept of God is simple and straightforward: one being, one essence, one authority.
When you add the second and third persons (like adding more bullets), even if all are considered “God,” it’s no longer the same as having just one simple God. Now, you're dealing with something more complex, with multiple parts or persons, even though Christians claim it’s still “one God.”
The analogy shows that adding persons changes the basic nature of God. Just like having two gunshots isn’t the same as having one, having three persons isn't the same as having just one God. This challenges the idea that God can be truly "one" in the simplest sense if there are three distinct entities, even if they are all part of the same divine being.
So, the point is that oneness means one, without anything added. If you add something (like a second or third person), even if it’s still called “one God,” the simplicity of being just one is lost.
Don't waste your time with this propaganda God is 1 and everyone else is created by God very simple.
@@saidibrahim5931 I think people get lost in the physical analogies. The simplest is something like you push a button and the elevator comes. 2 people do it at the same time even though it only takes one. Each person is fully capable and sufficient but only one is necessary which makes the other one redundant. There can only be one God (necessary Entity). God cannot be redundant or codependent etc. so the trinity fails
Dr.Lang Craig I grew up as a christian and I had questions and the only answer was because the bible said so, I was lost. Alhamdulillah for Feb. 28th I said my shahada and I did my first ramadan and I've never felt closer to GOD than when i became Muslim. Allahu Akbar.
Cheap taqqia try better joker
@@tns8022 is taqiya what you meant to type? You think I'm faking this?? I'm 30 years old. I live in the US, grew up in a puerto rican house hold, so as Hispanics cristianity is first. I grew up protestant not catholic. I had answers about everything in the bible and I would get the same response. So sorry you don't believe me. I am a proud Muslim. Alhamdulillah
@@i-Lion9 I can understand Christians becoming athiest due to personal experiences, but I will never accept anybody leaving Christianity for Islam unless he is a rank pervert and want to feel comfortable in his perversions . if Mohammed the greatest of all perverts is the ideal man to emulate in Mohammeds own religion then any criminal/pervert would become an Islamic saint. How come God condone perversion and sin only for Mohammed? He indulged in necrophilia, took his own daughter in law for himself under allahs orders (his own alter ego is allah) only retards would believe in the "prophethood" of Mohammed. Only prophet who couldn't distinguish an angel of God from satan is Mohammed!! That says a lot!!
@@tns8022 Taqqiya is allowed in shia islam not mainsteam sunni... imagine muslims attacking christians saying you pray to marry as mother of God
@@i-Lion9 and you believe Islam that denies a historically accepted claim of the crucifixion to be the truth? Im curious according to Islam why did the Jews want to crucify Jesus?
Wow, truly an end of an Era. I have the utmost respect for Dr. Craig, and his work.
This exchange was cleary one sided, and hijab was swinging the hammer. Well done 👏 may allah reward you and preserve your work.
جزاك الله خيراً يا محمد
Nah bro, not The Harry Potter 3-Headed Dog analogy...
😭😭😭
While WLC had strong moments, especially in defending the biblical doctrine of the Trinity, MH's persistent challenges about necessary agreement, causality, and divine partialism put WLC on the defensive throughout the debate. WLC's shift to a discussion about the resurrection, rather than continuing to address the coherence of the Trinity, made it seem as though MH had successfully cornered him on the topic at hand.
I love how Brother Mohamed Hijab applies " أشداء على الكفار رحماء بينهم"
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
01:50 - Opening Remarks by Dr. William Lane Craig
03:35 - Claim of misunderstanding of the Trinity within the Quran
04:03 - Explanation of the basic doctrine of the Trinity
04:52 - Claim regarding interpretation of Tawheed in Islam
06:09 - Opening Remarks by Br. Mohammed Hijab
06:59 - Critiques of Dr. Craig’s representation of mainstream Christianity
08:14 - Exposing the Error in Dr. Craig's interpretation of Quran 5:116
09:26 - Response from Dr. William Lane Craig
11:54 - Challenging Dr. Craig’s representation of social trinitarianism
12:31 - Trinitarian Doctrine: Dr. Craig’s interpretation vs historical orthodox beliefs
13:10 - Discrepencies regarding the eternal generation of the Son
14:19 - Dr. Craig's closing remarks: defense of the doctrine of the Trinity
14:45 - Dr. Craig's Critique of Gregory of Nyssa’s Explanation
15:10 - William Hasker’s model about the Son's eternal generation & the Spirit's procession
16:25 - Challenging Dr. Craig's denial of the eternal begotten nature of the Son
17:11 - Alignment b/w Craig's views & Islamic theology regarding God's nature
18:49 - Dr. Craig defense of his position on the Trinity
20:06 - Dr. Craig acknowledges shared truths between Christianity & Islam
20:56 - Highlighting Craig's concerns about subordinationism in Christian doctrine
21:55 - Analysing the Complexity of Doctrinal Interpretation of the Trinity
22:26 - Analysis of Incoherence in Trinitarian Beliefs
23:29 - Critique of William Lane Craig’s Model of the Trinity
24:00 - Dr. Craig defends his position by referencing early Church fathers
26:03 - Nature of God: Christianity vs Islam
26:58 - Questions Regarding Trinitarian Agreement
29:33 - Examining the elationship b/w the Father & the Son
31:56 - Divine Perfection vs. Arbitrariness
32:25 - Issues with the Analogies for Understanding Trinity (Cerberus: the three-headed dog)
33:10 - Dr. Craig's explanation of the Analogies
35:29 - Contradictions in the Trinitarian Models
37:01 - Debate on the Nature of Divine Responsibility & Causal Overdetermination
38:30 - The Trinity acting undividedly in creation
39:30 - Challenges to Dual Responsibility
40:28 - Dr. Craig reiterates his stance on causal overdetermination
41:05 - Refutation of the candles analogy: Inconsistencies in dual creator scenarios
44:21 - Limitations of the Analogies
45:31 - Scrutinizing the Laws of Logic & Divine Will
46:20 - Dr. Craig's views on Omnipotence & Inhibition
47:33 - Implications of Creation in Concert: Limitations on God's will
48:35 - Quranic Perspective on Divine Uniqueness
49:06 - Incoherence in Trinitarian Models
53:16 - Dr. Craig's closing statement
56:11 - Hijab's closing statement
59:14 - Dr Craig's final remarks
1:00:04 - Hijab's final remarks
Finally, someone exposed craig’s dishonest tactics🎉🎉🎉🎉
I don't see dishonesty, misguided at best
And you just exposed your stupidity.
@@HT-xt4cn projection issue
The Bible doesn't define God as a trinity.
Read it again😂
Did and no false trinity doctrine in the bible🤪🤪🤪@@Jadoon0I0
@@purplerain2205 did u read with both eyes closed? I can name a many verses off the top of my head.
Genesis 19:24, John 1:1, Isaiah 48:16
@@Jadoon0I0critical thinking time: you use Hebrew scriptures to completely misinterpret their verses to justify your false narrative. Seriously think about that for a minute..
You have absolutely no right to use Jewish scriptures which contradict The fake meanings you ascribe to them. But since you have.. take your last reference Isaiah 48:16.
Isaiah 48:16 as, "The Lord God and His Spirit have sent me." However, a proper rendering of the verse reads: "And now the Lord God has sent me, and His spirit." The last two Hebrew words in this verse are shelachani ve-rucho ("He has sent me, and His spirit"), with "me, and His spirit" being the direct objects of "sent." Even though a definite direct object is usually preceded by the participle 'et, this grammatical rule is frequently not observed in the Bible, e.g., Exodus 15:9; Judges 5:12; Psalms 9:5, 20:3-4, 45:4. In fact, 'et rarely occurs in the poetic parts of the Bible. Thus, the meaning of the verse is that God has sent Isaiah accompanied by His prophetic spirit. There is no mention of the third member of the Trinity doctrine. Instead, Isaiah affirms that God, who has placed within him the power of prophecy, sent him.
The spirit is always at the disposal of God to bestow upon whomever He chooses, as stated in Numbers 11:17, 25, 29; Isaiah 42:1, 44:3; Joel 3:1. If this spirit referred to the third member of a coequal tri-unity god, how could it be ordered about at the discretion of the other members of this group? We see that the Jewish Scriptures teach that "spirit" does not refer to the third person of a tri-unity god. Thus God says to Moses, "And I will take of the spirit which is upon you, and I will put it upon them. . . . And He took of the spirit which was upon him, and He put it upon the seventy men, the elders, and it came to pass, when the spirit rested upon them, that they prophesied. . . . And Moses said . . . 'would that all the Lord's people were prophets, that the Lord would put His spirit upon them'" (Numbers 1:17, 25, 29).
Such a condition makes it obviously impossible to consider the spirit as being an associate of God, let alone coequal with Him.
Allaahumma baarik, well done. ❤
In opening remarks
"There are two fundamental tenants
1. There is EXACTLY one God
2. There are 3 persons who are properly called God...That's it. This is a straightforward doctrine."
How is this logically sound?
😂
My 🧠 is NOT braining 😅
Substance vs Persons, not difficult for the philosophically literate.
@@OniLeafNin what about ancient Greeks or Hindus? 1000 gods 1 substance? or 1000 gods/persons "part of the same Godhead"? God is One. Don't say three. Just One. plain simple. No need for philosophy or mental gymnastics.
@@overoscar1788 God is one, but also being itself is sustained in God, the divine simplicity is not destroyed by the category of personhood anymore than each cloud or speck of dust changes God’s nature
My biggest criticism of Muhammad Hijab is that he is struggling to speak without running out of breath and needs to focus on cardio rather than 100kg weights for now.
Other than that the arguments have been flawless. 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 Masha Allah Allahumma barik 😂
He suffered from pulmonary embolism after Covid. That can be a cause of his shortness of breath.