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I love you for the sake of Allah, Mohammad Hijab
What you and Ali Dawah are saying directly contradicts Prophet Muhammad PBUH's life because he was happily married and monogamous for majority of his life and even when he did commit polygamy and had an opportunity to make more children from his younger wives he still never had any children from them. A healthy family raising kids - he pbuh did that with Khadijah RA and no one else.
And no man is less manly for wanting that.
And moreover, he made sure that none of her daughters end up in polygamous relationships.
I seek monogamy from Allah because that's what I know my Prophet practiced.
Furthermore, in this link you will know how Ali Dawah's absolutely dumbfounded saying that "Men Are Naturally Polygamous" is completely baseless and artificial.(some of the commentary in this article is still woke tho but the scientific facts are there)
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/karmak-bagisbayev/the-myth-of-male-polygamy_b_14879220.html
@@tausif6514 prove that the prophet did NOT want children with his other wives... are you saying men can ONLY get second or more wives after a certain age? prove this is a rule in islam, only a idiot or a munafiq would fall for your liberal trojan horse, my prophet was polygynous and im going to be polygynous, no man is less of a man for wanting that.
tell me what group are you from?
@@aimgiiiiiiii Ibrahim RA yes. Ibrahim RA who was born from a concubine and passed away in his infancy.
I was talking about the surviving children
Allahu.akbar .isalam.alkum. bros.shes been damaged and she wants other sisters. Damaged.i don't like her tone .evil.person .
Muslim women must be given a space to speak about their experiences, they shouldn’t be dismissed so coldly and insulted publicly; they spoke in a respectful and considerate manner - polygamy is not haram we all know this, but compassionate Muslim men are running out so perhaps focus on encouraging men to become more compassionate and considerate to their wife/wives instead of insulting abused mothers who want better for the ummah
Neither is polyandry which means many husbands
No when u have this amound of misleading ideas and thoughts to that large croud you should watch what u say... cause now u have an effect on a large number of people dont come in here corrupting islamic traditions with your freedom nonsens
But they basically said that polygamy(something Allah explicitly allows) is not moral. Take the dress off and pay better attention, this is public Muslim men do not owe understanding or apologies, the problem is within herself and she should go to real shuyukh for help not public laymen
Compassion? From men?? From MUSLIM men?? 😂😂😂😂😂 keep dreaming
@@JOYRIDEUS no they didn’t they said the way it being executed is not right not the whole institution next time actually watch the whole video.
I have to say this conversation that both of you had was incredibly disappointing. The sister CLEARLY said nothing wrong with polygamy and yet you were still putting words in her mouth as if she doesn’t agree with it.
They were just expressing how some men use it as way to abuse their spouse which is true. This level of shaming people of just talking through their emotions is a big reason why so many younger people are just quietly leaving Islam.
You guys are so we’ll educated Mashallah yet don’t you know one of the conditions for polygamy is to treat your wives equally and justly? Doing justice to others and being aware of huqooq al ibad is not a command of Islam? Is that just as you are insinuating something Islam doesn’t care about?
This is clearly an example of when our ummat is just focused on rules rather than the hikmat and spirit of those rules. Something that people like imam ghazali warned us about smh
This is the most accurate comment
Thank you
This is why I don’t follow Mohammed hijab and the other guy
Plot twist: these two guys are not "well educated". What do you expect of people who picked up knowledge of the deen from street-da'wah?!
@@kriputyub7566 your name seems suspicious.
This is what happens when you take random people on the internet such as Hijab and Dawah for teachers and ignore the qualified ones. Hijab can master Aristotelian logic but has no problem with misleading through red herring because the sisters’ video was about ABUSING through polygamy, rather than polygamy in its default state being abusive.
The assumption that Hijab is completely objective and possesses an Islamic rational understanding which can go unchallenged says a lot about many people who follow him. There is a clear bias which is THEN rationally justified. Any bias or deception can be logically supported and this is how human beings work. Hijab's lean towards a material understanding of the religion. Furthermore, observing his temperament, he seems like a competitive alpha (at least outwardly) who cannot tolerate the challenges by women men are having in our time and place. For this anyone can go miles and beyond to restore their ego again. This is patriarchy packed as Islamic right there and you all take it for what it has been presented like. If you think that you are is serving Allah through such content then you should truely reconsider it.
I’m not sure if the people in the comment section even gave a chance to the video done by the sisters- because if you did you’d realize that he twists a lot of things.
The sisters' video started directly with a disclaimer saying that Allah said that polygamy is allowed and there is no doubt about that and the permissibility was Not the topic of discussion since the matter is crystal clear. She then very clearly said that the discussion was limited to how it is being done wrongly in the society we are living in . The other sister in green khimar even extended on her point saying (paraphrasing) ' We know what it's supposed to look like when it's done correctly because we have the prophetic model for such attestation '. She used the word "spiritual abuse"(which by the way is not a buzz word and is an actual category of abuse) for explaining when there could be a misuse of power , she illustrated an example saying a person in such circumstances could use the "God card" i.e excusing abusive tendencies through 'supportive material' that 'religiously excuse' these types of behavior (when in reality it doesn't). Then they got into how many women today are psychologically suffering from this toxic relationships. They exemplified actual sisters who struggled to the point of psychological malfunction and had their children at stake as a result of this. And here Hijab's hyperrational explanation is that (1) spiritual abuse is a term used in feminists circles (2) islam allows such pain to be tolerated. It is hyperrational because it goes beyond the boundaries of the need of rationality and instead justifies extremes (1)I have never heard of feminists using the term spiritual abuse. But even if that was the case. Feminists can use the word "chair" and it would still not say anything about the term having an exclusivity to them. Feminism only becomes problematic when it exceeds boundaries and no longer believes in limited parameters or anything objectively set. Feminists drink water that doesn't mean we should stop drinking water. Besides spiritual abuse is akin to the shaytan's way of misusing islam. The satan according to our scholars have islamic knowledge, but the satantic element is what makes it not islamic. This includes (but is not exclusive to) not having love , and it includes as well evily justifying behaviour through islam. An example are kharijites. And this is what spiritual abuse is- you misguided people and deceive them through using islam. Someone could do all sorts of corruption and abuse and then reclaim their right through islam and the Quran talks about such archetype. Humanbeings need to justify behavior . It is ingrained in our psyche. This is why America paints muslims as terrorist before going to war. (2) Here is where I'm saying that Hijab's explanation seemed hyper rational. Islam and asymmetry and the allowing of pain. Pain and discomfort are instrinticly part of life, yes. Trials are painful and the wisdom is to submit to Allah. But islam is not hyperrational to the point it doesn't recognize harm beyond accepted scope. Now saying that women can have depression as result of abusive polygamous marriages because islam allows that- this is completely misplaced. One of the shari'i principles is to protect the sanity of the muslim men and woman which includes their psychological health and the prophet pbuh said that the dignity 'Hurma' of each muslim is inviolable. Marriage in islam is not about the lower self, and has a lot to do with the union of families. It's more about uniting with so many families and fufill all the conditions while maintaining excellence.
The sisters even mentioned the children being at stake due to the impact it has had on the mother's psychological health post finding out- if children aren't the greatest of the amanah to take care of then what is the real point here? Hijab shouldn't dismiss this point.
If you believe in complete legal positivism where pain is allowed I understand but then why justify inconsistently when it's for the opposite gender? It is inconsistent because Hijab either justifies his perceptions with (1) hypperational arguments derived from religious or non-religious sources (2) evolutionary psychology of men's upper hand or any biological explanations of men's nature. The example of this was last video of polygamy in which Dawah was asserting the point on male nature and polygamy . Another example is a video in which Hijab with Naima B. Roberts were speaking and Hijab expressed his disgust with muslim women that wanted the financial benefits of traditional marriage where men are being providers as well as the modern benefits . He never justified such archetype with being any evolutionary psychology explanation . He outrightly said he was disgusted. That is nothing compared to women accepting the abuse you are promoting and yet you are not disgusted with that to the slightest degree which is selfish. This whole point of women as accepting abuse seems to ignore how Quran speaks of marriage as a sacred bond in which wife and husband and how it is a worship of fulfilling this sunnah. And it ignores how the Quran says that this relation is established on Mawadda (love and mercy) as a sign and not a tyrannical transaction which the wife should bear. 'And one of His signs is that He has created for you, spouses from among yourselves so that you might take comfort in them and He has placed between you, love and mercy. In this, there is surely evidence (of the truth) for the people who carefully think.” (30:21). It also ignored the prophetic excellence towards women and the farewell speech. So in the end of the day it's not even about islam but about men that want to justify corruption.
Just like sidi Shaykh Abdal-Hakim Murad (may Allah preserve him) that says "It is better to be a naïve believer than an intellectual bereft of intuition"
May Allah protect us. Amin.
Your comment will soon be deleted 😂
@@Azura-adamson Alhamduliah. That means he's read it.
@@aminam4547 , ya mine got deleted. I had so many likes I also brought one official fatawa. Also see the comments very few with strong decent whereas on twitter these clowns are getting trolled.
Stopped reading your essay after you complained about the “patriarchy”. Patriarchy means men holding most of the positions in a government. In Islam it’s haram for women to be leaders, the Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) said “people who appoint a woman to be their leader, will never achieve success” (Sahih Bukhari).
@@Theshowoffcollector I mean it's up to you if you want to read it or not. You did however stumble on a small stone and miss the big elephant in the room.
I didn't see anything wrong with what the sisters said. They approached the topic in a mature way, They have voiced out the realities of polygamy and what it does to women. One of the effects of polygamy that needs to be addressed is The effect it has on children, Children become insecure and tend to overthink , They feel less loved by their father and some children end up villainising them . Men should consider this effect because it's less talked about . They should constantly show and remind their kids that they still love them because kids also feel betrayed
My father has 2 wives and at no point have i ever felt insecure. From his second wife (my mother) he had 10 children from his first wife he had 4 children. Not only are we not insecure I'd say we're Alhamdulilah a very successful family. My grandfather was also married twice and our family back home in Pakistan is actually a well respected honorable family. My uncles own companies and properties through out Dubai, Kuwait and Pakistan. I only mention this because broken insecure people are rarely successful rather they're are low achievers. Both my mother and my father's other wife get along very well father is just to both women and provides for both of them. I am part of a massive family and I swear by Allah I wouldn't have it any other way.
@ou Langkous I beg to differ in western society a man has 2/3/4 girlfriends which is basically polygamy without the marriage and responsibility. This is where polygamy fixes this issue and gives a woman honour respect and rights where as western men just indulge in zina with numerous women and discard them when they're done.
@ou Langkous I am born and raised in the England and still live here. Islam in the west isn't what it was 10 years ago yes there is more knowledge available about Islam more than there ever has been to your average layman but the Islamic situation in England has worsened. Women wear convertible hijabs skin tight abayas work in free mixed environments and some how justify it with Islam. I don't see how these people think they have figured out 1400years worth of Islam in the last 6-8 years. The problem in England and especially America isn't just the lack of proper Muslim men it's the lack of traditional Muslim women. Who think they can go out to work in a Turban Hijab free mix with men at work come home and expect an aalim to be sat at home waiting for her.
@Western Liberal Ideology-leftNright-isHYPOCRITICAL Ameen akhi, May Allah bless you also and elevate you in akhira and dunya. Ameen
Why you ladies are exploring a paradigm outside the paradigm of Islam if you truly believe in the paradigm of Islam? Come back to the right path and encourage your sisters to love their man even if he gets a second wife. He gonna love you too 😊!
Some men learn to understand and empathize more with women's struggles after their daughters experience the same..
But then it is too late.
Its easy to say women this women that.. but God forbid such a situation befalls one's own daughter or sister - that is when our eyes are opened to the reality of what their struggle..
All Muslim women are our sisters.. so please have some compassion while addressing these women..
The Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was gentle in giving advice. You can be kind and impart advice - that's way more effective.
it is truly a blessing that Allah gave women khulaa as women can take matters into their own hands when dealing with a husband who lacks empathy and compassion and forces her into things that she can not accept
So much gaslighting happening in this video... they twisted what was said by the woman and didn't bother actually listening to what their concerns are with polygamy, which in fact proved what the ladies said about spiritual abuse. A lot of woman get emotionally blacked mailed into staying with their husbands which causes a lot of trauma. These comments from a lot of men show how selfish they are and put only their needs first with no care for their wives which is extremely sad, no respect for their spouse at all shocking!
“There is no compulsion in religion” [al-Baqarah 2:256]... Gaslighting and Manipulating women into polygamy marriages!!!. Polygamy marriages are corruption...
"""And you will never be able to be equal between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From Quran surah Nisa"""... Muslim ummah keep telling others don't follow your desires, women are desires!. But desires can be very powerful. They can hold sway over the mind and lead a person away from reality. When a person follows desires and submits to them, without giving consideration to the guidance received from God, he goes astray. Following of desires is directly linked to misguidance.
To understand the effect of desire it is important to analyze what desire does to human intelligence. It puts a curtain over the eyes of the mind. It makes a person so attached to its target that reality is overlooked. The conditions to understand reality include an objectivity to it. It means acceptance of reality whether palatable or bitter, whether it is for personal gain or against it. These conditions are not in line with the dictates of desire.
In another verse Almighty Allah puts forth this truth in even stronger terms. He calls desire the god of some human beings. He says: Have you seen him who has taken his desire to be his god? (Q 25:43). Such a god has been condemned in the strongest terms in Hadith. The Prophet (s) has said: There is no god under the sky that has been worshipped other than Allah that is worse than the desire. (Taken from Tafsīr Namūne). No other deity is as despicable as the human being’s own desire.
Imam al-Sādiq (a) says: Be apprehensive of your desires in the same way as you are apprehensive of your enemies. For there is no greater enemy for human beings than their own desires and what their tongues reap (Al-Kulaynī, al-Kāfī, 2: 336.)
Following of desires is often not recognized for the lowly quality it is. It can be masqueraded as freedom, having fun, being with the masses, etc. It clads a veil over the person as well as others who are exposed to him. Only those who have insight and reflect on reality are able to see through it.
This verse reminds us of the danger!
Polygamy marriages come under desires!Polygamy marriages are corruption...
Destroying the frist marriages!.
Jabir reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Satan places his throne over the water and he sends out his troops. The closest to him in rank are the greatest at causing tribulations. One of them says: I have done this and this. Satan says: You have done nothing. Another one says: I did not leave this man alone until I separated him from his wife. Satan embraces him and he says: You have done well.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2813
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim
"""And you will never be able to be equal between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From Quran surah Nisa"""... Muslim ummah keep telling others don't follow your desires, women are desires!. But desires can be very powerful. They can hold sway over the mind and lead a person away from reality. When a person follows desires and submits to them, without giving consideration to the guidance received from God, he goes astray. Following of desires is directly linked to misguidance.
To understand the effect of desire it is important to analyze what desire does to human intelligence. It puts a curtain over the eyes of the mind. It makes a person so attached to its target that reality is overlooked. The conditions to understand reality include an objectivity to it. It means acceptance of reality whether palatable or bitter, whether it is for personal gain or against it. These conditions are not in line with the dictates of desire.
In another verse Almighty Allah puts forth this truth in even stronger terms. He calls desire the god of some human beings. He says: Have you seen him who has taken his desire to be his god? (Q 25:43). Such a god has been condemned in the strongest terms in Hadith. The Prophet (s) has said: There is no god under the sky that has been worshipped other than Allah that is worse than the desire. (Taken from Tafsīr Namūne). No other deity is as despicable as the human being’s own desire.
Imam al-Sādiq (a) says: Be apprehensive of your desires in the same way as you are apprehensive of your enemies. For there is no greater enemy for human beings than their own desires and what their tongues reap (Al-Kulaynī, al-Kāfī, 2: 336.)
Following of desires is often not recognized for the lowly quality it is. It can be masqueraded as freedom, having fun, being with the masses, etc. It clads a veil over the person as well as others who are exposed to him. Only those who have insight and reflect on reality are able to see through it.
This verse reminds us of the danger!
Polygamy marriages come under desires!
Yes! Preach my friend. I am with you!
“Gaslighting” - a word that has been developed by white atheist feminist women to downgrade men. Now it’s unfortunately been used by Muslims sisters 😔 😔
Please tell us the data what percentage of women initiate divorces in america for example it’s near the 80 percentage. Don’t say lots of men black mail without any proof your speaking from Emotion
@@adamj6724 Simply read the comments, the proof is literally in your face but don't want to accept it that's fine. Look how so many men in these comments are belittle woman saying its their right and completely disregarding and disrespecting a woman point of view. why do you think more woman initiate divorce in America?
Invalidating women’s feelings is the reason why feminism is born. Kindly approach this issue with compassion and empathy towards the more vulnerable sisters..
Watch her video about mahr. "Its my right" "girls ask for the highest mahr" "if u cant afford that your a broke mandem".
Same back to her: its a mans right to marry 4 wives.
Her: omg "the god card" "spiritual abuse" "omg bullying".
We are talking about religion here. There is no place for your personal feelings. I am a woman, I have personal issues with the matter. But it is a fact, that my husband has the right to have 3 other wife's besides me. I have to accept it, because Allah allowed it for him. Period. My feelings are my own problem. I have to work on my Iman, on my tawakkul and on my desires. That's it. And I know for a fact that I would have issues. But it is my own problem. And to be fair, isn't it better for the other women, to have their rights? Do you want them to be a disrespected side chick? Is that what you want for your sisters?
@@AmeenaF19 empathy is a huge part of Islam. Look at the way Musa AS spoke with phaorah. Gently! And we can't even speak gently with out sisters In Islam. Speaking harshly pushes people away from the Deen, whether you like it or not
@@MH-bf4uu how would you say the facts in the Quran and ahadith with empathy ?... bro there's nothing like harshness when one is talking about facts
@@AmeenaF19 Mashallah ....
You should take this video down and apologise to the sisters you’re addressing. You’re emotionally and animatedly criticising them, unfairly throwing labels around and most importantly taking to them in a way you would not like your own female relatives to be spoken to. It’s sad to even have to use this analogy because it should be clear to a Muslim that we should address each other with humility and softness, assume the best in each other, and speak in a dignified manner. The analogy in the Quran about the braying of donkeys should always be remembered.
Especially considering there is a cultural struggle of ideas going on, those truly calling to good need to have impeccable adab. Ask yourself are you aiming for that standard? Why should any sister listen to you after you’ve given them the harshest verbal dressing down even a teenager would find excessive? Especially considering they’re strangers who haven’t done anything to you. And even if they had!
Once again brothers I advise you to take this video down and send an apology to the young women in the video. Salaama alaykum
The brothers have nothing to apologize for. And you should never apologize to feminists
No. You are a man you do not know how women feel when your partner suddenly wants a second wife. Imagine your wife wanting a second husband. And Islam was the first religion to ever give rights to women and invented feminism
@@waleedasad7072 they do. they act as if women having to accept polygamy or wearing a hijab or long sleeves should be something joyful it is not. it is a test. and tests are always hard. wo do it for the love to their god not for men.
because unlike what you think wo would like to have two men too just like they would love to walk outside without a hijab and long sleeves.
but these are the tests they gotten and that they have to overcome to get into heaven. but if you men do not stop acting as if it is not hard and wo shouldn't complain you will lose your wo
@@Jessicaro even if it's hard, you have to do it . No way getting around it
@@waleedasad7072 ofcourse there is a way god even gave women a way it is called divorce.
you know the right that men convenietly do not tell a wo she has. or the other one is by putting it in the contract when they get married also something men convenietly do not tell wo about. so no she doesn't ahve to take it because even god know some tests are to hard for his creations.
Why did they divert from the topic and pose examples that have no relation to what to what the sisters are talking about. These men just don’t want to talk about how men can abuse parts of Islam for their own gain regardless of how the marriage/family is affected.
As a non-Muslim who is interested in Islam, it’s attitudes like Ali and Mohammed’s that give Islam a bad reputation to outsiders. The Western perception is that Islam treats women as second-class citizens whose feelings and wellbeing don’t matter.
These women acknowledged that polygamy is halal and simply explained how hurtful it can be when a husband goes about it in an unfair or sneaky way.
This could have been an opportunity for these two men to talk about how men can be better when approaching polygamy within their own families. Instead, they’re strawmanning at these two women as if they said that polygamy is wrong or something. In short, they are criticizing and belittling women for speaking openly about how men behaving badly can be hurtful.
Sometimes i wonder, are people watching this type of videos blinded with their ear drums closed ?
They're feminist indoctrinated secularised women clearly, using their own subjective "feelings" so Allaah has legislated trauma, spiritual abuse and Allaah shouldn't have divinely instituted poligyny.
They're only talking from a purely emotive, jealous, feminist western propaganda against Islam, they're showing they have no understanding of Islam at all, women jump on this misandrist nonsense and don't reflect if they're even on the required spiritual levels and objectives of Islam as a wife/mother.
They're products of a completely failed Islamic & cultural upbringing and undeniably pushing feminism behind the hijaab, their fathers if Muslim should be ashamed, boycotted & shunned, nobody should EVER marry females like this & they're too many of them in Muslim communities, who cleverly wording their hatred for Islam as supposedly reasoned points.
& the whole time she's pushing ignorance and spiritual abuse against Allaah's legislation that the enemies of Islam applaud & use to attack the Islam through these kinds of secularised "sisters" who get all this garbage from feminist websites, books and feminist indoctrination in the western education system and then spew this as so called Islamic concerns.
The comments sections and those who thumbs up those garbage comments show how extremely unislamic these so "sisters" are, these comments are applauded by the disbelievers and enemies of Islam, well done feminists who are most unislamic than Islamic...💯
Islamic ruling and sharia isn't malleable or a caretaker of the feelings and emotions of individuals.. rather, it's objective morality that comes from God that we all are submitted to.
@@mohammednur6169God created human pain and suffering. He knows what causes it and how to cure it. Do u truly believe that the Allah whose prophet died warning his Ummah to be better to there women, would allow you to harm your wife like this. You are one of the Ahlul Biddah
It gives me so much hope that the comments are so understanding and correcting of the wrong approach of this video. On the other hand it is appalling how little understanding is in this video
Watch her video about mahr. "Its my right" "girls ask for the highest mahr" "if u cant afford that your a broke mandem".
Same back to her: its a mans right to marry 4 wives.
Her: omg "the god card" "spiritual abuse" "omg bullying".
Agreed!
It comes down to, yes to polygamy "but".. theres allways the verbal judo, so many detractors here, but none of them are telling what the proper way of the act of polygamy should be.. still waiting.. crickets.
@@ceoofgreenheartinvestmentf173 Read the Quran and Sunnah to find out, why are you searching for fiqhi knowledge in UA-cam comments? Ridiculous…
Agreeeeed
Ran out of videos to react to? To dig up an old video of your fellow Muslim sisters to completely misinterpret what they’ve said and mock them for shedding a light on a reality that exists for many Muslim women
At least could’ve had an open discussion with them instead of gaslighting Muslim women for having basic emotion and wanting to speak up about it. You forget that burying an existing problem will always come up back and worse so better address it now
you have respectful debates and discussions with JP and many other non-muslims that do not deserve the exposure and platform but cannot even do that with your fellow muslim sisters that you disagree with. Not mentioning the way you completely misunderstood what they were saying. Check their video description next time before you decide to make a problem out of nothing
As a sister. Bless you brothers, may your da'wah be a means of Jannah for you and everyone who helps you
Ameen ya rabb
I want to become a muslim to have four wife's and to bit them if they get out of line. devoted like the quran say.
Lol 😂🤣 Question ❓
in the quran did allah created one Eve for Adam or 4 wife's lol .👉just One 💃🕴️
Not 4 Eve muhammad said 4💃💃💃💃lol
Muhammad said you're half a brain, equal to a dog n donkey, a fuel from hell and is a satan. Mashaallah
@Dismissed Jersey! Chiffon feels very nice but it tears so easily and many chiffon hijabs are handwash-only (: jersey is much more stretchy and durable, plus it often comes in longer sizes
@Dismissed chiffon imo, but then again I've never tried jersey. Chiffon is crispy, classy, and stylish. If you get good quality one, you can machine wash it. Jersey is good for the summer.
Why does Muhammad Hijab keep quoting and referencing secular books but it was a crime for the sisters to mention therapy?! Hypocritical!
Salam sister,
Firstly, they did not say it was “a crime” to get therapy. They stated that it is not ideal to get advice from a non-Islamic source when Islam has all the answers.
Secondly, they did not “attack” the sisters for their feelings or emotions about the matter, but they directed their focus on the sister’s lack of application Islamic rulings in their scenario and their disregard and dissatisfaction with the Islamic solutions provided.
Thirdly, their Islamic knowledge is not required to be updated. The Islamic rulings mentioned in the Quran and Hadith are applied by these brothers but disregarded by the sisters in the video.
They did not make this video to attack the sisters, they only made it to point out the severe mistakes the sisters mentioned, that could be detrimental to the lives of their Muslim audience.
Lastly, the comment involving “moving on to another model” is their impersonation of Donald trump and does not reflect their personal views. I highly recommend you watch the entire video before commenting. Thank you very much.
As a man, those women are correct in saying that polygamy isn’t a comfortable thing a lot of men tend to think women have a different type of heart compared to men and that is not so. Men and women feelings are the same equally.
I feel like you misunderstood the first point. It seems more like the sister was talking about brothers who are threatening their current wife with taking a second wife, which some sisters may feel like is spiritual abuse.
(Not saying i agree with the point)
18:30: "Defend the rights of 2nd, 3rd and 4th wife who in non-muslim or muslims who do it the wrong way and have side chicks/gf etc. Allah stipulated if a man wants to go and do THAT, he does it in the right way by honoring her." And that's where you lose the reasoning behind why polygamy was allowed. It was to avoid mistreatment of orphan, servant girls by putting her at the same level as his wife. You've twisted the reasoning to be that its simply because men are lustful and they need to satiate their lust, completely disregarding the conditions necessary. This here is why women have indeed suffered the treatment of men in the past.
Assalamu Alaikum, I can't believe this brothers! You still haven't addressed the points. I support the sisters as they're plain honest and we need a safe space to just talk. Sisters were addressing real issues. They're not denying the polygamy front but does it make sense in this day and age? It's the dynamic of emotional damage. Women and men are already facing issues with marriage let alone polygamy. This is the first video of yours which has really upset me! Why is it ok for women to be victims? What about the guy who does things behind their wife's back? Then women are meant to accept it when they haven't even given consent. I'm not denying Islam or Allah's way at all but it doesn't make sense how guys play the advantage card. If you want pure facts, base your debate on the rate of women's depression increasing. It also surprises me why you're addressing this video after such a long time. Please brothers of Islam humble yourself and check what you're saying. Ali Dawah you have no right to say shut up it's disrespectful! I have a lot of respect for men but this is shocking!
Very well said !!!!!!
What nonsense. Men are 4 times more likely to commit suicide than women - you ever think that men are depressed because modern society is preventing them from having multiple wives, as is natural to them?
"Does it make sense in this day and age?"
What a pathetic statement. Subhan Allah..
YES IT DOES.
ALLAHS WILL AND LAW MAKES SENSE IN ALL POSSIBLE DIMENSIONS, AT ALL TIMES!
No one cares about your emotional baggage when its contradicitng Allah SWT and His will. Deal with it and grow up..
Ur comment reeks of femcentrism as u talk about how the women would feel and how the guy could take advantage of the girl .u don't talk about how the responsibility could be too much for the guy and contribute to the suicide rates we see in men today but instead you talk about women getting taken advantage of and women's depression .IAM not saying u deny that men suffer in these marriages but why do you think a guy today of all times will take advantage of her .if anything it's the women of today who take advantage of guys the most so if anything polygamy will make the life of the guy miserable too but no you wanna talk about how women would feel taken advantage of.femcentrism at its peak.
@@Xenor9hhh sir you are very much gaslighting women’s experiences. If women are being taken advantage or dealing with depression or not honored in their marriages then it is the responsibility of the men who do honor them to speak up. You are so comfortable to shush women to stay quite and not speak because it’s beneficial for men. Men have put themselves above women, men have put their experiences above women and men have silenced women’s experiences because they gain more by invalidating the real issues that remain ignored and unresolved. A true man knows how to honor, love, support and validate a woman’s experience. Men who puts women beneath them for their own gain are nothing short of BOYS. And the sad reality is in many cultures including my own, that is accepted. But women are growing tired of being ignored and constantly put in a disadvantageous position. Women will learn to speak up in your culture, and the more you press on them the more they will fight for what they rightfully should have. Such as being honored in their families and in their marriages. Women adapt at different paces in different cultures. The women in your culture will not tolerate the disrespect and pain that men cause them forever.
This is just my opinion and other Muslim sisters might have other suggestions:
1. If you are a man that WANTS to or ENVISIONS to practice polygamy in the future, HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE WOMAN YOU INTEND TO MARRY BEFORE MARRYING HER. If she is agreeable to such a lifestyle, she can go ahead and marry you knowing there is a possibility that she may have to experience this.
2. Say you are already married and you DIDNT discuss the above with your current wife before marrying her but NOW you want to marry again. The most decent thing to do is to HAVE a conversation with her about it and say that is your intention. Expect that this will rock her world as it’s just sprung on her. Know that this is a major lifestyle decision for her and so you should know this will not go over easily with her. Tell her that you will give her some time to think about it and how she feels about going into a cowhide situation. Either she will have a hard time accepting it but will actually accept it, or she will say she needs a divorce because she can’t do that. If she wants a divorce, make the process as easy for you both as possible. If kids are involved then explain to her that you plan to do your part to support your children in their growth and that you wish to be an active and positive part of the children’s lives as having a good father is important for the children.
3. If you didn’t do 1 or 2 above and you gave gone ahead and married without informing your wife, that is very shameful. There is no secret marriage in Islam! Also, in any transaction, you have to be honest in your dealings. If you fear that you will lose your first wife hence you secretly marry a second wife, that’s like selling a good to a customer knowing it’s defective but without telling them of the defect. If you need to share your self with another human being now outside of your wife, the math isn’t adding up to say you will give her 100%. At best when you are going to be able to provide is 100% of 50%. So you have to be clear with her that you are not able to provide more than 50% from now on as you need to provide another wife the other 50% and that goes does to 25% per wife/family if a man is married to 4 wives. So please do not justify ‘secret’ marriage as a valid marriage. It’s not!
women aren't forced into polygamous marriages, if they don't want to get into a contract like it they can do their due diligence before marriage, or divorce the husband if he wants to marry again during their marriage and it wasn't even discussed. She cant forbid the husband from doing it but nor is she compelled to stay.
*she can't give divorce... She can ask for divorce
She can give divorce.@@md.shahadathossain8880
They're feminist indoctrinated secularised women clearly, using their own subjective "feelings" so Allaah has legislated trauma, spiritual abuse and Allaah shouldn't have divinely instituted poligyny.
They're only talking from a purely emotive, jealous, feminist western propaganda against Islam, they're showing they have no understanding of Islam at all, women jump on this misandrist nonsense and don't reflect if they're even on the required spiritual levels and objectives of Islam as a wife/mother.
They're products of a completely failed Islamic & cultural upbringing and undeniably pushing feminism behind the hijaab, their fathers if Muslim should be ashamed, boycotted & shunned, nobody should EVER marry females like this & they're too many of them in Muslim communities, who cleverly wording their hatred for Islam as supposedly reasoned points.
& the whole time she's pushing ignorance and spiritual abuse against Allaah's legislation that the enemies of Islam applaud & use to attack the Islam through these kinds of secularised "sisters" who get all this garbage from feminist websites, books and feminist indoctrination in the western education system and then spew this as so called Islamic concerns.
The comments sections and those who thumbs up those garbage comments show how extremely unislamic these so "sisters" are, these comments are applauded by the disbelievers and enemies of Islam, well done feminists who are most unislamic than Islamic...💯
So you wouldn't say a husband who KNOWS his wife's gonna be heartbroken is selfish?
You call it "his nature", but at the same time care little for woman's nature. Your "nature" are merely desires. How about men try and practice retaining those desires?
Just something to think about.
Why should the men be forced to retain those desires all their life because otherwise itl upset the feelings of a woman. Ridiculous.
Exactly
@@hn1695 do you not think a woman may also become bored of her husband, fancy a fresh face, both sexes have to practice some sort of restraint else they would be no marriage
@@sarahm4516 women are different to men. Women don't desire multiple men and can love one man. This is their nature and our nature is different. It's how God made us unless you're a feminist operating from a false premise assuming we are all equal and exactly the same.
@@hn1695 we are equal in the sight of Allah swt, and the best one is the best in deed not gender.
Not every household is built on love and a polygamous relationship does not necessitate love, i.e a man who has four wives does not evidence his ability to 'love more' merely by having multiple wives.
Marriage as a construct would not allow women to be intimate with multiple men without serious negative consequences, which anyone of rational mind can agree would occur, however this doesn't evidence that women are incapable of loving more then one man, how many widows who remarried speak so fondly of their ex husbands, that it is clear their hearts still hold them dear, whilst also speaking fondly of their current husbands until they are clear that they also hold their current husbands in their hearts!
Just because Pologamy is not appropriate for a woman, this doesn't evidence that a woman must therefore have no ability to desire more then one intimate partner!!!! it means she must content herself with only one for the greater good as marriage as an institution would mean for her harm if she had more then one husband.
who said anything about love? the quran mentions spouses finding tranquillity in one another not love, love is not under a man or a woman's control, love can be defined as an intense and deep affection for a person, if this is the case, how many marriages are loveless on both the part of the man and the woman, this does not mean these marriages are not sucessfull.
Do not be one of those who think marriage is a disney movie, and all love and rainbows, its a contact between a man and a woman, love may come, but it may not also.
Also kinda weird how they’re so focussed on the Somali girl more than the others, when the Arab has made similar comments throughout the video.These guys give a lil racist vibes ngl.
I have seen the original video and I agree/and understand with everything they said, y’all talking from an inexperienced point of view and from a mans point of view, it hurts me so much that many of you (in the comments and vid) can be so heartless. Y’all didn’t understand anything. Many of these comments/ what y’all are saying it’s utterly disgusting and sad, y’all haven’t even talked from everyone’s point of view just yours, personally me I was in a family where polygamy was practised wrong, and it left a mark on me as a young child
I seen the sisters video, there wasn't a single ayah or hadith, the sisters video was based on life experience , my friend went through polygamy she found it difficult, so there for every polygamy must be this way, there wasn't one good thing they said about polygamy, the sisters need to open the history of Islam and they'll clearly see almost every successful man like the prophets, sahaba's had one more then one wife, this is a new thing in the West that they are telling us its one man and one woman, while its one man with up to 4 wives, I would personally tell most brothers to only have one wife because most man Cant afford to have more then one wife but then again most of the successful men in Islam were financially broke but still managed
@@hamid6790 you are gaslighting other peoples experience.. your comment is actually a lack of empathy, yes polygamy is already a struggle for most women, and it’s talked about in Hadiths, but these women are talking about when polygamy is done wrong, if sisters already find polygamy a little bit hard…. that doesn’t give the excuse for many men out there to do it wrong, that sentence is giving the mentality of “so what sisters will find it difficult regardless I might as well do it wrong/my own way”. and it’s based on life experience because they are talking about different life experiences/point of views… that’s kinda what their channel is based on talking about struggles/things the community don’t talk about often (and it should be talked about), they are talking about how polygamy has an effect on women when done wrong, they are talking about struggles that’s kinda main topic of their channel (struggles) that is overlooked in the community. “you said therefore every polygamy should be this way”, and I disagree, yes polygamy came from Allah, (👉With the intention to protect women👈). 1. There is no obligation for the women to accept when she finds herself in this situation, in fact there is a Hadith where a woman came to the prophet because her husband had married second, and she couldn’t (handle it) so she went to the prophet. And told him what’s the matter the prophet said would you be able to give him back mehr she said yes, and the divorce was finalised, so every polygamy shouldn’t be this way when you are struggling/it has an effect on you and there is a way out, 2. These sisters are talking about when polygamy is done wrong, not when it’s right. So if polygamy is done wrong then no it shouldn’t be that way. polygamy is not for everyone it takes a lot, these things should be discussed before wedding. And most men back in the day managed it, because they had the means to keep it balanced financially/supportive. Etc, it was a different time back then in how things were/and how it worked, polygamy is not something lightly, it comes with restrictions /rules/ obligations and it’s not something that should be approached lightly. I have seen most people in this comment section and the video complaining that the sisters didn’t say something nice about polygamy…. the sisters are talking about the sides of things (struggles) that’s the main topic of their channel, sorry to say but I think y’all are just looking for something to be mad about, but anyways May You have A blessed day brother Good night/or evening,morning
@@ninass8119 I would love for the sisters to make a video on how polygamy done the right way instead of talking about life experience or emotions
strongly disagree when you wrote polygamy is to only help women , it's meant to help men too.
can you send me that full hadith so i can do a bit of research on that but either way I could easily send you 20 hadith on how polygamy benefits everyone. You do realise if a woman showed up to a mosque and said i want a divorce because my husband got another wife isn't any grounds on getting a divorce.
@@hamid6790 I didn't say nothing wrong, and Where are those hadiths?. if you look up the history of polygamy, polygamy has always existed in the history of human civilization, and women back then didn't have rights/ their rights were abused. men married more than 4 and so on, but then Islam made restrictions for it... to protect women, that's the fact (it was revealed to protect women). Though I agree that Polygamy is allowed, (but not mandatory), and it is a solution and measure for certain situations that may arise from time to time. At the same time I can't ignore that this rule was revealed to protect women (everyone knows that) it is evident from a study of the Holy Quran that a special situation of a post war period is being discussed during that verse in the Holy Quran. It is a time when there were large number of orphans and widows. It wasn't designed to satisfy the male sexual appetite and lust, nor was it designed to prove that males are polygamous creatures, but it was intended to correct the injustices done to widows, orphans, and other female dependants, The verse was revealed after the battle of Uhud in which several men died and there were a large number of widows/orphans, all this you can gain the knowledge of, if you search the history of it. You can also take the example of the Prophet All his wives were widows/divorcees except one Aisha Ra. And going to a mosque saying you want a divorce because the husband took another wife and you can't handle it, is a reason for a divorce/Khula because as I said before there was a women who went to the prophet because of this reason and she got her divorce the hadith is in Sahih al-Bukhari 5273. Plus about the sisters, it's their channel and they made it about struggles, why don't Mohammed hijab or Ali make one instead of calling sisters names/misunderstanding them just because they decided to voice out struggles that occurs within the community. It would have been really good for them to talk about the beauty of polygamy or at least try to understand instead of completely gaslighting the experience and emotions of others.
it's pretty early here...good night
@@hamid6790 true, but hating your husband because he has taken a second wife and not feeling able to give him his rights is a valid reason, so its just semantics but the divorce would be given for the same reason he remarried,
Thank you for making this video! I am a sister and my husband married again Alhamdulillah. Of course it was difficult emotionally - what made it WORSE though is other sisters asking me if I have “considered divorce” when I told them I was struggling emotionally.
I may have been upset (naturally) but who said I wanted a divorce? What a dangerous statement to make to a sister who is feeling low.
My husband and I are now closer than ever by the way and just had another child Alhamdulillah may Allah protect us.
I am so glad I ignored the sisters’ comments.
To add to my comment: of course it feels heartbreaking and I acknowledge this but what would be useful from sisters is advice on how to deal with emotions and STAY in the marriage after your husband breaks the news.
May Allah reward you immensely my sister
May Allah give me someone like yourself my sisterrrr ameeeen please say suma ameeen ;''')
@@selfdevelopmentseeker5718 how are other women meant to advise you if they themselves wouldn't make the decision you've made? They only tried to provide what they saw as a solution because maybe that's what they'd do. Not sure why your husband breaks your heart and other women are expected to pick up the pieces.
@@selfdevelopmentseeker5718 Unfortunately sisters like you are increasingly rare, i hope you get rewarded accordingly by our Creator The Most High.
The sister's statement that "Islamically says so but morally" made sense to me because I come from a polygamous community. Nevertheless, the sisters mean Islamically speaking, polygamy is permissible, however many people lack the moral maturity to engage in polygamous partnerships. When done properly, polygamy is beautiful, perhaps even more so than monogamy because there will be two or more times as much love. Despite the fact that, unlike most monogamous marriages, polygamy, in general, can be more detrimental if not handled properly. I can't even begin to count the amount of suffering I have witnessed sisters endure throughout the marriage (some brought on by themselves, by meddlesome inlaws, by co-wives, or husband), unlike brothers who don't truly understand the gravity of their actions until they are in their 40s or 70s and have seen the results in the lives of their children. who are no longer infants or young adolescents. Favoritism hierarchy in polygamous relationships, which affects both spouses and children, is a frequent example. As a result, one wife(+kids) experiences fewer provisions and spends less time with the other women and the kids. creates a lot of hatred and envy in the kids as they get older. I've also noticed that Muslim men from the west conceal their marriages, which results in the children not even having their last names. They also make their spouses appear to society as girlfriends, single mothers, baby mothers, or widows. Multiple sins, broken hearts, and loss of self-respect. These cases which are common are unIslamic. I would NOT recommend polygamy for the masses, I truly don't want brothers to sin that deeply because the reality of taking care of that many women/ kids without being a capable man can easily lead to destroying multiple family units.
I agree, muslim men nowadays is lack of maturity, very weak. I think this happen because we used liberal or secular education system 🤷
ThAnk you.I don’t think they understood this sisters prospectivas, they mainly talking about men now a days and society not the religion itself..
@@fadzufashiontalk9081 girl they went so off track it’s embarrassing
"many people lack the moral maturity to engage in polygamous partnerships."
based on what evidence? morally what? it all sounds like being against islamically
Flowlikewater almost gaslighting innit? I am not femenist at all and I believe in Islam and all, and I am not those women who really thing God made a mistake by allowing men to marry more than one women. But☝🏽 I am not blinded by now a days men do to women with polígamy, is not the same as how our fathers use to deal with it, and I am talking about men in the western world. Dealing with poligamy from a man raced in the west is different than men who where raced in other parts of the world. We can’t deny that if u don’t have the knowledge of poligamy, you don’t have the means to sustain it, or the maturity to deal with plus with wester rules of marriage.. is a caos.. the example they r putting about your Mather not liking ur partner nd stuff is nothing to do with what she is talking about.. spiritual abuse, she ment men using religion as a weapon and Muslim society pointing u if u feel sad tht ur husband married.. we are not allowed to feel because religion said is allowed when truly u are more sad because u know how much u held down for this man, and how much u fight for ur relationship despite him not complay with his obligation and a men, to turn around and marry when u know he won’t be able to handle two women let alone two household. Thts why some women are sad, not because of religion. They already predict their future and the future of their kids nd no body sees it or support u or try to advice him tht is not the right move. It’s sunna for god sake is not an obligation!!!!!! Learn to be a men and take care one wife then u can look for the next..
I have never heard a case where the children blamed their mother for divorcing their father because their father decided on his own to bring in another wife into the picture without their mother's consent. Even if there was such a case it is not the norm among children that come from divorced families
I’m actually in disbelief. How do you not see their point? How could you not be sympathetic to women who go through this? Ali Dawa sounds like he’s been indoctrinated by Andrew Tate ideologies if I’m being honest you come off as very angry, bitter and entitled. You seem personally triggered by their opinion which may I add, would be the majority opinion amongst Muslim women. We’re not robots we’re human. If you think something of this magnitude would not cause a woman pain and trauma then you are ignorant. If you think any woman would take this suggestion from her husband with a smile then you are ignorant. Why not ask yourself the same question, how could YOU jeopardise your family for the sake of your sexual gratification? 🤢 I hope people watching this video have a scroll through your comment section and see for themselves the disapproval amongst your followers. I hope you do better.
I couldn't agree with you more!!! I'm in disbelief too :(
Here's the correct way to do polygyny:
1. Before getting married to your first wife tell her that you intend to practice polygyny.
2. When you are getting married to your other wives, let everyone know that you are getting married to another wife. Be open and do not lie and be deceitful. I don't know how a Muslim man can maintain another marraige whilst LYING to his wives about where he is, where his finances are going etc. Hiding other marriages encourages these men to lie which is haram in Islam.
3. Be fair to all of your wives and treat them equally.
If a woman says before marriage that she doesn't want to participate in polygyny and you force that on her that is wrong. She has the right to end the marriage because it causes psychological distress. Not every woman can handle it.
Beta
1. why should he tell her before when she could just expect all men to be polygamous, and just accept that it might happen.
2. a man dont need to tell his wife that he married another wife, if he wishes to do so, thats on him, but its not obligatory.
3. agree.
@@vortexlight8387 it is crazy how men think that they can keep it a secret forever. Let me give you an example.
If the wives have children the man will have to introduce his kids to each other at some point. Isn't it worse for the wives to find out at that point rather than just being honest from the beginning.
Another example is finances. A wife will know how much her husband makes. When it comes to spending she will see that some money is going elsewhere. You can't hide that.
There are so many other examples I can give you. All of this will cause friction between them and will eventually lead to the marriage breaking down. Always best to be honest from day 1. No one is saying that having multiple wives is haram
@@Sarah-pq9dm firstly, it dsnt have be "lying" or "secretive" he can just never mention it.
If a women is jelous on her man, its kufr so why would she break the marrige down for something he has a right in? Its like saying "if a husband finds out that his wife dsnt work and bring money, he might divorce her" why would he divorce her when its her right not to work and bring money in.
@@vortexlight8387 no you can't compare a woman getting a job to a man getting married in secret. And yes it is lying because when he is courting these other women and meeting up with their families to ask for their hands in marraige, having multiple weddings behind your wife's back? How is that not lying? What is he going to say when he's been gone for a couple of days or comes home late? He will have to lie. Lying is never good. Just get a wife that doesn't mind practicing polygyny bro
Wallahi I cannot believe the words coming out of her mouth.
"Islamically says so but morally"
There is no but, there is no morality outside Islam.She is literally throwing Islam out the window and making her own morality. May Allah guide us.
@@GuysARandomPersonHere may Allah guide you
May Allah guide us all and keep us all on صراط المستقيم
Women ☕
Exactly.
"We know Islam says xyz, but morally xyz."
Lol. Kufr speech.
that's why it is not recommended for woman to do dawah, their dawah would be just feelings and emotions without valid and reasonable arguments
Someone needs to address the higher chances of getting an STD or STI for the man and his wives. It can also develop into an HIV and cause fertility issues on the long run.
I personally refuse to sleep with my husband just knowing that he might get me an STD or STI, or even cause fertility issues for me. Some of those diseases stay with you for permanently like Hepatitis B, herpes, HIV, and HPV. AND women are more prone to get Cervical cancer if their husband is sleeping with other multiple wives.
SEX EDUCATION NEEDS TO BE ADDRESED !!
Are you mental bro 😂😂
AIDS cannot be transmitted if none of the wives has the disease, he can test them before marrying them, so avoid making stuff up if you are uneducated about this topic.
@@Bd-mq8td Yess, that is true as well. It's selfish to think that there's zero harm in marrying more than one wife without sexually transmitting infections or diseases. That's why it's Sunnah and not mandatory. I'm very dissapointed about the lack of education in this video and I hope all Muslims watching this read my comment or do their own research !
Polygamy is the most discussed topic in Islam. There's so much wrong with it.
If I’m in love with my husband I can never accept him being intimate and affectionate with another woman. If he’s just my husband for the heck of it, meaning he’s there to provide for me, taking care of my needs and putting a roof over my head, then I would be ok with polygamy. 🤷🏼♀️
This is the kind of English that goes over my head!
@@InshalHassan-r4s there are many online courses for beginners out there!
Justified. Ummu Al-Mu'miniin Aysha (RA) was jealous of Ummu Al-Mo'miniin Khadija (RA) so you are allowed to feel the same. That is our nature so we can't change it but that is insignificant in front of following your deen and being a good servant of Allah.
@@nyabl7324 I can be a good servant in many other ways thank you.
@@Oneworld-nc2kb I don't think you understand. You can't be good in some ways and some ways not. This is deen, take it all or leave it all. Please be mindful of what you say about core believe of Islam and may Allah guide us to the all truth.
I applaud you brothers, ma sha Allah, the reasons you listed is why both my WIVES and I responded to this very video a few months ago. Extremely problematic. JazakAllahu khayr for setting the record straight.
Based brother MashaAllah
May Allah grant you barakah and happiness in your marriages
Based bro may Allah bless u and ur family
why do you caps lock wives lol
@@MeteorBoy23
He's a proud BIGAMIST(and rightly so)!!!
@@MeteorBoy23 so people know that our reaction video has with women who actually are familiar with polygyny first hand. It's one thing to have only men react or only women not involved in polygyny but another when you actually hear from women who are and theyre reacting in my opinion.
A lot of sisters have either witnessed or heard about how brothers have abused polygamy and left their wives feeling horrible. Brothers are quick to justify and defend instead of listening and understanding where the sisters are coming from. It's been normalized for brothers to have second wives when their first wife is already struggling in the marriage. Polygamy is halal and can be beautiful when it's done in the right way. Spiritual abuse is a real thing in the Muslim community and something that has to be discussed more.
What do you expect from these 2 wahabis?
Do you have studies that nowadays it's been normalised to marry a second wife when their first wife is struggling?
And struggling with what? What is the struggle that a woman can get by her husband having another wife?
What’s the right way??
@@Odignridk struggling with the finance, struggling with the kids, struggling with mental health, struggling with balancing the work life and home life. I don't need to have a studie, I can see it in my environment. Like I mentioned previously, by you being defensive and combative shows that there is something underlying. This is not a character trait of a Muslim man, ignoring the struggles of sisters. You do know that there are people who have been treated poorly in polygamy? This is not an unusual thing, you need to be more open minded and look around.
@@khaliifr3696 Treating both wives fairly and giving both wives their rights. Not neglecting either of the houses and making sure that both families are in a safe environment. Is this so hard to obtain?
I think its an important conversation a man and a woman should consider having before getting married. Specifically what it would look like in terms of resources etc. Unfortunately, too many men who have no business taking a second wife and do not pass the basic requirements, they expect the first wife to suffer the consequences of their decisions on her household. He may take a second wife, but if he's unable to fulfil his obligations, then she has legitimate grounds to leave. It's not easy, and the burden is on the man to ensure its done smoothly and equitably. Allah SWT also advices a man to take one wife.
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@@Azura-adamson I hope there’s room for respectful discourse. Polygamy is an option with conditions and not the norm. There was always a reason for the prophet’s (PBUH) marriages and consideration behind it but the modern view seems to be, I want a second wife so I will regardless & anyone who challenges me about it needs to review their faith. I think that’s the type of attitude the sisters were referring to.
@@amalali504 It goes both ways. If a man has the capacity to take care of a second wife, he's automatically turned into a villain, when infact our prophet, and most of the sahabas already practiced it. This is the behaviour that Ali & Hijab were calling out, that the moment if someone utters the word polygamy, you directly start throwing words such as "spiritual abuse".
@@tanveer5655 Agree and unreasonable behaviour should be called out whether it’s the man or woman is doing it. I understand what the lady was getting at but I never like people using secular wording/logic when discussing the Deen because the wisdom behind many permissible and none permissible acts transcends it and I find the whole virtue signalling cheapens the point she’s trying to make and doesn’t further sensible discussion.
Beyond natural jealousy a woman may feel, I hope the husband is sensitive to the impact an addition would have on her world. There’s no doubt it was practiced by the salaf but I wish modern men would also emulate the spirit in which they did things, not just what they did.
@@amalali504 , yes
As someone who has various friends whom sisters are literally all getting treated like 2nd class women after her spouse re-married, no one of those fulfil the condition of Surah An-Nisa 4:3. As regards the permission to marry more than one wife (up to 4), it is so restricted by the condition by quran itself, “If you have reason to fear that you might not be able to treat them with equal fairness, then marry only one". A permission which is conditional upon his determination and ability to, not only by the desire itself, even it's also a valid part. Just show me one of your example man who's taking care of widows, reconciling families through marriage, freeing slaves, and educating his wives in the teachings of Islam. I might know one of various guys who is doing it right, so what's the conclusion for those that did marry various wifes, without even fulfiling the condition? This is the question that we need to get answered.
What is a "Second Class woman"? As opposed to "first-class women"? Not sure what your definition of justice is -- no Gucci bags for all? Interesting how you don't talk about what women have to bring to the table.
My friend literally paid for his wife's med school -- ofc that's his responsibility -- but also cooked for the house while working two jobs all to also pay for HER parent's rent, debt, and bills plus HER brother's college tuition. She now asserts it is her right to let her go to another country to start her medical residency for 3-5 years.
Tell me that's just. Tell me he does not have permission to remarry if she decides to pursue her "right". And is my friend being treated as a "second class man"?
@@SlazeM7 Sad stuff wallah
@@SlazeM7 he didnt have to marry her? Whats his issue
@@michiga5220 He did not know her that well. We do not date as Muslims and last I checked we should not blame the victim ... or is it okay to blame the victim cause it is a man in this case?
@@SlazeM7 I see what you mean but the advice I will be taking for myself is that marriage is such a serious matter you HAVE to have more discussions while unmarried with a potential spouse about needs, wants, study's, job opportunity and a whole lot of other stuff before getting married. Or then you will quite frankly yet yourself into a shit situation as you are describing and which I don't know what the best course of action is.
I think the problem is this polygamy topic is becoming girls vs boys. These sisters are not talking about the good muslim men who want to get a co wife. They are talking about situations where a brother is struggling with one wife- and then all of a sudden they bring another member to the already weaknesses there is. Respect to sisters who have the strength and agreement for polygamy happily. But also sisters who struggle with it - should not be shunned. Bringing another wife into the family- affects everyone. Everyone has a say- to what they are mentally able to deal with. No compulsion in the deen. A man who forces a wife to wear a hijab for eg- will not get the same acceptance from that wife towards it as the one where the husband has been patiently and with love educating her about hijab.
The mother comparison does not work. A cowife affects their own personal life directly.
A man has a duty to protect his wife. That does not just mean with muscles. But her mental state and state of iman too.
A woman puts children needs before her own- as they are under her as amanah. Likewise a woman is an amanah on the man.
If a man can see this ‘force of decision’ will affect his wifes, (the mother of his children ) iman and mental state- is it worth it ?
Thank you! I 100% agree.
I agree. And here we havemen saying it’s sunnah so we shouldn’t care about women’s “weak nature”. This is the exact type that isn’t morally equipped to be responsible of other people’s well-being, wives or even children.
The jealousy woman feel isn't even real jealousy. It's something they learned from other woman who look at a woman who's married to a man that has multiple wife's. In the past woman would find other woman they believed we're good so the husband would marry them. Most men that had some money had multiple wife's. It's not in the nature of a woman to be jealous of another wife unlike men which have a strong desire to not even let his wife be seen let alone. It's culture.
@@moealtwil7833 so the prophet’s wives that experienced jealousy wasn’t in their nature but learned from other women?
And what is your source of information for women and men’s natures?
Ps: Men’s strong desire to not let their wives be even seen is insecurity
@Western Liberal Ideology-leftNright-isHYPOCRITICALhonestly I’ve heard of a couple women that are completely okay with it but it’s because they’re absolutely done with their men lol and would love for another woman to inherit the responsibility of caring for an adult in addition to their kids
Basically men with an %100 indifferent wife are usually a burden rather than a partner.
I watched half of this episode and stopped and went back to the video they are reacting to. And from my point of view these brothers have misunderstood the whole message that our sisters are trying to point out.
With out understanding the message our bothers here are jumping into conclusions.
One thing that I realised is that this message or this discussion that our sisters are having are from a women's point of view and no matter how much a man tries to understanding the woman's point of view he will fail it needs a man and a half to understand a woman.
I'm sorry to say is that this video was very dramatic and very misleading in many ways I hope that the topic of polygamy is brought up again and rather then reacting maybe try and understand how polygamy should be carried out and also understand that every woman has a right to react to this change to her life. I will continue to watch this video for the sake of hearing both sides of this but our brothers have to do better. May Allah bless and help us all.
Edit I'm trying to understand our brothers but this is very disturbing
Agreed. I’ve watched both videos and in my humble opinion these two have completely not only missed what the sisters where trying to convey but, to top it off, where extremely rude and condescending in their tone. Calling these women selfish with an ego when they are literally talking about a very valid topic and are allowed to speak on issues that concern women. I honestly could not agree more with them. Polygamy is halal but the way men do it nowadays is absolutely messy and should be heavily criticised because it’s against the way our religion said to do it.
@@blossom.within very true. Its because this topic involves a man's actions it seems that there are getting too possessive and clearly can't understand what the sisters were actually talking about. They seemed to get emotional where one of them actually says 'shut up' multiple times directing it to women. It's sad that although it seems this video has had backlash these brothers don't see that the argument and inappropriate behaviour towards the sisters gives of a bad image and a bad influence to those who take them as role models
@@blossom.within against the religion? Or against your own thoughts please differentiatie. Feminism is ruining our beautiful religion
Thank you!, I have watched the sisters too, and these brothers just decided to be more dramatic, (toooo many) comments under this comment section lack so much understanding/empathy, and this video lacks understanding and empathy too
@@ninass8119 it is sad that muslim women are looked down upon by muslim men. It is heart breaking and sad to see that our sisters not only have to worry about non muslim men harassing her but also from her own community
My take on her mention of spiritual abuse was when a husband makes the wife feel deficient in her iman for her dislike in partaking in polygyny.
Which is sooooooooooo common loool. Even in my country Senegal
Absolutely.
Sometimes the problem is inside and not outside
They're feminist indoctrinated secularised women clearly, using their own subjective "feelings" so Allaah has legislated trauma, spiritual abuse and Allaah shouldn't have divinely instituted poligyny.
They're only talking from a purely emotive, jealous, feminist western propaganda against Islam, they're showing they have no understanding of Islam at all, women jump on this misandrist nonsense and don't reflect if they're even on the required spiritual levels and objectives of Islam as a wife/mother.
They're products of a completely failed Islamic & cultural upbringing and undeniably pushing feminism behind the hijaab, their fathers if Muslim should be ashamed, boycotted & shunned, nobody should EVER marry females like this & they're too many of them in Muslim communities, who cleverly wording their hatred for Islam as supposedly reasoned points.
& the whole time she's pushing ignorance and spiritual abuse against Allaah's legislation that the enemies of Islam applaud & use to attack the Islam through these kinds of secularised "sisters" who get all this garbage from feminist websites, books and feminist indoctrination in the western education system and then spew this as so called Islamic concerns.
The comments sections and those who thumbs up those garbage comments show how extremely unislamic these so "sisters" are, these comments are applauded by the disbelievers and enemies of Islam, well done feminists who are most unislamic than Islamic...💯
A reason why I believe a man should let his wife know of his intentions to remarry is to explore the reasons WHY he wants to seek another wife. It opens up a dialogue between the husband and wife and communicates respect.
Most of the men I know who have remarried/expressed their desire to remarry is because they’re ‘issues’ in the marriage. What marriage doesn’t have issues. I’m not against polygamy but I am against a man seeking another wife simply because he is dissatisfied with his first wife but HASN’T exhausted any efforts to try to reconcile with her. Thats a recipe for disaster as he’ll be entering the second marriage on the wrong footing, as immediately theres more chance he will favour the second wife and no doubt yrs down the line run into the same unresolved issues within himself with the second wife!
He can choose to remarry if he has the capacity for it, regardless if there are issues within the first marriage or not. Your comment is full of emotional wording, you are exactly the same as the females on the podcast. Also he doesn’t have to communicate the reason why he wants to do that, your test is to accept it and be patient as long as he treats his wives fairly then there should be no problem.
@@xAmiin I don't agree with this line of reasoning brother. It is true a man can make this decision without consulting the wife (as the Prophet did so), but if he knows it would be better to do so (it's likely that the Prophet, living in a polygamous society, knew his wives would expect him to take other wives even if their marriage was healthy), then he should do so. Husbands should always treat their wives best as possible, as the Prophet taught us. The sister brings up a good point and a wise man would consider this advice and take it to heart
A man doesn't need to "communicate" if he wants another wife. He can take upto 4 how he likes.
If a man does what you said, it would make him seem weak and pathetic honestly.
@@fark69 >consulting the wife
that's the most beta thing a man could do.
La Hawla wa la quwwata illa billah.
Why are you obligating a man to know how he will feel in let's say, five years from now?
She a muslimah? He a muslim? Entering nikah contract? Legislation is by THE Legislator. Has He obliged men to, upon entering the first nikah, explore why they would want to marry a second, third, fourth wife? La Hawla wa la quwwata illa billah. Don't you realize, it is the other way round: if anything, it is the first wife who should then explore what it is in her that doesn't allow her to peacfully submit and accept, completely pleased with the reality that her husband has THE RIGHT to marry three more wives, if he is able and if he wants to. It is not her right to set the boundaries before hand, while the husband in 10 or 15 years from now could get able and feel need to marry an other wife?
It is so painful to read these comments, where the bottom line is clearly the modern concept, and not the natural, fitrah concept.
Brother wallah if it’s a issue for women we should be careful and understanding of their emotions instead of calling them names as they are our sisters in deen - I love you for the sake of Allah but you needed to approach this more sensibly and understandingly jzakallahu khayr
A lot of women talk badly on polygamy . This is haram. But These women spoke well of it , they only just spoke on behalf of other womens experiences . These mens ego are out of this world . Didn’t even understand a word of these womens videos .
@@ANa-qt7tt ironically you don’t understand a word from the mens’ videos. Double standards right there
We have to obey to Allah not discuss his permissions or orders.
Yes, as a man I'd rather hear what women have to say on these matters than these immature men.
@@fatamorgana909 it is not a person’s statement. Qur’an is Allah’s words . How can you say the ayah was injustice. ?🙁. Ok Allah allowed not forced men to marry.If anyone can they should do.
I don't think the definition of abuse is clear to you. A woman marrying a man her mother doesn't approve of is sad for the mother, but it's not abuse. In fact, the other way around, that is, if the daughter didn't marry the man because her mother didn't want to, THAT would be abuse.
A man finding out his wife is cheating is heartbreaking for the man, but not being able to see her being punished in public is not abuse. It would be abuse if after finding out about her affair he were forced to stay in the marriage without any possibility of divorce.
These examples are not comparable to the experiences the sisters in the video were talking about.
Bruh stop making excuses for these feminists
@Hot 🔥 stuff no
What is the right way to practice polygamy? In ur opinion then
@@mjx1159 there only one “right” way the Islamic way according to the Quran, Hadith and scholarly jurisprudence
Biggest bullshit I’ve ever read… stop commenting please
Many Brothers who want polygyny always defend it by saying it is legislated. Why do they not argue as passionately for Muslim men to perfect all the other legislations regarding prayer, charity and uprightness? If a man feels it is his right to have another right, why would he hide it? Why don’t these defenders stress that men have to be emotionally and financially able to care for more tan one family? Polygyny was a vehicle for securing safety and security for widows & orphans. It is embarrassing for the Ummah when we often see polygamous family supported by social welfare. Often. Or the women are the ones paying the majority of the bills. These women in Tea Talk are sharing real experiences . Truth hurts but is fact
How can you assume that they don’t talk about other important matters? Just because it’s a topic you don’t like you can’t assume that’s all they talk about
@Western Liberal Ideology-leftNright-isHYPOCRITICAL replying to the other person
This is a very bad argument. People only make this argument when they have nothing to stand on. You can find a local masjid where brothers and sisters are defending those other things like prayer, you can find various charity programs also.
Women, for your own protection you can write it down in your nikkah contract that he cannot marry another woman and that will be the end of it as it becomes forbidden for him. Just as he has his rights, you have yours, but also make sure this is something discussed before marriage so you don’t end up broken x
Is it permissible to do this? I have heard it isn't.
@@leilaabdelmeguid3977 it is
@@leilaabdelmeguid3977 It is, the least you can do is divorce the guy if he marries another by stating this beforehand on the contract for your own protection. Those who say no are only saying no for backwards cultural reasons & because they expect women to just be okay with it and act as if we have no rights (typically ‘men’) when we actually do Alhamdulillah.
@@webiplus No, it's not. It's her right: ua-cam.com/video/yedc0uZtKbI/v-deo.html
@@webiplus you can put anything you want in a marriage contract and it is your right as long as it’s not encouraging something haram or going against the deen. Polygamy isn’t fard and is permissible for certain circumstances. Not wanting your husband to marry another woman is not haram and putting it in a contract is fine as it is up to the individual to accept or deny. No one is forcing anyone here, it’s simply a unique agreement between a man and woman and each contract will be unique to the couple. I know a girl who put that she refuses to do dishes and her husband cannot expect it of her in their marriage. Weird request but also totally valid under the law. If you don’t like it just don’t accept it, but it’s unfair to think that women have no rights to have a say in the matter because we do. If we feel strongly enough about it to put it in our contract then it is our right and you are not going to take that away or manipulate it into being haram when it isn’t.
Also I believe almost all men cannot treat all wives equally... it's extremely difficult to do this especially knowing how sensitive women can be. You need to be highly emotionally intelligent to deal with multiple wives and treat them equally and unfortunately the large majority of men lack this🤷♀
And who said women should be treated equally? That doesn't mean everyone wont be treated fairly. If one of my wife goes to gym and want me to go with her, should i insist that the second wife should come along just so it can be equal? Polygamy is a different system of marriage, don't bring equality into it.
@@jeffreyagu2221 Not sure if you're Muslim but according to Islam and the Quran, a man can only marry up to four wives if he can treat all of his wives equally or provides equal treatment. For this reason, I will still continue to talk about equality whether you like it or not.
''If one of my wife goes to gym and want me to go with her, should i insist that the second wife should come along just so it can be equal? ''
No, it doesn't mean you also need to bring your second wife to the gym (especially if she doesn't enjoy working out) but you should know how to spend quality of time with each wife equally. What's most important is providing equal attention, affection, love, care, respect, time, support and commitment.
@@zraj3433 Then equality should be replaced with fairness...
@@jeffreyagu2221 this is a no brainer question. If the 2nd wife doesn’t like the gym but likes tennis instead and wants you to join her another day, then just do that. 1st wife likes gym and you go with her. Simple.
Assuming 1st wife also agreed that you can re-marry, I am pretty sure the discussion on how you would handle spending time with your second time will also be brought up. Having multiple wives is a large responsibility and everything should be discussed beforehand until you’re both sure enough to proceed with it.
No brainer, literally.
@@zraj3433 That's Completely wrong, it doesn't say you have to treat then fairly or with justice, it says "if you FEAR" then marry only one, the quran then goes on to say that you can never treat wives equally even if you had the best intention, almost as a reply to those men that fear of causing injustice or not being fair.
As a brother I have to accept the fact that I can see where these sisters are coming from. I can't possibly put myself in their shoes. Are they robots that they can't verbalize their emotions. May Allah grant us the ability to be compassionate on how our mothers and daughters may Express their feelings
No, you can't "verbalize" your emotions if it means speaking kufr or kufr-like statements.
@@YeOldVisigoth if someone said “it’s really difficult to wake up for Fajr, especially when I have work because I feel so tired” would you tell them they are verging in kufr for talking about their challenge? Or would you offer encouragement and maybe a possible solution such as sleeping earlier or taking a nap during the day etc… Similarly I don’t think it’s a problem to have open conversations about the challenges Muslims face in their deen
@@82kmal JazakAllahu khayr
Ameen
@@82kmal You just contradicted yourself brother. These sisters are literally doing the opposite of encouraging or motivating. They are breaking and corrupting families. You are allowed to voice your challenges and seek help in fact you are encouraged to do so, but you cannot speak opposing Islamic Shari'a as these sisters have done.
When they talked about betrayal they were talking in the case when he promised her (gave his word to her) that she would be the only one but he ended doing it behind her back. And the trauma it’s real because you ended up thinking your not enough for your husband so you start developing self esteem issues. The same would be if your beloved akhi promised something to you and ended up breaking his promise. This is what happens when the second marriage it’s not done with good intentions and consideration. I always enjoyed watching your videos about a lot of issues but this time I think you missed a great characteristic in our deen: empathy. May Allah guide us to the right path. Amen.
Either way:
I agree. I don’t think these women were bashing the practice of polygamy. They were simply expressing how women might feel when deception is brought into this realm and that women truly experience emotional trauma and need professional help in some circumstances and sometimes the ummah fails to take the women’s side into account. What i see in this video is cherry picking speech to make these women look as feminist as possible. However, i do wish that honest tea talk had included someone who had experienced polygamy firsthand to even the viewpoint.
@@annamalinowski608 the ummah always fails to see womens side because its dominated by the males and male arrogance like these two.
"No one suffers like the faithful muslim women"
This quote is Truth.
It better be worth it sister.
@@peaceofmind1582 yeah, does my head in to be honest. As soon as women get together in a safe space to talk about issues that concern us, we are branded as 'verging on kufr'. I think what they said about struggling with Allah's will is natural because not everything that is decreed is easy to swallow and that's completely fine to acknowledge and talk about in the open. We should be able to talk about genuine emotions without being branded as a feminist. Feel like it got to a level of dangerous judgment from our brothers here and a complete lack of empathy and understanding. Sorry for the rant 😭 video got to me haha. I think if we just approached eachother with a more respectful attitude willing to learn from each others qualms, the takeaway would be so much more beneficial than this 'brothers Vs sisters on polygamy'. Having said that I did agree with the brothers on some points, just the overall tone of Ali Dawah I cannot support. No subtlety for sure.
@@annamalinowski608 from a guy the issue let me highlight what I saw wrong with the honest tea talk ( respectfully)
1. They made an entire talk about something in Islam without 1 verse or hadith or even an incident from the time of the prophet saw or sahaba. hence we can conclude they are not coming from an Islamic view . their points it may be extreme to call them feminist but if Islam is not the foundation of such a discourse its quite problematic
2. they used a lot of harmful words in their discourse about a matter Allah allowed upon men
3. They gave their feelings but never talked about how a man should approach polygamy
4. They failed to look at the male perspective on similar matters as men have more responsibilities in the house and community but we can't dare tag it as "spiritual abuse" so same for this issue calling something Allah gave to men as spiritual abuse is "verging on kuffur"
"empathy" is not a case here because it goes both ways I would say women should have more empathy for men not removing the difficulty of accepting polygamy but they are so many difficult tasks that men must engage in but we don't receive such empathy, do we?
"safe space" should not be a place that has no foundation in Islam should be taken from. the brothers are right to call them out although their mannerisms may not be the best
and lastly, had she given examples from the life of prophet saw or sahaba on how to handle it that would be the way to go but to just say she gets a divorce is insensitive and just bad advise as someone in a polygamous family if this happened I don't even know where I would be today
Stop being a bully Hijab. You've made several refutations of their videos, yet you don't invite them on to clarify. You've taken alot of what they've said out of context. They are speaking on issues related to their experiences and professions. Why is an alternative discussion to the ideal so dangerous?
I agree tht hijab could have exercised more ikhlas. However, when muslim sisters are sitting in a discussion and saying things like "Islamically its halal but morally..." and "Islamic scholarship doesnt help the matter" insinuating that allah has allowed for us immoral practices and islamic scholarship is of no help in the matter related to sharia is quite jarring no matter where u see it from.
They cant be discussing their own emotions and opinions and call it "islamic perspective" while not mentioning a single verse of quran or hadith.
@@omarriyami2923 They never claimed to be shaykhas, they only talking as women in the muslim community. It's not an Islamic lecture, it's a talk about women's issues. Hijab gives his own opinions too, and it's even worse because he gives Islamic advise even though he's not a shaykh.
@@omarriyami2923 You understood it totally different from what they said. They are saying that Islamic scholars are sometimes insensitive to women's issues. Sometimes imams dismiss valid concerns that women have. They forget to recognize the realities and societies we live in, and issues women face. So that's what the sisters are addressing. There are more problematic people out there than these sisters, I don't understand why so many refutations are being made about them.
@@Reem-ne7nn You don't need to be a Sheikh to know if Allah allows immoral actions or not AstaghferAllah. And you also don't need to be a Sheikh to advise one another. Especially on a weird matter like this where Allah's decisions are questioned.
I am very sad, brothers, why all this attack on these women? You didn't even talk about the basic condition that allows a man to have polygamy? Justice and integrity are a prerequisite for polygamy. Many men do not know the rights of one wife, so how will justice be achieved between two people? And to be fair, many of the male brothers are trying to do so, as they know women's rights only in theory and do not know how to apply it in practice. Perhaps they did not find a good role model in their lives, and they did not find someone to guide them from old men with experience in happy families. I mean, look around you and you find that those who have good parents are successful in their relationships. Contrary to those who have fathers, they did not have the blessing of understanding and agreement with women, and these are the majority in this time in which we live. Also, there are other reasons, such as raising children in our time, which is not what it was before. They did not get enough experience to grow up as mature men due to lack of social experience. The main point I want to convey is that if a man is financially and physically able and has the successful personality to manage situations that make him satisfied all parties, he married another woman in a right way, his wife would never think of leaving him.
polygamy is a man's right, so you saying "many men dont know women's rights" yet you are trying to dismiss the man's right which is he can have other wives, sound hypocritical.
@@vortexlight8387 he wasn't dismissing polygany, it's a wise fact that if you know your rights and the rights of your spouse, your marriage has a better chance of success.
Better to discuss what kind of school of thought you follow, how you plan to live, difference in praying or not, discuss all these things before entering a marriage, and you have a better head start than many ignorant relationships.
@@vortexlight8387 It's a right of a man only if he can meet the requirements.
@@SELFMOTIVATION007 thats litterally every tight in islam, as long as you meet the requirements.
@@vortexlight8387 yes but there are rules before men can take other wives. and guess what a woman does not have to agree with you she can divorce you for exactly this. that is her right as a wo too. now move on and stop acting as if wo do all this for their pleasure.
no these are tests from god from the headscarf to always wearing longsleeves etc and having to accept your husband taking a second wife. these are not fun things to do but most do it not for their love to their husbands but to their gods. and even there god is good and gives them right to ask to divorce
Wow 2 men talking about how women shld feel abt polygamy 🤦🤷♂️
Umm the Prophet SAW was a man question mark
@@bekim4978 there not him
@@michiga5220 so the alternantive to that is what exactly brother? and what will be the islamic precedence in sunnah and hadith in the response you want to give
@@abdulhakeemsanni7937 be logical look at things unbiased and dont just go of things because one is male or female just seek.truth, how hard is that for you people?
@@michiga5220 you should be asking yourself that question not me, ..and no I am no being logical when it comes to my deen, should I extrapolate? Yeah sure, not logical, I follow what I am commanded and if I can't, I know I have fallen short and try to improve, not logic, which is what you are doing
I didn’t watch the whole video as I felt it very unfairly attacked the sisters that were only trying to address a serious issue .The argument of not needing to show compassion to a sister suffering in a polygamous marriage is just cold and out of character for Muslims. Of course it is the right of a man,no one is disputing this. The woman also has her God given rights that also need to be met. When a Muslim is dealing with a trial ,they need compassion. No one wants to be told to suck it up and get over it. Would you say that to a person suffering from cancer? No! You would remind them of Allahs reward and seeking help and patience in what Allah has chosen for them. If someone loses a child would you say , stop grieving and get over it, Allah doesn’t burden a soul beyond what they can bare? No! You would deal with them with the best manners and compassion. Why would you expect a sister not to feel sadness when her husband has taken another wife? Maybe women shouldn’t love their husbands in order to protect themselves? Of course not, the woman will go through a period of loss and should be properly advised with compassion. Don’t even get me started on men that can’t afford one family, but feel entitled to have another family. Wives and children have rights that must be met before even considering a new family. May Allah enlightenment men and put mercy in their hearts for women, May He give patience to the sisters being tested with what they love most Ameen
Aameen
@@Ibrah-ibrah
JazakAllah khair for such a well written explanation.
Alhumdulilah for knowledgeable people that are able to understand and help others to also grasp the truth.
@Western Liberal Ideology-leftNright-isHYPOCRITICAL hurts like hell better to be single than experience the amount of emotional pain a person go through.I had nightmares and nifo years.I have been single for years and I can say I would rather much be single than ever be in that kind of situation again
Out of fairness watch it all
@@sinnari-7329
Fairness would be for these two to put themselves in the same shoes as a sister who is under the authority of her husband that doesn’t provide for her basic needs , but wants another wife to pleasure himself..
The practice of polygamy today looks nothing like that of the time of the Prophet (saw). Women and their children have rights that men are not meeting. Why can’t the community come together with understanding for these women? Polygamy can be something positive if everyone’s rights are being met. Women shouldn’t have to be the breadwinners of their families while their husbands are setting up new families. That puts an unfair strain on the women and children.
Men who are able to provide for their families with time and resources are best suited to support 2 families.
Men are in need of advice on how to practice polygamy fairly and the dangers of not doing so. Islam does not allow for the oppression of women and children,especially not by those assigned to care for them.
I think this is needed to counteract what seems to be becoming a movement against polygamy. But what these sisters talk about is real, the abuse happens and it’s very real. I have seen sisters destroyed by brothers who very much do abuse them spiritually , just like this was needed ,brothers speaking out against the injustice of their fellow brothers is also needed . Maybe another video explaining that regardless of whether all
Men are polygamous or not , polygamy is not a joke and with one wife or four , the rights should not be abused and women should not be oppressed. I know woman who’s husbands have oppressed them and beaten them for years then taken second wives while not financially providing and other brothers in the dawah field have turned a blind eye as to not make the dawah scene look bad . The video you made would have been better without the mockery and with a little understanding of why this movement is rising , it’s the other extreme and caused by lack of acknowledgment of the real oppression faced by sisters . Both sides need to get of the defence and realise that it’s not about who will win the argument , it’s about teaching men and woman both the right way to maintain and uphold a happy home .
@@myffc8896 they feel that way because of how bad it has gotten many men abuse polygamy (btw we aren’t just talking about that little jealousy because it’s normal even the prophets wives had it) we are talking about something else the fact that many men abuse polygamy it has stricken fear into many sisters hearts/it has given polygamy a bad name. And it’s not talked about, people seem to always want to cover the underlying issue
@@myffc8896 things Mohammed hijap and Ali should understand is that the Sisters channel is mostly based in talking about experience things from others perspectives, struggles within the community that are overlooked. and the message Muslim sisters convey is not wrong not in their world/in their perspective, from the perspective of Muslim sisters polygamy to them is what (people) has established what polygamy is, not what Islam has established. (and a large amount of those people are the ones who have abused it/or they are the ones that have seen/heard about the abuse and decided to do nothing about it), that's why the sisters (whom ali and hijab are reacting to) that's why they are speaking about this problems because we aren't meant to run away from problems but confront them and find the underlying issue otherwise the problem will become bigger..
@@myffc8896 and let me ask you something, let's say the city you live in you hear one or two people were beaten badly while going to buy some grocery or ice cream at night, the one that did the beating was never caught, and there is still a very good chance out there for you to get beaten up by someone....the question is.... Will you ever feel safe to walk out at night, and if you decide to walk out at night will you bring some sort of protection with you?.
@@myffc8896 you guys aren't understanding what they are saying, they aren't attacking Islam nor polygamy/good pious Muslim men, their intention is not to attack y'all are missing the message behind their sayings which is so easy to pinpoint, this brothers are really just dragging it, when you are done watching this try to watch the sisters video/understand it. Try to see it through their eyes, put yourself in their shoes for you to maybe understand it better, because I really don't see what y'all are trying to prove, how can harmless talk about someones experience be dangerous. I'm really trying to understand your point of view but I just don't see it.
@@myffc8896 yes that's exactly what I'm trying to say, and anyone in your place would do the same/or bring some protection like you did with ayatul kursi, or any other in your place would try to avoid staying out at night late, they would always processed with caution. Do you understand now the message behind this.
Sorry, this is too sensitive a topic for two over-privileged brothers to understand, let alone judge
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How are they over-privileged ? Honest question.
@@mindfulstoic3095 Well for starters, these brothers are male (which automatically comes with its own privileges) but on top of that, they live very comfortable lives as popular social media personalities and therefore lack the required empathy to discuss a topic that has been the cause of unthinkable suffering and grief for some women. However, may Allah Almighty guide & assist Mohammed and Ali in their overall efforts, ameen. They generally do a good job.
@@richardpreece5384 Oh god, i should have abstained from asking, i was hoping for an elaborate answer, i wasn't prepared for this....
They are overly privileged because they are males ? As a starter ? You should have left this one last akhi haha
I stopped reading at this non sense. Being a male isn't a privilege (nor being a female), let alone an OVER-privilege. I can't argue with this new age nonsensicle WOKE rhetoric that seems to be hijacking our oumma as well, we're up for a bad start already. May allah guide us all.
They're feminist indoctrinated secularised women clearly, using their own subjective "feelings" so Allaah has legislated trauma, spiritual abuse and Allaah shouldn't have divinely instituted poligyny.
They're only talking from a purely emotive, jealous, feminist western propaganda against Islam, they're showing they have no understanding of Islam at all, women jump on this misandrist nonsense and don't reflect if they're even on the required spiritual levels and objectives of Islam as a wife/mother.
They're products of a completely failed Islamic & cultural upbringing and undeniably pushing feminism behind the hijaab, their fathers if Muslim should be ashamed, boycotted & shunned, nobody should EVER marry females like this & they're too many of them in Muslim communities, who cleverly wording their hatred for Islam as supposedly reasoned points.
& the whole time she's pushing ignorance and spiritual abuse against Allaah's legislation that the enemies of Islam applaud & use to attack the Islam through these kinds of secularised "sisters" who get all this garbage from feminist websites, books and feminist indoctrination in the western education system and then spew this as so called Islamic concerns.
The comments sections and those who thumbs up those garbage comments show how extremely unislamic these so "sisters" are, these comments are applauded by the disbelievers and enemies of Islam, well done feminists who are most unislamic than Islamic...💯
I think the sisters held an intelligent conversation which needed to be had. Please brothers, let's not nitpick for the sake of it. Why is it when a woman expresses her view/experience of polygamy that brothers always go on witch hunt and feel they need to refute.
Brothers, at the beginning of the vid the sisters say Allah swt has spoken on polygamy and we accept. KHALas, why have you made this video if it is not to disect the conversation and infer your own interpretation and meanings. Take a seat and let sisters speak build safe spaces to speak and share ideas w/o brothers jumping on the bandwagon and screaming feminist. This video is so out of order of you.
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Absolutely. It seems as if screaming “feminist/feminism” is the latest boogeyman to be unleashed & targeted towards Muslim sisters who dare speak out about concerns they may have. How difficult is it to conceive the idea that Muslim women are able to formulate ideas independent of feminist theory.
This culture of brothers racing to chastise & “refute” Muslim women raising concerns with knee-jerk reactions of “You are corrupting the ummah” “spreading feminist rhetoric” is an effective silencing tool with a clear goal to discourage more sisters from speaking up.
"Intelligent" absolutely not.
So when has "feelings" "layers of trauma upon trauma, spritual abuse" only become the moral compass in Islam. If you live in the west you would get shivers and cold when you see Islamic justice meted out to a criminal especially a robber, a bandit or a rapist so would you cry like it is "layers of trauma upon trauma" thus negating what is revealed directly in the Quran???
@@muhammadansarahmed6039 Feminist Tedtalk bs bro
I mostly agree with the brothers here, but I think there's a simple way out of all this.
If you are a Muslim woman and you don't want your husband to practise Polygamy then fine, just add it as a condition in your marriage contract. This means he should never break his promise.
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This is a permissible stipulation in Shari'ah as well. So yes, it is a solution for a woman who knows she is absolutely too jealous or knows she just simply doesn't want to ever share her husband.
@@MK-sl5qc This is the problem.. divorce is not a simple matter is not like changing cloths!! The ultimate goal of marriage is to build a family a safe haven for the children and the parents.. chop chop attitude is certainly far from this!!
you cant forbid that which allah has granted, it cant be a islamic contract while nullifying islamic rulings within the contract. this is like saying lets write a contract with a clause that we dont have to abide by the law that gives this contract legitimacy.
@@customerservice2704 No. This is like saying we get married on the basis that we don't relocate.. etc. Polygamy is not Sunnah, you don't become a better Muslim through Polygamy.
I love how the one on the left keeps saying he loves these sisters as his own & then rips into them the next. Learn some compassion. He’s got major anger issues. All they are doing is discussing some real life situations where this ruling can be abused by men who are not stable enough to take on more than 1 wife in one time. They never said “in all cases this happens”. I think they are the ones who are bullying them in this situation sorry to say. Shame I really liked M.H but this is just a brutal attack on them.
Yeah for women apparently men just can’t. Shows us a ruling where it say what men must be capable to do support multiple wives to support this claim? Or it is just women’s greed to not share her husband resources.
They're feminist indoctrinated secularised women clearly, using their own subjective "feelings" so Allaah has legislated trauma, spiritual abuse and Allaah shouldn't have divinely instituted poligyny.
They're only talking from a purely emotive, jealous, feminist western propaganda against Islam, they're showing they have no understanding of Islam at all, women jump on this misandrist nonsense and don't reflect if they're even on the required spiritual levels and objectives of Islam as a wife/mother.
They're products of a completely failed Islamic & cultural upbringing and undeniably pushing feminism behind the hijaab, their fathers if Muslim should be ashamed, boycotted & shunned, nobody should EVER marry females like this & they're too many of them in Muslim communities, who cleverly wording their hatred for Islam as supposedly reasoned points.
& the whole time she's pushing ignorance and spiritual abuse against Allaah's legislation that the enemies of Islam applaud & use to attack the Islam through these kinds of secularised "sisters" who get all this garbage from feminist websites, books and feminist indoctrination in the western education system and then spew this as so called Islamic concerns.
The comments sections and those who thumbs up those garbage comments show how extremely unislamic these so "sisters" are, these comments are applauded by the disbelievers and enemies of Islam, well done feminists who are most unislamic than Islamic...💯
I'm going to be honest and say it. Alot of men re-marry out of lust and nothing more.
Ali saying the breakdown of the family unit is due to feminism......erm what's feminism got to do with men going out for milk and never comming back ?
Because femenism makes thier life unbearable as a father....feminist only care about thier rights+ privileges+entitlement....not about thier responsibility
Brother and sisters both tend to be very extreme on this issue, for the brothers... The Sahabah most times re-married to protect the sisters in the community whos husbands became shaheed, or were no longer there for whatever reason. They re-married so that those single mothers/sisters would not be left alone in society, and were not left without provision. The Sahabah protected the women in society through marriage and polygamy, and then took care of their responsibities. Meanwhile we struggle with taking care of our own obligation and responsibilities just between us and Allah, let alone with one wife and kids, let alone with multiple families. May Allah make it easy for us to love the way of Allah and his Prophet, follow the Sunnah and love the Sunnah, and help us to align and force our nafs to love the way of Allah and his Rasool OVER our our souls and our own desires. May Allah help us to be just with the people in our lives, the women in our lives, and the community at large.
Exactly people are living in a fantasy land
Also Allah clearly made men to desire sex more than women
@@fifiadan just because something is desired does not mean it should be satisfied. Inhibiting our carnal desires is part of what it means to live in a healthy, modern society.
@@fifiadan that’s not true
@@looveeyouu5384 Clearly is. Across all societies ever men have desired multiple women and frivolous sex. No women wants to be with multiple men, women desire security from one man
I can’t with you two. I reverted to Islam when I was nineteen. I’m now 69. I married my then, husband shortly after I became Muslim. My husband was not a stranger to me in the sense I’ve known him from the time I was in 3rd grade.
So exactly 1 yr almost to the date he marries my late co-wife. Now we are all, the three of us African American reverts to Islam, so the concept of polygamy is truly foreign and strange, but it is a part of our Deen, so we must deal with it regardless. So being new Muslims, having to learn the religion and now having to deal polygamy also was not easy. So did he do it right, no he did not, was he dishonest, yes he was, for example, he told my late co-wife that he an I were getting a divorce so she would marry him, among other deceitful things, that I can’t even speak of. So for the two of you who want to sit up there and act like men don’t do all kinds low down acts in the name of what you refer to as an institution, give me a break. Muslim men engage in all types of dishonorable and immoral behavior when they want to have multiple wives. Clearly this is the type of behavior these sisters are talking about. So as Muslim woman are we suppose to except this behavior from our husbands an be happy about how he has carried this out. Yes brother there are true horror stories that Muslim men commit such as sleeping with the women in secret before he marries her, so on top of how the husband has betrayed his first wife then she is expected to hide his faults and smile to the world. I don’t know what planet the two of you live on, but you two need to take a seat.
These two are very judgemental and often miss the point of the basic teachings of Islam. It’s really frustrating because they often do more harm than good. I’m so upset that they up and went to Leicester to add fuel to an already bristling fire. Mosques are telling young brothers to stay indoors and away from any situations that could result in violence, then Hijab travels all the way to Leicester to entice young brothers to do the opposite of what Masjids are instructing.
It comes down to, yes to polygamy but.. theres allways the verbal judo, so many detractors here, but none of them are telling what the proper way of the act of polygamy should be.. still waiting.. crickets.
You have any proof to your claim ?
These two are clowns these days honestly. Continuing with their women hating agenda
@@mshamun7514 lol stop trying so hard to shut down the trauma of others, these things happens.
ali da’wa really shouldn’t be commenting about stuff like this and constantly voicing his opinions as he doesn’t actually have any formal background in Islamic studies and its sciences. he rants too much and gets emotional really quickly.
Men talking about the suffering of polygamy is funny
I feel like hijab misunderstood the first point that was mentioned by the sister. It wasn't about spiritual abuse from God. It was about husbands using the "god card" against their wives.
PS. This is just clarifying the point not condemning or condoning it.
well the sisters were saying that if a husband does polygamy then that's spiritual abuse which implies that this halal act from Allah is spiritually abusive.
@@a.abdalla4401 wrong. They said if the husband says because you are 'struggling' to accept this (jealousy, feeling inadequate etc) then you are lacking in faith. Jealousy is NATURAL as Ali pointed out, even Aisha RAA was jealous. Was she told she aas lacking in faith? The danger with saying this, makes a woman think if I cannot overcome these NATURAL human emotions, then I cannot be a good Muslim. I have heard of women leaving Islam because of this.
@@froyo212 feeling jealous is normal. husbands have no right to say such a thing.
The problem is with men who want enter into polygamous marriages, and they don't even pray their 5 daily Salaah. If you are not going to fulfill the rights of Allah, how can we expect you to fulfill the rights of multiple wives.
Polygamy is not easy, men have to be completely equal in their dealings with their wives, and Allah SWT has said that if you can not be equal then just marry one.
It is hard enough to maintain a relationship with one wife, nevermind multiple wives.
There is a lack of God fearing muslim men in the 21st century, and there are countless examples of men entering into second and third marriages without fulfilling the rights of the wives correctly.
then dont marry that man...
@@noticing33 hahaha couldn't have said it any better.
Why are you even be with a Husband who doesn't pray? Just divorce him and marry a pious guy. Then He'll decide if he needs another wife or not!
@@rikudotenin9773 it's a similar thing among the disbeleivers, the women moan about men this and men that, yet they pick the dodgy men repeatedly and and then whine about men being bad meanwhile they've probably rejected a dozen prospects cuse theyre not tall or rich enough, or amongst muslim women, they're TOoo practicing AND not tall or rich enough lolll.
@@noticing33 Exactly, everything is done off emotion and not logic. And when you point that out, you're the bad guy.
I probably won't reply to this comment anymore but tbh i haven't met a single man who's good enough to engage in polygamy properly
I'm happy that you have such confidence in youre Islamic analysis of your brother's, but alhamdullilah Allah in his all-knowing Nature is the one to judge that.
I know various,U must be from d west
@@sonicryu2769 why such a conclusion? You think if the man is from the east it's all good?
@@sonicryu2769 I've never been to the west
@@schokobar5128 i didn't make an islamic analysis at all 😅
I might’ve missed something here. But it seems like the sister speaking is “quoting” other sisters who are coming to her with this discourse, not from herself. Brother Ali and Mo Hijab is taking it as if she is speaking on behalf of herself.
The right way to go about it is to stay monogamous. Polygamy is not a requirement..
As a woman I never against polygamy as it is not a sinful act, we are living in a society where bf/gfs are accepted but polygamy is like committing a crime. We have to remember our life is a test that’s it. Regardless of polygamy it is the man who has to be just towards his wives.
Edit: I think people here missed the point when I wrote life is a TEST. Perhaps polygamy will be a test for some.Hence, we all will be tested in one way or another.
True!
@Touhami Not just, just considerate and obedient.
Very well said
Yes but Allah recommends marrying one woman. Thus men should not go after things that might break their first marriage as divorce is the only halal act that Allah does not like.
In Canada it’s illegal to have a second wife here. So if my husband is breaking the laws of where he lives, it’s considered haram.
I understand that you come from the perspective that men and women are different but the irony of this emotionally charged response to a group of women talking about their feelings and experiences in polygamous relationships is hilarious. You are disingenuous in your response to not acknowledge that despite polygamy being permissible that it can be (and is in many cases) mishandled in a way that causes women more than just small anxiety and discomfort. Relationships and life is full of suffering and anxiety but to downplay these women's feeling about cases where they may have dealt with men and families and cultures who did not handle their suffering well displays your lack of consideration and emotional maturity. This response was ridiculous, you could have addressed issues you had in more intelligent way than nitpicking phrasing
Again you failed to understand what the brothers are saying. Miserably failed. They are talking about a brother who tries a Muslim provide for his wife and then goes for a second wife. They already said they agree that brothers don’t carry out Polygamy to how it was done. So why argue in something we agree. No Quran or Sunnah given by these sisters. I ask you accept the challenge and show us how it’s done properly. No emotion. Just Quran and Sunnah. Go!
I’m 19 and I’m gonna be completely honest, I am truly terrified of even the thought of my future husband inshallah getting a second wife, I wouldn’t make he’s life impossible for that though, I just don’t feel like I can handle the fact that my husband is in a relationship with another woman. I would feel like I’m miserable and not good enough like it doesn’t sounds right in my heart. That’s my opinion btw maybe polygamy is a blessing in some case, but I just don’t like it at all
Sister make sure before you get married to specify in your marriage contract that you do NOT allow your husband to marry any additional wives and also include whatever consequences he must pay if he breaks this contract (keep the fates of any future children in mind).
My mother kept talking about marriage as a prison even though she had no issue in her marriage with my father. She was very lazy didn't like any kind of work or cooking food or cleaning up our home wouldn't be swept even twice a week. Kitchen and house was always a mess. My father never complained he provided a good life but my mother was not even bothered to buy proper furniture and curtains. Most of the time we wouldn't even have curtains in the home she was so lazy.
My sisters picked up from her. They would keep talking about women's capabilities and rights. But i would have to do all the work outside the house, shopping, fixing things snd often ( when I was around 12 years or so) I would sweep the house my myself and as I got older I tried to learn cooking.
My sister for 15 years of her marriage her house would look like a disaster zone. Till date neither her daughters nor herself can drive or ride a vehicle of any kind. She never did any work at home it was horrible going to her house. . My other sister got married to a hindu and her mother in law who lived with them she fixed her habits. Same with her daughter only she married a muslim. Her other daughter is 30 and not married.
Women make homes toxic. Don't fall into wrong guidance. Your life will turn I to hell.
You're right to feel this way. Jesus and His disciples in the Enjeel have a far better teaching for this. Muhammed should have followed it. Jesus is worthy to be trusted in. Read yourself. God bless you.
@@lcs-salamJesus never got married 😂😂😂.
You feel this way because your still a kid. In 10 years times you will think different
The sisters didn’t say anything wrong??? They gave good advice???
Did you watch the whole thing??!
@@themadakh3229 yes, did you?… if you did, did you truly understand the sisters video?
They're feminist indoctrinated secularised women clearly, using their own subjective "feelings" so Allaah has legislated trauma, spiritual abuse and Allaah shouldn't have divinely instituted poligyny.
They're only talking from a purely emotive, jealous, feminist western propaganda against Islam, they're showing they have no understanding of Islam at all, women jump on this misandrist nonsense and don't reflect if they're even on the required spiritual levels and objectives of Islam as a wife/mother.
They're products of a completely failed Islamic & cultural upbringing and undeniably pushing feminism behind the hijaab, their fathers if Muslim should be ashamed, boycotted & shunned, nobody should EVER marry females like this & they're too many of them in Muslim communities, who cleverly wording their hatred for Islam as supposedly reasoned points.
& the whole time she's pushing ignorance and spiritual abuse against Allaah's legislation that the enemies of Islam applaud & use to attack the Islam through these kinds of secularised "sisters" who get all this garbage from feminist websites, books and feminist indoctrination in the western education system and then spew this as so called Islamic concerns.
The comments sections and those who thumbs up those garbage comments show how extremely unislamic these so "sisters" are, these comments are applauded by the disbelievers and enemies of Islam, well done feminists who are most unislamic than Islamic...💯
They're feminist indoctrinated secularised women clearly, using their own subjective "feelings" so Allaah has legislated trauma, spiritual abuse and Allaah shouldn't have divinely instituted poligyny.
They're only talking from a purely emotive, jealous, feminist western propaganda against Islam, they're showing they have no understanding of Islam at all, women jump on this misandrist nonsense and don't reflect if they're even on the required spiritual levels and objectives of Islam as a wife/mother.
They're products of a completely failed Islamic & cultural upbringing and undeniably pushing feminism behind the hijaab, their fathers if Muslim should be ashamed, boycotted & shunned, nobody should EVER marry females like this & they're too many of them in Muslim communities, who cleverly wording their hatred for Islam as supposedly reasoned points.
& the whole time she's pushing ignorance and spiritual abuse against Allaah's legislation that the enemies of Islam applaud & use to attack the Islam through these kinds of secularised "sisters" who get all this garbage from feminist websites, books and feminist indoctrination in the western education system and then spew this as so called Islamic concerns.
The comments sections and those who thumbs up those garbage comments show how extremely unislamic these so "sisters" are, these comments are applauded by the disbelievers and enemies of Islam, well done feminists who are most unislamic than Islamic...💯
I don't know why it was so easy to manipulate you Ali. Stop hanging out with in the same echo chamber and you'll be able to think with your own voice. Once upon a time you weren't so impressionable. And for your information, the sisters were just speaking about how having difficulty with something halal (something even our mothers of Islam sometimes struggled with) is being held as a doubt on their level of faith and live for God. Thats it man.
Br Mohammed’s videos are honestly so wholesome to watch. It has the exact factors needed for the younger generation to benefit as well as the general public to learn about Islamic teachings. Never stop doing these videos brother. Jazakallah khair!!
Assalamu alaikum everyone, if anyone wants to know islam or LOGIC, please check my name
Muslim is a religion of bad ideas. This guy can't even have an entire conversation without interrupting whenever his belief and ideas are being challenged. I've watched some of his interviews, and every single one of them keeps interrupting.
Jesus taught against divorce and polygamy, strange God would permit it 500 years later through Muhammad… 🤔
@@sojernon8689 Deuteronomy 21:15 New International Version (NIV) The Right of the Firstborn 15 If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons but the firstborn is the son of the wife he does not love,
@@sojernon8689 ~*600 not 500. hmm i invite you to read and study Quran. i recommend you to start with surah nisa "chapter 'women' " :) May Almighty Allah allow u and me and everyone in the list of those people whom he loves and protect us from being unjust to ourselves and may Allah show u and give u strength to accept the right path and message
Brothers, she was talking about having option to not stay in polygamy and that there should not be any pressure for them to stay in a situation which is too difficult for them- and that a person should not use the ‘god card’ as in force her to stay in or judge her for wanting to leave- do you not get that? No one says it is wrong- but not for anyone- you are looking at it as roborts
Ali dawah why is it that you have more akhlaaq when speaking to Oli London than your own muslim sisters. I cant believe how badly these men speak about sisters in Islam. Stick to mukbangs with transsexuals in future
I find it strange that we have so many people debating polygamy when they couldn’t even afford to be in a polygamous relationship to begin with so why are they even talking about it.
For instance, if you have 2 wives, unless you can convince them to live together, you have to buy 2 houses without riba. 90+% of men can’t do this.
This ruling literally only applies to a tiny portion of the human population and ultimately serves the women from a societal point of view since it increases the woman’s ability to acquire a high quality man at the cost of 90+% of the male population.
it’s a religious discussion you don’t have to actually engage in polygamy to discuss it just like these three women would never want to engage in polygamy yet they are discussing it on camera
@@zodiyac of course you are allowed to. My question is why are so many people so obsessed with this topic especially considering it only affects a tiny portion of society.
@@HK-dd2bo well it’s obviously because there’s so many “muslim feminist” that constantly attack polygamy and shame the concept of it and any man or woman who wants to engage in it
@@zodiyac fair enough, I forget we live in crazy times 🤯
Polygamy marriages are corruption...
"""And you will never be able to be equal between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From Quran surah Nisa"""... Muslim ummah keep telling others don't follow your desires, women are desires!. But desires can be very powerful. They can hold sway over the mind and lead a person away from reality. When a person follows desires and submits to them, without giving consideration to the guidance received from God, he goes astray. Following of desires is directly linked to misguidance.
To understand the effect of desire it is important to analyze what desire does to human intelligence. It puts a curtain over the eyes of the mind. It makes a person so attached to its target that reality is overlooked. The conditions to understand reality include an objectivity to it. It means acceptance of reality whether palatable or bitter, whether it is for personal gain or against it. These conditions are not in line with the dictates of desire.
In another verse Almighty Allah puts forth this truth in even stronger terms. He calls desire the god of some human beings. He says: Have you seen him who has taken his desire to be his god? (Q 25:43). Such a god has been condemned in the strongest terms in Hadith. The Prophet (s) has said: There is no god under the sky that has been worshipped other than Allah that is worse than the desire. (Taken from Tafsīr Namūne). No other deity is as despicable as the human being’s own desire.
Imam al-Sādiq (a) says: Be apprehensive of your desires in the same way as you are apprehensive of your enemies. For there is no greater enemy for human beings than their own desires and what their tongues reap (Al-Kulaynī, al-Kāfī, 2: 336.)
Following of desires is often not recognized for the lowly quality it is. It can be masqueraded as freedom, having fun, being with the masses, etc. It clads a veil over the person as well as others who are exposed to him. Only those who have insight and reflect on reality are able to see through it.
This verse reminds us of the danger!
Polygamy marriages come under desires!Polygamy marriages are corruption...
Destroying the frist marriages!.
Jabir reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Satan places his throne over the water and he sends out his troops. The closest to him in rank are the greatest at causing tribulations. One of them says: I have done this and this. Satan says: You have done nothing. Another one says: I did not leave this man alone until I separated him from his wife. Satan embraces him and he says: You have done well.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2813
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim
"""And you will never be able to be equal between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From Quran surah Nisa"""... Muslim ummah keep telling others don't follow your desires, women are desires!. But desires can be very powerful. They can hold sway over the mind and lead a person away from reality. When a person follows desires and submits to them, without giving consideration to the guidance received from God, he goes astray. Following of desires is directly linked to misguidance.
To understand the effect of desire it is important to analyze what desire does to human intelligence. It puts a curtain over the eyes of the mind. It makes a person so attached to its target that reality is overlooked. The conditions to understand reality include an objectivity to it. It means acceptance of reality whether palatable or bitter, whether it is for personal gain or against it. These conditions are not in line with the dictates of desire.
In another verse Almighty Allah puts forth this truth in even stronger terms. He calls desire the god of some human beings. He says: Have you seen him who has taken his desire to be his god? (Q 25:43). Such a god has been condemned in the strongest terms in Hadith. The Prophet (s) has said: There is no god under the sky that has been worshipped other than Allah that is worse than the desire. (Taken from Tafsīr Namūne). No other deity is as despicable as the human being’s own desire.
Imam al-Sādiq (a) says: Be apprehensive of your desires in the same way as you are apprehensive of your enemies. For there is no greater enemy for human beings than their own desires and what their tongues reap (Al-Kulaynī, al-Kāfī, 2: 336.)
Following of desires is often not recognized for the lowly quality it is. It can be masqueraded as freedom, having fun, being with the masses, etc. It clads a veil over the person as well as others who are exposed to him. Only those who have insight and reflect on reality are able to see through it.
This verse reminds us of the danger!
Polygamy marriages come under desires! Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 62 :: Hadith 157
Narrated Al-Miswar bin Makhrama:
I heard Allah's Apostle who was on the pulpit, saying, "Banu Hisham bin Al-Mughira have requested me to allow them to marry their daughter to Ali bin Abu Talib, but I don't give permission, and will not give permission unless 'Ali bin Abi Talib divorces my daughter in order to marry their daughter, because Fatima is a part of my body, and I hate what she hates to see, and what hurts her, hurts me."... Even Prophet Muhammed pbah didn't give permission to his daughters husband to take a second wife!
Brothers and Sisters, let's not forget
Allah called the Muslim men and women, Awliyaa!
We are from one another in the battle against shaytaan to get to Jannah and not let him deceive us how he deceived our mother and father.
We need to work together not against eachother, this starts with thinking well of one another and overlooking our mistakes and giving benefit of the doubt in eachothers statements, that we all are intending good.
If the Muslim men and women become enemies society is finished as we are we the only ones with little good left.
May Allah help us all.
If there's one thing thing Shaytaan loves, it's to make a Muslim man and woman hate one another in a marriage.
It is much worse if he can create ideological divides between us on a community level through thinking the worst of eachother.
Allahul Musta'aan
Polygamy is disgusting. Dont let anything fool you
The way the presenters disregarded the Muslim women’s experience was disgraceful - that really upset me and showed how inexperienced and immature they are about this topic, women’s experience, woman’s rights, the family unit and the impact on the children involved and in turn society - very disappointing. Islam is a just religion, your version of Islam on this issue is incorrect, women have rights and their feelings must be taken into account, they are mothers - a broken women/mother is not justice - children will ultimately suffer too.
I took a lot of time to read the comments coming from both sides and the neutral side, no doubt we need a episode of the brothers and the sisters coming together to clarify. To tell the youth that polygamy is permissible and how to go about it. I’m hearing about brothers mistreating 1st or 2nd wife, abusing them and neglecting them. These matters should be discussed, polygamy should not be practiced by those who are incapable of love and respect!!! We need to get this important message out there brothers and sisters 💯
How about you don’t do it since it can destroy your previous or first marriage. We are living in a difficult world with so much to deal with anyways. What’s wrong with sacrificing for your family at hand since this life isn’t paradise and we will not find complete satisfaction here? Just because you are allowed to do something, don’t mean you should. Finally, if the husband does get married, then Islam has given the wife a choice too. So stop being hypocritical brothers. Your being very selfish here!
Agreed!!!
The thing is that it's discouraged except in very few cases, but men like to act as if it's their duty and they have to do it to "please" God
@@yousraammachi9087 exactly!!
@Kordei - they have no idea what they're singing up for it's mentally and physically draining. Sadly they're only thinking about the sex part.
@Kordei - sign of the times because men are being polygamous 😂😂😂 May Allah guide you
The biggest problem in modern days polygamy is a lack of iman in both males and females. You can’t build a successful polygamy marriage without all parties having strong iman. Otherwise men won’t be just with wives, wives will be always jealous of each other and many many other problems. Fix your relationship with Allah first and everything else will become better.
I watched from beginning to end! Alhamdulillah my attention span is getting better
We need to protect these brothers at all costs, may Allah keep you brothers firm 🤲🏾
yes 100% and jazakAllahhukhair
We need to protect the straw man because straw is very flammable
@@Ibrah-ibrah excellent.
The best way to do polygamy is be transparent about your intentions for it before marriage, Ali. And when you see a woman you want to marry, as a courtesy, communicate & discuss with your first wife so she’s emotionally ready. That’s all those sisters are saying but you guys are attacking them for their word usage & accusing them of flirting with kufr. Not everything they said I agree with.
Hijab, you’re saying a secret marriage is not wrong? That she can’t tell her family or anyone else? Do you realize women are human beings? Not robot playthings?
We must all practice sabr…both men & women. So why don’t most men have sabr when their wives are struggling with sharing the husband? Prophet Muhammad ﷺ had sabr and counseled his ﷺ wives.
You’re telling women to have sabr then a man should have sabr in either not marrying or cheating with other women. Or atleast have sabr when your wives may be emotionally struggling.
Also, instead of shaming women for having emotions and being human, in a nice manner, teach us on how our Mother’s dealt with their emotions. Because they had it harder than us.
Do work on your arrogance though Muhammad. You’re acting like Allah ﷻ didn’t give women ANY rights & THAT is extremely troubling.
We have khulla. If a woman is selfish for putting her relationship with Allah ﷻ before her husband, then she’s selfish. Her accountability is with Allah ﷻ , not you
Respectfully, if you have a problem with secret marriage then your problem is not with Hijab. The rulings of Allah swt are set. Please do not fall for the same mistake the sisters did in the video.
@@agp4580 is it just for a woman to not be able to publicly claim her husband or have her rights fulfilled.
@@omowhanre I'm not knowledgeable enough to answer that question from an Islamic standpoint
they missed the whole point, the "horror movie" the girls were describing was a polygamous marriage that wasn't done correctly please listen better and don't afraid to actually have empathy and compassion for women who cannot live to these lifestyles, just because it's halal means that it's wajib upon them to do it and submit to it
Everytime he says "sister you're saying this coz of something that may happened in your past so you're taking our your bitterness on ummah" or "I don't know what you're going through in your life" as though people who had gone through bad times have faulty biased judgements. Or to say that they lose their ability to think and speak logically. This is another level of traumatizing a person. This is such a cruel and animalistic mentality
💯 and a prime example of gaslighting
They're feminist indoctrinated secularised women clearly, using their own subjective "feelings" so Allaah has legislated trauma, spiritual abuse and Allaah shouldn't have divinely instituted poligyny.
They're only talking from a purely emotive, jealous, feminist western propaganda against Islam, they're showing they have no understanding of Islam at all, women jump on this misandrist nonsense and don't reflect if they're even on the required spiritual levels and objectives of Islam as a wife/mother.
They're products of a completely failed Islamic & cultural upbringing and undeniably pushing feminism behind the hijaab, their fathers if Muslim should be ashamed, boycotted & shunned, nobody should EVER marry females like this & they're too many of them in Muslim communities, who cleverly wording their hatred for Islam as supposedly reasoned points.
& the whole time she's pushing ignorance and spiritual abuse against Allaah's legislation that the enemies of Islam applaud & use to attack the Islam through these kinds of secularised "sisters" who get all this garbage from feminist websites, books and feminist indoctrination in the western education system and then spew this as so called Islamic concerns.
The comments sections and those who thumbs up those garbage comments show how extremely unislamic these so "sisters" are, these comments are applauded by the disbelievers and enemies of Islam, well done feminists who are most unislamic than Islamic...💯
They're feminist indoctrinated secularised women clearly, using their own subjective "feelings" so Allaah has legislated trauma, spiritual abuse and Allaah shouldn't have divinely instituted poligyny.
They're only talking from a purely emotive, jealous, feminist western propaganda against Islam, they're showing they have no understanding of Islam at all, women jump on this misandrist nonsense and don't reflect if they're even on the required spiritual levels and objectives of Islam as a wife/mother.
They're products of a completely failed Islamic & cultural upbringing and undeniably pushing feminism behind the hijaab, their fathers if Muslim should be ashamed, boycotted & shunned, nobody should EVER marry females like this & they're too many of them in Muslim communities, who cleverly wording their hatred for Islam as supposedly reasoned points.
& the whole time she's pushing ignorance and spiritual abuse against Allaah's legislation that the enemies of Islam applaud & use to attack the Islam through these kinds of secularised "sisters" who get all this garbage from feminist websites, books and feminist indoctrination in the western education system and then spew this as so called Islamic concerns.
The comments sections and those who thumbs up those garbage comments show how extremely unislamic these so "sisters" are, these comments are applauded by the disbelievers and enemies of Islam, well done feminists who are most unislamic than Islamic...💯
Your take on responding to the sisters discussion on polygamy was quite confusing.
The sisters are talking about a specific issue- an issue which is prevalent amongst polygamous marriages, which is the husband failing to handle the situation in a responsible and a valuable way in the eyes of Allah and in return hurting and dehumanising his wife in this process. Yes, indeed, in the quran, it is not stated that a man must notify his wife, but what is stated in the Quran is truthfulness, respect and honouring your spouse, and by not telling your first wife that you are married to second is going against all the things islam promotes and obliges, and the man is breaking the family. Why not a man make his intent clear from beginning? In prophet times it was common to practice polygny so women expected it.. But these time it's not common, so a man must take care of his wife's heart and emotions when considering polygny because of the times we live in.
Let's not forget about the prophet's Marriage to Khadijah for 25 years. Please do not attempt to belittle and humiliate men and women who enjoy and choose to stay in monogamous marriage.
Indeed polygny is so beneficial for many women, and this is the sole purpose of it. If the purpose of it was for mens sexual desire and to accommodate mens sexual nature, Allah would not have made marrying multiple women so difficult for men and put rulings.
Islam didn't invent polygny, it only limited it for justice and fair treatment.
And monogamy is a practice that the prophet carried out for 25 years.
Instead you should address how a man should treat a wife during the polygny phase. The purpose of it. The value behind it for women. And try not to miss out the part where prophet was monogamous for 25 years.
Very unfortunate that a lot of people follow you and you completly handled this in a poor manner.
Yeh, they come across as incredibly insensitive, mocking women for their emotions in some instances and insinuate women have toxic reactions... they miss the mark completely. Insensitive, zero compassion.
Not really, they made polygamy out to be terrible and traumatic, they even described as "spiritual abuse". If there's one word that has been absolutely rpd and lost its value, it's the word abuse by fmnsts women.
They could have also talked about it in a positive manner. They won't even do that, they tell women are not able to be married, to not accept it as it devaluates her, even though she still has rights to mahr, a home, kids, and protection. Polygamy is something honorable, not something what you modern women see as pimping.
@@nossssssssssssssheen That's why women should not talk about men's rights or issues. They don't understand it.
@@blueflame3531 Some women actually enjoy and want polygny but most women don't, and that's okay and it's not obligatory for men to do it or for women to stay in that marriage or to accept it.
Monogomy is something practiced by the prophet, so if a woman would prefer a monogamous marriage, you know just like the sunnah that many men tend to forget, it's absolutely fine and most recommended in order to stay away from sinning. But what is not fine, and what these women are attempting to address but didn't communicate it in a clear way, is the abuse most women experience from unfit and irresponsible Muslim men who marry a second wife for nothing but sexual purposes. If sexual desire is the only reason for a second marriage, then this is not the sunnah of the prophet. The prophet married for the unity of people and political reasons after the death of his first wife in a monogamous marriage. Men abusing polygny to fulfill their whims and desires and in the process fail to be just to the wives, these problems must be addressed and that's what these women are attempting to say.
“There is no compulsion in religion” [al-Baqarah 2:256]... Gaslighting and Manipulating women into polygamy marriages!!!. Polygamy marriages are corruption...
"""And you will never be able to be equal between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From Quran surah Nisa"""... Muslim ummah keep telling others don't follow your desires, women are desires!. But desires can be very powerful. They can hold sway over the mind and lead a person away from reality. When a person follows desires and submits to them, without giving consideration to the guidance received from God, he goes astray. Following of desires is directly linked to misguidance.
To understand the effect of desire it is important to analyze what desire does to human intelligence. It puts a curtain over the eyes of the mind. It makes a person so attached to its target that reality is overlooked. The conditions to understand reality include an objectivity to it. It means acceptance of reality whether palatable or bitter, whether it is for personal gain or against it. These conditions are not in line with the dictates of desire.
In another verse Almighty Allah puts forth this truth in even stronger terms. He calls desire the god of some human beings. He says: Have you seen him who has taken his desire to be his god? (Q 25:43). Such a god has been condemned in the strongest terms in Hadith. The Prophet (s) has said: There is no god under the sky that has been worshipped other than Allah that is worse than the desire. (Taken from Tafsīr Namūne). No other deity is as despicable as the human being’s own desire.
Imam al-Sādiq (a) says: Be apprehensive of your desires in the same way as you are apprehensive of your enemies. For there is no greater enemy for human beings than their own desires and what their tongues reap (Al-Kulaynī, al-Kāfī, 2: 336.)
Following of desires is often not recognized for the lowly quality it is. It can be masqueraded as freedom, having fun, being with the masses, etc. It clads a veil over the person as well as others who are exposed to him. Only those who have insight and reflect on reality are able to see through it.
This verse reminds us of the danger!
Polygamy marriages come under desires!Polygamy marriages are corruption...
Destroying the frist marriages!.
Jabir reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Satan places his throne over the water and he sends out his troops. The closest to him in rank are the greatest at causing tribulations. One of them says: I have done this and this. Satan says: You have done nothing. Another one says: I did not leave this man alone until I separated him from his wife. Satan embraces him and he says: You have done well.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2813
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim
"""And you will never be able to be equal between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From Quran surah Nisa"""... Muslim ummah keep telling others don't follow your desires, women are desires!. But desires can be very powerful. They can hold sway over the mind and lead a person away from reality. When a person follows desires and submits to them, without giving consideration to the guidance received from God, he goes astray. Following of desires is directly linked to misguidance.
To understand the effect of desire it is important to analyze what desire does to human intelligence. It puts a curtain over the eyes of the mind. It makes a person so attached to its target that reality is overlooked. The conditions to understand reality include an objectivity to it. It means acceptance of reality whether palatable or bitter, whether it is for personal gain or against it. These conditions are not in line with the dictates of desire.
In another verse Almighty Allah puts forth this truth in even stronger terms. He calls desire the god of some human beings. He says: Have you seen him who has taken his desire to be his god? (Q 25:43). Such a god has been condemned in the strongest terms in Hadith. The Prophet (s) has said: There is no god under the sky that has been worshipped other than Allah that is worse than the desire. (Taken from Tafsīr Namūne). No other deity is as despicable as the human being’s own desire.
Imam al-Sādiq (a) says: Be apprehensive of your desires in the same way as you are apprehensive of your enemies. For there is no greater enemy for human beings than their own desires and what their tongues reap (Al-Kulaynī, al-Kāfī, 2: 336.)
Following of desires is often not recognized for the lowly quality it is. It can be masqueraded as freedom, having fun, being with the masses, etc. It clads a veil over the person as well as others who are exposed to him. Only those who have insight and reflect on reality are able to see through it.
This verse reminds us of the danger!
Polygamy marriages come under desires!
You will never ever force us women to remain in a polygamous relationship if we refuse. We will leave and you can’t stop us.
And it’s not mandatory in Quran so because it’s not mandatory thank God . In general a man has a choice to have and be only with one wife and men are not forced to have more then one wife.we women should not be indoctrinated and brainwashed into think this this ok because in Quran it’s not mandatory.
@themadkalimurjiasecularist6683women can also marry again what drugs are you on?
Pls don't marry any man u'll destroy him
Not every man is polygompus, many are I agree but not all. Polygamy was not addressed clearly at any other religion except Islam because Arabs were known for their polygamy generally. Adultry was very common among Arabs at that time & were very much sex oriented to the point at they feared having daughters because they had an audacity to be raped !!
*"...And it could be that you dislike something, when it is good for you, and it could be that you like something when it is bad for you.* Allah knows and you do not know." Quran 2:216
Disliking something isnt an issue, not submitting to Allahs law is an issue.
Is it actually allowed to take a 2nd wife without asking the first one or do u seek permission to do so? I know polygamy is allowed but I'm doubtful about this.
@@mazenahmad8658 It is not necessary for the husband to seek permission from the first wife for his second marriage to be considered valid and correct. However, it is preferable to consult her regarding the issue to avoid upsetting her. (Raddul Muhtar p.138 v.4)
Without permission and consultation it's not wise since it can lead to end of the first marriage so walk carefully.
@@mazenahmad8658 If the wife wants to lay a condition to restrict polygamy for the husband she must put it in the marriage contract so then in some madhab that would be binding for him not to marry again.
@@MohammadQasim what is Raddul Muhtar?? Is it authentic, i only know that it says if u can't do justice between them, marry only one, so if u don't take permission, how will u deal justly between them
@@MohammadQasim Is the woman informed at the time of marriage that she may put this clause? What if there is a convert woman who didn't know about this and did not put the clause, will she have to be ok with her husband taking multiple wives?
Calm down, boys. Can't you speak slowly and nicely? What they're saying is that ask your wife first prior to doing that. They have heart and they also have opinion. I have listened their whole conversation and really feel for them. They were not there to say polygamy is haram. They had complained about how it misused.
Is that all you got from this video?
Unfortunately clowns like you have to exit don't they
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SoyBo-- nevermind
رفقا بالقوارير 💔
Type into UA-cam: ‘Polygamy // Season 3 Episode 9 | Honest Tea Talk’. Pinned under the video from YEARS AGO reads a message from the sisters that categorically state that they’re not against polygamy but are against when it is done wrong by some men!
I’m not saying all men are intentional when inflicting harm on their wives in this case, but some are and those brothers need to be called out! As for the ignorant, their needs to be mass training for them on how to treat their wife sensitively when she comes to ‘finding’ out about a wife, family and life she didn’t know her husband was leading cuz that will be traumatising for her and a man needs to own that.
This why so many imams in the US will not do a nikah for polygyny and almost all require a marriage license. Fun fact.. polygyny is also illegal in Turkey.
no they're against it and are dancing around the issue by talking about some men
Ali dawah mentioned they stated they are not completely against polygamy in the beginning watch the video. Obviously you cannot clear cut go against an Islamic practice but the implications of what she's implying leads one to think very negatively of polygamy.
But she’s discussing the implications of when it is DONE wrong though, not about polygamy in general.
@@sarahsiddiqui8016 you need to be fair and mention successful case studies and how it's applicable and benefits etc not paint a very negative one sided picture based upon emotions and anecdotes that's fine if the purpose of this video is to outline some issues about abusive men that practice polygamy but you need to show both sides not give ammunition to fire from one side without explaining the contrary. The way sumaya is speaking and the language used is very dangerous to young women watching if anything they are putting fuel on the fire by spewing anti polygamous language if that's not the case then they need to simply be consistent and cover both sides She indirectly dismisses what Islam and scholars say and doesn't even attempt to address the issue fundamentally for muslims or even historically which is also very dangerous, basically leaving the matter entirely to the individual and nafs regardless of Islamic position. I challenge you to find these sisters talking in any of their other videos in the same way about the contrary. This is the point being outlined.
In my view is not feminism, it is about treating wifes equally. Men abuse this to no end. First of all, if you cannot follow the rules properly of treating all wives equally or have enough financial ability to treat all well then you are not prepared to be a husband. If you cannot see how this hurts the wife and the children. Of course, the tone is problematic for you guys (she mentions not to be executed properly) it is traumatic when your husband, your team partner in marriage and life commits adultery. It is betrayal. They are not talking in my opinion of men and women in a relationship that agreed to polygamy and everything has been going well. They are talking about younger men that get married and then decided to cheat non stop using the "i can have up to 4 wives, " response and then these women which by the way are paying all the bills while these young men flirt with other women and go coffee shop to coffee shop picking up numbers, these women struggle between loving this men and staying or leaving this relationship. Your example is not comparable at all by the way and I love these women's program. WHAT ABOUT THE RIGHTS OF THE FIRST WIFE???
As a Muslim woman a fully support "Polygamy " however I would never participate in a Polygamy marriage, Because in Islam the men and women are both free to agree or disagree.
Regardless of how you feel your husband can still marry a second wife there is no agree to disagree.
@@bestboy619 can*
@@logix3172 edited thanks for telling me
@@bestboy619 habibi ❤️
@@bestboy619 No you can place it in the contract that he cannot marry a second wife
I believe the wisdom behind polygamy it's very important, which taking care of many Muslims women's & create families! Protect muslim women's from any deviation! Also it's very vital to keep Muslims men's away doing Haram...
That first woman seems so hurt, like she’s speaking from experience. “Why is this breaking me” maybe the way you were raised has something to do with it?
She's somalian am sure she had huge problems in the past
They are a Muslim revert support group. Everyday they are speaking with women who have been abused by men. It has caused them to develop emotional trauma.
@@alvinman8 you even replied to someone else saying African marriages are worse than Asian/Arab ones. Why are you so obsessed with Africa. If you need to talk about some place else to make your country seem better that means you really don’t have anything to offer. Your not better than Africa. Is that what helps you live in this world, fighting with other minorities to get acceptance from others🥺how sad. Learn to love yourself and maybe you’ll stop projecting your insecurities
@@imizlefarari5294 😂😂😂I'm Africa by the way....so am not foolish by telling the truth
@@alvinman8 your name doesn’t sound very African🤔
Compassion, brother! You need compassion. That was how our prophet was.