Fast Setting Joint Compound Tips Your Drywaller Doesn't Know

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  • I'm going to give you about 17 tips and tricks to do with Fast Setting drywall Joint Compound, or Hot Mud, and I bet most drywallers don't know all of them, & will pick up a tip or 2.
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  • @ThatKiltedGuyDIY
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  • @mathman0101
    @mathman0101 Рік тому +9

    Thanks for all your videos you, Vancouver carpenter and drywall shorty are the only 3 experts I learn from you are super detailed and I really believe if you can’t get on the tools as much you should be teaching your experience is amazing.

  • @SuperUncleRyan
    @SuperUncleRyan Рік тому +13

    I would suggest using Durabond any time you are are finishing over an odd surface, like concrete, block, wood, painted walls, ect. But only for the bed coat. I would also prefer it for all prefilling but like he said the other hot mud will work okay for that. Durabond has a lot more glue in it that makes it much better for such things. Bed coat only though. You don't want to have to sand that stuff. You'd be amazed at what you can do with some Durabond and fiberglass mesh. It really help when the top paper has been pulled off of some drywall, like when removing wallpaper.

    • @inkstain7193
      @inkstain7193 Рік тому +1

      Yep durabond is way better for prefill and bed coat. I use it when I’m doing plaster work.

    • @edwardconley5250
      @edwardconley5250 3 місяці тому

      @@SuperUncleRyan Thanks for that info. I'm getting ready to tie some new drywall into old plaster, and I was wondering which product was better for that purpose.

  • @andrewcarr2431
    @andrewcarr2431 Рік тому +4

    DIY Drywaller here. Hot mud is great once you learn how and when to use it. All the stuff you mentioned I too have experienced. You produce great content from your years of experience.

  • @chipmiller9074
    @chipmiller9074 Рік тому +4

    You are very right about the dirty water will change the set-up time I have told several people this and they don't seem to understand

  • @jdawes4403
    @jdawes4403 Рік тому +3

    I love durabond for plaster wall repairs or when i tie drywall to old plaster. But, i only use it deep and never as finish mud. Bob P taught me that trick.

  • @georgemacdonald5282
    @georgemacdonald5282 Рік тому +2

    Old kilti is my favourite plus he has a corvette sign on his wall so it shows that he's got great taste, keep up the good work old kilters.

  • @paullucas8721
    @paullucas8721 Рік тому +3

    I love mesh tape's low profile but it's vey helpful to hear that hot mud is essential for application.

    • @flagmichael
      @flagmichael Рік тому

      Guy must have mentioned that before but I missed it.

  • @mitchellpurelife
    @mitchellpurelife Рік тому +3

    Great video Guy. Your explanations are right on the money. I agree with everything you said! Rock on...

    • @ThatKiltedGuyDIY
      @ThatKiltedGuyDIY  Рік тому +2

      Much appreciated!

    • @DCtaping
      @DCtaping Рік тому +1

      Except for pouring it into the sink 🤣. What i do when I use the sh*t is i treat it like sh*t and pour it into toilet bowl but while it's still soft just past the point of being workable and don't flush more than an average amount of sh*t.😆😂 then when you're done emptying your "butt" I mean bucket flush few more times...🤫👌🤣🇨🇦.
      Or option 2 is to clean quick setting compound to the bottom of your bucket and WALK AWAY. Then the next day or maayyyyybbe 2 to 3 times the number on the bag, bring outside and give a few light taps on the bottom of the pale while up side down and plop goes the weezel.😂🤣👌👍😎👍🇨🇦🇨🇦. I seen a tile guy do this so I thought I'd give it a try just to see and by god it worked pretty good actually didn't even need to really clean the pale. Hey, there you go you should try those two methods on a video one day🤔😏👌👍🇨🇦 just noooo pooping plz lmao....🤣🤣👍

  • @chipmiller9074
    @chipmiller9074 Рік тому +8

    I always wash my tools outside never using customers thinks because potential blame for clogging toilet or sink is not my wishes

    • @Dave-nm3xc
      @Dave-nm3xc Рік тому

      That's smart. I do the same in a customers home.

    • @Rembo318
      @Rembo318 2 місяці тому

      Sorry friend…it must be hell having a lisp so bad that it even carries over to your NON-verbal communications! Poor fella! Chin up tho buddy get out there and kick today’s ath!
      😂😂
      Jkjk my smartass just couldnt pass that one up (if ya still dont get it..its the “think” instead of sink typo) lol
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  • @demontekdigital
    @demontekdigital Рік тому +3

    I used Easy Sand 45 for the first time a few weeks ago, and I was a bit scared I was gonna screw it up. I had to prefill some wall to ceiling corner joints because the original installers didn't take the drywall to the edge on the ceiling, and left a 1/2 inch gap. Not sure if that's common practice, or not, but I prefilled so my tape had something to adhere to just in case. I'm glad you mentioned the P-trap drainage issue too because I had to poor the dirty water in the sink because it was either that, or dig a hole, and bury it in the backyard, lol.

    • @flagmichael
      @flagmichael Рік тому

      The first time I bought hot mud I was clueless. I still have most of a sack of 5 minute mud and have no idea where I will use it now.

  • @Dave-nm3xc
    @Dave-nm3xc Рік тому +5

    Pro approved! This guy knows what hes talking about.

  • @ralexlu
    @ralexlu Рік тому +2

    Thanks for tips. I appreciate you!

  • @Mr1fingersalute
    @Mr1fingersalute 11 місяців тому +1

    Great content as always!
    I’m far from a pro and have experienced many of the problems you just described over the past couple months of renovating🤦🏻‍♂️…..and now I know why lol

  • @G.I.JeffsWorkbench
    @G.I.JeffsWorkbench 8 місяців тому

    Great review of the must dos. Thank you. This was ideal timing for me. I’m a tradesman, but not a drywaller. This refresher should lead to better results on this week’s repair projects.

  • @k.b.woodworker3250
    @k.b.woodworker3250 2 місяці тому

    Great videos! Thank you. Gives me a boost to start drywalling a closet.

  • @TedBruckner
    @TedBruckner 2 місяці тому

    . Thank you! You last tip about flushing lots of water thru the water trap, inspired me to use a paint strainer mesh bag in some sinks' drain hole to be a filter, as well.

  • @Archtops
    @Archtops 6 місяців тому

    I’m replacing a rusted corner bead and your tips have really helped. Liked and Subscribed!

  • @glennbrown9178
    @glennbrown9178 11 місяців тому

    Lots of quality information and user tips.

  • @henryayala9657
    @henryayala9657 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the tips! I always use hot water. It seems to help it mix better and faster at the same time not reduce working time.

  • @stephanielafever7680
    @stephanielafever7680 11 місяців тому +2

    The pros make it look so easy 😭look how smooth and easy it goes on. No uneven spots no lines.

  • @Joetime90
    @Joetime90 Рік тому +2

    I avoid using hot mud when I can as a DIYer. The 90/45/20 etc yeah, it sets up, but it's still best to let an all day cure (especially for prefilling, it's great for that). There's not much I need done that fast as I'm not a contractor.
    I've used all purpose over mesh just fine, but I can see why hot mud is best for mesh. It's rock hard when applied properly. Basically, patches and pre filling is it's best use for a home DIYer.
    Also Easy Sand 😂 , it's a bear to sand.

  • @mikerichter1694
    @mikerichter1694 Місяць тому

    Guy... Check out the additives made by Muddskip. The Level 5 and Basecoat Powders, when added to regular drywall mud will cause it to firm up in about 15 minutes to an hour. So you can apply another coat without waiting for it to completely dry. Also you. have a 24hr window where the material can be misted with water and reworked to smooth out and remove bubbles. The ability to rework the material would be most helpful when working over painted surfaces.

  • @BPR316
    @BPR316 Рік тому

    solid points. I used water from a bucket i cleaned tools in to mix a batch and that stuff went off!.

  • @postpandemicsurvival3701
    @postpandemicsurvival3701 6 місяців тому +1

    In Louisiana, 20 minute mud is more like 10-15 minute mud. Hot temperatures speed up setting/working times

  • @markoshun
    @markoshun Рік тому

    I learned this first from tiling thinset that also sets up under water. First I scrape what I can into garbage and then use a bucket of water and brush to wash up. You can pour off the water once solids have settled. There's always a sizable solid mass at the bottom that would've been down somebody's drain.

  • @brittharms978
    @brittharms978 Рік тому +2

    The Bob Ross of drywall A++++++

  • @chriscodrington5464
    @chriscodrington5464 2 місяці тому

    strictly top notch advice !

  • @mikejustice1196
    @mikejustice1196 29 днів тому

    What video do you offer that discusses pin holes after the mud dries on the wall, the before and after effect.
    Thanks

  • @tommythiel9268
    @tommythiel9268 Рік тому +1

    I love the vevor skimming blades

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  • @mathman0101
    @mathman0101 Рік тому

    I do swear by Durabond90 for prefill as a bed for taping mud to avoid tape shrinkage in the center. It’s also good for larger variations - occasionally I have had to do use a thinner drywall patch as it was the only thing available it help build a strong surface layer to apply a cover and skim coat. I think you should do another whole series on drywall stains and moisture meter and primers and paint to fix annoying temporary water leaks…

  • @vinceferraccioli4661
    @vinceferraccioli4661 Рік тому

    I think it's incredible too on the city you're working and the chemicals they're using in their water with all the chloridean seems to make a difference I noticed that when I was doing a tile job and my mix for my grout Was weird Never had that before Was doing a job out of town and their water had high chlorine content

  • @Shanonmcnab576
    @Shanonmcnab576 4 місяці тому +1

    Hot mud or quick set is a bitch to sand if it’s too thick. I only use it for patch work. I’ve always been a firm believer of the best quality is using Synko taping, all purpose and their finishing compounds . Synko’s finishing mud is like a glass like smooth finish. There’s a reason Synko makes it.

  • @cpoul
    @cpoul Місяць тому

    If it hardens via chemical reaction, what does a painted wall have to do with anything?

  • @transgreaser
    @transgreaser Рік тому +2

    You rock, sir. (Pun intended 😅) Thank you for sharing your wisdom. Respect🫡

  • @danschenck9442
    @danschenck9442 5 місяців тому

    DId 20 minute mud mixed up with warm water.. it kick in few minutes.. mad it to consistence of peanut butter.. started applying to wall it became unuse able. i had to scrape off. and used regular mud. in 5 gallon bucket.. I then used heat gun to dry reg mud.
    . i tried experiementused auto body filler. Since a autobody guy. had better luck. in 20 minutes of autobody filler dried. i used joint compound over it.. worked great.. use body filler over mesh tape . holds great... how feel about fibermesh tape with joint compound.?

  • @DavidMcFarlane-u3h
    @DavidMcFarlane-u3h 11 місяців тому

    great tips thank you!

  • @marksavino2580
    @marksavino2580 3 місяці тому

    Good video

  • @floydlacroix6957
    @floydlacroix6957 Рік тому

    Durabond also ware’s your knives faster it seems to pit the edge also

  • @azintrepid1
    @azintrepid1 9 місяців тому

    thank you!

  • @morokeiboethia6749
    @morokeiboethia6749 Рік тому

    I think I and a lot of other people had the misconception that hot mud reaches its 100% dry point faster, but it does not. It only stiffens up faster and the entire point behind that is so you can put another coat of mud on top of the hot mud sooner than you can the other kinds of mud. I originally thought that since it was setting up sooner then it would also be dry sooner and that you could sand it a lot sooner than you can other muds but thats not true. It's made so you can add another coat of mud on top of it sooner but when it comes to sanding it has to be 100% dry and it does not 100% dry faster than other muds. Its right at the same amount of time to completely dry as other mud types.

    • @ThatKiltedGuyDIY
      @ThatKiltedGuyDIY  Рік тому +4

      You are correct except there is one other major reason for it setting up besides being able to recoat it quickly. And that is because by setting up it stops the shrinkage. Drywall mud shrinks because of the evaporation of the water but since this sets up before it dries it stops the shrinkage. It probably shrinks less than 5% compared to about 35% for regular joint compound.

    • @morokeiboethia6749
      @morokeiboethia6749 Рік тому

      @@ThatKiltedGuyDIY Wow I didnt realize it was that low of shrinkage (5%). Learn something new every day. As for the regular all purpose, that explains why so many times I come in the next day and the joints that I swore were complete are all showing the bulge of the tape again. I thought I was going blind or crazy but now that explains it. I'm really glad I've tried out different muds now b/c now i know the situations to use them in and that saves sooo much time and headache when you use the right mud for the occasion. And honestly I learned most of it right here on this channel! Merica!

  • @joeuranga3434
    @joeuranga3434 5 місяців тому

    Mud whisper ~ you ROCK

  • @flagmichael
    @flagmichael Рік тому +2

    One more tip especially for us duffers: wear old clothes! I've been lazy and done some mudding - little spots, not whole walls - with street clothes on. Hey, if I get it on my clothes or shoes it will wash right out! Hot mud won't wash right out unless it is caught early.
    For the same reason, a cap of some sort is a great idea. Getting a blob of hot mud dried in our hair is less than ideal. Just sayin'.

  • @paulpalmer5264
    @paulpalmer5264 Рік тому

    Good job all excellent

  • @johnjohn-ne8fw
    @johnjohn-ne8fw 10 місяців тому

    Smart tips 👍

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    @belizekaviar1263 Рік тому

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  • @TheLeelaDog
    @TheLeelaDog Рік тому

    I'm trying to fix 8'x11' painted wall, last owners seemed to have practiced texture on it and then paint peeled in places. I was going to scrape/sand, prime with zinsser 123, easy sand 45, then prime again and paint. Missing or wrong steps? I'm so lost even after watching so many videos.

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  • @radinsyah1574
    @radinsyah1574 Рік тому

    I’ve a problem where the hot mud sets up way too quickly and reduce my working time tremendously. The bag states 20 minutes or so, but after just about 5 minutes, my hotmud is no longer in a working consistency. What am I doing weong? Am already using clean water, etc and mix it by hand using the instructions’ ratio.

    • @ThatKiltedGuyDIY
      @ThatKiltedGuyDIY  Рік тому +1

      Mix only until slightly smooth. If you try to mix till all the lumps are gone, you'll overmix and it sets up faster. Otherwise, not sure. Make sure you follow all guidelines in this video.

  • @gertrude.giuseppe
    @gertrude.giuseppe 9 місяців тому

    Great advice, but don’t wash mud down the sink period. It’s bad for plumbing and the sewer or septic. Find a discreet area of the yard where you can wash your tools outside

  • @yinglouie9663
    @yinglouie9663 Рік тому

    Not a fan but l know you need it. Thanks for telling me not to dump down the drain without lots of water.

  • @lyles253
    @lyles253 8 місяців тому

    Hot water doesn’t make much difference but hot air does

  • @othername1000
    @othername1000 9 місяців тому

    I think easy sand 5 is slower than it used to be.

  • @joshuamarkowski8483
    @joshuamarkowski8483 Рік тому

    I never hear anything about if you have to sand 45 min mud before you put regular joint compound over it

  • @ragingrevenge1
    @ragingrevenge1 6 місяців тому

    I thought you were going to mix up some hot mud with all purpose and show me a trick 😂

  • @randykephart3661
    @randykephart3661 7 місяців тому +1

    Dirty water helps when your in a hurry

  • @mikejustice1196
    @mikejustice1196 29 днів тому

    Why does this stuff burn my eyes?
    I Remember we use to like to smell the texture

  • @tammyvinas2120
    @tammyvinas2120 Рік тому

  • @PrettyDopeKitty3
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  • @justice4all32
    @justice4all32 4 місяці тому

    wipe off your tools before washing it off

  • @JtotheRizzo
    @JtotheRizzo 6 місяців тому

    Any tips for drying joint compound in very humid temperatures? I skim coated a already painted ceiling over 2 weeks ago and thought it was fully cured. To my surprise, after applying my first coat of primer, I noticed the primer was peeling off as I was painting it. The joint compound underneath felt moist to the touch. Had been running a high powered fan but still feels moist and the primer won't adhere. 🫤

    • @ThatKiltedGuyDIY
      @ThatKiltedGuyDIY  5 місяців тому

      The only tips are to lower the humidity, raise the temperature, and increase the airflow. In some cases you may have to rent a dehumidifier

  • @Trekgalaxi
    @Trekgalaxi 3 місяці тому +1

    What grit of sandpaper are you using?