CB500X vs Tenere 700 - should I swap my Honda for the Yamaha? [QuickTest#2]
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- Опубліковано 2 гру 2019
- A review of the Yamaha Ténéré after 6 months with the CB500X. How does it stack up against my bike and should I consider trading my Honda in?
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Now that's some honest consumer advice. A lots of information, no faffing about and clear opinions. Thank's man, good work.
Thanks, Lorenzo, much appreciated comment. Ride safe😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Loved the video.. I'm curious about the 6 speed in the Honda verses the 5 in the Tenere. Were you shifting more often in the Honda because the gears were closer together?? Also which one revs less with lower Rpms on the highway at the same speed?? 👍
RocketMan will soon be the benchmark of what an honest motorcycle review should be. Unbiased and relatable. Well done!
Wow, high praise indeed. Thank you for your kind words. I do try to be as objective as I can, so it's nice to see others appreciate it :)
Rocket man
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Yes i agree
Nice and calm voice doing a review of the Yamaha. No explosions or loud music needed. Well done, sir
Thanks for your kind words. Glad you like the format I went with (after much deliberation). Ride safe :)
@@RocketMan_Moto yeah, fuck reviews that have music
I was waiting for someone to make a video on this bike, and you've done it brilliantly. Keep on the good work R Man, we love these videos.
Many thanks for your kind words. It’s comments like yours that make all the work worthwhile 😊
"Aqquitted itself with aplomb" - ah, how sweet to have a review with class....and no distracting music. Applauding :)
Haha, thanks for that, Di. Particularly welcome, as a few weeks ago, someone commented that I was an idiot, because nobody used the word 'aplomb' any more :( Nice to know there are still those who appreciate words of more than one syllable :)
@@RocketMan_Moto If the "someone" was not an attractive, intelligent middle aged woman ... you can ignore the haha ;)
Clear accent, pleasant voice and a good review! And fortunately, no noisy background music! Thanks a lot.
Thank you :) Background music drives me insane!
Great comparison review! Appreciate your summary pros and cons, as well as the clear, relaxed presentation. keep 'em coming! Thx.
Thank you for taking the time to shoot, edit and post this. Very helpful as the Teneré is getting close to hitting our showroom floors here in the US. Nice work!
It's a great bike. One of the best I rode last year :)
Thanks for this thoughtful comparison. It's exactly the toss-up I'm considering right now with my 2017 CB500X.
I think you’ll be surprised by the Yamaha. I went into the test ride convinced I wasn’t going to like such an off-road oriented bike, but I really liked it. Ride safe 😊
I’d seriously consider the vstrom from Suzuki. The engines go for hundreds of thousands of miles.
Excellent, real world review without the melodrama & trite language of others. Really enjoyed your work. 👍
Thank you!. A clear and concise review. It seems every review of the T700 is very very positive. Currently waiting to see if we'll get it here in the Philippines.
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement, much appreciated :) I hope you do get the Ténéré, because it's a very good bike. Ride safe :)
It feels like your reading me a bedtime story... a very informative one.
Glad you enjoyed it!
That was probably the clearest and most meaningful T7 appraisal I've watched to date, and the CB500X benchmarking was extremely useful. T7s are as rare as hens' teeth in this part of the world but I now feel a test ride coming on ASAP. Thank you! 👍
Thanks for your kind words of encouragement, Keith. Much appreciated 😊
Thanks for the review. I like both of these bikes and your review helps confirm future purchases.
Thanks for taking the time to send your feedback, Travis. Much appreciated. Ride safe😊
I like the calm delivery of the well written scripts and the riding is sunny late morning, early afternoons usually.
Calm, Crafted and Sunny will have you at 300K Subs in no time Rocket Man! Cheers from Orlando, Florida!
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement :)
@@RocketMan_Moto You bet!
Outstanding review. I am currently considering a 2020 CB500X but the T700 is rapidly coming into my radar. Thanks for a great review.
Thanks for that, Michael. I have ended up ordering the new BMW F900XR because it’s more road-oriented, but the Ténéré is a great bike if you’re looking to do some off road. Certainly better than the CB500X.
Truly a great review for an everyman rider like myself. Superbly executed review. I have an FJR1300, I'm considering down the road picking up an ADV as I have some buddies that ride adv and I live in Oregon with plenty of great terrain. I was always a Honda man, but it looks like I'm going to solidly be a Yamaha man if I get one of these. :)
Great Channel! I’m seriously considering a Tenere. It was a long time coming but it seems all the development time was worthwhile. A future classic methinks, especially in white n red. Subbed 👍
Thanks for your kind words of encouragement, much appreciated. Yes, the Ténéré wasn’t available when I got my CB500X, but I would definitely choose it today over the Honda. Ride safe😊
Outstanding review. Clear, precise and gimmick-free.
Thank you, Byron, much appreciated :)
Not only I find your opinion on bikes clever and accurate but also I get to practice my british English listening skills. Absolutely brilliant :D
Haha, thanks for that. I'm glad you find my reviews useful, both linguistically and motorbikily :D
Just recently found your channel. Love your attitude & mannerisms. Best of luck to you, keep it going :). I am sure that in a few years time you can support your hobby with this channel as well.
Thank you :)
Glad you enjoyed the off-road experience on the test ride. Hope you find time to be doing some off-roading. The Yamaha seems like viable alternative to the CB500X. Ride safe...
What a brilliant, honest road test video. I too ride a CB500X (2016 in my case) which I love but will swap for something a bit bigger in the near future. V-Strom 650 is top of the pile at present but I do feel I should try the T7 as well. I've ridden over 3000 miles on the XT660 (way too tall for me) but clearly this is a different beast. Plenty of food for thought in your review. Thank you.
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement, Patrick😊 I try to be as objective as possible in my reviews. I went into this test ride convinced I wasn’t going to be that bothered about the Ténéré, not being particularly into off-road riding, but it came as a revelation. I haven’t yet tried the V-Strom, but have arranged a test of the KTM 790 next week, so you might want to look out for that video, too. Ride safe😊
Thank you RocketMan for the honest review, your review help me decide if i were to get CB500x or Tenere 700 , Thanks alot and keep that going :)
Thanks for your kind words of encouragement. Ride safe :)
Brother: You have a nice voice to listen to. You are informative well spoken and move along in the information not labouring any points. Good video. Thank you for your efforts. Oh yes, I was just reminded as I checked the comments; Thank you so much for not adding music. It is really calming to just listen to you talk and not to listen to music which could go either way depending on your tastes and the taste of the viewer. {In this case myself; but you get the point} Thank you again.
Thanks for your kind words. Glad you like the format. Ride safe :)
Dude you define my perception of a no-nonsense, down-to-earth and highly pragmatic review.
Thanks, György. It's comments like yours that make all the effort worthwhile. Ride safe :)
Very good and honest review. Very helpful for me. Cheers mate. John .
Thanks for your comment, John, much appreciated. Glad my video was of help. Ride safe :) P.S. the Ténéré is really good! Lol...
Makes me want to go to Portugal! Lovely video, thanks.
Thanks, Chris :)
Excellent review.....It's obvious that the inherent design and capabilities of the Yamaha Tenere 700 opened up a new vista for you to enjoy riding that bike.... I would consider this bike strongly and maybe modify the seat for a more custom fit for comfort...It's very good to be on bike that inspires your confidence and allows your experience to be upgraded and enjoyable.... I think that is why i would buy that bike myself.... You gave an excellent review and helped my decision...
Great review. I watched the review on CB500X. Liked it so much Iam going for a test ride. It will be the first bike I have tested. Hope it fits as I am 6'4''.
Thanks for your kind words of encouragement, Richard. Despite a few shortcomings, both the CB500X and the Tenere make perfect first biked. I am 6´3 and it’s fine for me, so you should be fine. Ride safe😊
For me, this was an excellent review. I have been interested in both of these bikes. This review has very clearly differentiated the +s and -s of both bikes. And, I think this review has helped me make a decision. It's the Yamaha for me. ;-)
Good for you! I bought my CB 8 months ago, when the Ténéré wasn't yet on the market. If I could go back in time, I would wait and go for the Yamaha, because it's the superior machine in just about every way. I wasn't expecting to like it, but I did. A revelation! Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts and enjoy your new toy :)
Great,unbiased review,well done.👍
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement, much appreciated :) Ride safe.
Great review. Your down to earth approach made it very enjoyable to watch.
Thanks, Tonny. I tried the KTM 790 today, so if you’re interested, the video should be up tomorrow. Ride safe😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Looking forward to that review. I have ridden both the T7 and the 790 - looking forward to hear how you like the Orange steed :)
@@RoamingViking just putting the finishing touches to the review now. Bit of a surprise in store...
@@RocketMan_Moto Not that surprising to me, as I came to more or less the same conclusion :)
Love your reviews and by good fortune you’re located in an incredibly beautiful part of the world. Ride well, ride safe.
Thanks😊
Thank you for good info! I think this might be my next bike
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement, much appreciated :) The Yamaha is a great bike, but since yesterday I'm also tempted by the new Triumph Tiger 900... a lot more expensive though! Ride safe :)
Great review, glad to hear a review that’s not through a helmet mic at highway speeds.
Thanks :)
Very nice review. I especially like it that you don’t do the talking while riding. The voice-over is so much better to understand than the talking of those other guys with the wind and the engine noise. Great. I’m very interested in this bike for our next big trip (Ushuaia to Canada). We used our BMW’s (GS for the wife and GSA for me) for a 26k km trip in Canada, Alaska and the lower 48 this year, but those are just so heavy off-road. So while the BMW’s will stay with us, for travelling in Europe, to ride elsewhere we are tempted to get these. We also rode 10k km in India and Nepal on Royal Enfields Himalayan. But I didn’t like it and it was too cramped for me at 6’4.
Thanks for your kind words. I'm glad you like the format. I did toy with the 'live' commentary as I rode the bike, but as you say, the audio quality is never as good, and I didn't want to be distracted my my talking while riding the bike. Anyway, your American adventure sounds fabulous, and way more hard-core than anything I am ever likely to attempt. 26km is quite an adventure in tiny Portugal, so 26,000 is almost inconceivable, lol. Ride safe :)
Thanks for the informative video, nicely done!
The 2022 Honda CB500X definitely has an improved front suspension. The stock Dunlop Trailmax Mixtour tires are pretty terrible off-road (I would guess they are 80/20 tires), which is why you found the Tenere 700 so much better off-road, since it's stock tires are Pirelli Scorpion Rally STRs - a 50/50 tire. With Motoz Tractionator GPS/Shinko E80x/Dunlop Trailmax Mission/Michelin Anakee Wild/Heidenau K60 Scout 50/50 tires, the CB500X feels way more planted and capable when off-roading.
The CB500X has enough power for me, anything more just translates to more speeding tickets :-) So, while the Tenere 700 sounds like a very nice bike, I'm content with my CB500X and with Honda reliability. Maybe I'll do a Rally Raid suspension upgrade in future, if and when Rally Raid makes one for the 2022 model year.
It will be interesting to see how Honda prices the upcoming Honda Transalp 750 XL. If it has a better stock suspension, it could trump the Tenere 700.
Thanks. Many people are eagerly awaiting the launch of the Transalp🤞
Don’t know how I missed this one thank you I’m picking up my new 2022 cb500x Wednesday hope all is good
I’m looking forward to trying the new CB500X. It looks very promising. Enjoy yours, Martin😊
Nice review and very honest. Thank you.
Thanks for your feedback😊
Thank you. I have narrowed my adventure bike down to these two and the T7 was in the first spot until I sat on it. I realized that the top of the clutch cover where the clutch lever protrudes from clutch cover case touches my shin. I am slightly taller than average and it's a complete deal breaker for me. Is this something you experienced? Your comment about this would be greatly appreciated.
I can’t say I noticed that, tbh. I’m 6’3. Ride safe😊
Did you try the Versys 650? Should be the one you mentioned right after the V-Strom!
Hello. Thanks for the very detailed review. I am mystified however why someone who says they were not interested in off-roading but in touring ever looked at this bike in the first place, since it is one of the more off-road orientated bikes on the adventure bike market.
Really appreciate your honest review
Thanks, Joshua :)
I have recently purchased a Suzuki Vstrom 650 and while I have been commuting mixed with some off road use and being new I haven't been riding it with fuel economy in mind, after my first 1000km I have achieved 26km per litre or 73.4mpg imp. I'm happy with that with it being comparable to my previous bike, a GW250. I find the Vstrom comfortable and being 5'11" I'm able to flat foot the bike which is a blessing with the strong gutsy winds I have experienced over the last few weeks.
Thanks for your feedback, Ian. It sounds as though you have the perfect bike for you. I need to try the V Strom some time. Ride safe :)
Portugal look so beautiful no wonder so many move and vacation there + had to look up slip/slipper assist clutch but now I think I get it
Yes, Portugal is lovely. Glad you realised what I meant by a slipper clutch. Ride safe😊
Como assim um youtuber desta qualidade aqui em Portugal e com este nível de inglês, adorei, e o conteúdo ainda melhor um review mesmo bom. Estou a pensar seriamente em comprar uma t7. Obrigado pela tua opinião, continua assim!!
Com esse nível de inglês? Pois ele é inglês.
are you sure thats Portugal? Looking like Germany somewhere :D :D
nice report, keep it up. I bought the 2019 CB500X last year and i am totally happy with it. Only thing i will change soon is the front 15teeth sprocket into a 16er
Hi, thanks for the review. What would be your thoughts on the AJP PR7? Yes the PR7 is more off road oriented but still, your thoughts please.
Many thanks.
Thanks for your feedback. Unfortunately, I haven't ridden the PR7 yet, so can't really help you. Ride safe :)
And no deafening guitars. Voiceover perfect. A hint of 'northern' English. Excellent.
Thanks, Duo. Born in Hull. Ride safe😊
RocketMan long words, too! Brilliant. I'm from Leicester, so half way there!
good review, I did some testing of this bike on/off road recently as well and I agree on most your assessments. Don''t agree though on nose dive, any bike with so long forks travel will do some diving but when you brake correctly it's not an issue and actually suspension on tenere is quite firm. Also I like engine characteristics and pipe sound a lot. It has power everywhere. Where yamaha missed the mark is fuel tank size, my old tenere has 23 liters and over 500km range...Wind protection is bad indeed for taller people.
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement, much appreciated :) I get what you mean re. fork dive, but it is more pronounced than with my 500X. I've also ridden the 1250GS with its admittedly very expensive adaptive suspension that has no dive at all under braking, so I was just a bit surprised by the Ténéré. I soon got used to it, though. Ride safe :)
@@RocketMan_Moto R1200GS uses completely different front suspension, it's telelever, that's why it don't dive :)
@@robsonenduro3316 Yes, I know, but having got used to that, it came as a surprise to jump on the Yamaha. I'm not saying the Ténéré is bad, just that a new rider needs to expect dive :)
@Jason Davis only famous around who didn't ride the bike and repeat stupid things. LOL It has soft suspension for racing though, but it's not racing bike.
Nice video man, very informative and neutral. Congrats. NIce to see honest people this days
Thanks, Sebastian. Much appreciated :)
thx a lot fo the informative Video.
i switched from a KLE 500 to a V Strom 650 and i am happy with it. I travel a lot and make a lot of dirtroads (Kirigstan, Tadjikistan and so on) The V Strom is also 2000 Euros cheaper then the Tenere. The front suspension needs some work for dirt roads, but it is a very comfortable bike with a strong engine. i was thinking to get a tenere, but i wanted something more comfortable for my long journeys which is still able to go on dirtroads.
Thanks for your feedback. I fully understand that where you live means that reliability and off-road capabilities are top priority😊 Ride safe
A very good review, thank you.
Thank you for taking the time to leave such a nice comment. Audience appreciation makes all the effort worthwhile. Ride safe :)
Really enjoyed this report.
Thank you :)
Superb comparison review!
Thanks, PistolPete! I try to be as objective as possible, so it's nice to see my efforts are appreciated. Ride safe :)
Thanks for your video and good advice. I have seen all your videos and I also agree with you that the yamaha tenete 700 is the best of all the bikes that you have analyzed for practicality and economy and simplicity of engine. Could you please make a video about the panniers rear bag of the yamaha tenere 700 and some accessories? Thanks
Thanks, Jesus. I don't own a Ténéré, I was only test riding it, so I don't know about the accessories :)
Great points. I missed the sounds but youtube is full of that. Convincing review. i`d like to own one of these
700 sounds perfect, good weight and easier to maneuver offroad
Glad you liked it!
Great review, thanks.
Thanks for your kind words of encouragement😊 Ride safe.
Great review. How would it compare against the Moto Guzzi V85 TT? Both are twin cylinders, but with some differences on displacement and engine type. Best regards
Good idea👍 I’m going to try and get a go on the KTM 790 next, and then maybe the V85. Ride safe😊
Muito bem. Espectacular "review" (mesmo depois de 1 ano e tal). Vejo que foste buscar a mota ao João, na MJPaiva, e andaste a passear na minha terra! Muito bem, parabéns! And to top it all, you have perfect dictation and a magnificent english accent, which makes this review a true pleasure to watch!
Obrigado :)
Regarding the suspension, did you attempt to adjust sag, damping, and rebound? Those are all very important parts to getting the suspension to work for the individual rider.
I must confess that I didn't really have time to play with the suspension settings. I realise these are critical. Ride safe :)
Great honest review as always, do you think there would have been more comfort with the stock seat?
I think the seat is the same, only with different mounts
Out of sheer curiosity i want to ask you a question. Why is the road red in colour?
Hey there, thanks for the video! I was just wondering what the maximum comfortable cruising speed of the Tenere 700 is? On my cb500x 70 miles per hour on a long trip is just fine, and wind noise is ok, but beyond that the engine seems more stressed, and wind noise jumps up considerably. But what about the Tenere? What maximum speed is it comfortable cruising at based on the engine and wind noise/buffeting? Thanks so much for the video it's really helpful!
Hi, Kim. I agree that 70 is about as fast as you can go on the CB500X without straining it. No problem on the Ténéré, it's way more powerful and feels as if it has more like 90hp - incredible really. I didn't ride it much on the motorway, but getting up to 90mph was very easy.
RocketMan Thanks for the reply man that’s really helpful. It sounds like the tannery is a really fun bike might be my next one too!
Great review! Somewhat interestingly, I settled for the CB500X 2019 owing to the extended delay in the release of the Tenere and at 6'41/2" and even though the CB500X is considered reasonably tall, I find it a little low (as are most bikes for me!), but allowing for the fact that you are also tall; I'm quite surprised that you have opted for a lowering kit as the height of the Tenere was one of the attractors for me. I agree that the saddle would feel like riding a razor's edge after a long ride and I suspect that as there is a touring pillion seat available, there may be a rider's option soon? Also, what's up with the old-style fuel cap that fully detaches, messing up tank bag configurations? I'm hoping that they're considering a 'touring' version which is mostly road-focused, with some off-the-beaten-track potential (pretty much like the CB500X 2019!)
Thanks for your feedback and kind words of support, much appreciated :) I generally like low bikes - I have a scooter, Monkey 125 and a 'small' Triumph Street Triple. The Triumph Rocket I have on order will also be very low, so I'm not too bothered about height. I agree about the fuel cap, but many bikes continue to have these, including the new Rocket, and this despite having 'modern' keyless ignition. A touring version of the Ténéré would be wonderful! Ride safe :)
@@RocketMan_Moto I think they call it Yamaha Tracer 700!
@@iliseimihai Yes, but the Tracer is too old now :)
@@RocketMan_Moto The New Tracer 700 - 2020
ua-cam.com/video/_WpSuZ9cawU/v-deo.html
A very interesting video.Looking for a decent two up adventure bike.What is the CB like two up over distance?Thanks for some great videos.
Thanks for your kind words, Stuart😊 My wife and I have gone about 3 hours max in a day, with several breaks. It’s fine, but tbh, if we have any further to go, we wuss out and take the car😂
Great review. I test rode the 700 tracer vs 900 tracer. The 700 engine is fabulous. The 900 is too twitchy and the various engine maps on the triple are rubbish. The only fault I can find on the 700 tracer is its stature. It felt a bit cramped. I’m 5’10” with 31” inside leg. I think it could do with a longer chassis or a higher saddle. Maybe I should try a teneré. But I’m a vtwin fan so I’d use your V7😎
What a great review, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Rocketman nice review. i Currently own a cb500x 19' and considering swapping to a tracer 700 as i mostly ride 2up (150kg 2up) and i feel the need to accelerate faster from time to time. Whats your thoughts?
9 months ahead and i swapped to a 18' tiger 800 XCX. Super happy about it having put around 4k miles on it already both road and light trails, solo and 2up
Great review - now that you're getting a Transalp, would you consider doing an off-road course? I think it'd probably make a good video, and they're always useful even if you decide off-road isn't your thing, as what you learn in terms of handling the bike on uncertain terrain gives you more confidence and skill for on the road too I think. I'm aiming to do the Dave Thorpe off-road course on Exmoor next year, on one of his Africa Twin DCT bikes. I think it'll really help me get to grips with my current bike.
What a great idea! I’ll see what’s available down here. Thanks👍😊
Thanks. I was looking for this exact comparison.
Great, glad to be of help. Both bikes are good, but I’d go for the Ténéré today (it wasn’t available back in the spring when I was looking). Ride safe😊
@@RocketMan_Moto Choosing between Africa twin, CB500X and the Tenere 700. The 700 isn't sold here yet. Think maybe it's the best choice. I haven't ridden in years and kind of old now. The AT just sounds too heavy.
Ron Sexton I didn’t gel with the AT when I tried it a couple of weeks ago (see my video on here, if interested) - too big, too electronic, too expensive... Imho, the Ténéré is worth waiting for😊
@@RocketMan_Moto The AT just looks too big and heavy. I am thinking about Las Vegas and some sand and sandy roads during retirement. And the AT looks a bit heavy. Surprisingly the 700 seems within 20 pounds of the CB500X but with a lot more power, albeit less range which is also important. And everyone like you seems to think it is superior on the road for situations like hills and passing. And smoothness. I don't like buzzy! I had an GS1100G that was a bit buzzy on the hands. Surprised people report the CB500X is a bit buzzy. Also the 700 engine is considered extremely reliable. Your review convinced me. I am waiting for the 700. The KTM seem just a bit much and also expensive and not sure about reliability. Like the 790. Have you ridden that?
I’m yet to test the KTM, but I’m not a fan of the brand as a whole. Finish and reliability are concerns for me. I think the next bike I try could be the Triumph Tiger 900, launched today, although the cost is way higher than the back to basics Tenere I enjoyed so much.
Excellent review, much like all your content. How would you compare this to the Tracer 900GT as a daily commuter, do it all bike? Offroading is not really a must have for me. Thanks again.
I was about to order the Tracer 900GT, but at the last minute the new BMW F900XR appeared on the scene, so I went with that. I have done a couple of videos on it, if you're interested :)
RocketMan I saw all your videos, my comment above re excellent review much like all your content hold true. I guess life is all about choices, much less about two excellent bikes like Tracer 900GT or the BMW F900XR. Enjoy it my friend and keep us posted with more excellent reviews in the months to come.
New to the channel and nice to see you reviewing a bike I really like in my neck of the woods :) Currently own a 2014 NC750X DCT, but seriously considering getting rid of it as at 187cms, the riding position really kills my 47 year old knees. Riding position on the T7 looks much better for someone of my height but I would prefer something a little more road orientated. Africa Twin is too overkill IMO. Maybe the Triumph Tiger? Just worried about losing that old Japanese reliability and fairly low cost maintenance. Anyway, will hold on to my NC750X until I have made up my mind. We are spoiled for choice these days, but that’s also part of the problem 😂
Cheers and thank you for the channel. I’m loving it 👍🏽
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement, Diogo. This is one of my early videos and things have moved on quite a bit since. I now ride a Triumph Speed Twin, which I absolutely love, despite the aches and pains that come with a 58-year-old body, lol. Boas curvas :)
@@RocketMan_Moto I can imagine :) I adore the Speed Twin, looks absolutely stunning. I’ve watched a few more of your videos and loving everyone of them. And yes, boas curvas 👍🏼
Thanks for your support😊
Hello, with the new 2022 cbx ho do you feel about this comparison now ?
I can't decide between both
The 2022 has significant upgrades (see: ua-cam.com/video/hL7-dxbJLfo/v-deo.html), but if I could afford the T7 I would go for that - much livelier engine :)
Wow really good video. Would like to here your opinion to the v strom 650. please test it and make a video !!!
Thanks. The V Strom is on my list of bikes to try. Ride safe😊
Ever bump into Cager on your travels? These roads look really familiar, even though I've never actually been to Lisbon.
Yes, I met him a few months ago and yes, we use the same test route. He lives a couple of miles away from me😊
Thoughts on the combination of no slipper clutch and no traction control? Is that a bit too back to basics?
The lack of a slip-assist clutch surprised me, but only for the first few gear changes. You soon get used to it. I don't think the engine is quite powerful enough to warrant TC; I certainly never felt the rear wheel give way, and I was gunning it in relatively low temperatures on mixed tyres...
Excellent review. Compared to most of the other Adventure bikes, the Tenere is good value and, from what you say, a good off road performing bike. I bought a Himalayan about 5 months ago and, like the Tenere, is a good off road Adventure bike. Not a good bike for dual carriageways, though.That's not too important for me as motorway riding isn't much fun on any bike, and the Himalayan is very cheap ( just over £4k ) The Tenere, though, could well be my next bike. I'll have to get a test ride on one and see what I think. Also, before I bought one I think I'd try to rent one for 2-3 days in order to get a better feel for it. Hope you enjoy your new Rocket when you get it. I think that every time you walk back to it, where ever it's parked, you'll be pushing your way through the crowd, and answering questions before you can get on it - at least for a while.
Haha, thanks for your comments😊 I agree about motorways on a bike; I always feel very exposed. The Ténéré is a very good bike and I should really be buying that, rather than the absurd Rocket. But I just can’t resist the ‘everyone will think I’m the Terminator’ fantasy😂 Ride safe.
@@RocketMan_Moto Yeah, when you get off it just say ' I'll be back'
geoff newman haha👍😎
Nice review of the Tenere it is a very practical go any where bike. 44 teeth have just done a review of the Rocket.
Thanks for your kind words, John :) Yes, I saw the 44 teeth review (I am sad and scour UA-cam several times a day for videos on 'my' Rocket!) Stay tuned for plenty of uploads on here. Ride safe :)
Dammmit 😂 dude, you had to run the T7?! Out of all the CB500x vids I watched yours had me sold!! Even joined their forum.
I would like to learn more about the Rally Raid mods for the CB500x first and see if it’ll help dial it in closer to the likes of a T7. The CB500x will prob have to be it for me though since I’ll be getting two bikes...one for Thailand touring and one for the states (where I work).
Oh yeah, you’ve got an awesome cadence, diction and tone for video narration. 😉
Haha, thanks... I think. I change bikes at least once a year and the CB500X is probably the only one I regret selling. Plus, they fixed the vibration problem on the 2021 model👍
Beautiful accent, beautiful scenery, nicely filmed
Honestly if I had the dish to fork out on a Tenere after picking up a Rocket, I would over the Honda. I’ve had several large capacity dual road bikes which I enjoyed exploring dirt back roads on day/weekend trips around Melbourne and through Gippsland on the way to Canberra, Australia. I’m currently riding a CB500F but was thinking about trading up to a CB500X. I’m 5’8 so I’d get the Tenere lowering kit and centre stand. For extra comfort I’d fit a sheepskin seat cover or similar product.
Look forward to your rocket owner review.
Thanks for your comment, Andrew. Yes, if I had an unlimited budget, then I would swap my Honda for the Yamaha in a heart beat. I genuinely think it's a better bike, and worth the extra cash. I'm hoping to pick up my Rocket around Dec 16, fingers crossed, so expect many videos over Christmas and the New Year. All the best :)
Why not bite the bullet and get a new seat from Russell? If you buy anything less you are just wasting money. By the time you buy your second new replacement seat, you have spent what you would for a Russell seat. Sixty% of the riders who finish the Iron Butt use Russell saddles. Vaughn
@@gaylemesser136 Wasn't aware of Russel seats, I'll check them out. Thanks :)
I thought about buying one of these last October. I've always loved Ducatis too. I've ended up with a second hand Ducati Desert Sled & am very happy with it. I will use it on dirt at times & with its 19" front tyre it won't be as good as the Tenere. I couldn't have justified a new Tenere anyway, but I'l see how things are in a few years when there are pre-owned ones for sale.
Thanks for your feedback, Patrick. Ride safe :)
Have you compared with the Vstrom DL650 ?
Or do you find it to heavy ?
I have yet to try the Suzuki, but I've booked a test ride of the KTM 790 Adventure for the end of this week. Stay tuned for my opinion. Ride safe :)
I just trying to do my mod 1 and 2 and I've been looking about for a bike . I did think about the normal route of getting a 600 bandit or hornet , but I keep looking at that 500 x
Same situation as me
I will be riding with three of my friends next season that have 700’s on order. We do a fair amount of adventure touring and all have had various adventure bikes. I currently own a 2014 CB500x that I installed the rally raid kit. I was lucky for I found this bike new a few years ago and with the kit installed was a great bargain. My last adventure unit was a KTM690 and although the CB has significantly less power the conversion has made this bike ideal. Hiway cruising and off roading is fantastic.
Sounds like some great road trips you have planned there, can I come with you, lol? The RallyRaid mods do transform the 500X, I agree. Ride safe :)
How do you rate the extra weight of the CBX after the KTM? Hindrance? Benefit?
I loved the 690. I spent a week in Moab on it. Great for off road. As soon as you need to ride some distance with it you vibrate and get numb. I can’t ride nearly as quick with the 500 but everything I do with it makes it sooo much more enjoyable. Exploring is 100 times better. I can ride the highway in comfort then hit a technical trail and get through easily. The rally raid kit is a great up grade. If you want a fantastic all arounder the 500 with the kit hits the spot!
@@billsbikes Thanks for your feedback. I will be discussing the RallyRaid kit in a forthcoming video :)
Rocketman you find your bike has lots of vibration? I guess coming from my 690 I found this little twin buzz free. However I changed out my risers and to a fat bar plus hot grips.... I don’t know if that would make a difference... 70mph she is pretty calm.
Well done video; thumbs up.
Thank you very much!
I have a 2017 MT07, 80MPG and a 2018 CB500X 90MPG. They are both amazing bikes in their own right and I thoroughly enjoy riding them. I feel exactly the same as you about the MT07 engine and the CB500x comfort. What I would really like is to put the Yamaha engine into the Honda and that for me would be a dream bike. I have taken the MT07 to Croatia and back from England but it is not comfortable. Ride safe, Mike.
Lol, thanks Mike. Oh yes, wouldn’t it be wonderful if we could cherry-pick different parts from different bikes😊
Thought of the KTM 390 Adventure? Should come in at around 5500 - 6000 Eur, 158kg only + fuel.
Not sure I could do with only a 390, but the 790 is on my list of bikes to try. Ride safe😊
Did you say the Tenere feel similar seat height with the CB500X? I am inseam challenged and the 500X is the only adventure bike that I can fit well (the ball of my foot, of course). However, the 500X is more street focus and I want off more road focus. If what you said is true, I can hardly wait till 2021 (Tenere won't arrive in the US till then). Well, one more year is not too far, having to wait for many years already. Currently, no mfg make a small cc, low seat height small adventure bike (not even KTM 390 adventure, BMS 310GS or Honda CRF250).
The Ténéré I tried had the optional low seat and I found it almost identical to the CB500X. Ride safe😊
Your pretensions to now have a go at off-roading (something I’m scared to do) have presumably gone out of the window with your decision to buy the B-Mer, or are you going to buy both? Cheers, Gordon
You’re right, I did dabble a little in light off-roading, but I’ve decided I want to involve my wife more this year (she doesn’t ride and you can’t really go off-roading with a pillion), so I’m going more touring with the BMW😊
@@RocketMan_Moto I've never done any off-roading, but having looked at quite a few YT videos, all that heavy breathing, falling off and other scary moments, and having had the pain of my Tiger 800 falling on my leg, I think touring with your wife is a much better idea, and whats more, you even get to see the scenery which from what I can see, the off-roaders dont get as they fly (sometimes literary) down the the tracks. Cheers, Gordon
It was a pleasure to hear what you think about those bikes. I consider both as a first bike, but I'm worried about that with 185cm and 100kg I will be too big for CB. How tall are you?
0:50 he said 6f 3 so about 190cm tall, but in a different video he said being 187cm and 90kg, so you should be just fine with that bike
Can you get a bigger windscreen like my givi tall on my cb500x
Probably
I like your videos. Why do you live in Portugal?
Excellent review. Understated, in typical English fashion. LOL. I found your insight very helpful as I am also trying to decide on one of the 3 your mention. Every bike is a compromise, unless one rides in a very narrow range of applications. I used to be dedicated to the KTM brand, but I think KTM has lost a bit with regard to quality control. I have also owned BMW, but there again, I think the marque has lost the soul of the original boxers and the F650's of the early 2000's. Not many bikes live up to the pre-launch hype, but the T7 does seem to be the exception.
Thanks. The T7 is probably the bike I'd go for now if I was looking for an adventure bike. KTM QC is a bit dodgy, as you say, and I have been put off BMWs after my experience last year with the F900XR. There's also the new Triumph Tiger 850, which looks good and not too expensive. Ride safe :)
Talking of spending 15k on a bike, I was looking at a TransAlp for about 3k and I still think it's a grand overpriced... LOL
Thanks for clearing up the eternal CB-X - Ténéré debate... I notice that CB500Xs from 5 years back are now in my budget :D
Haha, not sure I’ve definitively cleared up the debate, but I appreciate your optimism. I get you on the price of new bikes... and to think it used to be seen as a cheap means of transport 🙄 Ride safe😊
Great video, I own a 2018 Africa Twin which I like, but not love. I'm seriously considering trading in the twin for the tenere 700
Interesting feedback, thanks. Not sure if you've seen my video on the new Africa Twin (ua-cam.com/video/WqNuzMkyMPk/v-deo.html), but I was pretty underwhelmed by it, given the price, so I can understand how you don't love it. The Ténéré came as a big surprise to me and I definitely found it more fun - if less competent for round-the-world trips... which I don't plan on doing - than the AT. Ride safe :)
Hi @RocketMan can you tell me your height? did you sad 6'3 and you need to have the lower seat?
6’2. The standard seat suits me fine👍
Great review and some nice roads they look familiar? Do you know cager on two wheels?
Thanks, Thomas. Yes, I know Cager. Met him a few months ago. Ride safe :)
Speaking of Cager, Yamaha Tracer 700 or CB500X ?
Would have to be the tracer for me, the Honda 500 range are great bikes all round well proven and well made definitely worth the money, but I think I would get bored of the engines lack of power.
@@thomaspeacock8990 I feel the same, had a Tracer for a couple of months until I had to sell her. But next year, I have the Tracer 700 at the top of my list for my next bike. Down the list would be an MT09, CB650F, SV650, lastly an ER6F.
I agree and that’s why I’ve just changed to a BMW F900XR 😊