as a retired motorcycle mechanic, the first thing i noticed on the video was that the chain had stiff links in part due to wear and lack of lubrication, the next thing was how hooked the front sprocket was that you took off, so the rear sprocket was probably in the same condition which in my opinion requires a change in both sprockets and a chain, by fitting just one sprocket it will tend to wear quickly to match the wear in the chain and rear sprocket, as you said you are lacking in the knowlege that iv'e accumulated over many years, i'm not trying to put you down in anyway, just trying to be helpfull, good luck.
Thanks for the informative comment, Stephen! I truly appreciate it. The chain is actually less than a year old. And I'm pretty regimented about lubbing it every 500miles (Chain Wax), and doing a thorough cleaning every few thousand. So I was quite perplexed when another reader pointed out the kinks in the video. I contacted the store I bought it from. Being less than a year old, the thought DID would surely replace it under warranty and gave me their contact info. I'll be reaching out to them this week. The rear sprocket is actually in pretty descent shape. I'm pretty gentle on the throttle. But it's next on my list. Thanks again for the sage advice, my friend!
i just thought you needed to know, i normally lubricate my chains after a ride or two (depending on the conditions and the weather i'm riding in ) while the chain is still warm from use then wiping off the excess afterwards the day after, i myself use chain wax on occasion but prefer a more oily lubricant most of the time, don't believe everything the marketeers throw at you, iv'e used gear oil, chain saw oil and whatever iv'e had to hand, as long as it is lubrication it's ok, it's the throw off factor that is important to some people they and i don't like cleaning thrown off chain lube off the back end of the bike, every day is a school day, good luck.
just because the front sprocket is worn does not mean the rear is anywhere near as bad as the front rotates on average 3 times as many times as the rear
After riding from Germany to Portugal and back on the Trans Euro Trial, one great key feature on the CB500X is that low 1st gear. Riding often standing and going slow on routh terrain, through river beds and on steep hills, that proofed to be important ... always depends on the way of usage.
I have 1 in Crete I ride in the mountains, stock 1st gear is fine. I have 1 I ride in UK, as soon as I rode it there I noticed how short 1st gear was! I'll fit a 16T on the uk one.
Ich will die gleiche route fahren im Sommer. Hast du tipps welche Anbauteile ich benötige? Motorschutz Blech, Sturzbügel (Oben unten?), welchen reifen bist du gefahren?
@bitparlee7120 vorne Heidenau, hinten Continental tkc80, ohne Bashplate aber mit Motorschutzbügeln seitlich, Handguards und Tubeless-Flickzeug. Viel Spass auf dem TET & Obacht vor Pyrenäen- Hunden in den spanischen Dörfern!
Hi all. Did the Mod with the front sprocket on my CBR500R and it has worked wonders. The speedometer now reads exact. I just did a major long-range highway trip and the motor was working a lot less hard at 70mph. Much more usable and better mileage. This works really well.
Im confused as to why Honda did not include the 16tooth sprocket. I think I will consider this change when I need to replace my chain. Thank you for this video, still very useful.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful. I believe the reason why Honda does not include the 16 tooth sprocket is because in many countries there are not large interstates like we have in the west. Many of the countries where this motorcycle is marketed have very curvy, mountainous, or dirt roads where the 15 tooth sprocket is more appropriate.
It's because this bike is not intended for highway riding. It is marketed as an allrounder. This change may work wonders on the smooth road at high speeds but it is not so good for off-road riding. And Honda sell this bike telling that it can handle off-road too.
I just purchased the 16T sprocket and ready to install in my 2013 CB500x. I haven't driven it much so it only has about 5,000 miles on it. My question is: did you have a problem with the chain guard fitting with the new 16T sprocket? Did you have to get it ground off a little, or did you just leave it off? I'd like to determine that before I take it apart. Thanks
Thanks very much for the instructional video. With the new 16 tooth sprocket, each gear feels like it is operating in the range that was meant to be. With the original 15 tooth sprocket, first gear was so short and jerky. Much more usable and smooth now. Truly a worthwhile mod! -If I may add one bit of advice to folks who are about to do this: In order to remove the top part of the gear shift linkage, pull the small bolt out COMPLETELY -do not just loosen it, as the linkage will not come off otherwise (don't ask me how I know!) -Happy riding folks!
That's awesome! I'm glad you're enjoying this new modification. I have to admit, I chuckled at your piece of advice...clearly learned through experience. 🙂 Excellent tip!!!
Glad we could help! You might want to also watch Part 2 where we show another gearing option by changing the rear sprocket...plus tons of other tips in our CB500X playlist!
Hi @@allanlao5172! Unfortunately I've never kept good records of my fuel mileage. So I have no records to compare it against now that I've made the change. Many have speculated that this upgrade should provide slightly better fuel economy. But to me, just the fact that the engine isn't working as hard at high speeds makes the whole upgrade worth it!
Hey lorne I'm in Canada aswell so when i do 128km/h by gps I'm actually doing 120 so speed will be corrected with the 16t sprocket right? I have the same engine but on a 2020rebel 500
You CAN ALSO drop the rear tooth by 2 teeth (equal to a 1 tooth increase on front sprocket)... I have done a double sprocket mod on many bikes I've owned (1 tooth up on front AND 2 less teeth on rear), it made a big difference, it lengthened the 1st gear, lowered revs in 6th on highway speeds, helped with vibrations in various riding situations, helped with fuel economy, and generally helped with a smoother ride. HOWEVER, I would advise that the double sprocket mod should really be done on bikes that have enough power to deal with mod, so a modern 500cc bike upwards. I've done the double sprocket mod on an 80's Suzuki GSX400f Katana, Bandit 600, Kawasaki ZX10 B2, Suzuki RF900RW, Kawasaki ZR-7, a mate even did it on his Kawasaki KLR650, and he found it helped in many ways.... Ride Safe, Ride Free People 😎😎😎
Great comment, thedarkknight1971! Several viewers have found dropping to a 39T rear sprocket is similar to increasing to the 16T front on the CB500X. I'm not sure I'd do both since the engine really doesn't have much "oomph" once you reach higher speeds in 6th gear. Maybe if you lived in Kansas where the roads are long and flat? ;-)
@@michaelbigelow3255 "Performance" figures. They usually set the gearing depending on the balance of economy and performance but depending on models they'll lean towards the latter to help sales...
Hi Emmanual! You're very welcome! You should also watch this video I did more recently: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.html. After years of experimenting with new gearing, I think the 39T rear sprocket is now my FAVORITE setup for this bike!!! But if you mostly do highways or commuting on pavement, the 16T is still my second-favorite choice. Enjoy your new bike!
Great video Chris!! The maths is simple. Drive sprocket teeth / Driven sprocket teeth = speed ratio. The % change caused by changing drive or driven sprocket teeth will increase or decrease speed respectively and the inverse effect by the same % will occur on torque and acceleration. Enjoyed your video and replies to people's comments; humble and sincere responses!
You get just over a 6% decrease in RPM with the sprocket change IE about 300 RPM at 60MPH, 15/16= 93.8 so if you had 4900 RPM at 60mph before then you'll have 4900 x .938= 4594 RPM. Nice improvement
My experience with Honda always has been to go +1t up front and -3t at the rear. It's about the same as +2t up front. Gas mileage goes up, vibrations go down. Also gear spacing is not affected by a sprocket change, because all you do is shift each gear by a percentage. The spacing is still exactly the same percentage as before.
Thats what i was thinking as well. If you need to mod something, just do the 1 to 3 ratio and change rear sprocket. Just go up 3. Slightly more expensive for a rear versus the front, but only by a few dallors. Speedo must be mounted on the transmion for it to change the actual speedo reading. Which isnt really a big deal once you figure out actual speed. Since 100% of bikes from Japan are intentionally set to read faster than actual speed. Due to legality issues in the passed. Was going to buy a CB since im older now. But actually put money down to ve the first person to own the New KTM 490 Adventure. The dealer was shocked since the bike isnt even built, but only 10% down. And its refundable.
@@tiagofigueiredo2529 I have bought one, but not got around to fitting it yet, my garage is a bit cold this time of year, soon. Looking forward to the change.
@@tiagofigueiredo2529 I just returned from a $4,500 mile trip down through Mexico and back with the 16T front sprocket. AMAZING riding in Mexico. The sprocket did great! Check it out at: ua-cam.com/video/s8Av65qL_mY/v-deo.html.
I'm glad you liked it, Robert! Yes...no need in wasting a good chain and sprockets. When it's time for a new set is the perfect opportunity to upgrade. You should also watch our companion video about the 39T upgrade: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.html. It goes into a lot more detail than the first one.
I noticed He did the baseline test was using the speedometer and after the swap he used his GPS which was a 7mph difference. Pre swap rpms at 70mph(speedometer reading) were 5,800rpm; after swap rpms at 73mph (80mph on gps) he said was just blow 6,000 rpm. So on the speedometer the rpms between 70-73mph before and after the swap was maybe 50-100rpm, that's pretty negligible. I would like a taller 1st so I may end up doing this for that reason alone.
Good to know, George! A lot of guys have installed one of these to correct the speedometer: SpeedoDRD DRD-3 from 12 oClock Labs - amzn.to/2Pahs8C. I just use my GPS to guage my speed. Thanks for watching!
I have a 2018 CB500 FA. 12 months ago I changed the front sprocket to a 16T and rear to a 41T. My local dealer did this for me. I also went to a 112 link chain. I don't regret it. It turned my bike to almost new bike. Top end I find it performs better, not so much buzzing from the bike. The down side, not as quick off the mark and instead of 370km per tank of fuel I get 330(approximately). I did a rally recently with all my gear, about an extra(30kg) on the bike as well and the bike preformed just as good if not better than if it was just me. Anyone thinking about changing sprockets go for it. Just my 2 cents from a kiwi rider
I tried to jam different wrenches not the rear sprocket to lock the wheel but wasn't having any luck, I watched a different video where he put a 2x2 through the back wheel and used the swingarm to lock, that worked great both to loosen and tighten. I had no problem with the safety plate being in the way, weird.
Absolutely! That's a great tip. You might want to watch our newer video: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.html. I demonstrate that technique (using a wooden handle from a hammer) and walk you through a complete chain and sprockets replacement. More importantly, I share why after two years of using the 16T drive sprocket, I found an even better solution.
I put a 16T on my 650 Vstrom it geared the same as the SV now. Much better on the road. It also allows you to use the lower gears for longer when accelerating and is generally a more relaxed ride.
Lots of CB500X reviews talk about that vibrating in the handlegrips and foot peddles over 6,000 revs, but I think you've just shown us the fix - great vid!
When you did the 15T evaluation, you used the indicated speed rather than GPS -- at indicated 80 MPH the GPS showed 83. So part of the reduced engine speed you observed going to 16T is that you were going 3 MPH slower than you were with the 15T. Thank you for the high quality video. Stay safe!
@@MotoPhotoAdventures Interestingly motorcycles here in Canada all seem to be about 5-7% optimistic in their speed readings. Might be an attempt to get people to go more slowly. Surprised to see yours was a few % slower than GPS speed. Anyways, might see if I can do this 16T mod to my CBR500R. Should bring the speed a little closer to actual, in my case. Take care and safe riding!
Wow, I didn't actually know our speedos were so accurate! People always complain about the speedo difference, but ~3.5% slower at 80mph than GPS is pretty good!
I've used chain wax for years, and have found that on a cold chain the links can appear "kinked", but after brushing and spraying on new lube it looks good as new! What I always look for while brushing is loose rollers; that and chain slack tells me when it's time to replace it. My 2 cents... LOL
I’ve changed this on my 2020 today . Been for a 30 min spin and I’m presently on the fence as to whether I like it or not. Definitely longer legs but don’t feel as peppy as it did . Will have to suck it and see for a while.
Obviously it depends on what kind of riding you do. But if you do a fair amount of commuting or distance riding, I think you'll really like it once you get used to it!
Man dude thank you for the advice I put one on my CB500X a week after I bought it but mine is not the solid I bought the one with the rubber insert in the middle from JT sprockets. I've only written it through my neighborhood but it seems to be a big difference
@Moto Photo Adventures I finally did it 2 weeks ago and made my first bigger trip yesterday. Its a totally different bike now 😎 ... 70kmh in 3rd gear when i was normally in 4th or 5th before already GREAT Idea, best change on my bike so far. I used the rubber supported 16er
If one rides mainly in flat areas, it makes a lot of sense to change the gearing to reduce rpm's. On the other hand, if one does off roading or lives on a mountain, it's probably not a good idea as you want o get the most out of those 48cv. Enjoy the bike!
Yo Chris, American 65 year old man in the Philippines waiting for my 2022 cb500x to arrive at the dealership. The 1 improvement I can't find here is a 16 T sprocket. I've got a box of accessories but no bike yet 😢. Sure would like to find a 16 toother !
Hi Rick! That's awesome. I bet you love the Philippines. I've heard it's a great place to retire!!! Pretty cool that you're getting a new 2022 CB500X. The improvements on the new model look awesome. Have you tried ordering the 16T from JT Sprockets in Europe? You might also consider keeping the 15T front sprocket and getting a smaller 39T rear sprocket. Check out this video where I explain the difference: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.html. I'm actually using this setup right now and I think I like it even better than the 16T front?!? But you better check compatibility because the 2022 might have a different bolt pattern for the rear sprocket. Good luck and ENJOY!!!
CB500x is a fantastic bike. I converted mine to the Rally Raid stage 3 kit which includes suspension, and spoke wheels. I use the bike mostly for back County riding so having lower gearing is better for me riding off road. What I love about the CB is its twin cylinder so even with the 15t sprocket at 70mph it is still smooth as silk.
Daniel Pearson you live in gods country! I have to travel 10 hours to get where you are. Have you ridden the Gifford Panach forest? I spent a week there love it. I could spend 3 months in those states and still not see it all!! Enjoy!
I totally agree, Bill! The "X" is indeed a fantastic bike, and very customizeable to different rider's tastes. I'd love to do the RR kit some day. Glad you enjoy yours!
Glad you enjoyed it! Here's the one I've been using: JT Sprockets: amzn.to/3uRj4D6. This is for the 2013-2018 model CB500X. I think it fits newer models as well. But you'll want to double-check that. Enjoy!
I have a 2016 model. I changed the 15T for a 16T front sprocket over a year ago. It's a great mod. Also, on my bike the speedo used to read too high, but now is quite accurate when comparing to GPS. This is strange, as you say yours is out of calibration, but yours is a later model which may explain this. Ride safe.
Thanks for the kind comment, Graeme! I'm glad you enjoy your modification as much as I enjoy mine. By the way, I have a 2013. While it is strange that our speedometers were different, I've heard there are a lot of variations from the factory. Plus, factors like which tires you are using affect the accuracy of the stock speedometer. Anyway, get out and enjoy your bike!!!
Graeme Evans, was yours reading pretty much exactly 10% over before the swap? I've got a 2015 and I'm wondering what will happen to my speedo reading if I swap to 16T. Mine is currently reading 10% over, if yours was the same there's a good chance it'll make mine more accurate too.
@@dom252 Yes I think it was about that. I'm in the uk. It seems likely speedo readings are exaggerated by manufacturers depending on the country. All the same, the 16T makes for a better ride. I would only recommend keeping the 15T if you ride off road.
@@graemeevans2608 Perfect, yeah I'm UK as well. Already pretty much sold on the mod but was wondering if it'd cause calibration headache. But sounds like it might make it better!
Thanks for the response. I have looked at a few of the links you suggested, am working on checking the all out. I am struggling with the auxiliary lights. I want them on the high beam switch, and want to find the ( blue wire to trigger the relay, if that is the correct way.). I can't find the factory plug. I want to use douitch plugs . Thanks for taking time from your day. I'm sure you have more important things to do.
Hi Marshall! Always happy to help, my friend. Unfortunately I didn't install my lights on the high-beam switch. So I have no knowledge of how to wire it that way. I can't think of any situations where you would want to turn those off. The more lights you have on, the better you can see. But more importantly, the better other drivers can see YOU!!! Hopefully someone on the www.cb500x.com forum could help you out? Cheers...
Thanks I have put them on a handlebar mounted switch . After careful thought about what you said, it makes sense to have them on a separate switch so I can turn them ON in daylight hours and off at night when not wanted. I was thinking different, thanks for your input. In 2 months I’ll be 64 and I have finally learned to LISTEN to /think about what people say, and not have a knee jerk reaction. I learned that and to be THANKFUL instead of bitchen about everything about 5/6 years ago. I’m a lot happier now. As for as for the cb500x forum, I joined them when I first got mine but I forgot my username and password and don’t know how to fix it. I’m not good with a computer ( I am at my limit with what I’m doing now, I’ve been trying for 10 minutes on this comment 😂😂😂 just found that face thinner button recently ) but 2 years ago I would not have even thought about thought about more than 5 word comments. So I’m getting better. No typest but can use 2 fingers now. As long as I don’t accidentally touch something and delete the whole thing. Thanks for getting my mind right.
Finally on october the first I arrived in Thailand. The bike now has got the 16 T sprocket and I can say I passed from a coffee grinder to a swiss clock. Been riding 1500 km in 49 hours to reach Udonthani( 21 hours on the saddle) and I have not regrets. I respected the 90 km/h speed limit and most of the time the engine revs at 4000 rpm. Now I still have to find a guy who can correctly adjust the speed on the clock by adding the speedo calibrator . This is a quite expensive device as it costs 4 times the price of the 16 T sprocket Yesterday I also made mods on my fork with the YSS upgrade kit which makes a great difference on handling and braking,the suspension is firmer.
When I left Udonthani alone I had to use my phone navigation app Maps for the first time of my life. I was quietly riding along the paddy fields when I suddenly realize that Maps gives the GPS speed. And guest what? When the speedometer on the clock indicates 90 km per hour the GPS shows 89 km per hour. A few day before when riding to the Mekong river at Nongkhai i was riding with my buddy Marc who gets also a 2018 500X . With my 16 T sprocket my speed was 93km per hour when Marc’s speedo indicated 97 km per hour ( with the original 15 T but a bigger rear tyre 150/70/17). I am so happy to say if you upgrade to the 16 T sprocket your speed on your clock will be the real GPS speed. In fact the speedo with the original 15T is about 5 percent higher than reality. I have a brand new 12oclocklabs speed calibrator for sale...
torque at every RPM will be 6% less (15/16). For those who plan a little off roading, they might want the stock 15T for more torque when on difficult steep terrain. I love the CB500X. had 2013, switched to a Versys 650, want to go back to CB now!!
Changing the front or rear sprocket to drop engine revs does have a downside in that it makes the bottom gear taller, therefore, having to use more clutch slip pulling away, particularly on hills.
Thanks for the excellent insight, Barrie! This is true. And if you live in a very hilly area, or ride rough off-road trails a lot, it's not something I would do. However, the CB500X has an extremely short first gear to begin with. Personally I found it almost useful in my relatively flat part of the country. In fact, I often just pulled away from stop lights in 2nd gear. Thus, switching to the 16T actually made my 1st gear a useful gear again! To underscore my point, I just finished riding the Colorado and Utah sections of the Trans-America Trail with steep mountain passes, and didn't have any trouble doing so with the 16T front sprocket. The extremely technical sections might have been slightly easier with a 15T front sprocket? But I had no trouble at all with the 16T. And the benefits the rest of the time far outweighed the couple instances where it might have helped. Still, it's something to be aware of, as you pointed out!
I recently up geared my Versys 650 and it is 100% better for my riding style. I would have gone 16t front (from stock 15t) but it leaves barely any clearance. Instead, I dropped the rear 46t to a 43t for essentially the same result. Even though these motors are designed for high revs, I didn't like it and as mentioned in this video, first gear is almost useless (unless you're riding Trials?). The change is like adding a 7th gear; relaxed on the freeway. It also makes 1st through 6th gear much more practical and reduces the amount of shifting necessary. I highly recommend trying it for most people.
On my CBR500R went up to 16t front and down to a 41t rear (iirc that's -3) something like 11.5% taller gearing overall. Main reason I did it was for the freeway legs. Agree that stock 1st is almost pointlessly short anyways so there is very very little downside to this mod if any. Squeezes out a couple extra MPG too.
Thanks for the kind comment! Glad you enjoyed it. If you want to calibrate your speedo, here's all you need...just plug in and calibrate: SpeedoDRD DRD-3 from 12 oClock Labs - amzn.to/2Pahs8C.
Did this to my 94 CB1000 5 speed. Great upgrade! Lowered my rpm by 800 at 70 mph! Do have to pay attention to your speed though. Throws the speedometer off by over 5 mph. Ended up getting a ticket :(
That's fantastic! Glad you found similar results. And yes, you do have to be aware of the speedometer change. I just use the GPS mounted above my dashboard to make sure I'm not speeding. :-)
Lotta bikes have optimistic speedos and this mod tends to bring them closer to accurate. I know it did for me. Didn't do it for that reason, but I do like having a nearly dead accurate speedo.
Is there a chain guard available that's made to go with the 16 tooth sprocket? Wonder why Honda doesn't upgrade to the 16 tooth? They have some pretty damn good engineers. Just sayin'.
The stock chain guard works perfectly with the 16T sprocket. If you saw me grinding my chain guard down, it was because I had it installed upside down. OOPS!!! When I flipped it the correct way around, it worked perfectly. Also, the CB500X is made for many markets. I think for the American/Canadian/European markets, the 16T would be an advantage because we have nice paved highways and travel at faster speeds than in some countries. However, in other places like Africa, South America, and Asia, where you are often traveling on dirt trails or twisty mountain roads, the 15T makes perfect sense.
Thanks bigbadbobdunn! That's an excellent point, and has been discussed many times in the comments. This is definitely a mod to make the CB500X more comfortable on the street. However, I will mention that I've almost completed the entire Trans-America Trail on the 16T sprocket without any trouble, including summiting this steep and rocky 11,600-foot pass in Colorado: ua-cam.com/video/Im8M-tRJXuY/v-deo.html. So you can STILL ride off-road with this modification. But if you mainly ride off-road, best to keep the 15T sprocket size.
If you do much street and highway riding, I think you'll like the upgrade. If you want to calibrate your speedo, here's an easy plug and play solution: amzn.to/2Pahs8C
Cool video.I'm about to put a 16t on my v-srom650.Hopefullu the result will be as pos+ as your.My sprocket is not rubber backed,hopefully it will be ok without changing chain.
Hi Dennis! I know several V-Strom riders who have upgraded to 16T and been very happy. The rubber doesn't do anything except reduce noise...but I doubt it's really even noticeable. I changed mine without replacing the chain and had no problems. Ideally you would replace all three (chain, front, and rear sprockets) at once. But it won't hurt anything to replace one at a time. It just might wear the new component down slightly faster.
Hi Erica! Believe it or not, I made it myself out of an old badminton net post! I just chopped it to the right length, flattened the two ends, drilled holes in each end at the same location as the existing bolts, painted it black, and bolted it in place. I mounted my GPS on it using a bracket that I found while browsing the www.cb500x.com forum. Then I tied the GPS power into the switched OP Plug (Options Plug) located under the right side of the instrument panel. The instructions for reaching that were also discovered on that forum. So when I turn the key to start the bike, the GPS fires up, and when I shut it down, it turns off automatically. The phone (located below the GPS) is on a RAM X-Mount attached to the handlebar. I hope this helps!
Personally we don't like to change the GB sprocket . If you had put one tooth less Rear sprocket that was better for highway top end speed or open ur throttle for some rev fun . You may hurt ur bike crank soon .. Happy riding.
Thanks for the tip, Speedwell rider! I'll keep that in mind when it's time to replace. But for now, since hundreds of other CB500X owners have done the same modification without a single incident that I've heard of on any of the chat forums, hopefully I'll be fine. I've been extremely happy with the new gearing. And I just returned from a 4,500 mile adventure through Mexico on it with no issues. But I do appreciate the kind word of advice.
Hi Allen! Thanks for stopping by the channel. My buddy, Scott, who did the Blue Ridge Parkway trip with me, just picked up a CRF300L as well. As you can see in our video, he rides a CB500X for his longer trips: ua-cam.com/play/PLMpCu16Bx7xP6kirQ7TMs-ZWiYqEwF1PT.html. But he loves the combination of having the smaller bike for dirt riding! Have fun...and enjoy some of our travel videos. This was one of my favorites: ua-cam.com/video/1nMIH2yxRR8/v-deo.html. :-)
Thanks for the video. My understanding from looking at the gear commander website is that a 16 tooth front sprocket on the CB500X causes the same chain links to cross the same teeth on each revolution, which accelerates wear. Just something to keep in mind. Because of that I'm considering a rear sprocket swap to a 39T. Based on all the comments here I'll probably change the chain a front sprocket at the same time.
If you check the video description, I linked to a device that will recalibrate your speedo. Here it is: SpeedoDRD DRD-3 from 12 oClock Labs - amzn.to/2Pahs8C. You just remove the left side panel and plug it in. Then go through the recalibration steps. And bobs your uncle...everything's back to perfect! I personally have not done it yet since I always use my GPS, which shows the correct speed all the time.
Just done this to my 2020 CB500x and it is AWESOME. The engine is much more relaxed, and the vibration zone at 5000rpm has been cut significantly, also it seems to virtually disappear by 5500rpm. Cannot tell how much better it feels, but I stick to the tarmac mainly, so if you do Green lane, maybe think twice.
I have had my 2017 cb500x since Jan of 18 with 6 miles on it. Unfortunately due to health reasons,I have only put 1500 miles on it. I have now been cleared by my back surgeon to ride . Glad to know I'm not the only one that doesn't like the gearing. Thanks for the video. I noticed that you had a gps and phone on your bike , how is that wired? I didn't think a bike this little could handle all that. I got mine because it is little( I haven't ridden bikes since the late 80's and gps ,phone Ect. Was not even a thing. ) I had inline 4's and the charging system was junk. Could you point me in the direction of how to wire these devices up without killing the system and burning the bike to the ground. Any inf would be greatly appreciated. Doe to my situation,I stayed away from motorcycle videos because it depressed me. Thinking I would never ride again( the 120/130 mph shanagins were out of my system mostly) I have loved bikes since I was 12 (1972) Now that i have chance to at least put around while camping I'm all fired up ready to explore. Now I am bending on motorcycle videos. I am going to order that sprocket . I think it was geared more for off-road and I am not going to push my luck out jumping stuff( I know me) we like to visit small towns looking for BBQ ind local dives for that great Burger. A gps would make that more fun and safer. Thanks again for the video, I gotta go order a sprocket.
Hi Marshall! Thanks for the comment. The CB300X is an awesome bike for what you're doing. Although I've done a lot of major off-road trips like the TAT and the MABDR...I've also done a lot of riding to BBQ and Burger joints! Here's a full playlist on the CB500X I think you'll enjoy: ua-cam.com/play/PLMpCu16Bx7xP_DfFjhRG9np5cXTO-1uNY.html&si=ISlvyTzEyytTd6PA. And here's a fun trip we took along the Natchez Trace Parkway, stopping at some of the most AMAZING eateries in the south: ua-cam.com/play/PLMpCu16Bx7xMC7UWnKwbRjGPJOaXGn8RG.html&si=Al3JIO-GcdOALFIN. As far as your direct question, the CB500X actually has a VERY robust electrical system! It has plenty of overhead "juice" for you to run a dedicated GPS, charge your phone, plus power a GoPro charge AND a drone charger in your tank bag all at the same time. I know because I did that all the time on most of our adventures...and never got stranded or "killed" the electrical system. My devices were almost always connected to a "switched" power cable. Here's a video I did about the original GPS on my CB500X: ua-cam.com/video/0x4pZ6Of70c/v-deo.htmlsi=YkURQt7UjNMP5drl. Unfortunately, I didn't discuss the electrical connection. But here's the GPS install video on my Aprilia Tuareg 660, in which I go into great lengths to show how to find "switched" power and tap into it for your electronics: ua-cam.com/video/AsFbkLwNu2M/v-deo.htmlsi=7yeww0WCNjhaXdh4. I hope this helps! Please subscribe and stay tuned for more videos to come...
Glad you liked the video. Yes, this will fix her bike right up! I had a little highway-time in the saddle today, and the new sprocket just makes it SO much nicer at speeds!!!
IMO the factory does a pretty good job of getting the gearing right, but you are probably right about this one. I would probably do the same. If you like it, I don't think you can go wrong especially going taller.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment, Dar Tice! I agree. Everyone has different preferences. If it makes you happy to do, than do it. If it makes you happy to leave the stock setting, then leave it. :-)
Well, I conquered the Trans-America Trail...including this hairy section up and over Cinnamon Pass: ua-cam.com/video/Im8M-tRJXuY/v-deo.htmlsi=DyK2E4hB2AYB-LOl. All that was with the 16T front sprocket. It wasn't ideal for the rougher sections like this. But it sure was nice on those looong stretches of "nothing" in Oklahoma! 🤣 If you do a lot of off-roading, stick with the 15T front sprocket. If you do a lot of highway riding, go with the 16T. If you want the BEST OF BOTH, go with the 41T Rear Sprocket like I did in this updated sprocket video: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.htmlsi=evdb6RYlo6P-UrMU. That actually turned out to be my favorite.
It appears the torque wrench was used to break the sprocket bolt loose. I ask because that can cause issues with the calibration of a torque wrench for future use.
Nice video Chris but I couldn't help notice that your chain has multiple stiff spots. For safety concern, it should be change. Your old front sprocket shoes lots of wear too. I could not see clearly the rear one but the tooth seems pointy. If so, this would the best time to change your chain and rear sprocket before you ruin your new front one.
@@MotoPhotoAdventures It may not be worn out but it has many hot spots where the links are like frozen. Look at 4:10 and you will see at least three links that are frozen. Your chain should be straight but you can see some links are staying up or down. Check at 7:25 the link behind the wire. It should not be that way. The chain may overheat and break if you keep using it that way. It does look very dry too. Maybe you cleaned it good before the video though.
I've so got to do this on my Honda Rebel 500. 1st gear is so short it's a joke. And the RPM's on the highway is just extra wear on my motor for no reason. Right now it's just to torguey, I'm never going to do wheelies on my Rebel anyway it's just a waist of fuel running so high RPM.
Sounds like a great plan, Scott! A friend of mine owns the Rebel 500. It uses the exact same engine as my CB500X. One could argue the CB500X needs the shorter first gear for technical off-road riding. But there is zero argument as to why the Rebel would need such a short first gear. I think you will transform that bike into a much more user-friendly machine if you make the switch. Good luck!
Awesome video :). I am researching this bike and I am really leaning towards it but the fear was the highway performance. I am not a speed demon so speed is not a big deal 95% of the time and highway is not a necessary for most of my riding but I wanted the option.... just in case but didn’t want the trade off of a heavier, harder to handle bike for the majority of my riding. This seals the deal and confirms my decision. I’m not a big guy and getting up there in age so I am looking for a bike that I can feel confident on while still being capable of some light adventure excursions. Thanks again for this great video!! 2021 CB500X, here I come 😁
Hi Steadman! Glad I could help. I'm not a big guy either, and pushing 52. So we're in the same boat. I'm telling you, with this simple change the CB500X is an AWESOME bike!!! I've ridden it all through Mexico, the Blue Ridge Parkway, and even on an off-road adventure along the Trans-America Trail. It's very capable of whatever you throw at it...and just so much fun to ride! Here's a clip from Mexico: ua-cam.com/video/rkOk9hXHaoY/v-deo.html. I hope you'll subscribe to the channel and watch the whole series. Also watch the Trans-America Trail series...you'll love it!
I’d like to know what the end result was re the grinding down of the safety plate. After watching your video, I’m definitely wanting to do the upgrade, but I don’t want to get myself in a bind.
Hi Daniel! Not to worry. It was my fault. I had installed it upside down, causing the chain to rub. Once I flipped it right-side up, it turned out I didn't need to grind it at all! For more detailed install instructions, and an alternate option to the 16T upgrade, check out our 39T rear sprocket video: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.html. If I was mostly doing highway riding though, I'd stick with the 16T front sprocket!
That's awesome, Bill! I hope my video was helpful. I would imagine many of these Honda models are similar, and probably even share parts. Enjoy your upgrade! :-)
@@MotoPhotoAdventures The sprocket on the CB300R looks different but the procedure to change it is exactly the same, after the change the RPMs are around 1,000 less than before. Thanks for sharing your video and have a safe ride!
Hi John! The speed meter is connected under the panel on the left side of the bike. I put a link in the notes under the video of everything you need if you want to re-calibrate your speedometer. It's a simple device that you plug in. Here is the link: SpeedoDRD DRD-3 from 12 oClock Labs - amzn.to/2Pahs8C. Also, here is where to order the front 16T sprocket: JT Sprockets - amzn.to/3uRj4D6. I love how much smoother my CB500X is with this upgrade!
Привіт всім.Я купив свій байк HONDA CB500X 2023 новий із салону і відчув відразу,що потрібно замінити зірочки(я це знав!!!) Але ще хотів знайти відео і переконатись,що я був правий. Щиро дякую за відео. Буду замовляти зірочку та міняти. Бережіть себе 🙏🙏🙏🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🫡🫡🫡🏍🏍🏍
Congratulations on your new CB500X!!! I'm glad you found our video. It's easy to change the sprocket. You should check out our other CB500X sprocket video. It offers another option. You can find it in our CB500X playlist, which has many videos about accessories and maintenance. Enjoy!!!
Absolutely! All you need is one of these devices that you plug into a port under the left-side plastic panel of the bike: SpeedoDRD DRD-3 from 12 oClock Labs - amzn.to/2Pahs8C. A lot of owners buy them even without the sprocket changes, since sometimes the bike's speedometer isn't accurate from the factory, or isn't accurate because they put knobby tires or a different sized tire on. Have you checked your speedometer against a GPS unit? You might find it's actually not very accurate! Some riders even report changing to a different sprocket size actually made their speedometer MORE accurate! Personally, I have a Garmin Zumo GPS mounted to my dash and I use that as my speedometer. But if you want to really calibrate your speedometer, just buy the SpeedoDRD and you'll be all set.
You said in the beginning of the video you’re a good friend Scott sent you the sprocket. Called Honda they don’t have a 16 tooth available. Could you please share where you can get a 16 tooth sprocket for a 2022 Honda CB 500 X? Thank you. Great video!
Oh no!!! I'm so sorry Tosh. Always check the Description on our videos. We try to put links to products in there. Here's the link to the one I use: JT Sprockets: amzn.to/3uRj4D6.
@@toshkonya1419 what a small world! My wife, Cami, if from Troy. She was at Troy High-School from 83-86. Both my dad and my uncle taught at Wittenberg University. And my niece played soccer at Wittenberg. Once you get to Springfield, make sure you detour south to Yellow Springs for an amazing milk-shake at Young's Jersey Dairy!!! 🙂
Not really. This engine is already so efficient, changing a tooth on the sprocket produced no noticeable change in my opinion. But of course, I didn't do a scientific study on it! 🙂
I know I'm way late to the gate on this video but why did you opt for the front sprocket instead of the rear? Going down in the rear 2-3 teeth has the same effect and you would have saved yourself a crap load of work with all that grinding and disassembly. When my chain shows me it's ready to be replaced I usually replace my sprockets at the same time. Usually on any given bike you can go up or down the front or rear one size, giving you six sprockets to play with combination-wise. I'm not a fan of changing the front sprocket because it throws off the speedo, and in a lot of cases you can't recalibrate that.
Hello Wabbit! Thanks for the great comment. Your are correct, either works. I did not anticipate having to grind the chain guard...and as I've mentioned several times in previous comments, it turned out to be completely unnecessary. Problem was, I had re-installed it upside down! :-( In actuality, changing the front sprocket is cheaper and easier. To change the rear sprocket, you have to remove the axle, take the entire wheel out, undo the 5 bolts that are usually torqued WAY TIGHT, then re-assemble it all. I've changed my rear sprocket a couple times. And at least on my bike, it's much easier to do the front, and about half the price of a rear-sprocket. As far as the speedo being off, my factory guage wasn't accurate to begin with. I've always just followed my GPS for an exact speed indicator. But there are two companies that make good Speedo Healers, which I have linked to in the notes under the video. At almost 50K on my CB500X, I'm currently on my second 16T front sprocket (with new chain and rear sprocket too). This combination just works great for my style of riding. But next time I might try going back to a 15T front and dropping the rear by a couple teeth just for comparison. There are many paths to Nirvana. It's up to each individual to pick what works for them. This is just one path that I offer for others who are interested in trying it out. :-)
I haven't experienced that. If anything, the bike got smoother with the new sprocket since most of the time I'm reving at lower rpm due to the upgrade.
Hello everyone, I think front mast bee original 15 and back 40, it's perfect... I tried 16 and originak back 41, it's not comfortable. Honda cb500x 2022 model.
Thanks for the comment. Everyone has a different riding style, and different terrain to ride on. Set your bike up with the gearing that works best for you, and make your life an adventure!
Hi from Greece, congrats for the very nice video presentation, I own the 2014 white CB500X ABS, with 102000 km. I feel the revving up in any speed, maybe not so much on the 5th gear, but certainly on the 6th, but, how does the bike respond with a passenger on? As it is (15T sprocket) it is already heavy in the city and not so much accelerating with a passenger on, I guess 16T with 2 people on it will suffer and this is the main reason I have not done it already. Can we overcome this (increasing the HP somehow....) so that the heavier weight (2 people) does not have such an effect? Thank you.
Hello Markos! You are so lucky. Greece is such a beautiful country. I have not been yet...but my wife says she will take me to visit one day. :-) I think with a passenger, the 16T upgrade is not recommended. However, we did another video using a 39T rear sprocket instead. I think this might be a good solution to try: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.html. Unfortunately, many have tried adding horsepower to this little bike...and it just isn't easy to do. If you need more horsepower, you just need a bigger bike. But you can try the 39T upgrade first. It's very easy and inexpensive. I love it even more than the 16T front sprocket upgrade! Good luck, my friend.
The factory gearing on my CB300F is too low for my liking, so I went with a +1 front sprocket. I belive the change was from 15 to 16. So much to my liking, but I have to be a bit more cautious when passing in the oncoming lane. There isn't much power left to pass if highway crusing in top gear.
For Beginner bike riders. I wouldn't recommend changing sprockets right away, in the beginning. Maybe even tight traffic commuting. It can be helpful in the slower 1st. gear start out. Or have the crawl mode. When traffic is very slow. ADV. riders= It's nice to have 15t sprocket for tight spots and climbing hills. Better than burning up your clutch. Yes, 16t sprocket is great for the higher speeds. If you are doing it most of the time. As for video! Looks as chain and sprockets are very worn. Should never put new sprockets on old worn existing components. Cool comparison though!
Thanks Dave! Those are all excellent points. And I completely agree! Although I DID do the entire Trans-America Trail, including some pretty gnarly stuff on Cinnamon Pass (ua-cam.com/video/Im8M-tRJXuY/v-deo.html), with this 16T setup. Although I don't really recommend it. ;-) Thanks for the great comment!
@@MotoPhotoAdventures Super Cool! Trans-America trail. That would be great to try that some day. I will be checking out your video. Thanks! I would imagine getting a bike loaded up full of gear. 15T would make it better. As you said, 16T it's do-able though! Better to have some good riding experience. Main thing is to ENJOY !
@@dave8456 you are absolutely correct! Whether you have a 14, 15, or 16T drive sprocket...it really doesn't matter. Just get out and ENJOY THE RIDE!!! :-) P.S. The TAT is amazing! Put it on your bucket-list.
Thanks NorCalGoldenStateCycles! That is sage advice, my friend. I do indeed normally abide by the ATGATT moto, and have 3 great pairs of gloves. I'll do better!
I kept telling my friend the same thing, not for riding but for maintaining job. He said a nylon pair was enough until he had his thump cut clean off by the chain.
You could cruise at that speed until you run out of gas no problem. I did it across Texas on my way to ride through Mexico...over 600 miles in one day.
It's funny how your speedo is out compared to your GPS. As I read in most cases (maybe it's a European /UK model thing) that when you change up to a 16 tooth front sprocket it brings the accuracy of the speedo and the GPS to be spot on, as the speedo has always been out reading around 4% higher Regarding the bike's recorded mileage would that be affected too being our speedo is now out ?
Yeah, I don't think the speedometers on these bikes are terribly accurate from the factory. Changing the tires, changing the sprockets, and many other things can affect the accuracy even more.
Hi Nate! You should check out our other video about the 39T: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.html. It goes into more detail about the percentages and such. I personally wouldn't combine both. The 16T alone makes a significant drop in rpm. Any further adjustment beyond that would probably sacrifice too much torque. That's why I switched to a 15T/39T combination. It actually gives back some of the low-end torque for off-roading, while giving a minor reduction in rpm on highways. But if you mostly do pavement and only go offroad occasionally, I think the 16T is the way to go.
One comment about sprocket changes... Many people say gearing a bike down gives it more torque and more acceleration in all of the gears. While this is true to some extent (butt dyno), in an apples to apples test it is not. By that I mean suppose someone "gears up" their bike so that the new 5th gear is identical to their previous 6th gear. Let's call those configurations N5 vs. O6 (New 5 vs. Old 6). If you are driving at say 60 MPH in N5, you will likely experience the same exact performance as you have in O6. This is not always the case but more than not it is. An exception would be bikes that have different power mappings in different gears so in that case, the O6 might slightly "win" if the 6 speed bike doesn't put out full power in 5th gear (some bikes do that). The most annoying thing to me on some bikes is how close the bottom and top gears are. On some bikes, the difference is close to 2:1. That is, the top speed in 1st gear is almost half that of top gear. If I designed a motorcycle gearbox, I would make that more like 3:1 so riders could have a very low 1st gear (with the option to start in 2nd if they are drag racing for example), and have a nice tall highway cruising gear (with a widely spaced 5th gear for 1 gear quick downshift passing). Those are my pet peeves with modern day motorcycles. Many bikes have very close 5th and 6th gears and this is the exact opposite of what I want. What is the point of having those gear so close? A gap of maybe 20% between 5th and 6th makes more sense to me. Then in city driving, you wont need to use 6th, it would be mostly for highway.
Welcome but I hope the motorcycle manufacturers see it and do something about it. They should sell 2 versions of sportbikes with 1 important difference... the track version should have closely spaced gears, and the street version would have wider spaced gears. If some people complain that they like 6 closely spaced gears on a streetbike, then why not keep those as is but add a very tall 7th gear for highway? Some cars have 10 gears so why are we "stuck" with only 6 on motorcycles?
I fully agree with that great description. I guess anyone could have riding conditions that favor the close ratio gearbox; I'm an older dude now and am thrilled with the more practical wide ratio.
Cars come with options when you order them new, so why don't motorcycles have optional gearboxes (wide or close ratio)? They try to make one set of gears work for both and it turns out to be half ass. I used to have a 2004 Kawasaki ZX-10R and when I shifted from 5th to 6th on the highway, I could hardly tell I shifted. The RPMs dropped maybe 500 if that. Perhaps instead of designing 2 completely different gearboxes, to save money but to satisfy both track and street riders, have an optional "street" vs "track" 6th gear. I would for sure get the street one. Also, a "crotch" rocket" with a "spread" of 3:1 (difference in ratio between highest gear and lowest), would be awesome. You would have a low 1st gear for stop and go rush hour traffic so you wont wear your clutch much, a reasonably low 2nd gear for drag racing starts (to help prevent wheelies), and a nice tall 6th gear for gas mileage when you don't want to make any aggressive moves (that is what 5th gear on the highway would be for). 6th gear should be significantly higher than 5th gear so a shift from 5000 RPMs in 5th gear would then drop you to 4000 RPMs in 6th gear at some speed (perhaps 60 MPH). That would be a crotch rocket I would be happy to ride. Yes I agree wide ratio is certainly more practical. It is the same for pedal bicycles. 3:1 on a bicycle is certainly better than 2.25:1 (difference between bottom and top gears).
as a retired motorcycle mechanic, the first thing i noticed on the video was that the chain had stiff links in part due to wear and lack of lubrication, the next thing was how hooked the front sprocket was that you took off, so the rear sprocket was probably in the same condition which in my opinion requires a change in both sprockets and a chain, by fitting just one sprocket it will tend to wear quickly to match the wear in the chain and rear sprocket, as you said you are lacking in the knowlege that iv'e accumulated over many years, i'm not trying to put you down in anyway, just trying to be helpfull, good luck.
Thanks for the informative comment, Stephen! I truly appreciate it. The chain is actually less than a year old. And I'm pretty regimented about lubbing it every 500miles (Chain Wax), and doing a thorough cleaning every few thousand. So I was quite perplexed when another reader pointed out the kinks in the video. I contacted the store I bought it from. Being less than a year old, the thought DID would surely replace it under warranty and gave me their contact info. I'll be reaching out to them this week. The rear sprocket is actually in pretty descent shape. I'm pretty gentle on the throttle. But it's next on my list. Thanks again for the sage advice, my friend!
i just thought you needed to know, i normally lubricate my chains after a ride or two (depending on the conditions and the weather i'm riding in ) while the chain is still warm from use then wiping off the excess afterwards the day after, i myself use chain wax on occasion but prefer a more oily lubricant most of the time, don't believe everything the marketeers throw at you, iv'e used gear oil, chain saw oil and whatever iv'e had to hand, as long as it is lubrication it's ok, it's the throw off factor that is important to some people they and i don't like cleaning thrown off chain lube off the back end of the bike, every day is a school day, good luck.
Great tips,@@stephenkinsley2483. Thanks!
just because the front sprocket is worn does not mean the rear is anywhere near as bad as the front rotates on average 3 times as many times as the rear
Thanks for the comment,@@jimbo-me2sp! I never thought about it that way.
After riding from Germany to Portugal and back on the Trans Euro Trial, one great key feature on the CB500X is that low 1st gear. Riding often standing and going slow on routh terrain, through river beds and on steep hills, that proofed to be important ... always depends on the way of usage.
This is very true!!!
I have 1 in Crete I ride in the mountains, stock 1st gear is fine. I have 1 I ride in UK, as soon as I rode it there I noticed how short 1st gear was! I'll fit a 16T on the uk one.
I love the versatility of this bike. Being able to swap gear ratios makes it even MORE adaptable!!!
Ich will die gleiche route fahren im Sommer. Hast du tipps welche Anbauteile ich benötige? Motorschutz Blech, Sturzbügel (Oben unten?), welchen reifen bist du gefahren?
@bitparlee7120 vorne Heidenau, hinten Continental tkc80, ohne Bashplate aber mit Motorschutzbügeln seitlich, Handguards und Tubeless-Flickzeug.
Viel Spass auf dem TET & Obacht vor Pyrenäen- Hunden in den spanischen Dörfern!
Hi all. Did the Mod with the front sprocket on my CBR500R and it has worked wonders. The speedometer now reads exact. I just did a major long-range highway trip and the motor was working a lot less hard at 70mph. Much more usable and better mileage. This works really well.
That's great to hear! Glad we could help.
Im confused as to why Honda did not include the 16tooth sprocket. I think I will consider this change when I need to replace my chain. Thank you for this video, still very useful.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful. I believe the reason why Honda does not include the 16 tooth sprocket is because in many countries there are not large interstates like we have in the west. Many of the countries where this motorcycle is marketed have very curvy, mountainous, or dirt roads where the 15 tooth sprocket is more appropriate.
It's because this bike is not intended for highway riding. It is marketed as an allrounder. This change may work wonders on the smooth road at high speeds but it is not so good for off-road riding. And Honda sell this bike telling that it can handle off-road too.
@@Goeker much appreciated insights shared, thank you.
I recently put a 16T on my 2013 CB500F and I'm so glad I did. Now I ride it every day as a commuter bike and I save my ZRX for the long weekend trips.
That's awesome! Glad it's working out well for you.
So do i
I just purchased the 16T sprocket and ready to install in my 2013 CB500x. I haven't driven it much so it only has about 5,000 miles on it. My question is: did you have a problem with the chain guard fitting with the new 16T sprocket? Did you have to get it ground off a little, or did you just leave it off? I'd like to determine that before I take it apart. Thanks
Thanks very much for the instructional video. With the new 16 tooth sprocket, each gear feels like it is operating in the range that was meant to be. With the original 15 tooth sprocket, first gear was so short and jerky. Much more usable and smooth now. Truly a worthwhile mod!
-If I may add one bit of advice to folks who are about to do this: In order to remove the top part of the gear shift linkage, pull the small bolt out COMPLETELY -do not just loosen it, as the linkage will not come off otherwise (don't ask me how I know!) -Happy riding folks!
That's awesome! I'm glad you're enjoying this new modification. I have to admit, I chuckled at your piece of advice...clearly learned through experience. 🙂 Excellent tip!!!
I didn't know this was a thing and now going to get me a 16t sprocket!!!! Thanks for the video, both inciteful and helpful!
Glad we could help! You might want to also watch Part 2 where we show another gearing option by changing the rear sprocket...plus tons of other tips in our CB500X playlist!
This is wonderful. I am using my CB500X mostly for commuting on the Interstate, so this is really something I am going to try myself. Thanks!
That's awesome! It'll be perfect for your situation. Here's the link: JT Sprockets: amzn.to/3uRj4D6. It's an easy and inexpensive upgrade!!!
Did this to my 500X. By far the 16t sprocket was the best single change to the bike.
- cheap
Thanks for the great comment, Lorne! I'm glad you were as pleased with your upgrade as I was with mine. :-)
@@MotoPhotoAdventures how does the change affect the fuel consumption?
Hi @@allanlao5172! Unfortunately I've never kept good records of my fuel mileage. So I have no records to compare it against now that I've made the change. Many have speculated that this upgrade should provide slightly better fuel economy. But to me, just the fact that the engine isn't working as hard at high speeds makes the whole upgrade worth it!
@@MotoPhotoAdventures thanks Chris for your reply and for the video
Hey lorne I'm in Canada aswell so when i do 128km/h by gps I'm actually doing 120 so speed will be corrected with the 16t sprocket right?
I have the same engine but on a 2020rebel 500
You CAN ALSO drop the rear tooth by 2 teeth (equal to a 1 tooth increase on front sprocket)... I have done a double sprocket mod on many bikes I've owned (1 tooth up on front AND 2 less teeth on rear), it made a big difference, it lengthened the 1st gear, lowered revs in 6th on highway speeds, helped with vibrations in various riding situations, helped with fuel economy, and generally helped with a smoother ride. HOWEVER, I would advise that the double sprocket mod should really be done on bikes that have enough power to deal with mod, so a modern 500cc bike upwards. I've done the double sprocket mod on an 80's Suzuki GSX400f Katana, Bandit 600, Kawasaki ZX10 B2, Suzuki RF900RW, Kawasaki ZR-7, a mate even did it on his Kawasaki KLR650, and he found it helped in many ways.... Ride Safe, Ride Free People 😎😎😎
Great comment, thedarkknight1971! Several viewers have found dropping to a 39T rear sprocket is similar to increasing to the 16T front on the CB500X. I'm not sure I'd do both since the engine really doesn't have much "oomph" once you reach higher speeds in 6th gear. Maybe if you lived in Kansas where the roads are long and flat? ;-)
@@michaelbigelow3255 "Performance" figures. They usually set the gearing depending on the balance of economy and performance but depending on models they'll lean towards the latter to help sales...
👀Thanks for the welcomed advice !
CB500X 2022, new owner.
Hi Emmanual! You're very welcome! You should also watch this video I did more recently: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.html. After years of experimenting with new gearing, I think the 39T rear sprocket is now my FAVORITE setup for this bike!!! But if you mostly do highways or commuting on pavement, the 16T is still my second-favorite choice. Enjoy your new bike!
I have the 2020 cb500x i put a 16 tooth front sprocket on after watching this video the best upgrade I've done many thanks
That's awesome, John! I'm glad you like it. :-)
Great video Chris!! The maths is simple. Drive sprocket teeth / Driven sprocket teeth = speed ratio. The % change caused by changing drive or driven sprocket teeth will increase or decrease speed respectively and the inverse effect by the same % will occur on torque and acceleration. Enjoyed your video and replies to people's comments; humble and sincere responses!
Thank you, kindly, Jerry! I appreciate the information, as well as the encouraging words.
You get just over a 6% decrease in RPM with the sprocket change IE about 300 RPM at 60MPH, 15/16= 93.8 so if you had 4900 RPM at 60mph before then you'll have 4900 x .938= 4594 RPM. Nice improvement
@@dralexmclean thanks for those math skills!
An excellent presentation, just completed changing my 15T for a 16T, thanks to this vid a piece of cake.
Awesome! Glad we could help!
I'm happy we could help!
Thanks mate. I have a 16tooth rubber dampened one on order, currently waiting on it's arrival.
No problem 👍. You're gonna love it!
My experience with Honda always has been to go +1t up front and -3t at the rear. It's about the same as +2t up front.
Gas mileage goes up, vibrations go down.
Also gear spacing is not affected by a sprocket change, because all you do is shift each gear by a percentage. The spacing is still exactly the same percentage as before.
Sounds awesome! Thanks for the tip.
Do you have a product recommendation on a -3t rear?
@@JGPT1681 sorry I haven't tried any smaller rear sprockets. Wish I could help!
Thats what i was thinking as well. If you need to mod something, just do the 1 to 3 ratio and change rear sprocket. Just go up 3. Slightly more expensive for a rear versus the front, but only by a few dallors. Speedo must be mounted on the transmion for it to change the actual speedo reading. Which isnt really a big deal once you figure out actual speed. Since 100% of bikes from Japan are intentionally set to read faster than actual speed. Due to legality issues in the passed. Was going to buy a CB since im older now. But actually put money down to ve the first person to own the New KTM 490 Adventure. The dealer was shocked since the bike isnt even built, but only 10% down. And its refundable.
@@drzrider3440 I hope you got your money back!
Thanks for your response on FB, Ive bought a 16 tooth, probably fit it tomorrow. Very useful video Chris.
You're very welcome Dr. Campbell! Enjoy... :-)
Have you tried it yet? What's your opinion? Thanks.
@@tiagofigueiredo2529 I have bought one, but not got around to fitting it yet, my garage is a bit cold this time of year, soon. Looking forward to the change.
@@tiagofigueiredo2529 I just returned from a $4,500 mile trip down through Mexico and back with the 16T front sprocket. AMAZING riding in Mexico. The sprocket did great! Check it out at: ua-cam.com/video/s8Av65qL_mY/v-deo.html.
Thanks for your insights.... I think when the drive chain & Sprocket are ready for replacements, I will consider swooping out. Thanks again.
I'm glad you liked it, Robert! Yes...no need in wasting a good chain and sprockets. When it's time for a new set is the perfect opportunity to upgrade. You should also watch our companion video about the 39T upgrade: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.html. It goes into a lot more detail than the first one.
Awesome! First time I have ever seen anybody show the RPM at speed I looked so long for a video like this what a great comparison
Thanks Rjeepster! I'm glad you liked it. Check out some of the other great videos on our channel. If you like what you see, consider subscribing! :-)
I noticed He did the baseline test was using the speedometer and after the swap he used his GPS which was a 7mph difference. Pre swap rpms at 70mph(speedometer reading) were 5,800rpm; after swap rpms at 73mph (80mph on gps) he said was just blow 6,000 rpm. So on the speedometer the rpms between 70-73mph before and after the swap was maybe 50-100rpm, that's pretty negligible. I would like a taller 1st so I may end up doing this for that reason alone.
Mine was off 2mph when I geared up my 250 rally from a 14 to a 15 🦷 and also 2 mph off when I went from a 15 to a 16 🦷 on the CB500x...
Good to know, George! A lot of guys have installed one of these to correct the speedometer: SpeedoDRD DRD-3 from 12 oClock Labs - amzn.to/2Pahs8C. I just use my GPS to guage my speed. Thanks for watching!
I have a 2018 CB500 FA.
12 months ago I changed the front sprocket to a 16T and rear to a 41T.
My local dealer did this for me.
I also went to a 112 link chain.
I don't regret it. It turned my bike to almost new bike.
Top end I find it performs better, not so much buzzing from the bike.
The down side, not as quick off the mark and instead of 370km per tank of fuel I get 330(approximately). I did a rally recently with all my gear, about an extra(30kg) on the bike as well and the bike preformed just as good if not better than if it was just me.
Anyone thinking about changing sprockets go for it.
Just my 2 cents from a kiwi rider
Thanks for that great comment, Peter! Btw, absolutely LOVED New Zealand when we visited. Cheers!
I tried to jam different wrenches not the rear sprocket to lock the wheel but wasn't having any luck, I watched a different video where he put a 2x2 through the back wheel and used the swingarm to lock, that worked great both to loosen and tighten. I had no problem with the safety plate being in the way, weird.
Absolutely! That's a great tip. You might want to watch our newer video: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.html. I demonstrate that technique (using a wooden handle from a hammer) and walk you through a complete chain and sprockets replacement. More importantly, I share why after two years of using the 16T drive sprocket, I found an even better solution.
I put a 16T on my 650 Vstrom it geared the same as the SV now. Much better on the road.
It also allows you to use the lower gears for longer when accelerating and is generally a more relaxed ride.
I totally agree! It definitely gives a more relaxed ride.
Lots of CB500X reviews talk about that vibrating in the handlegrips and foot peddles over 6,000 revs, but I think you've just shown us the fix - great vid!
Thanks Paulie TV! It certainly helps. This is one of my favorite upgrades on my CB500X for sure!!!
When you did the 15T evaluation, you used the indicated speed rather than GPS -- at indicated 80 MPH the GPS showed 83. So part of the reduced engine speed you observed going to 16T is that you were going 3 MPH slower than you were with the 15T.
Thank you for the high quality video. Stay safe!
You're very observant, Thirsty Fox! Thanks for the note, and for the kind words of encouragement. Have a great day!
@@MotoPhotoAdventures Interestingly motorcycles here in Canada all seem to be about 5-7% optimistic in their speed readings. Might be an attempt to get people to go more slowly. Surprised to see yours was a few % slower than GPS speed.
Anyways, might see if I can do this 16T mod to my CBR500R. Should bring the speed a little closer to actual, in my case. Take care and safe riding!
Wow, I didn't actually know our speedos were so accurate! People always complain about the speedo difference, but ~3.5% slower at 80mph than GPS is pretty good!
I've used chain wax for years, and have found that on a cold chain the links can appear "kinked", but after brushing and spraying on new lube it looks good as new!
What I always look for while brushing is loose rollers; that and chain slack tells me when it's time to replace it.
My 2 cents... LOL
Thanks for the comment...great advice!
I installed a JT 16 tooth on my 2018. Should have done it right away! Finally a useable 1st gear!!!
Glad you like it, John! Please click the Share button so other Cami CB500X owners can discover the benefits too!!!
I’ve changed this on my 2020 today . Been for a 30 min spin and I’m presently on the fence as to whether I like it or not. Definitely longer legs but don’t feel as peppy as it did . Will have to suck it and see for a while.
Obviously it depends on what kind of riding you do. But if you do a fair amount of commuting or distance riding, I think you'll really like it once you get used to it!
Lube that chain. Does look like you need a new chain and rear sprocket now
Absolutely!!! 🙂
Man dude thank you for the advice I put one on my CB500X a week after I bought it but mine is not the solid I bought the one with the rubber insert in the middle from JT sprockets. I've only written it through my neighborhood but it seems to be a big difference
I'm glad you like it, George! It certainly transforms the bike, doesn't it?
Great video! Thank you for your time!
Glad you enjoyed it!
If i remember my motcross days front sprocket 1 tooth change is equiv to 4 teeth on back.
@Moto Photo Adventures I finally did it 2 weeks ago and made my first bigger trip yesterday.
Its a totally different bike now 😎 ... 70kmh in 3rd gear when i was normally in 4th or 5th before already
GREAT Idea, best change on my bike so far. I used the rubber supported 16er
That's awesome, Mos Kito! I'm glad you love the new setup as much as I do. Enjoy!!!
@@MotoPhotoAdventures absolutely and every time more
I did the same swap (15T to 16T) on my RE Himalayan with the same benefit. My speedo runs off of the front wheel, so no calibration problems.
That's awesome, John! Glad it worked as well for you. :-)
Sprockets affect the relationship between engine rotation and tire rotation. Speedo would only be affected if your tire (tyre) diameter was changed.
glad you made a video out of this. Also glad you didn't ruin it with music. I have the Rebel 500 and It's geared too low with the 15T sprocket.
Glad you liked it! Enjoy your updated Rebel. 😁
I had a 16 on mine, went back to 15 again, it feels much more dynamic on 15
Couldn't agree more. :)
@@irishrover63 that's awesome! To each their own. That's one of the beauties of the CB500X...you can customize it to fit your style of riding! :-)
Thanks for the kind comment, Prestonesfpv. I certainly appreciate that some would prefer to keep that low-end grunt.
Do you know in numbers the lost of torque?
Excellent video! best MOD for CB500x 2021, No Need Modification at all ( Drive chain guide ) super easy.
Thanks a lot!
If one rides mainly in flat areas, it makes a lot of sense to change the gearing to reduce rpm's. On the other hand, if one does off roading or lives on a mountain, it's probably not a good idea as you want o get the most out of those 48cv. Enjoy the bike!
I totally agree, Marcos! Thanks for the kind comment.
Yo Chris, American 65 year old man in the Philippines waiting for my 2022 cb500x to arrive at the dealership. The 1 improvement I can't find here is a 16 T sprocket. I've got a box of accessories but no bike yet 😢. Sure would like to find a 16 toother !
Hi Rick! That's awesome. I bet you love the Philippines. I've heard it's a great place to retire!!! Pretty cool that you're getting a new 2022 CB500X. The improvements on the new model look awesome. Have you tried ordering the 16T from JT Sprockets in Europe? You might also consider keeping the 15T front sprocket and getting a smaller 39T rear sprocket. Check out this video where I explain the difference: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.html. I'm actually using this setup right now and I think I like it even better than the 16T front?!? But you better check compatibility because the 2022 might have a different bolt pattern for the rear sprocket. Good luck and ENJOY!!!
CB500x is a fantastic bike. I converted mine to the Rally Raid stage 3 kit which includes suspension, and spoke wheels. I use the bike mostly for back County riding so having lower gearing is better for me riding off road. What I love about the CB is its twin cylinder so even with the 15t sprocket at 70mph it is still smooth as silk.
Daniel Pearson you live in gods country! I have to travel 10 hours to get where you are. Have you ridden the Gifford Panach forest? I spent a week there love it. I could spend 3 months in those states and still not see it all!! Enjoy!
I totally agree, Bill! The "X" is indeed a fantastic bike, and very customizeable to different rider's tastes. I'd love to do the RR kit some day. Glad you enjoy yours!
Thanks for the video on the upgrade, byvthe way, where can i get the 16T sprocket? Cheers
Glad you enjoyed it! Here's the one I've been using: JT Sprockets: amzn.to/3uRj4D6. This is for the 2013-2018 model CB500X. I think it fits newer models as well. But you'll want to double-check that. Enjoy!
I have a 2016 model. I changed the 15T for a 16T front sprocket over a year ago. It's a great mod. Also, on my bike the speedo used to read too high, but now is quite accurate when comparing to GPS. This is strange, as you say yours is out of calibration, but yours is a later model which may explain this. Ride safe.
Thanks for the kind comment, Graeme! I'm glad you enjoy your modification as much as I enjoy mine. By the way, I have a 2013. While it is strange that our speedometers were different, I've heard there are a lot of variations from the factory. Plus, factors like which tires you are using affect the accuracy of the stock speedometer. Anyway, get out and enjoy your bike!!!
Graeme Evans, was yours reading pretty much exactly 10% over before the swap? I've got a 2015 and I'm wondering what will happen to my speedo reading if I swap to 16T. Mine is currently reading 10% over, if yours was the same there's a good chance it'll make mine more accurate too.
@@dom252 Yes I think it was about that. I'm in the uk. It seems likely speedo readings are exaggerated by manufacturers depending on the country. All the same, the 16T makes for a better ride. I would only recommend keeping the 15T if you ride off road.
@@graemeevans2608 Perfect, yeah I'm UK as well. Already pretty much sold on the mod but was wondering if it'd cause calibration headache. But sounds like it might make it better!
Thanks for the response. I have looked at a few of the links you suggested, am working on checking the all out. I am struggling with the auxiliary lights. I want them on the high beam switch, and want to find the ( blue wire to trigger the relay, if that is the correct way.). I can't find the factory plug. I want to use douitch plugs .
Thanks for taking time from your day. I'm sure you have more important things to do.
Hi Marshall! Always happy to help, my friend. Unfortunately I didn't install my lights on the high-beam switch. So I have no knowledge of how to wire it that way. I can't think of any situations where you would want to turn those off. The more lights you have on, the better you can see. But more importantly, the better other drivers can see YOU!!! Hopefully someone on the www.cb500x.com forum could help you out? Cheers...
Thanks I have put them on a handlebar mounted switch . After careful thought about what you said, it makes sense to have them on a separate switch so I can turn them ON in daylight hours and off at night when not wanted. I was thinking different, thanks for your input. In 2 months I’ll be 64 and I have finally learned to LISTEN to /think about what people say, and not have a knee jerk reaction. I learned that and to be THANKFUL instead of bitchen about everything about 5/6 years ago. I’m a lot happier now.
As for as for the cb500x forum, I joined them when I first got mine but I forgot my username and password and don’t know how to fix it. I’m not good with a computer ( I am at my limit with what I’m doing now, I’ve been trying for 10 minutes on this comment 😂😂😂 just found that face thinner button recently ) but 2 years ago I would not have even thought about thought about more than 5 word comments. So I’m getting better. No typest but can use 2 fingers now. As long as I don’t accidentally touch something and delete the whole thing.
Thanks for getting my mind right.
That's awesome! Glad I could help. And glad you're a happier version of you?!?
Finally on october the first I arrived in Thailand. The bike now has got the 16 T sprocket and I can say I passed from a coffee grinder to a swiss clock. Been riding 1500 km in 49 hours to reach Udonthani( 21 hours on the saddle) and I have not regrets. I respected the 90 km/h speed limit and most of the time the engine revs at 4000 rpm. Now I still have to find a guy who can correctly adjust the speed on the clock by adding the speedo calibrator . This is a quite expensive device as it costs 4 times the price of the 16 T sprocket
Yesterday I also made mods on my fork with the YSS upgrade kit which makes a great difference on handling and braking,the suspension is firmer.
That's awesome, Didier! I bet you had a fantastic adventure!!!
When I left Udonthani alone I had to use my phone navigation app Maps for the first time of my life. I was quietly riding along the paddy fields when I suddenly realize that Maps gives the GPS speed. And guest what? When the speedometer on the clock indicates 90 km per hour the GPS shows 89 km per hour.
A few day before when riding to the Mekong river at Nongkhai i was riding with my buddy Marc who gets also a 2018 500X . With my 16 T sprocket my speed was 93km per hour when Marc’s speedo indicated 97 km per hour ( with the original 15 T but a bigger rear tyre 150/70/17). I am so happy to say if you upgrade to the 16 T sprocket your speed on your clock will be the real GPS speed. In fact the speedo with the original 15T is about 5 percent higher than reality. I have a brand new 12oclocklabs speed calibrator for sale...
That was very useful information for me. I'll do that mod on my CB500F for sure. Big thanks Moto Photo Adventures!!!!
You're very welcome, Tom! Check out some of our other useful videos about this bike. Most of them apply to all 3 variations!
did this mod to my old 600 transalp and will now do it on my 2016 v strom 650.i like a low revving bike.
That's great, Peter! I'm glad you found it worked for you as well. :-)
torque at every RPM will be 6% less (15/16). For those who plan a little off roading, they might want the stock 15T for more torque when on difficult steep terrain. I love the CB500X. had 2013, switched to a Versys 650, want to go back to CB now!!
Thanks for the nice comment, Jim! I looked at the Versys too. But the CB500X was just right for me. You should come back!!! :-)
BUT the new 2019 model got an 4% torque improvment, so the overall loss will be 2%. The benefits are so obvious that makes an apsoloute worth upgrade
Changing the front or rear sprocket to drop engine revs does have a downside in that it makes the bottom gear taller, therefore, having to use more clutch slip pulling away, particularly on hills.
Thanks for the excellent insight, Barrie! This is true. And if you live in a very hilly area, or ride rough off-road trails a lot, it's not something I would do. However, the CB500X has an extremely short first gear to begin with. Personally I found it almost useful in my relatively flat part of the country. In fact, I often just pulled away from stop lights in 2nd gear. Thus, switching to the 16T actually made my 1st gear a useful gear again! To underscore my point, I just finished riding the Colorado and Utah sections of the Trans-America Trail with steep mountain passes, and didn't have any trouble doing so with the 16T front sprocket. The extremely technical sections might have been slightly easier with a 15T front sprocket? But I had no trouble at all with the 16T. And the benefits the rest of the time far outweighed the couple instances where it might have helped. Still, it's something to be aware of, as you pointed out!
I recently up geared my Versys 650 and it is 100% better for my riding style. I would have gone 16t front (from stock 15t) but it leaves barely any clearance. Instead, I dropped the rear 46t to a 43t for essentially the same result. Even though these motors are designed for high revs, I didn't like it and as mentioned in this video, first gear is almost useless (unless you're riding Trials?). The change is like adding a 7th gear; relaxed on the freeway. It also makes 1st through 6th gear much more practical and reduces the amount of shifting necessary. I highly recommend trying it for most people.
Thanks for the encouraging comment, Firesail! I'm glad you're enjoying the upgrade as much as I am. :-)
On my CBR500R went up to 16t front and down to a 41t rear (iirc that's -3) something like 11.5% taller gearing overall. Main reason I did it was for the freeway legs. Agree that stock 1st is almost pointlessly short anyways so there is very very little downside to this mod if any. Squeezes out a couple extra MPG too.
Thanks for sharing! Glad you're enjoying the new setup.
That's good to know about MPG!
could similar effect be achieved if rear sprocket was smaller?
Absolutely! Here it is: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.htmlsi=ygz9Wq-SgpkQPR4H
Awesome video, did you get the speedo calibrated again for the new sproket? How did you do that? Dealer or yourself?
Thanks for the kind comment! Glad you enjoyed it. If you want to calibrate your speedo, here's all you need...just plug in and calibrate: SpeedoDRD DRD-3 from 12 oClock Labs - amzn.to/2Pahs8C.
Did this to my 94 CB1000 5 speed. Great upgrade! Lowered my rpm by 800 at 70 mph! Do have to pay attention to your speed though. Throws the speedometer off by over 5 mph. Ended up getting a ticket :(
That's fantastic! Glad you found similar results. And yes, you do have to be aware of the speedometer change. I just use the GPS mounted above my dashboard to make sure I'm not speeding. :-)
Lotta bikes have optimistic speedos and this mod tends to bring them closer to accurate. I know it did for me. Didn't do it for that reason, but I do like having a nearly dead accurate speedo.
2013-15 has speed sensor on front wheel...this gear change will not effect the speed reading...
Is there a chain guard available that's made to go with the 16 tooth sprocket? Wonder why Honda doesn't upgrade to the 16 tooth? They have some pretty damn good engineers. Just sayin'.
The stock chain guard works perfectly with the 16T sprocket. If you saw me grinding my chain guard down, it was because I had it installed upside down. OOPS!!! When I flipped it the correct way around, it worked perfectly. Also, the CB500X is made for many markets. I think for the American/Canadian/European markets, the 16T would be an advantage because we have nice paved highways and travel at faster speeds than in some countries. However, in other places like Africa, South America, and Asia, where you are often traveling on dirt trails or twisty mountain roads, the 15T makes perfect sense.
@@MotoPhotoAdventures Thanks for the response/info.
The only thing that I thought should be mentioned is, if you do a lot of off - road riding you might appreciate the lower gearing at times.
Thanks bigbadbobdunn! That's an excellent point, and has been discussed many times in the comments. This is definitely a mod to make the CB500X more comfortable on the street. However, I will mention that I've almost completed the entire Trans-America Trail on the 16T sprocket without any trouble, including summiting this steep and rocky 11,600-foot pass in Colorado: ua-cam.com/video/Im8M-tRJXuY/v-deo.html. So you can STILL ride off-road with this modification. But if you mainly ride off-road, best to keep the 15T sprocket size.
Hi there, i will definitely consider swopping out once the chain decides it's time.
How would you calibrate the speedometer though?
If you do much street and highway riding, I think you'll like the upgrade. If you want to calibrate your speedo, here's an easy plug and play solution: amzn.to/2Pahs8C
Cool video.I'm about to put a 16t on my v-srom650.Hopefullu the result will be as pos+ as your.My sprocket is not rubber backed,hopefully it will be ok without changing chain.
Hi Dennis! I know several V-Strom riders who have upgraded to 16T and been very happy. The rubber doesn't do anything except reduce noise...but I doubt it's really even noticeable. I changed mine without replacing the chain and had no problems. Ideally you would replace all three (chain, front, and rear sprockets) at once. But it won't hurt anything to replace one at a time. It just might wear the new component down slightly faster.
Where did you get your accessory bar and phone mount? I’ve been looking for one for my 2014 cb500x
Hi Erica! Believe it or not, I made it myself out of an old badminton net post! I just chopped it to the right length, flattened the two ends, drilled holes in each end at the same location as the existing bolts, painted it black, and bolted it in place. I mounted my GPS on it using a bracket that I found while browsing the www.cb500x.com forum. Then I tied the GPS power into the switched OP Plug (Options Plug) located under the right side of the instrument panel. The instructions for reaching that were also discovered on that forum. So when I turn the key to start the bike, the GPS fires up, and when I shut it down, it turns off automatically. The phone (located below the GPS) is on a RAM X-Mount attached to the handlebar. I hope this helps!
Personally we don't like to change the GB sprocket . If you had put one tooth less Rear sprocket that was better for highway top end speed or open ur throttle for some rev fun . You may hurt ur bike crank soon .. Happy riding.
Thanks for the tip, Speedwell rider! I'll keep that in mind when it's time to replace. But for now, since hundreds of other CB500X owners have done the same modification without a single incident that I've heard of on any of the chat forums, hopefully I'll be fine. I've been extremely happy with the new gearing. And I just returned from a 4,500 mile adventure through Mexico on it with no issues. But I do appreciate the kind word of advice.
Thanks for the instruction and the information.
It was very helpful.
I’m thinking of getting a CB500X.
Just bought the CRF300L Rally.
Rock On
Hi Allen! Thanks for stopping by the channel. My buddy, Scott, who did the Blue Ridge Parkway trip with me, just picked up a CRF300L as well. As you can see in our video, he rides a CB500X for his longer trips: ua-cam.com/play/PLMpCu16Bx7xP6kirQ7TMs-ZWiYqEwF1PT.html. But he loves the combination of having the smaller bike for dirt riding! Have fun...and enjoy some of our travel videos. This was one of my favorites: ua-cam.com/video/1nMIH2yxRR8/v-deo.html. :-)
@@MotoPhotoAdventures Thanks. I’m looking forward to watching your TransAm Trail episodes.
@@0HARE I hope you like it! It's a fun one...especially the episodes out west!!!
Thanks for the video. My understanding from looking at the gear commander website is that a 16 tooth front sprocket on the CB500X causes the same chain links to cross the same teeth on each revolution, which accelerates wear. Just something to keep in mind. Because of that I'm considering a rear sprocket swap to a 39T. Based on all the comments here I'll probably change the chain a front sprocket at the same time.
Thanks for the great information, Sqeptick! That is very good to know. Much appreciated!
Can you show gow did you recalibrated the speedo? Thx mate
If you check the video description, I linked to a device that will recalibrate your speedo. Here it is: SpeedoDRD DRD-3 from 12 oClock Labs - amzn.to/2Pahs8C. You just remove the left side panel and plug it in. Then go through the recalibration steps. And bobs your uncle...everything's back to perfect! I personally have not done it yet since I always use my GPS, which shows the correct speed all the time.
Just done this to my 2020 CB500x and it is AWESOME. The engine is much more relaxed, and the vibration zone at 5000rpm has been cut significantly, also it seems to virtually disappear by 5500rpm. Cannot tell how much better it feels, but I stick to the tarmac mainly, so if you do Green lane, maybe think twice.
Thanks for the comment, GBPaddling! I'm glad you like it. 🙂
Where did get the sprocket?
@@jillybean1108 Ebay
@@GBPaddling Thank you
@@jillybean1108 if you check the description, I have a direct link to it.
Big thanks, such a great positive change mate, well done.
Glad you enjoyed it
I have had my 2017 cb500x since Jan of 18 with 6 miles on it. Unfortunately due to health reasons,I have only put 1500 miles on it. I have now been cleared by my back surgeon to ride . Glad to know I'm not the only one that doesn't like the gearing. Thanks for the video. I noticed that you had a gps and phone on your bike , how is that wired? I didn't think a bike this little could handle all that. I got mine because it is little( I haven't ridden bikes since the late 80's and gps ,phone Ect. Was not even a thing. ) I had inline 4's and the charging system was junk. Could you point me in the direction of how to wire these devices up without killing the system and burning the bike to the ground. Any inf would be greatly appreciated. Doe to my situation,I stayed away from motorcycle videos because it depressed me. Thinking I would never ride again( the 120/130 mph shanagins were out of my system mostly) I have loved bikes since I was 12 (1972) Now that i have chance to at least put around while camping I'm all fired up ready to explore. Now I am bending on motorcycle videos. I am going to order that sprocket . I think it was geared more for off-road and I am not going to push my luck out jumping stuff( I know me) we like to visit small towns looking for BBQ ind local dives for that great Burger. A gps would make that more fun and safer.
Thanks again for the video, I gotta go order a sprocket.
Hi Marshall! Thanks for the comment. The CB300X is an awesome bike for what you're doing. Although I've done a lot of major off-road trips like the TAT and the MABDR...I've also done a lot of riding to BBQ and Burger joints! Here's a full playlist on the CB500X I think you'll enjoy: ua-cam.com/play/PLMpCu16Bx7xP_DfFjhRG9np5cXTO-1uNY.html&si=ISlvyTzEyytTd6PA. And here's a fun trip we took along the Natchez Trace Parkway, stopping at some of the most AMAZING eateries in the south: ua-cam.com/play/PLMpCu16Bx7xMC7UWnKwbRjGPJOaXGn8RG.html&si=Al3JIO-GcdOALFIN. As far as your direct question, the CB500X actually has a VERY robust electrical system! It has plenty of overhead "juice" for you to run a dedicated GPS, charge your phone, plus power a GoPro charge AND a drone charger in your tank bag all at the same time. I know because I did that all the time on most of our adventures...and never got stranded or "killed" the electrical system. My devices were almost always connected to a "switched" power cable. Here's a video I did about the original GPS on my CB500X: ua-cam.com/video/0x4pZ6Of70c/v-deo.htmlsi=YkURQt7UjNMP5drl. Unfortunately, I didn't discuss the electrical connection. But here's the GPS install video on my Aprilia Tuareg 660, in which I go into great lengths to show how to find "switched" power and tap into it for your electronics: ua-cam.com/video/AsFbkLwNu2M/v-deo.htmlsi=7yeww0WCNjhaXdh4. I hope this helps! Please subscribe and stay tuned for more videos to come...
Thanks Chris nice video, my wife's CB500X is great just a little buzzy on the highway this could be the fix.
Glad you liked the video. Yes, this will fix her bike right up! I had a little highway-time in the saddle today, and the new sprocket just makes it SO much nicer at speeds!!!
@@MotoPhotoAdventures thanks mate
IMO the factory does a pretty good job of getting the gearing right, but you are probably right about this one. I would probably do the same. If you like it, I don't think you can go wrong especially going taller.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment, Dar Tice! I agree. Everyone has different preferences. If it makes you happy to do, than do it. If it makes you happy to leave the stock setting, then leave it. :-)
thanks for the video. What about off road performances with new modification?
Well, I conquered the Trans-America Trail...including this hairy section up and over Cinnamon Pass: ua-cam.com/video/Im8M-tRJXuY/v-deo.htmlsi=DyK2E4hB2AYB-LOl. All that was with the 16T front sprocket. It wasn't ideal for the rougher sections like this. But it sure was nice on those looong stretches of "nothing" in Oklahoma! 🤣 If you do a lot of off-roading, stick with the 15T front sprocket. If you do a lot of highway riding, go with the 16T. If you want the BEST OF BOTH, go with the 41T Rear Sprocket like I did in this updated sprocket video: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.htmlsi=evdb6RYlo6P-UrMU. That actually turned out to be my favorite.
@@MotoPhotoAdventures thanks a lot, it is a great ide !
Nice gloves man! I heard of those aren't they the new degloved pair of gloves heard there great for skin graphs?
HAHA!!! :-)
It appears the torque wrench was used to break the sprocket bolt loose. I ask because that can cause issues with the calibration of a torque wrench for future use.
Hi Kris! Thanks for the tip. I did not know that!!!
Just dropping a torque wrench can make it off.
Nice video Chris but I couldn't help notice that your chain has multiple stiff spots. For safety concern, it should be change. Your old front sprocket shoes lots of wear too. I could not see clearly the rear one but the tooth seems pointy. If so, this would the best time to change your chain and rear sprocket before you ruin your new front one.
Thanks for the tip, Claude! That chain is less than a year old. It shouldn't be too worn. But I will check it out, as well as the rear sprocket.
@@MotoPhotoAdventures It may not be worn out but it has many hot spots where the links are like frozen. Look at 4:10 and you will see at least three links that are frozen. Your chain should be straight but you can see some links are staying up or down. Check at 7:25 the link behind the wire. It should not be that way. The chain may overheat and break if you keep using it that way. It does look very dry too. Maybe you cleaned it good before the video though.
I've so got to do this on my Honda Rebel 500. 1st gear is so short it's a joke. And the RPM's on the highway is just extra wear on my motor for no reason. Right now it's just to torguey, I'm never going to do wheelies on my Rebel anyway it's just a waist of fuel running so high RPM.
Sounds like a great plan, Scott! A friend of mine owns the Rebel 500. It uses the exact same engine as my CB500X. One could argue the CB500X needs the shorter first gear for technical off-road riding. But there is zero argument as to why the Rebel would need such a short first gear. I think you will transform that bike into a much more user-friendly machine if you make the switch. Good luck!
@@MotoPhotoAdventures Thanks Chris but mainly I just want to do longer highway trips without it running so high.
Awesome video :). I am researching this bike and I am really leaning towards it but the fear was the highway performance. I am not a speed demon so speed is not a big deal 95% of the time and highway is not a necessary for most of my riding but I wanted the option.... just in case but didn’t want the trade off of a heavier, harder to handle bike for the majority of my riding. This seals the deal and confirms my decision. I’m not a big guy and getting up there in age so I am looking for a bike that I can feel confident on while still being capable of some light adventure excursions. Thanks again for this great video!! 2021 CB500X, here I come 😁
Hi Steadman! Glad I could help. I'm not a big guy either, and pushing 52. So we're in the same boat. I'm telling you, with this simple change the CB500X is an AWESOME bike!!! I've ridden it all through Mexico, the Blue Ridge Parkway, and even on an off-road adventure along the Trans-America Trail. It's very capable of whatever you throw at it...and just so much fun to ride! Here's a clip from Mexico: ua-cam.com/video/rkOk9hXHaoY/v-deo.html. I hope you'll subscribe to the channel and watch the whole series. Also watch the Trans-America Trail series...you'll love it!
I've just brought a 2022 ,great bike ,I have an ST1300 and XL1000v ,yes the 500x has a lot less power ,but the weight trade off is so worth it .
Great comparison, thank you for sharing, 👍
Glad I could help, Simon! I hope you'll subscribe and check out some of our other videos.
Thanks for that. I am considering the 500x more and more, but still debating whether the CB650 is a better choice.
I was in the same position and went with the 500x in the end…. The 650 is more powerful but that’s the only plus over the 500x….
I’d like to know what the end result was re the grinding down of the safety plate. After watching your video, I’m definitely wanting to do the upgrade, but I don’t want to get myself in a bind.
Hi Daniel! Not to worry. It was my fault. I had installed it upside down, causing the chain to rub. Once I flipped it right-side up, it turned out I didn't need to grind it at all! For more detailed install instructions, and an alternate option to the 16T upgrade, check out our 39T rear sprocket video: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.html. If I was mostly doing highway riding though, I'd stick with the 16T front sprocket!
From shade tree mechanic to leader of the pack all in one video, brilliant!!!
Hi Will! Thanks for the kind comment.
I was looking for the CB300R sprocket swap but it's a very similar operation.
That's awesome, Bill! I hope my video was helpful. I would imagine many of these Honda models are similar, and probably even share parts. Enjoy your upgrade! :-)
@@MotoPhotoAdventures The sprocket on the CB300R looks different but the procedure to change it is exactly the same, after the change the RPMs are around 1,000 less than before.
Thanks for sharing your video and have a safe ride!
Hi , where I'd the speed meter connected? is the the CB500X speed bo off if you replace sprocket ratio?
Hi John! The speed meter is connected under the panel on the left side of the bike. I put a link in the notes under the video of everything you need if you want to re-calibrate your speedometer. It's a simple device that you plug in. Here is the link: SpeedoDRD DRD-3 from 12 oClock Labs - amzn.to/2Pahs8C. Also, here is where to order the front 16T sprocket: JT Sprockets - amzn.to/3uRj4D6. I love how much smoother my CB500X is with this upgrade!
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Але ще хотів знайти відео і переконатись,що я був правий.
Щиро дякую за відео.
Буду замовляти зірочку та міняти.
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Congratulations on your new CB500X!!! I'm glad you found our video. It's easy to change the sprocket. You should check out our other CB500X sprocket video. It offers another option. You can find it in our CB500X playlist, which has many videos about accessories and maintenance. Enjoy!!!
If I make this sprocket change is there a way to recalibrate the speedo to show the correct speed? That'd drive me nuts.
Absolutely! All you need is one of these devices that you plug into a port under the left-side plastic panel of the bike: SpeedoDRD DRD-3 from 12 oClock Labs - amzn.to/2Pahs8C. A lot of owners buy them even without the sprocket changes, since sometimes the bike's speedometer isn't accurate from the factory, or isn't accurate because they put knobby tires or a different sized tire on. Have you checked your speedometer against a GPS unit? You might find it's actually not very accurate! Some riders even report changing to a different sprocket size actually made their speedometer MORE accurate! Personally, I have a Garmin Zumo GPS mounted to my dash and I use that as my speedometer. But if you want to really calibrate your speedometer, just buy the SpeedoDRD and you'll be all set.
You said in the beginning of the video you’re a good friend Scott sent you the sprocket. Called Honda they don’t have a 16 tooth available. Could you please share where you can get a 16 tooth sprocket for a 2022 Honda CB 500 X? Thank you. Great video!
Always check the description. I put direct links to the products I use. 16T drive sprocket: amzn.to/3uRj4D6
@@MotoPhotoAdventures Thank you 🙏
Where did you buy the 16T sprocket? I tried to make the swap this morning but the Vortex sprocket bought via Email has the wrong spline size.
Oh no!!! I'm so sorry Tosh. Always check the Description on our videos. We try to put links to products in there. Here's the link to the one I use: JT Sprockets: amzn.to/3uRj4D6.
@@MotoPhotoAdventures No reason to be sorry Chris and I enjoy your videos. I found a 16T sprocket on Ebay UK and it's on its way to Ohio now!
@@toshkonya1419 SWEET!!! What part of Ohio? I lived in Yellow Springs and Springfield area for many years (near Dayton). Enjoy the new sprocket!!!
@@MotoPhotoAdventures I live in Troy but ride to Yellow Springs often; in fact I'll be riding there with a pal on Thursday!
@@toshkonya1419 what a small world! My wife, Cami, if from Troy. She was at Troy High-School from 83-86. Both my dad and my uncle taught at Wittenberg University. And my niece played soccer at Wittenberg. Once you get to Springfield, make sure you detour south to Yellow Springs for an amazing milk-shake at Young's Jersey Dairy!!! 🙂
Is there much of a change in fuel economy with the 16 tooth sprocket
Not really. This engine is already so efficient, changing a tooth on the sprocket produced no noticeable change in my opinion. But of course, I didn't do a scientific study on it! 🙂
I know I'm way late to the gate on this video but why did you opt for the front sprocket instead of the rear? Going down in the rear 2-3 teeth has the same effect and you would have saved yourself a crap load of work with all that grinding and disassembly.
When my chain shows me it's ready to be replaced I usually replace my sprockets at the same time. Usually on any given bike you can go up or down the front or rear one size, giving you six sprockets to play with combination-wise. I'm not a fan of changing the front sprocket because it throws off the speedo, and in a lot of cases you can't recalibrate that.
Hello Wabbit! Thanks for the great comment. Your are correct, either works. I did not anticipate having to grind the chain guard...and as I've mentioned several times in previous comments, it turned out to be completely unnecessary. Problem was, I had re-installed it upside down! :-( In actuality, changing the front sprocket is cheaper and easier. To change the rear sprocket, you have to remove the axle, take the entire wheel out, undo the 5 bolts that are usually torqued WAY TIGHT, then re-assemble it all. I've changed my rear sprocket a couple times. And at least on my bike, it's much easier to do the front, and about half the price of a rear-sprocket. As far as the speedo being off, my factory guage wasn't accurate to begin with. I've always just followed my GPS for an exact speed indicator. But there are two companies that make good Speedo Healers, which I have linked to in the notes under the video. At almost 50K on my CB500X, I'm currently on my second 16T front sprocket (with new chain and rear sprocket too). This combination just works great for my style of riding. But next time I might try going back to a 15T front and dropping the rear by a couple teeth just for comparison. There are many paths to Nirvana. It's up to each individual to pick what works for them. This is just one path that I offer for others who are interested in trying it out. :-)
I have question sprocket 16 from Honda nc 700 it will be feet on the Honda cb500x
Yes. This is the sprocket I ordered and it works great.
Did anyone find it that the bike vibrates a little bit more than with the orinal sprocket ? I feel more vibration on the bar handles
I haven't experienced that. If anything, the bike got smoother with the new sprocket since most of the time I'm reving at lower rpm due to the upgrade.
I upgraded my cbr250r's 14Tooth to a 15tooth and I noted similar differences.
That's great, Gene! Thanks for sharing.
Great review just put one on my cbr500 well done thank you
Glad you liked it, Timothy! Enjoy your new gearing on the bike. :-)
Hello everyone, I think front mast bee original 15 and back 40, it's perfect...
I tried 16 and originak back 41, it's not comfortable. Honda cb500x 2022 model.
Thanks for the comment. Everyone has a different riding style, and different terrain to ride on. Set your bike up with the gearing that works best for you, and make your life an adventure!
Hello and thank you for you video
But you are not serious about gloves 🙂 were is it?
Hi Tahar! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I normally do wear gloves. Watch some of our travel videos! But thanks for your concern. :-)
Hi from Greece, congrats for the very nice video presentation, I own the 2014 white CB500X ABS, with 102000 km. I feel the revving up in any speed, maybe not so much on the 5th gear, but certainly on the 6th, but, how does the bike respond with a passenger on? As it is (15T sprocket) it is already heavy in the city and not so much accelerating with a passenger on, I guess 16T with 2 people on it will suffer and this is the main reason I have not done it already. Can we overcome this (increasing the HP somehow....) so that the heavier weight (2 people) does not have such an effect? Thank you.
Hello Markos! You are so lucky. Greece is such a beautiful country. I have not been yet...but my wife says she will take me to visit one day. :-) I think with a passenger, the 16T upgrade is not recommended. However, we did another video using a 39T rear sprocket instead. I think this might be a good solution to try: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.html. Unfortunately, many have tried adding horsepower to this little bike...and it just isn't easy to do. If you need more horsepower, you just need a bigger bike. But you can try the 39T upgrade first. It's very easy and inexpensive. I love it even more than the 16T front sprocket upgrade! Good luck, my friend.
The factory gearing on my CB300F is too low for my liking, so I went with a +1 front sprocket. I belive the change was from 15 to 16. So much to my liking, but I have to be a bit more cautious when passing in the oncoming lane. There isn't much power left to pass if highway crusing in top gear.
Hi James! That makes perfect sense. These aren't very powerful engines for passing. Glad you like the better gearing otherwise!
Thankyou for your video. i did the same thing on mybike and it's amazing! Thankyou very much.
From Vietnam!!!!
You're welcome, Phung! I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing your experience as well.
For Beginner bike riders. I wouldn't recommend changing sprockets right away, in the beginning. Maybe even tight traffic commuting. It can be helpful in the slower 1st. gear start out. Or have the crawl mode. When traffic is very slow.
ADV. riders= It's nice to have 15t sprocket for tight spots and climbing hills. Better than burning up your clutch.
Yes, 16t sprocket is great for the higher speeds. If you are doing it most of the time.
As for video! Looks as chain and sprockets are very worn. Should never put new sprockets on old worn existing components. Cool comparison though!
Thanks Dave! Those are all excellent points. And I completely agree! Although I DID do the entire Trans-America Trail, including some pretty gnarly stuff on Cinnamon Pass (ua-cam.com/video/Im8M-tRJXuY/v-deo.html), with this 16T setup. Although I don't really recommend it. ;-) Thanks for the great comment!
@@MotoPhotoAdventures Super Cool! Trans-America trail. That would be great to try that some day. I will be checking out your video. Thanks!
I would imagine getting a bike loaded up full of gear. 15T would make it better.
As you said, 16T it's do-able though! Better to have some good riding experience.
Main thing is to ENJOY !
@@dave8456 you are absolutely correct! Whether you have a 14, 15, or 16T drive sprocket...it really doesn't matter. Just get out and ENJOY THE RIDE!!! :-) P.S. The TAT is amazing! Put it on your bucket-list.
I wouldn't skimp on buying a pair of quality gloves. I have stories trust me
Thanks NorCalGoldenStateCycles! That is sage advice, my friend. I do indeed normally abide by the ATGATT moto, and have 3 great pairs of gloves. I'll do better!
I kept telling my friend the same thing, not for riding but for maintaining job. He said a nylon pair was enough until he had his thump cut clean off by the chain.
How long do you think you can do 80mph now? In case I go through Nevada.
Thanks for the video
You could cruise at that speed until you run out of gas no problem. I did it across Texas on my way to ride through Mexico...over 600 miles in one day.
It's funny how your speedo is out compared to your GPS. As I read in most cases (maybe it's a European /UK model thing) that when you change up to a 16 tooth front sprocket it brings the accuracy of the speedo and the GPS to be spot on, as the speedo has always been out reading around 4% higher
Regarding the bike's recorded mileage would that be affected too being our speedo is now out ?
Yeah, I don't think the speedometers on these bikes are terribly accurate from the factory. Changing the tires, changing the sprockets, and many other things can affect the accuracy even more.
did the combination of the 16T and the 39T sprockets make a difference or can it be done ?? or will it affect the torque of the bike ???
Hi Nate! You should check out our other video about the 39T: ua-cam.com/video/Je6LdgYt9fg/v-deo.html. It goes into more detail about the percentages and such. I personally wouldn't combine both. The 16T alone makes a significant drop in rpm. Any further adjustment beyond that would probably sacrifice too much torque. That's why I switched to a 15T/39T combination. It actually gives back some of the low-end torque for off-roading, while giving a minor reduction in rpm on highways. But if you mostly do pavement and only go offroad occasionally, I think the 16T is the way to go.
One comment about sprocket changes... Many people say gearing a bike down gives it more torque and more acceleration in all of the gears. While this is true to some extent (butt dyno), in an apples to apples test it is not. By that I mean suppose someone "gears up" their bike so that the new 5th gear is identical to their previous 6th gear. Let's call those configurations N5 vs. O6 (New 5 vs. Old 6). If you are driving at say 60 MPH in N5, you will likely experience the same exact performance as you have in O6. This is not always the case but more than not it is. An exception would be bikes that have different power mappings in different gears so in that case, the O6 might slightly "win" if the 6 speed bike doesn't put out full power in 5th gear (some bikes do that).
The most annoying thing to me on some bikes is how close the bottom and top gears are. On some bikes, the difference is close to 2:1. That is, the top speed in 1st gear is almost half that of top gear. If I designed a motorcycle gearbox, I would make that more like 3:1 so riders could have a very low 1st gear (with the option to start in 2nd if they are drag racing for example), and have a nice tall highway cruising gear (with a widely spaced 5th gear for 1 gear quick downshift passing). Those are my pet peeves with modern day motorcycles. Many bikes have very close 5th and 6th gears and this is the exact opposite of what I want. What is the point of having those gear so close? A gap of maybe 20% between 5th and 6th makes more sense to me. Then in city driving, you wont need to use 6th, it would be mostly for highway.
Thanks for your kind comment and insights, David!
Welcome but I hope the motorcycle manufacturers see it and do something about it. They should sell 2 versions of sportbikes with 1 important difference... the track version should have closely spaced gears, and the street version would have wider spaced gears.
If some people complain that they like 6 closely spaced gears on a streetbike, then why not keep those as is but add a very tall 7th gear for highway? Some cars have 10 gears so why are we "stuck" with only 6 on motorcycles?
I fully agree with that great description. I guess anyone could have riding conditions that favor the close ratio gearbox; I'm an older dude now and am thrilled with the more practical wide ratio.
Cars come with options when you order them new, so why don't motorcycles have optional gearboxes (wide or close ratio)? They try to make one set of gears work for both and it turns out to be half ass. I used to have a 2004 Kawasaki ZX-10R and when I shifted from 5th to 6th on the highway, I could hardly tell I shifted. The RPMs dropped maybe 500 if that. Perhaps instead of designing 2 completely different gearboxes, to save money but to satisfy both track and street riders, have an optional "street" vs "track" 6th gear. I would for sure get the street one. Also, a "crotch" rocket" with a "spread" of 3:1 (difference in ratio between highest gear and lowest), would be awesome. You would have a low 1st gear for stop and go rush hour traffic so you wont wear your clutch much, a reasonably low 2nd gear for drag racing starts (to help prevent wheelies), and a nice tall 6th gear for gas mileage when you don't want to make any aggressive moves (that is what 5th gear on the highway would be for). 6th gear should be significantly higher than 5th gear so a shift from 5000 RPMs in 5th gear would then drop you to 4000 RPMs in 6th gear at some speed (perhaps 60 MPH). That would be a crotch rocket I would be happy to ride. Yes I agree wide ratio is certainly more practical. It is the same for pedal bicycles. 3:1 on a bicycle is certainly better than 2.25:1 (difference between bottom and top gears).