Yamaha Tenere 700: 4-Year Truth Revealed!
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- Embark on a 4-year, 18,000km journey with my Yamaha Tenere 700! This candid review covers it all-from surprises to challenges. Dive into adventure setup insights and key features.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
02:10 Features
04:10 Suspension
05:58 Fuel Range
07:52 Weight
10:15 Reliability/Vulnerabilities
13:00 ABS
14:10 Why choose Tenere 700?
#YamahaTenere700 #Tenere700Review #AdventureMotorcycle #ADVLife #DualSport #MotorcycleTouring #OffRoadAdventure #YamahaMotorcycle #LongTermReview #BikeSetup #MotorcycleLife #TravelOnTwoWheels - Авто та транспорт
When you and Adam Reiman agree that the T7 is a keeper, that is high praise. Thanks for sharing your build and flogging.
Thanks Osimnod
Should I buy one ?@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
I bought mine 3 Years ago, primarily because I wanted a bike that would do everything, tour, commute, and some gentle ( Trail ) off roading. Before the test ride at my Local Dealer, I was pretty much convinced the T7 was the bike for me,. It just had to feel good to ride . 20 minutes into the test, I was amazed with the engine, for road riding it has all the power I need , I have ridden for years, so many machines - ( Years in Mototrcycle trade - easier to count which machines I have not ridden than those I have ) so around 70BHP is all i require. The general feel of the T7 is homogenous, everything working so well together, in just about any situation, 4 annual European tours later I still love the machine, and am hugely bonded to it. When you are thousands of miles from home, having a bike which you know WILL start and not fail you, is a massive attraction for me. I have fitted Akrapovic Siencer, H&B centre Stand, Kaoko Cruise Control, Addventure Screen adjusters and Yamaha Low seat option. Love it.
Thank you
How many km have you put on it now?
Only 18 thousand. But they have beeen diificult miles. @@kaiben3878
Looks like this is worst choice as a commuter. And all this quotes "Traction control is a gadget" turns often into painful experience on wet roads.
A friend gave me his T7 for a day tour. I never felt so good! I turned into a Dakar racer - it feels good on the road, gravel, and mud. Love it.
Great to hear!
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV still collecting for my T7
I've had my T700 since April 2020 and love it. The bike has now reached 65200 km. A lot of gravel road and 4 wheels road. I have never had a problem with this bike. I do the maintenance myself. It is an easy to maintain motorcycle. This bike never travels without the luggage except for my practice in the sand pit near my house. The total weight during my travels is 380kg (motorcycle, luggages and myself). This motorcycle is awesome.
Thank you for your report.
Thanks mate.
65,000 KMS is awesome... you've maxed the bike n some more .... awesome again
I weigh 80kg and found that the cheapest remedy for stock suspension, is to go a bit slower. I also have a slutty 250 that I ride most often, but the T7 is marriage material 😍
I agree about the rear brake. Its the weakest point on the bike, and it varies - especially if I washed the bike with unspecified cleaning agents.
I had to shorten the side stand out of the box, as the bike was not sturdy on the side stand.
I ended up lowering the suspension a bit, and then had to shorten the sidestand again!
If I ride like a christian, it gives me > 400 km/ Tank. But I agree with you, hard highway riding increase consumption to almost 5l/100. (The trip computer is pesimistic, and often report 6.6L, but when I fill up, I always get less than 5. (>20km/l)
I also love the simplicity. My mates on their "tech bikes" has learned that I dont wait for them to fiddle for traction or weather or estrogen levels, they can follow when they are done fidling. I save quite a bit of time. I always thought TC is that thing in my right hand..
Well said.
😂 estrogen levels
😜@@elgringoec
Brilliant mate , you’re got your priority’s sorted B&B
Priceless :)
Great video, I drive my Tenere700 since December 2019 and have now reeled off 40,000km.
I have rebuilt quite a bit, for example the HP-Corse High Exhaust.
I like my Tenere very much.
Cheers vom Germany
Thank you. 40,000 kms, now that's what I should have done.
Great video - really enjoyed watching it and share your sentiment. One of the reasons why I just got a T7 in addition to my 990 ADV.
That's a good mix.
Love your channel Dave . I had a tenere 660 and jumped to the ktm 990. But am seriously thinking about jumping back to a tenere 700. Keep up the good work. Thanks
Thanks Fred.
Great video, appreciate the approach you took with the information you want to convey!! Again, great job!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Keep up the great work. I look forward to your videos every time I see you uploaded one.
I appreciate that! Please tell your friends about MADTV, I need more subscribers! :)
Really appreciated this long term review, Dave, and I feel the same about mine! I have 10,000 miles on mine now and the most notable improvements I've made so far have been the tail-tidy, one-finger clutch, taller wind screen (like Clubby's), removed the OEM crash bars, but most importantly....changed out that rear brake lever to 'The Fix' by Camel ADV (awesome improvement!!). I got about 6, 000 miles on the original tires but have now changed them to the Motoz Tractionator GPS and really happy with that so far! I don't do a lot of mud, but for the gravel roads, water crossings, and tarmak they have been great! As always, thanks heaps for your great work!! Ride safe!
Thanks for those words
I love my T7. I tend to reach for my 701 more often but every time I get back on the t7 I’m reminded how amazing it is. Just a total joy to ride. If I had to have one bike that would be it. I’m keen to hear your WR thoughts in the coming weeks
I'm like you.
Excellent review...glad your T7 is a keeper! Very pleased with mine after 3 years, and although its considered a 'simple ' bike, in comparison to my XR650R it's a Rolls Royce! The engine is great...tractable, reliable and quick enough to have a blast when you want to. Love it!! Cheers Steve
Well said!
I own a Tenere 700 nearly a year now, and as a 1.90cm height and 100kg i only need to upgrade the suspension other than that pretty much is a 100% solid bike and i love it . Regards from Cyprus/Europe. Love your channel 🙌
Thank you. They are a great bike.
Agree, 184 and 103kg "dry". Only had to upgrade springs as i easily can bottom out stock ones. I have exhaust muffler raised with now a build in weak spot that isnt the frame. So when i fall, it isnt the frame that has bent, but only a piece of metal that i can replace.
And, the rearbrake, yes 100% agree, very weak.
@@Victor-cn3zj Camel ADV's 'The Fix' is an awesome improvement, IMHO!
How does the T7 compare with the klr.. sure like the looks of the T7...tnx...
As always a great review, honest as always. I was hoping to find one here in Canada, but had no luck given how rare they are. I ended up with a Aprilia 660, and it's definitely very good competition for the T7. Time will tell if it ends being as reliable. Keep up the good work! I really enjoy your posts! 😃
Thank you. I do like the Aprillia. Very impressive.
I think the Aprilla is a fantastic bike. If it was made by Yamaha, It would have been my choice, though I prefer the look of the T7. Enjoy her, and keep us posted on reliability.
Good vid Dave. Enjoyed. Tight fit mate. Pinch up at the swimming hole. I agree with you a 100% on this machine. It's my RTW bike for certain, hands down. Fuel mileage , dependability and simplicity are the sounding reasons for that. Yes, it has shortcomings but nothing I can't deal with or adapt to. My bike is my bike and no body elses. I have Ohlins front and rear made for me and my carry items. I got a hell of a lot of other items such as a Acerbis fuel tank and all kinds of protection guards and such. A lot of expense for sure but a lot are necessary. I feel Yamaha as many other Japanese makers sell a great basic machine at a market level od sales and at a price point. You get a really good frame and a wonderful motor with this to build your own way. I stock trim many will ride and do serious distance and it will be fine for them. At 67 almost 68 I want what I want and it be able to perform well beyond my limits. But when you need it most, you got it. A couple items, A Sargent heated seat, replaces my thinned out custom made Seat Concepts model and a new made rear brake lever from Camel ADV Products. A really good fix for a sticking loose rear factory brake lever. Try one, you won't regret it. They make top quaity components and are really the hreatest people to deal with. Riders they are. Check out their channel. Lot of riding the Desert X Duc in hell bent places out west. Now your comment on the rear brake, what do you think it is Dave? Is it the caliper, brake line, or maybe the master cylinder. Changing pads to another type, brand, does that help? Or is it just wrong? Thoughts. Now glad you and Clubby are getting the new to you and maybe never for me in USA, Raid model. I know it's going to take a while but you will be one of the first to ride both and hopefully extensively. I think I would like to have one given the lower C of G but my bike is mine. Hard to jump on another and do or feel the same. And that's not all. Those tanks take time to fill. And the support protection guard/band seems a throwback to the old Tenere mode; as it was equipped the same way. I've seen the Raid tricked out with all the factory options, pretty darn nice. All in time. You take care. Keep up the good work. Someone has to do it. Hope Clubby has a good safe ride up to the Snowy Mtns. Sure he will have a wild report on the Raid. Now for Nugget to test one.
Nugget too short :). Thanks Sam for your thoughts. That sound like a very well setup T700
I really do appreciate a lot about this youtube channel, but what I really appreciate is how these guys are real people riding their favorite bikes having real fun…
Thank you.
my absolute favorite bike. i've owned 10, probably go through more... but my Tenere 700 will never leave me. really loved the new Suzuki Vstrom 800... for adv, its a close second for me.
Both very good bikes. I was impressed with the Suzuki.
Perfect review of the T7.. I bought the Camel ADV rear brake lever and upgraded Galfer brake pads and my rear brake has come up to acceptable standards only , not great. Oh well. The bike is the most reliable of any ADV on the planet except maybe the Tenere 1200. That gives the rider nothing to worry about but what mods he wants to do and where he wants to ride.. which is fun!!
Agree
Thanks for all the great content you’ve made for the T7 Dave! Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
My pleasure!
trying to get myself one here in Texas Dave. I'm not sure if they're just not sending us enough of them or we are just buying them as fast as they can make them. Love the channel!
I reckon a standard one with some after market stuff and you'll do all right. But, as you say, you've got to get one first.
The Camel ADV brake fix will sort the brake feel. Works like a charm.
Yes, I've heard that.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTVDo it, 'tis worth it.
100% agree!
The Camel Adv exhaust kits are also a no-brainer!
what about some EBC *sintered* brake pads? .. doesn't change anything?
for me it did, so maybe.. ya know..
Great honest review of the Tenere, I'm a Tenere owner and can relate to the cons with the bike, however the rear brake can be fixed with the "The Fix" - T7 Rear Brake Pedal from camel adv. its a real game changer for that spongy rear brake.
Thanks for the info! There's a few recommending that solution.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV it fixed the rear brake issue for me as well.
Stiffer lever and more leverage by design, which leads to better brake feel, more subtlety and more power when needed. Cannot recommend more!
That’s all interesting.
I would have said the rear brake was wooden and lacking in feel and power.
I do have some nerve problems in my feet though.
Another reason for me to let the ABS do its thing.
“The Fix” is the fix. Be careful, you’ll probably lock up that rear brake the first couple of times.
The Camel ADV Brake Fix is the best mod you can do on a T7.
About to preorder the 2024 model at my local dealership still building my off road skills on the KLX300 till then.
Great video I definitely wouldn’t be ready for the level of difficulty of the trails you where doing in the video. But great to see it handling it well in it.
Good luck!
Probably best off keeping the KLX. 2 very different platforms, and if you’re new to riding, the 300 will much better suit your learning trials.
@@IdahoDualSport208 think you’re right
Dropped my KLX300 off for some mods
Gonna try off roading again next weekend if it doesn’t rain.
Hi Dave
Enjoying the video.
Heading east on the Barkley Highway, strong headwinds, two up with luggage I saw close to 10L/100km on my T7.
It’s just another challenge to overcome 😁
Yeah, there is a huge variance of fuel usage on the T700. The master for economy is Stephen Gall. I've been riding with him and he gets another 50 kilometres out of a tank. We call him the Tenere whisperer.
The extra range of the Raid edition wouldn’t go astray for sure 👍.
It sounds like a great update.
Great video and review. Thumbs up from Thailand!
Thank you.
love the video's. always a good day when you post a new one.
Glad you like them!
Great review Dave , yeap mines a keeper as well , safe riding mate 👍
Thanks
Hey just have to tell you I love your show!!!!!!!! Love motorcycle adventures!!!!! I'm terrible at shifting. But love watching riders who can. I once had a Honda CR 250. It was fun but my woman didn't want me having one. Plus shifting was difficult. Keep recording.
I'm about to have a partial knee replacement surgery coming up. I'll need your help to deal with my pain . Love Nugget Interesting fellow. The places you ride are phenomenal!!!!!!
Good luck.
Great honest video, thanks for sharing. Just liked and subscribed! Can I ask what you’re running for tires on your T7? What would you recommend after the stock tires wear out?
Firstly I'm sponsored by Pirelli. That aside I was using Pirelli before that. If you do lots of dirt, Pirelli Rally Scorpion on the front and the back doesn't matter that much..
Thanks for the content. Keep the shiny side up. Cheers
Thanks, will do!
Hey Dave
Thanks again for sharing
Years back we used take the ABS fuse out of the BMW F650… problem solved
If I recall the ABS light stayed on permanently but no more scares after stopping for a photo op or break only to realise you’d forgotten to turn it off on the next tricky corner or decent
Yep that sounds familiar. :)
Thanks for the nice video. Is there not a rear brake fix (camel). I love my T7 from the start 2019. In the end of 2022 i did make the switch to the WR....and i love that even more. I love the upgrades and the gearbox of that one is like butter!! It is a keeper. I sold my 2021 AT AS DCT that i owned next to it because i prefer the T7 WR.
Yes camel brake fix appears to be the best.
Great video Dave . I would like one of these but my BMW G650gs Sertao with upgraded suspension will do for now. Yes weight is a concern.
Yes it is.
Excellent bike Dave.
I really wanted a T-7 but couldn't get one here in the States when I needed a bike. I have the Standard 890, a 2022 and I'm loving it but all that tech worries me after the Pan America's numerous issues.
Happy trails!
I like the 890s even standard they have good handling and the engine is great.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV As a shorty I’ve been loving the 890 S. It fits me well and so far (knock on wood) totally reliable. Just rode it back from the shop for its 9,000 mile service and checkup. 🩺
@@pinkiewerewolf It's a great bike. If you search the channel for KTM New Zealand Rally there's some amazing footage as to where we took these bikes.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I’ll check those out to see if I missed some episodes. 👍
I wanted a t7 for years and when I finally had the finances to get one I ended up with a tuareg 660 instead due to availability. (Wait a year+ after orders or a few months) I absolutely love my Aprilia and have about 2.5k miles on it now. We only have one dealer in Washington State and they said mine was the first to be sold to a customer! I ordered it ASAP as soon as it was announced lol
Anyway, thanks for the video I still love the t7 and like seeing info about them
We've done a detailed review of the Aprillia on this channel. It's an outstanding bike.
I was really excited about the Aprilia until I saw the headlight. It killed the bike for me.
The suspension has been my biggest concern. I’m at about 104kg and I have found having the proper springs makes a huge difference. The springs are hard to come by still.
Thank you.
Great vid as always.
I found Pivot Pegz helped immensely with rear brake modulation .
Looks like new pedal is the answer.
I hear a lot of praise for the T7 and I was wondering how this compared with the Red variant, the Honda Africa Twin.
I hear a lot of good on both and interested on your read.
T7's seem to have a very strong second hand market and prices seem to be right up there.
The Honda known for it's bulletproof engine and seems though not to pull such a high price but again still not a cheapie.
Interested in your thoughts Dave.
I have tested both extensively and those reviews are on this channel. I like both bikes. he Honda has way better suspension out of the box.
Thanks for this review india doesn't have these options easily available especially anything above 250 cc n twin cylinder parallel or v ( no way ) ... am sure the RE HIMALYAN was inspired by the T700 .... but it comes nowhere close.. .. love watching the reviews and would love to spend about a year riding on the Australian outbacks ... thanks and keep posting.
Excellent video! Great bike!
Thanks! 👍
The weight and top heaviness has me sticking with my tried and true WR250R set up for ADV riding.
Just my two cents ,but if you can't do it on a T7 it's not really ADV riding more like enduro riding, ADV is meant to be a crossover, sure you can do long distance on a 250 but that would be a bit painful, they're great on the technicle stuff, but I'll keep loving my T7, and use my 450 for enduro.
Love the WRs but it's going to wear out. Wear to then... the CRF300? I agree the T7 is not for everyone.
I have the T7 and WR 250. I rode the Idaho BDR on the WR, plus the trip there and back. The WR is no T7 on the highway but the T7 is no WR on the trail. 6000 mile loop with 1300 of it on the trail.
I’ve found the ABS on the T7 pretty good except for serious low speed down hill
A lot of people agree with you Daryl.
Dave, I was watching your head position going up the hard stuff. Bike was going up, down and side to side but you heard was dead center no matter what. 👍
My parents were a pair of Owls. :)
I’m one of the guys that is still torn between the 901 Expedition and T7. The Norden has all the bells and whistles and much better package off the showroom floor. The lower CG is much more appreciated in tough handling situations, but there’s no denying that the CP2, agile handling, and reliability of the T7 just keeps it competitive in a fast growing market. The issue is, the price becomes negligent on the Yamaha after you factor in all the work needed to bring it up to speed with the others. Suspension, skid plate, seat, and crash bars and you’re already at 890/901 price range, without cruise control, traction control, and all the tech the euro bikes provide. Tough call…
It is.
Dave love your channel the cover on the t7 do they trap dirt and crap behind them ?think of putting some on my Africa twin It would be great to see you at the ABR in 2024 in the uk you would make a great speaker I could listen to your tails all day long
Yeah we are considering it.
Well, I signed for a 24' T7 this morning. I'm excited to get back on Team Blue. My first two bikes and a snowmobile were Yamahas, I'm getting back to my roots.
Bittersweet that I'll be selling the 890 but I've had the local shop going trough it and the next owner will be set to travel the World.
Time for the T7 mods to begin.
Front suspension first.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Suspension is high on my list. 👍
It's probably the best bike for international travel. Well I guess the best bike is the one you love, but this is the one I used without problem in Algeria.
Trouble free ride. That's what we want.
Awesome T7. Out of all your bikes Dave which is your favourite? Your 501 might be highest on my list.
Hold that thought. I'm going to do a fair dinkum comparison soon, maybe the next couple of months.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV fantastic! Can’t wait.
Touratec comfortseat onepiece, oem gilles break and clutch leaver, breaking disc rear, sintered pads, suspension upgrade, barkbusters, some good panniers ”mosko” stronger bash plate, oem crash guard, better tires”motoz rally is so good”, slip on , for Weigth saving. Maybe a lithium battery to .Better footpegs
And you have a bike for life!
And you can travel alone,
Bullet proof
I now 💰
Tried other bikes! But won’t change it for anything out there!
I
Thanks for that
Yamaha, we want a Tenere 850. Same weight as the T7, but with 100 hp, cruise control, TC, and upgraded suspension. I would buy one instantly.
We want a Tenere that weighs less! Too!
since I got my self a set of mx boots I started riding my t7 like my old 990adv, maybe the top heaviness made me worry more about my feet, not like 990 the weight felt very low down and I was fine with my forma adv.
I've owned 2 990s I agree.
Yes t7 too top heavy! I ditched mine for a de800
Had the chance to rip gnarly back roads and water crossings in Costa Rica on a T7 World Raid and it was perfect for the job!!
The WR has a slightly lower centre of gravity. A great bike.
That's exactly how I deal with the big tank on my ATAS - fill it half full when I need it to be nimble.
Pretty simple idea. It might catch on. :)
Thanx for All Things Tenere 👍
Bought mi T7 in 2020. My first Bike 😎
love it. ride it. drop it. pick it up. repeat.
My wife said: marry it and call her ‚Trude‘ since day one
Ha Ha
Basically have the same upgrades and agree with all the points. Bike I'm not planning to sell unless I have to
Yeah, once sorted they are a cracking bike.
I’m in the market for a mid sized Adv but I’m beyond confused with so many good choices. T7 isn’t near top of true list but that reliability is getting it closer up there. So far the Norden 901 Expedition is winning the 890R in 2nd place but man those prices.
Small car prices
I’ve been between the 901 and T7 for a while. The 901 provides all the creature comforts, but it will not be the same competition in the tough stuff off-road where the T7 shines. It will outperform the T7 for touring on pavement and long gravel trips, though. Have to decide what type of riding you’ll do most.
My favorite bike too ..... but I was thinking you are still on DR 650 !!!
Never had one.
I put on a high mount full exhaust and completely removed all the ABS system including the pump and ran new stainless brake lines.
Good but there is a break pedal solution that improves it beyond belief.
Love my T7 Rally One of the 1st in the UK
good bike
I am finding allot of t7's have air in the rear brake system. I use a vacuum fluid extractor to bleed brakes, but it's best to use the vacuum tool, and pump the brakes at the same time.
Not mine.
Really good Single track loop out there mate. About 35kms all up. Happy to show you if you ever want to take one of the singles for a squirt.
Thanks mate. I know it. I lived there until I was in my early twenties.
Essa nova motocicleta que aqui no Brasil ainda não temos pra comprar é a moto perfeita, eu tenho uma GS1200 AC 2012 e uma Ténéré 660 e sei que a T7 é essas duas juntas e melhoradas, a moto definitiva, a moto perfeita pra tudo, pra qualquer caminho, qualquer distância, qualquer destino, qualquer estrada, muito mais que qualquer outra moto no mundo. Essa é A MOTO e ponto final no assunto, perfeita para o Brasil e feita para mim. Talvez um dia ela chegue aqui, só posso rezar e esperar.
Espero que sim para você :)
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV No Brasil a incidencia de impostos de importação tornam os preços de motocicletas importadas quase impraticaveis, mas quando elas são montadas aqui em Manaus-AM em modulos CKD os impostos não incidem tanto e os preços tornanam-se atraentes. Essa foi a opção da BMW para as suas motocicletas para o mercado nacional confiando à DAFRA esse serviço tercerizado. A Yamaha tem um grande parque fabril em Manaus-AM e poderia repetir essa estratégia com a T7 assim como faz com outros modos como a MT-09 e a MT-07. Na faixa de preços das concorrentes eu tenho certeza que a T7 seria vendida aqui tanto quanto pão 🍞 de manhã cedo, somos um mercado consideravel se centenas de milhares de consumidores esperando ansiosamente por essa moto.
Dave, would you recommend a T7 as a first adv bike? Have a year of trail riding experience on a wr450f and yonks of road experience. Would love your thoughts.
Cash is the big one. If I was starting out I would get something second hand already set up. DR650, DR400, CRF300, KTM390. bigger bikes in challenging dirt are a whole other world. You really have to be on it.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV awesome, thanks for the advise!
The 24 Lt fuel tank by Italian brand Acerbis would be a much better choice as it keeps the weight much lower and the shape is very similar to the original one.
If I had my time again I would have gone for a rear tank.
Thanks
Thanks Fred really appreciated
looking to get a new bike im torn between this or the Suzuki 800DE i might hold off for the kove 800x thats comming out soon idk
I'm yet to see a Kove in the flesh.
Awaiting this reveal. And if you are contempleting selling it? I would be interested.
Never! :) Mind you I'm overbiked at present.
@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV so the 701 is for sale then?
@@adamrichards2072 Nope. But I am over biked at present.
Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on decat-airintake-RapidBike?
Never heard of it.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Decat: exhaust without catalysator, bigger airintake/filter, Rapidbike is a piggyback ECU unit. Self Adaptive Fueling Control Module, for smoother fueldelivery.
Dave, I would like to ask, have you heard anything about hard to shift to 2nd and 3 gear? I have to lift 3-4-5 times to get it to go into gear. Only 3000 mi on my T-7. Its also hard to down shift as well from 6-5- so on. Any help would be appreciated.
I have never heard of this nor experienced it myself.
who's tank is that looks Sweet Mate!
Safari Tanks, available throughout the world.
Ive been drooling over T7s for ages. I have an older KTM 1190R that I ridden almost 100,000kms. And a 701 Enduro. Trying to decide if a T7 would be a good replacement for my aging 1190. You seem to think it makes a good stablemate to the 701? Not sure if I will miss all that horsepower.
You will miss the horse power. You will need to get suspension work. You will lay back and soak up the power the pulls from nothing but doesn't excite.
Coming off the 1190 you would probably be happier with the 890R or 901 Norden Expedition
@@jasonearles9789 Norden Expedition NOT the standard Norden
I have a ‘20 T7 all spec’s up and a ‘23 701 LR. There’s a lot of overlap in use but very different bikes. You’ll have the pace and power in the 701 but the T7 engine is not as exciting but is more enjoyable. While the 701 is a whip, the T7 just makes me smile ever time.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I test rode a Noden Expedition and didn't like it at all! The ergonomics are all wonky, very wide feeling and huge seat and tank. Felt bigger than my 1190R. I brought home a brand new Tenere 700 last week and I love it!!!
Did you get the rear shock travel increased 35mm as well or is it stock height
Stock height. You have to watch centre of gravity.
I think the world raid is worth the extra bucks.
I have just ordered.
Yeah. Looking forward to testing it.
Think this would be a good first Adventure bike for a74 year old street rider? Maybe start smaller? Also how is it on the street?
If your hitting the dirt go a Honda CRF300.
I love the T7, looks, and reliability, but was wondering why your twin is not a KTM 890. This because your other keeper is a single cylinder KTM 690. Yes, everyone will mention reliability, but you yourself travelled from London to Sydney on a KTM. As for the T7 being a keeper, maybe the world raid would be, a better, obvious choice.
Let's wait and see. I'll test it soon.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Yeah! I know how that is going to go. Best wishes to you!
Nice!
Thanks!
I went for a test ride on a new 2023 T7. And ended up buying a 2023 CRF 300L. The T7 was so top heavy, long and crazy high. Don't kid yourself, an average rider will not be punting the T7 off-road like your big star utuber is.
In Australia I consider my skills, slightly above average. That said I agree with weight issue and I LOVE the CRF. On this channel we've built a cracker. Worth a look.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Lol, "slightly above" is like saying the sun is a warm place! Yes I watched the build, that was nice. However I already have a 250 Rally and was interested in building something like the old XR 500s a lightist trailbike that you can ride all day with enough go to make life interesting. And at only $6425 au where I live was bang for buck!
@@frednerk2127look up jake the garden snake and his build on the crf300L
At least his performance mods for more power
Hi. I'm considering getting a motorbike license, I have very little experience riding motorbikes, only one day at marokko as a present for my 40 yo birthday and other three days at a karting track with supermotard.
I have to say I disagree with this comment. The other day I rode (outside of the roads, on a big closed circuit of road) a t7 a 701 rally and a CRF 300l. I have to say the CRF is by far the most easy to ride, it's low, it's not very powerful, everything it's easy, but if you like to give the thing some speed it shows its limits very easily, the t7 is the best mix between off road and on road I guess. It's not very high, I could get to the floor on my toes (it was mounted with the higher seat option) and the bike is smooth. The 701 is the more aggressive option, high as fuck, very prone to slide the rear and with suspensions that I have no way of even begining to look for their limits.
To sum up, in my opinion saying the t7 is not for everyone because of the height and so on is not completely objective, I am 1.74 and didn't find it that tall. (Don't try the 701 then) and I found the CRF 300 l as a very nice bike but one you can get bored of very fast of you like to get to speed on it. Just my opinion. Have a nice day!
You should have tried the world raid
Camel adv rear brake will sort the squish but I know you being in aus, postage from Canada will hurt!
Alex you're the third or fourth person to recommend the Camel ADV rear Brake.
A lot of motorcycle and car reviewers make this mistake, Which is they don't tell the audience how tall they are, how much they weigh and other aspects to who they are and how they fit on the bike or in the vehicle...... I am 6 foot 6 it is important to me to know whether or not I will fit on a bike or in a vehicle.....
There is a series of videos on this build I frequently refer to by height.
You’re in the outback. Most of us are on roads and the roads for our adventures. I want to know if the T7 is good on the road and green lanes in the normal European countryside that seat looks like a plank. I wouldn’t last 30 minutes on thatand that’s the first thing I would change before the suspension. It wasn’t built as an off-road Enduro. Again that seat would have to go and I’d have to find a tubeless solution for the wheels. Apart from the seat and the tubeless, the bike is perfect. In my view I just sold my ktm 790 adventure at a heated the engine noise.
What is 'looks like a plank'. I haven't heard any complaining about seat comfort. Interesting comment without sitting on it. It's Centre of gravity is way higher than the 890. YOu'll notice that more than any seat.
Nice country there , one point if reliabilty on a adventure bike is not a Pro then well known others need reliabilty reported in the con catergory , right up the top of the list would be noted for Adventure riding . Do the others have contract clauses in there marketing agreements Dave , rarely do you here it unless you know the owners or watch non comercial adventures.
The best way of establishing reliability is unfortunately trolling the user groups for the models. I've got to say there are some very concerning trends.
Would you take the T7 over your adventure slayer CRF300l?
It depends on so many things. That's why I have 3 around this capacity. and a 500 adventure single
Braided s/s hose on the rear brake and a proper bleed?
Replacing the brake pedal is the fix according to those in the know.
Reliability is the main factor here.
If the orange bikes were reliable, there would be no competition, but being what they are, Yamaha can get away with the lack of suspension performance and overall technology
It's the reason men marry the girl next door type instead of the supermodel, you just know you're going to get more action , reliability and fun. Leave the supermodel to the guys that love spending money on maintainence .
Hmm. I guess I'm polygamous :) and my 690 is the super model?
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Yes your 690 is a super model 😂
So if you could keep only one bike, would it be the T7, 690 or 701?
Crickets.
I would hope that ALL bikes would be reliable after 10,000 miles.
Hope in vain :)
What Tires do you think work off road and on??? you like Best???
I bought Pirelli, before I as sponsored by them. Brilliant front tyre for dual sport, some people say the rear wear too quick and they do a combo of harder on the rear.
I think Yamaha should charge a little more and just put better suspension on from the outset otherwise indestructable.Thanks.
Agree. It's pretty simple isn't it. Look how mine goes through those whoops.
In my Eye the T7 has no competition sure the adventure bike category is a cesspool of OK motorcycles the KTM stands out probably the most out of everything but the T7 does it all and it's simple and I own a Suzuki
It has taken a bit of work to get this one up to scratch though.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Well when you find a motorcycle that has Everything You Want out of The Box Let Me Know I'm Still looking Myself but they're getting Close
If someone said, you can choose whatever bike you want, I would keep my T7
I like it too.
Wait so how much did you spend on aftermarket parts?
It's there.
Just remove the ABS brake lines , plug pump if can not remove completely , fit Custom Hel Performance brake lines. back to old school brakes.
what i done to my custom 1290 Super Enduro No ABS/TCS all old school
Thanks
Would you take the T7 over a DR650 as a 1 only bike?
No.
Fuel Injection, 6 speeds and twice the power and it can't replace the DR as a 1 only bike says a bunch!@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
Price Quality Off-Road feeling ist the T7 the best on the market. BUT New Transalp 2023 is now the Best of ADV
Not sure.
what is better 17" or 18" rear wheel for offroad
18 mist because of tire choices. Little narrower too but a 17 feels quite a bit better on the tarmac twisties
Too hard to answer quckly. End of the day there are successful bikes with either.
9:25 ... just pop into the nearest Bunnings store, pick up a battery powered chainsaw and head back into the bush! )
Ha ha. I like the challenge.
I found those OEM crash bars to be a complete joke, they bend way too easy and they cracked my cowling. I now have the sw motech and they are far superior
So they are transferring more energy to the frame? Crash bars are designed to bend. They can’t absorb everything.
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Yes it is nice.
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