Great comparison. For your use, a lot offroad or demanding gravel roads, the 21/18 inch fron/rear wheel, ground clearance and suspension travel is clearly an advantage of the Tenere. And its of course always nice to have a little bit more power. I think you are very fair to the CB500X with Rally Raid kit. I have Rally Raided mine. I got a new CB500X 2019 and did a full level 2 RR-upgrade included the spoked wheels. The price was less then a new Tenere and I now also has the OEM rims. In less than an hour I may now switch between pure street configuration and offroad/gravel. As I also do a lot asphalt thats an advantage for me. I did test ride a Tenere and I like the engine and I like the suspension and it is great to ride while standing. If you count in your Rotopax the weight difference of the Tenere vs the CB500X is starting to gap a lot in favour the CB500X. Wish you a lot of nice rides on your Tenere. Its a great bike, no doubt.
Hi Sven, the CB500X is so versatile bike and especially if you kept the OEM wheels! That way you have great tourer and great offroader! As you mention, it is nice to have a bit more power but it was the off-road for me because I grew to like it and ride harder terrain and faster. For example here in Morocco (I'm stuck in lockdown) all the sand in sahara was much easier on T7. It really boils down what one wants to ride. I 100% think CB500X is RTW bike. Good point with Rotopax, but I had it on my CB all the time as well, similar rack configuration. Thanks a lot for great comment, appreciated.
@@FARANDFURTHER Loved the video.. I'm curious about the 6 speed in the Honda verses the 5 in the Tenere. Were you shifting more often in the Honda because the gears were closer together?? Also which one revs less with lower Rpms on the highway at the same speed?? 👍
Great video. I've been waiting to see your comparison. My CB500X RRL2 has been good enough for me, but I understand your concerns about the power and better wheels/suspension/ground clearance of the T700. Keep the videos coming. Safe travels.
Hey Greg! I still love the CB500X even in the last interview with the Wheels of Morocco I mentioned CB500X is still my favorite bike, T7 will have to earn that title! ;) CB500X goes long way. Without having all that experience on it I would know it's limits and knowing those is really helpful when thinking about new bike. Glad you like the videos!
I just confirmed my order for the Tenere 700 , got the black one but didn't want either of the accessory packages they offered . Only wanted a couple things that were in each package so I will have to see what the parts department can order for me . I do want the center stand but I will have to watch your video on the trail stand . Meanwhile there's 45 more days for me to lose 15 pounds and gain back a little muscle . Great video as always looking forward to the next one .
I bought just the bike as well as I had good experience with aftermarket accessories and really wanted to have those on the bike. I ended up with Yamaha bashplate and I'm happy with it to be honest but that's probably all which was of interest for it. Yes you can spend money on indicators etc... but that's just cosmetics and I'll break things a lot...
Thank you for making this video! I currently have a 2017 CB500X and I have been eyeing up the Tenere but unsure if I should just do the rally raid kit instead. This answered literally all of my questions. I'll be saving my money and doing the Tenere. Im 185cm tall and really for me it has been a desire to have more leg room in addition to a bit more power. It seems the Tenere would be the smarter investment long term. Maybe I'll wait to nab one used
Hi Pat, your height will make T7 riding really easy. I think the approach to get some more miles on CB500X and next year or so switch to T7 is good plan, people and Yamaha will sortout all the initial pains and flaws. Can't say how you ride but for sure in long term T7 has more space for rider growth.
I got back from Morocco and had T7 in workshop for a bit so I rode Honda... What a cool little bike to ride compared to T7! :) Not to mention it still runs smooth even without sitting in garage for 7 months.
wow...considering u rode CB500X like that with that range of distances...and for 6 years owning it ...its a fair upgrade and honest. goodluck. and let us know your next experience of adventures video with tenere700
I think so that the Honda does earned it's own retirement. I mean that bike would definitely do another 100k but considering it was my 1st bike... one learns and grows and with T7 I have now space to grow. As soon as lockdown and COVID19 finishes I hope to be able to get some travel videos out :)
I’m your height! So this review was excellent for me! Really practical. I will go for tenere 700 as well. Have you considered tenere world ride version? Do you see any practical advantage which makes the deal worthy??
I changed the standard 15 for a 17 teeth sprocket on my 2020 Yamaha Tenere! best modification ever ... I can still ride almost everything in 3rd gear offroad and onroad! 1st and 2nd are only for uphill starts / uphill offroad and very slow riding onroad. The big benefit is the reduced RPM in 5th on B-roads and in 6th gear on the motorway. The engine has so much low and mid range power (aka "torque") the 15-sprocket just doesnt make sense to me.
Hi, just bought a T700 last week, it is an amazing bike. But I need a pair of boots, please can you tell me what "G" boots you are wearing at 04:23. thanks, happy
Cheers that`s answered some of the queries I had with the Yam... Nick Sanders rides them.. SO thats a positive as well.. The Honda AT has had some quality issues and the KTM`s are expensive and also don`t appear to be as bullet proof as they would like you to believe.. Depending on funds the 660 Tenere or the 700 here... may be my next bike purchase..
Watched all your Tenere videos. Very informative, thank you. Suspension seems to be too soft and wobbly. Especially apparent during that rocky descent, it seems to be bottoming out quite easy. If you change the suspension with RR's extreme version and add some other much needed farkles, the price of the T7 comes to the price of a KTM 790 Adventure R... OTOH, the KTM already has amazing suspension and a low sprung weight with the help of that low hanging fuel tank... I own an r1200gs lc and have been contemplating about replacing it with a bike that I could do more offroad (less weight) with and not be scared to trash around due to repair costs. T7 seems nice but not enough highway power and requires suspension upgrade (with my heavier weight, more so). KTM has power and suspension but can't say that I'd be relaxed taking it off road as it'd have costly repairs. Tough life! :)
Hi Haluk, yes especially for heavier loads the T7 suspension is limited. I'm 72kg and I've changed the rear spring from 70Nm stock to 80Nm uprated linear spring and it's better. RallyRaid extreme suspension would of course be amazing but I can't justify that price tag as I'm mostly overlanding (which is not hard enduro) and now I'm taking T7 for the 1st rally - so we will see how stock suspension will cope. I've done some mods (see last video) to minimise damage as I'm dropping the bike a lot and I'm curious how it will survive the rally. I don't really have highway power issues but I can understand that coming from GS1200 is downgrade... I upgraded from Honda CB500X ;) so T7 is like a rocket for me.
@@FARANDFURTHER Thank you for your detailed response. It's quite impossible to have everything you want in one so there'll be sacrifices made for sure. I think the std Tenere is still a great value bike which could be customized to fit individual needs.. Will definitely watch your next video. Wish you safe and fun rides!
Super video, dík! Vzhledem k tomu, že s "Adv" ježděním začínám tak jsem stáhnul po cb500x a mám v plánu provést RR upgrade, jen mam dotaz co se týče bagaze a schopnost připevnění rotopax - na CBcku jsi na to měl boční panely od RR či něco jiného?
Čau Milane, CB500X super, stopro schvaluju ideální na začátky a učení se na off-road. Já měl v vzádu SW motech rámy (takový ty odendavací, myslím SW-Motech Quick Lock Evo) a na tom jsem měl placku od Winding Roads v UK: www.windingroads.co.uk/rotopax-motorcycle-adapter-plate Fungovalo to absolutně geniálně, rotopax byl první a na něm ležela brašna.
Interesting video. Could you tell me witch brand and type of off road tire your are using on your T7? I just bought a new Honda Africa Twin 1000 of 2019 but now that I know the Yamaha Ténéré 700, I should have bought it insted. Tank you for you work.
Hello Frédéric, I'm running Continental TKC80 in the front and Mitas E-07+ Dakar in the rear. Same combination could work well for your Honda AT. AT is very capable bike, I did my off-road course on it, unfortunately for me its too heavy...
Thank you for your answer, I will try this set-up on my AT1000. I sold, in january, my BMW R 1200 GSA because of the weight and bought the Africa Twin. I will keep it for this year but I may change for a Yamaha Ténéré at the end of this year before going to Morocco. Best regards
Very interesting. I currently run the 660z Tenere, and love it. I'm considering the new cb500x with 19 front as standard. Hired a 17 inch frontier in Greece 2 yrs ago which had been Touratech 'd, and loved it. Don't go as extreme as you do so might be the better option for me.
Hello, 2019 CB500X is great choice especially if you're not trying to go hard enduro (as for some reason I'm heading towards). For ADV travel CB500X is really great machine and at the point when you hit it's limits (especially if it's beefed up with the suspension) there may be next version of the Tenere 700 ;)
Get rid of the MM BC 35 bags. 20 lbs empty. Doesn't your rear end feel like an anchor? I sold mine and went with Enduristan...immediate improvement with handling and balance. Lots of choices that are cheaper, lighter and 100% waterproof without a liner. Try using your BC35's in a 2 hr rainstorm and weigh the bags again. The material soaks up water and weighs even more. Great video.
Hello, I bought the Mosko moto panniers 2nd hand from other traveler to try them out. I do like most of the features but the weight is the biggest downside. I used Wolfman bags before on CB500X and they were working well and were much lighter. I was really thinking about trying some rackles system to save some weight. Good point about rain, I think the material of Moskos would soak up water indeed.
@@FARANDFURTHER I bought the BC35's without holding product. Had I known, I would not have purchased. Lost money re-selling. Rackless fits the T7 well; horseshoes or standard design. There is a cheap horseshoe style bag from Poland called 21 Brothers. I prefer 2 bags on the side with a duffle on top. Enduristan Blizzard XL (34L total) fits very well. Add a 30L duffle and you've got enough room for most trips. Enjoy the T7...much more capable than the Honda.
Thank you MHH! Well, doing off-road there will always be risk of falling or dropping the bike. It is not problem to drop it or fall but the important thing is not to get injured. I'm not afraid to scratch the bike so if I feel it will fall I just let it go and let it fall instead of trying to safe the bike. This way I keep myself safe(er) an just pickup the bike later. I also don't ride crazy fast, slower I go more control I have (not too slow though) and I also train a lot to be strong enough to pickup the bike as well as train my motorcycle skills.
Hi Gloss, I didn't consider KTM 690 due to the price point, even at the price of Tenere I've stretched my budget. I originally wanted Husky 701 actually but the bike is even taller and I struggle now with T7 (I prefer not to lower it). Also I wanted to have 2 cylinder bike so that the pistons are smaller (makes for less stress on the engine) and vibrations are low because I know I need to do a lot of KM at highway speeds.
can you review this bike as a smaller rider. i'm the same height as you but i have no adv bike experience. i've only had experience sport bikes for two years. my dream is to travel north and south america on the tenere 700. is this a good adv bike for a beginner adv short rider?
Hello, this is tough question. First of all you can get lowering kit for T7 or lower seat. However I'd suggest maybe to get some ADV experience first on any bike (does not really matter) so that you get an idea what you want from the bike and what feels comfortable. T7 is a bike meant for certain purpose (a lot focus on off-road) you may find that the amount of off-road you want to do is not that much and other bike would be more suitable. Don't forget that most of ADV riding is anyway about max 60/40 where 40 is off-road. And even that off-road is not super hard, I've done my whole ADV life on Honda CB500X! You don't need T7 or KTM690 or BMW to have adventure, you need to find what adventure you want to do and then the bike which will do most of it. No bike will be perfect anyway so it will be compromise. T7 is tall bike, get some experience on it or similar, it may be intimidating at first. Just my 2 cents.
Currently I have a 990 adventure, but the reliability, lighter weight and especially 3l less fuel consumption make the Tenere a bike I definitely want when I have the funds
I know people who would not trade the KTM 990 Adventure for T7 even if it would be made of pure gold :) Have you tried T7? Would be really interesting to hear what you like and dislike coming from 990.
@@FARANDFURTHER No I have not tried it yet. But I am definitely planning on taking a test ride when I finde the time. The 990 is absolutely brilliant but it's starting to show it's age. It's a powerfull loud and fun beast, but I'm about as tall as you and apart from doing wheelies the 25 less horsepower won't hurt me (I think) - so 20-30kg less weight and the economical and reliable engine sound very appealing to be honest
That is very very reasonable, what you say. I think that there is loads of power for wheelies (I lack the technique, it's not the bike) and also the fact is, yes there is less horses but also less kg, which means the power/weight ratio may not be that bad. So far the engine is fine. I had to adjust valve clerances on Honda CB500X at 100 000km, lets see how Yamaha will do ;)
Hi Bob, I won't be adding center stand. I got used not to have it because of my travels on Honda CB500X and I'm using trail stand for the road side work. Check my other video on the trail stands: ua-cam.com/video/wPTsHnxFSdA/v-deo.html For more serious work I have a bike lift at home or I tend to visit local garage around the world and ask them if I can use their equipment for small fee to work on the bike.
Hi, you mean my videos from the trips? Well I have posted mostly on Instagram in the past. I'm very new to UA-cam so there is not much of content from my travels to India. Working on it though.
In terms of T7 vs CB500X it really depends what you need from the bike. If you want a lot of off-road then go with T7 if you want super reliable machine and occasional off-road CB500X is great choice.
Čau Petře, měřím 168cm. No ze začátku jsem se fakt bál, že to rupne, ale jsem na to tak zvyklej z Hondy, že to dělám dost často a zatím to drží... Ale samozřejmě se trochu bojim, zvlášť když takhle otáčím mašinu plně naloženej s bagáží, ale i to to zatím vydrželo.
No, they don’t bend. I had them on Honda as well and that is probably the only piece of protection I was not able to break. Plastic of course you can destroy but the aluminium frame is rock solid so far.
If I had the choice of cb500x kitted with rally raid kit or the xt700z both for the same price. I would pick the 21" front wheel & longer suspension & ground clearance on the yamaha every time. You got the extra power , you can afford to go down a rear sprocket size for decent highway economy.
Yes, the 21" makes a difference in terrain as well as T7 being a bit longer. I think it's just very versatile bike and one does appreciate extra power. However I've done most of my travel on CB500X and really you can go very long way on it, if you have RRkit.
Hi , I like the way you are making videos and making aware of this robust machine. But when I look at you with the bike, It looks tall, Could you please let me know your Inseam or is there a video where you presented "Tenere for short riders", I have 29 inseams, do you think I will fit into it.
Hi, I'm 168cm tall and my inseam is about 70cm. The bike is tall, I can reach ground only with my tip toes and if I want flat foot I need to shift to one of the but cheeks. It's fine, but it needs practice.
I wish the tenere had better range but everything else is great. Looking for a little more offroad capability than the stock cb500x so the yamaha tenere 700 looks ideal.
Yea, T7 is great upgrade. The only thing is the height which may be limiting for some riders. It’s also more top heavy than CB500X due to the height. But so far nothing I could not live with.
Ok. i found out in the next videos. Can't stop watching them, i found them interesting and i like that you don't try to be interesting just say your authentic experience. Most bike related videos try to grab your attention the wrong way and they are not authentic.
I am 170 'high' , more often 170 'long' and didnt get the feet that far down when I tried...the height alone is not the point, its the inseam! I may be 1cm taller than youl, but your legs are longer....on the otherhand I am also a few kilos heavier than you.... my point is - dont get discouraged by your height, it can be overcome by technique. Your ridingskills you have developed, prove that!......didnt know that you could be so analytical. 😁😎 - great video!
you are small, when I stand next to a T7 then it looks like a bike. the cb500 is just a pocket bike like many others. i will be the first motorcycle designer that will make frames in 3 sizes.
How did you feel going from electronics to none? The lack of traction control and abs I've never experienced but the bike literally does everything I want for the budget otherwise.
I never owned motorcycle with much of electronics. ABS is what my bikes had nothing else. So for me it was really not issue. In terms of traction control I think about Honda CB500X engine and even T7 engine as traction control, it does not have too much power as KTMs/BMWs so it makes things easier. But for sure, clutch control is a key here. I'm sure if one gets used to traction control it would be quite a step back... maybe?
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Great comparison. For your use, a lot offroad or demanding gravel roads, the 21/18 inch fron/rear wheel, ground clearance and suspension travel is clearly an advantage of the Tenere. And its of course always nice to have a little bit more power. I think you are very fair to the CB500X with Rally Raid kit. I have Rally Raided mine. I got a new CB500X 2019 and did a full level 2 RR-upgrade included the spoked wheels. The price was less then a new Tenere and I now also has the OEM rims. In less than an hour I may now switch between pure street configuration and offroad/gravel. As I also do a lot asphalt thats an advantage for me. I did test ride a Tenere and I like the engine and I like the suspension and it is great to ride while standing. If you count in your Rotopax the weight difference of the Tenere vs the CB500X is starting to gap a lot in favour the CB500X. Wish you a lot of nice rides on your Tenere. Its a great bike, no doubt.
Hi Sven, the CB500X is so versatile bike and especially if you kept the OEM wheels! That way you have great tourer and great offroader!
As you mention, it is nice to have a bit more power but it was the off-road for me because I grew to like it and ride harder terrain and faster. For example here in Morocco (I'm stuck in lockdown) all the sand in sahara was much easier on T7.
It really boils down what one wants to ride. I 100% think CB500X is RTW bike.
Good point with Rotopax, but I had it on my CB all the time as well, similar rack configuration.
Thanks a lot for great comment, appreciated.
@@FARANDFURTHER Loved the video.. I'm curious about the 6 speed in the Honda verses the 5 in the Tenere. Were you shifting more often in the Honda because the gears were closer together?? Also which one revs less with lower Rpms on the highway at the same speed?? 👍
Great video. I've been waiting to see your comparison. My CB500X RRL2 has been good enough for me, but I understand your concerns about the power and better wheels/suspension/ground clearance of the T700.
Keep the videos coming. Safe travels.
Hey Greg! I still love the CB500X even in the last interview with the Wheels of Morocco I mentioned CB500X is still my favorite bike, T7 will have to earn that title! ;) CB500X goes long way. Without having all that experience on it I would know it's limits and knowing those is really helpful when thinking about new bike.
Glad you like the videos!
@@FARANDFURTHER Yeah man! Great seeing your content. Safe travels.
I just confirmed my order for the Tenere 700 , got the black one but didn't want either of the accessory packages they offered . Only wanted a couple things that were in each package so I will have to see what the parts department can order for me . I do want the center stand but I will have to watch your video on the trail stand . Meanwhile there's 45 more days for me to lose 15 pounds and gain back a little muscle .
Great video as always looking forward to the next one .
I bought just the bike as well as I had good experience with aftermarket accessories and really wanted to have those on the bike. I ended up with Yamaha bashplate and I'm happy with it to be honest but that's probably all which was of interest for it. Yes you can spend money on indicators etc... but that's just cosmetics and I'll break things a lot...
Thank you for making this video! I currently have a 2017 CB500X and I have been eyeing up the Tenere but unsure if I should just do the rally raid kit instead. This answered literally all of my questions. I'll be saving my money and doing the Tenere. Im 185cm tall and really for me it has been a desire to have more leg room in addition to a bit more power. It seems the Tenere would be the smarter investment long term. Maybe I'll wait to nab one used
Hi Pat, your height will make T7 riding really easy. I think the approach to get some more miles on CB500X and next year or so switch to T7 is good plan, people and Yamaha will sortout all the initial pains and flaws. Can't say how you ride but for sure in long term T7 has more space for rider growth.
Great comparison video 👍
Thanks, really good info, and another testament to the CB500x quality ( I bought the T7 also, waiting for corona to pass)
I got back from Morocco and had T7 in workshop for a bit so I rode Honda... What a cool little bike to ride compared to T7! :) Not to mention it still runs smooth even without sitting in garage for 7 months.
Konečně jsem uslyšel co jsem chtěl. Dík za videa.
Super! To jsem rád, že se mi to povedlo, nevěřil bys kolikrát jsem to přemlouval :)
Elegantly done video ;) Very well exposed and interesting experience, thank Pavel!
Thanks a lot... this one has been a bit struggle. It is a learning curve for me.
Thank you Pavel. Very Helpful!
Most welcome! 👍
wow...considering u rode CB500X like that with that range of distances...and for 6 years owning it ...its a fair upgrade and honest. goodluck. and let us know your next experience of adventures video with tenere700
I think so that the Honda does earned it's own retirement. I mean that bike would definitely do another 100k but considering it was my 1st bike... one learns and grows and with T7 I have now space to grow. As soon as lockdown and COVID19 finishes I hope to be able to get some travel videos out :)
I’m your height! So this review was excellent for me! Really practical. I will go for tenere 700 as well. Have you considered tenere world ride version? Do you see any practical advantage which makes the deal worthy??
I changed the standard 15 for a 17 teeth sprocket on my 2020 Yamaha Tenere! best modification ever ... I can still ride almost everything in 3rd gear offroad and onroad! 1st and 2nd are only for uphill starts / uphill offroad and very slow riding onroad. The big benefit is the reduced RPM in 5th on B-roads and in 6th gear on the motorway. The engine has so much low and mid range power (aka "torque") the 15-sprocket just doesnt make sense to me.
Hi, just bought a T700 last week, it is an amazing bike. But I need a pair of boots, please can you tell me what "G" boots you are wearing at 04:23. thanks, happy
Hi, I'm using GAERNE FASTBACK ENDURANCE boots.
@@FARANDFURTHER Thanks!
Great video. Besides the price point would you have considered KTMs 790 Adv R? Cheers.
Hello, I didn't try KTM 790 so I really can't say, sorry.
Cheers that`s answered some of the queries I had with the Yam... Nick Sanders rides them.. SO thats a positive as well.. The Honda AT has had some quality issues and the KTM`s are expensive and also don`t appear to be as bullet proof as they would like you to believe.. Depending on funds the 660 Tenere or the 700 here... may be my next bike purchase..
I’m happy the video was helpful. I guess the 2nd hand market for 700 will form pretty quickly...
@@FARANDFURTHER One can hope.. Shed loads of Africa twins up for sale - which says it all really.
:) Indeed :)
Watched all your Tenere videos. Very informative, thank you.
Suspension seems to be too soft and wobbly. Especially apparent during that rocky descent, it seems to be bottoming out quite easy. If you change the suspension with RR's extreme version and add some other much needed farkles, the price of the T7 comes to the price of a KTM 790 Adventure R... OTOH, the KTM already has amazing suspension and a low sprung weight with the help of that low hanging fuel tank... I own an r1200gs lc and have been contemplating about replacing it with a bike that I could do more offroad (less weight) with and not be scared to trash around due to repair costs. T7 seems nice but not enough highway power and requires suspension upgrade (with my heavier weight, more so). KTM has power and suspension but can't say that I'd be relaxed taking it off road as it'd have costly repairs. Tough life! :)
Hi Haluk,
yes especially for heavier loads the T7 suspension is limited. I'm 72kg and I've changed the rear spring from 70Nm stock to 80Nm uprated linear spring and it's better.
RallyRaid extreme suspension would of course be amazing but I can't justify that price tag as I'm mostly overlanding (which is not hard enduro) and now I'm taking T7 for the 1st rally - so we will see how stock suspension will cope.
I've done some mods (see last video) to minimise damage as I'm dropping the bike a lot and I'm curious how it will survive the rally.
I don't really have highway power issues but I can understand that coming from GS1200 is downgrade... I upgraded from Honda CB500X ;) so T7 is like a rocket for me.
@@FARANDFURTHER Thank you for your detailed response. It's quite impossible to have everything you want in one so there'll be sacrifices made for sure.
I think the std Tenere is still a great value bike which could be customized to fit individual needs..
Will definitely watch your next video. Wish you safe and fun rides!
Super video, dík! Vzhledem k tomu, že s "Adv" ježděním začínám tak jsem stáhnul po cb500x a mám v plánu provést RR upgrade, jen mam dotaz co se týče bagaze a schopnost připevnění rotopax - na CBcku jsi na to měl boční panely od RR či něco jiného?
Čau Milane, CB500X super, stopro schvaluju ideální na začátky a učení se na off-road. Já měl v vzádu SW motech rámy (takový ty odendavací, myslím SW-Motech Quick Lock Evo) a na tom jsem měl placku od Winding Roads v UK:
www.windingroads.co.uk/rotopax-motorcycle-adapter-plate
Fungovalo to absolutně geniálně, rotopax byl první a na něm ležela brašna.
Interesting video.
Could you tell me witch brand and type of off road tire your are using on your T7?
I just bought a new Honda Africa Twin 1000 of 2019 but now that I know the Yamaha Ténéré 700, I should have bought it insted.
Tank you for you work.
Hello Frédéric, I'm running Continental TKC80 in the front and Mitas E-07+ Dakar in the rear. Same combination could work well for your Honda AT. AT is very capable bike, I did my off-road course on it, unfortunately for me its too heavy...
Thank you for your answer, I will try this set-up on my AT1000.
I sold, in january, my BMW R 1200 GSA because of the weight and bought the Africa Twin.
I will keep it for this year but I may change for a Yamaha Ténéré at the end of this year before going to Morocco.
Best regards
That sounds like constant down sizing ;) Good idea for Morocco, IMHO.
Excellently reviewed
Glad you liked it! Thanks!
Very interesting.
I currently run the 660z Tenere, and love it. I'm considering the new cb500x with 19 front as standard. Hired a 17 inch frontier in Greece 2 yrs ago which had been Touratech 'd, and loved it.
Don't go as extreme as you do so might be the better option for me.
Hello, 2019 CB500X is great choice especially if you're not trying to go hard enduro (as for some reason I'm heading towards). For ADV travel CB500X is really great machine and at the point when you hit it's limits (especially if it's beefed up with the suspension) there may be next version of the Tenere 700 ;)
Get rid of the MM BC 35 bags. 20 lbs empty. Doesn't your rear end feel like an anchor? I sold mine and went with Enduristan...immediate improvement with handling and balance. Lots of choices that are cheaper, lighter and 100% waterproof without a liner. Try using your BC35's in a 2 hr rainstorm and weigh the bags again. The material soaks up water and weighs even more. Great video.
Hello, I bought the Mosko moto panniers 2nd hand from other traveler to try them out. I do like most of the features but the weight is the biggest downside. I used Wolfman bags before on CB500X and they were working well and were much lighter. I was really thinking about trying some rackles system to save some weight. Good point about rain, I think the material of Moskos would soak up water indeed.
@@FARANDFURTHER I bought the BC35's without holding product. Had I known, I would not have purchased. Lost money re-selling. Rackless fits the T7 well; horseshoes or standard design. There is a cheap horseshoe style bag from Poland called 21 Brothers. I prefer 2 bags on the side with a duffle on top. Enduristan Blizzard XL (34L total) fits very well. Add a 30L duffle and you've got enough room for most trips. Enjoy the T7...much more capable than the Honda.
Thanks for suggestions, I'll have a look.
Is that the standard seat or low seat on your T7?
My T7 is standard version, not lowered and with the standard seat.
Interesting!! I'm looking forward to watch your experience videos!!
How do you manage off-road falling risks?!
Good Luck!!
Thank you MHH! Well, doing off-road there will always be risk of falling or dropping the bike. It is not problem to drop it or fall but the important thing is not to get injured. I'm not afraid to scratch the bike so if I feel it will fall I just let it go and let it fall instead of trying to safe the bike. This way I keep myself safe(er) an just pickup the bike later.
I also don't ride crazy fast, slower I go more control I have (not too slow though) and I also train a lot to be strong enough to pickup the bike as well as train my motorcycle skills.
FAR&FURTHER Where there is will, there is a way!!
Tnx for the response!! Stay safe(er).
Interesting video. Looks like you do a lot of dirt riding. Did you consider the new KTM 690 or Husky 701.
Hi Gloss, I didn't consider KTM 690 due to the price point, even at the price of Tenere I've stretched my budget.
I originally wanted Husky 701 actually but the bike is even taller and I struggle now with T7 (I prefer not to lower it).
Also I wanted to have 2 cylinder bike so that the pistons are smaller (makes for less stress on the engine) and vibrations are low because I know I need to do a lot of KM at highway speeds.
I’m sure you’ll love the new T700 on your next big trip. I own a WR250R and a Vstrom650. I’m considering changing the Vstrom for T700.
Can't comment on the Vstrom vs T7 but on loving the T7 I agree. So far it took me everywhere with ease.
can you review this bike as a smaller rider. i'm the same height as you but i have no adv bike experience. i've only had experience sport bikes for two years. my dream is to travel north and south america on the tenere 700. is this a good adv bike for a beginner adv short rider?
Hello, this is tough question. First of all you can get lowering kit for T7 or lower seat. However I'd suggest maybe to get some ADV experience first on any bike (does not really matter) so that you get an idea what you want from the bike and what feels comfortable. T7 is a bike meant for certain purpose (a lot focus on off-road) you may find that the amount of off-road you want to do is not that much and other bike would be more suitable. Don't forget that most of ADV riding is anyway about max 60/40 where 40 is off-road. And even that off-road is not super hard, I've done my whole ADV life on Honda CB500X!
You don't need T7 or KTM690 or BMW to have adventure, you need to find what adventure you want to do and then the bike which will do most of it. No bike will be perfect anyway so it will be compromise.
T7 is tall bike, get some experience on it or similar, it may be intimidating at first.
Just my 2 cents.
Currently I have a 990 adventure, but the reliability, lighter weight and especially 3l less fuel consumption make the Tenere a bike I definitely want when I have the funds
I know people who would not trade the KTM 990 Adventure for T7 even if it would be made of pure gold :) Have you tried T7? Would be really interesting to hear what you like and dislike coming from 990.
@@FARANDFURTHER No I have not tried it yet. But I am definitely planning on taking a test ride when I finde the time. The 990 is absolutely brilliant but it's starting to show it's age. It's a powerfull loud and fun beast, but I'm about as tall as you and apart from doing wheelies the 25 less horsepower won't hurt me (I think) - so 20-30kg less weight and the economical and reliable engine sound very appealing to be honest
That is very very reasonable, what you say. I think that there is loads of power for wheelies (I lack the technique, it's not the bike) and also the fact is, yes there is less horses but also less kg, which means the power/weight ratio may not be that bad. So far the engine is fine. I had to adjust valve clerances on Honda CB500X at 100 000km, lets see how Yamaha will do ;)
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Great video. Question: are you going to add a center stand or do you just lay the bike down when doing tire work?
Hi Bob, I won't be adding center stand. I got used not to have it because of my travels on Honda CB500X and I'm using trail stand for the road side work. Check my other video on the trail stands:
ua-cam.com/video/wPTsHnxFSdA/v-deo.html
For more serious work I have a bike lift at home or I tend to visit local garage around the world and ask them if I can use their equipment for small fee to work on the bike.
thanks, thinking about cb500x or T7, where is video from trips? i dont find anyone
Go for the t7
Hi, you mean my videos from the trips? Well I have posted mostly on Instagram in the past. I'm very new to UA-cam so there is not much of content from my travels to India. Working on it though.
In terms of T7 vs CB500X it really depends what you need from the bike. If you want a lot of off-road then go with T7 if you want super reliable machine and occasional off-road CB500X is great choice.
Jak seš vysokej? Super video :) Nemáš strach že ten odlitek (boční stojan) praskne, když na něm otáčíš mašinu?
Čau Petře, měřím 168cm. No ze začátku jsem se fakt bál, že to rupne, ale jsem na to tak zvyklej z Hondy, že to dělám dost často a zatím to drží... Ale samozřejmě se trochu bojim, zvlášť když takhle otáčím mašinu plně naloženej s bagáží, ale i to to zatím vydrželo.
Vyrobíme ocelový :) mám ho na Africe :)
To by bylo super! Akorát já jsem teď zavřenej v Maroku kvůli koroně :) Honda měla ocelovej a fungovalo to parádně.
Hi.
Barkbuster hand guard on your Tenere, Do they band when falling?
No, they don’t bend. I had them on Honda as well and that is probably the only piece of protection I was not able to break. Plastic of course you can destroy but the aluminium frame is rock solid so far.
FAR&FURTHER thank you, greeting from Montenegro😊
@@podgoricanin If it would not be for COVID-19 I'd most likely be somewhere around Montenegro!
FAR&FURTHER I hope to see you again in Montenegro HU 2020☀️
Stefan Vujović 2020?! I’ll still be in Lockdown! What is the date for HU?
Interesting comparison , well done! Let me know what is your inseam?
Hello, my inseam is 75cm.
@@FARANDFURTHER Thanks.
If I had the choice of cb500x kitted with rally raid kit or the xt700z both for the same price. I would pick the 21" front wheel & longer suspension & ground clearance on the yamaha every time. You got the extra power , you can afford to go down a rear sprocket size for decent highway economy.
Yes, the 21" makes a difference in terrain as well as T7 being a bit longer. I think it's just very versatile bike and one does appreciate extra power. However I've done most of my travel on CB500X and really you can go very long way on it, if you have RRkit.
Hi , I like the way you are making videos and making aware of this robust machine. But when I look at you with the bike, It looks tall, Could you please let me know your Inseam or is there a video where you presented "Tenere for short riders", I have 29 inseams, do you think I will fit into it.
Hi, I'm 168cm tall and my inseam is about 70cm. The bike is tall, I can reach ground only with my tip toes and if I want flat foot I need to shift to one of the but cheeks. It's fine, but it needs practice.
FAR&FURTHER one last question, have you lowered your bike? Or it's standard setting
I'm on standard setting and standard seat. No worries, I like people asking questions.
Excellent video..thanks.
Thank you very much, glad it was useful.
I wish the tenere had better range but everything else is great. Looking for a little more offroad capability than the stock cb500x so the yamaha tenere 700 looks ideal.
Yea, T7 is great upgrade. The only thing is the height which may be limiting for some riders. It’s also more top heavy than CB500X due to the height.
But so far nothing I could not live with.
My i ask you how tall are you?
Ok. i found out in the next videos. Can't stop watching them, i found them interesting and i like that you don't try to be interesting just say your authentic experience. Most bike related videos try to grab your attention the wrong way and they are not authentic.
how tall are you?
Hi I'm 168cm tall.
Respect!
Excellent video, I become a subscriber on your channel.
I'm 167cm tall. How tall are you?
Hello Branislav, I'm 168cm tall, so not really a big guy. Glad you liked the video.
@@FARANDFURTHER I like how you operate a motorcycle. Hope new driving shots and mechanical endeavors to see. Thanks for your reply!
Thanks, I've upcoming video on dropping the Tenere and picking it up ;)
I am 170 'high' , more often 170 'long' and didnt get the feet that far down when I tried...the height alone is not the point, its the inseam! I may be 1cm taller than youl, but your legs are longer....on the otherhand I am also a few kilos heavier than you.... my point is - dont get discouraged by your height, it can be overcome by technique. Your ridingskills you have developed, prove that!......didnt know that you could be so analytical. 😁😎 - great video!
I should have put the height and inseam into the video... One big mistake.
Always wear sandals with your 550# top heavy bikes..mmkay ?
Funny I'm in between both
How so?
Main difference..... T7 = Insane top heavy , CBX =not...... Everything else T7.
Yea, better economy as well. CB500X is wonderful bike for travel.
you are small, when I stand next to a T7 then it looks like a bike. the cb500 is just a pocket bike like many others. i will be the first motorcycle designer that will make frames in 3 sizes.
😂😂😂😂 Yes, I’m short! I have a friend and when he sits on the T7 it looks like he sits in the Honda Grom 😂
How did you feel going from electronics to none? The lack of traction control and abs I've never experienced but the bike literally does everything I want for the budget otherwise.
I never owned motorcycle with much of electronics. ABS is what my bikes had nothing else. So for me it was really not issue. In terms of traction control I think about Honda CB500X engine and even T7 engine as traction control, it does not have too much power as KTMs/BMWs so it makes things easier. But for sure, clutch control is a key here.
I'm sure if one gets used to traction control it would be quite a step back... maybe?