The Real Life Psychology Behind The Tetris Effect
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- If you haven’t seen it already, the Tetris Effect Trailer that Playstation dropped back in June is one of the most moving advertisements in a long time. It mentions a study about amnesiacs who can’t form new memories, and how they dreamed of playing Tetris hours and even days later. So today on Psych of Play, were going to take a look at that study and what is actually going on.
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Games Shown:
Tetris Effect (2018) - Resonair
Tetris NES (1984) - Philips, Sega
Tetris Worlds (2001) - THQ
The “New” Tetris (1999) - H2O entertainment
Movies/TV shown
Your Name (2016) - Toho
Memento (2000) - Summit Entertainment
Finding Nemo (2003) - Walt Disney Pictures
50 First Dates (2004) - Columbia Pictures
• Video
• 14-Year-Old Prodigy Pr...
• Robert Stickgold - Why...
• TETRIS - OFFICIAL TRAILER
• Tetris Effect - E3 201...
Music Sources:
Giant Step - Ben Prunty
Yours Forever - Tetris Effect
Humanity’s Last Chapter - Tetris Efect
Stories about the world that once was - Chris Zabriskie
Impulse - Ben Prunty
Research Sources:
Stickgold: Dreaming cement’s learning, Main Study
www.scientific...
Abstract: science.science...
Types of Amnesia
www.human-memor...
Optimization and Shaping thoughts
constantrenewa...
Main study summarized
www.sciencemag...
Hippocampus and Procedural Memory
www.news-medic...
Memory Retrieval
www.scienceabc...
Declarative VS Procedural
www.human-memor...
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#PsychofPlay #TetrisEffect #Amnesia - Ігри
5:00 all i can think of is kingdom hearts "the memories are all there, but the chain of memories is broken"
That's actually a really poetic way of looking at it haha
When I played Portal 2 for the first time, I played a long non-stop session. Got stuck in a puzzle and went to sleep, and while dreaming, I swear I saw the solution for it while dreaming about it. Next morning, just I saw in my dream, there was the solution for the puzzle. Seeing the clip of the programmer gave me chills, and the brain is weird
Ive done the same a few times. Most notably was when I played the game Brainlord on SNES...I only solved the last puzzle when I gave up and went to sleep.
Icecreamsandwich has a video with a similar experience with Super mario world
Years later my brain still occasionally generates and solves Portal 2 puzzles in my dreams (although I doubt they would make sense in real life)
One of my friends was playing Outer Wilds and was stuck on the last puzzle they needed, then in a dream they saw not the solution, but the rewarded key, and wrote it down figuring it would be important (and they were right, it was the exact correct key to the true ending)
@@SuperTux20did your friend look at any weird looking statues before hand?
SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!!!!
isn’t this literally what the hearthian experiences every time they time loop? cause they wake up with the memories of the last one
This is also why it's commonly believed that when learning a language, "full immersion" is often seen as the most effective method of learning. By constantly surrounding yourself with a language you don't know, especially without any aid about what is going on, your brain will find it necessary to start "practicing" in subconsciously.
Hi, I'm someone who suffers from memory issues. And how you described it matched perfectly to my experience. I can recognize stuff just fine (usually), or be reminded of things (sometimes), but trying to explicitly recall something always results in failure, especially if it was recent. Lots of repetitions usually helps make things stick in my mind better and improves my recognition, which then fades as I don't interact with things. Emotional stuff and motor skills are largely unimpaired (I still have a few fond memories of my past, but they're few and far between).
I don't have any dreams whatsoever, and no it's not just forgetting them. I just lack any such experience (skipping over the night, rather than experiencing a dream and then forgetting afterwards).
I wouldn't say I'm an amnesiac since I *can* remember some stuff, especially with *lots* of repetition and consistently appearing. But if I don't talk to someone for a week or so, there's a good chance I'll forget them entirely.
It's very weird to watch things that I've seen before, but forgot I've seen. There's this weird feeling of "oh yeah I remember this" but not actually remembering it. And that feeling really makes going back and playing older games, or remakes of older games an absolute joy.
This video was really neat to watch. Thanks :)
Hi, I also have memory problems! My memories of my past are not very complete, with just a few things sticking out to me (mostly times I was extremely scared). I have troubles in explicit recollection of memories, but sometimes if I'm directly reminded of something my brain will begin filling in the blanks. I don't memorise names or faces at all which is fun.
Do you remember making this comment?
@@rickzegooene2193 Hi. I saw your comment show up in my notifications. The video thumbnail and title reminded me that I have indeed seen this video before, but I don't remember any of the content. I also don't remember writing that comment. I can recognize that it's something very similar (ie identical) to what I would write, and can obviously see my name attached. But it still feels foreign even though I rationally know I wrote it. Prior to the notification, I had no recollection of this comment or video, nor did they ever enter my mind.
@@Otome_chan311 Thanks for the reply, it's very informative! I hope you're doing well, it must be troublesome living with a condition like this.
@@rickzegooene2193 My day to day life is fairly consistent, and it's not like I forget stuff that I deal with every single day. But yeah, I take a lot of notes and write stuff down and such since I forget a lot of things. Not super bad but still kinda annoying.
This is really impressive work that you're doing, and it's a shame the UA-cam algorithm doesn't think to promote it above the noise that it elects to show people. I hope you keep at it, since it's the sort of thing that not just anybody can do for themselves.
Hey man thank you so much for saying that! I'm sure the algorithm will come around, in the meantime I'm just going to keep on doing what I love :) Thanks for watching!
@@DarylTalksGames After a year I can tell you that algorithm didn't come around...
Adonas Official - It still could. The thing about the future is that it’s pretty much infinite.
It’s coming around. It brought you to slowly but surely
@@Cliffviewnightradiodj it comes around to people who watch a lot of GMTK and design docs.
Once again another strength of muscle memory, even for logical tasks, has been discovered!
that makes me wonder: do androids dream of electric sheep?
Do androids have a procedural memory?
You dickhead :)
2:25 does this mean I'm an "expert" because i've logged 100 hours of Tetris in the last 5 weeks alone?
NOPE, I'm just an addict!
So that explains why I keep dreaming of playing Tetris a month after I started playing Tetris 99
3:58 bro this editing is fantastic the way it shows how they would dream tetris feels so realistic
As a comp sci major, I have written code in my sleep. So crazy. This is such a cool phenomenon. The brain is so cool!
Really enjoyed the video! It went in a whole other direction than I anticipated but makes me curious if we could eventually induce these “learning dreams” If we could harness these dreams and that state of not focusing but being above peak performance you mentioned in your speedrunning video any human could increase efficiency exponentially, which is just fun to think about. Anyway great video!
Thanks my dude! I don't know that it's something we could ever induce in anyone, but I do think this type of thing happening is only natural whenever someone pours hours of practice into something . I think the brain eventually just makes its own agenda on something when its put through enough repetition, you know?
Daryl Talks Games Possibly. Which makes me wonder someone in a class is doing hours of math a day. Will their grade improve if they dream about math? And if they’re doing math for hours why aren’t they dreaming about it to begin with? Is it just not engaging enough? What I’m wondering is can these dreams only be brought by games? It’s a crazy leap But I’m just wondering why many people people don’t dream about school but a decent percentage of people in this study dreamed about Tetris? Just a thought.
Its a solid question honestly. In the study, Stickgold kinda summed up that the dreaming only happened after the brain decided "okay this is actually something we need to get better at", like it only does it once it "matters". But of course not all the subjects actually recalled having the dreams, so there may be an emotional factor to it as well. Like I dream about golf a lot because I love it and -want- to get good at it, but I never dream about my day job even though I'm running reports for it on a daily basis.
Another thing that could affect it is that we don't always remember our dreams. So the student learning math could be dreaming about math a ton, but not actually recall it. I think we only recall about 10% of our dreams about an hour after waking up, so it's honestly hard to quantify haha. But I definitely don't think its exclusive to games, as amazing as that would be.
@@DarylTalksGames Yeah the exclusive to games is a giant stretch. I'm kind of more trying to draw light to the fact that more engaging things we MAY dream about more??? Really liked the insight about only remembering 10% of dreams! Thanks for the discussion!
@@EtraGames Actually, in high school I noticed that I was able to recall topics later much easier if I rehearsed them right before sleep, opposed to earlier in the day/evening. I somehow was trying to tune my subcontious into the topics I wanted to learn before going to sleep, and I feel like it really did help me -- I needed to spend much less time studying than before. So at least for my personal experience, I'd say you can train yourself to exploit your sleep to learn stuff, even if you cannot recall your dreams later on.
Of course this is only anecdotal evidence, not a scientific experiment. Neverheless, give it a try if you like!
i love the trailer
it's not like others with this music in the back, text all over the screen, insane transitions with mega bass boost
it's music that makes you want to cry, it makes you feel happy, and it's just so calming and somehow sad.
it also makes me feel like i'm at a concert.
i remember vaguely, the year I had depression while also being obsessed with getting better at Smash4. I noted that I never had dreams, but also remember lots of times in french class where I said to myself I would rather be at home playing smash right now. I remember at least once where I consciously daydreamed about a new combo idea. it ended up working because I knew the frame data for some moves and could guess the frame data for the other moves based on how long I remember them all taking in different situations. The audio was extremely helpful for that kind of recall.
Extremely smart and well-made video as always man! I haven't actually seen the trailer (going to do that), but this was utterly fascinating. And I have to say, the way you presented it evokes real documentaries, and I absolutely love it. Keep up the amazing work!! :D
Thanks so much Alex! I'm glad you found this interesting too haha, it was probably the first video I've made that was more about psychology than video games, so I appreciate the feedback :)
Your channel deserves more attention. Thanks for creating this video.
Thank *you* for the kind words!
I can leave a comment before the video premieres? UA-cam is wild
@@DarylTalksGames now I have to ask my brother (an avid tetris player) if he sees tetrominos in his dreams too, this is fascinating.
Be sure to comment back what he says, glad you found it as interesting as I did!
@@DarylTalksGames He said that it was true for him too. He has had dreams of tetris. Might be why he is so much better than me lol
Other people having dreams: solving problems and improving their IRL skills
Me having dreams: horrifically hyper-realistic nuclear annihilation
I think that what was interesting about Tetris is that it gets into our memory so quickly. I don't think such a large percantage of people playing football or programming for the first time would immediatelly have dreams about them. They are more complex activities, while Tetris hits a particulat sweet spot of intuitive yet absorbing.
The first time I honestly felt this effect in play was about 5 years ago. I was playing a new piece on the piano on summer break, and I was absolutely stumped by it. After trying to play it for half an hour, with little to no improvement, I flopped to my bed out of annoyance, and fell asleep.
After a few hours i woke up, and felt like giving the piece another shot. To my surprise, suddenly all the things that gave me so much trouble just, clicked, inside my head, and I managed to get over that hump.
Since then, I was very much aware of this effect, as I noticed a big improvment in my play whenever i was stuck on something, and went to sleep right after. It actually got me pretty motivated, as I knew that even if i hit a slump, and feel like im making no progress, my brain might sort it all out in the end while i go to sleep, so no effort is "wasted".
I had a similar experience while trying to up my skills in Smash. After trying to learn my character combos and how I should play in certain situations, I was literally practicing them in my dreams for several days. I would dream about being mid-battle and it was almost as if I was actually playing against another person, actually making new decisions. The crazy part was trying the things from the dreams actually boosted my skill quite a bit.
Absolutely loved this video! It was almost as hypnotic as that Tetris VR trailer, haha.
I just barely caught the premiere but enjoyed it nonetheless!
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for the kind words as always :)
I like how the ending of 50 First Dates lowkey supports that the information is stored just unable to be retrieved. Thats pretty cool really
Those last parts about him remembering his wife and the other guy seeing programming in his dream brought me a few tears.
Thanks a bunch Daryl, your videos are timeless.
I have no memory issues (at least, as far as I am aware), but the programming bit is way to relatable to me.
I'm a programmer and I often work till the late night. And I often have dreams in code. Not in a way I sit in front of the computer, but all I experience is code. All my thoughts, my body functions, my future plans and past days, all described in a form of a source code. Funny things happen when I wake up while having these dreams. It feels like changing the source code of my body to switch from a sleeping state into awake state. Makes a lot of sense before I wake up, but when I wake up it leaves me in "wtf" state, the real world feels weird for a while. Very trippy.
I think this kind of thing is also shown to a much more daily effect as well. After a day at the ocean, in my dreams I will feel the rocking of the waves and be confused when I wake up and I’m not feeling the waves anymore.
Amazing video. The visual design is outstanding and your voice is very calming. Great work!
even without sleepings, kinda like daydreams when my mind wonders, I will see cards set up for solitare and I will finish it but the cards sometimes change since its not real and I annoys me when that happens
First time here, this was highly interesting/informative. I was really wondering if the beginning narrative had any truth to it, or if it was really good storytelling. Glad to see it was indeed true. Thank you !
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks so much for watching :)
I saw your Dark Souls video about a year ago and absolutely loved it. Today I ordered a VR headset, that lead me to the Tetris trailer, and now back to another great video. Keep up the amazing work man. Glad to see your subs climbing!
Following you almost from the start and I absolutely love your videos. Psychology is a vast subject and having it so well presented in entertaining way must be really hard. Unique channel with great materials, hope to see your commercial success soon :)
I appreciate the kind words man! Thanks so much for sticking around so long :) I'm glad you find this stuff as fascinating as I do haha
I've been watching your videos sequentially since I found this channel and there is SO much greatness here!
It also happened to me with ideas. When I fall asleep trying to get an idea on my next creation, it comes in my dreams, sometimes.
This morning when I was dreaming I swear to god I saw tetris pieces falling into place, even though I have never really played the game that much. I'm buying it today because I fell like there is something about it that I need to figure out y'know.
Great video !
A month and a half ago I started playing Tetris 99 and I played it intensely for a few days, and everytime I went to sleep I saw those falling bricks, had to stop after a while because I thought I was starting to get crazy.
Anyway, I stumbled across your channel a few weeks ago and I can't get enough.
Keep up the great work !
Hugs from France ! :D
Great episode! I'm really interested in psychology, especially when gaming is involved. Your videos have such high production value - I'm certain the channel will take off once the UA-cam algorithm gives it the chance to breath.
I, too, have experienced that phenomenon where I'm stuck with a program that I can't complete because of a problem I can't figure out the solution to, and then I sleep and dream about programming and all sorts of ideas to solve it, and after I wake up, although I've already forgotten what my dream was about, all of a sudden, I get this idea and figure out the solution of the issue I have before. That's why we have this saying "Just sleep through it. You'll never know, you might dream about it."
Huh, interesting. So I'm not the only one that keeps playing a game in my head after hours of playing it irl. Even while trying to fall asleep. It happens especially with Tetris.
I’ve actually dreamt of ‘connected mode’ against the cpu
i think Tetris has the most addictive gameplay.
I actually have improved in certain subjects a lot thanks to dreaming about them. I used to study a lot at night and, probably because the information was very recent in my mind, I often had dreams about those subjects I had studied. Although some of the dreams were slightly nightmarish, I actually had better scores in the exams in which I had dreamed of the subjects than in other exams which I had not dreamed about. It's interesting to know that this is quite common.
When I first learned triple t spins I dreamed about triple t spins during the night
My god this video is criminally underviewed. Editing was pleasing and the subject matter was explained really well. As someone who's a diehard Tetris fan but understands little about psychology this video was extremely enlightening and gave me a clear understanding about the report, effects, and why it even happens to me. Thank you for this, I've subscribed and I hope I see more videos of yours in my feed.
Hey thank you so much for that! I'm glad you enjoyed. I have a degree in Psych and Tetris is one of my favorite games so when that trailer dropped and they started rattling off about that study, I was triggered haha. This video had to happen. Thanks for the love :)
Came to this channel on a whim. I have observed dreams and learned how to interpret them without all the mystical crap, because I figured out how to understand people's dream states from an emotional standpoint. I also know about the Tetris effect, as I have gotten it doing many things from gaming to watching TV shows. I can say that just doing something for an extended period of time will not create the Tetris effect. If you want to induce Tetris effect, the something you are doing has to have your undivided attention. You cannot be daydreaming and playing Tetris at the same time half-assed etc. You have to only think about Tetris, and get emotionally invested into it.
Another thing people don't talk about (or know about imo), is that it works in reverse too, via lucid dreaming. If you do something in a dream over and over, the information you learned can transfer into real life. But what's better, is that lucid dreams can be used to influence emotional and mental states on top of physical ones. Such as confronting your "Depression" in a Lucid dream, can create more positive emotions/letting go of things that are negative.
God can you imagine dreaming of falling blocks and just waking up, like I'd be wondering what drugs I was given
Very interesting. Keep up the good work!
This might be why when you're struggling with a boss and then you go to sleep and wake up and then you whoop the boss 1st try. Great video.
After joining my schools Tetris team, I thought I was going crazy after seeing the blocks everywhere
I dream like this every time I play puzzle games
I have just recently discovered your channel. Really enjoy your content! I study psychology and really like how you transfer the topics to the world of video games. 👍
Checks out. One time I was playing this mobile game called Influence, basically a very stripped down version of Risk, and afterwards sometimes when I closed my eyes I could see the coloured hexagons in the hexagonal grid from that game.
I've recently started having many dreams of the code I'm working on, at the same time as I've started programming multiple hours a day, every day. I wasn't paying too much attention to it, but now even my nightmares can be of me just... programming... something similar to what i program in my waking hours, but not anything concretely. I don't think I'm seeing the exact problem I'm dealing with (last night was about a problem I had actually already solved, I think), and I've never had the "I wake up, and I know the solution!" thing that the kid said, but often I've found that I'll be frustrated with something one day, and then the next when I start programming I'll kinda know a few different solutions I want to try, even though I don't know exactly when I think of them.
...is that why sometimes when I’m falling asleep I hear Minecraft noises?
I have the Left 4 Dead 2 Effect because images from my time playing that game flashes in my head. It's been half a year since I last played it. And I can still remember that game very well.
Daryl Talks Games, I subscribed because your videos are super cool!
Once i was in a class, suddenly heard a psst, promptly looked around trying to spot screech from doors.
Also once i played a lot of totk, and i was trying to show someone an easteregg in vrchat, we were a floor below so i tried to ascend. I rose my arm up and everything.
7:48 that's the most wholesome and sad scene I've seen a long while....
I played so much Tetris at one point in my life that I started seeing bricks fit together when I closed my eyes. A similar thing happened with lemmings.
There's a manga I've read in the past that actually encorporates this concept a lot. In Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles one of the main characters has her memories stolen and scattered across many universes. It takes a lot of power to travel between universes, so the second main character, who wants to save her and return her memories, is forced to pay a great price in order to gain the ability to travel between them. That price is that she will never regain any of her memories of him, and that proves true throughout the rest of the entire series iirc. She doesn't get those memories back, they remain as blank spaces, and any time she starts to suspect that she may have known him before, she immediately forgets that she ever even suspected it to begin with.
However, there are still many moments where she acts in ways around him that she acted before, she feels very comfortable with him, she says a lot of the same things to him that she's said before, etc. Other characters who are aware of the reality of the situation have commented that "even when the mind forgets, the body remembers" indicating that muscle memory is stronger than even the series most powerful magic. This video just reminded me of that pretty strongly.
I don't know how I missed. This is so good!
Last night I dreamt I was playing smash Bros, guess my brain thinks that's an important skill
I got recommended this video and
I have watch this 3 times
It's too good
Keep it up man
Whenever I see tetrominos falling on a landscape, all I can think of is Tetris'D
Just missed the premiere somehow and have to leave can’t wait to watch it later though!
I legit learned how to skate vert and mini ramps from dreams. I'm mostly skilled at street skateboarding. The few times I went to skateboard parks with ramps ended with some bad injuries. I just couldn't anticipate or get used to the sudden speed changes and inverted angles of performing tricks that come from ramp skateboarding. Then I had a whole week of realistic dreams where I was ramp skating far in excess of my abilities. A weeks worth of similar dreams is weird enough. But these dreams were indistinguishable from reality, I felt everything I was doing. On the hunch that this was significant I went to a skatepark just to see if my inkling was valid. And sure enough it was like I advanced 2 years in skating ramp experience. I could barely rock to fakie on a mini ramp after dropping in and now I could almost air out of vert on halfpipes and had no problem throwing my bag of tricks on vert too. I could pump so much better I easily drop down a pyramid and ollied off a funbox over the rail to flat. It was nuts.
There have even been anecdotal reports of people seeing and virtually playing the game at their peripheral vision even while driving. I believe I also read that sometimes buildings will be points to fit tetrinos together. Also they legit can see the pieces falling clearly in their central vision and such.
"They even found out that those who improved the _most_ slept for 8 hours."
School: *_SEE?!?!?!?!?_*
so hmm the fact that i dream almost every night of running for my life from something trying to kill me may just be preparation.. got it
8:58 .. that happens with me too.. back when I started learning programming.. it used to happen almost daily ..
And at the moment I wake up, everything around me gets translated into the programming language that I'm using..
Things like variables.. formulas.. even options and if statements
When I first and intensely started playing with a rubiks cube, the pattern recognition and 3 dimensional puzzle solving was very exhausting on my brain, both short term memory and processing. When I closed my eyes after 2 hours, I still saw that cube in my mind, almost on the inside of my eyelids, constantly turning to solve one side to the next, always scrambling the others in the process. It was actually very uncomfortable, almost painfull, not being able to shut it off.
I also played this game called gridwars 2 (ua-cam.com/video/Ch-Fbdbd7is/v-deo.html&t), with its neon colored geometrical shapes over that deep black background. You move the player shuttle with the arrow keys, trying to dodge and flee the randomly floating or homeing enemies by moving it around the screen, while at the same time shooting in the direction you point with the mouse independantly. It calls on periferal vision, spacial awareness, and multitasking, which can also be very exhausting. After a while one developes some sort of tunnel vision, no longer focusing on the player shuttle, cursor position, or even the stuff chasing you, nor planing the next move, but on the whole picture and the momentary state. The reactionary part of the brain takes over and it becomes a very zen experience. But similar to the rubics cube, when I closed my eyes and went to sleep, I still saw those glowing neon shapes flying around in my head in front of my eyes, lingering for a long time.
Wow, I've also had a similar experience, also with a Rubik's cube - not learning how to solve it, though, instead trying to come up with an interesting pattern that could be made on a 4x4x4. When I slept after a long period of unsuccessful tries, in my dream I had this uncomfortable, seemingly dragging-on-for-a-very-long-time experience of trying to do something with the cube, but always being very confused and fuzzy about what I was doing, just feeling uncomfortable of a problem that I try to solve but that just never actually makes sense. Waking up from similar experiences also felt weird, I kept feeling fuzzy and confused but also following some very weird logic for some time, until I slowly start to understand that the real word is not like that and everything actually makes comfortable sense.
I remember this one time I peed and suddenly felt the need to save my progress, it hunts me to this day
Well. This explains how that dude discovered the structure of benzene on his sleep.
Procedural memories FTW!!!
Oh, ths reminds me that ive had several dreams where I'm basically inside Minecraft, and running around and doing stuff
i remember once i spent 8 hours daily solving rubiks cube, i started moving pieces on real life and organizing objects by color on my mind
Amazing video I'm excited to watch more of what you have made 💡🙏
I love this channel!
This is a great deal like muscle memory. If you have ever driven the same route over and over as a delivery driver, you know know that you dont have to think about the next turn, or memorize the route, you can rely on muscle memory.
cool! sometimes i dream about stuff i could draw
I’ve had a similar experience to the dream thing except with Dr. Mario. I played a lot of Dr. Mario 64 with my parents. Sometimes, my mind would get distracted in other situations like at church, and I would think of crazy combos I could make in the game if I could only get a board like it.
Great vid! I am a machinist and have lots of stress dreams trying to debug code. They are anxiety inducing loops and no matter if I wake up or try and think about something else I still fall back into the same stressful loop. I was trying to learn arduino code yesterday and had a terrible Tetris like dream loop about it last night.
I don’t know if anybody else has this but I definitely don’t have any “Aha” moments. It’s just anxiety and stress.
i was just hovering over the thumbnail and all i could think was, "why do i see kimi no nawa?"
As someone who plays competitive modern tetris. Watching the blocks fall so slow hurts me
When I sleep there are flying boats and the strange guilt of not being able to do something on my back.
I’m at uni training to go into the games industry and the amount of times I will do uni work in a program such as maya or z brush and then as I’m falling asleep start dreaming about ways to progress the project I’m stuck on is hoenstly quite scarry. I always just assumed it was because I had adhd and couldn’t switch my Brian off but this is making me think otherwise
the motto of the story, if you fall in place you stop existing
I love when he goes deep into the psychology stuff
1:04 the "do do do" sound gave me an instant nightmare
Idk if all the versions had the 3 beeps
My mind went, do do do; The FitnessGram Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds. Line up at the start. The running speed starts slowly but gets faster each minute after you hear this signal. A sing lap should be completed every time you hear this sound. ding Remember to run in a straight line and run as long as possible. The second time you fail to complete a lap before the sound, your test is over. The test will begin on the word start. On your mark. Get ready!… Start.
I think this video motivated me to fix my sleep schedule
i can feel the work in this video
I used to get this when i was really obsessed with chess. I want it back.
Maybe I'm a little bit late, but here's my experience, as a chess player my dreams are full of pawns, bishops, knights,rooks, queens and kings everywhere, even specific positions i'm not used to play, that's probably why sometimes i have sort felling of deja vu. But what i think is weird should be the moments when even awake y see those things, like eating or talking with someone and seeing this annoying bishop hunting me.
When I started playing LoL I dreamt of champion abilities and basic attacks but in the background of the real world. It was really trippy
That piano player guy, the way he greets his wife when she enters a room, even if she's just in the other room, is the most heartwarming thing. He's always super excited to see her every time he sees her. I think I just described a puppy.
aaronamaphone Right?? Gets me every time, look it up with audio, hes so pumped.
I usually dream a lot, and its really realistic, and when i play a game a lot during one day sometimes i will sleep about it. Im not like a prodigy or something like that i just dream about it
I have dreams about Skyrim
Does his apply to day dreaming? I once got really addicted to minesweeper and I would daydream about different little tricks I came up with. It almost became annoying and the same thing happened with another game I started playing to get my mind off of minesweeper.
Great video! How does this connect with the concept of "mechanical transference"?
That's a great question man, and to be honest I don't know if I could do the answer justice haha. But to take a crack at it, I would think that mechanical transference only comes into play for those that make some sort of emotional investment in playing the game. Procedural info often rears its head in dreams, but so does emotionally charged info. So I think if anyone has that emotional investment in any game, they are even more likely to experience the hypnagogic dreams. I hope that makes sense! haha
@@DarylTalksGames it does, thanks for the answers! I had similar experiences when playing The Witness, Hashiwokakero, or Slither Link. Puzzle games related to lines and numbers kinda make my mind dream about lines and numbers, plus kinda seeing in the environment around me.
Would it be a stretch in your opinion to say that mechanical transference kinda "needs" the tetris effect to happen?
Hmm, interesting. I wonder if this can somehow be applied to AI learning.
A bot does a task and gets feedback while being "awake", shaping for example its reward function according to the f-
Wait, this is just reward modeling, isn't it?
All this reminds me of a corrupted hard drive (like a part of it).
Could we get a video on the basic design for Tetris? Maybe how it fills a basic desire to pack and organize? It’s one of the most popular video games in the world and yet it’s design has not been talked about much (certainly not as much as Dark Souls >.>)
Also, I’m making a Tetris-inspired game now, so it’d help a lot. Whatever video you make: thanks in advance Daryl!
i can say it happened to me not while sleeping (yet) but while day dreaming sooo yea its wild
I know nothing about psychology, but I find this so interesting