Excuse me, I'm a 48 year old lawyer (not a 43 year old insurance salesmen) who takes club racing way too seriously. I'll keep tricking out and overhauling my 2016 R1 and probably upgrade to either a V4 or M1000RR when the time comes. I'm a fairly seasoned and skilled track rider, but still a world away from tapping, let alone exceeding the potential of my 8 year old bike. I'll never get an R9 or anything less powerful than the last bike I owned. Lower laptimes are my life's purpose. Everything else is just a means to ride or a distraction until I can ride again.
Why is this so hard for the R1 fanboys to understand? 4 cylinder motorcycles are not going to be emission compliant in the future... they are going away whether you like it or not... be happy the R9 isn't electric.
One manufacturer responding to one region doesn't spell doom for the whole industry, and they will still make track-only models. We don't need them to pass emissions. And as for the electric bikes, when they start performing better than gas powered engines, I'll be happy to switch over.
Yamaha also said the R9 doesnt replace the R6, they know the legend of the r6 isnt something they can just 'recreate' That said though, same HP with alot more torque, and only 12.5k$. Closest replacement we'll get
It depends on the brand. Suzuki may get a lot of flack for not reinventing their line year after year, but you can buy 80% of their lineup for $12,000 or less and most for about $9k. Too bad the Europeans can’t or won’t do this. As long as Suzuki and Kawasaki keep things reasonable, I’m good but I totally agree with the point. Most European bikes are way out of range of the majority of riders and that’s a problem for riders and, probably soon, them too.
@TheSteveSteele A gsrx 600 is $12,000, and a gsxr 1000 is $16,000. The new R1 is close to $20,000; those should be car prices. Bikes used to be affordable go fast. Now, if you can afford a bike and a car, you are spending close $40,000-$60,000 - just buy a sports car.
No sh*t, I bought one of the very first R6's (1999 model) for $5999+TTT back then in Jacksonville, Fl. When it was first released and had put a deposit on it about 6 months before it was even released as it was the most Hyped up new Super Sport to be released and if memory serves me Right I paid around $6200 out the door and that was no Sale price being I got one of the first in the city and they literally had a waiting list when they were first released hence why I had to put a deposit on it like 6 months earlier to get 1 of the First ones and at the time the dealer was only allocated 3 bikes in the very first shipment and they were all spoken for and they had none in the show room yet... But my point is that they have almost doubled in price since then..
I just raced a 2024 R1 in Utah this year. Spent as much on go-fast parts as the bike itself. Took off all the street for race parts to make it run and breathe properly. At my local club-racer level (and am 51 years old) I really enjoy the bike for racing and track days immensely. I do have disposable income to spend on my passion however, would not recommend any 1000 CC bike for the street. Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast than it is to try to ride a fast bike fast. Do what makes you happy!
I’m a 59 year old retired guy and I’m an R1 lover. I had a 98 R1 and a 2004 R1. Both were amazing bikes and I wish I had never sold them. My current sport bike is an S1000RR and I love it as well. But the soft spot remains for a R1 and the R1M maybe in my garage someday.
Try subscribing to the official MotoGp channel if you're not already. Crash also does a regular podcast which comes to mind immediately and there are a number of channels that cover MotoGP. Cheers.
@@ApexRadius The problem is that Dorna exerts too much control over MotoGp and WSBK. I'm not going to pay that much for access to their channels, and they're not going to give me access unless I pay, and that's the way the cookie crumbles. I can live without it.
How tf do they think locking most people OUT is going to drive up revenue? Everybody used to know every f1 drivers and subsequently all the brands the associate with. That doesnt happen anymore Nobody cares anymore because you have to pay to watch
@@peterwilson8039 @peterwilson8039 I was referring to the free official MotoGP YT channel and third party analysis on YT channels like the aforementioned Crash YT channel. But as a longtime all-access MGP app subscriber, yes, it has gotten quite expensive over the years.
@@peterwilson8039I was referring to the free official MotoGP YT channel and third party analysis on YT channels like the aforementioned Crash YT channel. But as a longtime all-access MGP app subscriber, yes, it has gotten quite expensive over the years.
Papa Yam Another great video I guess people don’t realize how much post production work goes into one of these videos, but kudos. Glad the weather is holding out because after I watch your video I’m gonna go out riding on my 2024 MT-09SP rock ‘n’ roll baby.
HTF does anyone who knows anything about performance, get excited for a 3 cylinder supersport bike? They do not have an advantage over an I4 where top end and high rev horsepower are concerned, and that's what supersport bikes do.
@@MichaelPullins-h8z Because I'm going to ride it on the street. I like the torque lower in the rev range, and as cool as having 200hp is, I'd rather have 120-ish on the street.
I'm a 50yo who's owned R1's and other big sports bikes all my adult life, and I agree. I think we've entered an era where the Japanese corporations are far more budget conscious than they once were. Ever stricter emissions regs has played a part in this. The "everyman" sports bikes that they all produce are cheaper to make and cheaper for the consumer to buy. No brainer, really. But, I do hope they will still continue to produce affordable flagships. Any auto manufacturer can produce a super car if they want to, but few people can afford to own them.
@@davew8841 brother, 46 yo here, maybe makes sense to grab a fresh zx10 and preserve it, it’s still made as it should be without planned obsolescence in mind. Maybe because Kawa produces less bikes than other big three but is actually a huge corporation that builds navy ships and tankers, loads of money, bikes are toy project for them.
Budget consciousness should go right TF out the window when we are talking about flagship performance vehicles. A prime example is why TF did Nissan put an intrinsically IMBALANCED V6 engine in their 'flagship performance car'? "Let's build the VH45DE V8?" CEO: nN0pE! "Let's retool the RB and put a proper INLINE 6 in there?" CEO: N3g@t1Ve. dURp! CEO: "wE WuNT tHUh WurST EnJ3n tYPe 4 pUrf0rmUNz"
so i uploaded a video recently where i went to go see the R9 in person and let me tell you, I was skeptical until i saw it in person, definitely the new king of the castle.
Yamaha never said they were cancelling the R1. They said they were not supplying it to Europe. The R1M was going to be supplied to Europe. Australia, Asia and America was always getting the R1.
Oh dear, how sad, never mind. suck it up. try riding with your full kit in an OZZY summer. i feel most sorry for those who live in climates where you don't get warm weather, ever.
@@TheSteveSteele ps when I bought new r1 in 2009 in the spring I was riding in Prague and had her boiled off because of long red lights and hot weather. I immediately forgot about the warranty, had cat removed, straight pipe with an end can installed and it solved all summer overheating issues. Cats are evil on bikes.
@@JustinAguirre-sy2br I live in Texas and ride year round which is one Texas highlight, riding around in January, can't do that in NY, Cleveland or GA. I don't ride my bikes in summer rush hours not only because it's too hot and dumb, but Dallas Ft worth area drivers will try and kill you lols. However, I ride year round not in traffic, superbikes aren't meant for traffic in any state.
I'm about to turn 73 yrs young! I'm an avid mountain biker so I'm in excellent health and fitness. I also own a highly modified 2009 R1 and am blessed to live where there are roads to enjoy such a bike. Granted, I don't do track days anymore and have become a way smarter rider on the street but still like to wind it up to 140+ on my favorite straightaway to get the juices flowing! I have plenty of mountain twisties along with fast flowing roads with good line of sight. Bottom line is, I love riding my R1 because it reliable, paid for, has great performance, looks good, and sounds awesome too! Thank the good Lord I can still handle this beast!!! Like I tell many of my non rider friends... "It's so much fun to ride it should be illegal". So, my advice is to be healthy and fit and keep enjoying your 1000cc sportbikes and ride smart so you can ride tomorrow! (How many people do you know that are my age and still ride 1000cc crotch rockets?)
The most interesting move in the WSBK scene is the Kawasaki ZX10RR getting replaced by a Bimota based around the ZX10RR engine. And the upcoming Ducati Panigale V4R with the new conventional swing arm. The supersport category is the most interesting one. The KTM 990 RC-R, Yamaha R9, CF Moto 800rr going against the established Panigale V2 & MV 800RR.
Yeah, I find the new age supersort classes really interesting these days. I'm not entirely sure why some people want to see only essentially 20-year-old 600 I-4s race each other.
@@ApexRadius Happy to see that the ZX6R & CBR600RR Are still in the mix, but yeah, it's been a bit stale for a long time. Since it's inception, supersports has always been the 600 i4s plus the junior Ducati V2
Year round rider in Michigan. Get some heated gear, drive the truck for the 20% of the days when the roads are icy, enjoy 2 wheels the rest of the time.
They are not because the stroke of a parallel twin causes the crank to be unstable or unbalanced, thus needing different engineering at the crankshaft to solve this. Where v twins or v4s do not... also inline 4s ironically do not have this problem. This is why parallel twins rev out completely differently than their counterpart inline 4s and v4s.
I wanted a R1 but when I saw the price for full coverage at my age of 35 (they were asking for 4k for the year) I passed on it. I do regret it though because I still have the literbike itch. I bought a Scout 101 which is also fun and comfortable but it’s not a Supersport by any means. For comparison the 2025 Scout 101 for me is $500 for full coverage for the year vs a 2024 R1 $4000 with progressive. I’m not going to gamble with liability insurance(I learned that’s how a lot of people ride here in Texas on their literbikes)
You hit the nail on the head, definitely that Suzuki kind of updates, with the major success of the T7 and upcoming R9 there are getting very complacent
The difference this ground is Yamaha has no flagship bike to sell to the EU having discontinued the R1. V4’s clearly can be made to meet regulations, Yamaha will want to fill the gap. Hence v4 flagship. Just my hypothesis.
this was basically what honda's been doing with the cbr600rr. They released the new bike in europe and japan but the us has been getting the same old bike since 2013
In the 5 years I was in bike sales, I figure at least 90% of the R1's I sold were to police. (I guess it's the perfect bike when you're immune to tickets.)
One reason why sales decline for these types of bikes is increased insurance coverage prices it’s absurd how expensive it is for me to insure a bike ok yes I’m young so that’s obviously a factor as to why it’s more expensive but even at that I’m pay £250 pounds a month roughly 326 dollars 300 euros for a ktm duke 125 so that’s nearly 2500 a year for a bike that only cost me 3k
Yammie therapy gives orange juice and a sugar cookie... after crying ! (Now?) I have the confidence to ride off into the sunset... Thank you Dr. Yammie
Not motorcycle related but those vessi shoes are pretty nice. I’ve always wore non slip over the ankle boots at my job. I put around 10k steps every shift so ima have to give those shoes a try. Mr. Yams do you know if they fit true to size or I’ll have to size up or size down?
Holy crap! Someone wrote this script who has a pretty deep knowledge of motorcycle racing! Was that you Yam? Pretty good fer a guy with an ADV bike in the garage!
I think that there's several things that are leading to the downfall of sportsbikes: 1. They were common in the past because the naked equivalent was huge stonking things like XJR1300s, MT01s, B-Kings and others that were never designed for proper performance. 2. With naked bikes now getting fast engines and great componentry like Ohlins/KYB and Brembo etc the gulf in performance between sportsbikes and naked bikes that was there 20-25 years ago is rapidly dwindling. The performance benefits of a sportsbike therefore are making it harder to justify the negatives of the riding position, higher insurance costs and higher chance of major damage if you suffer a drop. 3. The pricing is getting out of control. Here in Australia the standard 10 years ago was high teens for your liter class bikes. It's now high 20s/low 30s. Of course everything is getting more expensive but that pyschological 20k barrier is real and now you have most of your proper middleweight and liter nakeds in that space like the MT09, Z900, Dukes, etc and the performance on everything bar track is so much more livable and usable as a general ride bike.
AND it will do nothing if Yamaha doesn't address top end power. Corner speed and keeping the nose down under acceleration was never it's weakness compared to Ducati and BMW
Question for everyone: I can't decide between the standard/base 2025 Honda CBR1000RR or the standard/base 2025 Yamaha R1? Price difference is not a factor. I like both but can't buy both, lol. There can only be one!
Meanwhile at Kawasaki HQ, strippers on poles, dj spinning something between rege and speed metal and every ceo has a shovel full of blow in front of them.....new for 2025.....NAKED UPTUNED H2! CAN I GET A HELL YES!?
No one wants to buy a Japanese bike for 28K. THIS is why the bikes do not change. These are toy bikes, used on occasion, a second bike. It’s over. Welcome to our new crap economy.
Yep and the people in europe, latin america and asia who use bikes as their primary vehicle probably can't afford a 28k or even an 18k bike to begin with.
Except Honda did produce (and sell in the US) the rc213v-s road bike from 2015 to 2018. Very rare and very pricey to own and run. Just ask IOM-TT vet Michael Rutter who raced one on the island for many years.
Vessi sneakers designed in Vancouver made in Taiwan. Yam is ok with this. CFMoto designed in Austria by Kiska Design and made in China. Yam is not ok with this. Before Yam throws a fit about the QJMotors Super 9 with a price tag at 10,000USD being another Chinese ripoff of MV Agusta's Superveloce 1000 Series Oro. The Super 9 is a collaboration between MV Agusta and QJMotors. Just giving all the Yam peeps a heads up with all the facts before he unleashes the Chinese Motorcycle Tantrum again.
@@MickH60 seeing as CFMoto hasn't had the same issues with their 800 that KTM is having with the 790/890 line, they definitely did something. Hell, it might be what KTM finally implemented on their 2024 motors as they have a new head design.
I just test rode a 2025 GSX-R600. The salesman told me they have an R9 coming. I don't know if he meant that they have something on paper like a bill of laden or something.
I heard about the 2027 regulations and saw tons of people screaming blasphemy. I’m new to the sport and actually think it will be really interesting. Even watching moto3 and moto2 is super exciting, and really the lap times to motoGP aren’t THAT much faster. What’s fun is seeing the skill level and determination of the riders. Going to 850cc will only push manufacturers to innovate and bring us cool new products. I hope….
In the 80s i working at the local bike shop, i was married, had a Cutlass and an 88 fzr 1000, then i decided to turn my cutlass into and roundy round car cuz my wife still had her car right?, well then i got divorced..I spent 2 years on the FZR being my only source of transportation. Not a enjoyable experience
Chinese and India's motorcycle markets are booming tho. I believe South-Eastern Asia will pretty soon join in on this. There bikes are used in daily life and many people prefer them to cars. As a result, a great number of people know how to ride and wouldn't mind upgrading to something bigger than their normal 100cc scooters if there's a chance
@@markosz22 Race-bred bikes don't bring quite as much money, they're mostly for image. I believe it's a matter of time and capital. Once Chinese and Indian brands are established and stable, they may start producing something less practical and more image-oriented
As a rider with a 14 r1 I love mine but I will say for a upgrade from the 14 the 2025 would be a great upgrade for me I love the fact they finally put Brembos on it the winglets don’t bother me like that I always loves the 2024 model so even if it’s just a slightly upgraded 2024 for me and upgrading from a 14 is great over getting a 2024….if they do decide to kill the r1 inline 4 then I would like to have the last r1 they make which might be this one if there happen to be a change. For most of the complaints about the r1 is track issues but street wise the bike is totally fine and will be just as much I’m sure more fun then my 14. Not sure when the 2025 will be out for sale but I’m getting one
Here in Brazil the last R1 Yamaha brought us was the 2015, the bike parts, and bike prices are off the charts, we are getting charged around 35k for a 0 km R3 and our 2025 R3 seems to stay as the 2021 looks until they want tô bring the new one. In the middle to end of 2025. Kinda anoying, not gonna lie, wanting tô join in a R3 but wanting this "R1 front end". So i Will be sitting down here gathering 3 years of my payment to pay for It. :l
*If* you can afford it, there is nothing like a 1000cc bike on track. I am lucky enough to live 45 Minutes away from the Dutch TT at Assen. I own a 450cc two zylinder with lousy 27 horsepower for leasure rides in the country side, but on track, I don't want 3 cylinders, I don't want "tame" or "manageble" I want my 4 zylinder 1000cc Superstock watering my eyes, when exiting a corner. For all I care they can just stop making them road legal. I haven't riden my liter bikes on the road in years. And btw, you can take club racing way to seriously at a much younger age :D
I'm loving these daily vids. I'd love to see one about basic maintenance for new riders... When I bought my Honda CB500F from my local yamaha honda dealership I knew I was getting scammed and knew I wasn't going to be coming back for their in house first maintenance (though I do wonder if it would have been worth the $500 charge for a "free first maintenance"). I didn't have a bike cover or drop kit, didn't protect my helmet from scratches. Had no idea when to change my oil or brake fluid, when to check my tire air pressure... No idea the difference between cleaning and waxing my chain (you'd think to just google it but yknow- slipped my mind I guess). Basically, I was an idiot. After having to replace my warped handlebars -$150, and have my front brake taken apart and cleaned- I started wondering, "Why isn't there a video out there talking about how to take care of your bike when you're not on it.?" I think it could be a great topic for your channel. Cheers!
2015 R1 rider here! Not an insurance salesman, not going 180 in a straight line. Neither 19 or 43. I just ride it to work without exceeding the speed limit.
The r7 and r9 are great stepping stones for sport bike riders to get into the sport. However, we could see yamaha do what honda did and have some v4 configurations in different models. The r7 amd r9 are great street sport bikes. I do wish we had something cazy fast for the streets and track and not just a old r6 model.
Most most people can barely deal with an R7 on track. And the ones who are skilled enough, which is far less than those who perceive themselves that way, will never justify a company keeping a specific model alive for just a few. It's not reasonable to expect otherwise.
I think people are wrongly assuming the R9 is one of the new friendly-mild-middleweight sporty bike segment. It has the potential to be faster than the R6 everywhere except maybe long straights. Top speed is not what wins races. Getting through corners--and getting out of them early on the gas with more power down is primarily what wins races. Let's wait to see what the R9 is really like when people actually get to ride it. We don't even know what the actual stock power figures are yet. But some people have already done some quick math with the MT-09 power figures and the new final drive gearing and it seems to indicate that the R9 will be at least as fast as the R6 in a straight line and possibly faster. It should accelerate faster. And, objectively, it should be a much better road bike than an R6. We'll see.
@@ApexRadius yeah exactly. This will give people the ability to have R6 speeds with much wider torque ranges when coming out of straights, which is useful both on road and on track. I don't think the main anger is oriented towards this replacing the R6 but the R1 not being a thing anymore though.
@@lucascarracedo7421 For sure but, IMO, there's a couple of misguided speculations around the R9 specifically. One is that it's a replacement for the R1. It's really not. It's just that the R1 won't be available as a road bike in many markets. Yamaha is essentially surrendering that market to other manufacturers. That's pretty telling. They don't sell enough to make it worthwhile to keep developing the current bike. Superbikes are only really viable as high-priced halo bikes and for racing homologation these days. Another is that the R9 isn't essentially a replacement for the R6. It's quite different than an R6 but it fills the same space in the market and is almost certainly a more flexible and useable bike in more situations than the R6.
@@ApexRadius yeah exactly. I agree with everything. This being close to a 1000cc bike gets people confused and they don't know what to make of it. Also, as you stated, everyone's talking and nobody had the chance to ride one. So there's that.
Don't hate me but my opinion is that because of the economy, a lot of people can't afford 2 bikes and a sport tourer is a better all-around bike for people who also want comfort and practicality, not just performance
I think I agree with you when you say Yamaha probably won't make the R1 a v4, but hear me out. With the CEO saying, "The R1 is a symbol. There is purpose in it existing even if we don't sell one of them." Does show a chance that after the 850 comes out in world super bike we might get at least an update. IF they did do a V4 R1, we'd be looking at min R1M prices for the base model. With the R9 coming out they'd have a cheaper "super bike for the streets" and the crazy expensive R1. Which is the only reason I have a small hope.
The problem with Superbike racing today started when Ducaudi was allowed to cheat by the FIM. The day they rolled out their MotoGP bike with wings on it which was strictly prohibited in the rulebooks under no downforce allowed. They flat out lied and said it was for redirecting air to cool the rear tire, all the other teams complained, the stewards investigated and found out it was a lie and the wings were for downforce and then...nothing! It was dropped! No fines, nothing, it was never mentioned again. All the other teams were left scrambling to catch up! Ducaudi didn't just boldly show up that day after spending millions on wind tunnel testing and working with aerospace aerodynamicists not knowing what the outcome would be, they knew. They were also allowed to use the same ECU as their satellite teams which is illegal to allow them longer testing times but with less power, they threatened to pull out of MotoGP if they didn't get their way which would be 1/3 of the field so the FIM allowed it. Once they got their way, they reprogrammed the ECU's back to top spec, It's a disgrace! Their satellite teams also feed the Factory teams all their testing info. The FIM needs to go and so does Ducaudi, ever since Audi bought them they've become a ruthless, evil, corrupt company.
How hard is it for manufacturers to just work by order for like the R1. I don’t know anything about marketing & distribution so just a random question that pops up in my head. Like just have the R1 to only be ordered instead of making a bunch of them & having to lose on money.
I am all for legislation to protect the environment and increase public safety but going after motorcycles first, and harder, than on energy powerplants/etc seems very out of place. Unlike what we see in the US, Europeans use motorcycles as their regular commute vehicles.
Street bikes in the pattern of the 1390 SuperDuke R are the way. I've had 3 R1s and a couple of MT10s, among dozens of other bikes. They were terrific, but the SDR topped them easily in desirability for street riding.
@@leanit5756 I absolutely love my 1290. After racing R1, ZX10 and such. Superbike is totally pointless on streets, being a track weapon. Bike like SDR is probably 70% street 30% track, due to comfortable higher seating, mostly. Engine wise it’s godly on track. Usable from bottom to top. In race starts, corner exits totally eats 1000 alive. On long straights yes they catch up by the end but if you brave on brakes, and they are amazing on SDR, they shall not pass )
I made the move to a super naked 5 years ago and I love it and will not go back. I'm seriously thinking about moving to the hyper-naked SDR....I've talked with several people with SD's and several have mentioned being in the shop too much for my liking so that's got me a little hesitant.....how is yours holding up?
@@razorbak6783 Well I had the 1290 and sold it. It had no faults while I owned it, although a few things chapped my ass. The first was that on deceleration there was a weird throttle blip thing it did. around 4,000 RPM. The 1390 I own now does not do that. Both the 1290 and the 1390 would be improved if the switch clusters were moved inboard by at least a 1/4". On both bikes I frequently accidentally / unknowingly activate the high beams, +/- switches, and C1/C2 switch, especially when riding really aggressively. That aside, the 1390 has been flawless so far too, and the adjustable wheelie control is the slickest thing. Put her in 3rd, get to about 7,000 RPM and roll the throttle quickly and you get the best power wheelies ever. Bike is quite spacious and comfortable. Gets good gas mileage for what it is, and has terrific ergonomics (other than the switch pods thing).
@@chrisbenko6616 Compared to a R1 on the street, the 1390s brakes are better, it is way more comfortable, and the suspension is better and easier to adjust (electronic). The dash is WAY better and the cruise control is of course quite convenient. I have not rode my 1390 on track yet, but did plenty with my two R1s and my R1M. I considered them pretty magical there other than their front brakes.
i plan on buying a new-ish r1 in a couple years but i am NOT spending over 10k on one, 10k for a bike is insane, mr noob what do you think i should do? would it be possible to find a 2015+ r1 in 2 years for less than 10k, even 7k?
People definitely still want and are buying super bikes😂…….they just going to Facebook to buy them for cheaper with a few miles and work already done than going to a dealership getting taxed out the ass 😂. I definitely still see superbikes everywhere
Eh, ill be fine with my 2012 r1, and may get a used 18-24 model later on. Dont really care whether or not i get the newest iteration. I honestly prefer the comfortability of the mt10 anyways, just wish the engines got the same treatment the full fledged r1 gets with better internals. Heard too many horror stories of them blowing up.
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@@vlaaa_0.0 yeah Idiocracy here we are!! The movie of the year is "ASS"
Excuse me, I'm a 48 year old lawyer (not a 43 year old insurance salesmen) who takes club racing way too seriously. I'll keep tricking out and overhauling my 2016 R1 and probably upgrade to either a V4 or M1000RR when the time comes. I'm a fairly seasoned and skilled track rider, but still a world away from tapping, let alone exceeding the potential of my 8 year old bike. I'll never get an R9 or anything less powerful than the last bike I owned. Lower laptimes are my life's purpose. Everything else is just a means to ride or a distraction until I can ride again.
Why is this so hard for the R1 fanboys to understand? 4 cylinder motorcycles are not going to be emission compliant in the future... they are going away whether you like it or not... be happy the R9 isn't electric.
Only@JoeStanek-vu7rl non compliant in commy Europe
@@JoeStanek-vu7rl Yamaha ER1
One manufacturer responding to one region doesn't spell doom for the whole industry, and they will still make track-only models. We don't need them to pass emissions. And as for the electric bikes, when they start performing better than gas powered engines, I'll be happy to switch over.
@@JoeStanek-vu7rl Trump will probably kill emissions standards.
R7 was never the r6 replacement. The r7 was always meant to compete with the 650 class and the r9 is the actual r6 replacement
Yamaha also said the R9 doesnt replace the R6, they know the legend of the r6 isnt something they can just 'recreate'
That said though, same HP with alot more torque, and only 12.5k$. Closest replacement we'll get
its not a r6 replacement ..... its just like the r7 a totally different bike made from a naked to keep the profit margins high
@@wlt3585 they said that as a pr move lol it’s their new super sport class bike
@@banana-ui2qd no it’s not they built this bike to compete in the super sport class again which you will see in the near future
Parallel twins are sooooo boring. Sorry. I hate them
You ever think that bikes aren't selling like they used to because prices are out of control?
I can't believe how many new 1000s I still see given the crazy price jump over 600s
Yeah even the used market it pricey. Pretty ridiculous actually.
It depends on the brand. Suzuki may get a lot of flack for not reinventing their line year after year, but you can buy 80% of their lineup for $12,000 or less and most for about $9k. Too bad the Europeans can’t or won’t do this. As long as Suzuki and Kawasaki keep things reasonable, I’m good but I totally agree with the point. Most European bikes are way out of range of the majority of riders and that’s a problem for riders and, probably soon, them too.
@TheSteveSteele A gsrx 600 is $12,000, and a gsxr 1000 is $16,000. The new R1 is close to $20,000; those should be car prices.
Bikes used to be affordable go fast. Now, if you can afford a bike and a car, you are spending close $40,000-$60,000 - just buy a sports car.
No sh*t, I bought one of the very first R6's (1999 model) for $5999+TTT back then in Jacksonville, Fl. When it was first released and had put a deposit on it about 6 months before it was even released as it was the most Hyped up new Super Sport to be released and if memory serves me Right I paid around $6200 out the door and that was no Sale price being I got one of the first in the city and they literally had a waiting list when they were first released hence why I had to put a deposit on it like 6 months earlier to get 1 of the First ones and at the time the dealer was only allocated 3 bikes in the very first shipment and they were all spoken for and they had none in the show room yet... But my point is that they have almost doubled in price since then..
I dont think spending 3/4 of my annual income on my hobby and wearing my track gear to Walmart is taking things too serious.
LOL, the fact you shop at Wal-mart worries me more than you riding to it in full gear.
I just raced a 2024 R1 in Utah this year. Spent as much on go-fast parts as the bike itself. Took off all the street for race parts to make it run and breathe properly. At my local club-racer level (and am 51 years old) I really enjoy the bike for racing and track days immensely. I do have disposable income to spend on my passion however, would not recommend any 1000 CC bike for the street. Its more fun to ride a slow bike fast than it is to try to ride a fast bike fast. Do what makes you happy!
I’m a 59 year old retired guy and I’m an R1 lover. I had a 98 R1 and a 2004 R1. Both were amazing bikes and I wish I had never sold them. My current sport bike is an S1000RR and I love it as well. But the soft spot remains for a R1 and the R1M maybe in my garage someday.
Loved the MotoGP section :)
There's close to no UA-cam coverage of the sport
Try subscribing to the official MotoGp channel if you're not already. Crash also does a regular podcast which comes to mind immediately and there are a number of channels that cover MotoGP. Cheers.
@@ApexRadius The problem is that Dorna exerts too much control over MotoGp and WSBK. I'm not going to pay that much for access to their channels, and they're not going to give me access unless I pay, and that's the way the cookie crumbles. I can live without it.
How tf do they think locking most people OUT is going to drive up revenue?
Everybody used to know every f1 drivers and subsequently all the brands the associate with.
That doesnt happen anymore
Nobody cares anymore because you have to pay to watch
@@peterwilson8039 @peterwilson8039 I was referring to the free official MotoGP YT channel and third party analysis on YT channels like the aforementioned Crash YT channel.
But as a longtime all-access MGP app subscriber, yes, it has gotten quite expensive over the years.
@@peterwilson8039I was referring to the free official MotoGP YT channel and third party analysis on YT channels like the aforementioned Crash YT channel.
But as a longtime all-access MGP app subscriber, yes, it has gotten quite expensive over the years.
Papa Yam Another great video I guess people don’t realize how much post production work goes into one of these videos, but kudos.
Glad the weather is holding out because after I watch your video I’m gonna go out riding on my 2024 MT-09SP rock ‘n’ roll baby.
I was excited for the R9 triple but now I can't wait for the 850CC V4-engined R8 announcement!
HTF does anyone who knows anything about performance, get excited for a 3 cylinder supersport bike? They do not have an advantage over an I4 where top end and high rev horsepower are concerned, and that's what supersport bikes do.
@@MichaelPullins-h8z Because I'm going to ride it on the street. I like the torque lower in the rev range, and as cool as having 200hp is, I'd rather have 120-ish on the street.
I appreciate the professional delivery you bring to your posts. You speak so well. I admire your talent.
Those Yamahas with the cross plane crank sound awesome, but I agree, not usable for the streets unless you become a squid
cross plane crank only matters on v engines
...... "with the added Temu winglets".............priceless :)
i purchased the said winglets while drunk they are now in the trash 😁
I'm a 50yo who's owned R1's and other big sports bikes all my adult life, and I agree. I think we've entered an era where the Japanese corporations are far more budget conscious than they once were. Ever stricter emissions regs has played a part in this. The "everyman" sports bikes that they all produce are cheaper to make and cheaper for the consumer to buy. No brainer, really. But, I do hope they will still continue to produce affordable flagships. Any auto manufacturer can produce a super car if they want to, but few people can afford to own them.
@@davew8841 brother, 46 yo here, maybe makes sense to grab a fresh zx10 and preserve it, it’s still made as it should be without planned obsolescence in mind. Maybe because Kawa produces less bikes than other big three but is actually a huge corporation that builds navy ships and tankers, loads of money, bikes are toy project for them.
Budget consciousness should go right TF out the window when we are talking about flagship performance vehicles.
A prime example is why TF did Nissan put an intrinsically IMBALANCED V6 engine in their 'flagship performance car'?
"Let's build the VH45DE V8?" CEO: nN0pE!
"Let's retool the RB and put a proper INLINE 6 in there?" CEO: N3g@t1Ve. dURp!
CEO: "wE WuNT tHUh WurST EnJ3n tYPe 4 pUrf0rmUNz"
I don’t enjoy riding superbikes on the street, i got rid of my Panigale V4 and got an MT09. What a relief.
so i uploaded a video recently where i went to go see the R9 in person and let me tell you, I was skeptical until i saw it in person, definitely the new king of the castle.
Yamaha never said they were cancelling the R1. They said they were not supplying it to Europe. The R1M was going to be supplied to Europe. Australia, Asia and America was always getting the R1.
The problem with Texas is the never ending summers. 100 degrees daily for months on end. Engine temps are ridiculous to maintain and deal with.
They are not if you’re not in standstill traffic.
And if you’re sitting in traffic during rush hour you’re riding motorcycles wrong
@@vizzle89my brother in Christ. Have you TRIED to break traffic laws in Texas? That’s a sure fire way to get a felony lmao
Oh dear, how sad, never mind. suck it up. try riding with your full kit in an OZZY summer. i feel most sorry for those who live in climates where you don't get warm weather, ever.
@@TheSteveSteele ps when I bought new r1 in 2009 in the spring I was riding in Prague and had her boiled off because of long red lights and hot weather. I immediately forgot about the warranty, had cat removed, straight pipe with an end can installed and it solved all summer overheating issues. Cats are evil on bikes.
@@JustinAguirre-sy2br I live in Texas and ride year round which is one Texas highlight, riding around in January, can't do that in NY, Cleveland or GA. I don't ride my bikes in summer rush hours not only because it's too hot and dumb, but Dallas Ft worth area drivers will try and kill you lols. However, I ride year round not in traffic, superbikes aren't meant for traffic in any state.
I have been to Europe several time and don’t remember seeing sportbikes, mainly just scooters.
You sure it was Europe and not Asia you've been to ? Lots of sportbikes over here in Europe.
In the summertime I see sportbikes frequently in Germany
I'm about to turn 73 yrs young! I'm an avid mountain biker so I'm in excellent health and fitness. I also own a highly modified 2009 R1 and am blessed to live where there are roads to enjoy such a bike. Granted, I don't do track days anymore and have become a way smarter rider on the street but still like to wind it up to 140+ on my favorite straightaway to get the juices flowing! I have plenty of mountain twisties along with fast flowing roads with good line of sight. Bottom line is, I love riding my R1 because it reliable, paid for, has great performance, looks good, and sounds awesome too! Thank the good Lord I can still handle this beast!!! Like I tell many of my non rider friends... "It's so much fun to ride it should be illegal". So, my advice is to be healthy and fit and keep enjoying your 1000cc sportbikes and ride smart so you can ride tomorrow! (How many people do you know that are my age and still ride 1000cc crotch rockets?)
The most interesting move in the WSBK scene is the Kawasaki ZX10RR getting replaced by a Bimota based around the ZX10RR engine. And the upcoming Ducati Panigale V4R with the new conventional swing arm.
The supersport category is the most interesting one. The KTM 990 RC-R, Yamaha R9, CF Moto 800rr going against the established Panigale V2 & MV 800RR.
Wait CF Moto is making an 800RR?
@@sleeper.simulant7327 I'm sorry, CF Moto is making a 675 triple, QJ Motor is making the 800 inline 4
Yeah, I find the new age supersort classes really interesting these days. I'm not entirely sure why some people want to see only essentially 20-year-old 600 I-4s race each other.
@@ApexRadius Happy to see that the ZX6R & CBR600RR Are still in the mix, but yeah, it's been a bit stale for a long time. Since it's inception, supersports has always been the 600 i4s plus the junior Ducati V2
@@shravanav993 I'm also glad to see the old 600s still there, but the class is so much more interesting with a wider variety of bikes.
Love the videos but what I love even more is the classical music in the back especially this one! I love Chopin!
Year round rider in Michigan. Get some heated gear, drive the truck for the 20% of the days when the roads are icy, enjoy 2 wheels the rest of the time.
Parallel twins are half of a v4. It's inevitable.
V twins are half of a v4 it is so over
They are not because the stroke of a parallel twin causes the crank to be unstable or unbalanced, thus needing different engineering at the crankshaft to solve this. Where v twins or v4s do not... also inline 4s ironically do not have this problem. This is why parallel twins rev out completely differently than their counterpart inline 4s and v4s.
Parallel twins are the corduroy pants among engines ^^
@@sebo1337 PLEATED corduroy pants even.
I wanted a R1 but when I saw the price for full coverage at my age of 35 (they were asking for 4k for the year) I passed on it.
I do regret it though because I still have the literbike itch. I bought a Scout 101 which is also fun and comfortable but it’s not a Supersport by any means.
For comparison the 2025 Scout 101 for me is $500 for full coverage for the year vs a 2024 R1 $4000 with progressive.
I’m not going to gamble with liability insurance(I learned that’s how a lot of people ride here in Texas on their literbikes)
I'd rather end the EPA, CARB, and EURO5 than end the R1.
You hit the nail on the head, definitely that Suzuki kind of updates, with the major success of the T7 and upcoming R9 there are getting very complacent
The quote on the R1 existing is great. Its very similar to the Lexus LFA. A symbol that reflects values. Something uniquely Japanese in ethos.
The difference this ground is Yamaha has no flagship bike to sell to the EU having discontinued the R1. V4’s clearly can be made to meet regulations, Yamaha will want to fill the gap. Hence v4 flagship.
Just my hypothesis.
this was basically what honda's been doing with the cbr600rr. They released the new bike in europe and japan but the us has been getting the same old bike since 2013
In the 5 years I was in bike sales, I figure at least 90% of the R1's I sold were to police. (I guess it's the perfect bike when you're immune to tickets.)
In Europe we have Ducati, MVAgusta, Triumph, BMW, KTM ... five reasons we don't need the R1. Its all good.
One reason why sales decline for these types of bikes is increased insurance coverage prices it’s absurd how expensive it is for me to insure a bike ok yes I’m young so that’s obviously a factor as to why it’s more expensive but even at that I’m pay £250 pounds a month roughly 326 dollars 300 euros for a ktm duke 125 so that’s nearly 2500 a year for a bike that only cost me 3k
Really for me insurance is $300 a year for full coverage for my tuono v4, I'm also in an older age bracket.
@@BeardedStiggyea it’s really bad where I’m from im from Ireland and it’s so bad there’s some cars cheaper for me to insure than my bike
Yammie therapy gives orange juice and a sugar cookie... after crying ! (Now?) I have the confidence to ride off into the sunset... Thank you Dr. Yammie
R7 is NOT the replacement for R6, neither is R9 wich is in par with R6 in performance. R7 and R9 are totally new bikes, not replacing anything.
Not motorcycle related but those vessi shoes are pretty nice. I’ve always wore non slip over the ankle boots at my job. I put around 10k steps every shift so ima have to give those shoes a try. Mr. Yams do you know if they fit true to size or I’ll have to size up or size down?
Jorge Martin is going to Aprilia next year. Hopefully he can give them a championship too
Holy crap! Someone wrote this script who has a pretty deep knowledge of motorcycle racing! Was that you Yam? Pretty good fer a guy with an ADV bike in the garage!
😇 couldn't be me lol
With a dual sport, when it gets shitty out , ya don't put the bike away. Ya just change to off road tires 👌
that’s right😂 i got a dual sport cr250
I think that there's several things that are leading to the downfall of sportsbikes:
1. They were common in the past because the naked equivalent was huge stonking things like XJR1300s, MT01s, B-Kings and others that were never designed for proper performance.
2. With naked bikes now getting fast engines and great componentry like Ohlins/KYB and Brembo etc the gulf in performance between sportsbikes and naked bikes that was there 20-25 years ago is rapidly dwindling. The performance benefits of a sportsbike therefore are making it harder to justify the negatives of the riding position, higher insurance costs and higher chance of major damage if you suffer a drop.
3. The pricing is getting out of control. Here in Australia the standard 10 years ago was high teens for your liter class bikes. It's now high 20s/low 30s. Of course everything is getting more expensive but that pyschological 20k barrier is real and now you have most of your proper middleweight and liter nakeds in that space like the MT09, Z900, Dukes, etc and the performance on everything bar track is so much more livable and usable as a general ride bike.
Good analysis. Thank you Yamster.
Those are the first winglets that I actively despise.
AND it will do nothing if Yamaha doesn't address top end power. Corner speed and keeping the nose down under acceleration was never it's weakness compared to Ducati and BMW
Question for everyone: I can't decide between the standard/base 2025 Honda CBR1000RR or the standard/base 2025 Yamaha R1? Price difference is not a factor. I like both but can't buy both, lol. There can only be one!
Meanwhile at Kawasaki HQ, strippers on poles, dj spinning something between rege and speed metal and every ceo has a shovel full of blow in front of them.....new for 2025.....NAKED UPTUNED H2!
CAN I GET A HELL YES!?
No one wants to buy a Japanese bike for 28K. THIS is why the bikes do not change. These are toy bikes, used on occasion, a second bike. It’s over. Welcome to our new crap economy.
Yep and the people in europe, latin america and asia who use bikes as their primary vehicle probably can't afford a 28k or even an 18k bike to begin with.
Except Honda did produce (and sell in the US) the rc213v-s road bike from 2015 to 2018. Very rare and very pricey to own and run. Just ask IOM-TT vet Michael Rutter who raced one on the island for many years.
Would love a video on your thoughts regarding the future of the kawasaki zx10r since they bailed on wsbk for 25.
Rsv4 1100 factory akrapovic full system guy here , everything's behind me 😮
Vessi sneakers designed in Vancouver made in Taiwan. Yam is ok with this. CFMoto designed in Austria by Kiska Design and made in China. Yam is not ok with this. Before Yam throws a fit about the QJMotors Super 9 with a price tag at 10,000USD being another Chinese ripoff of MV Agusta's Superveloce 1000 Series Oro. The Super 9 is a collaboration between MV Agusta and QJMotors. Just giving all the Yam peeps a heads up with all the facts before he unleashes the Chinese Motorcycle Tantrum again.
One qualm, CF moto currently only has one KTM derived engine.
@@Ephem13 And they redesigned it....
@@MickH60 seeing as CFMoto hasn't had the same issues with their 800 that KTM is having with the 790/890 line, they definitely did something. Hell, it might be what KTM finally implemented on their 2024 motors as they have a new head design.
I just test rode a 2025 GSX-R600. The salesman told me they have an R9 coming. I don't know if he meant that they have something on paper like a bill of laden or something.
Those wings are the only ones i approve of on bikes, first ones to actually look good on a motorcycle
R1 may be replaced by the coming gp 800cc, and it's engine remaining with the mt10
As a 44 year-old lawyer who takes tracking his R1 (probably) way too seriously, I feel seen.
I heard about the 2027 regulations and saw tons of people screaming blasphemy. I’m new to the sport and actually think it will be really interesting. Even watching moto3 and moto2 is super exciting, and really the lap times to motoGP aren’t THAT much faster. What’s fun is seeing the skill level and determination of the riders. Going to 850cc will only push manufacturers to innovate and bring us cool new products. I hope….
In the 80s i working at the local bike shop, i was married, had a Cutlass and an 88 fzr 1000, then i decided to turn my cutlass into and roundy round car cuz my wife still had her car right?, well then i got divorced..I spent 2 years on the FZR being my only source of transportation. Not a enjoyable experience
Chinese and India's motorcycle markets are booming tho. I believe South-Eastern Asia will pretty soon join in on this. There bikes are used in daily life and many people prefer them to cars. As a result, a great number of people know how to ride and wouldn't mind upgrading to something bigger than their normal 100cc scooters if there's a chance
no
That's not the point of this video. They aren't producing any pure race-bred bikes either.
@@markosz22 Race-bred bikes don't bring quite as much money, they're mostly for image. I believe it's a matter of time and capital. Once Chinese and Indian brands are established and stable, they may start producing something less practical and more image-oriented
How come Suzuki and Yamaha are unable to meet euro5+ requirements while Honda and Kawasaki can?
As a rider with a 14 r1 I love mine but I will say for a upgrade from the 14 the 2025 would be a great upgrade for me I love the fact they finally put Brembos on it the winglets don’t bother me like that I always loves the 2024 model so even if it’s just a slightly upgraded 2024 for me and upgrading from a 14 is great over getting a 2024….if they do decide to kill the r1 inline 4 then I would like to have the last r1 they make which might be this one if there happen to be a change. For most of the complaints about the r1 is track issues but street wise the bike is totally fine and will be just as much I’m sure more fun then my 14. Not sure when the 2025 will be out for sale but I’m getting one
Sadly the 2025 R1 is not actually an R1. If you custom remove the winglets, then it becomes an R1, but you have to do the work yourself.
Here in Brazil the last R1 Yamaha brought us was the 2015, the bike parts, and bike prices are off the charts, we are getting charged around 35k for a 0 km R3 and our 2025 R3 seems to stay as the 2021 looks until they want tô bring the new one. In the middle to end of 2025. Kinda anoying, not gonna lie, wanting tô join in a R3 but wanting this "R1 front end". So i Will be sitting down here gathering 3 years of my payment to pay for It. :l
*If* you can afford it, there is nothing like a 1000cc bike on track. I am lucky enough to live 45 Minutes away from the Dutch TT at Assen. I own a 450cc two zylinder with lousy 27 horsepower for leasure rides in the country side, but on track, I don't want 3 cylinders, I don't want "tame" or "manageble" I want my 4 zylinder 1000cc Superstock watering my eyes, when exiting a corner. For all I care they can just stop making them road legal. I haven't riden my liter bikes on the road in years. And btw, you can take club racing way to seriously at a much younger age :D
I'm loving these daily vids. I'd love to see one about basic maintenance for new riders...
When I bought my Honda CB500F from my local yamaha honda dealership I knew I was getting scammed and knew I wasn't going to be coming back for their in house first maintenance (though I do wonder if it would have been worth the $500 charge for a "free first maintenance").
I didn't have a bike cover or drop kit, didn't protect my helmet from scratches. Had no idea when to change my oil or brake fluid, when to check my tire air pressure... No idea the difference between cleaning and waxing my chain (you'd think to just google it but yknow- slipped my mind I guess).
Basically, I was an idiot. After having to replace my warped handlebars -$150, and have my front brake taken apart and cleaned-
I started wondering, "Why isn't there a video out there talking about how to take care of your bike when you're not on it.?"
I think it could be a great topic for your channel. Cheers!
Funny, I have to put my bike away for the Summer, not Wintr
2015 R1 rider here! Not an insurance salesman, not going 180 in a straight line. Neither 19 or 43. I just ride it to work without exceeding the speed limit.
That is strange. Why get the R1
For the looks, feel, sound, etc. why should you drive it crazy? I also had an R1 2008 and never crossed 140kmh
43 year old super bike rider is a life goal. I don’t know why you’re talking about it like a bad thing
55 yo Superbike rider... Get a life.
@@daveberryman5946 what?
it was removed only from the european street market
Yammie what’s your opinion on starting on a mt03 ??
He's gonna say: Slow
if youre not too tall its great. is what i think he said once.
@@gerardoalejandrorezavilleg9039ik that’s what’s he’s probably gonna say but I still want to hear his opinion cause it’s what I started on
Sounds good have fun
I started on a r3 (silimar to yours) I had lots of fun... but yeah, its kinda slow @Quacklin10
These younger gens are safety conscious. They lack the mental capacity to control themselves and their impulses. That’s why they need the tech.
The r7 and r9 are great stepping stones for sport bike riders to get into the sport. However, we could see yamaha do what honda did and have some v4 configurations in different models. The r7 amd r9 are great street sport bikes. I do wish we had something cazy fast for the streets and track and not just a old r6 model.
Most most people can barely deal with an R7 on track. And the ones who are skilled enough, which is far less than those who perceive themselves that way, will never justify a company keeping a specific model alive for just a few. It's not reasonable to expect otherwise.
I think people are wrongly assuming the R9 is one of the new friendly-mild-middleweight sporty bike segment. It has the potential to be faster than the R6 everywhere except maybe long straights. Top speed is not what wins races. Getting through corners--and getting out of them early on the gas with more power down is primarily what wins races.
Let's wait to see what the R9 is really like when people actually get to ride it. We don't even know what the actual stock power figures are yet. But some people have already done some quick math with the MT-09 power figures and the new final drive gearing and it seems to indicate that the R9 will be at least as fast as the R6 in a straight line and possibly faster. It should accelerate faster. And, objectively, it should be a much better road bike than an R6. We'll see.
@@ApexRadius yeah exactly. This will give people the ability to have R6 speeds with much wider torque ranges when coming out of straights, which is useful both on road and on track.
I don't think the main anger is oriented towards this replacing the R6 but the R1 not being a thing anymore though.
@@lucascarracedo7421 For sure but, IMO, there's a couple of misguided speculations around the R9 specifically. One is that it's a replacement for the R1. It's really not. It's just that the R1 won't be available as a road bike in many markets. Yamaha is essentially surrendering that market to other manufacturers. That's pretty telling. They don't sell enough to make it worthwhile to keep developing the current bike.
Superbikes are only really viable as high-priced halo bikes and for racing homologation these days.
Another is that the R9 isn't essentially a replacement for the R6. It's quite different than an R6 but it fills the same space in the market and is almost certainly a more flexible and useable bike in more situations than the R6.
@@ApexRadius yeah exactly. I agree with everything. This being close to a 1000cc bike gets people confused and they don't know what to make of it. Also, as you stated, everyone's talking and nobody had the chance to ride one. So there's that.
We need Yammie Bingo, and the free space is anytime he says "Long in the tooth" 😅
What to think about the "small miracle" with yamaha in 2021 when Toprak just won the wsbk title with a new bike ? 🤔
We need way more people who take club racing way too seriously!
Don't hate me but my opinion is that because of the economy, a lot of people can't afford 2 bikes and a sport tourer is a better all-around bike for people who also want comfort and practicality, not just performance
Idk a mto9 that doesn't look or handle Luke shit but still has that sweet triple sounds pretty awesome to me
I think I agree with you when you say Yamaha probably won't make the R1 a v4, but hear me out. With the CEO saying, "The R1 is a symbol. There is purpose in it existing even if we don't sell one of them." Does show a chance that after the 850 comes out in world super bike we might get at least an update. IF they did do a V4 R1, we'd be looking at min R1M prices for the base model. With the R9 coming out they'd have a cheaper "super bike for the streets" and the crazy expensive R1. Which is the only reason I have a small hope.
The R1 is still awesome and most consumers can't scratch the surface of what it can do.
Of course. Most consumers can't even scratch the surface of what an R3 can do.
The problem with Superbike racing today started when Ducaudi was allowed to cheat by the FIM. The day they rolled out their MotoGP bike with wings on it which was strictly prohibited in the rulebooks under no downforce allowed. They flat out lied and said it was for redirecting air to cool the rear tire, all the other teams complained, the stewards investigated and found out it was a lie and the wings were for downforce and then...nothing! It was dropped! No fines, nothing, it was never mentioned again. All the other teams were left scrambling to catch up! Ducaudi didn't just boldly show up that day after spending millions on wind tunnel testing and working with aerospace aerodynamicists not knowing what the outcome would be, they knew.
They were also allowed to use the same ECU as their satellite teams which is illegal to allow them longer testing times but with less power, they threatened to pull out of MotoGP if they didn't get their way which would be 1/3 of the field so the FIM allowed it. Once they got their way, they reprogrammed the ECU's back to top spec, It's a disgrace! Their satellite teams also feed the Factory teams all their testing info. The FIM needs to go and so does Ducaudi, ever since Audi bought them they've become a ruthless, evil, corrupt company.
It always amazes me that they sell a bike that goes over 100 miles a hour when speed limits are 55 which means goverments love your money from fines
I will wait for all these bikes… and still end up buying a Ninja H2
Crazy how the winglet is being normalized suddenly this yr
Motorcycle go vroom vroom
The worlds economy is on the brink. Superbikes will be back.
We all want a 1000cc sports bike that no one can fully utilise the power, but no one’s buying them
Because they're so bloody uncomfortable on the road....
When I bought my R6 in 2002, an R1 was just under $10k. The prices now are crazy. Buy a used 10 year old bike for way less. That's the problem.
@@jlzimmerman7510k in 2000 is $18,200 today so what’s your point. Everything costs more, just like everyone makes more.
I hate the Winglets... I'll be getting a R9 but will be making my own fairings the delete them.
The v65 magna was a lightning fast v4 honda in a straight line.
How hard is it for manufacturers to just work by order for like the R1. I don’t know anything about marketing & distribution so just a random question that pops up in my head.
Like just have the R1 to only be ordered instead of making a bunch of them & having to lose on money.
They paying fabio 12M, you’ve got to be kidding me, he’s results are terrible. He came in 13th at the Australian GP.12th in Japan
I am all for legislation to protect the environment and increase public safety but going after motorcycles first, and harder, than on energy powerplants/etc seems very out of place. Unlike what we see in the US, Europeans use motorcycles as their regular commute vehicles.
Street bikes in the pattern of the 1390 SuperDuke R are the way. I've had 3 R1s and a couple of MT10s, among dozens of other bikes. They were terrific, but the SDR topped them easily in desirability for street riding.
I had a mt-10 21 but way to slow is the SDR that much better then the R1?
@@leanit5756 I absolutely love my 1290. After racing R1, ZX10 and such. Superbike is totally pointless on streets, being a track weapon. Bike like SDR is probably 70% street 30% track, due to comfortable higher seating, mostly. Engine wise it’s godly on track. Usable from bottom to top. In race starts, corner exits totally eats 1000 alive. On long straights yes they catch up by the end but if you brave on brakes, and they are amazing on SDR, they shall not pass )
I made the move to a super naked 5 years ago and I love it and will not go back. I'm seriously thinking about moving to the hyper-naked SDR....I've talked with several people with SD's and several have mentioned being in the shop too much for my liking so that's got me a little hesitant.....how is yours holding up?
@@razorbak6783 Well I had the 1290 and sold it. It had no faults while I owned it, although a few things chapped my ass. The first was that on deceleration there was a weird throttle blip thing it did. around 4,000 RPM. The 1390 I own now does not do that.
Both the 1290 and the 1390 would be improved if the switch clusters were moved inboard by at least a 1/4". On both bikes I frequently accidentally / unknowingly activate the high beams, +/- switches, and C1/C2 switch, especially when riding really aggressively.
That aside, the 1390 has been flawless so far too, and the adjustable wheelie control is the slickest thing. Put her in 3rd, get to about 7,000 RPM and roll the throttle quickly and you get the best power wheelies ever.
Bike is quite spacious and comfortable. Gets good gas mileage for what it is, and has terrific ergonomics (other than the switch pods thing).
@@chrisbenko6616 Compared to a R1 on the street, the 1390s brakes are better, it is way more comfortable, and the suspension is better and easier to adjust (electronic). The dash is WAY better and the cruise control is of course quite convenient.
I have not rode my 1390 on track yet, but did plenty with my two R1s and my R1M. I considered them pretty magical there other than their front brakes.
i plan on buying a new-ish r1 in a couple years but i am NOT spending over 10k on one, 10k for a bike is insane, mr noob what do you think i should do? would it be possible to find a 2015+ r1 in 2 years for less than 10k, even 7k?
I hope they make a v4 super bike I've got a vmax super fun to drive would like it in a sport bike package
I think it's fair to say, Honda is not listening :(
Those winglets look they are the first thing that are going to get broken off.
Owned a r1 but realized it’s a licence remover nothin more sooner or later you lose licence or you die
When I was younger you could afford a bike.
Now they’re as much as cars used to be back then.
They e priced their market out.
I assume that when people compare the R9 to the R1 they just have no clue about motorcycles. Is that the case here?
People definitely still want and are buying super bikes😂…….they just going to Facebook to buy them for cheaper with a few miles and work already done than going to a dealership getting taxed out the ass 😂. I definitely still see superbikes everywhere
Eh, ill be fine with my 2012 r1, and may get a used 18-24 model later on. Dont really care whether or not i get the newest iteration. I honestly prefer the comfortability of the mt10 anyways, just wish the engines got the same treatment the full fledged r1 gets with better internals. Heard too many horror stories of them blowing up.
Sorry, Hoda had the RC 30 and Rc45 in WSBK and V4
(R1) Uhh? More plastic... isn't plastic made for toys... Sheesh?