Singer Model 66: Removing the Mainshaft
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- This is the video I said I wasn't going to make - How I remove the mainshaft from machines such as the Singer 66 and 27/127. I abridged some of the teardown as you've seen me take the needlebar area apart a dozen times already, and this video is long enough as it is. Done as a benchside chat, not chaptered. This is advanced stuff, and if you're going to try this, you do so at your own risk. Oy! I can't believe I'm releasing this...
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Thanks for doing that. It was very interesting and explained a lot of things to me. I don’t think I will ever attempt it, but great to know!
Glad it was helpful!
Woohoo! It's had 110 years to build up a schmoo superglue, great stuff getting the cement to crack. I had a call for help yesterday, a young dude who sold me a machine wants to get into old sewing machine repair...he had a 1948 201 with crusty rusty felted lint cement all round the bobbin/feed dog area and horrible schmoo everywhere else. Closest I've seen to this one😉. Looking forward to its next chapter. Great decals for its age, we hardly ever see redeyes here, we get lotuses instead.
This one is pretty nasty. Not the worst I've seen, but nasty enough! She's going to get a side clamp conversion, and possibly a hand crank.
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Bob, do you have a source for the gear on the main shaft of a Singer 201-2
I'll take a look. Email me at argosybob@gmail.com
Better you than me? I was mechanic for 40 years. I lost my dexteri can't do s*** like that anymore. You're doing a nice job.
Thank you for this very detailed video, I’m finding it very helpful. Cheers Maggie
Thank you...I totally enjoyed it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent video Bob. This the first time I have seen someone take the main shaft out. I have a better understanding of why people don't do it. I will file this video away for future reference. You are a gem for us rookies. Now I'm looking forward to seeing you put it all back together.
Thanks, I hesitated to shoot this - much less post it - but there have been so many people asking for it. I heavily edited this video otherwise it would have been almost an hour long, and even then, I still hadn't removed everything from the bottom, of the machine. This 66 is really filthy.
@@BobFowlerWorkshop Bob we need to see good and ugly so we can understand what it takes to work on this machines.
Oh my gosh….I needed this video so much!!! My 66’s balance wheel is LOCKED. I would appreciate as much video on this as possible!! Thank you so much!!
Check out my video "Troubleshooting a Stuck Singer 66"...
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Thanks for taking one for the team. We surely are in need of this demonstration. Now my others machine will have a change to carefully and respectfully being taken apart. Rusty haven an experimental approach to restoration. Let's pray 🙏 that I didn't damage her in the process. She will look good but I wonder if she be functional. Looking forward to seeing you put the main shaft on model 66 back together .
Thanks Bob! Maybe someday I'll be brave enough to do this, but not this day 😅
I resisted doing this video for a long time Marie... LOL
I'm with you Marie - I'm nowhere near brave enough to do this!
@@meganmills6545 It is rather nerve wracking. It's so easy to damage the vertical shaft...
Good grief - that was impressive! I loved seeing this, and I'm going to love watching you put it back together - it's going to get a lot of views, I'm sure, from all the people who want to really take a machine apart and polish it up like new through-and-through. I've never seen anything like it! (And it's cemented my belief that if a main shaft isn't stuck solid with no hope of the machine being anything more than a paperweight/doorstop this is something I won't be trying for myself. I'd rather box it up and ship it to you!) :-)
Megan, if you send me a machine from New Zealand, the freight charges will kill us both! LOL It would be cheaper for me to fly there!
@@BobFowlerWorkshop Yep - shipping costs so much these days it won't be long before it is cheaper to buy the machine a business class seat of its own.
When I remove a spool pin I use a 1/2" drill chuck, chuck it tight and turn the chuck by hand.
That's an excellent way to remove it if you plan on using them again.
Are the pins threaded?
I literally just got here, first singer video, and I think I have pins
RIP that foot ....I cried a little when you hit it with the drill, the dogs ate that up nom nom
Oh, I think it had bigger issues... LOL
Excelente, bonita máquina.
What can I do to free up the mainshaft if it’s still fully seized? I’ve put dozens of hour into cleaning this thing and still no movement. I wouldn’t want to go in with a drill and break things
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Which bobbin winder is this? We need to come up with a categorization system.
Posi Lock FTW!
Is that little blue drill an impact? Where did you get it?
See kids? Nag Dad long enough and he'll do it!
Jo, this is why I love you so much!... Yes, it's an inexpensive impact. The tool alone is about $40 at the Horrible Freight, then about another $60 for a battery and charger. I already had the batteries and charger as it's the same system as my little 12 volt polisher, so it was an easy choice. As for categorizing bobbin winders... I'm not the one to make that determination, I think the kids at ISMACS probably would do that!
What is the heaviest needle you can use in a model 66 and where can I buy them?
Technically, if it's a 15X1 needle - regardless of size - you can use it. I have some size 18, and I know that they are made to at least a size 20. The trouble with larger needles is you need a suitably larger thread size, and I'm not 100% certain you can even get anything larger than a V69 thread through the bobbin case of a 66 class (a V69 generally uses a 16 or 18 needle).
Just now started disassembling my recently acquired 1907 Singer.
Have all the bottom end, nose end & handwheel removed with only the main-shaft, stitch regulator & shaft & the rock-shaft still there.
When I turn the main-shaft it tends to have a stiff spot & thinking that maybe the shaft needs removed to check this.
Thoughts?
My first thought is to get her down so that only the main and vertical shafts are in place, the flood the oil points with a good schmoo dissolving penetrating oil and exercise the hell out of her. I suspect that flooding the oil ports will flush out the last of the crud and she will free up...
@Bob Fowler removed the stitch length shaft & parts.
Now the main-shaft moves relatively smoothly, especially after flooding the oil points.
Still can't make the mainshaft run full rotation with the rock-shaft but I'll take it.
Think I need a stitch length shaft though, some serious wear where the cam drives it.
Hello Bob,
I remember last time you said you wouldn’t do another shaft removal. He he! Last time you used the steel rod to punch the nose bearing - you went through the circular side opening. This time you went through the butt end opening. This seems to give you better access? Have you ever removed the shaft on one of the three quarter size machines? Are the three quarter size machines more difficult? Thanks for the video.
Yeah, you can go either route. Through the hole where the stitch length regulator screw attaches is actually easier than the hole in the back. I've done 3/4 size machines, and that I will NOT demonstrate!!! That's a real pain in the posterior and they are even easier to damage than a full size.
I'd like to know too. I have a trashed 99k I hope to fully restore.
What size gear puller are you using? I need to order one.
I use the Posi-Lock 103. You can see me use it here:
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What do I do if I don't have a gear puller?
Im also wondering this
@@mele4827 Bob answered my question in his April 16, 2023 Sunday morming Quickie vide when answering mail questions. Bottom line is no hammers. You can get a basic puller for around $20 and won't regret it.
When I put my wheel back on after disassembly and cleaning, the shaft that wraps around the main rod catches every half turn - what do you recommend? I plan to buy a gear puller since the wheel is now stuck on the main shaft, and I don't want to use my wooden mallet again (I can't find my rubber one). I'm looking at a simple gear puller from Harbor Freight, I can't afford $70-120 for one.
It sounds like you have the feed cam in the wrong place on the main shaft and it's hitting the cast in "cage" of the vertical shaft.Try moving the cam back towards the balance wheel end of the machine until it just no longer interferes with the vertical shaft. Make sure the set screw on the cam is in the machined groove on the main shaft.
@@BobFowlerWorkshop I'm sending you an email since I can't post pictures.
My gosh this thing is disgusting!! Have you ever used LPS2 on these? I've used it to clean and restore my old steel knitting machines, I was just curious if it would work on an old singer 66-14.
No, haven't tried LPS2, not yet anyway...