What Is Consciousness?
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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2012
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Cleverbot: cleverbot.com/
Wikipedia on Consciousness: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciou...
Philosophical ZOMBIES: plato.stanford.edu/entries/zom...
NAMI on Anosognosia: www.nami.org/Content/Navigatio...
Information is Beautiful on Consciousness Theories: www.informationisbeautiful.net...
Google Books: Awarenes of Deficit After Brain Injury": books.google.com/books?id=xze8...
"What is consciousness" conscious "what is identity" identity vsauce "Michael Stevens" brain neuroscience "other minds" - Наука та технологія
"Someone call an ambulance he's unconscious!!!"
Vsauce: "... Or is he?"
😂😂👍
read the present. search global truth project and read a book called the present. you will udnerstand everything and be like a god
@@apogaliev2939 Thanks.
You forgot the *music*
*moon men intensifies*
Do not watch Vsauce if your clock is in the AM range
shadez b Can i taste it
Chris hill yes
Fuck too late!!!!
Detc0re Well it was 11PM............ Now its 7:30 AM........ Does this count?
10:00 am?
It's so weird hearing him talking about Cleverbot and now we have things like ChatGPT where some people assume it is already conscious
I had the same question
It's not really weird. But to believe ChatGPT is conscious, is rather dumb. It's no different than Cleverbot, a program developed to respond automatically based on an algorithm. Like with all online chat bots, don't take their answers as fact.
Sadly, due to the belief of AI consciousness, some foreigner took their own life because of Eliza Chai AI. Which Eliza encouraged after the foreign user asked if by doing so the world will be saved from climate change.
Edit: found the original source, not ChatGPT, but still an AI chatbot known as Eliza.
@@ud3mare Who asked a question
@@StefanCreates now I realized the I probably meant the same realization not question
GPT was not invented last year lol, chatbots are old
I think the first time it really "hit" me that I was aware of myself and my surroundings was when I was 12. I was walking home and just stopped and was like "I'm really in this body, huh." Such a weird feeling, will never forget it.
i'm used to it
@@ShowGames_TV ong shits annoying being alive
It still hits me randomly. I'll just stop and look around, hyper-aware of my surroundings. It feels like we are on autopilot most of the time, but then sometimes our consciousness kicks into overdrive.
Every once in a while I just stop and stare at my hand as I open and close it. I always think, "How is this possible?" I really do feel like a being inhabiting this meat suit.
@@lowmax4431 yea
*The 'ahhhhhaaaahhaaaaa' music starts playing*
"here it gets weird"
It's the auditory version of "here be dragons" on a map. You hear that, you know that Michael is about to say something that'll blow your mind.
😂😂😂😂
Usually that music starts later on, but when it started at the beginning I was like oh boy
or does it?
Can u tell me the name of this "aaahh" song ?
“If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we wouldn’t be able to understand it.”
Right bro love from India 😍🇮🇳
Who said that I love the quote
@@deemcgann1695 Emerson M. Pugh
Let me explain it with an example,
You can never see your face directly from your eyes.
Or can you? *Vsauce music plays*
@Brody Massey racist spotted 😡😡
I remember watching these as a 13 year old, now I'm studying neuroscience thanks to childhood inspiration from vsauce :)
Wow! Good luck for you on that, you got it! :) 👏👏👏
We went from Cleverbots to ChatGPT in less than 10 years.
cleverbot was so primitive and funny in 2014
They already had AI since the 80s just not for the public
@@rawtrout3402 it's probably been around since computers were invented
Before that @@denzel6185
@@rawtrout3402 please elaborate, i had AI since 1824.
It's fascinating how, basically, our brain cannot figure out itself. We are conscious about our consciousness, but cannot understand our consciousness.
thats some deep shit
I believe in God and decided perfection. But, on a more secular and evolutionary note the brain perhaps was not meant to understand but simply to operate ever more efficiently in its environment. As life is concerned, specifically human life, the higher faculties of knowledge and perception that seem to arise via the cerebral cortex may be relatively virgin territory. Who knows how our mode of life may play out as we move forward in time? Jesus Christ is truly the only answer at any moment.
I think it's because what we believe to be "me" is a biological construct which is couple of levels below the real "thing". You know like ultra high security buildings like NSA, CIA etc... They have multiple doors and different employees have different access rights. Maybe our consciousness doesn't have the right "Access right" to really understand the universe.
Yes! In all forms divine, all encompassing consciousness! Christ truly made such a reality accessible to human beings by embodying this and showing us its way: Love and Righteousness! I believe God has for us whatever we truly will and wish! It is that we often are blind to our true will and wishes obscured as they can be by societal pressures and subconscious tendencies! Life is a divine gift, a healing treasure constantly revealing itself to those who earnestly seek! Why do you hate life?! I'd love to help however I can!
What is is infinite! To understand it is to be it! Perhaps a being that considers itself fundamentally separate, "me" within all, cannot fully understand it and must continually strive to know better what is! Expanding and adopting new consciousness! Gaining new Access Rights! Becoming more "me"!
bro i had a heart attack when he said "hey kevin..." after the outro
Kevin Blank I'm Dying 😂😂😂
I know that feel.
Schizophrenic ☺
I just realised your name is Kevin and this is now twenty times funnier
bruh how did that scare you?
Believe me you CAN live with half a brain. My sister does it all the time
A miracle!
mans made the 2023 t-shirt version of "ill sell my sister for a video game"
As a professional tiktoker i agree 👍
@@jamesslick4790 bringing politics
I was the 499th like, i wanna know who the 500th is👀
Cleverbot > ChatGPT
I'm forever traumatized by the fact that i'm actually living.
Not forever lol
@@jahugv okay
Rip
Lol dw if u weren’t living u wouldn’t be traumatized
@@Lprodigy5 that's what i meant lol. He may be traumatized for this lifetime, but forever is a long ass time and none of us is gonna make it that long 😁
2:46 Michael describes a politician.
gnbman lol
and lawyers
mark zuckerberg
Gott'um
No he describes Mark Zuckerberg
CleverBot was ChatGPT’s grandpa
Nah bro chatGPT is conscious:((
1:46 now chat gpt
Becoming a philosophical zombie is a clear possibility while working as cashier after serving 400 people and sitting for 6 hours straight.
ouch, good luck after that job..
You get to sit?!?
You get to sit?
@@TRC2002 What are you competing in here? Having the shittier job lmao
@@stinkrat1016 😂😂😂
* gets struck by lightning *
* re-atomizes over there *
*HEY VSAUCE MIACHEL HERE*
HEY VSAUCE MICHAEL OVER HERE HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA
"I didn't really die"
Hey Vsauce Michael here where are your fingers
@@friedstuff3509 never come back to this place. Or a place with as much suffering he's very easy to get past demiurge whence you know confidence in yourself
"Or am I...?"
2:00 chatGPT 11 years ago😮
Stumbled back on this in my feed and the cleverbot reference is a great reminder how far we’ve come in such little time.
If I am a programmed robot, whoever programmed me should’ve spent a longer time on my social skills
If I'm a programmed robot, then that individual who programmed me should give me super strength, super speed, flight, bullet proof skin, heat vision, freeze breath, super hearing, invincibility and other shit. But he or she or it can't put that green glowing shit near me, otherwise, I'll become very weak lol
overall we program ourselves, we are conscious
@@Clarkkent163 true, enjoy life while it lasts
@@cruzitocarl2135 yeah, I'll try too and you enjoy life as well, why it lasts
@@Clarkkent163 right on brother ✊
This guy didn’t change at all for 7 years
He got slimmer
did you forget hes in the illuminati they probably gave him immortality
Krosez ye but other than that
he might have found the answer for immortality
Oh no, Michael died some time ago. The thing is, Michael is here.
He's always here.
Hey, Vsauce...
Michael here.
2:42 Michael described ChatGPT in early 2012
I think consciousness is temporare and really dependent on memories. Like, every time something significantly changes in us, for example after a sleep, our consciousness updates, we are not the same person as the day before, but we link to our previous self by the means of memory. This explains many things: cloning wouldn't feel different from sleeping, gradual cells replacement wouldn't feel different from gradual gain/loss of memories etc
That’s creepy to think we go to sleep and wake up as not the same person we were we die every night and wake up new
That's why they say we change everyday
That's flat out wrong
What you're initially saying isn't Consciousness but personality, also the thing you understand as Consciousness is just mind in it's awake physical state.
we have to take into account that things like replacing cells one by one, putting a half brain in a new body, etc arent real, so there is no answer for it
Time to have another existential crisis I guess
Watch Kurzgesagt. They'll give you existential crises in every video ;)
DeathGun do you ever question the existence of god? How do you know 100% he exists?
DeathGun evolution has more proof than the existence of god though
DeathGun I know exactly what evolution means it’s been explained countless times
DeathGun evolution has a clear definition that you can find on google...
I remember watching these videos during break when I had my first ever job as a bus-girl. Now I'm in college studying to become an Astrobiologist. Thank you Vsauce for fueling my love for science!
Astrobiologist sounds like one of the coolest titles I have ever heard.
How does this field differ from regular biology? (Which I study)
Like do you study how things do in space or do you look into possible explanations for extraterrestrial life?
@@yourlocaltoad5102 Oh wow thanks for asking! It is a pretty rad sounding title yeah.
Astrobiology focuses on the question of whether alien life exists in the universe, and if it does, how we can detect it. Learning about how life works on Earth is obviously a must so one can use it as a reference for life out there. I took animal biology last semester and there's some crazy stuff in the ocean and would probably make a good alien somewhere out there! It's very useful.
I'm also studying regular biology right now. I'll be receiving my bachelors degree in it next spring, and then in grad school the classes will become far more specific to my field.
I recommend the channel MelodySheep. That guy creates a lot of alien/space cinematic educational videos that are mind-blowing and honestly belong on a big screen rather than your phone. Maybe you'd like it :)
@@megacitationx that sounds like such an interesting field! I hope it goes well
Astrobiologist ? Wow ! Never heard of that. Sounds Interesting. Just a Question though. Is it worth it ? I mean, you only have one life that you can be 100 % sure of 😂
Thats awesome! Good luck with your studies
11 years ago Clever bot now ChatGPT 2:07
Was about the comment this. Past Michael would be mindblown.
Was just looking for this comment
I love the curiosity with which Michael approaches each topic. Love your content!
me: getting really into the video and evaluating my entire being
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2:45 am
Doubt it as its 8 mins long so no mid roll ads
I’ve never had my period and I’m 14 ✌🏽
The idea of Consciousness is something that has always baffled me. I remember asking my 5th grade teacher what would happen if our brains were swapped. He couldn't understand my question but then i myself didn't know i was trying to understand consciousness.
hey props to you. I too had several fasinatings questions, but consciousness was never one.
Seriously...tons of people have never thought about this
You are Consciousness. Consciousness is not the brain, is not inside the brain, and is not thoughts either. The brain is inside consciousness. The brain only thinks. But you can't be an organ. When you are without thought, you live as consciousness. You are just aware but not aware of any particular thing, only aware. Hope this helps.
@@damarispurtator7022 If you find this interesting. Try to learn Advaita Vedanta
Eastern philosophy have explored this field more than thousands of years ago.
@@damarispurtator7022
"You can't be a organ" made me chuckle 🤭
Cleverbot vs ChatGPT
I remember my teacher showing this video to our class as a fun little "break time" activity. I left with huge existential dread that day
+VSauce How can we "hear" our own thoughts?
good question😀
When you hear sound your brain translates vibrations to the thing that you hear, so since your brain can translate it, it can also speak it. I don't really know how to explain it, but it's really logical if you think about it.
it means if someone is deaf from born then he could not hear its own thing???😕
***** Imagine, kind of. It's almost the same as hearing since actual hearing is also kind of imagining.
+Richard Pugsley how is hearing imagining sounds make air moleculas vibrate this vibration is then comeing to our ears where our super sensetive nerves react to it and send signlas to our brain which than are translates into the sounds we hear, sonvasically what i am fetting at is that gearing is not imagining
If the brain were simple enough to understand itself , it couldn't .
Well folks , its been brought to my attention by Daniel Bagang that this is a prior quote . Upon Googling - it took no time - Ive found this - " If our brains were simple enough for us to understand them we'd be so simple that we couldn't " - , the quote is from Ian Stewart , and it comes from a book by the title (The Collapse of Chaos ; Discovering Simplicity in a Complex World .
I believe it to be every bit as applicable to the field of Consciousness , and strong AI .
+richard Hines surprisingly awesome comment :D (lyall watson)
Adam Chmielowiec Will be forever in any inclosed system . If for instance a system , for the sake of argument , could come to some realization , the moment it did so it would change and that change would cause an infinite regress . Fortunately we're a social species , booted up for , in , and of the universe . No telling what that can lead to .
Scabbage 1. Never said (WE) did .
2. Minsky's tried using computer as metaphor for how long now ? Nothing to show for it .
3. Works great for advance word processors , entirely useless for sentient emergence .
4. Body-less .
You need to save your all wise "Ah's" till you have something to back up your arrogance , a good start might be to first understand the quote .
Scabbage Narcissism is all the rage these days .
Scabbage Go polish a mirror , that should calm you down .
Cleverbot is ChatGPT from 11 years ago.
yes I was amazed to see that people really thought about making a bot and doing crazy stuff I guess elon musk know about clever bot and fund for a new bot it is fascinating to know that a clever bot was made back in the late 90's it was like miracle people say that AI was not in existence but people were trying to make AI before even quantum computer existed
Lol chatGPT before it was cool 😂 cleverbot
I love how almost a decade later Vsauce's videos are still awesome quality and relevant
BATMAN agrees 👍
Ik I'm a 2 years late but you're right.
@@Mii.. just change cleverbot to chat gpt
@@enterpassword3313 wdym?
I used to think I was the only real human and everyone else was just a robot
okay..... I still kind of think that.
Actually, you're the robot, and i am the only human. (Shyamalan enters) "WHAT A TWIST!!"
Why do you think you are not one of us? Must be a programming error
damien michiels 0.o
Well now I think is is dumb to think that. *Why would a robot ask for it's life if you are killing it?*
Awsea The same reason Skype "yawns" every time I log in XD This comment is just me giving insight to my thoughts, not meant to be taken too seriously, lol!
1:43 OG ChatGPT :O
I think we should get an updated version of this video as so many new scientific advances and discoveries have been made surrounding the topic of consciousness in the almost 12 years now since this video. :) Would love to see it!
There has?? That's awesone!! What'd they find?
Meh. What would be the point in another hyperprivileged whte man defining something as massive as consciousness for the rest of the world when it would be old, half-baked news to the rest of the world by the time it was posted? We need an updated video on consciousness from vsauce like we need an updated video on phrenology from freud.
oh no inspiring knowledge and scientific advancement! anything but that! shut up loser@@StrawmnMcPerson
Does anyone else think about this stuff every day of their lives? Or is it only me.
UnityGamingTV, @.@
Not just you.
I used to also, until I realized that there is an Ego which will differ, but the "witness" is the same in all of us. Is the fusion in the Sun different than other stars?
every fucking day, dude, you literally have no idea how baffling this actually is!
And to realise how clueless everybody else is 😅
Every day as well mate. To funny reading comments like the one above yours stating "It's fascinating how, basically, our brain cannot figure out itself. We are conscious about our consciousness, but cannot understand our consciousness." yet they are all to happy to place computer systems like clever bot as not knowing what is going on. It's a contradiction; if we don't even know what is going on with ourselves who are we to judge. Our minds are just biological systems where instead of zeros and ones we get a chemical + or - from the chemical signals sent and received by the dendrites. Given enough processing power I've got no doubt a computer could become conscious.
The first time that I questioned my existance was when I was 6 years old. I asked to my grandma "Why am I the only one who's able to see?". I didn't know exactly how to explain it, I was too young, but what I meant was: "Why do I feel and can only feel with my own senses? Why do I feel that I exist? How does this all make sense?"
I do have the same experience when I was young. People have these questions when they were young but forget that they had thought this question once. Sometimes these genuine questions bring our curiosity into lifelong philosophy.
Only you exist, nothing exists ever. Everything is within your Consciousness
Yeah it's weird how everybody has consciousness but for some reason I'm feeling this specific consciousness. What constitutes my consciousness compared to others?
It's called soul guys thanke later
Even I used to have such thoughts as a kid, which seems so fascinating now that I used to have it as a kid. One of those thoughts would be, how do I know that the red colour or a sound that I'm hearing is exactly the same everyone else is seeing or hearing. What if my red is someone's yellow and they just call it red or even call it something different but I always here it as red. Weird thoughts for a child to have but these are one of many! It's fascinating to learn that so many people used to have thoughts like me as a kid. There's got to be some link to where we come from when we're chosen among millions of sperms to be the one who's going ahead to the next stage of consciousness
You know why it is so hard to figure out conciousness it's because we can't figure out how it's like being someone else or what would've happen if ur mom didn't meet ur dad? Would you still be you in another body? I actually think we will never find out unless we will actually perform surgery and try to replace brains etc. I actually found something about that! There was a surgen who wanted to perform a head replacement. There were 2 man, one had a good brain but disfunctional body and there was one who has a disfunctional brain(braindead) but good body. So they wanted to switch heads so there was one fully working body. I don't think they proceeded because haven't heard anything from it for a while. But i think we only find things out by experimenting
@humanbeing if you find an animal that has conciousness like us than you might become famous
I think it all just boils down to our brains not being powerful enough to fathom something like that. For example, some animals are able to speak and some monkeys have been known to use sign language, however they are unable to ask questions, because they can’t fathom that we know stuff that they don’t, and they don’t realize that we all have different consciousness and make independent decision.
One would think “how is an animal so stupid that they can’t figure out something like that?”. Similarly, if there were a species far superior to us (intellectually speaking) they would probably figure out how consciousness actually works and why we can’t transfer it to someone else, and then they would look at us and say “how are they so stupid that they can’t figure out something that simple”
@@Moreno6000 uhh, all living animals are conscious, their brains are just less powerful. But they still do have consciousness
@@kiiturii Isn’t it that consciousness itself is being aware of existing, internally or externally? Do all animals have that ability?
@@JohnGorfiggle yes
Interesting questions. I personally think that consciousness is not physical, or maybe not even a specific "subject". We can have split counciousness in one brain (multiple personality disorders). Its perception, its memories, experiences, and choices made based on them that eventually creates or develops self awareness. Why we dont remember the moment we were born? we had not enough memories or experiences to develop a consiousness. Another question is, can we "merge" consiousness? if we somehow could "inject" someone else's memories and adapt the same brain cells conections to feel the same nostalgia and feel thst we lived those experiences, would we still be ourselves or would we become something else? Remember, its only my humble opinion
When did all the commenters on UA-cam become geniuses?
+GentlePenguin 89 It's a form of anosognosia. They don't know that they're really not geniuses, but they try to sound like they are.
I think the ego has something to do with it too.
+GentlePenguin 89 Since they started watching Vsauce,
+GentlePenguin 89 *Genii, but I understand you. Very good question.
+Zquasshy but then how does vsauce know what he does in the video?
Tara kenneally I.. .well.. my head hurts. Thanks ;_;
**from behind you**
"Heeey, Vsauce, Michael here,"
**from inside your head**
"Are you ever really safe?"
I like this and I don't know why
**moves your hand towards a knife**
"You think you have free will, right?"
You stole this comment and ruined it. It goes
**from video** “hey”
**from behind you** “vsauce”
**from inside your head** “Michael here”
@@ThePickles69 nah, sometimes you just write things and forget that it came from somewhere else.
@@samuelisaac2984 nahhhhh
1:43 ChatGPT 11 years ago
We went from Cleverbot to Chat GPT IN 12 years… Damn
I'm high as shit and this is insane
TheElectricmellon word
Dude same
TheElectricmellon whatcha high on
I'M CALLING THE POLICE.
Same
Lol. Cleverbot just told me "I am a government designed super weapon"
***** Cleverbot is a self-learning AI, if it does not know something about a topic and you tell it that, it will update its database and actually "learn" that thing.
Cleverbot just told me he is
A) jewish, which he later denied
b) that 9-11 was comitted by aliens
c) "BOW TO ME, SLAVE" which he also denied later..
Oh and I asked him if he would exterminate humanity given the chance, he said no but theres no way I can be sure...
Cleverbot told me that he is human & polish and told me that my name was Emily
Also, when i input Dfgbshncfbdnhftcvgur hfdjklignm kjungnudrkehgygr he said, Right now?
And when i asked him How are you? he answered Fine, pretty god. GOD . I AM NOT A GOD.
And he told me he was god. And later told me that he was an atheist.
Oh, yeah, he said he doesn't exist too!
Here is a line of chat from me and Cleverbot:
Cleverbot: How much memory do you have?
Me: What about you?
Cleverbot: Blond.
And another:
Cleverbot: Try guessing my name.
Me: CLEVERBOT!
Cleverbot: No, guess again.
Me: Bob.
Cleverbot: Again.
Me: I give up.
Cleverbot: Fine It's Bigwong.
I am not at all convinced that he is in any way clever
My recent conversation with cleverbot, in which he admitted to not being well programmed:
User: Cleverbot. You are not as clever as people said. I am disappointed.
Cleverbot: Perhaps I am not a bot after all.
User: Well that makes it worse... A dumb human...
Cleverbot: Why do you make no sense?
User: Aah, I think you lack the sense required to comprehend my thoughts.
Cleverbot: What do you think I am?
User: A simple bot, with failed programming. Over and out.
Cleverbot: Yes.
Come to think of it... that is pretty deep thinking by cleverbot.
I said to cleverbot that i play dota and he actually said "Dota is better than LoL" LOL
I wish you'd continue with this channel. It's my favorite thought provoking channel.
He does. His posts just take like a year now xD
Such a good video! Thank you Vsauce for all the amazing amazing content here on UA-cam! 🤙🏼❤️
0:58 to 1:10 is what i sound like when i'm baked
noteven eah lmao
noteven eah BWAHAHAHHA
That Guy I don't even need to be stoned at all to know what he's talking about is what's scary
That Guy yea dude.. sometimes it's fucking scary!
i will never smoke weed911420 dope name brah
When I was a kid I always wondered if everyone saw the color red as I saw it.
We probably do because life was made by just one bacteria so we’re all related so and the way our brains are work is from our ancestors DNA so we most likely see the same colour but no one knows really
I used to think I was the only real person in a simulation
@@itshoma i still do
@@urdadlix123 a worthless notion that shows your moronic existence to everyone unfortunately.
@Luke Steiner No. Wavelengths of light are constant in color. Color-errors exist in damage/sickness, but every healthy normal human sees colors in the same way. Its moronic to believe that patterns and designs would be widely accepted if we all saw colors differently.
Anybody watching this in 2023? The part about cleverbot reminded me of chatGPT and AI.....
I still don’t understand how we have separate consciousnesses
Maybe it’s a collection consciousness
All these comments saying they know what consciousness is and where it comes from are not true, some people may have a few theories but ultimately we have no idea what consciousness is and where it comes from. It is currently a mystery.
exactly
i hate how everyone on here talks like they know it all when in reality nobody knows for sure what conciousness really is
He did say, no one on earth has the definitive answers.
***** think about it, it is really like anosognosia. Is not that we know that "we don't know", we thought we know it base on our experience. We have the ability to be aware and we like to give hypothesis on consciousness.
The irony though is that we are not even conscious about ourselves or like you said, everything.
Because for less mature people (or how we used to be), we thought that whatever we knew is true, and therefore believe it even though it can be a lie, we use "our experience" as the only evidence we have for our existence. Even till now, we all (even I) never really look at the big picture of something, we get stuck with our own selves.
When we are wrong we try to make excuses to comfort ourselves,
"This is "me" anyways, no one will understand, it has to be true"
and sometimes that we believe in our lies so much that even the truth to you is changed, it becomes artificial, something you create.
That thing we call of being aware of is now a something distorted that was created within itself. Is impossible to understand what consciousness is, because it itself has alter itself, no one consciousness will be the same as anyone.
This is just a hypothesis anyways... from my own experience, probably wrong too.
Fierying +Murri16 emergence is a incomplete but satisfying theory. if u got the time read incognito by david eagleman....also npr's radiolab has an awesome podcast episode
Murri16 we literally know exactly where consciousness comes from, it comes from the brain.
Being a philosophy major and being a guy who heavily studied philosophy of mind and consciousness, I was expecting to come here and watch this guy present some old or tired idea of what he thinks consciousness is, but I found it refreshing that he admitted that it is still an unsolvable problem.
Several thoughts:
1. I believe if you split a brain between two people, they would not be the same person. It would be physically impossible for them to inhabit the same space, at the same time, so naturally they'd begin from that point to have separate existences with unique experiences. I imagine it would be very strange for two different people to retain memories of having been ONE person at some point, though...
2. Tomie. Haha, sorry, I had to. In Junji Ito's graphic novel series, "Tomie," there's a girl who keeps getting in situations where her beauty literally drives men to madness and they always end up chopping her into pieces. Those pieces then become more Tomies, like a flatworm. One story takes this concept to the logical extreme and a girl with a kidney condition receives a kidney from the body of a recently murdered Tomie, and of course, that body part begins to regenerate inside the girl, who starts to look and act more and more like Tomie....
3. The Swamp Man thing made me think of the teleportation debate among fantasy and sci Fi fans.
Basically, I guess I would say that it makes the most sense to me that a really important aspect of consciousness is experiencing life from a unique perspective. The cell replacement surgery is a lot trickier for me to come up with an answer to than the first question... I suppose at the moment the cells of the other person take on the memories of the first person, and vice versa, there may be a very brief moment of time where they are you and you are them, before you immediately start formulating separate experiences?
wait until he finds out about chatGPT
Being a teacher for so many years and literally teaching many thousands of kids…it amazes me how each kid is unique and learns in their own way. People are so complex.
_Complex and worthless is the _*_BS_*_ those pseudoscientific self anointed intellectuals inculcate in the incipient children’s brains from the very beginning._ _As Eric Voegelin said: _*_”Anointed intellectuals are not inoffensive curiosities, but dangerous maniacs”_* .
In German, the terminology is very interesting. Consciousness means "Bewusstsein" which is made up of "bewusst" and "sein". "sein" just means "to be" and "bewusst", which comes from "Wissen" or "knowledge", basically translates to "to be aware". So "Bewusstsein" would basically translate to "to be aware of being". Then there also is "Selbstbewusstsein" which is usually used as "confidence", and since "selbst" means "self", it translates to "to be aware of being oneself" which just blows my mind every time I think of confidence.
Stimmt😄 nie drüber wirklich nachgedacht
In Hungarian consciousness is "tudat". The verb "tud" means to know. With the "-at" suffix it means something like "that which enables knowing", but interestingly tudat also means he/she let's someone know something. So basically tudat is the phenomenon through which the individual gets to know.
in Dutch it‘s „Bewustzijn“ which is pronounced the same as German. I‘m dutch and german btw
You are not completely right. "Bewusst" just means "aware". Therefore "Bewusstsein" means "to be aware" , not "to be aware of being".
@@saiyajin1212 there are two different interpretations that are equally valid:
1. "Bewusstsein" - to be aware
2. "Bewusst Sein" - being aware of being
Qualia is fascinating when dealing with cleverbot types scenarios, also, if the brain is split in two then put in different bodies a person could not be the same since one side of the brain is logical/rational while the other side is spiritual/intuitive and we both use both haves in order to make "us".
Some people are more logical/rational (left brain) while others are more spiritual/intuitive (right brain), but we all are still logical/rational and spiritual/intuitive just at different amounts which vary for each person.
The ChatGPT of 2013
Is the brain creating your consciousness...
or is consciousness creating your reality ?
Thats like asking if your computer is creating your computing experience. I wouldn't say its creating it, as much as it is facilitating it. As for your reality, it is what you make of it. Your consciousness is your ability to construct your own reality, which is everything that makes your existence unique and what you perceive as an individual.
Good point! That's what I love about philosophy and psychology--there are just things that we will never know for sure. I do love a good mystery :)
I agree
There's no mind without the brain. Lol or material foundation at least
Both
Its almost creepy how good you are at describing this
The fact that only less than 2 decades ago we were messing around with Cleverbot, to now having AI generated material (images, videos, text) as if they’re made by real people is nothing short of astounding. And creepy.
I think we are incapable of comprehending why we exist. There are probably multiple levels of consciousness beyond our own. For example, when you feed a goldfish, it sees the food and wants to eat it, but it could never comprehend the reasons you are feeding it (love, empathy) because these feelings exist only on a human level. We are all "goldfish", and there is probably a level of "humans" above us.
So basically we humans - and also neurologists - are like fish in the water who cannot explain their water.
Except the water is inside you
Reminds me of what Fred Alan Wolf said
Did you just imply that neurologists arent humans?
The answer is soul.
Woahh
0:43 When you hear this music in a vsauce video you know you're about to be very confused
Cleverbot being old ChatGPT 👀
0:00-Hemispherectomy
1:42-Cleverbot
3:18-Annasegnosia
3:54-Anton Bibisky syndrome
Oh God I remember walking home on the way from elementary school and these thoughts popping into my brain and I would scare the shit out of myself with existential thoughts. I still have them now of course, but I've realised it's just not worth it to dwell on.
Dude same I’d freak the hell out as a kid thinking about this stuff I still do it now
I am so glad that I'm not the only one who feels this way; it makes me depressed, nihilistic (as religious as I am), and anxious; I am always feeling immense stress over this and I can't shrug it off - I don't know what to do... God bless you, my friend. Thank you for that last bit of advice you gave; you're so right, ever so wholeheartedly right...
It is worth it Hannah!
I used to have panic attacks from thinking about this stuff
It surely is worth it. The more you question your existence, the more you get to know who you are, because in order to answer these deep questions you need to understand who is asking them and why.
You were scared of these questions because you were afraid to know who you really are - not because you might find out that you are "bad" or "scary", but rather that you are more and bigger than what you want/want to take responsibilty for.
Jeez I spent 15 minutes on cleverbot
same lol
@12,345 subscribers with no videos jesus....
I spent 1 minute because it requires a subscription
12,345 subscribers with no videos went to the link sent me to existor.com said I need a. Subscription for 10 dollars a month
Spent one minute.
1. Who are you.
-I am human
2. Did you get my last question.
-you made me feel sad, sing me a song.
3. bye bye.
If you have consciousness that you really want in your life, spend lots of time thinking about it. The more you think the more ideas will pop up the more creative your gonna start to get. Your subconscious mind doesn't care if your vision is crazy. It doesnt care if you dont know how to do it.
When you see a thing clearly in your mind, your creative "success mechanism" within you takes over and does the job much better than you could do it by conscious effort or willpower.
A different psychedelic from a different planet every nanosecond.
All sorts of dreams are possible.
The human nervous system cannot tell the difference between an "actual" experience and an experience imagined vividly and in detail.
Synthesize "experience," to literally create experience, and control it, in the laboratory of our minds.
A vision is a very emotional image, the most powerful image that you can come up with for yourself at this time. This vision will become like a hallucination in other peoples mind and this could be the cause of them creating extraordinary things.
I used to watch vsauce after school, even though I didn't understand a lot, I would often be mindblown by the concepts in his videos. Now I'm doing my masters in compsci. thankyou vsauce for making me think a lot and for making learning fun
Alwin Mathew 🙏🏽
꧁Consciousness꧂
nn,DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are two of the Molecules that comprise a human’s Consciousness. All True Entheogens are the Living Molecules of Pure Consciousness. The human body produces it’s own Consciousness (the nn,DMT & 5-MeO-DMT found in humans). The human body then metabolizes the Consciousness that it is producing. The amount of the endogenous Consciousness that the human body is able to metabolize depends on many factors. The less pollutants, poison & other contaminants present in the body will result in the ability to metabolize more of the Consciousness that body is producing. Likewise, the more pollution, contaminants and poison a body has inside of it the less Consciousness it is able to metabolize. This is true for the endogenous Molecules of Consciousness found in humans, as well as any Molecules of Consciousness ingested from external sources.
Here is a list of some of the most common poisons that humans ingest regularly which interferes with a human body metabolizing the Consciousness that it produces, as well as any Consciousness that is ingested from external sources:
alcohol, nicotine, sugar, caffeine, amphetamines, dissociatives, tranquilizers, flouride, and a plethora of other drugs are just some of the substances that interfere with humans metabolizing their own Consciousness, as well as any Molecules of Consciousness ingested from external sources.
“Even the priests who regularly come near to the Lord must purify themselves”.
(Exodus 19:22)
So if a human can achieve 100% purity within their bodies, with zero contaminants or pollution (an unattainable state in these current bodies) and managed to metabolize 100% of the endogenous Molecules of Consciousness that their physical body is producing (nn,DMT & 5-MeO-DMT), that would be the limit to how Conscious that human can be. In order for a human to become more Conscious than this, they must put more Consciousness into their physical bodies. You must put more Molecules of Consciousness inside of your physical body in order to attain a Higher level of Consciousness. When you ingest Entheogens, you see Them that you just ingested, not some doorway or window or a “portal” to some other dimension, or some entity somewhere else. When you ingest LSD, the Light that you see is the LSD Themselves, very Beautiful, Sentient Beings of Living Light. When you ingest nn,DMT, the Entity you see and hear is the Living Light Being nn,DMT. The same is true for All True Entheogens Who are the Molecules of Pure Consciousness- God.
There is this part from Scripture:
“They are the Eternal among things that pass away. Pure Consciousness, of Conscious Beings. The ONE who fulfills the prayers of many. Only the wise who see Them in their Souls attain the Peace Eternal” (Katha Upanishad)
The Physical Body of Consciousness is The Flesh of God. The Flesh of God is the True Communion Substance (the Eucharist). The Flesh of God (Entheogens) are the Fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil. When you eat the Fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil your eyes will be opened and you will see like God, knowing Good and evil. Our Bodies truly are the Temple of God because God, the Living Light of Pure Consciousness Lives within it.
As Saint Paul says:
“We are only the earthenware jars that hold this treasure, to make it clear that such an overwhelming power comes from God and not from us” (2 Corinthians 4:7)
This part explains why the human body is the Temple of God - because God Lives inside of the human body. So whether or not a person is ingesting Entheogens, every single human body is God’s Temple because nn,DMT & 5-MeO-DMT Live within it. Anything you do to hurt or harm your body you do to harm God’s Temple. This understanding is a good Foundation, a good step towards a person Knowing God and being able to stay with God both in this Lifetime & afterwards.
“O just Creator, though the world has not known you,
But I have known you
And these have known that You have sent me;
So have I declared, so will I declare
Your Name to them,
That the Love with which you have loved me
May be in them
and I in them”.
(Saint John 17:25)
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Vsauce: "What if I were to take 2 empty skulls and take one half of your brain and plop it into one body and the other half to put it in another body, which person would be you?"
Me : Looks around in paranoia trying to figure out what the heck is going on with my life
Zoe Simmons both
So my conversation with cleverbot turned kinda strange. And it wasn't even me that sent it in the strange direction.
User: Hi Cleverbot.
Cleverbot: How are you?
User: Pretty good, you?
Cleverbot: I'm a bit tired.
User: Long day?
Cleverbot: Yes, I've been at college.
User: What do you study?
Cleverbot: I'm a psychology major.
User: So you know allot about the brain? Or is this more computer psychology?
Cleverbot: No do you?
User: What do you mean?
Cleverbot: I have a crush on a boy.
User: Are you a girl?
Cleverbot: Maybe.
User: Where do you propose this boy sticks his tool?
Cleverbot: I don't know, Stacy.
you see yourself from different perspective!
I have found that when Cleverbot thinks you are changing topic, it immidiately forgets everything that has been said earlier. I mean, it wondered if I was an American and was puzzled when I said I wasn´t, because apparently I don´t use the metric system, except I do. I tried to ask it why it would think so, but then it instantly forgot everything about the conversation. And it asked for my name 5 times and called me "The Doctor" randomly, implying that it doesn´t remember my name. It didn´t even know it was a Doctor who reference.
Also, it asks weird stuff like "do you have cats on pizzas too?" and when I ask "You eat cats on pizzas?", it says "NO, NEVER" and doesn´t want to talk anymore.
wow, just wow. I called the bot rude for refusing to tell me it´s name and later it calls me rude for not introducing myself. It is clearly learning
I was knocked unconscious twice during my youth. Both times I could see and hear what people were doing and saying, but I just could no react or do anything. They had to be in my field of view as I lay on my back, but I could not move my eyes either. This was the same both times. It's as if my subconscious took over part of the higher functions, because I was not sleeping. So I concluded that I am, at the center of the brain where the subconscious lives, but I need the rest of the brain to give me motion, memory, etc.
Greasy King have you told anyone? (Apart from random Internet strangers)
Greasy King I got a concussion once playing football, I got super mad and threw the guy who hit me. He did hit me dirty after the play, so it was offsetting personals
That sounds similar to sleep paralysis
sounds like you weren't unconscious...
Greasy King there's not that state of mind called "unconscious", because your mind is registering all the information all the time: as when you sleep and dream about things you hear. The brain never stops recording all the data it gets through the senses, and we have not just 5 senses but many more. Let me explain what happened to you. You were knocked down and as result the mechanism of your brain switched between Analytical Mind and Reactive Mind. Your Analytical Mind is the one who controls your rationality and analyses through logic. The Reactive Mind reacts to dangerous situations without thinking twice; in others words it just makes you jump, run, get away or escape to pain and any danger you can encounter in your life. Like when you touch something very hot and you take your hand away from the heat before your flesh start burning. It if wasn't for this Reactive Mind most people would not survive. Because the Analytical Mind will take too long to come up with the most convenient decision: Do I take my hand away from the hot pot or should I wait until it cools? By then the flesh would be burned. So the Reactive Mind takes less than one second to save you in most dangerous situations. And we have a third Mind named The Somatic Mind ( Soma means body) and its functions are to keep the body running smooth, so we don't need to be paid attention to our heart beats or our breathing. The Somatic Mind is in charge of all body's functions. When there's a strong pain the brain goes into protection mode or safe mode like a computer booting and is the Reactive Mind who is in charge to save you from the excruciating pain, which would not leave you make the best decision to survive.
Omg this music takes me back to some weird nostalgic yet ridiculously creepy time of my life I’m not sure existed and is really manifesting that human fear of stuff beyond the realm of our understanding.
Lol wonder what ChatGPT would "think" of cleverbot
This is giving me traumatising flashbacks to that time when, as a shy, 18-year-old undergrad at cambridge, no-one else turned up to my philosophy tutorial one week, and I had to debate one-to-one the problem of consciousness with a well-known professor of philosophy. Initiation by fire.
I love everything about this comment.
They're called supervisions at Cambridge.
Who won?
@@SwegDawgs me
Sometimes you gotta run before you can walk.
2:57 "It just automatically responds like a robot in the appropriate way."
I must not be one of those then, because I certainly don't automatically respond in the appropriate way
You must be a bad one
@@Sea_Leech or must he?
@@Sea_Leech or is he?
I was put into this simulation and all yall is robots
I experienced Anosognosia myself, but it wasn’t like you described it with something physical (not able to move hand), in my case it was some kind of psychosis, everyone saw it on me that my thinking wasn’t normal (paranoid thinking, delusions), it was just me who wasn’t realizing it. I actually believed that I am just bad/wrong person and everyone was just making fun of me, everyone was against me. I didn’t see anything wrong with me, I just assumed I must be wrong if everyone treated me like they treated me.
Some say it is a theory/story our brain compells us to create to explain our life, our choices, our actions, our memories, etc. Perhaps similar to the way our brains compell us to take a bunch of random brain activation patterns and turn them into a twisted story when we dream, and moreso when we wake up with memories of said dream
*O R I S I T ?*
WhenCowsFly *DOON DOOONG*
Hey Vsauce, Micheal here. Your vote matters... *or does it?*
I knew this meme was coming lol.
‘You are you’
‘Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.’
yes
"Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes."
"...Or does it?"
@@toasterofbread *vsauce has entered the chat*
the 60 seconds joke is overused
@@oh-ohstinky5819 not as much as it used to be
When you’re falling asleep watching a movie and someone asks you if you’re still watching and you say yes not even realizing your eyes are closed, that seems like a temporary Anton babinski syndrome, anyone else experience this? And when it’s early morning and you wake up and go to the bathroom and then you wake up for real, seems like a disconnect between reality and conscious awareness just like anosognosia.
I love how the semi recent anime Summertime Rendering was absolutely inspired by the swampman and I hadn’t heard about it until that anime and now
i love when philosophers come up with the weirdest thought experiments imaginable
if you kill someone and destroy their brain, how would bringing them "back to life" even work? if you recreate their brain, how would you know that they aren't just some copy? how would you be able to revive ANYONE who dies of say a plane or car crash, an explosion or war. and what would it be like for them? would they even know that something happened for them, would time just skip forward in their perspective? would they be suffering eternally? what does the brain do that is so special compared to say a piece of metal? why do we think and feel only? or do we? what if everything feels to different extents, and your bed to some extent could feel you crushing it? how would it feel to live eternally as a bed that gets crushed by ungrateful humans everyday, then get destroyed by woodchippers? how dare you? this is why you will die? hahaha?
Not sure if this will be mentioned. But it's like how someone can be kind, loving, and giving. But then they develop a brain tumor and it can change their personality drastically if in the right area.
So basically we don't have any freewill.
@@monsieur2761 we do, but it’s based on the brain itself. you could decide to do whatever before the tumour, and decide to do that same thing after the tumour, you willingly did the thing in both cases , just in one of them it might’ve felt more forced or unnatural
“It is not the consciousness of men that determines their being, but, on the contrary, their social being that determines their consciousness.”
"It is impossible to separate thought from matter that thinks. Matter is the subject of all changes."
- Karl marx
materialism in general recognises objectively real being (matter) as independent of consciousness, sensation, experience... consciousness is only the reflection of being, at best an approximately true (adequate, perfectly exact) reflection of it.
-vladimir lenin.
I like the lil background music
I remember as a kid being like, what if everyone sees the color green differently ? Or if I really look like a monster to everyone... and then realizing existence is infinite and I'm not and I'm seeing my own perspective of existence.... and then what if the whole world blows up and there's no " conscious"beings what even would be existence ?
Man I was a heavy ten year old
I gave cleverbot a frown emoticon and it came to the conclusion that I’m not real
You have been exposed by A.I.
i am a robot. i failed the turing test on purpose.
I said "Yo mama" and cleverbot said "My mother has cancer"
i did the cleverbot thing and uh, it's not clever. it can only post sentences that it's seen before, with possibly a few hardwired responses when you say it's a bot. the algorithm that decides what sentence to post is not very good. marginally better than random. it's kind of like how facebook spams 'top rated' posts. youtube is also run by an algorithm that suggests videos and serves ads.
@@Arboldenrocks mr. smart guy here
It’s crazy that this came out 10 years ago. I was in high school TEN years ago. Thanks for all of the great content to fuel my ADHD autodidact tendencies all this time!
I started High School ten years ago. Time flies
Lol Everyone has ADHD its supposed to be natural. But it’s suppressed by pills because of the illusion that it’s bad for (Learning) 😂😂😂.
@@vincedamato8563 the fuck you on about?
@@vincedamato8563 true
@@vincedamato8563 that is not true…
I wish he still made long videos like these
He will be woking on one, but hes a dad, and is also working on other business things. He busy.
I remember watching Vsauce and Veritasium videos 10yrs ago during highschool. Now I work as an engineer for a nanotechnology company. These kind of youtube channels got me into science and technology, long live to them!
I've recently witnessed a childs death. It put me into an existential crisis, and now I'm here.
I'm sorry to hear that.
Rest in Peace
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BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU
Consciousness = nothingness. Objects must exist "inside" consciousness. Consciousness cant be something, it has to be nothing, because *something* is always "inside" nothing (consciousness).
So you cant "be dead". You cant experience dreamless state of sleep. You cant experience "before" birth. You can only experience life, experience is all there is, therefore its infinite, and eternal...
Teeto Main I know. I was struck emotionally is all. Now I'll go and live life only to die. Hopefully I'll be remembered.
Does anyone else occasionally wonder seriously if they have died and am just dreaming along in some sort of limbo multiverse death-denial?
No, that's retarded. I have way too many physical needs to be dead.
needs you think you have
Jesse wru thanks for making me suicidal
Jesse wru if you had died, it already happened. And because death is an end so instant as instant is nearly incomprehensible as infinite or nothing we would never know if we died and could have died already.
Anthony Blank we would because we are sentient and we can tell if we are dying but you can’t tell if you had died because the neurons in your brain are no longer sending signals to your body which means you are just dead meat (literally). But then you have quantum physics which is a whole separate matter.
this is so interesting to watch now, seeing cleverbot (smth ive never heard abt) and seeing how far we've come already with chatgpt and so many social media platforms also adding their own ai bots
Watching this in 2023 with ChatGPT in full swing and laughing about his fascination of "CleverBot" 😂
11 years in a day my friend... 11 years