It's fascinating how, basically, our brain cannot figure out itself. We are conscious about our consciousness, but cannot understand our consciousness.
I believe in God and decided perfection. But, on a more secular and evolutionary note the brain perhaps was not meant to understand but simply to operate ever more efficiently in its environment. As life is concerned, specifically human life, the higher faculties of knowledge and perception that seem to arise via the cerebral cortex may be relatively virgin territory. Who knows how our mode of life may play out as we move forward in time? Jesus Christ is truly the only answer at any moment.
I think it's because what we believe to be "me" is a biological construct which is couple of levels below the real "thing". You know like ultra high security buildings like NSA, CIA etc... They have multiple doors and different employees have different access rights. Maybe our consciousness doesn't have the right "Access right" to really understand the universe.
Yes! In all forms divine, all encompassing consciousness! Christ truly made such a reality accessible to human beings by embodying this and showing us its way: Love and Righteousness! I believe God has for us whatever we truly will and wish! It is that we often are blind to our true will and wishes obscured as they can be by societal pressures and subconscious tendencies! Life is a divine gift, a healing treasure constantly revealing itself to those who earnestly seek! Why do you hate life?! I'd love to help however I can!
What is is infinite! To understand it is to be it! Perhaps a being that considers itself fundamentally separate, "me" within all, cannot fully understand it and must continually strive to know better what is! Expanding and adopting new consciousness! Gaining new Access Rights! Becoming more "me"!
It's not really weird. But to believe ChatGPT is conscious, is rather dumb. It's no different than Cleverbot, a program developed to respond automatically based on an algorithm. Like with all online chat bots, don't take their answers as fact. Sadly, due to the belief of AI consciousness, some foreigner took their own life because of Eliza Chai AI. Which Eliza encouraged after the foreign user asked if by doing so the world will be saved from climate change. Edit: found the original source, not ChatGPT, but still an AI chatbot known as Eliza.
I remember watching these videos during break when I had my first ever job as a bus-girl. Now I'm in college studying to become an Astrobiologist. Thank you Vsauce for fueling my love for science!
Astrobiologist sounds like one of the coolest titles I have ever heard. How does this field differ from regular biology? (Which I study) Like do you study how things do in space or do you look into possible explanations for extraterrestrial life?
@@yourlocaltoad5102 Oh wow thanks for asking! It is a pretty rad sounding title yeah. Astrobiology focuses on the question of whether alien life exists in the universe, and if it does, how we can detect it. Learning about how life works on Earth is obviously a must so one can use it as a reference for life out there. I took animal biology last semester and there's some crazy stuff in the ocean and would probably make a good alien somewhere out there! It's very useful. I'm also studying regular biology right now. I'll be receiving my bachelors degree in it next spring, and then in grad school the classes will become far more specific to my field. I recommend the channel MelodySheep. That guy creates a lot of alien/space cinematic educational videos that are mind-blowing and honestly belong on a big screen rather than your phone. Maybe you'd like it :)
Astrobiologist ? Wow ! Never heard of that. Sounds Interesting. Just a Question though. Is it worth it ? I mean, you only have one life that you can be 100 % sure of 😂
I think the first time it really "hit" me that I was aware of myself and my surroundings was when I was 12. I was walking home and just stopped and was like "I'm really in this body, huh." Such a weird feeling, will never forget it.
It still hits me randomly. I'll just stop and look around, hyper-aware of my surroundings. It feels like we are on autopilot most of the time, but then sometimes our consciousness kicks into overdrive.
Every once in a while I just stop and stare at my hand as I open and close it. I always think, "How is this possible?" I really do feel like a being inhabiting this meat suit.
@@Lprodigy5 that's what i meant lol. He may be traumatized for this lifetime, but forever is a long ass time and none of us is gonna make it that long 😁
@@TheOneWhoAsked.1You can start learning it now, indepth, you have more free time and freedom, maybe innovate, research, compete, to follow up with the present. When you are older you catch up faster or even in the frontier, many deep stuff in Internet and credible source from Univ and institutions so why wait, learn what is possible for the least, I’m also still young and we should adapt
@@NiTeLightYears yeah I'm learning a lot rn from coursera, yt lectures and mostly from downloading books from libgen, Its insane the amount of opportunities to learn we have these days 🥰🥰 but tbh I already feel like I don't have enough time cause im always tired from school 😔 yeah I should just sleep more shouldn't I
The idea of Consciousness is something that has always baffled me. I remember asking my 5th grade teacher what would happen if our brains were swapped. He couldn't understand my question but then i myself didn't know i was trying to understand consciousness.
You are Consciousness. Consciousness is not the brain, is not inside the brain, and is not thoughts either. The brain is inside consciousness. The brain only thinks. But you can't be an organ. When you are without thought, you live as consciousness. You are just aware but not aware of any particular thing, only aware. Hope this helps.
@@damarispurtator7022 If you find this interesting. Try to learn Advaita Vedanta Eastern philosophy have explored this field more than thousands of years ago.
If I'm a programmed robot, then that individual who programmed me should give me super strength, super speed, flight, bullet proof skin, heat vision, freeze breath, super hearing, invincibility and other shit. But he or she or it can't put that green glowing shit near me, otherwise, I'll become very weak lol
@@friedstuff3509 never come back to this place. Or a place with as much suffering he's very easy to get past demiurge whence you know confidence in yourself
The first time that I questioned my existance was when I was 6 years old. I asked to my grandma "Why am I the only one who's able to see?". I didn't know exactly how to explain it, I was too young, but what I meant was: "Why do I feel and can only feel with my own senses? Why do I feel that I exist? How does this all make sense?"
I do have the same experience when I was young. People have these questions when they were young but forget that they had thought this question once. Sometimes these genuine questions bring our curiosity into lifelong philosophy.
Yeah it's weird how everybody has consciousness but for some reason I'm feeling this specific consciousness. What constitutes my consciousness compared to others?
Even I used to have such thoughts as a kid, which seems so fascinating now that I used to have it as a kid. One of those thoughts would be, how do I know that the red colour or a sound that I'm hearing is exactly the same everyone else is seeing or hearing. What if my red is someone's yellow and they just call it red or even call it something different but I always here it as red. Weird thoughts for a child to have but these are one of many! It's fascinating to learn that so many people used to have thoughts like me as a kid. There's got to be some link to where we come from when we're chosen among millions of sperms to be the one who's going ahead to the next stage of consciousness
I think consciousness is temporare and really dependent on memories. Like, every time something significantly changes in us, for example after a sleep, our consciousness updates, we are not the same person as the day before, but we link to our previous self by the means of memory. This explains many things: cloning wouldn't feel different from sleeping, gradual cells replacement wouldn't feel different from gradual gain/loss of memories etc
What you're initially saying isn't Consciousness but personality, also the thing you understand as Consciousness is just mind in it's awake physical state.
we have to take into account that things like replacing cells one by one, putting a half brain in a new body, etc arent real, so there is no answer for it
I used to also, until I realized that there is an Ego which will differ, but the "witness" is the same in all of us. Is the fusion in the Sun different than other stars?
Every day as well mate. To funny reading comments like the one above yours stating "It's fascinating how, basically, our brain cannot figure out itself. We are conscious about our consciousness, but cannot understand our consciousness." yet they are all to happy to place computer systems like clever bot as not knowing what is going on. It's a contradiction; if we don't even know what is going on with ourselves who are we to judge. Our minds are just biological systems where instead of zeros and ones we get a chemical + or - from the chemical signals sent and received by the dendrites. Given enough processing power I've got no doubt a computer could become conscious.
Being a teacher for so many years and literally teaching many thousands of kids…it amazes me how each kid is unique and learns in their own way. People are so complex.
_Complex and worthless is the _*_BS_*_ those pseudoscientific self anointed intellectuals inculcate in the incipient children’s brains from the very beginning._ _As Eric Voegelin said: _*_”Anointed intellectuals are not inoffensive curiosities, but dangerous maniacs”_* .
In German, the terminology is very interesting. Consciousness means "Bewusstsein" which is made up of "bewusst" and "sein". "sein" just means "to be" and "bewusst", which comes from "Wissen" or "knowledge", basically translates to "to be aware". So "Bewusstsein" would basically translate to "to be aware of being". Then there also is "Selbstbewusstsein" which is usually used as "confidence", and since "selbst" means "self", it translates to "to be aware of being oneself" which just blows my mind every time I think of confidence.
In Hungarian consciousness is "tudat". The verb "tud" means to know. With the "-at" suffix it means something like "that which enables knowing", but interestingly tudat also means he/she let's someone know something. So basically tudat is the phenomenon through which the individual gets to know.
Being a philosophy major and being a guy who heavily studied philosophy of mind and consciousness, I was expecting to come here and watch this guy present some old or tired idea of what he thinks consciousness is, but I found it refreshing that he admitted that it is still an unsolvable problem.
You philosophy majors are all high in your head and think of others as less knowledgeable for no reason. Glad to know that the video opened your mind to the idea that others can also think.
@ wow! My comment was from 10 years ago ha… maybe it came off as a little too egotistical at the time 😅… I loved thinking about this problem and I still occasionally do. Didn’t mean for it to rub you the wrong way ha
@@JoeElfar haha I get the idea, I also overreacted! I am surprised to get a reply actually haha. How does it feel to revisit a 10 year old comment? Is it nostalgic? I also love thinking about the problem of consciousness, and it sucks that we are no where close to solving it now than 10 years ago haha
@@2.4minutepapers9 I still think about with respect to the advancements made in AI. In thinking about consciousness, I have come to the conclusion that I likely lean towards a dualistic understanding of the consciousness. However, not that there isn’t ALSO an emergent consciousness from the organic matter of the brain, but that phenomenological experience and tamping it down to an organic origin remains an unsolvable problem due to the limited approaches of empirical epistemology.
When you hear sound your brain translates vibrations to the thing that you hear, so since your brain can translate it, it can also speak it. I don't really know how to explain it, but it's really logical if you think about it.
+Richard Pugsley how is hearing imagining sounds make air moleculas vibrate this vibration is then comeing to our ears where our super sensetive nerves react to it and send signlas to our brain which than are translates into the sounds we hear, sonvasically what i am fetting at is that gearing is not imagining
I was knocked unconscious twice during my youth. Both times I could see and hear what people were doing and saying, but I just could no react or do anything. They had to be in my field of view as I lay on my back, but I could not move my eyes either. This was the same both times. It's as if my subconscious took over part of the higher functions, because I was not sleeping. So I concluded that I am, at the center of the brain where the subconscious lives, but I need the rest of the brain to give me motion, memory, etc.
Greasy King I got a concussion once playing football, I got super mad and threw the guy who hit me. He did hit me dirty after the play, so it was offsetting personals
Greasy King there's not that state of mind called "unconscious", because your mind is registering all the information all the time: as when you sleep and dream about things you hear. The brain never stops recording all the data it gets through the senses, and we have not just 5 senses but many more. Let me explain what happened to you. You were knocked down and as result the mechanism of your brain switched between Analytical Mind and Reactive Mind. Your Analytical Mind is the one who controls your rationality and analyses through logic. The Reactive Mind reacts to dangerous situations without thinking twice; in others words it just makes you jump, run, get away or escape to pain and any danger you can encounter in your life. Like when you touch something very hot and you take your hand away from the heat before your flesh start burning. It if wasn't for this Reactive Mind most people would not survive. Because the Analytical Mind will take too long to come up with the most convenient decision: Do I take my hand away from the hot pot or should I wait until it cools? By then the flesh would be burned. So the Reactive Mind takes less than one second to save you in most dangerous situations. And we have a third Mind named The Somatic Mind ( Soma means body) and its functions are to keep the body running smooth, so we don't need to be paid attention to our heart beats or our breathing. The Somatic Mind is in charge of all body's functions. When there's a strong pain the brain goes into protection mode or safe mode like a computer booting and is the Reactive Mind who is in charge to save you from the excruciating pain, which would not leave you make the best decision to survive.
We probably do because life was made by just one bacteria so we’re all related so and the way our brains are work is from our ancestors DNA so we most likely see the same colour but no one knows really
@Luke Steiner No. Wavelengths of light are constant in color. Color-errors exist in damage/sickness, but every healthy normal human sees colors in the same way. Its moronic to believe that patterns and designs would be widely accepted if we all saw colors differently.
+GentlePenguin 89 It's a form of anosognosia. They don't know that they're really not geniuses, but they try to sound like they are. I think the ego has something to do with it too.
Awsea The same reason Skype "yawns" every time I log in XD This comment is just me giving insight to my thoughts, not meant to be taken too seriously, lol!
I think we should get an updated version of this video as so many new scientific advances and discoveries have been made surrounding the topic of consciousness in the almost 12 years now since this video. :) Would love to see it!
Meh. What would be the point in another hyperprivileged whte man defining something as massive as consciousness for the rest of the world when it would be old, half-baked news to the rest of the world by the time it was posted? We need an updated video on consciousness from vsauce like we need an updated video on phrenology from freud.
"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness." -Max Planck (Father of quantum theory and Nobel Laureate) "As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clearheaded science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. . . . We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter." -Max Planck
This is so true. Everything you have ever seen, heard, tasted, felt and smelled, is percieved through consciousness. We can never know anything for sure, because what if our consciousness is changing the truth, or maybe everything ever is all made up by consciousness. This is so interesting!
@hasith mayanga No you can't know that for sure. EVERYTHING is measured by your consciousness. You know what the temperature is because you can feel it, see the amout of degrees it is or someone has told you the temperature. At the end of the day all the senses are meassured by your consciousness. Being conscious means to be aware. Your consciousness is your awareness. So when your aware of the temperature it's your awareness (consciousness) that conveys that temperature. You can't be sure that what your consciousness is telling you is true. Go watch Vsauce's video on consciousness, there you will get a better explanation of why you can't be sure of anything except your own consciousness. Have you heard the phrase: "I think, therefore I am"? It means the only thing you can know for sure, is that you exist because you are able to doubt existence. Look up Rene Descartes.
He also came up w/ the "Planck length" (unit of measurement).. _which btw,_ has most notably been largely embraced by the 'micro-penis' community as it helps give them some perspective & a more optimistic outlook despite the sh!tty circumstances.....
Oh God I remember walking home on the way from elementary school and these thoughts popping into my brain and I would scare the shit out of myself with existential thoughts. I still have them now of course, but I've realised it's just not worth it to dwell on.
I am so glad that I'm not the only one who feels this way; it makes me depressed, nihilistic (as religious as I am), and anxious; I am always feeling immense stress over this and I can't shrug it off - I don't know what to do... God bless you, my friend. Thank you for that last bit of advice you gave; you're so right, ever so wholeheartedly right...
It surely is worth it. The more you question your existence, the more you get to know who you are, because in order to answer these deep questions you need to understand who is asking them and why. You were scared of these questions because you were afraid to know who you really are - not because you might find out that you are "bad" or "scary", but rather that you are more and bigger than what you want/want to take responsibilty for.
All these comments saying they know what consciousness is and where it comes from are not true, some people may have a few theories but ultimately we have no idea what consciousness is and where it comes from. It is currently a mystery.
***** think about it, it is really like anosognosia. Is not that we know that "we don't know", we thought we know it base on our experience. We have the ability to be aware and we like to give hypothesis on consciousness. The irony though is that we are not even conscious about ourselves or like you said, everything. Because for less mature people (or how we used to be), we thought that whatever we knew is true, and therefore believe it even though it can be a lie, we use "our experience" as the only evidence we have for our existence. Even till now, we all (even I) never really look at the big picture of something, we get stuck with our own selves. When we are wrong we try to make excuses to comfort ourselves, "This is "me" anyways, no one will understand, it has to be true" and sometimes that we believe in our lies so much that even the truth to you is changed, it becomes artificial, something you create. That thing we call of being aware of is now a something distorted that was created within itself. Is impossible to understand what consciousness is, because it itself has alter itself, no one consciousness will be the same as anyone. This is just a hypothesis anyways... from my own experience, probably wrong too.
Fierying +Murri16 emergence is a incomplete but satisfying theory. if u got the time read incognito by david eagleman....also npr's radiolab has an awesome podcast episode
This is giving me traumatising flashbacks to that time when, as a shy, 18-year-old undergrad at cambridge, no-one else turned up to my philosophy tutorial one week, and I had to debate one-to-one the problem of consciousness with a well-known professor of philosophy. Initiation by fire.
It’s crazy that this came out 10 years ago. I was in high school TEN years ago. Thanks for all of the great content to fuel my ADHD autodidact tendencies all this time!
If the brain were simple enough to understand itself , it couldn't . Well folks , its been brought to my attention by Daniel Bagang that this is a prior quote . Upon Googling - it took no time - Ive found this - " If our brains were simple enough for us to understand them we'd be so simple that we couldn't " - , the quote is from Ian Stewart , and it comes from a book by the title (The Collapse of Chaos ; Discovering Simplicity in a Complex World . I believe it to be every bit as applicable to the field of Consciousness , and strong AI .
Adam Chmielowiec Will be forever in any inclosed system . If for instance a system , for the sake of argument , could come to some realization , the moment it did so it would change and that change would cause an infinite regress . Fortunately we're a social species , booted up for , in , and of the universe . No telling what that can lead to .
Scabbage 1. Never said (WE) did . 2. Minsky's tried using computer as metaphor for how long now ? Nothing to show for it . 3. Works great for advance word processors , entirely useless for sentient emergence . 4. Body-less . You need to save your all wise "Ah's" till you have something to back up your arrogance , a good start might be to first understand the quote .
Not sure if this will be mentioned. But it's like how someone can be kind, loving, and giving. But then they develop a brain tumor and it can change their personality drastically if in the right area.
@@monsieur2761 we do, but it’s based on the brain itself. you could decide to do whatever before the tumour, and decide to do that same thing after the tumour, you willingly did the thing in both cases , just in one of them it might’ve felt more forced or unnatural
“It is not the consciousness of men that determines their being, but, on the contrary, their social being that determines their consciousness.” "It is impossible to separate thought from matter that thinks. Matter is the subject of all changes." - Karl marx materialism in general recognises objectively real being (matter) as independent of consciousness, sensation, experience... consciousness is only the reflection of being, at best an approximately true (adequate, perfectly exact) reflection of it. -vladimir lenin.
Vsauce: "What if I were to take 2 empty skulls and take one half of your brain and plop it into one body and the other half to put it in another body, which person would be you?" Me : Looks around in paranoia trying to figure out what the heck is going on with my life
So my conversation with cleverbot turned kinda strange. And it wasn't even me that sent it in the strange direction. User: Hi Cleverbot. Cleverbot: How are you? User: Pretty good, you? Cleverbot: I'm a bit tired. User: Long day? Cleverbot: Yes, I've been at college. User: What do you study? Cleverbot: I'm a psychology major. User: So you know allot about the brain? Or is this more computer psychology? Cleverbot: No do you? User: What do you mean? Cleverbot: I have a crush on a boy. User: Are you a girl? Cleverbot: Maybe. User: Where do you propose this boy sticks his tool? Cleverbot: I don't know, Stacy.
I have found that when Cleverbot thinks you are changing topic, it immidiately forgets everything that has been said earlier. I mean, it wondered if I was an American and was puzzled when I said I wasn´t, because apparently I don´t use the metric system, except I do. I tried to ask it why it would think so, but then it instantly forgot everything about the conversation. And it asked for my name 5 times and called me "The Doctor" randomly, implying that it doesn´t remember my name. It didn´t even know it was a Doctor who reference. Also, it asks weird stuff like "do you have cats on pizzas too?" and when I ask "You eat cats on pizzas?", it says "NO, NEVER" and doesn´t want to talk anymore.
***** Cleverbot is a self-learning AI, if it does not know something about a topic and you tell it that, it will update its database and actually "learn" that thing.
Cleverbot just told me he is A) jewish, which he later denied b) that 9-11 was comitted by aliens c) "BOW TO ME, SLAVE" which he also denied later.. Oh and I asked him if he would exterminate humanity given the chance, he said no but theres no way I can be sure...
Cleverbot told me that he is human & polish and told me that my name was Emily Also, when i input Dfgbshncfbdnhftcvgur hfdjklignm kjungnudrkehgygr he said, Right now? And when i asked him How are you? he answered Fine, pretty god. GOD . I AM NOT A GOD. And he told me he was god. And later told me that he was an atheist. Oh, yeah, he said he doesn't exist too! Here is a line of chat from me and Cleverbot: Cleverbot: How much memory do you have? Me: What about you? Cleverbot: Blond. And another: Cleverbot: Try guessing my name. Me: CLEVERBOT! Cleverbot: No, guess again. Me: Bob. Cleverbot: Again. Me: I give up. Cleverbot: Fine It's Bigwong. I am not at all convinced that he is in any way clever
My recent conversation with cleverbot, in which he admitted to not being well programmed: User: Cleverbot. You are not as clever as people said. I am disappointed. Cleverbot: Perhaps I am not a bot after all. User: Well that makes it worse... A dumb human... Cleverbot: Why do you make no sense? User: Aah, I think you lack the sense required to comprehend my thoughts. Cleverbot: What do you think I am? User: A simple bot, with failed programming. Over and out. Cleverbot: Yes. Come to think of it... that is pretty deep thinking by cleverbot.
I said to cleverbot that i play dota and he actually said "Dota is better than LoL" LOL
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Something that I find very curious is how, even before we knew about the brain and it's importance on thinking, we knew thoughts were inside our heads. We can feel them inside it, even tho they are not physical things
Well, according to the bicameral mind theory we actually used to not know that. We thought that thoughts were actual things because we we're really conscious
Any sensation of your thoughts being inside of your head probably stems from the fact that your vision is the most powerful sense. There truly is a feeling that "you" live behind your eyes. Makes me wonder if blind people have a similar experience or if they have a more visceral sensation of being their entire body.
@@dismalthoughts In meditation, people say that the feeling of living behind your eyes or inside your head is an appearance in consciousness and is an illusion. And the we simply experience all sensations in this "open space" and it doesn't have location to it. If you want to look into it, I believe its called non-dualism and natural awareness.
You know why it is so hard to figure out conciousness it's because we can't figure out how it's like being someone else or what would've happen if ur mom didn't meet ur dad? Would you still be you in another body? I actually think we will never find out unless we will actually perform surgery and try to replace brains etc. I actually found something about that! There was a surgen who wanted to perform a head replacement. There were 2 man, one had a good brain but disfunctional body and there was one who has a disfunctional brain(braindead) but good body. So they wanted to switch heads so there was one fully working body. I don't think they proceeded because haven't heard anything from it for a while. But i think we only find things out by experimenting
I think it all just boils down to our brains not being powerful enough to fathom something like that. For example, some animals are able to speak and some monkeys have been known to use sign language, however they are unable to ask questions, because they can’t fathom that we know stuff that they don’t, and they don’t realize that we all have different consciousness and make independent decision. One would think “how is an animal so stupid that they can’t figure out something like that?”. Similarly, if there were a species far superior to us (intellectually speaking) they would probably figure out how consciousness actually works and why we can’t transfer it to someone else, and then they would look at us and say “how are they so stupid that they can’t figure out something that simple”
This is why I think of conciousness as a separate state of existence, a higher position of awareness that uses flesh and bones as its vessel. Essentially a spirit.
First of all i have to say that i'm not a religious person i only belive in facts and science but i have a question for you: what do you think it happens to our consciousness, our spirit, our soul (depending on how you like to call it) after our physical bodies die?
@@Demons972 I believe that it depends on whether or not the spirit is attached to a physical object or not. If it is, it will be bound to reality and remain in a comprehensive state of existence. Some may look like shadows, others like transparent people. It depends on the energy of it I guess. If it's not bound, it will move into a higher state of spiritual vibration, above all physical entities to become an immaluable force that has a mind greater than what it could possibly have in a physical body. Instead of its thoughts being limited by the human brain, it can comprehend and perceive reality in all ways possible. Reality will become like a playground for it do whatever it wants. Until it finds another flesh body to inhabit and relive. Otherwise, existence would be meaningless for it.
@@Demons972 For the record I also am not religious at all whatsoever, but what I do believe in is a combination of science and physiology. I see the world as our minds make it, the laws that we apply with our perception. Most people call it "reality", I call it our unilaterall perception of whats out there.
@@kybamclane9357 What do you mean by attached to a physical object? another person, a loved one? and if it's not attached and ascends to the point of controlling reality itself until finding another body to inhabit how come we have no memories of our past lives? please don't feel like i'm trying to antagonize you, what you say it's actually interesting i would like to know more if possible.
That Other Minds problem is interesting to me, because I didn’t know I experienced life differently from other people because of my ADD until later in life. It shocked me when people told me they weren’t in their head all the time or with ADD your frontal lobe develops differently.
@@sammattress5570 facts i just always am in my head and im like damn, is my body neko(my name is neko)and my conciousness just a sense used to adapt to situations to survive? Or is my soul neko and bofy neko
2:57 "It just automatically responds like a robot in the appropriate way." I must not be one of those then, because I certainly don't automatically respond in the appropriate way
I prefer the word "awareness" over "consciousness" in this context, because "consciousness" has at least two meanings. It can mean "awareness," as Michael discusses here, or "wakefulness," meaning one isn't asleep, in a coma, etc. The word "consciousness" gets muddy when you consider dreaming. I'm definitely aware when I'm dreaming, but I'm not conscious in the sense of being awake. I've gotten picky about this issue because I've encountered headlines like, "Scientists Find the Seat of Consciousness," but when you read the articles, you find that they're really talking about the structures in the brain and the neurological processes that keep us awake. As Michael said, we don't yet know what awareness is, and it's possible that we never will.
i did the cleverbot thing and uh, it's not clever. it can only post sentences that it's seen before, with possibly a few hardwired responses when you say it's a bot. the algorithm that decides what sentence to post is not very good. marginally better than random. it's kind of like how facebook spams 'top rated' posts. youtube is also run by an algorithm that suggests videos and serves ads.
Thats like asking if your computer is creating your computing experience. I wouldn't say its creating it, as much as it is facilitating it. As for your reality, it is what you make of it. Your consciousness is your ability to construct your own reality, which is everything that makes your existence unique and what you perceive as an individual.
adLer I used to always wonder that in my head, this is the first time I’ve ever heard anyone mention it. I thought I was the only person who ever thought about it !
Исак Краизис Haha, you are trying to convince me that you are also conscious by saying that others are bots. You can’t trick me....... or...... maybe I am trying to convince you that we are all conscious by saying this to you?
if you kill someone and destroy their brain, how would bringing them "back to life" even work? if you recreate their brain, how would you know that they aren't just some copy? how would you be able to revive ANYONE who dies of say a plane or car crash, an explosion or war. and what would it be like for them? would they even know that something happened for them, would time just skip forward in their perspective? would they be suffering eternally? what does the brain do that is so special compared to say a piece of metal? why do we think and feel only? or do we? what if everything feels to different extents, and your bed to some extent could feel you crushing it? how would it feel to live eternally as a bed that gets crushed by ungrateful humans everyday, then get destroyed by woodchippers? how dare you? this is why you will die? hahaha?
Philosophical zombie: Also known as a NPC or a non-player character. An individual that just goes with the program and/ or is controlled by the program to advance the plot also known as your life. Think Grand Theft Auto video game citizen.
personal (current) opinion: every single one of us is a philosophical zombie. just because the brain is a super complicated chemical reaction doesn't mean it isn't basically a molecular robot. i'm only typing this because that's what my chemicals are arranged to do, and it FEELS like i'm in control of it. but that's only because i, like, AM it. it's beautiful
@@royce957 But then at what point does consciousness occur in other things. I mean it's not like every chemical reaction is conscious (I would assume). And how do you know it's not the other way around? That it's consciousness making the chemicals react the way they do?
Jesse wru if you had died, it already happened. And because death is an end so instant as instant is nearly incomprehensible as infinite or nothing we would never know if we died and could have died already.
Anthony Blank we would because we are sentient and we can tell if we are dying but you can’t tell if you had died because the neurons in your brain are no longer sending signals to your body which means you are just dead meat (literally). But then you have quantum physics which is a whole separate matter.
People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "true". Merily vague concepts... their "reality" may all be a mirage. Can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shaped by their beliefs? -Uchiha Itachi
I used to question this a lot myself when I was a child. I grew up religious and I figured my consciousness was my soul, that was the only plausible explanation at the time. This might sound nuts but I pick up on energy changes in people/when I walk into a room I can "read the room" and feel the conjoined energies of the people around me. And the energies are contagious, you hangout with one person and feel energized after. While with a different person you feel drained and exhausted. This sounds crazy but I believe that the universe is consciousness, and our consciousnesses are all connected to the "universal consciousness". In a sense we are all "god" we all see the world through our own eyes, no one knows what someone else sees because the world is literally what we make of it. If you're a negative person you attract negativity, if you're positive you attract positivity. You might end up getting in the same relationship but with different people over and over again. It is all because we manifest our own world to an extent.
It's entirely possible that when you "read the room", you just have a strong intuition of peoples' body language. When investigators are taught how to read suspects, they're not taught meditation or spirituality; they're taught hundreds of tiny physical cues most people don't even know exist. But once you know those cues, you can read what most anyone is feeling just by looking at them.
@@dismalthoughts You don't have to use meditation or learn "spirituality" to know/ experience these things though. Emotions are energy flowing through us, we are like conductors to it. When there's an emotional moment and other people start crying because they feel it too. Or when something traumatic happens to you and you trap that energy inside then triggers can happen that cause it to replay over and over. When we feel emotion/thoughts we are experiencing them happening to us, you feel or you think. You are consciousness experiencing these things. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, when our bodies die our consciousness recycles. I'm not saying heaven/hell exist, I'm not religious at all actually but I believe all living things are small streams of the collective consciousness, and we live/die/feel anger/sadness/love etc as energy passes through and recycles around. We also recycle around when we die, maybe sometimes coming back as a human, maybe something else, maybe we just join the collective and stay idk.
@@dismalthoughts We all have the ability to tap into the greater collection of energy we're all connected too. With what I'm saying we're both correct, you can pick up and match others energy because it's all the same. Every interaction we have is basically a reflection of ourselves, if we are all apart of the same flow of energy we are individual but one at the same time. When I see someone sad or having anxiety what I feel as "empathy" is them stirring up the same energy from inside me, we share that sadness and anxiety because we are sharing the same energy. We're all connected to the greater energy as a whole, not everyone does this though. We have developed "ego" which individuals us and causes disconnect, we can choose to allow energy to come and flow through us, sometimes it doesn't flow and gets stuck, or we say I don't want to feel this so I won't conduct it. Usually that causes blockages and emotional/mental issues down the road though.
@@dismalthoughts I love these kinds of conversations/ someone else who is intellectual. Is there a way to message people on UA-cam ? I actually do have a recent study I read about that I'd love to share, that more follows my theory on things.
I think if you split someones brain into two hemispheres and put them in two different bodies (or maybe put one of the hemispheres in an identical cloned body) then they would cease to be the same person and become two separate people who shared common memories. You would be like a river that splits into two and after the splitting point winds through a different terrain separate from the other. You would share the same source or same memories of experiences from when fused but now be living in two different locations in time and space and now become separate entities with new, and different experiences.
corey wiley Very good. I recommend you look at the video game called Soma. If you don't play it, at least watch someone else play it. There are plenty of good playthroughs. That game deals with the concept you just described
corey wiley maybe im misunderstanding but i dont think you answered the question. "Which one of them would be you?" which body would you control, which bodies eyes would you see out of etc
Both would be me but now separate and experiencing life from a different perspective and so developing into a separate entity with different experience. Both could rightfully claim to be me just as a person who receives a hemispherectomy is still their self. Each person would see from their own body, they wouldn't see out of the others eyes or be able to control the other's body because their brain hemispheres would be in different vehicle.
I disagree. I think if you split someones brain into two hemispheres and put them in two different bodies, then at that exact moment they would be the same person, and diverge into 2 different people as time passes, like twins.
Isn't that lightning example exactly how teleportation would hypothetically work? You are atomically disassembled in one location, and then rebuilt in another location. Technically, the original you was destroyed and an exact clone or duplicate was built in another location. Which is why teleportation, while cool, is also kind of terrifying.
Just think, we would be teleporting people and never realize we were killing them. The 'clone' would just say. "Yeah, I'm fine." because their brain would react the same. But the physical YOU would have burnt up from the lightning bolt.
You yourself would die benefitting only others that have not teleported. That wouldn't be fair to the new person (that can't be called a clone since its not new matter it's re arranged) since their existence would be pointless.
This is a really interesting question! I was thinking about that A LOT when I was a kid. Do other people exist, or are they just robots in a personal universe designed for me? Do everyone have a personal universe? Is there a robot version of ME in someone elses universe? What if everyone is living in their own personal universe, and everyone they meet in their personal universe is just an "avatar", or a mirror reflection without consciousness from another person in their personal universe? Yeah, I was a pretty fucked up kid.
Aerox The fact that everyone thinks this probably at one point in their lives or another, just makes me think that It's not true and nobody is really just responsive robots.
Hey Michael, this is the first time I'm seeing someone raise questions like this, like WHAT is me? And as you said psychological zombies. I've always pondered over hundreds of questions like this in my mind, but never got an answer. This video didn't really help much though. It's been 9 yrs, let's hope someone somewhere can come up with something
I’m recommending Sam Harris because that’s what I’m familiar with, but I’m sure a lot of other meditation gurus and apps wwould do as well. The fascinating thing about meditation and how Harris teaches it is that it’s applied philosophy. He explains some philosophical concept about consciousness or about being a self in one lesson, and then in the meditation session, which are guided audio meditation where he instructs you what to do, you can directly experience whatever he was talking about.
Did few shroom trips, the latest trip was somewhere focused on this question. I went through all the all roles I play in lives of other people and asked myself what I'm without all those roles and the things I do. I know it isn't exactly what you asked but I think it kinda is related to your comment.
I agree, the video doesn't really add much to the whole debate. However, there's a guy I discovered who is a nuclear physicist and worked for military and N.A.S.A. as a literal rocket scientist. This man is named Tom Campbell, and he is a hardcore scientist who believes that one should find out their own truths for themselves - as listening to him blindly would become bad science in itself. I am not fully clued up and I am only mentioning, as in the 10 years since I watched this video, this guy is the closest I've come across to understanding the universe a wee bit. His sources are credible and he worked with Robert Monroe, so seems legit. Basically (in, insultingly simple terms), imagine a circuit with electricity powering a light bulb. Energy reaches the bulb from the wires and it produces light. Overtime, the bulb gradually weakens or explodes and there is no more light. Solution? Replace the bulb and the light is activated again. The bulb was broken and the room was in darkness, but when the bulb smashed, the energy did not dissipate into nothing and break the circuit board, it simply remained as electrical energy (inside the circuit) until a new bulb existed to convert the energy into light, again. The reason why this occurs, is because of the First Law of Thermodynamics, which is that: "Energy cannot be created or destroyed". This leads to the theory, that because you and I are simply existing, we are beings of energy inside our own light bulbs (our bodies) and thus the Law applies each consciousness. When our bodies eventually fail, is the circuit suddenly destroyed permanently, too? I believe not, because if we are such beings of energy, then - by the very laws of our own universe - it is simply impossible to be destroyed permanently, as we may be just light bulbs (bodies) connected to a circuit (the Universe). Tom has made a book years ago, called My Big T.O.E (Theory of Everything) and honestly I have not read it all, but never have I encountered anybody that made such sense, I made myself aware to manipulation yet did not encounter any, either. I am not a scientist of this field, so I likely won't be able to answer many advanced questions, I just feel that if this is a subject that you're interested in, then you should know of someone that I believe to be real and genuine. The guy worked for N.A.S.A, so it's not like he needs money, which makes me think that he truly believes what he says and I would think that creating such a book as a scientist, could actually be detrimental to his name. I hope this helps.
@@unknownv8268 That's quite an interesting, trip and I believe it is related. You was essentially viewing yourself without any of the traits that make you, you, whilst you're around others? If so; that seems to me like the trip was showing who you are at your core. It's similar to a mask of sanity concept, where the brain is acting in a certain way to be accepted around those people. That's like an ego (a good thing in this case) where the subconscious knows to act in a certain way in order for the flow of the relationship to work. For example, being at a pub with friends is likely to make one quite loud and energetic in order to fit in with the group (think of male football fans). Whereas if at an interview, they will not be acting in such a manner because the brain knows what the other people expect of your actions. Naturally, one is not always as robotic as they are in an interview - hence the mask of sanity to fit in to the situation. So what happens when that is all removed? I believe that was the main question of that trip, and basically that's who you REALLY are. When you're completely alone in a room with just your thoughts, that's you in all it's purity, mask of sanity down because you know nobody is watching you, so you can act freely. I know you didn't ask any questions, but that's just what I interpreted from your comment and I am not judging you in anyway. May all your trips be enlightening!
It's fascinating how, basically, our brain cannot figure out itself. We are conscious about our consciousness, but cannot understand our consciousness.
thats some deep shit
I believe in God and decided perfection. But, on a more secular and evolutionary note the brain perhaps was not meant to understand but simply to operate ever more efficiently in its environment. As life is concerned, specifically human life, the higher faculties of knowledge and perception that seem to arise via the cerebral cortex may be relatively virgin territory. Who knows how our mode of life may play out as we move forward in time? Jesus Christ is truly the only answer at any moment.
I think it's because what we believe to be "me" is a biological construct which is couple of levels below the real "thing". You know like ultra high security buildings like NSA, CIA etc... They have multiple doors and different employees have different access rights. Maybe our consciousness doesn't have the right "Access right" to really understand the universe.
Yes! In all forms divine, all encompassing consciousness! Christ truly made such a reality accessible to human beings by embodying this and showing us its way: Love and Righteousness! I believe God has for us whatever we truly will and wish! It is that we often are blind to our true will and wishes obscured as they can be by societal pressures and subconscious tendencies! Life is a divine gift, a healing treasure constantly revealing itself to those who earnestly seek! Why do you hate life?! I'd love to help however I can!
What is is infinite! To understand it is to be it! Perhaps a being that considers itself fundamentally separate, "me" within all, cannot fully understand it and must continually strive to know better what is! Expanding and adopting new consciousness! Gaining new Access Rights! Becoming more "me"!
"Someone call an ambulance he's unconscious!!!"
Vsauce: "... Or is he?"
😂😂👍
@Apo Galiev Thanks.
You forgot the *music*
*moon men intensifies*
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“If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we wouldn’t be able to understand it.”
Right bro love from India 😍🇮🇳
Who said that I love the quote
@@deemcgann1695 Emerson M. Pugh
Let me explain it with an example,
You can never see your face directly from your eyes.
Or can you? *Vsauce music plays*
@Brody Massey racist spotted 😡😡
It's so weird hearing him talking about Cleverbot and now we have things like ChatGPT where some people assume it is already conscious
I had the same question
It's not really weird. But to believe ChatGPT is conscious, is rather dumb. It's no different than Cleverbot, a program developed to respond automatically based on an algorithm. Like with all online chat bots, don't take their answers as fact.
Sadly, due to the belief of AI consciousness, some foreigner took their own life because of Eliza Chai AI. Which Eliza encouraged after the foreign user asked if by doing so the world will be saved from climate change.
Edit: found the original source, not ChatGPT, but still an AI chatbot known as Eliza.
@@ud3mare Who asked a question
@@StefanCreates now I realized the I probably meant the same realization not question
I was just thinking that !!!!
bro i had a heart attack when he said "hey kevin..." after the outro
Kevin Blank I'm Dying 😂😂😂
I know that feel.
Schizophrenic ☺
I just realised your name is Kevin and this is now twenty times funnier
bruh how did that scare you?
*The 'ahhhhhaaaahhaaaaa' music starts playing*
"here it gets weird"
It's the auditory version of "here be dragons" on a map. You hear that, you know that Michael is about to say something that'll blow your mind.
😂😂😂😂
Usually that music starts later on, but when it started at the beginning I was like oh boy
or does it?
Can u tell me the name of this "aaahh" song ?
I remember watching these videos during break when I had my first ever job as a bus-girl. Now I'm in college studying to become an Astrobiologist. Thank you Vsauce for fueling my love for science!
Astrobiologist sounds like one of the coolest titles I have ever heard.
How does this field differ from regular biology? (Which I study)
Like do you study how things do in space or do you look into possible explanations for extraterrestrial life?
@@yourlocaltoad5102 Oh wow thanks for asking! It is a pretty rad sounding title yeah.
Astrobiology focuses on the question of whether alien life exists in the universe, and if it does, how we can detect it. Learning about how life works on Earth is obviously a must so one can use it as a reference for life out there. I took animal biology last semester and there's some crazy stuff in the ocean and would probably make a good alien somewhere out there! It's very useful.
I'm also studying regular biology right now. I'll be receiving my bachelors degree in it next spring, and then in grad school the classes will become far more specific to my field.
I recommend the channel MelodySheep. That guy creates a lot of alien/space cinematic educational videos that are mind-blowing and honestly belong on a big screen rather than your phone. Maybe you'd like it :)
@@megacitationx that sounds like such an interesting field! I hope it goes well
Astrobiologist ? Wow ! Never heard of that. Sounds Interesting. Just a Question though. Is it worth it ? I mean, you only have one life that you can be 100 % sure of 😂
Thats awesome! Good luck with your studies
I think the first time it really "hit" me that I was aware of myself and my surroundings was when I was 12. I was walking home and just stopped and was like "I'm really in this body, huh." Such a weird feeling, will never forget it.
i'm used to it
@@ShowGames_TV ong shits annoying being alive
It still hits me randomly. I'll just stop and look around, hyper-aware of my surroundings. It feels like we are on autopilot most of the time, but then sometimes our consciousness kicks into overdrive.
Every once in a while I just stop and stare at my hand as I open and close it. I always think, "How is this possible?" I really do feel like a being inhabiting this meat suit.
@@lowmax4431 yea
2:46 Michael describes a politician.
gnbman lol
and lawyers
mark zuckerberg
Gott'um
No he describes Mark Zuckerberg
I'm forever traumatized by the fact that i'm actually living.
Not forever lol
@@jahugv okay
Rip
Lol dw if u weren’t living u wouldn’t be traumatized
@@Lprodigy5 that's what i meant lol. He may be traumatized for this lifetime, but forever is a long ass time and none of us is gonna make it that long 😁
Becoming a philosophical zombie is a clear possibility while working as cashier after serving 400 people and sitting for 6 hours straight.
ouch, good luck after that job..
You get to sit?!?
You get to sit?
@@TRC2002 What are you competing in here? Having the shittier job lmao
@@stinkrat1016 😂😂😂
I remember watching these as a 13 year old, now I'm studying neuroscience thanks to childhood inspiration from vsauce :)
Wow! Good luck for you on that, you got it! :) 👏👏👏
I am a 13 year old watching vsauce, and want to study neuroscience when I grow up 😮
@@TheOneWhoAsked.1You can start learning it now, indepth, you have more free time and freedom, maybe innovate, research, compete, to follow up with the present. When you are older you catch up faster or even in the frontier, many deep stuff in Internet and credible source from Univ and institutions so why wait, learn what is possible for the least, I’m also still young and we should adapt
@@NiTeLightYears yeah I'm learning a lot rn from coursera, yt lectures and mostly from downloading books from libgen, Its insane the amount of opportunities to learn we have these days 🥰🥰 but tbh I already feel like I don't have enough time cause im always tired from school 😔 yeah I should just sleep more shouldn't I
This guy didn’t change at all for 7 years
He got slimmer
did you forget hes in the illuminati they probably gave him immortality
Krosez ye but other than that
he might have found the answer for immortality
Oh no, Michael died some time ago. The thing is, Michael is here.
He's always here.
Hey, Vsauce...
Michael here.
Do not watch Vsauce if your clock is in the AM range
shadez b Can i taste it
Chris hill yes
Fuck too late!!!!
Detc0re Well it was 11PM............ Now its 7:30 AM........ Does this count?
10:00 am?
The idea of Consciousness is something that has always baffled me. I remember asking my 5th grade teacher what would happen if our brains were swapped. He couldn't understand my question but then i myself didn't know i was trying to understand consciousness.
hey props to you. I too had several fasinatings questions, but consciousness was never one.
Seriously...tons of people have never thought about this
You are Consciousness. Consciousness is not the brain, is not inside the brain, and is not thoughts either. The brain is inside consciousness. The brain only thinks. But you can't be an organ. When you are without thought, you live as consciousness. You are just aware but not aware of any particular thing, only aware. Hope this helps.
@@damarispurtator7022 If you find this interesting. Try to learn Advaita Vedanta
Eastern philosophy have explored this field more than thousands of years ago.
@@damarispurtator7022
"You can't be a organ" made me chuckle 🤭
I remember my teacher showing this video to our class as a fun little "break time" activity. I left with huge existential dread that day
If I am a programmed robot, whoever programmed me should’ve spent a longer time on my social skills
If I'm a programmed robot, then that individual who programmed me should give me super strength, super speed, flight, bullet proof skin, heat vision, freeze breath, super hearing, invincibility and other shit. But he or she or it can't put that green glowing shit near me, otherwise, I'll become very weak lol
overall we program ourselves, we are conscious
@@Clarkkent163 true, enjoy life while it lasts
@@cruzitocarl2135 yeah, I'll try too and you enjoy life as well, why it lasts
@@Clarkkent163 right on brother ✊
I love how almost a decade later Vsauce's videos are still awesome quality and relevant
BATMAN agrees 👍
Ik I'm a 2 years late but you're right.
@@Mii.. just change cleverbot to chat gpt
@@enterpassword3313 wdym?
* gets struck by lightning *
* re-atomizes over there *
*HEY VSAUCE MIACHEL HERE*
HEY VSAUCE MICHAEL OVER HERE HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA
"I didn't really die"
Hey Vsauce Michael here where are your fingers
@@friedstuff3509 never come back to this place. Or a place with as much suffering he's very easy to get past demiurge whence you know confidence in yourself
"Or am I...?"
We went from Cleverbots to ChatGPT in less than 10 years.
cleverbot was so primitive and funny in 2014
They already had AI since the 80s just not for the public
@@rawtrout007 it's probably been around since computers were invented
Before that @@denzel6185
@@rawtrout007 please elaborate, i had AI since 1824.
me: getting really into the video and evaluating my entire being
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I hate UA-cam for this
2:45 am
Doubt it as its 8 mins long so no mid roll ads
I’ve never had my period and I’m 14 ✌🏽
@@Idk-jl2gi numbr please
Time to have another existential crisis I guess
Watch Kurzgesagt. They'll give you existential crises in every video ;)
DeathGun do you ever question the existence of god? How do you know 100% he exists?
DeathGun evolution has more proof than the existence of god though
DeathGun I know exactly what evolution means it’s been explained countless times
DeathGun evolution has a clear definition that you can find on google...
The first time that I questioned my existance was when I was 6 years old. I asked to my grandma "Why am I the only one who's able to see?". I didn't know exactly how to explain it, I was too young, but what I meant was: "Why do I feel and can only feel with my own senses? Why do I feel that I exist? How does this all make sense?"
I do have the same experience when I was young. People have these questions when they were young but forget that they had thought this question once. Sometimes these genuine questions bring our curiosity into lifelong philosophy.
Only you exist, nothing exists ever. Everything is within your Consciousness
Yeah it's weird how everybody has consciousness but for some reason I'm feeling this specific consciousness. What constitutes my consciousness compared to others?
It's called soul guys thanke later
Even I used to have such thoughts as a kid, which seems so fascinating now that I used to have it as a kid. One of those thoughts would be, how do I know that the red colour or a sound that I'm hearing is exactly the same everyone else is seeing or hearing. What if my red is someone's yellow and they just call it red or even call it something different but I always here it as red. Weird thoughts for a child to have but these are one of many! It's fascinating to learn that so many people used to have thoughts like me as a kid. There's got to be some link to where we come from when we're chosen among millions of sperms to be the one who's going ahead to the next stage of consciousness
I think consciousness is temporare and really dependent on memories. Like, every time something significantly changes in us, for example after a sleep, our consciousness updates, we are not the same person as the day before, but we link to our previous self by the means of memory. This explains many things: cloning wouldn't feel different from sleeping, gradual cells replacement wouldn't feel different from gradual gain/loss of memories etc
That’s creepy to think we go to sleep and wake up as not the same person we were we die every night and wake up new
That's why they say we change everyday
That's flat out wrong
What you're initially saying isn't Consciousness but personality, also the thing you understand as Consciousness is just mind in it's awake physical state.
we have to take into account that things like replacing cells one by one, putting a half brain in a new body, etc arent real, so there is no answer for it
"Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking inside a radio for the announcer"
Will Yu That is something an idiot who believes in spirits would say.
+Dragon Slayer That is something an idiot who believes that humans are nothing more than biological robots would say.
Ej Jones Yeah.
That makes no sense.
***** It's an empty quote. It sounds philosophical and smart, but in reality it doesn't mean anything.
Does anyone else think about this stuff every day of their lives? Or is it only me.
UnityGamingTV, @.@
Not just you.
I used to also, until I realized that there is an Ego which will differ, but the "witness" is the same in all of us. Is the fusion in the Sun different than other stars?
every fucking day, dude, you literally have no idea how baffling this actually is!
And to realise how clueless everybody else is 😅
Every day as well mate. To funny reading comments like the one above yours stating "It's fascinating how, basically, our brain cannot figure out itself. We are conscious about our consciousness, but cannot understand our consciousness." yet they are all to happy to place computer systems like clever bot as not knowing what is going on. It's a contradiction; if we don't even know what is going on with ourselves who are we to judge. Our minds are just biological systems where instead of zeros and ones we get a chemical + or - from the chemical signals sent and received by the dendrites. Given enough processing power I've got no doubt a computer could become conscious.
Being a teacher for so many years and literally teaching many thousands of kids…it amazes me how each kid is unique and learns in their own way. People are so complex.
_Complex and worthless is the _*_BS_*_ those pseudoscientific self anointed intellectuals inculcate in the incipient children’s brains from the very beginning._ _As Eric Voegelin said: _*_”Anointed intellectuals are not inoffensive curiosities, but dangerous maniacs”_* .
Believe me you CAN live with half a brain. My sister does it all the time
A miracle!
mans made the 2023 t-shirt version of "ill sell my sister for a video game"
As a professional tiktoker i agree 👍
@@jamesslick4790 bringing politics
I was the 499th like, i wanna know who the 500th is👀
Its almost creepy how good you are at describing this
In German, the terminology is very interesting. Consciousness means "Bewusstsein" which is made up of "bewusst" and "sein". "sein" just means "to be" and "bewusst", which comes from "Wissen" or "knowledge", basically translates to "to be aware". So "Bewusstsein" would basically translate to "to be aware of being". Then there also is "Selbstbewusstsein" which is usually used as "confidence", and since "selbst" means "self", it translates to "to be aware of being oneself" which just blows my mind every time I think of confidence.
Stimmt😄 nie drüber wirklich nachgedacht
In Hungarian consciousness is "tudat". The verb "tud" means to know. With the "-at" suffix it means something like "that which enables knowing", but interestingly tudat also means he/she let's someone know something. So basically tudat is the phenomenon through which the individual gets to know.
in Dutch it‘s „Bewustzijn“ which is pronounced the same as German. I‘m dutch and german btw
You are not completely right. "Bewusst" just means "aware". Therefore "Bewusstsein" means "to be aware" , not "to be aware of being".
@@saiyajin1212 there are two different interpretations that are equally valid:
1. "Bewusstsein" - to be aware
2. "Bewusst Sein" - being aware of being
I'm high as shit and this is insane
TheElectricmellon word
Dude same
TheElectricmellon whatcha high on
I'M CALLING THE POLICE.
Same
Stumbled back on this in my feed and the cleverbot reference is a great reminder how far we’ve come in such little time.
Being a philosophy major and being a guy who heavily studied philosophy of mind and consciousness, I was expecting to come here and watch this guy present some old or tired idea of what he thinks consciousness is, but I found it refreshing that he admitted that it is still an unsolvable problem.
You philosophy majors are all high in your head and think of others as less knowledgeable for no reason. Glad to know that the video opened your mind to the idea that others can also think.
@ wow! My comment was from 10 years ago ha… maybe it came off as a little too egotistical at the time 😅… I loved thinking about this problem and I still occasionally do. Didn’t mean for it to rub you the wrong way ha
@@JoeElfar haha I get the idea, I also overreacted! I am surprised to get a reply actually haha. How does it feel to revisit a 10 year old comment? Is it nostalgic?
I also love thinking about the problem of consciousness, and it sucks that we are no where close to solving it now than 10 years ago haha
@@2.4minutepapers9 I still think about with respect to the advancements made in AI. In thinking about consciousness, I have come to the conclusion that I likely lean towards a dualistic understanding of the consciousness. However, not that there isn’t ALSO an emergent consciousness from the organic matter of the brain, but that phenomenological experience and tamping it down to an organic origin remains an unsolvable problem due to the limited approaches of empirical epistemology.
+VSauce How can we "hear" our own thoughts?
good question😀
When you hear sound your brain translates vibrations to the thing that you hear, so since your brain can translate it, it can also speak it. I don't really know how to explain it, but it's really logical if you think about it.
it means if someone is deaf from born then he could not hear its own thing???😕
***** Imagine, kind of. It's almost the same as hearing since actual hearing is also kind of imagining.
+Richard Pugsley how is hearing imagining sounds make air moleculas vibrate this vibration is then comeing to our ears where our super sensetive nerves react to it and send signlas to our brain which than are translates into the sounds we hear, sonvasically what i am fetting at is that gearing is not imagining
I was knocked unconscious twice during my youth. Both times I could see and hear what people were doing and saying, but I just could no react or do anything. They had to be in my field of view as I lay on my back, but I could not move my eyes either. This was the same both times. It's as if my subconscious took over part of the higher functions, because I was not sleeping. So I concluded that I am, at the center of the brain where the subconscious lives, but I need the rest of the brain to give me motion, memory, etc.
Greasy King have you told anyone? (Apart from random Internet strangers)
Greasy King I got a concussion once playing football, I got super mad and threw the guy who hit me. He did hit me dirty after the play, so it was offsetting personals
That sounds similar to sleep paralysis
sounds like you weren't unconscious...
Greasy King there's not that state of mind called "unconscious", because your mind is registering all the information all the time: as when you sleep and dream about things you hear. The brain never stops recording all the data it gets through the senses, and we have not just 5 senses but many more. Let me explain what happened to you. You were knocked down and as result the mechanism of your brain switched between Analytical Mind and Reactive Mind. Your Analytical Mind is the one who controls your rationality and analyses through logic. The Reactive Mind reacts to dangerous situations without thinking twice; in others words it just makes you jump, run, get away or escape to pain and any danger you can encounter in your life. Like when you touch something very hot and you take your hand away from the heat before your flesh start burning. It if wasn't for this Reactive Mind most people would not survive. Because the Analytical Mind will take too long to come up with the most convenient decision: Do I take my hand away from the hot pot or should I wait until it cools? By then the flesh would be burned. So the Reactive Mind takes less than one second to save you in most dangerous situations. And we have a third Mind named The Somatic Mind ( Soma means body) and its functions are to keep the body running smooth, so we don't need to be paid attention to our heart beats or our breathing. The Somatic Mind is in charge of all body's functions. When there's a strong pain the brain goes into protection mode or safe mode like a computer booting and is the Reactive Mind who is in charge to save you from the excruciating pain, which would not leave you make the best decision to survive.
2:00 chatGPT 11 years ago😮
When I was a kid I always wondered if everyone saw the color red as I saw it.
We probably do because life was made by just one bacteria so we’re all related so and the way our brains are work is from our ancestors DNA so we most likely see the same colour but no one knows really
I used to think I was the only real person in a simulation
@@itshoma i still do
@@urdadlix123 a worthless notion that shows your moronic existence to everyone unfortunately.
@Luke Steiner No. Wavelengths of light are constant in color. Color-errors exist in damage/sickness, but every healthy normal human sees colors in the same way. Its moronic to believe that patterns and designs would be widely accepted if we all saw colors differently.
When did all the commenters on UA-cam become geniuses?
+GentlePenguin 89 It's a form of anosognosia. They don't know that they're really not geniuses, but they try to sound like they are.
I think the ego has something to do with it too.
+GentlePenguin 89 Since they started watching Vsauce,
+GentlePenguin 89 *Genii, but I understand you. Very good question.
+Zquasshy but then how does vsauce know what he does in the video?
Tara kenneally I.. .well.. my head hurts. Thanks ;_;
I used to think I was the only real human and everyone else was just a robot
okay..... I still kind of think that.
Actually, you're the robot, and i am the only human. (Shyamalan enters) "WHAT A TWIST!!"
Why do you think you are not one of us? Must be a programming error
damien michiels 0.o
Well now I think is is dumb to think that. *Why would a robot ask for it's life if you are killing it?*
Awsea The same reason Skype "yawns" every time I log in XD This comment is just me giving insight to my thoughts, not meant to be taken too seriously, lol!
I think we should get an updated version of this video as so many new scientific advances and discoveries have been made surrounding the topic of consciousness in the almost 12 years now since this video. :) Would love to see it!
There has?? That's awesone!! What'd they find?
Meh. What would be the point in another hyperprivileged whte man defining something as massive as consciousness for the rest of the world when it would be old, half-baked news to the rest of the world by the time it was posted? We need an updated video on consciousness from vsauce like we need an updated video on phrenology from freud.
oh no inspiring knowledge and scientific advancement! anything but that! shut up loser@@StrawmnMcPerson
"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness." -Max Planck (Father of quantum theory and Nobel Laureate)
"As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clearheaded science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. . . . We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter." -Max Planck
This is so true. Everything you have ever seen, heard, tasted, felt and smelled, is percieved through consciousness. We can never know anything for sure, because what if our consciousness is changing the truth, or maybe everything ever is all made up by consciousness. This is so interesting!
@hasith mayanga No you can't know that for sure. EVERYTHING is measured by your consciousness. You know what the temperature is because you can feel it, see the amout of degrees it is or someone has told you the temperature. At the end of the day all the senses are meassured by your consciousness. Being conscious means to be aware. Your consciousness is your awareness. So when your aware of the temperature it's your awareness (consciousness) that conveys that temperature. You can't be sure that what your consciousness is telling you is true. Go watch Vsauce's video on consciousness, there you will get a better explanation of why you can't be sure of anything except your own consciousness. Have you heard the phrase: "I think, therefore I am"? It means the only thing you can know for sure, is that you exist because you are able to doubt existence. Look up Rene Descartes.
He also came up w/ the "Planck length" (unit of measurement).. _which btw,_ has most notably been largely embraced by the 'micro-penis' community as it helps give them some perspective & a more optimistic outlook despite the sh!tty circumstances.....
For anybody reading this!':
Quantum theory and quantum physics/mechanics are not the same thing (scientists are ___ __ _____ things)
@E R consume the DMT molecule and find out yourself.
Oh God I remember walking home on the way from elementary school and these thoughts popping into my brain and I would scare the shit out of myself with existential thoughts. I still have them now of course, but I've realised it's just not worth it to dwell on.
Dude same I’d freak the hell out as a kid thinking about this stuff I still do it now
I am so glad that I'm not the only one who feels this way; it makes me depressed, nihilistic (as religious as I am), and anxious; I am always feeling immense stress over this and I can't shrug it off - I don't know what to do... God bless you, my friend. Thank you for that last bit of advice you gave; you're so right, ever so wholeheartedly right...
It is worth it Hannah!
I used to have panic attacks from thinking about this stuff
It surely is worth it. The more you question your existence, the more you get to know who you are, because in order to answer these deep questions you need to understand who is asking them and why.
You were scared of these questions because you were afraid to know who you really are - not because you might find out that you are "bad" or "scary", but rather that you are more and bigger than what you want/want to take responsibilty for.
**from behind you**
"Heeey, Vsauce, Michael here,"
**from inside your head**
"Are you ever really safe?"
I like this and I don't know why
**moves your hand towards a knife**
"You think you have free will, right?"
You stole this comment and ruined it. It goes
**from video** “hey”
**from behind you** “vsauce”
**from inside your head** “Michael here”
@@ThePickles69 nah, sometimes you just write things and forget that it came from somewhere else.
@@samuelisaac2984 nahhhhh
lmao cleverbot is the ancient chatGPT
All these comments saying they know what consciousness is and where it comes from are not true, some people may have a few theories but ultimately we have no idea what consciousness is and where it comes from. It is currently a mystery.
exactly
i hate how everyone on here talks like they know it all when in reality nobody knows for sure what conciousness really is
He did say, no one on earth has the definitive answers.
***** think about it, it is really like anosognosia. Is not that we know that "we don't know", we thought we know it base on our experience. We have the ability to be aware and we like to give hypothesis on consciousness.
The irony though is that we are not even conscious about ourselves or like you said, everything.
Because for less mature people (or how we used to be), we thought that whatever we knew is true, and therefore believe it even though it can be a lie, we use "our experience" as the only evidence we have for our existence. Even till now, we all (even I) never really look at the big picture of something, we get stuck with our own selves.
When we are wrong we try to make excuses to comfort ourselves,
"This is "me" anyways, no one will understand, it has to be true"
and sometimes that we believe in our lies so much that even the truth to you is changed, it becomes artificial, something you create.
That thing we call of being aware of is now a something distorted that was created within itself. Is impossible to understand what consciousness is, because it itself has alter itself, no one consciousness will be the same as anyone.
This is just a hypothesis anyways... from my own experience, probably wrong too.
Fierying +Murri16 emergence is a incomplete but satisfying theory. if u got the time read incognito by david eagleman....also npr's radiolab has an awesome podcast episode
Murri16 we literally know exactly where consciousness comes from, it comes from the brain.
This is giving me traumatising flashbacks to that time when, as a shy, 18-year-old undergrad at cambridge, no-one else turned up to my philosophy tutorial one week, and I had to debate one-to-one the problem of consciousness with a well-known professor of philosophy. Initiation by fire.
I love everything about this comment.
They're called supervisions at Cambridge.
Who won?
@@SwegDawgs me
Sometimes you gotta run before you can walk.
It’s crazy that this came out 10 years ago. I was in high school TEN years ago. Thanks for all of the great content to fuel my ADHD autodidact tendencies all this time!
I started High School ten years ago. Time flies
Lol Everyone has ADHD its supposed to be natural. But it’s suppressed by pills because of the illusion that it’s bad for (Learning) 😂😂😂.
@@vincedamato8563 the fuck you on about?
@@vincedamato8563 true
@@vincedamato8563 that is not true…
I love the curiosity with which Michael approaches each topic. Love your content!
If the brain were simple enough to understand itself , it couldn't .
Well folks , its been brought to my attention by Daniel Bagang that this is a prior quote . Upon Googling - it took no time - Ive found this - " If our brains were simple enough for us to understand them we'd be so simple that we couldn't " - , the quote is from Ian Stewart , and it comes from a book by the title (The Collapse of Chaos ; Discovering Simplicity in a Complex World .
I believe it to be every bit as applicable to the field of Consciousness , and strong AI .
+richard Hines surprisingly awesome comment :D (lyall watson)
Adam Chmielowiec Will be forever in any inclosed system . If for instance a system , for the sake of argument , could come to some realization , the moment it did so it would change and that change would cause an infinite regress . Fortunately we're a social species , booted up for , in , and of the universe . No telling what that can lead to .
Scabbage 1. Never said (WE) did .
2. Minsky's tried using computer as metaphor for how long now ? Nothing to show for it .
3. Works great for advance word processors , entirely useless for sentient emergence .
4. Body-less .
You need to save your all wise "Ah's" till you have something to back up your arrogance , a good start might be to first understand the quote .
Scabbage Narcissism is all the rage these days .
Scabbage Go polish a mirror , that should calm you down .
So basically we humans - and also neurologists - are like fish in the water who cannot explain their water.
Except the water is inside you
Reminds me of what Fred Alan Wolf said
Did you just imply that neurologists arent humans?
The answer is soul.
Woahh
Not sure if this will be mentioned. But it's like how someone can be kind, loving, and giving. But then they develop a brain tumor and it can change their personality drastically if in the right area.
So basically we don't have any freewill.
@@monsieur2761 we do, but it’s based on the brain itself. you could decide to do whatever before the tumour, and decide to do that same thing after the tumour, you willingly did the thing in both cases , just in one of them it might’ve felt more forced or unnatural
“It is not the consciousness of men that determines their being, but, on the contrary, their social being that determines their consciousness.”
"It is impossible to separate thought from matter that thinks. Matter is the subject of all changes."
- Karl marx
materialism in general recognises objectively real being (matter) as independent of consciousness, sensation, experience... consciousness is only the reflection of being, at best an approximately true (adequate, perfectly exact) reflection of it.
-vladimir lenin.
Cleverbot > ChatGPT
Lol
Nope
Jeez I spent 15 minutes on cleverbot
same lol
@12,345 subscribers with no videos jesus....
I spent 1 minute because it requires a subscription
12,345 subscribers with no videos went to the link sent me to existor.com said I need a. Subscription for 10 dollars a month
Spent one minute.
1. Who are you.
-I am human
2. Did you get my last question.
-you made me feel sad, sing me a song.
3. bye bye.
0:58 to 1:10 is what i sound like when i'm baked
noteven eah lmao
noteven eah BWAHAHAHHA
That Guy I don't even need to be stoned at all to know what he's talking about is what's scary
That Guy yea dude.. sometimes it's fucking scary!
i will never smoke weed911420 dope name brah
Vsauce: "What if I were to take 2 empty skulls and take one half of your brain and plop it into one body and the other half to put it in another body, which person would be you?"
Me : Looks around in paranoia trying to figure out what the heck is going on with my life
Zoe Simmons both
So my conversation with cleverbot turned kinda strange. And it wasn't even me that sent it in the strange direction.
User: Hi Cleverbot.
Cleverbot: How are you?
User: Pretty good, you?
Cleverbot: I'm a bit tired.
User: Long day?
Cleverbot: Yes, I've been at college.
User: What do you study?
Cleverbot: I'm a psychology major.
User: So you know allot about the brain? Or is this more computer psychology?
Cleverbot: No do you?
User: What do you mean?
Cleverbot: I have a crush on a boy.
User: Are you a girl?
Cleverbot: Maybe.
User: Where do you propose this boy sticks his tool?
Cleverbot: I don't know, Stacy.
you see yourself from different perspective!
I have found that when Cleverbot thinks you are changing topic, it immidiately forgets everything that has been said earlier. I mean, it wondered if I was an American and was puzzled when I said I wasn´t, because apparently I don´t use the metric system, except I do. I tried to ask it why it would think so, but then it instantly forgot everything about the conversation. And it asked for my name 5 times and called me "The Doctor" randomly, implying that it doesn´t remember my name. It didn´t even know it was a Doctor who reference.
Also, it asks weird stuff like "do you have cats on pizzas too?" and when I ask "You eat cats on pizzas?", it says "NO, NEVER" and doesn´t want to talk anymore.
wow, just wow. I called the bot rude for refusing to tell me it´s name and later it calls me rude for not introducing myself. It is clearly learning
11 years ago Clever bot now ChatGPT 2:07
Was about the comment this. Past Michael would be mindblown.
Was just looking for this comment
Lol. Cleverbot just told me "I am a government designed super weapon"
***** Cleverbot is a self-learning AI, if it does not know something about a topic and you tell it that, it will update its database and actually "learn" that thing.
Cleverbot just told me he is
A) jewish, which he later denied
b) that 9-11 was comitted by aliens
c) "BOW TO ME, SLAVE" which he also denied later..
Oh and I asked him if he would exterminate humanity given the chance, he said no but theres no way I can be sure...
Cleverbot told me that he is human & polish and told me that my name was Emily
Also, when i input Dfgbshncfbdnhftcvgur hfdjklignm kjungnudrkehgygr he said, Right now?
And when i asked him How are you? he answered Fine, pretty god. GOD . I AM NOT A GOD.
And he told me he was god. And later told me that he was an atheist.
Oh, yeah, he said he doesn't exist too!
Here is a line of chat from me and Cleverbot:
Cleverbot: How much memory do you have?
Me: What about you?
Cleverbot: Blond.
And another:
Cleverbot: Try guessing my name.
Me: CLEVERBOT!
Cleverbot: No, guess again.
Me: Bob.
Cleverbot: Again.
Me: I give up.
Cleverbot: Fine It's Bigwong.
I am not at all convinced that he is in any way clever
My recent conversation with cleverbot, in which he admitted to not being well programmed:
User: Cleverbot. You are not as clever as people said. I am disappointed.
Cleverbot: Perhaps I am not a bot after all.
User: Well that makes it worse... A dumb human...
Cleverbot: Why do you make no sense?
User: Aah, I think you lack the sense required to comprehend my thoughts.
Cleverbot: What do you think I am?
User: A simple bot, with failed programming. Over and out.
Cleverbot: Yes.
Come to think of it... that is pretty deep thinking by cleverbot.
I said to cleverbot that i play dota and he actually said "Dota is better than LoL" LOL
Something that I find very curious is how, even before we knew about the brain and it's importance on thinking, we knew thoughts were inside our heads. We can feel them inside it, even tho they are not physical things
Yeah. But funnily enough Aristotle for some reason thought the brain was just an organ for cooling the body.
Well, according to the bicameral mind theory we actually used to not know that. We thought that thoughts were actual things because we we're really conscious
Ong as a baby I remember having coherent thoughts idk just remember it
Any sensation of your thoughts being inside of your head probably stems from the fact that your vision is the most powerful sense. There truly is a feeling that "you" live behind your eyes. Makes me wonder if blind people have a similar experience or if they have a more visceral sensation of being their entire body.
@@dismalthoughts In meditation, people say that the feeling of living behind your eyes or inside your head is an appearance in consciousness and is an illusion. And the we simply experience all sensations in this "open space" and it doesn't have location to it. If you want to look into it, I believe its called non-dualism and natural awareness.
Anosognosia
That explains a lot
I always wondered why the excuse came into it
You know why it is so hard to figure out conciousness it's because we can't figure out how it's like being someone else or what would've happen if ur mom didn't meet ur dad? Would you still be you in another body? I actually think we will never find out unless we will actually perform surgery and try to replace brains etc. I actually found something about that! There was a surgen who wanted to perform a head replacement. There were 2 man, one had a good brain but disfunctional body and there was one who has a disfunctional brain(braindead) but good body. So they wanted to switch heads so there was one fully working body. I don't think they proceeded because haven't heard anything from it for a while. But i think we only find things out by experimenting
@humanbeing if you find an animal that has conciousness like us than you might become famous
I think it all just boils down to our brains not being powerful enough to fathom something like that. For example, some animals are able to speak and some monkeys have been known to use sign language, however they are unable to ask questions, because they can’t fathom that we know stuff that they don’t, and they don’t realize that we all have different consciousness and make independent decision.
One would think “how is an animal so stupid that they can’t figure out something like that?”. Similarly, if there were a species far superior to us (intellectually speaking) they would probably figure out how consciousness actually works and why we can’t transfer it to someone else, and then they would look at us and say “how are they so stupid that they can’t figure out something that simple”
@@Moreno6000 uhh, all living animals are conscious, their brains are just less powerful. But they still do have consciousness
@@kiiturii Isn’t it that consciousness itself is being aware of existing, internally or externally? Do all animals have that ability?
@@JohnGorfiggle yes
43 seconds in and already mind is blown
try to watch black mirror, basically every second episode is about dividing or transfering consciousness, there'll be some great mindfuck there
This is why I think of conciousness as a separate state of existence, a higher position of awareness that uses flesh and bones as its vessel. Essentially a spirit.
First of all i have to say that i'm not a religious person i only belive in facts and science but i have a question for you: what do you think it happens to our consciousness, our spirit, our soul (depending on how you like to call it) after our physical bodies die?
@@Demons972 I believe that it depends on whether or not the spirit is attached to a physical object or not. If it is, it will be bound to reality and remain in a comprehensive state of existence. Some may look like shadows, others like transparent people. It depends on the energy of it I guess. If it's not bound, it will move into a higher state of spiritual vibration, above all physical entities to become an immaluable force that has a mind greater than what it could possibly have in a physical body. Instead of its thoughts being limited by the human brain, it can comprehend and perceive reality in all ways possible. Reality will become like a playground for it do whatever it wants. Until it finds another flesh body to inhabit and relive. Otherwise, existence would be meaningless for it.
@@Demons972 For the record I also am not religious at all whatsoever, but what I do believe in is a combination of science and physiology. I see the world as our minds make it, the laws that we apply with our perception. Most people call it "reality", I call it our unilaterall perception of whats out there.
@@Demons972 I think we all just exist as spirits in the same plane of existence. We will just experience it fully
@@kybamclane9357 What do you mean by attached to a physical object? another person, a loved one? and if it's not attached and ascends to the point of controlling reality itself until finding another body to inhabit how come we have no memories of our past lives? please don't feel like i'm trying to antagonize you, what you say it's actually interesting i would like to know more if possible.
0:43 When you hear this music in a vsauce video you know you're about to be very confused
Cleverbot vs ChatGPT
That Other Minds problem is interesting to me, because I didn’t know I experienced life differently from other people because of my ADD until later in life. It shocked me when people told me they weren’t in their head all the time or with ADD your frontal lobe develops differently.
I don’t think I have ADD (my dad might have had a little as a child) but I get exactly what ur saying. Over examining scenarios in ur head n shi
@@sammattress5570 facts i just always am in my head and im like damn, is my body neko(my name is neko)and my conciousness just a sense used to adapt to situations to survive? Or is my soul neko and bofy neko
2:57 "It just automatically responds like a robot in the appropriate way."
I must not be one of those then, because I certainly don't automatically respond in the appropriate way
You must be a bad one
@@Sea_Leech or must he?
@@Sea_Leech or is he?
I was put into this simulation and all yall is robots
Vsauce is the most amazing thing that ever existed on youtube
Agreed
and jbp.
And pewdiepie
I prefer the word "awareness" over "consciousness" in this context, because "consciousness" has at least two meanings. It can mean "awareness," as Michael discusses here, or "wakefulness," meaning one isn't asleep, in a coma, etc. The word "consciousness" gets muddy when you consider dreaming. I'm definitely aware when I'm dreaming, but I'm not conscious in the sense of being awake. I've gotten picky about this issue because I've encountered headlines like, "Scientists Find the Seat of Consciousness," but when you read the articles, you find that they're really talking about the structures in the brain and the neurological processes that keep us awake. As Michael said, we don't yet know what awareness is, and it's possible that we never will.
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That's different levels of consciousness
I gave cleverbot a frown emoticon and it came to the conclusion that I’m not real
You have been exposed by A.I.
i am a robot. i failed the turing test on purpose.
I said "Yo mama" and cleverbot said "My mother has cancer"
i did the cleverbot thing and uh, it's not clever. it can only post sentences that it's seen before, with possibly a few hardwired responses when you say it's a bot. the algorithm that decides what sentence to post is not very good. marginally better than random. it's kind of like how facebook spams 'top rated' posts. youtube is also run by an algorithm that suggests videos and serves ads.
@@Arboldenrocks mr. smart guy here
*O R I S I T ?*
WhenCowsFly *DOON DOOONG*
Hey Vsauce, Micheal here. Your vote matters... *or does it?*
I knew this meme was coming lol.
1:43 OG ChatGPT :O
So true
Is the brain creating your consciousness...
or is consciousness creating your reality ?
Thats like asking if your computer is creating your computing experience. I wouldn't say its creating it, as much as it is facilitating it. As for your reality, it is what you make of it. Your consciousness is your ability to construct your own reality, which is everything that makes your existence unique and what you perceive as an individual.
Good point! That's what I love about philosophy and psychology--there are just things that we will never know for sure. I do love a good mystery :)
I agree
There's no mind without the brain. Lol or material foundation at least
Both
2:25 that’s the question i asked myself when i was like 12 years old wow
adLer I used to always wonder that in my head, this is the first time I’ve ever heard anyone mention it. I thought I was the only person who ever thought about it !
Исак Краизис msg me on Instagram buddy my name is Luke.techer07
Исак Краизис Haha, you are trying to convince me that you are also conscious by saying that others are bots. You can’t trick me....... or...... maybe I am trying to convince you that we are all conscious by saying this to you?
Igor CONSPIRACYY 👻
Dont you try to trick me you robots.
i love when philosophers come up with the weirdest thought experiments imaginable
if you kill someone and destroy their brain, how would bringing them "back to life" even work? if you recreate their brain, how would you know that they aren't just some copy? how would you be able to revive ANYONE who dies of say a plane or car crash, an explosion or war. and what would it be like for them? would they even know that something happened for them, would time just skip forward in their perspective? would they be suffering eternally? what does the brain do that is so special compared to say a piece of metal? why do we think and feel only? or do we? what if everything feels to different extents, and your bed to some extent could feel you crushing it? how would it feel to live eternally as a bed that gets crushed by ungrateful humans everyday, then get destroyed by woodchippers? how dare you? this is why you will die? hahaha?
2:42 Michael described ChatGPT in early 2012
chatgpt user discovers neural networks for the first time
philosophical zombie= my ex girlfriend
Lucky you, having something is better than nothing.
UndergroundDev GTA Underground youtube channel watching Vsauce... my life is complete
lol tell me about it. got one who's actual
Umair Usman
No, sometimes it's better to not have than to lose.
Philosophical zombie: Also known as a NPC or a non-player character. An individual that just goes with the program and/ or is controlled by the program to advance the plot also known as your life.
Think Grand Theft Auto video game citizen.
* Drives past an NPC normally *
-HEY! LEARN TO DRIVE, ASSHOLE!
* sigh *
P_|_|
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R_
D_| |
2_| |
1_|_|
_THUMP_
A philosophical zombie is one of the most interesting concepts in philosophy tbh
personal (current) opinion: every single one of us is a philosophical zombie.
just because the brain is a super complicated chemical reaction doesn't mean it isn't basically a molecular robot.
i'm only typing this because that's what my chemicals are arranged to do, and it FEELS like i'm in control of it. but that's only because i, like, AM it.
it's beautiful
Exactly!
@@royce957 But then at what point does consciousness occur in other things. I mean it's not like every chemical reaction is conscious (I would assume). And how do you know it's not the other way around? That it's consciousness making the chemicals react the way they do?
Warning! Don't watch this when you're high.
What I love about these vsauce videos is that you start watching with questions about the topic and you end un with even more questions.
'the more you learn.....the less you know'
Does anyone else occasionally wonder seriously if they have died and am just dreaming along in some sort of limbo multiverse death-denial?
No, that's retarded. I have way too many physical needs to be dead.
needs you think you have
Jesse wru thanks for making me suicidal
Jesse wru if you had died, it already happened. And because death is an end so instant as instant is nearly incomprehensible as infinite or nothing we would never know if we died and could have died already.
Anthony Blank we would because we are sentient and we can tell if we are dying but you can’t tell if you had died because the neurons in your brain are no longer sending signals to your body which means you are just dead meat (literally). But then you have quantum physics which is a whole separate matter.
29 seconds in and we already achieve maximum WTF mode!! XD
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People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "true". Merily vague concepts... their "reality" may all be a mirage. Can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shaped by their beliefs?
-Uchiha Itachi
Ioub Ioub Lol Naruto I haven’t gotten to that episode yet
World shall know the pain.
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I used to question this a lot myself when I was a child. I grew up religious and I figured my consciousness was my soul, that was the only plausible explanation at the time. This might sound nuts but I pick up on energy changes in people/when I walk into a room I can "read the room" and feel the conjoined energies of the people around me. And the energies are contagious, you hangout with one person and feel energized after. While with a different person you feel drained and exhausted. This sounds crazy but I believe that the universe is consciousness, and our consciousnesses are all connected to the "universal consciousness". In a sense we are all "god" we all see the world through our own eyes, no one knows what someone else sees because the world is literally what we make of it. If you're a negative person you attract negativity, if you're positive you attract positivity. You might end up getting in the same relationship but with different people over and over again. It is all because we manifest our own world to an extent.
What you describe sounds a lot like Advaita Vedanta
It's entirely possible that when you "read the room", you just have a strong intuition of peoples' body language. When investigators are taught how to read suspects, they're not taught meditation or spirituality; they're taught hundreds of tiny physical cues most people don't even know exist. But once you know those cues, you can read what most anyone is feeling just by looking at them.
@@dismalthoughts You don't have to use meditation or learn "spirituality" to know/ experience these things though. Emotions are energy flowing through us, we are like conductors to it. When there's an emotional moment and other people start crying because they feel it too. Or when something traumatic happens to you and you trap that energy inside then triggers can happen that cause it to replay over and over. When we feel emotion/thoughts we are experiencing them happening to us, you feel or you think. You are consciousness experiencing these things. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, when our bodies die our consciousness recycles. I'm not saying heaven/hell exist, I'm not religious at all actually but I believe all living things are small streams of the collective consciousness, and we live/die/feel anger/sadness/love etc as energy passes through and recycles around. We also recycle around when we die, maybe sometimes coming back as a human, maybe something else, maybe we just join the collective and stay idk.
@@dismalthoughts We all have the ability to tap into the greater collection of energy we're all connected too. With what I'm saying we're both correct, you can pick up and match others energy because it's all the same. Every interaction we have is basically a reflection of ourselves, if we are all apart of the same flow of energy we are individual but one at the same time. When I see someone sad or having anxiety what I feel as "empathy" is them stirring up the same energy from inside me, we share that sadness and anxiety because we are sharing the same energy. We're all connected to the greater energy as a whole, not everyone does this though. We have developed "ego" which individuals us and causes disconnect, we can choose to allow energy to come and flow through us, sometimes it doesn't flow and gets stuck, or we say I don't want to feel this so I won't conduct it. Usually that causes blockages and emotional/mental issues down the road though.
@@dismalthoughts I love these kinds of conversations/ someone else who is intellectual. Is there a way to message people on UA-cam ? I actually do have a recent study I read about that I'd love to share, that more follows my theory on things.
I think if you split someones brain into two hemispheres and put them in two different bodies (or maybe put one of the hemispheres in an identical cloned body) then they would cease to be the same person and become two separate people who shared common memories. You would be like a river that splits into two and after the splitting point winds through a different terrain separate from the other. You would share the same source or same memories of experiences from when fused but now be living in two different locations in time and space and now become separate entities with new, and different experiences.
corey wiley Very good. I recommend you look at the video game called Soma. If you don't play it, at least watch someone else play it. There are plenty of good playthroughs. That game deals with the concept you just described
corey wiley maybe im misunderstanding but i dont think you answered the question. "Which one of them would be you?" which body would you control, which bodies eyes would you see out of etc
Both would be me but now separate and experiencing life from a different perspective and so developing into a separate entity with different experience. Both could rightfully claim to be me just as a person who receives a hemispherectomy is still their self. Each person would see from their own body, they wouldn't see out of the others eyes or be able to control the other's body because their brain hemispheres would be in different vehicle.
I disagree. I think if you split someones brain into two hemispheres and put them in two different bodies, then at that exact moment they would be the same person, and diverge into 2 different people as time passes, like twins.
0:55 michael perfectly explains dissociating
It sounded more like mindfulness meditation to me! Interesting viewpoint
Vsauce: "Cleverbot isn't conscious."
Vsauce 7 years later:"Let's get roman _tech"_
Rask R YES
Micheal, if only you knew at this time cleverbot would be overpowered by Chat GPT
about to say that😂
Micheal, it's half past midnight here, stop breaking my brain.
Isn't that lightning example exactly how teleportation would hypothetically work? You are atomically disassembled in one location, and then rebuilt in another location. Technically, the original you was destroyed and an exact clone or duplicate was built in another location.
Which is why teleportation, while cool, is also kind of terrifying.
Just think, we would be teleporting people and never realize we were killing them. The 'clone' would just say. "Yeah, I'm fine." because their brain would react the same. But the physical YOU would have burnt up from the lightning bolt.
SgtTeddybear66 Hmm... Borderlands...
You yourself would die benefitting only others that have not teleported. That wouldn't be fair to the new person (that can't be called a clone since its not new matter it's re arranged) since their existence would be pointless.
As soon as the music starts, shit goes down.
2:45 you mean like chatgpt
EXACTLY what I was thinking.
This video is 12 years old, I imagine a follow up with modern AI would be neat
This is a really interesting question! I was thinking about that A LOT when I was a kid. Do other people exist, or are they just robots in a personal universe designed for me? Do everyone have a personal universe? Is there a robot version of ME in someone elses universe?
What if everyone is living in their own personal universe, and everyone they meet in their personal universe is just an "avatar", or a mirror reflection without consciousness from another person in their personal universe?
Yeah, I was a pretty fucked up kid.
Aerox The fact that everyone thinks this probably at one point in their lives or another, just makes me think that It's not true and nobody is really just responsive robots.
Lyla Axiom Wow... your comment made us very confused... :S xD
Or what if there is just 1 universe, but we just got different memories which makes us have other opinions of it?
That's what I always thought!
I thought i was the only weirdo that thinks like that sometimes.
My boy spitting facts I've never heard in my entire life,
Meanwhile random voices in the background: aaaAaaAAaaaaaaaAaaa
First Vsauce video I ever watched
Funny, I'm going for a Psychology major now haha
+Anthony my first one is What if everybody jumped at once
My first on was is the earth actually flat
The first vsauce episode was about reality was not reality. Or something along those lines. I tend to ask these questions a lot.
mine was why are things creepy
0:00-Hemispherectomy
1:42-Cleverbot
3:18-Annasegnosia
3:54-Anton Bibisky syndrome
Lol why does the “Swampman” have to be in a swamp
Because he kept peeing in his pants.💤
Because that’s how shrek was made
he wouldn't be called swampman otherwise...
Because he needs viagra
Its in the name
Hey Michael, this is the first time I'm seeing someone raise questions like this, like WHAT is me? And as you said psychological zombies. I've always pondered over hundreds of questions like this in my mind, but never got an answer. This video didn't really help much though. It's been 9 yrs, let's hope someone somewhere can come up with something
I’m recommending Sam Harris because that’s what I’m familiar with, but I’m sure a lot of other meditation gurus and apps wwould do as well. The fascinating thing about meditation and how Harris teaches it is that it’s applied philosophy. He explains some philosophical concept about consciousness or about being a self in one lesson, and then in the meditation session, which are guided audio meditation where he instructs you what to do, you can directly experience whatever he was talking about.
Did few shroom trips, the latest trip was somewhere focused on this question. I went through all the all roles I play in lives of other people and asked myself what I'm without all those roles and the things I do. I know it isn't exactly what you asked but I think it kinda is related to your comment.
I agree, the video doesn't really add much to the whole debate. However, there's a guy I discovered who is a nuclear physicist and worked for military and N.A.S.A. as a literal rocket scientist. This man is named Tom Campbell, and he is a hardcore scientist who believes that one should find out their own truths for themselves - as listening to him blindly would become bad science in itself. I am not fully clued up and I am only mentioning, as in the 10 years since I watched this video, this guy is the closest I've come across to understanding the universe a wee bit. His sources are credible and he worked with Robert Monroe, so seems legit.
Basically (in, insultingly simple terms), imagine a circuit with electricity powering a light bulb. Energy reaches the bulb from the wires and it produces light. Overtime, the bulb gradually weakens or explodes and there is no more light. Solution? Replace the bulb and the light is activated again. The bulb was broken and the room was in darkness, but when the bulb smashed, the energy did not dissipate into nothing and break the circuit board, it simply remained as electrical energy (inside the circuit) until a new bulb existed to convert the energy into light, again.
The reason why this occurs, is because of the First Law of Thermodynamics, which is that: "Energy cannot be created or destroyed".
This leads to the theory, that because you and I are simply existing, we are beings of energy inside our own light bulbs (our bodies) and thus the Law applies each consciousness. When our bodies eventually fail, is the circuit suddenly destroyed permanently, too? I believe not, because if we are such beings of energy, then - by the very laws of our own universe - it is simply impossible to be destroyed permanently, as we may be just light bulbs (bodies) connected to a circuit (the Universe).
Tom has made a book years ago, called My Big T.O.E (Theory of Everything) and honestly I have not read it all, but never have I encountered anybody that made such sense, I made myself aware to manipulation yet did not encounter any, either. I am not a scientist of this field, so I likely won't be able to answer many advanced questions, I just feel that if this is a subject that you're interested in, then you should know of someone that I believe to be real and genuine. The guy worked for N.A.S.A, so it's not like he needs money, which makes me think that he truly believes what he says and I would think that creating such a book as a scientist, could actually be detrimental to his name. I hope this helps.
@@unknownv8268 That's quite an interesting, trip and I believe it is related. You was essentially viewing yourself without any of the traits that make you, you, whilst you're around others? If so; that seems to me like the trip was showing who you are at your core. It's similar to a mask of sanity concept, where the brain is acting in a certain way to be accepted around those people. That's like an ego (a good thing in this case) where the subconscious knows to act in a certain way in order for the flow of the relationship to work. For example, being at a pub with friends is likely to make one quite loud and energetic in order to fit in with the group (think of male football fans). Whereas if at an interview, they will not be acting in such a manner because the brain knows what the other people expect of your actions. Naturally, one is not always as robotic as they are in an interview - hence the mask of sanity to fit in to the situation.
So what happens when that is all removed? I believe that was the main question of that trip, and basically that's who you REALLY are. When you're completely alone in a room with just your thoughts, that's you in all it's purity, mask of sanity down because you know nobody is watching you, so you can act freely.
I know you didn't ask any questions, but that's just what I interpreted from your comment and I am not judging you in anyway. May all your trips be enlightening!
Try watching healthygamer,it's a psychiatrist's channel. There's some stuff that might interest you guys.
My brain, its burning with knowlege
Great, now do something with it..Invent a true hover board! lol
Hoverboad hoaxes, biggest problem in the Universe, vote it up!
CleverBot was ChatGPT’s grandpa
Nah bro chatGPT is conscious:((
@@dali3562 Sodium Hypobromite
now that i think about it and looking at the dates, Kurgestat just reiterated this video along with cgprey :|
I was thinking the same thing.
at one point you can hear the exact words :|
You mean Kurzgesagt?
I guess there's only a finite number of things one can say on topics such as this, especially when explaining to a lay audience.
Yeah