I think that the ability to have your thoughts be machine-readable will be a skill like any other, like writing or speaking. as neither writing or speaking are particularly clear indications of what one is thinking either
@@thecianinator I'd imagine in the future those without that skill are going to be seen as unintelegent, which has some pretty concerning social implications
I'm one of the ones with aphantasia who can't picture things in their head, but can hear and manipulate sound very well. I didn't even realise it until I was about 20 or 21. I always though "Picture this" was a metaphor.
Same, and I feel like if I didn't have it I would be so much better at art, at the same time it could very well be a blessing though oh god getting anxiety and actually SEEING the demons in your minds NAH that's too much for me
That must be rough, as an artist who has a 1 to 1 imagination, I often imagine images and draw them from memory without any issue. It’s very interesting to think of how someone like you would think. I use imagery for absolutely everything, even sound and other senses.
@@jckart I can’t imagine anything, except horses, horses I can see as blobs in my head. I also always thought “imagine this” was a metaphor haha. Didn’t know this wasn’t normal lol
I have aphantasia, yet I dream in full color. My whole life when I’d hear people say “imagine your relaxing on a beach” or count sheep jumping a fence”, I didn’t know they could actually “watch the movie” in their head. One advantage of having aphantasia is when I lay down to go to sleep, I see perfect pitch black and have no visual distractions. I loved your imagine truth and justice examples, I will use those to explain to people what I see in the future. If I lay still and try really hard, I can sometimes visualize simple objects for a fleeting moment. The best what I can describe it is like when you close your eyes after someone shines a flash light in your eyes and that bright image fades away quickly.
Ahh the complexity of only being able to experience your own experience. I cant imagine having aphantasia and sleeping with absolutely nothing (when i sleep i can see myself on a rock in the middle of an ocean reflecting the stars above and that puts me to sleep)
>"One advantage of having aphantasia is when I lay down to go to sleep, I see perfect pitch black and have no visual distractions." As someone who does have visualization, however limited - in my case there's no image "on the eyelids". It's only as distracting as inner monologue (if you have it voiced in your head) and can be subdued either by focusing on something else or letting it flow without giving any actual consideration. As for how it feels - somewhat similar to mental math in terms of keeping track of details and the brainspace it's happening in.
It's crazy because I see nothing no matter how hard I imagine too and have such vivid dreams that I can't tell them from reality. Then once completely awake immediately lose that sense of dreaminess if you can call it that
@@laimawolf6826 I literally drove my wife crazy asking her questions when I realized that some people can close their eyes “see things”. My experience is very similar to yours full vivid color dreams. But, while awake, I struggle to even have even random foggy simple shapes appear. The best I could do is almost like looking at the clouds on an overcast day and trying to create some type of arrangement or shapes out of the chaos.
lol i like how he's slowly but surely showing more of his face. it started with the hourglass mask, then sunglasses and a face mask, and now just the sunglasses. dope
@Smeebslol he used a mask of his logo in some of his older videos (I'm sorry I don't remember the names, but it's a bit before* he slowed down with the deviantart series)
@Smeebslol it was in one of his liminal space videos, when he was looking out of the car he was in and said something along the lines of "get in losers were gonna find some liminal spaces"
the best way i can describe how my mind works with aphantasia is: imagine you have a computer where you can research any info you want, including images and videos but the screen is painted black, u can't actually SEE anything but somehow you still have access to all the info that the computer gives you, you are still able to understand perfectly any image that is showed in the computer, u just dont literally see anything :')
Yes, exactly. I "know" what my home looks like if I imagine it, I just can't "see" it as an image on a screen. It's like I have access to the information contained in the image, but no the image itself. I can see things in my dreams though, even in vivid colors and details on rare occasions. I think it comes down to whether we are able to willfully simulate visual stimuli in our heads. It's probably similar to how some people don't have an inner voice. They probably "know" their thoughts the way that we "know" what an imagined object looks like, they just can't simulate the sound in their heads. I assume that people without aphantasia only "see" imagined objects if they close their eyes, so if they want to know what aphantasia is like, then they could try to imagine an apple while their eyes are still open. If my assumption is correct, then they won't actually see the apple when doing this, but they will still somehow have access to information about how it looks. For me it's like that even when my eyes are closed.
@@x-r-sas someone without aphantasia I honestly don’t know how to describe what it’s like. You can imagine with your eyes open replaying images in your mind. It doesn’t physically manifest in your vision. Kinda like how you can hear your inner voice but you’re not actually hearing it
I‘m like really confused. When I concentrate about seeing an apple, I see absolutely nothing. Not even the slightest bit of color. Yet, when I want to sleep I can make up stories in my head, design chatakters, make backgrounds, everything.
There's a thing called hypnagogic hallucinations, it happens on the transition to sleep, it seems that the mekanism responsible for the imagination in such condition, is similar to the one in a dream, which could explain your case.
YEESSS me too! When i'm not really concentrating my imagination gets so vivid i can actually forget about my surroundings, but i can't force myself to imagine something when someone asks me to if my life depends on it
I imagine the best use of this technology will be for clients seeking out an art commission from someone. For people who can't draw or don't know the terminology about what they want to be done, having a crude "imagined" sketch will help artists greatly. I can't tell you the number of times someone has asked me to draw a "caricature" of someone when they want a simple cartoon. Never going to forget the time someone asked me for a silhouette and I gave them sketch after sketch until they finally sent me an image of what they wanted and, they wanted a line drawing.
Yeah, I'd imagine that this type of technology should be used in laws, because there's too many people who get away with the things they have committed. Because of how rich they are, among other things, so if there is obvious evidence they've committed the crime and through the thoughts. So, here should be no reason that they won't go to jail. Also it can used for other things in the art field, and can possibly be used to tackle trama and other mental issues people face on daily basis. To add on, jmagine this you hook up someone to a world where they are in a world where they are happy. This person is a suspect for many things, but there is no evidence. They imagine stuff they want to believe.. But there's a problem. The things that make them happy are inhumane, and communicates the acts they have done in real life. So they've solved the problem and out this person in jail for good. It may can be used on animals too, to see there intelligence. And how certain animal's compare each other intelligence. But, obviously if it doesn't hurt them then yes you can test them. There's so many opportunities for this type of intelligence, and being able to solve the problems that this type of intelligence might not be able to use it on. But I think this type of technology should be limited to normal people, for numerous reasons.
My friend has aphantasia, I forget a lot and ask things like, “how do you think this hair would look on me?” I feel really bad when I forget and he tells me for the billionth time that he can’t picture things.
That's something I absolutely can't do as well. But I'm not sure if I have this condition. In fact my mind can't create absolutely nothing new. Just what I already have seen. Maybe that's why I am passionate about cinema, movies and pictures. But I absolutely can't create anything myself
@@CoffeeTheDragon damn dude I accidentally pressed one key I shouldn't have while typing this out on my keyboard and missed it while reading over it, chill
You know what's even more terrifying, that happened once to a blind dude who was given sight through an eye transplant. He gained sight for the first time ever as an adult, but it turns out you actually have to learn to use your sight from infancy all the way to maturity. He was unable to recognize humans, he didn't have any depth perception, and whatever he was seeing, he apparently didn't like it because he killed himself not long after.
i don't have aphantasia, but your description of how you visualize is much more vivid than i experience. i can call to mind vague images of things, fluctuating outlines, splotches of color, the general vibe of depth of a form, but i can only really maintain one such detail at a time. but i'm really good at math, which feels to me like a surprisingly visual discipline; whether that's mentally performing algebra on visualized math symbols, or coming up with and manipulating visuals of systems which exhibit a particular relation in one or more of their properties, etc.. it'd be interesting to see how my mental models/methods compare to those of near-aphantasic artists.
Your description is the closest to my own experience of any of the other comments. I happen to suck at math, especially when I have to do it in my head.
I'm a maladaptive daydreamer with aphantasia. It's very frustrating spending hours everyday daydreaming, but not being able to see my daydreams. I have to write it like a book, and think about scenes in concepts rather than pictures. It's so crazy to me that most people can actually see things in their mind.
Same 🖐️ But I started writing down my dreams as soon as I wake up because my dreams are really awesome and imaginative. By doing that, I started seeing dreams more often and I love that.
It's so surprising to me you're bothered by this, because I have aphantasia and I've never had a daydream in my life. I thought active visualisation was required for daydreaming
Do you guys ever try to imagine a song in your head but sometimes your mind just goes crazy and you keep reversing the song at a specific point like half a second back and keep doing it and it's hard to control?
i often get earworms of the most prominent part of a song and sometimes because of the music i occasionally dive into, the most prominent part is also the most annoying part take "build our machine" i havent heard in in a while so i might be off- but i remember hearing about 5 seconds of it with many many layers of conflicting music (its a song about a horror game so yeah) sometimes itd be 3 seconds or longer but it kept repeating and id hear every single layer clearly along with lyrics and background *and it was infuriating* i tend to blame my ADHD but idk if its actually abnormal or not
Sometimes I get a feeling like the ‘voice in my head’ or if I have a song stuck in my head or whatever is just randomly really loud. And I get kinda on edge because of that.
sometime I imagine people or things falling apart. Once I was trying to recall an episode of backyardigans and I kept imagining their heads just melting off, even if I tried not to. Idk if this counts s an intrusive thought or not but it's really annoying when that happens.
@@SM-qv2om definitely an intrusive thought. Lockdown etc has made the most irritating things come back, intrusively seeing and sensing whatever I'm eating/drinking to be rotten or full of bugs! Have had similar to you in the past, im 27 and over thr years been diagnosed with ocd, adhd and tourettes
Waked up after a Lucid nightmare once, and I literally got so frightened, I couldn't recognize my sister by her face. It just felt like, I was alone everywhere. UNTIL I REMEMBERED I HAD HOMEWORK.
As a kid, I remember I used to "break" my mind's eye. I'd imagine something so vivid and then go into more and more detail until I just went blank and wasn't able to imagine anything for the next hour or so
I will never understand the concept of "seeing" things purely by imagining. The closest I can get is dreaming but that still seems like a long way from consciously deciding to picture an image in front of you whilst being disconnected from it
EXACTLY! WHEN I IMAGINE SOMETHING I SEE THE REAL WORLD PERFECTLY BUT AT THE SAME TIME I CAN SEE WHAT I AM IMAGINING, IT'S INSANELY COMPLEX AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE DOUBLE VISION EXCEPT ONE CAN BE MODIFIED AND ONE IS WHAT YOU SEE.
@@BobectorGamesBobector It's like when you hear your own voice inside your head or get a song stuck in your head. It's audible but it's not as clear as hearing it in real life and you wouldn't mistake it for a song playing on your computer.
@@orang1921yes people can. I can imagine an apple and not only see every curve and detail of it but it's in color as well. When I stare off and go into my imagination I can watch entire scenes unfold in my head just like in a dream. The people who cannot do this have a condition known as aphantasia my wife suffers from this so we take lots of pics so she can look back on our lives
literally i could not imagine living without being able to visually imagine things, i always find it such a great escape for myself to just daydream and picture myself in made up scenes in some other world while it lines up to the lyrics and beat of one of my favourite songs
i could never picture things but i can still imagine them!! it’s just mostly dialogue of me thing “this is here that is there” and “i’m doing this” and since i have always been like this i can’t imagine it being any different
I do that a lot as well but since I can’t really imagine pictures very well in my head it ends up more as just amorphous blobs of concepts, which works just as well for me since that’s the only way it’s ever been and I quite enjoy the stories and the atmospheres I come up with
As someone who is face blind, you grasp to what identifiers you can. Bad teath, strange nose, glasses. Anything to do with shape is a definite boon to identification.
Dude have you seen children? Once you’re like around 16-20 assuming you have a normal growth spurt you can’t even differentiate children from a dog in kids clothes.Children are basically like fire hydrants or garbage cans with black tops
5:23 Hit me like a brick wall. I've thought for a while that I have aphantasia but because I'm artistic (designing crochet) I didn't think I could have it. But I'm on the verge of tears because there are actually people that struggle with visualizing things in my mind and still can make things. I have to have several reference photos and videos to make things freehand, but I can make them pretty accurately. And even thinking of the designs I make, they're very minimalist with 1-2 extremely distinct features letting you know what it is (wings and nose of a bat, nose and tail of a fox, gills and tail of an axolotl). I guess it's easy for me to do that because I don't really "see" those things in my mind, but more see the "concept" of what those things would look like. Idk, probably need to finally tell my therapist or doctor about this. Just had to share my self revelation.
I think it's because the images are actually ALWAYS blurry, but since we know what we're trying to imagine, we don't realize how blurry they are. Because regardless of how blurry it is, we know WHAT it is. But when we try to imagine details, something that depends upon actual good visuals, we realize that it is all blurry when we suddenly can't properly visualize these small details at all.
@@catpoke9557 Actually I think I've seen a video in which they talked about different levels of being able to imagine things, so some people have a more blurry imagination than others. For example I don't have the problem of blurriness when thinking of details.
Man mine's a little confusing, sometimes i can see a whole picture, mostly stuff I have seen already. Other times, I think when imagining a scene, I can't really focus on all of it at once and for details i have to isolate whatever it is and zoom in. I suppose my mind's eye is a little blurry.. that, or I can't properly visualize on command lol
Many eons pass, we have finally achieved commercially available mental projection. However, people are disappointed to see their minds only produce images of the ounceler over and over again.
My father discovered that he has Aphantasia like 6 months ago when he was 41, and as we tried to explain what "normal" people can see and do with their mind he was absolutely mind-blown
@@lloyddragon2036 for what it's worth, it is also very hard for "normal" people to comprehend what it must be like not being able to visualize anything in your mind. I just recently found out that most of my friends think with a voice in their head and as they were describing those voices I came to realize that I hardly ever think with a voice in my head. Words and thoughts pop in but I, for the life of me, can't hear a voice. This was as weird to them as it was for me, as I had thought that the "voice in your head" was just thoughts that pop in that you FEEL the meaning of, not one that you can mentally assign a voice to.
@@travisumbel6877 Out of curiosity, do you hear words when you read them? I'm not sure if I can actually read a word without pronouncing it in my mind, but now I'm trying I certainly can't. If I've seen it enough times I might just be able to recognise it as a pattern (e.g. a number plate) and know what it represents without further thought but I couldn't do that with most things I actually try to read without at least hearing them in my mind.
@@cameroni6785 Same. I cannot read without always hearing that voice in my head reading what I read. xDD Its just not possible, I cant. xD What I can do is to think without that voice, but even though I can it is a lot easier with the voice.
I can only imagine an image so long as I’ve seen that *exact* object “Imagine an apple” *imagines apple slices on paper towel* “Now rotate the apple” “What?”
I can imagine moving objects well as long as it happens instinctively(when I'm doing a storyline in my head) but "Imagine a ball casting a shadow" uh huh how does shadow look like again, I tried and it's just a 2D print of the video's apple. I can rotate it but only in 6 frames per second.
I was in Art Class at school when I realised I had aphantasia. Of course the teacher said "Picture an apple, what colour is it? Is it perfectly round? Is it all one colour? Is it a uniform shape?" So everyone's drawing their apples and I'm thinking "oh so I just draw a generic apple" and the teacher said to me "no, picture it in your mind" and I just blinked at her and said "But I can't, no-one can" she thought I was lying 🤷🏾♀️👏🏾😂
@@Omna420 Try hyperosmia, it's where you have a heightened sense of smell. I've got it but it honestly sucks so candles and perfume kill me 😂 (not literally)
@@TurtlesAndTortoises302 We haven't, we're just physically limited by our eyes. There's more shades of colors, millions of them, that we can't see because it's the maximum we can see
As someone with Aphantasia myself, on the scale of 'nearly nothing' in mental imagery, I can say it's a little complicated and depends on how the person is centered. I am centered around the 'feel' of a place, person, or thing. Not actual touch, but an impression of it. A person can have a warm 'feeling' about them, and your home can 'feel' safe. I go largely off of that, myself. I'm sure other people go based off of other things.
Yes! A lot of my imagining or remembering is “emotional” or “vibe” based… it’s like I get a sort of emotionally coded info dump that places me in the mental landscape and then it just “is”. Very abstract / hard to explain.
Yeah like, if I work in the front of the restaurant, I have the front-of-the-restaurant feeling. But if I work in the back, I get a totally different feeling. It's like, you know it's the same building, but in memory it feels spatially different. ...Did that make sense???
So basically, you constantly vibe check. It's hard for me to imagine how you experience, though I have my own experience with feeling but it is without a doubt way different than yours.
Sounds like something that would be very illegal. Personally I'd just intentionally think of something absolutely gruesome with the words "Mind your own business" in the center
I don't think the video concept is really too out there or something only "his best fans" would watch. This is just the style of videos he has moved to making. He doesn't do art criticism anymore, he does Vsauce-esque pop-science essays.
This reminds me of the mental pains of drawing illusion artwork. If you stare at the possibilities too long, you'll end up thinking simple things like tree stumps are leprechauns or abstract business signs are people standing next to the building (when stared at from a distance). Luckily for the non-artists, you can view these pieces in a few seconds or trip out on them longer to see into our imaginations, without being stuck with visual inconsistencies of an illness.
@@randomdude5070 I once had a dream where I was essentially playing a VR shooter in dream form I also had a dream where I was shot and survived to shoot the guy back
I'm actually so glad to see this shift in content. I know that this happened over a longer amount of time but the stuff you talk about now it's so much more interesting!!
I agree. :) I'm glad to have seen his growth as a content creator from some jerk who made fun of kid's drawings, to someone who is actually asking some really interesting questions and giving fascinating insight. I'm learning so much from his channel now, things I don't think I've seen anyone talk about, and for that, I'm here to stay. ^^
Those clip reconstructions are actually incredibly similar to what my imagination looks like. I've always described as being vague, blurry impressions mixed with a sort of inner dialogue of knowledge that "fills in" the missing finer details. I know they're there, i just can't picture them. The image is also faded and colors are muted, but not completely colorless. What I'm imagining usually exists in an empty void unless I'm deliberately conjuring an environment. Strong moods can influence that void to become a generic background, or a specific place I'm familiar with. But its still quite blurred and morphs and shifts slightly. If i focus really hard sometimes I can get the image to get sharper or more detailed but it fades in and out, i can't control it well, and sometimes it doesn't work at all
I have 100% aphantasia but only realized it a year ago so when people used to tell me to "imagine you're on a beach" to relax I'd think of the properties of a beach (sand, water, umbrella and beachball) then try to think of a canvas and put them on it. I'd have a yellow strip for the bottom half and a blue strip for the top then add in my beachball and umbrella without ever seeing them so it'd just kind of be in my mind for a bit while actually SEEING just pour black. kinda makes me sad lol
@@AgentDearestZso like when I close my eyes it’s just black. If I just lay there and think about it being black I have some whitish spots that move around. When I “imagine” things, I don’t see any images in the blackness, but I can like “walk” through my house, go down the street, basically visit places I’ve been. I can also think of unique scenarios and imagine myself having powers or being a different person. All of this is while I see black. Is that aphantasia? When Solar Sands talked about the Apple, I don’t see images like they a legit picture, but I can imagine an Apple in my hand moving it around, still completely pitch black. Sorry it’s so long. Thank you if you answer.
@@Pole2137 After talking with some friends about it, I don't think I do have it. I just misunderstood what the "images" referred to. It's super hard to describe, but if you can think of similar things to what I mentioned, then you probably don't have Aphantasia either. That being said, I'm not a doctor and I cannot diagnose either of us. There are tests online that you can google to help clarify what a mind's eye "image" looks like.
@@MysteriousLoppan for some people it's comforting to wear sunglasses while filming themselves. you don't have to think about looking into the camera at the right moments etc. The other thing is the stigma about wearing glasses indoors. you might have heard "only blind people and assholes wear sunglasses indoors" but in my personal opinion - i'm not the style police and even tho it's not my taste, if you want to wear sunglasses inside, go for it.
@@MysteriousLoppan personally, as someone who has migraines, sometimes it really helps to wear sunglasses inside lol. Though who knows why solar sands is wearin em, it might also be for anonymity
I have aphantasia and only discovered recently. I’d never heard of it before and it made so much sense. My dreams are more about feelings than pictures, my thoughts are not easily put into words. I’ve learned to describe it as being aware of concepts.
I respect how you did the face reveal. No 10-minute long video about your face, no dramatic reveal, none of that over the top spammy nonsense. Just popped on camera and didn't even acknowledge it.
Since I was young, I've imagined stories in my head (like an imagination-television). I can picture some scenes quite well, but sometimes faces are just a blurry mess. It seems like the more I try, the less I am able to see. I get so frustrated when I can't zoom in on details.
yes i have the exact same problem! and it gets so annoying when i have to replay the same scene in my head 10x because I can only "see" some,not all, of the things i'm trying to imagine...
I can't remember the actual quote, but it went something like this: "Your first thought is what you were conditioned to think. Your second defines who you are."
When I was younger my imagination was so vivid that sometimes in the dark I would see faint hallucinations of things. I’ve also always been able to picture images in my mind but it feels like the image just isn’t there, like it’s behind my physical eyes. I have no idea on the quality of the images though, but usually I only focus on one aspect. Like if I think of my house I just see my house but I have the knowledge of everything else that’s there. I don’t see anything else until I think about it though. What I mean by this is that if I think of my house I just have a general image of what it roughly looks like. When I think about the roof, I can see the exact shade and material. When I think of the garden I can visualise the plants there. Kind of like a microscope. Looking at an image is like looking at something out of focus, but I can focus on particular parts of the one image to make them clearer. On another note, I can imagine music extremely vividly. It’s just like listening to the actual thing. While my memory of lyrics might not be 100% accurate, I can imagine the beat and instruments very vividly. I can basically listen to music whenever I want. Maybe my visual imagination is below or around average but my auditory imagination is very high. One more thing, with the apple test, I can very easily imagine the apple in those circumstances. I can imagine what it’s like after taking a bite, I can imagine it in a table and casting a shadow. I can grab it and move it around but the animation quality of my mind feels like I took a video at 3 fps and got a computer to generate the frames in between to get it to 60fps. I only vividly imagine the starting image and the end image, but I can faintly see the process or animation. It’s a lot easier to visualise things I’ve seen, imagining something new usually results in a less vivid image. I can remember some of my dreams though. Not all of them, but if something stood out to me I can remember it, but I’m usually reminded of it through an experience the following day. Edit: I do have an internal monologue as well
As someone with aphantasia, I can confirm that, at least for me, simple concrete things like my house do become much more loose and conceptual, in a similar nature to how I conceptualize things like truth and justice, when I try to think about them.
My imagination is like taking a photo in a very dark room, just noise, almost like a fog trying and barely succeeding to take the shape of whatever I try to imagine. Never thought that people can see so much detail in their imagination. Sucks to suck at everything, even at imagination.
I feel exactly the same :c I asked my neices and my mum and they said they can see bright images like a movie, but they're "more real than real" and they immerse themselves completely in it, like it's happening around them... And I can literally only see darkness. I have concepts of things, but my imagination is like being in a pitch black room feeling your way around without any light source :c
i used to be able to see images really bright! but it seems when my mental state has declined it has also affected my visual memory though, my audial memory has not changed. i guess since i use that more my mental state would affect it less?
This really makes me think about well the way I think. I consider myself a very good visualizer when anyone says or mentions anything I visualize it. When I read a book I am visualize it like a movie playing in my mind while I read the words. The things that I visualize are often very very clear, this also happens when I dream. My dreams are often very detailed and usually in color. I rarely ever think something without visualizing it unless it's a concept. I can also visualize things I've never seen, especially landscapes. I think this is one of the main reasons why I find art so difficult. Because I have this perfect picture of it imagined in my mind but I have a really hard time putting it on paper (mostly because of lack of skill) I'll try to look up references that look exactly like what I'm thinking of but they're really hard to find (sometimes impossible)
Really hope he removes the sunglasses when indoors... is honestly a pretty bad look. Just be real and honest, dude looks hot no need for the sunglasses!
I have aphantasia and the thing that broke my heart when I found out is that most everyone else can see again their memories, look at their loved ones even after they passed away. I feel robbed of so much, I shed many tears. I'm also an artist, and I think aphantasia has helped me in a way, because the need to put things on paper because I can't assemble them in my head has driven me to persist with art. But I've never been able to draw the faces of the people I lost, they're lost to me forever.
To clear some questions you might have: What "normal" people imagine does NOT feel like it's real life at all, unlike schizophrenic people. We don't randomly walk into a room and see a monster unless we want to, but even if we wanted to and saw an object, it'd be blury, transparent, wouldn't look real and disappear after seconds. Kind of like it's a new layer of vision that you can differentiate from the other "layer". This is just my experience.
when i writing a book and daydreaming about it or getting inspiration and seeing images and full scenes in my head and even sentences, after i written it down in a document and reading it back its like it wasnt the scene i fully had in my head and its sometimes so frustrating but also quite interesting and fascinating that the mind is so different than real life. same happens for me with artwork (painting and drawing) i have it different in my head but my skills never match my imagination. maybe i imagine too vivid or my imagination is dreamlike. probably the reason i remember much of my dreams (and actually have a kind of Nightmare Disorder i developed though it could be just normal dreams that are vivid in my mind when trying to know what i dreamed of). Ocasionaly i have lucid dreams but the worst part about it is that when i'm trying too hard to get lucid it wouldnt work but when i'm not even trying i become lucid but because of not expecting it i lose it quickly or just wake up in another dream. reading books when i try to imagine the characters, sometimes its very hard. when writing story's i have visuals in my head and actually hear my characters talk when i'm writing said dialogue. so maybe i'm one of those people who have Hyperfantasia?! maybe, but i'm not sure.
I experience the same thing you just described. I also have these imaginations that are more like a dream, although when expressed they are not exactly the same.
Other UA-camrs making a face reveal: *nervous about showing their face for the first time* Solar Sands: *calmly makes face reveal* Edit: OHHH it’s just an actor nevermind dam I’m disappointed
My mind's eye feels like I'm seeing things but there's a layer of black or nothingness on top. I still process what's under it like it's there, but I don't "see" it. It's like that sight-blindness condition, where one technically cannot see, but can still process things like things in their way or holding up fingers. It's like that but it's in my mind and there's a lot of missing details and I can only focus on key points. I never quite identified with "thinking in words" like other aphants.
same, like i can picture my exact kitchen but i'm not literally seeing it as a picture in my head, there's just black. kinda like how you don't actually hear the music when you have a song in your head. at least i dont anyway
Finally, this comment and it's replies eased my anxiety. I thought it was just me who imagined things like they were fuzzy, grayed out silhouettes. It's kindof spooky. Like, I can imagine a red car, but I don't actually see it, I just... Know it's there. I can imagine the concept of a red car, but I can't actually see it. It's just black, but I have the concept in my mind, so I "see" it.
when I was really little, like maybe 7-10 years old, I used to imagine swinging on a swing set, and i for some reason just could not picture a fluid, back-and-forth motion. I would swing forward and then it would just cut to being at the bottom swinging forwards. I think I was focusing so hard on *not* visualizing it that it became what I was imagining. this was in my mind for *years* and at some point, i was able to visualize things easily. in fact, I think my imagination has gotten exceptionally strong now, even compared to outgrowing the swingset thing. I can vividly remember how it used to be like through all the "states of progression" so I think i have an idea of how someone on the lower end of the imagination spectrum thinks.
_"Imagination is a powerful tool. It can tint the memories of the past, shapes the perception of the present, or paint the future so vivid that it can entice... or terrify, all depending upon how we conduct ourselves today."_ *(Garfield: Halloween 1985)*
Agnosia is not a disorder per se! But it instead is a result of a brain lesion in a very specific area. So unless you plan to lesion your brain, you should be pretty safe :')
i have hypophantasia (like aphantasia, but i have a small ability to visually imagine something). when i ‘see’ something in my mind, i get parts of a whole in some blurry messed up shape. if i think of an event, it’s usually myself describing each movement. i can dream, and i dream extremely vividly, but when i wake up everything is gone, no matter if it was a good dream, a lucid dream or a nightmare. it sucks, and i’ve had to get my friends to relay information such as simple directions to somewhere, who a person i’ve seen regularly or just let is, or who a character in a movie is if they are in a common uniform within the film. i cannot draw without tracing, or making key marks and constantly moving everything around, so i do exclusively digital art to draw. i am a quite creative person, but in very word-based subjects (such as creative free-righting).
As an artist with aphantasia, I really appreciate this video so much. All my life until 2 years ago I told myself that I couldn't be a painter or illustrator because it was so difficult for me to capture anything really "original" in my mind that wasn't heavily abstract. I see nothing, but I feel everything. If something looks off, I "see" it right away and constantly bend/change it to the point where some sort of 6th sense tells me it looks fine and to leave it at that. It really comes down to adapting with your skills and creating what's suited best for you. For me, I focus on landscapes and photographs because my concrete spatial awareness with reality is a lot easier for me to translate on a canvas. I don't think I could ever be a concept artist or a character designer based on my setbacks, but I'm just me, and I'm pretty ok with that.
I don't have aphantasia, but I have a very poor imagination (everything is blurry and shapes/colours just kind of appear, I have little to no control over them), and for the longest time had no idea that imagination was such a big spectrum. I didn't understand why some artists can draw a perfect face right away, while others need lots of help lines. my sketches are an absolute mess because I can't visualise the right placement for something until I see it on paper. I thought that just meant I was a shitty artist, but it turns out I'm just working around some extra challenges. I never know how a piece will turn out until I paint it, and sometimes that's actually pretty cool. As an aside, character design is, oddly enough, one of my strengths. I can't visualise details, but I know which details make a character look a certain way.
I recently found out when my kindergarten teacher would say “imagine it in your head while I’m reading” wasn’t just a metaphor. You described dreaming perfectly by the way, that’s exactly how I dream.
I recently found out that not everybody has the ability to accurately visualize things in their mind regardless if they had ever experienced those things beforehand. I guess I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum here.
I beleive I have hyperphantasia, or atleast some form of it. I can imagine a person sitting next to me as vividly as if they were really there, and sometimes I get so lost in vivid imagery in my mind its hard to realise something I'm imagining isn't actually there. The only issue is I struggle greatly with geography. I forget places I've been 3 weeks ago and cant remember them other than by imaging where I am now and picturing myself walking left and right until I reach the place. This usually frustrates people quite a bit
i feel like i have the opposite of aphantansia...multiple times i have thought that a movie existed, when in reality it was just a book i read as a child and imagined in my head.
@@tudorcris4953 i think they're more meaning that their imagination is SO vivid and powerful that they were able to visualize a book so clearly it looked like a movie. not just "misremembering".
My mind eye is blurry, and also scrambled when trying to imagine the entire image. I don't really remember things by only an image, especially people or drawing. I recognize people by their voice and their odor better than their visual. I also remember how I draw by muscle memory and simple gradient or shading, combined with my blurry imagination. Imagining only part of an image also did help a lot.
I have been reflecting on a similar subject for two decades, in regards to music. As a composer of classical music, I often have dreams in which I enjoy listening to music, often through speakers or headphones, except... this music had never been written before! my mind composes it live, layers upon layers of beautifully orchestrated parts, in the most vivid way possible. When I wake up, this ability to auralize original music seems to vanish as if it never existed. I can play recorded opuses entirely from beginning to end (and I often do), but new music? that's a whole different story. The mind works in mysterious ways... and like a good scientist, I will continue to catch that elusive particle until I find it!
Hey. I'm glad that you basically became the VSauce of weird art and how the brain thinks creatively. I remember when you used to do cringe videos of deviantart pictures, but I'm glad you're doing something that opens others minds and makes us think differently. That being said, I really hope you are enjoying this new direction as much as I am. I wouldn't want you doing this if it stresses you out.
I remember when I was part of the animation meme community in like 2017-2018 and hed critique it them, and now his content has evolved and this is still my fav channel
Yeah I can only get an image for like a split second. I can’t visualize anything but a single frame. Nothing moving. Just single images at a time. I’ve always wondered about jt
@@buldg560 since i draw some i try to rotate objects in my imagination often i also find it relaxing but even then trying to move something other then simple shapes is difficult
It's also spot on to me, I'ma go a little big brain-ish here and possibly cringe for most (also in person I'm just a normal guy, not as weird I speak just explaining for context), but from what I noticed the experience depends on the person and their personality type plus their life experiences since birth. I personally remember as a kid playing with pencils as toys which was weird to my family and later as I grew up I realized that I uniquely did that because I was very imaginative in a way that writing, drawing or painting wouldn't satisfy my creativity and when I tried to imagine the characters and the universe I had created in my mind (I basically had my own personal anime world in my head albeit influenced by real anime like dbz and etc.), the details would pop up in my head vividly and vaguely with not even words or drawings to describe it to my parents. Then again I think that's also more commonly an introverted thing?
I can vividly imagine things with their complete and accurate physical properties. I can even visualize the intricate details of gears and pistons and "render" an animation in my mind, simulating the mechanics to see if the gears turn smoothly or if they encounter too much friction. I created my first machines using my imagination when I was just three or four years old. Many of the inventions I later detailed on paper eventually became a reality, though not by my doing, because I lack the financial means. For example, I envisioned an electromagnet-powered levitating train similar to the one in Japan before I knew it existed. However, my version operated in a vacuum tube to minimize air resistance at high speeds and featured doors that would align with the tube using suction. A computer program would facilitate this by automatically initiating a docking procedure. All these ideas came to me when I was just 14 or 15 years old. Now, at 25, I am planning to start my own businesses after college.
@@letrollface3831 is just a joke, that for more people to understand it, he needs to use a person most people might know. I mean, I'm not subscribe to Vsause but I have seen his video. If he had used {insert someone else} less people will get the joke.
the question at minute 5, i have aphantasia and that is exactly how i "imagine" stuff in my head, i just understand it, the information about it is all i need.
If you imagine a new train design you came up with traveling into a tunnel, how do you make sure the design in your mind will fit into the tunnel? How do you see that it does not touch the sides and get stuck? If you use information, what is that information? Is it just words that say that it fits? Can you imagine the scale between two objects, the monumentality between two things, and if it is just information, how is it presented, is it words or is it speech, can you say the speech out loud or do you just know. I can imagine things quite vividly, in fact when I was younger I took some "photographs" of things and put in quite an effort to never forget the image in my mind. It's been so long that I have forgotten most of the detail of the original image, but I can still remember them. I also do understand the idea of knowing something in your mind but never actually taking the time to visualise it. I just wonder, if you can't visualise it, are you less capable of doing things like the train test?
I have aphantasia and I experience the world through my senses mostly. I can remember smells, sounds and feelings so deeply that it can be debilitating sometimes. I have so much to say about this topic and I hope more discoveries are found in this field!
As someone with intrusive thoughts this shit *horrifies* me. I have such a bad fear of being incarcerated for a crime I didn’t commit just because a scan of my brain picked up a thought I had saying I did said crime whilst in reality I didn’t. Probably a useless phobia, but a really concerning phobia to myself nonetheless.
You just described one of the plot points in the show Pyscho Pass. One of the secondary characters reveals how he was arrested as a child for having a high chance of committing crimes after a routine brain scan by the monitors placed throughout the city.
As someone who's going slowly blind, I actually had to develop my visual memory skills. Even down to details like the distance between srairs so I don't fall over.
Hey I'm in the same boat with losing my vision slowly. Since you're also watching solar sands I'm gonna assume you also like art/doing art. Keep that spirit alive and hope you're doing well. Take some orientation and mobility lessons if you're not already. smart to keep up the visual memory. Take care, peace
This is an INCREDIBLY interesting and even somewhat creepy topic. What really goes on within the minds eye of any one person? I think part of the problem with imagination is that there is a part of the brain that is producing the imagine and a part of the brain that judges what we're imagining. As long as the part of the brain doing the judging is OK with the image we produced, we stop imagining the image. The judgement part of the brain is not exclusively using the visual information we produce to confirm the conceptualization of an object. There an abstract idea apart from simple visual information that helps us to crystalize the ideas we are thinking about things in general so. The visual part is kind the cherry on top when it comes to most thoughts and isn't necessarily required. The image produced doesn't need to be perfect for us to be satisfied with the results. The judging part just needs to OK it then it move on since most ideas flow from one to another so quickly. Most of us take too much time to produce a photorealistic image .In other words, a friend might ask me to remember a woman at the mall we both had seen. I might perfectly recall and display an image of that woman in my mind or imagine a stick figure, or even something else entirely like a clown. As long as the judgement part of my brain confirms that I understand what woman my friend was referring to, I will be satisficed and move on to other ideas and images related to a fluid conversation. As you can tell, I have a problem when conceptualizing what words to use when describing things, but I digress.
@@t.n.21 Ah but you see, thanks to my patchy and unreliable memory, I remembered that brown technically doesn’t exist since it’s just a weird shade of yellow.
I've got aphantasia and draw, and also have a few artist friends who have it as well. Everyone I've spoken with at least agrees it's more like having such a strong concept of what you want that it's equivalent to seeing it. It's hard to explain, but it's similar to how you feel when someone asks "what's the first thing you think of when I say X?". That very strong correlation. Sometimes I get flashes of ideas- fast just like a camera flash, and other times I have more of a spatial sense. Like, I want lines to occupy this space on the canvas.
I think that the ability to have your thoughts be machine-readable will be a skill like any other, like writing or speaking. as neither writing or speaking are particularly clear indications of what one is thinking either
That would be cool, it really would be a super useful previz tool for filmmakers.
@@thecianinator I'd imagine in the future those without that skill are going to be seen as unintelegent, which has some pretty concerning social implications
Exactly! Glad someone said it
What a cool thought.
@@GleebyDeebyEeby Do you know if the sort of social implications that that would have are explored?
That guy moving his mouth throughout the video almost looks like he’s lip syncing with Sands’ vocals perfectly.
Yeah the guy I hired is pretty good at it.
@@SolarSands bro if that was you, you were looking kinda fine my guy, you better not be single
@@SolarSands dude is he a professional? he seems really cool, whats his name lol
@@SolarSands I SEE THE LEGOS, BOY
@@killjoy5410 lol the TIE Fighter
I don’t know why, but the most interesting part of this video to me is that Solar Sands is an actual human and not a weird vocaloid
He looks very fashionable.
LMAO
Lens my pfp what's good
He looks exactly how I imagined him, but with a stubble
It's surprising to see his face but he is also handsome and cool with his sunglasses.
Rose= six inches with convoluted red form with a linear green attachment
Glove= continuous brown form with folds
Wife= hat
your comment made me laugh Thank you XD
Yeah, story smells like bs to me.
@@operator8014 Man hes a real person you can look it up more thoroughly if you want
@@ts4858 Real people can have fake stories. Ever heard of Jesus?
@@operator8014 lol look it up
He started with browsing deviant art
And now he's turning into Vsauce
Honestly, I’m here for it. It’s like vsauce from an artist perspective.
@FLIMSY VEIN yep. Followed by raunchy top ten lists lol
Hey deviantart, solar here.
as an artist, I understand this explanation of science much better, vsauce still cool doe
He became famous doing "in a nutshell"
Now I stay for these beautiful essays
I'm one of the ones with aphantasia who can't picture things in their head, but can hear and manipulate sound very well. I didn't even realise it until I was about 20 or 21. I always though "Picture this" was a metaphor.
Same, and I feel like if I didn't have it I would be so much better at art, at the same time it could very well be a blessing though oh god getting anxiety and actually SEEING the demons in your minds NAH that's too much for me
That must be rough, as an artist who has a 1 to 1 imagination, I often imagine images and draw them from memory without any issue. It’s very interesting to think of how someone like you would think. I use imagery for absolutely everything, even sound and other senses.
@@PainStarrr So you can genuinely just imagine something, and recreate it?
To be fair, it is a metaphor.
@@jckart I can’t imagine anything, except horses, horses I can see as blobs in my head. I also always thought “imagine this” was a metaphor haha. Didn’t know this wasn’t normal lol
His hair looks so fluffy. Also I wasn't expecting an existential crisis.
Literally me too
i wanna pet it lmao
something about knowing how little i see actually gets percieved freaked me out
My sister has fluffy hair and one of the kids in her class always say something about it like, wow you have fluffy hair
@@mrs.brightside4909 2
I have aphantasia, yet I dream in full color. My whole life when I’d hear people say “imagine your relaxing on a beach” or count sheep jumping a fence”, I didn’t know they could actually “watch the movie” in their head. One advantage of having aphantasia is when I lay down to go to sleep, I see perfect pitch black and have no visual distractions. I loved your imagine truth and justice examples, I will use those to explain to people what I see in the future. If I lay still and try really hard, I can sometimes visualize simple objects for a fleeting moment. The best what I can describe it is like when you close your eyes after someone shines a flash light in your eyes and that bright image fades away quickly.
Ahh the complexity of only being able to experience your own experience. I cant imagine having aphantasia and sleeping with absolutely nothing (when i sleep i can see myself on a rock in the middle of an ocean reflecting the stars above and that puts me to sleep)
>"One advantage of having aphantasia is when I lay down to go to sleep, I see perfect pitch black and have no visual distractions."
As someone who does have visualization, however limited - in my case there's no image "on the eyelids". It's only as distracting as inner monologue (if you have it voiced in your head) and can be subdued either by focusing on something else or letting it flow without giving any actual consideration.
As for how it feels - somewhat similar to mental math in terms of keeping track of details and the brainspace it's happening in.
It's crazy because I see nothing no matter how hard I imagine too and have such vivid dreams that I can't tell them from reality. Then once completely awake immediately lose that sense of dreaminess if you can call it that
@@laimawolf6826 I literally drove my wife crazy asking her questions when I realized that some people can close their eyes “see things”. My experience is very similar to yours full vivid color dreams. But, while awake, I struggle to even have even random foggy simple shapes appear. The best I could do is almost like looking at the clouds on an overcast day and trying to create some type of arrangement or shapes out of the chaos.
I can't visualize stuff in my head but I do see faces when I close my eyes sometimes
I like how this channel is becoming a lot more psychological.
I like the progress tbh
@@ammagon4519 Me too actually. It gives me Vsauce vibes
@@Cpt_Natalia but with HAIR. a lot of it.
Missed the days where he would rant about a furry dystopian art figures
Cool
everyone is talking about the face reveal but I just saw a hat.
I saw Dr. P‘s wife
I just saw a fleshlight in front of a microphone
@@TerribleTonyShow chad energy
I just saw my favourite red Audi hat which is funny because I’m watching this right next to it.
What's a hat?
lol i like how he's slowly but surely showing more of his face. it started with the hourglass mask, then sunglasses and a face mask, and now just the sunglasses. dope
@Smeebslol linear space video I believe
@Smeebslol he used a mask of his logo in some of his older videos (I'm sorry I don't remember the names, but it's a bit before* he slowed down with the deviantart series)
@Smeebslol oh, you mean the sunglasses and face mask one, sorry! I think it's one of the videos after the cowcat merch drop, but I'm not sure
Next he'll have no skin
@Smeebslol it was in one of his liminal space videos, when he was looking out of the car he was in and said something along the lines of "get in losers were gonna find some liminal spaces"
the best way i can describe how my mind works with aphantasia is:
imagine you have a computer where you can research any info you want, including images and videos but the screen is painted black, u can't actually SEE anything but somehow you still have access to all the info that the computer gives you, you are still able to understand perfectly any image that is showed in the computer, u just dont literally see anything
:')
Yessss
Yes, exactly. I "know" what my home looks like if I imagine it, I just can't "see" it as an image on a screen. It's like I have access to the information contained in the image, but no the image itself. I can see things in my dreams though, even in vivid colors and details on rare occasions.
I think it comes down to whether we are able to willfully simulate visual stimuli in our heads. It's probably similar to how some people don't have an inner voice. They probably "know" their thoughts the way that we "know" what an imagined object looks like, they just can't simulate the sound in their heads.
I assume that people without aphantasia only "see" imagined objects if they close their eyes, so if they want to know what aphantasia is like, then they could try to imagine an apple while their eyes are still open. If my assumption is correct, then they won't actually see the apple when doing this, but they will still somehow have access to information about how it looks. For me it's like that even when my eyes are closed.
@@x-r-sin no way does anyone actually, physically see an apple like a hologram in front of you, regardless of if their eyes are open…
Omg. I might have to save this because this is better than any way I could have ever explained it.
@@x-r-sas someone without aphantasia I honestly don’t know how to describe what it’s like. You can imagine with your eyes open replaying images in your mind. It doesn’t physically manifest in your vision. Kinda like how you can hear your inner voice but you’re not actually hearing it
I‘m like really confused. When I concentrate about seeing an apple, I see absolutely nothing. Not even the slightest bit of color. Yet, when I want to sleep I can make up stories in my head, design chatakters, make backgrounds, everything.
I have the same thing happening to me. Maybe it has something to do with our level of concentration??
There's a thing called hypnagogic hallucinations, it happens on the transition to sleep, it seems that the mekanism responsible for the imagination in such condition, is similar to the one in a dream, which could explain your case.
That may be in part of maladaptive daydreaming.
YEESSS me too! When i'm not really concentrating my imagination gets so vivid i can actually forget about my surroundings, but i can't force myself to imagine something when someone asks me to if my life depends on it
I know exactly what you mean
The shock I felt when he casually appeared on screen. The amount of swag he exudes, I am swooning
the exaggerated swagger of a DeviantArt browser
honestly shocked, i might have to politely simp
i know right? no announcement of a semi-face reveal, it just happens. boom. right in your face. i love this man so much
@@raspberry93 I'm currently running to your current location at a swift pace of 90 miles an hour, be there shortly.
Didn't he also show his face in the liminal spaces video?
I imagine the best use of this technology will be for clients seeking out an art commission from someone. For people who can't draw or don't know the terminology about what they want to be done, having a crude "imagined" sketch will help artists greatly. I can't tell you the number of times someone has asked me to draw a "caricature" of someone when they want a simple cartoon. Never going to forget the time someone asked me for a silhouette and I gave them sketch after sketch until they finally sent me an image of what they wanted and, they wanted a line drawing.
woah, you got a heart!
Imagine if this technology was so advanced that now you can picture what you want to draw, and then you have the drawing done, just by imaging it
@@pitnaya it would probably still be better to draw it out so you can fix it up and stuff
Yeah, I'd imagine that this type of technology should be used in laws, because there's too many people who get away with the things they have committed.
Because of how rich they are, among other things, so if there is obvious evidence they've committed the crime and through the thoughts. So, here should be no reason that they won't go to jail.
Also it can used for other things in the art field, and can possibly be used to tackle trama and other mental issues people face on daily basis.
To add on, jmagine this you hook up someone to a world where they are in a world where they are happy. This person is a suspect for many things, but there is no evidence.
They imagine stuff they want to believe..
But there's a problem. The things that make them happy are inhumane, and communicates the acts they have done in real life. So they've solved the problem and out this person in jail for good.
It may can be used on animals too, to see there intelligence. And how certain animal's compare each other intelligence. But, obviously if it doesn't hurt them then yes you can test them.
There's so many opportunities for this type of intelligence, and being able to solve the problems that this type of intelligence might not be able to use it on.
But I think this type of technology should be limited to normal people, for numerous reasons.
My friend has aphantasia, I forget a lot and ask things like, “how do you think this hair would look on me?” I feel really bad when I forget and he tells me for the billionth time that he can’t picture things.
I have aphantasia, but I could proably still satisfy that request given the context of you showing me a picture of the hair.
That's something I absolutely can't do as well. But I'm not sure if I have this condition. In fact my mind can't create absolutely nothing new. Just what I already have seen. Maybe that's why I am passionate about cinema, movies and pictures. But I absolutely can't create anything myself
solar sands: *interesting topic*
everybody: YOU’RE NOT AN HOURGLASS???
TO BE FAIR, WR ALL THOUGHT HE WAS AN HOURGLASS
OMG I CAN SEE THE BOTTOM HALF OF HIS FACE???
Can't believe he isn't actually a simplistic circle made of orange shades
@@MPHJackson7 now your talking like him😭🤚
*an
Wait... Solar Sands' face isn't just a hourglass. It's all a lie-
i'm suing
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*hmmmmmmmmmm*
Always has been....
It always has been
420 likes. Nice
This guy's entire world was probably like the "can you recognize anything in this picture" picture. Must have been terrifying.
i literally NEVER seen anyone misuse "your" with "you". New low, wow!
@@CoffeeTheDragon damn dude I accidentally pressed one key I shouldn't have while typing this out on my keyboard and missed it while reading over it, chill
You know what's even more terrifying, that happened once to a blind dude who was given sight through an eye transplant. He gained sight for the first time ever as an adult, but it turns out you actually have to learn to use your sight from infancy all the way to maturity. He was unable to recognize humans, he didn't have any depth perception, and whatever he was seeing, he apparently didn't like it because he killed himself not long after.
How the hell did he get a wife to begin with
@@hennepun6992 it didn't start happening until after he married i think
i don't have aphantasia, but your description of how you visualize is much more vivid than i experience. i can call to mind vague images of things, fluctuating outlines, splotches of color, the general vibe of depth of a form, but i can only really maintain one such detail at a time. but i'm really good at math, which feels to me like a surprisingly visual discipline; whether that's mentally performing algebra on visualized math symbols, or coming up with and manipulating visuals of systems which exhibit a particular relation in one or more of their properties, etc.. it'd be interesting to see how my mental models/methods compare to those of near-aphantasic artists.
Your description is the closest to my own experience of any of the other comments. I happen to suck at math, especially when I have to do it in my head.
it took me a second to realize it was a face reveal and not just a clip of someone speaking to talk over
@@itshayess g
big brain
what's the time stamp
Same
ha ✊ looking for this comment.
I'm a maladaptive daydreamer with aphantasia. It's very frustrating spending hours everyday daydreaming, but not being able to see my daydreams. I have to write it like a book, and think about scenes in concepts rather than pictures. It's so crazy to me that most people can actually see things in their mind.
Same 🖐️
But I started writing down my dreams as soon as I wake up because my dreams are really awesome and imaginative. By doing that, I started seeing dreams more often and I love that.
I watch anime in my dreams sadly you cant :)
It's crazy realizing this now I thought everyone couldn't actually see images and just make a story.
It's so surprising to me you're bothered by this, because I have aphantasia and I've never had a daydream in my life. I thought active visualisation was required for daydreaming
Wait what they can see their thoughts...?
Do you guys ever try to imagine a song in your head but sometimes your mind just goes crazy and you keep reversing the song at a specific point like half a second back and keep doing it and it's hard to control?
Sometimes i have a thing were when i imagine a song and then it goes slowly and then it snaps back and goes faster and then it goes back to normal
i often get earworms of the most prominent part of a song
and sometimes because of the music i occasionally dive into, the most prominent part is also the most annoying part
take "build our machine" i havent heard in in a while so i might be off-
but i remember hearing about 5 seconds of it with many many layers of conflicting music (its a song about a horror game so yeah)
sometimes itd be 3 seconds or longer
but it kept repeating and id hear every single layer clearly along with lyrics and background
*and it was infuriating*
i tend to blame my ADHD but idk if its actually abnormal or not
Sometimes I get a feeling like the ‘voice in my head’ or if I have a song stuck in my head or whatever is just randomly really loud. And I get kinda on edge because of that.
sometime I imagine people or things falling apart. Once I was trying to recall an episode of backyardigans and I kept imagining their heads just melting off, even if I tried not to. Idk if this counts s an intrusive thought or not but it's really annoying when that happens.
@@SM-qv2om definitely an intrusive thought. Lockdown etc has made the most irritating things come back, intrusively seeing and sensing whatever I'm eating/drinking to be rotten or full of bugs! Have had similar to you in the past, im 27 and over thr years been diagnosed with ocd, adhd and tourettes
Waked up after a Lucid nightmare once, and I literally got so frightened, I couldn't recognize my sister by her face. It just felt like, I was alone everywhere. UNTIL I REMEMBERED I HAD HOMEWORK.
God I'm crying. My immediate thought when he came on screen was "Oh hey Kurtis Conner is growing some facial hair."
Kurtissss
what the eff
when you find your neighbors from kurtis town here 😂💀
Yes he looks so much like him
What part of kurtis town are you from?
As a kid, I remember I used to "break" my mind's eye. I'd imagine something so vivid and then go into more and more detail until I just went blank and wasn't able to imagine anything for the next hour or so
😳
huh
Yeet
How long did it take for you be able to imagine again??
ngl iwant to try that
14:42 it’s drake in hotline bling
nice
nice
@Michael Barefield ok
@Michael Barefield
Maybe his views n stuff spike up and down because he uploads like once a month??
@Michael Barefield I usually immediately doubt claims like these, but seeing as he's a Fortnite youtuber, I almost believe it.
I will never understand the concept of "seeing" things purely by imagining. The closest I can get is dreaming but that still seems like a long way from consciously deciding to picture an image in front of you whilst being disconnected from it
EXACTLY! WHEN I IMAGINE SOMETHING I SEE THE REAL WORLD PERFECTLY BUT AT THE SAME TIME I CAN SEE WHAT I AM IMAGINING, IT'S INSANELY COMPLEX AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE DOUBLE VISION EXCEPT ONE CAN BE MODIFIED AND ONE IS WHAT YOU SEE.
the problem is that no one (unless you're, like, schizophrenic or something lol) sees what they imagine as if they were looking at a physical object
@@orang1921That's what I thought but some people say they can see it. I can "see" it but not actually
@@BobectorGamesBobector It's like when you hear your own voice inside your head or get a song stuck in your head. It's audible but it's not as clear as hearing it in real life and you wouldn't mistake it for a song playing on your computer.
@@orang1921yes people can. I can imagine an apple and not only see every curve and detail of it but it's in color as well. When I stare off and go into my imagination I can watch entire scenes unfold in my head just like in a dream. The people who cannot do this have a condition known as aphantasia my wife suffers from this so we take lots of pics so she can look back on our lives
Ik I'm pretty late but as someone who was an avid watcher of solar sands since his in a nutshell days, the face reveal felt extremely surreal
Tell Joseph I said hi
Ikr I used to love watching his deviant art videos and laughed hard at his jokes and cow cat. Fun times.
@@Jsssddfgffghshdhdhusjsjd yes I will, psychadon.
literally i could not imagine living without being able to visually imagine things, i always find it such a great escape for myself to just daydream and picture myself in made up scenes in some other world while it lines up to the lyrics and beat of one of my favourite songs
i could never picture things but i can still imagine them!! it’s just mostly dialogue of me thing “this is here that is there” and “i’m doing this” and since i have always been like this i can’t imagine it being any different
same
Same
I do that a lot as well but since I can’t really imagine pictures very well in my head it ends up more as just amorphous blobs of concepts, which works just as well for me since that’s the only way it’s ever been and I quite enjoy the stories and the atmospheres I come up with
Immersive Daydreamers unite
So you're telling me he could identify his brother by his teeth but mistaken children for a water hydrant
Guy's probably trolling lol
The brain is more complex than we will ever begin to understand
As someone who is face blind, you grasp to what identifiers you can. Bad teath, strange nose, glasses. Anything to do with shape is a definite boon to identification.
Dude have you seen children? Once you’re like around 16-20 assuming you have a normal growth spurt you can’t even differentiate children from a dog in kids clothes.Children are basically like fire hydrants or garbage cans with black tops
I don't know, I pay so little attention to children that the only real thing I use to identify them is noise
5:23 Hit me like a brick wall. I've thought for a while that I have aphantasia but because I'm artistic (designing crochet) I didn't think I could have it. But I'm on the verge of tears because there are actually people that struggle with visualizing things in my mind and still can make things. I have to have several reference photos and videos to make things freehand, but I can make them pretty accurately. And even thinking of the designs I make, they're very minimalist with 1-2 extremely distinct features letting you know what it is (wings and nose of a bat, nose and tail of a fox, gills and tail of an axolotl). I guess it's easy for me to do that because I don't really "see" those things in my mind, but more see the "concept" of what those things would look like. Idk, probably need to finally tell my therapist or doctor about this. Just had to share my self revelation.
My imagination is somehow perfectly clear but blurry and unfocused when I try to think details.
Perfectly normal lol
Only people with super good memory can
I think it's because the images are actually ALWAYS blurry, but since we know what we're trying to imagine, we don't realize how blurry they are. Because regardless of how blurry it is, we know WHAT it is. But when we try to imagine details, something that depends upon actual good visuals, we realize that it is all blurry when we suddenly can't properly visualize these small details at all.
@@catpoke9557 Actually I think I've seen a video in which they talked about different levels of being able to imagine things, so some people have a more blurry imagination than others. For example I don't have the problem of blurriness when thinking of details.
Man mine's a little confusing, sometimes i can see a whole picture, mostly stuff I have seen already. Other times, I think when imagining a scene, I can't really focus on all of it at once and for details i have to isolate whatever it is and zoom in. I suppose my mind's eye is a little blurry.. that, or I can't properly visualize on command lol
Many eons pass, we have finally achieved commercially available mental projection. However, people are disappointed to see their minds only produce images of the ounceler over and over again.
And those images feature the Onceler making out with another Onceler.
The deepest image they extract from my brain will be markiplier E
My father discovered that he has Aphantasia like 6 months ago when he was 41, and as we tried to explain what "normal" people can see and do with their mind he was absolutely mind-blown
yeah, same here. i did not know that humans could actually do that, it's hard for me to comprehend
If I try to imagine something, I can either imagine nothing or a blurry mess
@@lloyddragon2036 for what it's worth, it is also very hard for "normal" people to comprehend what it must be like not being able to visualize anything in your mind. I just recently found out that most of my friends think with a voice in their head and as they were describing those voices I came to realize that I hardly ever think with a voice in my head. Words and thoughts pop in but I, for the life of me, can't hear a voice. This was as weird to them as it was for me, as I had thought that the "voice in your head" was just thoughts that pop in that you FEEL the meaning of, not one that you can mentally assign a voice to.
@@travisumbel6877 Out of curiosity, do you hear words when you read them? I'm not sure if I can actually read a word without pronouncing it in my mind, but now I'm trying I certainly can't. If I've seen it enough times I might just be able to recognise it as a pattern (e.g. a number plate) and know what it represents without further thought but I couldn't do that with most things I actually try to read without at least hearing them in my mind.
@@cameroni6785 Same. I cannot read without always hearing that voice in my head reading what I read. xDD Its just not possible, I cant. xD
What I can do is to think without that voice, but even though I can it is a lot easier with the voice.
I can only imagine an image so long as I’ve seen that *exact* object
“Imagine an apple”
*imagines apple slices on paper towel*
“Now rotate the apple”
“What?”
I can imagine moving objects well as long as it happens instinctively(when I'm doing a storyline in my head) but "Imagine a ball casting a shadow" uh huh how does shadow look like again, I tried and it's just a 2D print of the video's apple. I can rotate it but only in 6 frames per second.
I wasn't expecting that face reveal. Nice
Is this a troll
Edit: yo it wasn't
@@hamsacc wdym
@@hamsacc nope
@@meiysko Same.
Do not like
Solar sands before: This art is bad, no you cant see my face
Solar sands now: What if we can read your mind
You saw solar sans but wait for Solar sounds
I like this Solar Sands better tbh. Edits are epic and his commentary is just amazing.
it's like vsauce but somehow more nihilistic
None of those things are related
The next vsauce, perhaps.
I was in Art Class at school when I realised I had aphantasia. Of course the teacher said "Picture an apple, what colour is it? Is it perfectly round? Is it all one colour? Is it a uniform shape?" So everyone's drawing their apples and I'm thinking "oh so I just draw a generic apple" and the teacher said to me "no, picture it in your mind" and I just blinked at her and said "But I can't, no-one can" she thought I was lying 🤷🏾♀️👏🏾😂
@@Omna420 Try hyperosmia, it's where you have a heightened sense of smell. I've got it but it honestly sucks so candles and perfume kill me 😂 (not literally)
@@Omna420 imagining new colors is physically impossible for the human mind to do, crazy right?
@@Divine__. I think so, I can't image what another colour would look like physically, maybe we've discovered all the colours?
@@TurtlesAndTortoises302 We haven't, we're just physically limited by our eyes. There's more shades of colors, millions of them, that we can't see because it's the maximum we can see
@@SkySaito its so interesting to think about that we may never be able to see these colours.
As someone with Aphantasia myself, on the scale of 'nearly nothing' in mental imagery, I can say it's a little complicated and depends on how the person is centered. I am centered around the 'feel' of a place, person, or thing. Not actual touch, but an impression of it. A person can have a warm 'feeling' about them, and your home can 'feel' safe. I go largely off of that, myself. I'm sure other people go based off of other things.
Yes! A lot of my imagining or remembering is “emotional” or “vibe” based… it’s like I get a sort of emotionally coded info dump that places me in the mental landscape and then it just “is”. Very abstract / hard to explain.
I do that for characters in books even though I have strong mental imaging
Yeah like, if I work in the front of the restaurant, I have the front-of-the-restaurant feeling. But if I work in the back, I get a totally different feeling. It's like, you know it's the same building, but in memory it feels spatially different.
...Did that make sense???
So basically, you constantly vibe check.
It's hard for me to imagine how you experience, though I have my own experience with feeling but it is without a doubt way different than yours.
“He could however identify Platonic solids”
damn his wife got friend zoned in multiple dimensions!
Lol
*identity zoned*
Oh shit *and* she got called *fat* damn
hat-zoned
Imagine being in school and your teacher notices you're not paying attention and starts playing your thoughts on the board 👀
I would socially be murdered
I'm 37 and that idea is making me nervous. Sounds horrifying. 😅
Sounds like something that would be very illegal. Personally I'd just intentionally think of something absolutely gruesome with the words "Mind your own business" in the center
OMG NO
@@Miss_Prowlheart haha
how does a man so casually reveal his face in a video so strange and otherworldly that only his best fans would dare to watch it?
Cuz hes too cool
I thought his face was nerdy
true fan check
@@jamesjoe4654 Thought it was cool
I don't think the video concept is really too out there or something only "his best fans" would watch. This is just the style of videos he has moved to making. He doesn't do art criticism anymore, he does Vsauce-esque pop-science essays.
This reminds me of the mental pains of drawing illusion artwork. If you stare at the possibilities too long, you'll end up thinking simple things like tree stumps are leprechauns or abstract business signs are people standing next to the building (when stared at from a distance). Luckily for the non-artists, you can view these pieces in a few seconds or trip out on them longer to see into our imaginations, without being stuck with visual inconsistencies of an illness.
When I was a little kid I would play “mind video games” where I would legit just play video games in my head and dominate everyone
epic
Same. Now I just make fight scenes and stuff in my head
@@randomdude5070 I once had a dream where I was essentially playing a VR shooter in dream form
I also had a dream where I was shot and survived to shoot the guy back
@@vaclavjebavy5118 nice, my last dream I was hanging out with a homeless meth addict
@@randomdude5070 was he nice
The whole "Truth" and "Justice" comparison you made is spot on and is something I'm totally going to steal now when explaining my condition to others.
I have synesthesia so I just thought of light blue and purple because that’s the colours the two words are.
@@crisptomato9495 What is lie color?
@@panafa3617 idk probably red
@@JubilantGratitude Thats my guess
@@panafa3617 orange
I'm actually so glad to see this shift in content. I know that this happened over a longer amount of time but the stuff you talk about now it's so much more interesting!!
ME TOO! i came to comment this lol
I agree. :)
I'm glad to have seen his growth as a content creator from some jerk who made fun of kid's drawings, to someone who is actually asking some really interesting questions and giving fascinating insight. I'm learning so much from his channel now, things I don't think I've seen anyone talk about, and for that, I'm here to stay. ^^
Those clip reconstructions are actually incredibly similar to what my imagination looks like. I've always described as being vague, blurry impressions mixed with a sort of inner dialogue of knowledge that "fills in" the missing finer details. I know they're there, i just can't picture them. The image is also faded and colors are muted, but not completely colorless. What I'm imagining usually exists in an empty void unless I'm deliberately conjuring an environment. Strong moods can influence that void to become a generic background, or a specific place I'm familiar with. But its still quite blurred and morphs and shifts slightly.
If i focus really hard sometimes I can get the image to get sharper or more detailed but it fades in and out, i can't control it well, and sometimes it doesn't work at all
I love how you didn’t put “FaCe ReVeAl” on your title. No point of that drama. As fans, we shouldn’t even tell anyone that asks.
Tf are you talking about
@@morphiousm he literally first showed his face in this video
@@morphiousm a lot of youtubers who don’t show their faces make a face reveal video and make a huge deal out of it
@@АлекАлистарх what if its cgi like the moon landing
@@ConFlow247 pfft! Moon landing fake? We all know the moon’s not even real! Wake up,sheep!!
He just swings by and showed his face so casually, and he looks good???
Yeah I was genuinely so caught off guard when it took me a moment to realize it was him, then I just shut down
he's much cuter then I thought
He looks like a human... it’s wild
If you could project your imagination on a screen, then artists will be hungrier than ever
@@ivotcomer3183 yes
@@ivotcomer3183 you make a valid point. If we had the ability to do this. I wouldn’t want SCP:1004 anymore
I thought this for a while, but try imagining correct proportion of an entire image at the same time
I thought this comment was a joke about how artists would get really hungry when imagining their favorite foods
@@00maniacmanny00 lol no
It's a common joke that artists are always hungry because they make little to no money
I have 100% aphantasia but only realized it a year ago so when people used to tell me to "imagine you're on a beach" to relax I'd think of the properties of a beach (sand, water, umbrella and beachball) then try to think of a canvas and put them on it.
I'd have a yellow strip for the bottom half and a blue strip for the top then add in my beachball and umbrella without ever seeing them so it'd just kind of be in my mind for a bit while actually SEEING just pour black.
kinda makes me sad lol
I'm pretty sure that's normal.
@@AgentDearestZso like when I close my eyes it’s just black. If I just lay there and think about it being black I have some whitish spots that move around.
When I “imagine” things, I don’t see any images in the blackness, but I can like “walk” through my house, go down the street, basically visit places I’ve been. I can also think of unique scenarios and imagine myself having powers or being a different person. All of this is while I see black. Is that aphantasia? When Solar Sands talked about the Apple, I don’t see images like they a legit picture, but I can imagine an Apple in my hand moving it around, still completely pitch black.
Sorry it’s so long. Thank you if you answer.
SAME!!! I didn’t know this wasn’t normal!
@@BunnyArisu I also have that and I don't know if I have aphantasia or not.
@@Pole2137 After talking with some friends about it, I don't think I do have it. I just misunderstood what the "images" referred to. It's super hard to describe, but if you can think of similar things to what I mentioned, then you probably don't have Aphantasia either. That being said, I'm not a doctor and I cannot diagnose either of us. There are tests online that you can google to help clarify what a mind's eye "image" looks like.
Who is this mysterious man, and why is he discussing existential philosophy in a closet?
Also please don't wear sunglasses inside, it's such an awkward thing some people do!
@@MysteriousLoppan for some people it's comforting to wear sunglasses while filming themselves. you don't have to think about looking into the camera at the right moments etc. The other thing is the stigma about wearing glasses indoors. you might have heard "only blind people and assholes wear sunglasses indoors" but in my personal opinion - i'm not the style police and even tho it's not my taste, if you want to wear sunglasses inside, go for it.
@@MysteriousLoppan Some people wear sunglasses due to anxiety. People not being able to see their eyes makes them feel less exposed.
@@MysteriousLoppan adequate lighting for recording can be blinding.
@@MysteriousLoppan personally, as someone who has migraines, sometimes it really helps to wear sunglasses inside lol. Though who knows why solar sands is wearin em, it might also be for anonymity
He’s wearing big sunglasses because he’s hiding his third eye
Or he's just small
Lmaoo
@Chad Brody
The prime minister is a reptilian.
🤣I need this to be a fact
Maybe he's a cyclops, like in the bad Percy Jackson sequel
No he actually have no eyes
He looks like he’s gonna play jazz music but he for real went check this out it’s me deciphering the human mind
I have aphantasia and only discovered recently. I’d never heard of it before and it made so much sense. My dreams are more about feelings than pictures, my thoughts are not easily put into words. I’ve learned to describe it as being aware of concepts.
I respect how you did the face reveal. No 10-minute long video about your face, no dramatic reveal, none of that over the top spammy nonsense. Just popped on camera and didn't even acknowledge it.
UA-cam says there is 1 reply but there is none. Is UA-cam okay?
He did do a video that showed his face before, but it was really quick
@@jp323.z What video? There ain't a video of his I haven't seen
@@skelemberry3810 it was in his first liminal space video at 13:39 he had a mask and sunglasses on tho
@@jp323.z Oh right, I forgot about that. Back in the wretched days of without a beard's past.
Since I was young, I've imagined stories in my head (like an imagination-television). I can picture some scenes quite well, but sometimes faces are just a blurry mess. It seems like the more I try, the less I am able to see. I get so frustrated when I can't zoom in on details.
yes i have the exact same problem! and it gets so annoying when i have to replay the same scene in my head 10x because I can only "see" some,not all, of the things i'm trying to imagine...
I've always found imagining faces difficult. It's hard to visualize even the ones I see daily, and making up new ones is pretty much impossible
sameee
Except I can imagine the faces pretty decently
@@sele6138 for me it's not just difficult, it's completely impossible
I can't remember the actual quote, but it went something like this:
"Your first thought is what you were conditioned to think. Your second defines who you are."
that's the quote
Wow. I'll remember this
Wasn't that is exactly how it was quoted?
I saw that on a meme of a tumblr post ageeess ago
YES! THAT WAS A QUOTE FROM SOME PERSON ON TUMBLR'S MOM I THINK.
When I was younger my imagination was so vivid that sometimes in the dark I would see faint hallucinations of things. I’ve also always been able to picture images in my mind but it feels like the image just isn’t there, like it’s behind my physical eyes. I have no idea on the quality of the images though, but usually I only focus on one aspect. Like if I think of my house I just see my house but I have the knowledge of everything else that’s there. I don’t see anything else until I think about it though. What I mean by this is that if I think of my house I just have a general image of what it roughly looks like. When I think about the roof, I can see the exact shade and material. When I think of the garden I can visualise the plants there. Kind of like a microscope. Looking at an image is like looking at something out of focus, but I can focus on particular parts of the one image to make them clearer.
On another note, I can imagine music extremely vividly. It’s just like listening to the actual thing. While my memory of lyrics might not be 100% accurate, I can imagine the beat and instruments very vividly. I can basically listen to music whenever I want. Maybe my visual imagination is below or around average but my auditory imagination is very high.
One more thing, with the apple test, I can very easily imagine the apple in those circumstances. I can imagine what it’s like after taking a bite, I can imagine it in a table and casting a shadow. I can grab it and move it around but the animation quality of my mind feels like I took a video at 3 fps and got a computer to generate the frames in between to get it to 60fps. I only vividly imagine the starting image and the end image, but I can faintly see the process or animation. It’s a lot easier to visualise things I’ve seen, imagining something new usually results in a less vivid image. I can remember some of my dreams though. Not all of them, but if something stood out to me I can remember it, but I’m usually reminded of it through an experience the following day.
Edit: I do have an internal monologue as well
Dude we got the same thing
"What If You Could Project Your Imagination Onto a Screen?"
There is not a more terrifying thought I could conjure than that
Just imagine what you would see if you hooked this guy up to the screen: ua-cam.com/video/eWku6kzJA80/v-deo.html
God the amount of horniey there would be on screen
@@KattalystFr that would be like 50% of it
Imagine if you could pull Nightmares out of people and then put them into other people for horror stories or torture. Good and bad, but mostly bad
mine would be a black screen with maybe fuzzy grey idea of an object
As someone with aphantasia, I can confirm that, at least for me, simple concrete things like my house do become much more loose and conceptual, in a similar nature to how I conceptualize things like truth and justice, when I try to think about them.
took too long to find this comment for confirmation
My imagination is like taking a photo in a very dark room, just noise, almost like a fog trying and barely succeeding to take the shape of whatever I try to imagine.
Never thought that people can see so much detail in their imagination. Sucks to suck at everything, even at imagination.
I feel exactly the same :c I asked my neices and my mum and they said they can see bright images like a movie, but they're "more real than real" and they immerse themselves completely in it, like it's happening around them... And I can literally only see darkness. I have concepts of things, but my imagination is like being in a pitch black room feeling your way around without any light source :c
Me too :(
Sometimes imagination can be stressful
Damn can you hear in your imagination though?
i used to be able to see images really bright! but it seems when my mental state has declined it has also affected my visual memory
though, my audial memory has not changed. i guess since i use that more my mental state would affect it less?
This really makes me think about well the way I think. I consider myself a very good visualizer when anyone says or mentions anything I visualize it. When I read a book I am visualize it like a movie playing in my mind while I read the words. The things that I visualize are often very very clear, this also happens when I dream. My dreams are often very detailed and usually in color. I rarely ever think something without visualizing it unless it's a concept. I can also visualize things I've never seen, especially landscapes. I think this is one of the main reasons why I find art so difficult. Because I have this perfect picture of it imagined in my mind but I have a really hard time putting it on paper (mostly because of lack of skill) I'll try to look up references that look exactly like what I'm thinking of but they're really hard to find (sometimes impossible)
Took me longer than 20 seconds to realize he’s showing his face.
It’s actually a body actor.
Whoever that is, my imagination sees him 100% as Ryder from San Andreas.
Really hope he removes the sunglasses when indoors... is honestly a pretty bad look. Just be real and honest, dude looks hot no need for the sunglasses!
@@TipperProject I beg to differ I like the sunglasses too
It took me untill the end of the video
Bruh I’ve been waiting for almost 5 years to see his faces and it took me a whole ass minute to understand that the dude with sunglasses was him😭
LMaoo same xD
SAME LMAO
SAME
LOL
Might wanna get your head checked out bruh
I have aphantasia and the thing that broke my heart when I found out is that most everyone else can see again their memories, look at their loved ones even after they passed away. I feel robbed of so much, I shed many tears.
I'm also an artist, and I think aphantasia has helped me in a way, because the need to put things on paper because I can't assemble them in my head has driven me to persist with art.
But I've never been able to draw the faces of the people I lost, they're lost to me forever.
Bruh moment
Bruh moment and sad moment
To clear some questions you might have: What "normal" people imagine does NOT feel like it's real life at all, unlike schizophrenic people. We don't randomly walk into a room and see a monster unless we want to, but even if we wanted to and saw an object, it'd be blury, transparent, wouldn't look real and disappear after seconds. Kind of like it's a new layer of vision that you can differentiate from the other "layer". This is just my experience.
I mean, if you put it like that it sounds really tragic, but you know, photos have existed for quite a while now
Did you ever had hallucinations or lucid dreams?
when i writing a book and daydreaming about it or getting inspiration and seeing images and full scenes in my head and even sentences, after i written it down in a document and reading it back its like it wasnt the scene i fully had in my head and its sometimes so frustrating but also quite interesting and fascinating that the mind is so different than real life. same happens for me with artwork (painting and drawing) i have it different in my head but my skills never match my imagination. maybe i imagine too vivid or my imagination is dreamlike. probably the reason i remember much of my dreams (and actually have a kind of Nightmare Disorder i developed though it could be just normal dreams that are vivid in my mind when trying to know what i dreamed of). Ocasionaly i have lucid dreams but the worst part about it is that when i'm trying too hard to get lucid it wouldnt work but when i'm not even trying i become lucid but because of not expecting it i lose it quickly or just wake up in another dream.
reading books when i try to imagine the characters, sometimes its very hard. when writing story's i have visuals in my head and actually hear my characters talk when i'm writing said dialogue.
so maybe i'm one of those people who have Hyperfantasia?! maybe, but i'm not sure.
I experience the same thing you just described. I also have these imaginations that are more like a dream, although when expressed they are not exactly the same.
When the clip of the man in shades was playing I didn't realize that it was in sync with the audio
someone’s about to get r/woooshed, i can feel it..
Other UA-camrs making a face reveal: *nervous about showing their face for the first time*
Solar Sands: *calmly makes face reveal*
Edit: OHHH it’s just an actor nevermind dam I’m disappointed
I think odd1out did this
Yeah...that’s not him, that’s a body actor lol.
What if that's actually just your 'Mind's Eye' view of what you THINK he would look like if he did a face reveal?
@@petern.j.4121 well look at his reply on the top comment.
@@petern.j.4121 nvm it’s not top anymore.
My mind's eye feels like I'm seeing things but there's a layer of black or nothingness on top. I still process what's under it like it's there, but I don't "see" it. It's like that sight-blindness condition, where one technically cannot see, but can still process things like things in their way or holding up fingers. It's like that but it's in my mind and there's a lot of missing details and I can only focus on key points. I never quite identified with "thinking in words" like other aphants.
same, like i can picture my exact kitchen but i'm not literally seeing it as a picture in my head, there's just black. kinda like how you don't actually hear the music when you have a song in your head. at least i dont anyway
I got that, but I can’t remember dreams real well
Is it kinda like when you close your eyes and can't see your hand but you know roughly here its and how it is without touching it?
Finally, this comment and it's replies eased my anxiety. I thought it was just me who imagined things like they were fuzzy, grayed out silhouettes. It's kindof spooky. Like, I can imagine a red car, but I don't actually see it, I just... Know it's there. I can imagine the concept of a red car, but I can't actually see it. It's just black, but I have the concept in my mind, so I "see" it.
Yes this comment here, I can think about what I want, its as if its there right infront of me but its all just black.
when I was really little, like maybe 7-10 years old, I used to imagine swinging on a swing set, and i for some reason just could not picture a fluid, back-and-forth motion. I would swing forward and then it would just cut to being at the bottom swinging forwards. I think I was focusing so hard on *not* visualizing it that it became what I was imagining. this was in my mind for *years* and at some point, i was able to visualize things easily. in fact, I think my imagination has gotten exceptionally strong now, even compared to outgrowing the swingset thing. I can vividly remember how it used to be like through all the "states of progression" so I think i have an idea of how someone on the lower end of the imagination spectrum thinks.
_"Imagination is a powerful tool. It can tint the memories of the past, shapes the perception of the present, or paint the future so vivid that it can entice... or terrify, all depending upon how we conduct ourselves today."_ *(Garfield: Halloween 1985)*
“Bullets won’t work anymore, Jon”
Dude I’ve had the sea shanty from that in my head for around 5 years.
i ate those food
And some people think that was intended to be the last comic
lsaga
Just imagine people with that disorder trying to pass an 'Im not a robot' test.
Omg
Agnosia is not a disorder per se! But it instead is a result of a brain lesion in a very specific area. So unless you plan to lesion your brain, you should be pretty safe :')
@@lasolady You make a point. Premise is nonetheless still funny yet unfortunate.
Maybe I am the robot.
Imagine believing you might be a robot
Solar Sands looks like a 80's disco hippie crossed with a emo
like a grunge beatnik
It's a look tho
Thank you Ethan
he looks like lou reed LOL
Disco was in the late 60s-70s. The style of the 80s wasn't anything close to Disco influence
i have hypophantasia (like aphantasia, but i have a small ability to visually imagine something). when i ‘see’ something in my mind, i get parts of a whole in some blurry messed up shape. if i think of an event, it’s usually myself describing each movement. i can dream, and i dream extremely vividly, but when i wake up everything is gone, no matter if it was a good dream, a lucid dream or a nightmare. it sucks, and i’ve had to get my friends to relay information such as simple directions to somewhere, who a person i’ve seen regularly or just let is, or who a character in a movie is if they are in a common uniform within the film. i cannot draw without tracing, or making key marks and constantly moving everything around, so i do exclusively digital art to draw. i am a quite creative person, but in very word-based subjects (such as creative free-righting).
As an artist with aphantasia, I really appreciate this video so much. All my life until 2 years ago I told myself that I couldn't be a painter or illustrator because it was so difficult for me to capture anything really "original" in my mind that wasn't heavily abstract. I see nothing, but I feel everything. If something looks off, I "see" it right away and constantly bend/change it to the point where some sort of 6th sense tells me it looks fine and to leave it at that. It really comes down to adapting with your skills and creating what's suited best for you. For me, I focus on landscapes and photographs because my concrete spatial awareness with reality is a lot easier for me to translate on a canvas. I don't think I could ever be a concept artist or a character designer based on my setbacks, but I'm just me, and I'm pretty ok with that.
I can’t imagine not being able to imagine things, it’s funny.
I don't have aphantasia, but I have a very poor imagination (everything is blurry and shapes/colours just kind of appear, I have little to no control over them), and for the longest time had no idea that imagination was such a big spectrum. I didn't understand why some artists can draw a perfect face right away, while others need lots of help lines. my sketches are an absolute mess because I can't visualise the right placement for something until I see it on paper. I thought that just meant I was a shitty artist, but it turns out I'm just working around some extra challenges. I never know how a piece will turn out until I paint it, and sometimes that's actually pretty cool.
As an aside, character design is, oddly enough, one of my strengths. I can't visualise details, but I know which details make a character look a certain way.
I recently found out when my kindergarten teacher would say “imagine it in your head while I’m reading” wasn’t just a metaphor. You described dreaming perfectly by the way, that’s exactly how I dream.
Yep, exactly.
I recently found out that not everybody has the ability to accurately visualize things in their mind regardless if they had ever experienced those things beforehand.
I guess I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum here.
Me : He's gonna talk about Ivan Seal isn't h... HE JUST FACE REVEALED OH MY GOD
What do you mean a face reveal, it’s just a stock video of a person in a closet
Yeah bro what ur talking about
haha it took mw a minute to relize it was fim
IVAN SEAL FAN WASSUP
its not hik
I beleive I have hyperphantasia, or atleast some form of it. I can imagine a person sitting next to me as vividly as if they were really there, and sometimes I get so lost in vivid imagery in my mind its hard to realise something I'm imagining isn't actually there. The only issue is I struggle greatly with geography. I forget places I've been 3 weeks ago and cant remember them other than by imaging where I am now and picturing myself walking left and right until I reach the place. This usually frustrates people quite a bit
AHHHH WTF HE HAS A FACE AND ITS NOT AN HOURGLASS AHHHHH
NOO DAY RUINED
In my thoughts he still looks like an hour glass. Boom video solved
I thought you died on June 28th
The glasses just hide the hourglass.
thank you archduke franz ferdinand
i feel like i have the opposite of aphantansia...multiple times i have thought that a movie existed, when in reality it was just a book i read as a child and imagined in my head.
hyperphantasia?
I had this happen to me the other day
@@tudorcris4953 i think they're more meaning that their imagination is SO vivid and powerful that they were able to visualize a book so clearly it looked like a movie. not just "misremembering".
@@tudorcris4953 lmao
Same thing has happened to me, and I was wondering the same as you. But I don’t feel like I have the greatest of imaginations
My mind eye is blurry, and also scrambled when trying to imagine the entire image. I don't really remember things by only an image, especially people or drawing. I recognize people by their voice and their odor better than their visual. I also remember how I draw by muscle memory and simple gradient or shading, combined with my blurry imagination. Imagining only part of an image also did help a lot.
Same
Interesting, I think I recognize things and people by smell very rarely.
I draw a lot but my brain still thinks slow so i can only see lines I have to focus to see the full image
I have been reflecting on a similar subject for two decades, in regards to music. As a composer of classical music, I often have dreams in which I enjoy listening to music, often through speakers or headphones, except... this music had never been written before! my mind composes it live, layers upon layers of beautifully orchestrated parts, in the most vivid way possible.
When I wake up, this ability to auralize original music seems to vanish as if it never existed. I can play recorded opuses entirely from beginning to end (and I often do), but new music? that's a whole different story. The mind works in mysterious ways... and like a good scientist, I will continue to catch that elusive particle until I find it!
I went from “Holy shit this aphantasia shit sounds crazy” to “damn I can’t see the apple in my head WHY CAN’T I SEE THE APPLE IN MY HEAD”
Dam you might wanna get that checked out
DUDE SAME I JUST SEE SOME BLURRY ASS FUCKING SHIT AND I CAN BARELY PICTYRE IT WHATDUENGJWJND
@@pomorosea I literally see a like a red circle with a stem and that’s the most detail I can see
because you are NPC
Aphantasia isn't all that rare in my experience.
Hey. I'm glad that you basically became the VSauce of weird art and how the brain thinks creatively. I remember when you used to do cringe videos of deviantart pictures, but I'm glad you're doing something that opens others minds and makes us think differently. That being said, I really hope you are enjoying this new direction as much as I am. I wouldn't want you doing this if it stresses you out.
I remember when I was part of the animation meme community in like 2017-2018 and hed critique it them, and now his content has evolved and this is still my fav channel
19:46 Look at that future Vsauce.. hmmm lol
i preferred the old one
“As you can see the result is frankly, nightmarish.” no,,, that’s pretty spot on for me! This is really cool.
Yeah, dark, blurry shapes are about all I can do.
Yeah I can only get an image for like a split second. I can’t visualize anything but a single frame. Nothing moving. Just single images at a time. I’ve always wondered about jt
@@buldg560 since i draw some i try to rotate objects in my imagination often i also find it relaxing but even then trying to move something other then simple shapes is difficult
It's also spot on to me, I'ma go a little big brain-ish here and possibly cringe for most (also in person I'm just a normal guy, not as weird I speak just explaining for context), but from what I noticed the experience depends on the person and their personality type plus their life experiences since birth. I personally remember as a kid playing with pencils as toys which was weird to my family and later as I grew up I realized that I uniquely did that because I was very imaginative in a way that writing, drawing or painting wouldn't satisfy my creativity and when I tried to imagine the characters and the universe I had created in my mind (I basically had my own personal anime world in my head albeit influenced by real anime like dbz and etc.), the details would pop up in my head vividly and vaguely with not even words or drawings to describe it to my parents. Then again I think that's also more commonly an introverted thing?
I can vividly imagine things with their complete and accurate physical properties. I can even visualize the intricate details of gears and pistons and "render" an animation in my mind, simulating the mechanics to see if the gears turn smoothly or if they encounter too much friction. I created my first machines using my imagination when I was just three or four years old. Many of the inventions I later detailed on paper eventually became a reality, though not by my doing, because I lack the financial means. For example, I envisioned an electromagnet-powered levitating train similar to the one in Japan before I knew it existed. However, my version operated in a vacuum tube to minimize air resistance at high speeds and featured doors that would align with the tube using suction. A computer program would facilitate this by automatically initiating a docking procedure. All these ideas came to me when I was just 14 or 15 years old. Now, at 25, I am planning to start my own businesses after college.
this guy is just vsauce but he stays on a single topic
You realize vsauce wasn't the first person to make video essays / research interesting topics and give a speech about it, right?
@@letrollface3831 it doesn’t matter
@@letrollface3831 is just a joke, that for more people to understand it, he needs to use a person most people might know.
I mean, I'm not subscribe to Vsause but I have seen his video.
If he had used {insert someone else} less people will get the joke.
@@letrollface3831 of course someone like you had to pop in here. Get some rest and get out of your crabby mood.
@@letrollface3831 but vsauce does it best
Solar Sands : Shows his face
Me : I'm just going to ignore that and act like as if he's an hourglass
Funny
Me too.
the question at minute 5, i have aphantasia and that is exactly how i "imagine" stuff in my head, i just understand it, the information about it is all i need.
Can confirm
same ☝️😳
Exactly
I only found out I have this last night talking to my gf I’m shook my imagination is black my imagination is just hear my inner monologue talking
If you imagine a new train design you came up with traveling into a tunnel, how do you make sure the design in your mind will fit into the tunnel? How do you see that it does not touch the sides and get stuck? If you use information, what is that information? Is it just words that say that it fits? Can you imagine the scale between two objects, the monumentality between two things, and if it is just information, how is it presented, is it words or is it speech, can you say the speech out loud or do you just know.
I can imagine things quite vividly, in fact when I was younger I took some "photographs" of things and put in quite an effort to never forget the image in my mind. It's been so long that I have forgotten most of the detail of the original image, but I can still remember them.
I also do understand the idea of knowing something in your mind but never actually taking the time to visualise it. I just wonder, if you can't visualise it, are you less capable of doing things like the train test?
I have aphantasia and I experience the world through my senses mostly. I can remember smells, sounds and feelings so deeply that it can be debilitating sometimes. I have so much to say about this topic and I hope more discoveries are found in this field!
As someone with intrusive thoughts this shit *horrifies* me. I have such a bad fear of being incarcerated for a crime I didn’t commit just because a scan of my brain picked up a thought I had saying I did said crime whilst in reality I didn’t.
Probably a useless phobia, but a really concerning phobia to myself nonetheless.
False accusations happen all the time, the lack of evidence when performing prosecutions are often place
It really isnt a bad phobia, because people have used far more stupid things like lie detectors to find guilty cases
You just described one of the plot points in the show Pyscho Pass. One of the secondary characters reveals how he was arrested as a child for having a high chance of committing crimes after a routine brain scan by the monitors placed throughout the city.
‘we’ve read his mind and it’s full of horrific murders of people he worked with years ago, lock him up’
@@onemorechris why
Maybe the "face reveal" is just our imagination of how he looks
😳
But im seeing him in my imagination as hourglass in the middle of desert
As someone who's going slowly blind, I actually had to develop my visual memory skills. Even down to details like the distance between srairs so I don't fall over.
F
:’(
I hope you're doing alright despite that :)
Man, that's awful. Hope you feel better and that you are able to have a happy life. Have faith, bro. God bless you, friend! :)
Hey I'm in the same boat with losing my vision slowly. Since you're also watching solar sands I'm gonna assume you also like art/doing art. Keep that spirit alive and hope you're doing well. Take some orientation and mobility lessons if you're not already. smart to keep up the visual memory. Take care, peace
This is an INCREDIBLY interesting and even somewhat creepy topic. What really goes on within the minds eye of any one person? I think part of the problem with imagination is that there is a part of the brain that is producing the imagine and a part of the brain that judges what we're imagining. As long as the part of the brain doing the judging is OK with the image we produced, we stop imagining the image. The judgement part of the brain is not exclusively using the visual information we produce to confirm the conceptualization of an object. There an abstract idea apart from simple visual information that helps us to crystalize the ideas we are thinking about things in general so. The visual part is kind the cherry on top when it comes to most thoughts and isn't necessarily required. The image produced doesn't need to be perfect for us to be satisfied with the results. The judging part just needs to OK it then it move on since most ideas flow from one to another so quickly. Most of us take too much time to produce a photorealistic image .In other words, a friend might ask me to remember a woman at the mall we both had seen. I might perfectly recall and display an image of that woman in my mind or imagine a stick figure, or even something else entirely like a clown. As long as the judgement part of my brain confirms that I understand what woman my friend was referring to, I will be satisficed and move on to other ideas and images related to a fluid conversation. As you can tell, I have a problem when conceptualizing what words to use when describing things, but I digress.
First time seeing Solar Sans's face. It feels wrong, like I've seen something i wasn't supposed to see. I'm not upset tho ! What a lad :D
solar *sans*
solar sans
i was just like
woah he has a face
Now I want to see a face cam version of the video where he raged to diaper fetish art from deviantART. :D
solar sans
Am I the only here getting scared while trying to picture something in their mind and can't do it because you are trying so hard?
Same with me.
SAME
lmao absolutely. I was never this stressed out by thinking of a still apple on a table
you're not, I'm really good at this, and now I fear losing it because of self-consciousness
I can do it effortlessly :/
everyone that has drawn fanart of him with brown hair is going mad rn
@嘉嘉 you callin the man ugly?
isn't his hair just dark brown?
His hair is dark brown though
@@t.n.21 Ah but you see, thanks to my patchy and unreliable memory, I remembered that brown technically doesn’t exist since it’s just a weird shade of yellow.
@@AmphiStuG brown can range from being dark orange to dark yellow. But most times brown is just a dark orange.
I've got aphantasia and draw, and also have a few artist friends who have it as well. Everyone I've spoken with at least agrees it's more like having such a strong concept of what you want that it's equivalent to seeing it. It's hard to explain, but it's similar to how you feel when someone asks "what's the first thing you think of when I say X?". That very strong correlation. Sometimes I get flashes of ideas- fast just like a camera flash, and other times I have more of a spatial sense. Like, I want lines to occupy this space on the canvas.