$9 or $900, what would you pay for a box joint jig?
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- Опубліковано 16 лют 2024
- $9AUD Single Blade Box Joint Jig - Get yourself plans, (and help support my channel), to build the easiest to use boxjoint jig in the entire universe! www.thewoodfather.com/
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Check this video where I explain more about it: • EASY Box Joints and NO...
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Hello everyone! Exactly what it says on the cover, this video is me pitting my self designed tablesaw box joint jig named #WoodfathersJig against the very high quality and pricey router table jig, the Incra LS Positioner. I had a great time putting this one together, hopefully it helps show what you can do.
Just an fyi, the only rule I set myself was that I was only allowed to make one joint on each jig, and then straight from jig to glue up. Both joints can be cleaned up with handtools and finessed before glueup, in which case both jigs would be able to produce perfect joints. For this video I didn't do any cleanup at all, straight from jig to glue, to see what you get out of the box. - Навчання та стиль
After watching a bunch of UA-cam box joint videos, I sketched up a plan based on your original video. Then I opted to buy your plans which greatly simplified the process. Your jig is still the best shop made design I’ve seen. I made mine from repurposed redwood and teak plywood, it’s a beauty and it cuts perfect box joints.
From redwood and then teak plywood, your jig will look nicer than my finished projects! 😄 Sounds fantastic, if you have time one day flick the photos through to my email or tag me on insta, would love to see it! 👍
I bought the plans and made mine in 1 1/2 hrs. Never been able to get anywhere near the quality I got with this jig. Love it.
Now to make more boxes.
Cheers Phil, that's awesome to hear, and yeah, go make some boxes! 😜
I build your jig a few months ago. Went a bit high end with the materials but didn't cost my anything as it was stuff i had laying around. Totaly love the jig. Works great!.
That's awesome to hear, I'm glad it worked for you! Cheers!
Wood Father's Jig is one of the best inventions I saw on UA-cam. I think the idea worth much more than $900.
ahh that's awesome, many thanks!
Like a lot of hobby woodworkers, I’m on a budget, so in my books your jig wins hands down! It gives great results,is easier to set up and the pattern( finger size, spacing and the ease of varying these variables😊)is visible before you cut anything, makes this a winner!
That's a great comment Cyril, thanks so much. I'm very lucky to have multiple tools and options in my workshop these days, but the only reason I do, is because I spent the last two decades with a strict woodworking budget as well. 😄 So yep, I know exactly what you mean, the budget option for me almost always wins out. It's great to know that that doesn't mean you have to compromise on quality at the same time though!
I’ve made your jig and I use a flat top grind blade and the joints are perfect so when you’re comparison you just need to get a flat top grind blade. ❤
That's the way to go, flat top blade for the win :)
I just realised that you hit 20k subs. Well done, mate! 🎉
Many thanks Gene, yep, happened a couple weeks ago, and I've barely been able to log onto youtube since 😄 Busy at work lately. Fingers crossed for the easter break, I should be able to get some time in. 👍
The Woodfather's jig is one of the few jigs for which I've bought plans. The concept is brilliant and I've got a FTG blade for use with it and general grooving on the table saw.
That's so cool to hear, glad it works for you 👍
Brilliant Mario, I bought this Mario woodfather jig about two years ago and this has inspired me to actually pull my finger out and build it.
lol cheers Karl, you'd probably handcut them nicer though 😄
Hi Mario i bought your plans a couple of years ago made the jig very pleased with it. I did buy the Torquata flat top blade from Timbercon at the same time lovely smooth looking joints made a few smallboxes. I plan to make some tool storage boxes soon but other projects keep jumping in front of it. Enjoyed the video go the blues this is the year for them. Steve.
Cheers Steve, you're 100% correct...this is the year for the blues! 😉💙💙💙
Great video mate! Loving this jig!
Cheers Tom, it's a keeper I reckon! 😁
what a great jig to add to the arsenal! tbh I would prefer the cost of $9 over $900, especially if you're only doing box joints once in a while!
Hah, yep, the price factor is a big one isn't it?! I know that's pretty much how I see the world, "I need the cheap version please!", but it's nice to see that it doesn't mean you have to compromise on quality here! 👍
9.00 bucks for the win mate and well done on the edit….very impressed!! 👍👍🤯
Cheers Shane, little bit silly in parts, but hey, I'm a little bit silly in parts too 😆
@@woodfather You did good young man 👍 One part that really resonated was when you mentioned how the Plan was downloaded 20,000 times when it was free!! Along the same vane, when l made a router table for one of Jame's Challenges, the Plan l offered for free was downloaded over 700 times in the first two days then l realised that l had made a major mistake with one of the measurements which meant that l had to personally reply to all those 700 plus people who downloaded it! Took me a couple of days!! 😂
Even though I could have easily built your jig just off watching the video you made for it,but since it made my life infinitely easier I bought the plans. As I’m just starting my business up I’m going through the growing pains, but I make jewelry boxes for quick easy money and the jig has made it easier and faster by leaps and bounds.
Cheers Joe, very much appreciated and I'm glad it has helped. Feel free to share some photos over, always like seeing what people can come up with! 👍
As you said, FTB and the joint actually would look as perfect, so wood father's jig is the winner.
Thanks Damian, the Incra can do so much more than mine so I'm definitely not upset about losing, but you're right, do it the right way and the final joints will be indistinguishable!
Hey, I had that same old table saw until recently. Yes, it was terrible, specially if you wanted to cut on an angle (you tilt the table, not the blade!).
I replaced it recently with a jobsite saw that, thanks in part to inflation, cost a lot more than your $900 saw. (The other reason for the higher cost was that it was the SawStop CTS.)
I'm not into making boxes or using box joints (yet), but I'll definitely want to keep your jig in mind if/when that happens.
Oh wow, well done on perservering with it for so long, but congratulations on the new one. They're worlds apart, that old Ozito tablesaw and _any_ other saw on the market, worlds apart!
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I've not been a regular woodworker, more just handyman stuff around the house, although I'm getting into it more now.
One thing I used it for was cutting pavers, after putting a masonry-cutting disk in it. I wouldn't do that with my new saw!
"Best" is always one of those things that depends on what is important to the person doing the evaluation. Given the criteria you listed the Wood Father Jig came out "best" in all but one criteria.
In terms of joint quality you are mostly measuring the quality of the thing doing the cutting and not the jig. What little effect the jig has on the quality is mostly a matter of setup since both can be dialed in to give whatever tightness of fit you desire. Even there the Wood Father jig could be considered easier since you are just changing the size of the key and that is done just once per cutter.
Thank you very much, and you're absolutely correct. 'Best' is always subjective, I could probably do this video over and end up flipping the ratings around, and yet still find a way to justify those answers based on the criteria! Thanks so much for watching and commenting, cheers, Mario 👍
At work, can't watch yet, but that thumb is lit 🔥
Oh and uncle Knackers will be proud of the hat 😂
that's what it's all about 😆
@@woodfather ok it took a few night shifts to catch up to this point but well worth the wait. Great video, I can see why it's doing so well. Hopefully it's spun the next 20k sales... 😁😁
After saying I can build this JIG I CAN BUILD THIS JIG, I finally decided to get the plans, now I know I am an idiot... for waiting so long to buy the plans. Can't wait to build it.
I can't wait for you to build it either 😆 Best of luck! 👍
Very cool- thanks for sharing 👍 where can I get the plans for this
Cheers and thanks! You can get them from www.thewoodfather.com or there should be a little shop shelf dealie just under the video I think 😁
Nice!!!!!
hah, cheers James 👍
Hi, I like it. Any reason why I could not use it on my router table with a key the same diameter as the router bit maybe a 4 mm upcut spiral bit that should go through the wood easily. Cheers Tom
Hi Tom, no real reason, you'd just have to modify it slightly to better suit a router table. I've had a few people mention that recently, so I think I might just do that. 👍
Great video and I’d really get a squared blade for the table saw, then the joints would be perfect.
I used to have one, but then I drove it right through an old (hidden) nail one day and that was the end of that blade. 😆 You're right though, I'll look to pick one up soon. 👍
I’m here for th woodfather not his jig 😂 great film Mario! Love a rando movie quote to finish too
ahahah, it's bit dumb but barely anyway watches the last few seconds so I chanced it! 😆 I was going to put Rocky's theme over it as well but figured I'd get a copyright strike within seconds 😆
$9 all day every day! Take care & stay safe M8.
Cheers Doug, love to hear it 😆
Hands down the $9.00 jig. 👍 Think of all the other stuff you could buy with $891.00 😂 like a couple of sheets of half decent ply.
Hi Ged, a couple sheets, lol that's about right 😆
It would seem that this Jig could be modified to work on a router table...or am I mistaken?. It would appear that the router gives a slight edge on the finish of the fingers and recesses.
It certainly can be. Originally I made it specifically for the tablesaw, but I've had a lot of people ask about a router table version, so I think I'll look into that very soon too. :)
I'm disappointed to think that all this time I have been following an un reputable wood worker. I still think yours is pretty good though. Cheers John
Sorry John, I'll go delete my channel now... 😆👍
It a great jig mate, woulda shoulda coulda , but when you redesign it don’t forget to charge for plans…. I would prefer yours over the Incra any day of the week. 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
hah, cheers man, the Incra does do some cool stuff that mine can't, but yep, you pay a pretty penny for that!
I think you weren’t fair in the comparison. With that flat top blade, you would have been a clear winner, even if the quality score was a draw :)
Nice job on the jig!!
ahahaha, then probably people would accuse me of cheating or stacking the odds in my favour 😆 I reckon for boxjoints, woodfathersjig is more than up to the task, but as the Incra does sooooo much more than that, I'm ok with coming in second. :)
I've heard amazing things about those Incra jigs, but it really didn't seem like a class above
Cheeers Robin but don't get me wrong, the Incra is _amazing_ for dovetail joinery. But for 'just' box joints, it's probably overkill. 😉
Mario, get yourself a good quality flat tooth blade. You'll never regret it and the quality of the box joints is then pretty much perfect. I got an Opteon from my local saw sharpening store. Brilliant quality which I reckon makes the difference.
Opteon? I'll check them out, I don't think I've heard of them before. You're right Rob, a flat tooth blade is vastly better. I did used to use one...until I drove it through a nail when cutting an old reclaimed board. Blade was ruined, but hey, at least the sparks looked cool... 😆
Interesting. I think I'll go for the ......... $9 jig. Just need to finish mine. Good comparison though, and I think people will still go for the Woodfathers Jig instead of the Incra one. 👍
Ahahaaha, cheers, but come on Chris, you'll buy both, you know it. 😆
I don’t believe Chris doesn’t already have two incras 😂
@@DownUnderWoodWorks I already have the Incra Mitre Guide, the Incra iBox Jig and the Incra LS Positioner Table Saw Fence System. I think I'm covered. 🤨🤣
Maaate, when I saw that photo of the old prototype jig that you gave to me and I’ve since thrown out, I felt very sad and sorry 😢
ahahaaha, it's all good man, I honestly lost count of how many times I've made and destroyed versions of this jig over the years! But hell, I may as well do my Indiana Jones impression: "It belongs in a museum!" 🤠
Onya Mario 🇦🇺👍🍺
Dirka dirka, good to hear from ya! 👍
Hi, I paid for the plans for your box joint jig, but when I clicked download I got an ad & never got to the plans. I tried contacting you using the form on your website and when I hit submit I get an error to enter my email address, which I did about 100 times. I tried contacting you through the UA-cam email & it won't go through. Can I either get the plans or get a refund? This is really frustrating because the jig looks awesome, but I paid for nothing.
Hi Maddie, crazy stuff, it isn't mean to be that hard! Can you give me part of your email, or the order number etc? I've had a look but I don't see any order that matches your youtube name sorry, more than happy to make it right, just need to know who you are first sorry! You can email me: woodfather@thewoodfather.com too 👍
Thanks! I'll send you an email. Maddie is my UA-cam alias. @@woodfather
I call bulls#$&. Woodfathers Jig all the way.
😆 Rigged! Fake News! I demand a recount! 😜
I posted the video on my channel going over my box jointing jig but it hasn't gotten many views yet😢
UA-cam can be a mean mistress sometimes! Send a link over, I don't see it on the chan! 👍
@@woodfather derp. It was still set to unlisted. ua-cam.com/video/kIxeBCkhpEE/v-deo.html
@@woodfatherderp, i had it on unlisted and didn't realize it. I've fixed it now... I think.
@@KillerSpud ahahaha, if it makes you feel any better, I uploaded two versions of this video with a very slight change to the ending.....and I enabled the wrong one 😆
Wood Father’s Jig
Plus I now have $891 to buy high quality wood for my projects 🤔
That's a beautiful way of thinking about it!
This was Flabby Rocky vs Clubber Layne. Invest in that flat-tooth blade to make it a fair fight.
Yep, I was tempted to buy a flat tooth blade to help it look even cleaner off the jig, but wanted to replicate what people would see if they bought and built this. Most people, (the first time they use this jig at least), use any regular old blade that they already have. Cheers Jim 👍
@@woodfather Fair enough. I'll keep my $891. Good video. Great jig.
@@woodfathermany of us have FTBs anyway...... So woodfather for the win.
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If you factor in the price of the table saw and router table... 🤔🤣
hah, ok, but then the Incra clocks in around the $2500 mark, so I'm still great value 😜
@@woodfather That's what I thought!
A router table fence is not a jig
True, but the "Incra LS Table Saw Fence System" is simply too wordy. "Jig" gets the point across even if not 100% the best adjective. 🤷♂️