Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna | Used Minivan Comparison | Price, MPG, Comfort & More

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  • Опубліковано 22 чер 2024
  • The Toyota Sienna and Honda Odyssey are two of the best and highest-rated used minivans available. Either one would be a great choice for your next family hauler, but which one should you buy? In this video, Ryan ZumMallen from Edmunds breaks down each of these used minivans to help you decide whether the Sienna or the Odyssey is the right choice for you and your lifestyle. Ryan covers unique features, drivability, ride comfort, and a whole lot more. It's our used minivan comparison test of the 2019 Honda Odyssey EX-L vs. 2020 Toyota Sienna XLE.
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    Intro - 00:00
    Odyssey Intro - 01:05
    Odyssey Price - 01:20
    Sienna Intro - 01:30
    Sienna Price - 01:46
    Odyssey Interior - 02:05
    Sienna Interior - 03:51
    Interior Wrap Up - 05:34
    Odyssey On The Road - 06:07
    Odyssey Engine - 06:14
    Sienna On The Road - 07:10
    Sienna Engine - 07:18
    On The Road Wrap Up - 08:24
    Odyssey Space/Fuel - 08:57
    Odyssey Cargo - 09:33
    Odyssey Fuel Economy - 10:00
    Sienna Space/Fuel - 10:20
    Sienna Cargo - 10:49
    Sienna Fuel Economy - 11:15
    Space/Fuel Wrap Up - 11:29
    Conclusion - 11:57
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  • @CarMax
    @CarMax  2 роки тому +5

    Would you rather have an Odyssey or a Sienna? Read our full article here: www.carmax.com/articles/honda-odyssey-vs-toyota-sienna-comparison

    • @NateClay
      @NateClay Рік тому +4

      I'd rather have one priced closer to fair market value. I'm not paying new car prices for a used car... just because you cleaned it?

    • @MatyasArby
      @MatyasArby 7 місяців тому

      Why are CarMax prices so high?

    • @realnapster1522
      @realnapster1522 5 місяців тому +1

      What this video does not mention is that Odyssey is based on a light truck chassis (same as ridge line). It’s a big boy and a very safe vehicle. You can watch NHTSA crash test ratings. Odyssey is much much safer and also drives better. Almost like a big sedan. That’s why it’s a better drivers car and safer too.

    • @nuhanjie8041
      @nuhanjie8041 5 місяців тому

      ​@@NateClay❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😂❤ 9:20 cqw m

    • @jeffsond
      @jeffsond 3 місяці тому +1

      I owned a 2009 odyssey and it was as very good except having to change the belt, water pump and tensioner every 100,000. We had 266,000 miles when it was totaled. The back 3 cylinders started burning oil at 200,000. Occasionally an issue with the slider doors but lube took care of that. I was ready to purchase a used Sienna 2016-18 but after watching a Toyota mechanic who is extremely knowledgeable with the Sienna, I’m looking for another Odyssey. I do hate the squatty suv interior of the Odyssey but I will deal with that. The 3.5l v6 sienna has oil leak issues that can get quite expensive. Cooling leak issues along with water pump, head gasket leak issues…. No thanks.

  • @nld0947
    @nld0947 2 роки тому +136

    What most people don't know the difference between these two minivans are the long term maintenance costs. Honda Odyssey uses timing belt and it requires to replace it every 90-100k miles and probably needs to clean the engine valves periodically because of direct injection only engine. Otherwise, it will have serious performance issues in the long run. In addition, both of the maintenances aren't cheap either. While the Sienna has the timing chain (never need to replace it) and it has dual injections (port/direct) and will never need to clean. The choice is clear for me.

    • @realnapster1522
      @realnapster1522 2 роки тому +17

      Honda does not need valve cleaning for direct injection if you used good quality oil and refilled it at 5K interval. Honda engines are not the problem. It’s the transmission that is the weak point. 10 speed is a better transmission than 9 speed. Unfortunately they used 9 speed for lower trims. Honda should have used 10 speed in all trims.

    • @realnapster1522
      @realnapster1522 2 роки тому +7

      Honda needs to be driven aggressively and taken care of. It lasts. But Toyota is overall more reliable. But I have seen reports of transmission issues with Sienna as well.

    • @iamtherjp
      @iamtherjp 2 роки тому +22

      What this person said abethe odyssey is not true. I have a 2005 Honda odyssey touring I am the original owner.. I've had zero issues. I'm actually on a waiting list for the 2022 odyssey elite and I will only buy odyssey. I hate the sienna interior, ugly.

    • @MyThougths
      @MyThougths 2 роки тому +5

      Best comment ever! Thank you for sharing this knowledge ... now I know what to buy!!

    • @dwilsonjr78
      @dwilsonjr78 Рік тому +5

      Good news is that Honda got rid of the 9 speed automatic in the Odyssey in 2020. Starting from 2020-up, the 10 speed automatic is standard on all Odyssey trims.

  • @clee8172
    @clee8172 Рік тому +32

    I've owned both odyssey (gen 2) and sienna (gen 1), hand me downs). I'm automotively inclined and do a lot of the upkeep maintenance and repairs myself. With my growing family (4 kids), for me the Sienna is hands down the better choice. The odyssey transmission issues (across multiple gens, paint longevity across multiple gens (prone to rust quickly around the body panel corners. I live in the Midwest), and overall more costly maintenance (engine timing belt vs sienna chain). Both vehicles are solid and can go above 200k miles but the overall reliability/easy of repairs of the sienna, and design decisions that the automaker down selected on (odyssey engine belt vs Sienna chain, odyssey FWD vs sienna AWD, odyssey interference engine vs. sienna non-interference engine, etc.) did it for me (just pulled the trigger on a used gen 3 AWD sienna (2011-2020 model) after months of consideration.

  • @goliathstanggt5004
    @goliathstanggt5004 Рік тому +17

    Toyota knows how to keep it simple and great, Sienna for me

  • @tannerarmstrong1496
    @tannerarmstrong1496 11 місяців тому +9

    It's telling that in every minivan comparison video I've watched, everything is being compared to the Sienna. I've seen odessy vs sienna, carnival vs Sienna, pacifica vs sienna... all asking what's the best minivan. There is a reason the sienna is the bar everything else is measured by.

  • @danr8787
    @danr8787 11 місяців тому +8

    I own a Honda Accord for my wife and it’s been a great car. When I decided to get myself a minivan for the family both of these were on my radar. I ended up getting a 2018 Sienna and love it. The deciding factors for me were the odyssey only having 4.4” of ground clearance as I do some camping and have to take some two tracks to get back to my spot. I also like the Sienna having some technology that people say is dated. For me I’d rather have simpler things with physical buttons. Both were good choices but the Sienna fits my needs better and gotta love the Toyota reliability.

  • @naysoo6996
    @naysoo6996 2 роки тому +30

    In need of a minivan as family growing, these two are my options. After watching so many videos and research, went with Sienna.

    • @josephtaylor630
      @josephtaylor630 9 місяців тому

      Are you happy with your decision? I’m trying to decide myself.

    • @Omininc
      @Omininc 9 місяців тому

      I congrat you for taking the right decision

    • @realnapster1522
      @realnapster1522 3 дні тому

      Odyssey is overall safer and much more muscular has stronger frame.

  • @Ran-tj2wy
    @Ran-tj2wy Рік тому +13

    People just glaze right over the many problems Honda has these days. From the goofy transmission issues to the "great" infotainment system (except, it's not great at all) but you sure pay like it is, to the many electrical problems, crazy vacuum that works only when the van is started. The power sliding doors that just sort of glitch a little too much out of nowhere. "But it's a great car, it's a Honda!" I don't get it and on top of that, they still price the car it's absolutely perfect. Plus, a timing belt at a 100k?? Please, my Toyota, with a timing chain has only had breaks, tires and plugs at 180k. Rounding the corner with 315k and still going strong. My third Toyota. Not one problem. If you ask me, the Odyssey is not the Honda of days gone by. The styling is great but so is the Ram truck, but I wouldn't buy one of those either. Over it.

  • @fifafan909
    @fifafan909 2 роки тому +22

    The sienna is stronger and better

  • @alvingoodwin5730
    @alvingoodwin5730 Рік тому +11

    I own the 2019 odyssey..And it’s the best dam vehicle I have ever owned period

  • @divad4711
    @divad4711 2 роки тому +16

    To me I go to the Sienna!

  • @TOBYH
    @TOBYH Рік тому +13

    I JUST WATCHED 3 VIDEOS OF THE PROBLEMS WITH HONDA ODYSSEYS, JUST TYPE IT IN ABOVE, YOU'LL SEE
    THE ODYSSEY USED TO BE VERY RELIABLE, NOT NOW THOUGH, STAY AWAY FROM THE ODYSSEY IF YOU DON'T
    WANT PROBLEMS.BUY THE SIENNA, WE HAVE A 2012, NOTHING WRONG IN 67K MILES SO FAR.

    • @pinkfiffty3094
      @pinkfiffty3094 Рік тому

      Muzzle it if you can, I know the third gen you can, I would imagine you could with the 4th gen as well.

    • @pinkfiffty3094
      @pinkfiffty3094 Рік тому

      Also don't forget to do you atf fluid changes and don't let your oil changes go longer than they are supposed to, vcm engines are picky.

  • @robertovargas1823
    @robertovargas1823 9 місяців тому +4

    I prefer a Toyota Sienna, plus I have a 2016 Toyota Sienna, and I take very good care of it always . Love it. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👏🏻👏🏻🙌🏼🙌🏼🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷

  • @ededdie2902
    @ededdie2902 Рік тому +8

    Toyota reliability for the win

  • @Omininc
    @Omininc 9 місяців тому +1

    Nice comparison, I think I have a clearer panoramic view about these xcellents minivans. Thank you so much.

  • @thecarsectionthecarsection6420
    @thecarsectionthecarsection6420 Рік тому +12

    Well in bad weather I see dodge/chrysler van honda van and kia van struggling to get up hill in snowing conditions my toyota sienna limited awd goes with ease so if you live in the north east something to think about.

  • @nehemiahzakari8291
    @nehemiahzakari8291 Рік тому +8

    Sienna is better in my opinion

  • @speedbrd1
    @speedbrd1 11 місяців тому +3

    Just saw this video while researching a replacement for my 2013 Odyssey EX. This is our 3rd Ody, after a 2002, and a 2012 EX-L. It is my "work truck", with an incredible carrying capacity, able to take in kitchen cabinets, washer/dryers, sofas, 2x4s, doors and lots more. It is ideal for my property management job, but at 110k miles it's starting to crap out: A/C leaking refrigerant, small oil leak, intermittent electric side doors, etc. Leaning towards getting a 2019 or newer Odyssey but concerned about long term reliability. On the other hand I've driven a few rental Siennas and they feel plush and capable, but with a dated interior and a very weird 2nd row seat cushion angle (though I wont be the one sitting in them). Seems many people here lean towards the older Sienna, but I'm open to check out an used one from the newer generation.

  • @stephenyount2146
    @stephenyount2146 Рік тому +5

    I own a older Odyssey
    What I would rather have and what I should have are two different things.
    I would rather have the new Odyssey but what I should have is the Sienna.

  • @biffdanielson2820
    @biffdanielson2820 Рік тому +7

    I drove both before settling on the sienna. Honda just isn't what they used to be.

  • @oliverphippen1957
    @oliverphippen1957 Рік тому +9

    I have a 2015 Sienna that runs on gas -and the only problem I have is that the steering wheel is very sensitive and some times has me continually correction - I have driven it form Boston to Norfolk Va to Milwaukee several times and she was fine

  • @danhackett4199
    @danhackett4199 11 місяців тому +4

    I have a 2015 sienna and it’s been wonderful I looked at a new one 2023 and it’s smaller might just as well get a Lexus. I am keeping my old one.

    • @hosseinb82
      @hosseinb82 8 місяців тому

      did yo have any specific problem with 2015 sienna?

  • @prazoles4450
    @prazoles4450 Рік тому +8

    I have honda odyssey and it is parked because of weird electrical problems, transmission failure, and no ac

  • @PatelPresh
    @PatelPresh 2 роки тому +11

    11:00 how can the odyssey have more room behind the 1st row when the sienna 2nd row can go damn near all the way to the trunk??

  • @katiemurphy3601
    @katiemurphy3601 2 роки тому +10

    This is the video I need. We've been researching getting a minivan for our family of 5 for the past month and are stuck between these two car types.

    • @RainbowMama143
      @RainbowMama143 2 роки тому +8

      If most of them are in car seats GET THE ODYSSEY! It has 6 top tethers and 5 lower anchors. The Sienna only has 4 tether/anchor sets and one of them straddles 2 of the 3rd row seats (it’s a stupid design). The Odyssey is the most versatile when it comes to car seats!

    • @katiemurphy3601
      @katiemurphy3601 2 роки тому +7

      @@RainbowMama143 Thanks! We ended up going with the Odyssey! I really wanted to love the Sienna, but when we went to check it out at the dealership there were many things we couldn't get past. For one, my husband is tall and he barely fit in the Sienna with it all the way back. You shouldn't be able to fit in a Honda Accord (Our other car) more easily than a minivan.
      Odyssey is very spacious for the driver. And the biggest deciding factor was the very odd setup to get into the third row of the Sienna. It had a cup holder in the middle of the second row with no way to remove it. And the seats did not slide forward and back very easily, my 6-year-old definitely would not be able to do it herself. So the only two options are stepping over the cup holders or sliding the seats back and forth every time you access the third row, which does not make sense practically. Easy access to the third row is very important to me. The Honda odysseys magic slide seats that go horizontally as well as vertically was a deal-breaker! We have been very happy so far.

  • @alexanderyancey7670
    @alexanderyancey7670 Рік тому +2

    I just took a very long trip. Two people. We averaged 29.7 mpg over highways, mountains, a little in town and interstates. We also took a trip with two other adults for 1,800 miles and luggage for 4, all interstate, and averaged 29.5. We are very happy with the gas performance. Nowhere close to 22MPG except short in town driving.

    • @Tonyconner74
      @Tonyconner74 8 місяців тому +2

      U didn't say what minivan you have?.....

    • @alexanderyancey7670
      @alexanderyancey7670 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Tonyconner74 2022 Honda Odyssey

  • @josephmtavilalo5087
    @josephmtavilalo5087 Рік тому +3

    Dudes my dream is toyota sienna cause of availability of Spair parts in Africa en many people have it thus why business people need this

  • @RainbowMama143
    @RainbowMama143 2 роки тому +10

    You failed to mention that the Odyssey has 6 top tethers and 5 lower anchors (for car seats) while the Sienna only has 4 sets, with one of them awkwardly straddling 2 of the 3rd row positions (what a stupid design!). The Odyssey is easily the best for car seats!
    My only two pet peeves with the Odyssey are the stupid “paddles” behind the steering wheel to shift between gears manually (I accidentally hit them all the time and it drives me nuts!) and the fact that YOU CAN’T PUT THE CAR IN NEUTRAL WITH THE ENGINE OFF!!! If your engine/battery dies in an inconvenient location, you have no way to move your vehicle without having it towed or buying a $200 shifter tool that you have to hold in place and turn with the hood open while also pushing your car. My battery died and I couldn’t roll it out of my garage to jump it with my husband’s truck. Thankfully, we have a window and my husband was able to pull up next to it and we passed the jumper cables through the window. What if my engine died in the middle of the freeway? I’d be stuck with no way to move it to the shoulder! This makes me so angry!!! I watched the video because I’m considering switching to the Sienna due to this issue.

    • @68M35A2
      @68M35A2 Рік тому +2

      They make a $100 lithium jump start pack that stays charged for a year. Every car should have this from the factory. I’ve used them numerous times, even on V8 motors.

  • @tinhanh7cha
    @tinhanh7cha Рік тому +17

    the Honda transmission not last long , like sienna , i saw some sienna go up to 400.000km

  • @tripler3724
    @tripler3724 Рік тому +3

    Did the required research and went with the Sienna; love it. Hondas are really good also, just not right for me.

  • @superdave292
    @superdave292 Рік тому +5

    Sienna's second and third row seats are too short making your legs very tired on trips longer than 10 min. Don't believe what salespeople tell you. Believe in yourself.

  • @rickconn5293
    @rickconn5293 7 місяців тому

    I have the 2016 Toyota Sienna, and LOVE it, great fuel economy, huge cargo space, we fit in a full size couch to move it!

  • @realnapster1522
    @realnapster1522 2 роки тому +11

    This review is just full of complaints. You don’t buy a minivan for interior or amenities. You buy it to carry people and stuff comfortably. This is what audience wants to see.

    • @CrossroadToCountry
      @CrossroadToCountry 2 роки тому +6

      That's what interior and amenities are... comfortable space for people and stuff. Looks like he covered it pretty well. Although you could tell he was biased towards the Odyssey. I lean toward it as well. Love ours.

    • @stevenking3286
      @stevenking3286 2 роки тому

      Comfort is key when pleasing my wife.

    • @RainbowMama143
      @RainbowMama143 2 роки тому +4

      @@CrossroadToCountry I would’ve liked to see a better comparison of the car seat latch/anchor systems, show stuff like the number and location of charging ports, cup holders, etc, and a comparison of the safety features such a lane mitigation and radar.

    • @LilyAndBehold
      @LilyAndBehold Рік тому +1

      ​​@@CrossroadToCountryah. He definitely didn't cover what would have been the most important for me.
      I've been looking at these two vehicles, and he almost sold me on it. Glad I found MrsMoose comment - it sits carseats just like my grand caravan does, not enough anchors and 3rd row requires carsest to straddle the space of 2 places, which totally eliminates a whole extra passenger. I *need* all 8 seats, and I need to know where ALL the anchors & tethers are. Otherwise it's useless to me.

    • @realnapster1522
      @realnapster1522 5 місяців тому +1

      I own the Odyssey EX-L trim and the seats are very comfortable for long drive. Drivers seat has lumbar support and heated seats too. It’s an amazing road trip vehicle. And holding up well. 60K miles now on 2019 model.

  • @aTravelclips2223
    @aTravelclips2223 Рік тому +3

    honda already issued a recall to fix the infotainment system glitch. (pinched harness). its also 100% free. there goes your problem.

  • @smallnuts2
    @smallnuts2 2 роки тому +5

    I only trust Honda ATV and motorcycles. Toyota I trust in vehicles.

  • @richardgreene5119
    @richardgreene5119 4 місяці тому

    As a parent/grandparent who has owned both, the Honda Odyssey is best for safety, comfort, reliability & enjoyment. Drive both and you will see immediately the extra quality that Honda Odyssey is known for, esp. on cross country travels. Our grandkids know the difference!

  • @artur-vocal-saxo
    @artur-vocal-saxo Рік тому

    Czy jest możliwość ustawienia trzech foteli w drugim rzędzie?

  • @haydar378
    @haydar378 9 місяців тому +2

    Toyota reliability can’t ignore

  • @GracianoEMatos
    @GracianoEMatos 9 місяців тому +1

    I was going to get a Sienna but now I might change my mind.

  • @oleksandrmatyushyn6139
    @oleksandrmatyushyn6139 7 місяців тому +1

    Sienna hands down

  • @MercadoCarmelo
    @MercadoCarmelo 11 місяців тому +5

    Keep in mind toyota is #1 it last 😂😂

  • @realnapster1522
    @realnapster1522 5 місяців тому

    What this video does not mention is that Odyssey is based on a light truck chassis (same as ridge line). It’s a big boy and a very safe vehicle. You can watch NHTSA crash test ratings. Odyssey is much much safer and also drives better. Almost like a big sedan. That’s why it’s a better drivers car and safer too.

  • @flame7580
    @flame7580 2 місяці тому

    My dad has a 2003 Toyota sienna with 157k mile on it and a 2014 Toyota sienna with 129k miles and my grandpa had a 2004 odyssey but then it got totaled in a crash and now he has a 2013 Honda odyssey with 210k miles on it

  • @iosifkovalenko8364
    @iosifkovalenko8364 23 години тому

    Sienna standard ground clearance is 6.3”. Odyssey is 4.5”. But they look very similar. I prefer an odyssey mostly due to price and availability but afraid the odyssey will scrape going up my steep driveway. Has anybody compared real world ground clearance and departure angle of both?

  • @danparsons4944
    @danparsons4944 Рік тому +3

    Odyssey's transmission's are known to go bad

  • @jp6614
    @jp6614 11 місяців тому +1

    I've never figured out why fold flat seating, clearly neither has figured it out.

  • @diyi75
    @diyi75 10 місяців тому +1

    The Honda Odyssey shares a similar platform as the pilot, pilots have reliability issues. Plus the Toyota will last longer in the long run it has a timing chain not a belt.

  • @Robert-lr3wr
    @Robert-lr3wr 10 місяців тому +3

    Toyota is the best

  • @vicentediaz1872
    @vicentediaz1872 2 роки тому

    Well I would love both van,

  • @Zbek11
    @Zbek11 11 місяців тому +1

    Honda Odyssey is the best 👍😍

  • @RRRCCCDDD
    @RRRCCCDDD Рік тому +4

    Sienna AWD

  • @thomasfillmore5799
    @thomasfillmore5799 Рік тому +1

    not a good comparison. last of a generation compared the newest?? Odyssey and Sienna have always been one year apart on gens.. should be testing both 2021's

  • @philn1601
    @philn1601 8 місяців тому +1

    Buying used cars at Car Max is a big looser any way. only Carmax is the winner.

  • @mitsuoo1012
    @mitsuoo1012 2 місяці тому +1

    Sienna

  • @angellocoss4277
    @angellocoss4277 6 місяців тому +1

    Odyssey

  • @donavanrichards5792
    @donavanrichards5792 2 місяці тому

    Honda odyssey baby❤❤❤

  • @remivanwinden2174
    @remivanwinden2174 11 днів тому

    Toyota because it is much more resistant with a better resale value

  • @bradleybarron8086
    @bradleybarron8086 2 роки тому

    Good)

  • @bradleybarron8086
    @bradleybarron8086 2 роки тому

    Interesting).

  • @reyzapata9375
    @reyzapata9375 2 місяці тому

    Which one is more Reliable.?.
    I’m not into the Hybrid models. Nor, The EV Vans.!!!.

  • @skip70
    @skip70 2 місяці тому

    Dated tech means RELIABLE tech. 12:23

  • @egorlike1324
    @egorlike1324 3 місяці тому

    Weird conclusions from the video. Interior dimension and layout are the same. But I would take the simplicity of physical controls, better fuel economy and the comfy ride of the Sienna over Odyssey. Who cares how quickly a minivan can take a corner.

  • @iamtherjp
    @iamtherjp 2 роки тому +8

    Honda Odyssey always.. All the way

    • @stevenking3286
      @stevenking3286 2 роки тому

      Shopping for either, now it will be an odessy. Great video!

  • @TallVictorandmrgrimm1211
    @TallVictorandmrgrimm1211 2 роки тому +5

    Toyota interior is so blah 😒

  • @ronhoover5516
    @ronhoover5516 6 місяців тому

    Answer: Dodge Grand Caravan! Let the hate begin...

  • @masterloot
    @masterloot 4 місяці тому

    i ve watched so many horror stories on youtibe about both that both vans suck

  • @hassandawudi4810
    @hassandawudi4810 Рік тому

    Stop with the frog voices. When did men start to speak like that?

    • @Anufemeki_1
      @Anufemeki_1 22 дні тому

      One of the stupid things white people do.Tslking like they are running out of breath like the karthrashians

  • @jmaegm
    @jmaegm Місяць тому

    Worse terrible reviews from someone that's never owned one.