Nothing on the three things I value most: ride quality, sound level, and reliability. From our rentals, we found the Pacifica to be the most comfortable and quietist, but would not trust it for reliability (nearly every one we've rented has had problems). The Odyssey is a reliable car if you follow Honda's frequent maintenance rotation, and is the most fun to drive but the least comfortable and tied for nosiest. The Toyota will last forever and will need minimal work done, is boring to drive but comfortable, with average road noise. So: Pacifica is the best to rent, the Odyssey the best to borrow, and the Toyota the best to own.
Honda with their v6 all day. Honda v6 are reliable. Imagine if Odyssey come with awd will kill those toyota. Those garbage 4 cylinder in the toyota are garbage in the long run. I work for toyota and subaru
Thank you so very much for being straightforward and efficient with your video. I've been looking at the odyssey for a few weeks now, and there are many videos that run for 40-50 friggin minutes just to show the basics of an automobile. You not only got me in and out in less than 15 minutes, but you also compared 2 others in the same allotted time. I love efficient people.
@@1CrazyDudeYoCompare to my 2005 Honda Odyssey ( let alone newer one), the Pacifica has many obvious deficiencies after few days driving along CA highway: 1. Sloppy handing: on uneven road, the Pacifica has too much body movement/ sway that does not inspire fast driving 2. Lazy Automatic transmission: even with more gears, the Pacifica is very slow to downshift for ramp entry 3. Switch gears are clunky that betray low cost design 4. Acceleration is below average even though on paper the Pacifica 3.6L V6 has same horse power/ torque as the Honda This generation of Pacifica has similar behavior of the old Buick sedan or old Toyota Siena minivan
I just bought the 2024 Toyota Sienna xse and it’s been an amazing vehicle. I looked at the odyssey but after doing research notice theirs been several transmission recalls which made me hesitant in purchasing an odyssey. So decided the Toyota, they’ve definitely surpassed Honda in regards reliability these past few yrs.
We went with the odyssey for that bench, it can do everything, and my wife and the two rear facing seats all seat comfortably on it! Plus you can use the center seat as a park chair along with the tail gate mode
Basing fuel economy off a once in a blue moon road trip just isn't accurate. My 14 Escape with AWD and the 1.6 EcoBoost is rated at 22/29 and while I've seen 31 on a road trip, I'm seeing the lower number 99% of the time. High, and more importantly, consistent fuel economy that a hybrid offers seems so appealing.
Probably best bet is the Honda all around. Real world MPG is decent but reliable and Proven in Honda. Cheaper cost plus better space usage, better driving and Faster driving, simple proven 6 cylinder instead of contantly recalled turbos like Toyota. 2nd row bench seat much better Honda. And again its CHEAPER and dont have to worry about replacing expensive battery in the future. 🤔(Although I like some features in the Toyota plus mpg.)
Chrysler pacifica hybrid have 2021 a absolutely love it. I go anywhere between 750 and as much as 1000 miles between fillups. No other vehicle can come close to that. I do a lot of local driving so I'm able to plug it in usually 3 times a week overnight. If you don't have access to electrical outlet in your garage or do alot of long distance drives you of course would not get as good gas mileage. But even without great gas mileage very smooth quiet running vehicle with plenty of room and I think best looking of 3 vans...
@@80sBornWorrior I guess that's why Kia is the top reviewed champion with the Telluride. Doesn't matter, you have to include all the minivans when you're CarMax, even to say it's bad. At least mention it in the review.
I like the Pacifica non-hybrid version for its cargo space, and I like the power of the engine. I recently drove my sister's 2014 Chrysler Town & Country which has basically the same engine and it drove get. It also has the stow and go seating like the Pacifica, was is great for a trip where you want to bring a bed with you (sleeping in the mini van). My other sister has a Sienna and they are very nice too, but not what I would choose.
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I'm watching this like I could afford one... 😅 Driving a 2006 Chrysler Voyager currently. I am glad to see Chrysler still holds up. Less fancy than the other two, but I woud still choose that (I love the stow n go in mine, but I might trade it for the hybrid option, because of the daily school runs)
My 2005 sienna still drives almost as smooth as the day I brought it. I just completed a 13 day 13 state 6k miles cross country trip in a 19 Year old 167k mile minivan. Also my 2005 sienna is still quieter than my friend’s 2023 odyssey. So the choice is clear for me.
Given Sienna’s All Wheel Drive, our average 37MPG, Heads Up Display, Digital Rear View Mirror and vastly superior J.D. Power 2024 U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study ranking, it’s a no brainer.
We are a family of 5, my parents bought a 2020 pacifica hybrid (in 2020) and it is amazing. It is the first car that I have even driven (I am not an adult) and the seats are super comfortable. We can easily go from Montreal to Myrtle beach in South Carolina in a 2 day trip. The battery lasts for about 50km (which is about 31 miles) and recharges in like an hour. I love minivans. We had a (iirc 2010) dodge grand caravan but the cost to keep it running was too much. Amazing car.
I've got 2025 Sienna XSE, those come with sport tuned suspention, and it becomes a bit more fun when you throw it into sport mode. Mine is AWD so I get that kick from rear motor. They have larger screen for 2025 and better holder for wireless charging. Had 2013 Sienna before this one. For 11 years of ownership had zero problems.
If Chrysler didn’t have poor reliability, I’d choose it with its stow n’ go seats and handsome exterior styling. I’m worried the Pacifica will be discontinued due to it being the sole offering in the Chrysler lineup as Stellantis is looking to cut non profitable brands. Perhaps the Dodge Grand Caravan will make a comeback if Dodge sticks around or if Ram or Jeep will offer a minivan. I hope Toyota listens to customers and makes the second row seats removable again as they ditched side airbags in the backseat of the new 2025 Camry. They can also offer the hybrid max powertrain for those who want more power in the Sienna. The Odyssey is getting a refresh for 2025 but it’s actually underwhelming considering no new powertrain offerings to make it more efficient and not even offering the new V6 from the Pilot. The infotainment “upgrade” from 8” to 9” and wireless projection is lame considering the Accord has a 12.3” screen. Honda is being lazy and didn’t redesign the interior to accommodate the larger screen.
Well, every van has their issues. Buy depending on which of it fits better for u and your family otherwise get SUV or sedan. Even that, each one has its own flaws.
My 2018 Odyssey has had several electrical problems. There is a current recall for wiring issues in the rear. Rear seats that intermittently failed to close, rear view mirrors not holding settings. Now an intermittent NO START that did respond to a jump start even though the car had just completed a 70 mile trip as well as a battery inspection. We now have to carry a jump start module to insure that we can get home. Also my wife backed into a bush that left a hole in the "BUMPER". The transmission occasionally does a down shift right after turning down hill. On sharp turns in the parking lot it sometimes makes a sound and movement like we drove over a small curb. When braking, the front end sometimes exhibits a vibration that shakes the car and the steering wheel. This again is an intermittent happening. We were told it might be warped rotors, but it doesn't shake every time the brakes are used. All in All, we have had more problems with this car than either my 2003 VW TDI (200,000)or my 1997 Dodge 2500 4x4 diesel pickup (300,000). We were told by a retired Honda employee that he would not buy any of the post 2000 Honda cars.
you must absolutely add to the odyssey: awd. pano-roof. 360-cam. timing chain. (no timing belt get rid of it. but non-turbo. turbo v4 is not good option. v6 naturally aspirated plus plugin with extra large battery) slow-traffic follow feature. built-in vacuum cleaner must be returned to the car. light-off-roading pack option. (with high clearance and some other light-off-roading features) also needed a additional extra front and other lights females have trouble to see at night (in comparison to men this is biology thing) and vans are driven by many females.
*Its about reliability to me.. Both Honda and Toyota have proved they are reliable.. I just dont like the drop of power with the hybrid engine in the toyota.. yes its reliable and toyota has been using this hybrid engine since 1997 with great reliability.. however we are talking minivans which means you probably want to travel with several ppl.. imo that loss of power will make a difference.. So I would choose Honda for this reason... Kia and Chrysler have failed the reliability test.. Both rarely last over 200k miles without having major issues by that time.*
I have a 2020 Chrysler Pacifica, not a hybrid. I have a set of twins who just turned 1 a 5-year-old and a 3-year-old. I love my Pacifica. We drive from Wolcott NY to Florida every year from 12/21 to 01/02 my Pacifica never slips in winter storms and is good on gas. I love this vehicle, I finally reached 106000 miles I don't want to let it go for another brand. I plan to keep my current one and purchase another Chrysler Pacifica but don't know if I should take a hybrid.
I always detested soccer mom minivans, but currently driving Inherited Chrysler Pacifica and compared to my Ford transit Connect feels like total luxury. I absolutely love the stow and go seats.
@@jaysworld707 the stow and go seats are also in Ford transit connects, but who has garage space to take out or the energy to put back in every time one wants seats.
Just purchased another Honda Odyssey. My first one has 300k and is STILL running strong (its just looking haggard lol). No engine or transmission problems. I really feel like Hondas are great cars.
Absolutely fantastic video. The woman on camera was great and really transferred her message fantastically. I'm looking for a minivan. Tested the Chrysler, but quality is an BIG issue. Honda: Great by MPG and tech is bad. Toyota: Tech is outdated, but very reliable. Kia Carnival looks like the winner to me. Especially with the new hybrid coming out.
odyssey wins my single travel with a overnight sleeping bag here and there, then campsite with rear seats back up. thanks for showing that. the other 2 just a maze of seats all over h.. hope '25 has same option.
Sienna average price at least $10k more than odyssey. Unless you go for LE or XLE. I would say big NO to Sienna $10k is enough to offset 10years gas cost and potential battery replacement cost is nightmare.
From what I remember reading on forums, I gather that nation-wide the price difference is more like $6K - but still, the Odyssey is much cheaper than the Sienna. An interesting question to ask perhaps is, "Why is the Odyssey cheaper"? With the average price of a new vehicle being $48K these days .... And the most important money question is the total cost of ownership rather than the sale price. Gas savings are one thing, and also there are maintenance and repairs costs, and the resale value. One last thing: Ni-MH battery replacement costs in Toyota hybrids are not a nightmare; first, these batteries are much smaller, second, they typically last for 250K miles without much deterioration, and the warranty covers them for 150K miles/10 years (unlike the lithium batteries in EV's). Third, they cost a fraction of what the lithium batteries do.
@@DimitrijDanielGreat point regarding the importance of ownership cost and resale value. Thank you for helping me think differently now. God bless you in Jesus name
One thing I'd like to know, and you don't mention at all, is....do any of these models have a spare tire included? Even a temporary spare? It's amazing to me that manufacturers are getting away with selling touring and even off road cars without spare tires. You don't say one thing about this.
Love our 2024 Pacific gas. I get 30 MPG on road trip. Can't beat the styling and stow and go seating! It our 5th Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth vans since 1985. Had a few for 10 and 14 years! Honda and Toyota are not good looking and are way over priced and their seating is clunky.. And I've had many Honda and Toyota sedans since 1970.
Good review only mini van i had was a dodge caravan 3.6 liter V6 engine & poor transmission the killed in Action carnival good to see it excluded more suv with sliding door
I'd get the Odyssey. But that's just me. That V6 is rock solid. Pacifica is a compelling package but it has reliability issues, serious ones. Toyota might be a generation ahead of the market with that Sienna.
I still have PTSD from sending 2 Grand Caravans back to Chrysler under 2 states' Lemon Laws in the early/mid-90s so the Chrysler is out. The AWD from the Toyota is enticing but the inability to remove the 2nd row seats is a deal breaker. I am getting rid of a Honda Ridgeline and looking to get a minivan. The ability to load 4X8 sheet goods flat is a big thing. I have almost new winter tires on wheels that fit the Ridgeline so FWD is fine for all but the worst days in Vermont and New Hampshire where I live. Honda it is. For those mentioning the Kia...I also have PTSD from owning a Hyundai (if you don't think they're the same cars, you're uninformed) that was great for 3 years and then nothing but problems until we got rid of it - 3 sets of pads and rotors, 3 sets of struts in under 75K miles. They use crap materials.
To remove 2nd row seats see UA-cam video by Brad Ling - Removing 2021 Sienna’s “Non-Removable” seats and Resolve Airbag Error After Removing Sienna’s Seats.
The Odysey's tank is also 1.5 gal larger than the Sienna. People are so obsessed with range and don't care about how much gas and/or electricity is takes to get that far lol.
In this test, there were only two options. The Chrysler comes with Chrysler build "quality" and Chrysler "durability." Meaning, it is not worth considering, regardless of features.
I have a 2012 Chrysler Town and Country with well over 200k. It's needed minimal work over the years. I've also driven a new Pacifica eHybrid and that thing is awesome.
@newlintodd while I am very happy that you've had good luck with it, you are an anomaly. For most of these vehicles, it would be on its fourth transmission by now and possibly its second or third engine. That is of course assuming someone decided to keep it on the road for 200,000 me as these failures continued to occur. I've known way too many people who were burned by Chrysler products, people who take good care of their cars by the way. I don't have any trust in the quality or reliability of their products.
After owning a newer Honda, their audio tech is busch league compared to others. Honda's A/C cost me 2K after 40K miles. The Non Hybrid Pacifica would have been a better head to head.
Chrysler Pacifica is the best minivan to get now! Offers 4wd, powerful big V6 engine with plenty of muscle if you go with the gasoline, traditional transmission setup with the S Package added to the Touring L like my Dad got! Ours is fully loaded even has a built in vacuum cleaner which is something great to have on hand for quick detailing! Our second pick would have been the Kia Carnival but the Chrysler is best far as looks and performance, it's like driving a Sportscar instead of what it is being a minivan.
Sorry my v6 Sienna has killer speed and great reliability. I also have 300,000 and no transmission or motor issues. Though I do all regular maintenance and oil changes 5-6,000 miles.
@@tedlulis973they are obviously from when FCA or Chrysler owned the company. Now that Stellantis is in charge, you will be a very busy man if people keep buying their junk
It will take you 8 years to make up for the higher base price of the Sienna and the dealer markups most dealers are still charging. No thanks, I'd rather have a much more powerful V6 with 10-speed transmission than an overpriced economy car. The comparable Sienna to the Odyssey sport is about $12k more expensive where I live so it's just not a good option for me.
Welp, this video was a waste for me. I was hoping to see the Chrysler Pacifica's Stow and Go seats, THAT model of the Pacifica compared to the other two.
I had odyssey 2023 got totaled which used to give 16-20 mileage in the city, hated and TERRIBLE. Then I got Sienna as replacement, wow I never have to worry about gas, a good replacement.
Best mpv is not only luxury interior best handling driving experience but must be heavy duty large space comfortable and most importantly must be diesel engine and 4wd it can go everywhere around the world including crossing water, extreme off-road snow hill Sandy hill dessert beaches, mountain like the capability of Mitsubishi Delica D5, Delica L400, campervan motorhome.
Because im crazy, i would modify a Pacifica by creating a Hellcat version, blacked out with brembo brakes. I'd get the kids to the soccer tournament 3 states a way in 10 seconds flat. Lol!
I'm surprised they didn't wait to make this video until they could get their hands on a 2025 Odyssey, which sees a number of upgrades in its refresh, including the infotainment screen and number of USB ports in the vehicle. And why is the Carnival not part of this comparison? Don't give me any of that, "It's an MPV, not a minivan" nonsense.
Honda has kept me happy for 5 years. But I wish it could get 35 mpg and have reclining seats for those long vacation drives twice a year. It doesn't need all that engine power it presently has. Less power, more mpg, please.
The reclining seats are not to be used while driving. If you get in an accident, let’s just say it won’t go well. I believe the manual says something about that
The best mini van hands down is my 2020 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Touring L.. Best handling, power, ride and comfort.. not Toyota, Honda, kia not even close. Pacifica much more solid of a van as well.
Just rented the 2024 Pacifica and I am not impressed by many aspects of the design: 1. Sloppy handling. On uneven roads, the vehicle has too much vertical movement that gives impression of the unstable traction. It is like the good old Buick sedan 2. Vague on center steering feel: too much play around the center position 3. Lazy transmission downshift for acceleration 4. Clunky switch gears, stalks feel My old 2005 Honda Odyssey after 20 years of service still feel better than the Pacifica which is two years old on the above.
@@andyk4972 True. Not any more. Up until 2020 they had V6 option. If you can find a well-maintained used Sienna with V6, it’s worth a look. We just bought a 2012 Sienna Limited, V6 & AWD. 120 K miles, so reasonable price, especially as dealer installed a new set of tires, changed fluids, filters and rear brakes. 3 K miles in, so far, so good. 2GR-FE is a peppy engine, and it's proving to be a great grocery getter, DD and road trip vehicle.
What year is it, and how long have you had it? I'm currently in the market for a vehicle and trying to decide if I want a mini van or a 3 row suv, like a Palisade or Traverse or something similar.
@@jeffreyosberg3117 I don't know about the Pacifica, but my sister has a 2014 Town & County she bought with about 50,000 miles on it. It now has 197,000+ miles on it and still driving good, although one door does not shut properly by itself, so you have to close it manually to get it fully close. Of course that could be fixed, but she is low on money at this time.
@@jeffreyosberg3117Stellantis has cut quality down considerably. I would watch buying anything from them and I was thee biggest supporter of Ram trucks for years. Now, I am going to sell my Ram to buy a Honda minivan
Get the sienna with 3.5 v6 awd not the hybrid if you are keeping the Van for a long time….hybrid batteries doesnt last very long and very expensive to replace……
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Why no carnival ?
Nothing on the three things I value most: ride quality, sound level, and reliability.
From our rentals, we found the Pacifica to be the most comfortable and quietist, but would not trust it for reliability (nearly every one we've rented has had problems). The Odyssey is a reliable car if you follow Honda's frequent maintenance rotation, and is the most fun to drive but the least comfortable and tied for nosiest. The Toyota will last forever and will need minimal work done, is boring to drive but comfortable, with average road noise. So: Pacifica is the best to rent, the Odyssey the best to borrow, and the Toyota the best to own.
Honda with their v6 all day. Honda v6 are reliable. Imagine if Odyssey come with awd will kill those toyota. Those garbage 4 cylinder in the toyota are garbage in the long run. I work for toyota and subaru
@@RedmanLS3 I'm sure you do.
They need to steal the improvements of all the minivans to make the best family hauler ever.
Thank you so very much for being straightforward and efficient with your video.
I've been looking at the odyssey for a few weeks now, and there are many videos that run for 40-50 friggin minutes just to show the basics of an automobile.
You not only got me in and out in less than 15 minutes, but you also compared 2 others in the same allotted time.
I love efficient people.
Love my odyssey. Checked out a Pacifica as well, but in the end opted for the odyssey and I’m so glad that I did.
What is it about the Odyssey you love so much?
@@1CrazyDudeYoCompare to my 2005 Honda Odyssey ( let alone newer one), the Pacifica has many obvious deficiencies after few days driving along CA highway:
1. Sloppy handing: on uneven road, the Pacifica has too much body movement/ sway that does not inspire fast driving
2. Lazy Automatic transmission: even with more gears, the Pacifica is very slow to downshift for ramp entry
3. Switch gears are clunky that betray low cost design
4. Acceleration is below average even though on paper the Pacifica 3.6L V6 has same horse power/ torque as the Honda
This generation of Pacifica has similar behavior of the old Buick sedan or old Toyota Siena minivan
Interesting since I can beat most other cars off the line in my Pacifica. Maybe user error?
Honda needs to come out with a hybrid Odyssey! I'm looking to get a mini van with in a year and I like the Odyssey but I may go with Sienna.
I just bought the 2024 Toyota Sienna xse and it’s been an amazing vehicle. I looked at the odyssey but after doing research notice theirs been several transmission recalls which made me hesitant in purchasing an odyssey. So decided the Toyota, they’ve definitely surpassed Honda in regards reliability these past few yrs.
We went with the odyssey for that bench, it can do everything, and my wife and the two rear facing seats all seat comfortably on it! Plus you can use the center seat as a park chair along with the tail gate mode
I drove my odyssey to New Jersey with my family and I love it. I got 28mpg fuel efficiency, which is pretty good. Love Honda
But not anywhere near to what the hybrid Sienna gets.
that’s horrible buddy 💀💀💀
Basing fuel economy off a once in a blue moon road trip just isn't accurate. My 14 Escape with AWD and the 1.6 EcoBoost is rated at 22/29 and while I've seen 31 on a road trip, I'm seeing the lower number 99% of the time. High, and more importantly, consistent fuel economy that a hybrid offers seems so appealing.
Probably best bet is the Honda all around. Real world MPG is decent but reliable and Proven in Honda. Cheaper cost plus better space usage, better driving and Faster driving, simple proven 6 cylinder instead of contantly recalled turbos like Toyota. 2nd row bench seat much better Honda. And again its CHEAPER and dont have to worry about replacing expensive battery in the future. 🤔(Although I like some features in the Toyota plus mpg.)
My Chrysler t c has tailgate mode also. Plus I love my stow and go seating the others don’t have
Odyssey and sienna the best
Odyssey is my all time favorite!
Chrysler pacifica hybrid have 2021 a absolutely love it. I go anywhere between 750 and as much as 1000 miles between fillups. No other vehicle can come close to that.
I do a lot of local driving so I'm able to plug it in usually 3 times a week overnight. If you don't have access to electrical outlet in your garage or do alot of long distance drives you of course would not get as good gas mileage. But even without great gas mileage very smooth quiet running vehicle with plenty of room and I think best looking of 3 vans...
the Kia Carnival isn't here?
Because it's still Kia.
@@80sBornWorrior I guess that's why Kia is the top reviewed champion with the Telluride. Doesn't matter, you have to include all the minivans when you're CarMax, even to say it's bad. At least mention it in the review.
@@80sBornWorriorthere is always one!! That one is you. SMH
Sienna hands down…the carnival…apparently doesn’t qualify but will say is better then the Pacifica
@@filipanese_gui you haven’t driven with van full of people on high mountain range. Sienna is a death machine. It’s slower than yesterday days news.
I like the Pacifica non-hybrid version for its cargo space, and I like the power of the engine. I recently drove my sister's 2014 Chrysler Town & Country which has basically the same engine and it drove get. It also has the stow and go seating like the Pacifica, was is great for a trip where you want to bring a bed with you (sleeping in the mini van).
My other sister has a Sienna and they are very nice too, but not what I would choose.
I'm watching this like I could afford one... 😅
Driving a 2006 Chrysler Voyager currently. I am glad to see Chrysler still holds up. Less fancy than the other two, but I woud still choose that (I love the stow n go in mine, but I might trade it for the hybrid option, because of the daily school runs)
Sienna for sure! I have arthritis in my knees. The recliner seats in the back would be heaven! Toyota is always reliable too.
My 2005 sienna still drives almost as smooth as the day I brought it. I just completed a 13 day 13 state 6k miles cross country trip in a 19
Year old 167k mile minivan.
Also my 2005 sienna is still quieter than my friend’s 2023 odyssey.
So the choice is clear for me.
Great choice!
If the center seats don't Stow then, it's a No go
Given Sienna’s All Wheel Drive, our average 37MPG, Heads Up Display, Digital Rear View Mirror and vastly superior J.D. Power
2024 U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study ranking, it’s a no brainer.
We are a family of 5, my parents bought a 2020 pacifica hybrid (in 2020) and it is amazing. It is the first car that I have even driven (I am not an adult) and the seats are super comfortable. We can easily go from Montreal to Myrtle beach in South Carolina in a 2 day trip. The battery lasts for about 50km (which is about 31 miles) and recharges in like an hour.
I love minivans. We had a (iirc 2010) dodge grand caravan but the cost to keep it running was too much. Amazing car.
I am in the market for a new van and wanted to get the Sienna but the non-removable 2nd row seating is a no go, sadly.
ah yes, the bread and wilted greens in a paper bag prop. timeless.
I've got 2025 Sienna XSE, those come with sport tuned suspention, and it becomes a bit more fun when you throw it into sport mode. Mine is AWD so I get that kick from rear motor. They have larger screen for 2025 and better holder for wireless charging. Had 2013 Sienna before this one. For 11 years of ownership had zero problems.
Chrysler non hybrid. Second row does fold down.
Currently the best minivans are
1 - 2025 Kia Carnival
2 - 2025 Toyota Sienna
3 - Honda Odyssey
4 - Chrysler Pacifica (this one has outdated stuff)
Honda always perfected the minivan category
If Chrysler didn’t have poor reliability, I’d choose it with its stow n’ go seats and handsome exterior styling. I’m worried the Pacifica will be discontinued due to it being the sole offering in the Chrysler lineup as Stellantis is looking to cut non profitable brands. Perhaps the Dodge Grand Caravan will make a comeback if Dodge sticks around or if Ram or Jeep will offer a minivan.
I hope Toyota listens to customers and makes the second row seats removable again as they ditched side airbags in the backseat of the new 2025 Camry. They can also offer the hybrid max powertrain for those who want more power in the Sienna.
The Odyssey is getting a refresh for 2025 but it’s actually underwhelming considering no new powertrain offerings to make it more efficient and not even offering the new V6 from the Pilot. The infotainment “upgrade” from 8” to 9” and wireless projection is lame considering the Accord has a 12.3” screen. Honda is being lazy and didn’t redesign the interior to accommodate the larger screen.
Well, every van has their issues. Buy depending on which of it fits better for u and your family otherwise get SUV or sedan. Even that, each one has its own flaws.
It's only the plugin hybrids that have major reliability issues. The normal gas ones are far more reliable (And are the ones with stow n' go)
Chrysler has poor reliability across the board. I wouldn't surprised if the entire line is discontinued as Stellantis is cost cutting.
My 2018 Odyssey has had several electrical problems. There is a current recall for wiring issues in the rear. Rear seats that intermittently failed to close, rear view mirrors not holding settings. Now an intermittent NO START that did respond to a jump start even though the car had just completed a 70 mile trip as well as a battery inspection. We now have to carry a jump start module to insure that we can get home. Also my wife backed into a bush that left a hole in the "BUMPER". The transmission occasionally does a down shift right after turning down hill. On sharp turns in the parking lot it sometimes makes a sound and movement like we drove over a small curb. When braking, the front end sometimes exhibits a vibration that shakes the car and the steering wheel. This again is an intermittent happening. We were told it might be warped rotors, but it doesn't shake every time the brakes are used. All in All, we have had more problems with this car than either my 2003 VW TDI (200,000)or my 1997 Dodge 2500 4x4 diesel pickup (300,000). We were told by a retired Honda employee that he would not buy any of the post 2000 Honda cars.
you must absolutely add to the odyssey: awd. pano-roof. 360-cam. timing chain. (no timing belt get rid of it. but non-turbo. turbo v4 is not good option. v6 naturally aspirated plus plugin with extra large battery) slow-traffic follow feature. built-in vacuum cleaner must be returned to the car. light-off-roading pack option. (with high clearance and some other light-off-roading features) also needed a additional extra front and other lights females have trouble to see at night (in comparison to men this is biology thing) and vans are driven by many females.
maybe you should apply for Honda then.
*Its about reliability to me.. Both Honda and Toyota have proved they are reliable.. I just dont like the drop of power with the hybrid engine in the toyota.. yes its reliable and toyota has been using this hybrid engine since 1997 with great reliability.. however we are talking minivans which means you probably want to travel with several ppl.. imo that loss of power will make a difference.. So I would choose Honda for this reason... Kia and Chrysler have failed the reliability test.. Both rarely last over 200k miles without having major issues by that time.*
I have a 2020 Chrysler Pacifica, not a hybrid.
I have a set of twins who just turned 1 a 5-year-old and a 3-year-old. I love my Pacifica. We drive from Wolcott NY to Florida every year from 12/21 to 01/02 my Pacifica never slips in winter storms and is good on gas. I love this vehicle, I finally reached 106000 miles I don't want to let it go for another brand. I plan to keep my current one and purchase another Chrysler Pacifica but don't know if I should take a hybrid.
I always detested soccer mom minivans, but currently driving Inherited Chrysler Pacifica and compared to my Ford transit Connect feels like total luxury. I absolutely love the stow and go seats.
Why doesn't everyone just buy a minivan and remove the seats over a Ford transit and the like
@@jaysworld707 the stow and go seats are also in Ford transit connects, but who has garage space to take out or the energy to put back in every time one wants seats.
Pacífica all the way!!! Love that v6 and the looks
Just purchased another Honda Odyssey. My first one has 300k and is STILL running strong (its just looking haggard lol). No engine or transmission problems.
I really feel like Hondas are great cars.
Absolutely fantastic video. The woman on camera was great and really transferred her message fantastically.
I'm looking for a minivan.
Tested the Chrysler, but quality is an BIG issue.
Honda: Great by MPG and tech is bad.
Toyota: Tech is outdated, but very reliable.
Kia Carnival looks like the winner to me. Especially with the new hybrid coming out.
odyssey wins my single travel with a overnight sleeping bag here and there, then campsite with rear seats back up. thanks for showing that. the other 2 just a maze of seats all over h.. hope '25 has same option.
Just ordered the new Sienna. Went for fuel efficiency, AWD, and Toyota proven reliability and value retention.
3:09 The "DVD" player?! It shows the BluRay logo on both the screen and the player 😅
all 3 are good in some ways. i find it cool that the chrysler has a vacuum build in 😂
Sienna average price at least $10k more than odyssey. Unless you go for LE or XLE. I would say big NO to Sienna $10k is enough to offset 10years gas cost and potential battery replacement cost is nightmare.
2k for battery replacement which should be done 10-15 yrs later. As long as you maintain the filter
From what I remember reading on forums, I gather that nation-wide the price difference is more like $6K - but still, the Odyssey is much cheaper than the Sienna.
An interesting question to ask perhaps is, "Why is the Odyssey cheaper"? With the average price of a new vehicle being $48K these days ....
And the most important money question is the total cost of ownership rather than the sale price. Gas savings are one thing, and also there are maintenance and repairs costs, and the resale value.
One last thing: Ni-MH battery replacement costs in Toyota hybrids are not a nightmare; first, these batteries are much smaller, second, they typically last for 250K miles without much deterioration, and the warranty covers them for 150K miles/10 years (unlike the lithium batteries in EV's). Third, they cost a fraction of what the lithium batteries do.
@@DimitrijDanielGreat point regarding the importance of ownership cost and resale value. Thank you for helping me think differently now. God bless you in Jesus name
One thing I'd like to know, and you don't mention at all, is....do any of these models have a spare tire included? Even a temporary spare? It's amazing to me that manufacturers are getting away with selling touring and even off road cars without spare tires. You don't say one thing about this.
If available, you should check out the Toyota Hiace. That is one sweet -looking ride.
Pacifica easily! 👍🇺🇲👍
It’s assembled in Canada 🇨🇦
@@BriwhyThat's just a rumor
Love our 2024 Pacific gas. I get 30 MPG on road trip. Can't beat the styling and stow and go seating! It our 5th Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth vans since 1985. Had a few for 10 and 14 years! Honda and Toyota are not good looking and are way over priced and their seating is clunky.. And I've had many Honda and Toyota sedans since 1970.
Oh, don’t worry. After a few thousand miles you will realize that quality is no longer job 1 at Stellantis.
@@detroitgator1 Had 5. no problems. thanks.
Honda doesn't have a rear evaporator for the air conditioner, it just recycles the cold air from the front seats avoid it in hot climates
Do the other two have rear evaporators?
Good review only mini van i had was a dodge caravan 3.6 liter V6 engine & poor transmission the killed in Action carnival good to see it excluded more suv with sliding door
I'd get the Odyssey. But that's just me. That V6 is rock solid. Pacifica is a compelling package but it has reliability issues, serious ones. Toyota might be a generation ahead of the market with that Sienna.
Similarly priced????? Not even close!!! Toyota is ridiculously high $$$
Garbage for sure, Tacoma and 4Runner lovers would love it though
I’m giving up fuel efficiency, AWD (All Wheel Drive, and USB ports, for the tailgate seat!🎉❤️🎉 Honda Odyssey, is the winner!
You gave up tranny too for this
uh the sienna also has AWD- 💀🙏
Proven 6 cylinder honda
@@ky0071they said they are ditching fuel efficiently and all wheel drive for the odyssey
True, but the Odyssey just drives so much better also!
Toyota for the win. Ask a mechanic--it's the most reliable out there. Not to mention resale is higher and the hybrid engine is amazing!
I still have PTSD from sending 2 Grand Caravans back to Chrysler under 2 states' Lemon Laws in the early/mid-90s so the Chrysler is out. The AWD from the Toyota is enticing but the inability to remove the 2nd row seats is a deal breaker. I am getting rid of a Honda Ridgeline and looking to get a minivan. The ability to load 4X8 sheet goods flat is a big thing. I have almost new winter tires on wheels that fit the Ridgeline so FWD is fine for all but the worst days in Vermont and New Hampshire where I live. Honda it is. For those mentioning the Kia...I also have PTSD from owning a Hyundai (if you don't think they're the same cars, you're uninformed) that was great for 3 years and then nothing but problems until we got rid of it - 3 sets of pads and rotors, 3 sets of struts in under 75K miles. They use crap materials.
1)How did you like the Honda Ridgeline? 2)And what year was it? 3)Also why u switching to a Minivan now?
To remove 2nd row seats see UA-cam video by Brad Ling - Removing 2021 Sienna’s “Non-Removable” seats and Resolve Airbag Error After Removing Sienna’s Seats.
The Odysey's tank is also 1.5 gal larger than the Sienna. People are so obsessed with range and don't care about how much gas and/or electricity is takes to get that far lol.
And honestly, who can go a full tank of gas without stopping for a bio-break?
The Pacifica for me. Great van.
I currently own a 2017 Toyota Sienna. If and when I need a new minivan I want one with a V6.
Honda is smart as they offer a second row bench. Much better for hauling kids and dogs.
In this test, there were only two options. The Chrysler comes with Chrysler build "quality" and Chrysler "durability." Meaning, it is not worth considering, regardless of features.
I have a 2012 Chrysler Town and Country with well over 200k. It's needed minimal work over the years. I've also driven a new Pacifica eHybrid and that thing is awesome.
@newlintodd while I am very happy that you've had good luck with it, you are an anomaly. For most of these vehicles, it would be on its fourth transmission by now and possibly its second or third engine. That is of course assuming someone decided to keep it on the road for 200,000 me as these failures continued to occur. I've known way too many people who were burned by Chrysler products, people who take good care of their cars by the way. I don't have any trust in the quality or reliability of their products.
@@thatcarguy1UZ My sister has a 2014 Town and Country that is nearing 200,000 and is still running great. I drove it myself last week.
After owning a newer Honda, their audio tech is busch league compared to others. Honda's A/C cost me 2K after 40K miles. The Non Hybrid Pacifica would have been a better head to head.
Which year of the odyssey are you test driving?
I love my new Odyssey, but I got to say. You ain’t lying about the gas mileage. Definitely not as efficient as it needs to be.
Chrysler Pacifica is the best minivan to get now! Offers 4wd, powerful big V6 engine with plenty of muscle if you go with the gasoline, traditional transmission setup with the S Package added to the Touring L like my Dad got! Ours is fully loaded even has a built in vacuum cleaner which is something great to have on hand for quick detailing! Our second pick would have been the Kia Carnival but the Chrysler is best far as looks and performance, it's like driving a Sportscar instead of what it is being a minivan.
But it'll be in the shop 5x more than the Sienna....
Sorry my v6 Sienna has killer speed and great reliability. I also have 300,000 and no transmission or motor issues. Though I do all regular maintenance and oil changes 5-6,000 miles.
@@kennethzagone2638 Siennas are junk.
@@becanieable I work on these and nothing could be further from the truth see many with 350 to 450,000 miles on them
@@tedlulis973they are obviously from when FCA or Chrysler owned the company. Now that Stellantis is in charge, you will be a very busy man if people keep buying their junk
I prefer you tight jeans over all these mini-vans.
1 minute into the video,I find the presenter appealing, 2 minutes into the video the odessy takes the title.
Pacifica anyday
Odyssey for life!
If you don’t want a hybrid Pacifica then the middle row goes in the ground like the way back
Usually odyssey get more recall that sienna! But more expensive 😅
I’m disappointed you didn’t give a price comparison also.
The Odyssey's tailgate seat feature is cool. Sienna hybrid is weak, but if gas saving is the top priority, go with it.
It will take you 8 years to make up for the higher base price of the Sienna and the dealer markups most dealers are still charging. No thanks, I'd rather have a much more powerful V6 with 10-speed transmission than an overpriced economy car. The comparable Sienna to the Odyssey sport is about $12k more expensive where I live so it's just not a good option for me.
I love the Honda Odyssey and the Toyota Sienna
If Subaru made a minivan it would trump all. Can’t imagine the price but it would sell tremendously to all of us subie fans.
With 22 mpg in the Honda I will keep my old Minivan . 200 miles extra range between Sienna and Odyssey is not worth the Honda's fancy seat gymnastics.
Welp, this video was a waste for me. I was hoping to see the Chrysler Pacifica's Stow and Go seats, THAT model of the Pacifica compared to the other two.
I had odyssey 2023 got totaled which used to give 16-20 mileage in the city, hated and TERRIBLE. Then I got Sienna as replacement, wow I never have to worry about gas, a good replacement.
The Pacifica really has no other competition and is still the king of minivans hands down
Best mpv is not only luxury interior best handling driving experience but must be heavy duty large space comfortable and most importantly must be diesel engine and 4wd it can go everywhere around the world including crossing water, extreme off-road snow hill Sandy hill dessert beaches, mountain like the capability of Mitsubishi Delica D5, Delica L400, campervan motorhome.
Great explanation, thank you!
This is a fail. Where is the Kia Carnival. Only 4 minivans in this category, and you have 3.
Because im crazy, i would modify a Pacifica by creating a Hellcat version, blacked out with brembo brakes. I'd get the kids to the soccer tournament 3 states a way in 10 seconds flat. Lol!
What year ranges for each please
1. Sienna
2. Odyssey
3. Pacifica
I would pick the Odyssey just because I would prefer performance over efficiency. Otherwise probably the Toyota.
the problem with hybrids is on top of regular maintenence, you have to do for battery. my 2019 odyseey is missing a ton of quriks. well done honda
There’s not really extra “maintenance” for a hybrid until it gets 10-20 years old. Then you’ll have to start thinking about the battery life.
I'm surprised they didn't wait to make this video until they could get their hands on a 2025 Odyssey, which sees a number of upgrades in its refresh, including the infotainment screen and number of USB ports in the vehicle.
And why is the Carnival not part of this comparison? Don't give me any of that, "It's an MPV, not a minivan" nonsense.
Defo the Pacifica you can disagree but it has a built in vacuum
Pacifica is more luxurious i would buy that one
She is really good
thanks
How come you folks left out the Kia Carnival?
They probably didn't send them one or pay to be included. Carnival FTW! Love mine.
Pacifica blows it away !@@colear3
Honda has kept me happy for 5 years. But I wish it could get 35 mpg and have reclining seats for those long vacation drives twice a year. It doesn't need all that engine power it presently has. Less power, more mpg, please.
The reclining seats are not to be used while driving. If you get in an accident, let’s just say it won’t go well. I believe the manual says something about that
I want to have a mini van! Twin sons on the way! Wonder if my wife and I could get freaky together at a soccer game! Ted Lasso
Pacifica has non hybrid all wheel drive with stow and go sests
The best mini van hands down is my 2020 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid Touring L.. Best handling, power, ride and comfort.. not Toyota, Honda, kia not even close. Pacifica much more solid of a van as well.
Just rented the 2024 Pacifica and I am not impressed by many aspects of the design:
1. Sloppy handling. On uneven roads, the vehicle has too much vertical movement that gives impression of the unstable traction. It is like the good old Buick sedan
2. Vague on center steering feel: too much play around the center position
3. Lazy transmission downshift for acceleration
4. Clunky switch gears, stalks feel
My old 2005 Honda Odyssey after 20 years of service still feel better than the Pacifica which is two years old on the above.
No stow and go is why I didn't buy a Pacifica hybrid.
Sienna with the V6 and AWD.
Sienna doesn’t have a V6 option
@@andyk4972 True. Not any more. Up until 2020 they had V6 option. If you can find a well-maintained used Sienna with V6, it’s worth a look. We just bought a 2012 Sienna Limited, V6 & AWD. 120 K miles, so reasonable price, especially as dealer installed a new set of tires, changed fluids, filters and rear brakes. 3 K miles in, so far, so good. 2GR-FE is a peppy engine, and it's proving to be a great grocery getter, DD and road trip vehicle.
Reliability????
Put 2025 Kia Carnival next to these and you will see how outdated they are. Kia Carnival is currently the best Minivan by far.
Pacifica is still the only one who can fold the 2nd-row seats flat? What I like about minivan are the values and space.
What's a DVD player😮😅
Pacifica for better looking and feel good from inside.. Its sad they aren't as reliable as Honda/Toyota 😢
We love our Pacifica best van we ever had
What year is it, and how long have you had it? I'm currently in the market for a vehicle and trying to decide if I want a mini van or a 3 row suv, like a Palisade or Traverse or something similar.
@@jeffreyosberg3117 I don't know about the Pacifica, but my sister has a 2014 Town & County she bought with about 50,000 miles on it. It now has 197,000+ miles on it and still driving good, although one door does not shut properly by itself, so you have to close it manually to get it fully close. Of course that could be fixed, but she is low on money at this time.
@@jeffreyosberg3117Stellantis has cut quality down considerably. I would watch buying anything from them and I was thee biggest supporter of Ram trucks for years. Now, I am going to sell my Ram to buy a Honda minivan
Get the sienna with 3.5 v6 awd not the hybrid if you are keeping the Van for a long time….hybrid batteries doesnt last very long and very expensive to replace……
Refurbished batteries are 1500, brand new batteries are 4500. Not that bad.
Sienna’s are hybrid only since 2021. No more V6 in Toyota Sienna since ‘21 or Highlander since ‘23.
@@robertguynn7289 i know… you can still buy v6 sienna 2nd hand…
2010 Prius driver here. 244,000 miles on the original battery. Nuff said