FYI! I got the part numbers mixed up for the transmission drain plug and fill plug. The description has the correct part numbers! Sorry for the confusion. 😅
Great video! I’m a fan of The Car Care Nut as well. He has a video on how to make your Toyota last 300,000 miles. Some of the recommendations he makes are for more frequent maintenance than what is recommended by the manufacturer. Here are the notes I made: • Oil every 5k miles or 6 months • Diff and transfer at 30k, then every 30-60k • Transmission 60k or 6 y • Coolant 50k or 5y • Brake fluid 3-5y • Power steering fluid (if not electric)50-70k, use power steering fluid not automatic transmission fluid • PCV valve every 50k Clean throttle body every 25-50k miles. Will idle high until it has relearned after a few days
Watched that and just did my 100K service on my camry. First time cleaning the throttle body. Made the rag slightly dirty and no change to performance, but its good piece of mind. Figured I would clean the throttle body on my 98 Ram. Needed multiple rags and scooped the sludge out. Runs a lot better now. The Care care nut has done damage to the service industry lol
How about this quote for 60k service: Front and rear pads (okay, they were due), front/rear differential and transfer case oil, power steering fluid exchange, EFI service because EFI “gummed up” (that’s BS), brake fluid exchange (done 2 yrs ago), alignment (6 months ago), rotate and balance tires (done every 6 months at Discount Tire). All of this goodness for the bargain price of $2300. Again, skipping prop shaft lube and transmission fluid exchange. I’ve done most of these things myself in recent weeks. You guys and other creators demonstrating how to do these services are a Godsend. Thank you and please keep it up.
I think people need a reminder, dealerships make more money on repairs and service than actually selling cars!! Get a cheap socket set, watch some UA-cam videos, do it yourself baby!
Great video! I just finished doing everything from your 30,000-mile video on my 4runner, and now I'll have this video to reference in a few years when I hit 60,000 miles. Thanks for these videos!
I literally just did the 30k mile service this afternoon! Your video was extremely helpful, in finding the right parts and how to do it. I’m bookmarking this video for the future! ✌️
Craziest thing I have seen a shop pull was on my wife’s IS300. I now take care of her fluid needs(sorry couldn’t resist), but at the time she had prepaid for oil changes at a local shop. She dropped her car off Monday morning and got a call saying that her car was skipping and they recommended new coil packs and wires. So I had her come to my work and she dropped me off at the shop to pick up her car. The manager walked me to the car, and started it and explained the noise I was hearing was a cylinder not firing. I then explained to him that in fact what we were hearing was two cylinders not firing. I then pulled out an 8mm socket and ratchet and removed the engine cover. I then showed the manager the coil pack that his mechanic had removed a tucked neatly to the side to cause the skip. Remember the engine cover actually makes it impossible for that to have ‘popped off’ as he quickly tried to use as an excuse. I just laughed and told him he was full of it and I was embarrassed for him.
You make some excellent points, Jason. Toyota published a manual in 2023 that can be downloaded. It's called the "Warranty & Maintenance Guide" for the 4Runner. I think this is what you were referring to. I've modded my truck and going offroad does increase stresses and shortens intervals between certain maintenance items. Depending on the lift and tire size/weight, CV axles might have to be replaced much more often. This maintenance guide does point out what needs to be addressed if you go off road. The other thing to remember, according to The Car Care Nut and David at Automotive Press, if you want to keep your vehicle for a long, long time (300K miles or more), change your engine oil and filters every 3,000 miles. If you "only" want it for 250K miles or less, change the oil every 5,000 miles. The best part, Jason, you made this look easy, worthwhile and fun. Thanks!
I think I figured out why that dealer was so expensive and not quite on point. According to the DEA and ATF, Yakima is a hub for national/international drug activity. I think that whoever gave your father that quote was high.
I'm an auto technician of 15+ yrs , I highly recommend changing the ATF at a shorter interval , 35-40k is better , plus upgrading to a fully synthetic fluid like Valvoline maxlife is a must . Toyota WS fluid is mediocre at best , its non synthetic made by mobil . As a general rule I always suggest cutting the oem fluid intervals in half for better piece of mind .
Fwiw I was told the same thing for my g37 - the manual said to use the Nissan fluid, but my mechanic recommended the Valvoline, never had an issue using it
Premium (91) fuel is NOT better than regular/87. Your dad is wasting money using ‘premium’ gas. Octane is just a measure of resistance to knock, NOT a measure of quality. Tier 1 gas stations are ‘quality’ and THIS is what you/your dad should be using, but only 87 octane is needed since that is what the engine is designed for (ie: low compression, not turbo, etc). Save $ and go to Tier 1 stations and use 87!
So... it's slightly more complicated than that. The 4Runner and Tacoma's ECU adjusts with what octane you run and 91 gives you slightly more horsepower and MPG... but not much. For instance, the HP and torque ratings from Toyota for the 4Runner are running premium fuel. You're not wrong that good quality (top tier) gas is more important than octane. I personally vary it up depending on the price. If premium is way more expensive then the benefits don't make sense... frankly premium doesn't make sense most of the time. But my old man is a bit set in his ways.
I’ve noticed a slight increase as well, but not enough for the cost difference. I typically only run premium when driving up the mountain passes here in Colorado when I know I’ll be on the go peddle.
Octane's resistance to pre detination only helps to increase horsepower with appropriate compression. An ecu can adjust for fuel flow rate, but unless you raise compression, or advance engine timing, the premium fuel serves no purpose. Using premium fuel in an engine that is not designed for it will cause no harm, but is not good advice.
Took mine to the dealer for transmission fluid change because most folks made it seem overly complicated. After watching this, will be easy to do at home with the scan gauge 2. Thanks as always for making it easy and straight forward. As of April 2024, my 2020 is at 112000 miles. Will need you to catch up soon for future long term maintenance. 😂
Nice video. I encourage all 4 runner owners to do this on there own. Save money live better. I'd like to see you do the transmission fluid when the temperature is started cold . Because the temperature rises really fast when the temperature hasn't started when really cold. Cold I mean hasn't been driven.
Great video! I don't have a crazy story or anything. Just the usually mundane shenanigans, but I wanted to comment and drive interaction on this! Going to be fun to watch you crack the 100K mark! Good luck Jason!
Thanks 40,000 miles on my 4Runner did the rear,front diff,also transfer case now it’s time for transmission 🤙🏾you save me $$$ appreciate you time and effort good job
Good video. I notice your fluid pump didn't fit the bottle. It looks like the proper pump to fit Quart bottles but for some reason Toyota's ATF Quart bottles use Gallon size necks and I can confirm the pumps intended for gallon jugs fit fine but the pickup tube needs to be trimmed to fit the Toyota Quart bottle.
@JasonExplainsThings Very well done 👏.. I would like to share with you community that you are fine using other products. I personally use Amsoil Fuel Efficient ATF in my 2013 Tacoma. It is a far better fluid then Toyota WS. Toyota WS is a low viscosity ATF which most if not all manufacturers are adopting.. With all the CAFE regulations that manufacturers have to meet to obtain better fuel economy they have pivoted to using lower viscosity oils. Also please take into consideration where you live. In my area summers temperature can reach up to 110° and that is considered severe conditions and you should consider changing your oil at half the mileage. Which would be 30k. Doing 1 drain and fill every 30k which removes about 1/3 of the oil in the Transmission is perfect in severe cases.. Please do your research when considering other fluids and make sure they meet the specification that manufacturer have put in place. Or you can play it safe and just use OE product. I personally want the absolute best in my truck regardless of price
I Love the red and black interior of your 4Runner. My 23 TRD, Premium came with Black Leather interior and that’s the ONLY thing I HATE about my Tacoma, so I reached out to Katzkin and they made TRD Red Leather seat covers with black trim and stitching. After they took off the factory black leather and replaced it with the TRD RED Leather, I sold the Black Leather to a friend who also owns a 23 TRD OR with Gray cloth interior. Now he’s loving the Black Leather in his TRD.
The fuel induction service is they basically pour the BG cleaner into the intake system through a BG induction device. It’s more beneficial for direct injection system, port injection really does not need it. Of course it will help clean the carbon faster but using your chevron additive will be fine.
Great video, thank you! I have a question about brakes. I replaced the pads only, and kept original rotors and calipers. The rubber boots on the caliper are dry and a little cracked. Do i need to replace the calipers?
Thanks Jason. Noted for future reference. What gets me is the “levels” of service from that dealership and that they didn’t even include everything Toyota required. If that “premier” tier at least did what was required and nothing else, then we could at least debate the value of what they charge.
I used to take my Toyotas to the dealership but after I found out that they didn't even bother to switch my TPMS sensor positions after rotating tires. I started to do my own maintenance right after that.
Awesome Videos! I just changed the front and rear diff oils. Going to do the transfer case oils and re-grease the drive shafts. I'm curious,.....why didn't you drop the transmission pan and change the filter also? What is the recommended time interval on a new transmission filter?
the dealers I've visited in the past for my old Corolla did something similar. would recommend things I didn't need and overcharged for them. I didn't know anything about cars back then, but luckily I declined those services when comparing their list with maintenance schedule that came with the owner's manual. however, for a quick oil change and tire rotation, the prices and service seemed fine, for dealers. that Techron seems to be good stuff based on a lot of reviews that I've read, and I used to use it every year. but I've avoided using Chevron products after the company got a US judge and a "private" prosecutor to jail a US lawyer who successfully sued Chevron in a foreign court
Excellent Video Jason!!! Thank you! Looking forward to doing the upcoming 60k Service on our 2021! Do you have a link to the entire Toyota Service Manual on ebay mentioned in the video?
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I’ve done the EPR,44k, & MOA in my Honda Ridgeline and used full synthetic oil I did notice a huge difference in fuel economy and there was a lot of sludge that was built up bought it used so it does make a difference but vehicle well maintained do not need it until around 100k at minimum
Thanks for the video and I enjoyed it! One thing though, although, shift through all the gears is a necessary step, yet, I don't feel letting wheels to rotate is a good idea (just my opinion).
We did that because the ambient temperature was low and the transmission took a while to warm up... and the vehicle was safely lifted. And as you saw we kept them rotating slowly. But yeah to each their own. Likely not an issue doing this job in the summer.
Great video when should I replace the filter for the transmission? I got 114k on my truck.. Southbay toyota here in LA told me I dont have to replace it. I NEED ADVICE plsss thank you
My 2015 4Runner is nearing 120k miles not sure if the transmission fluid has ever been changed. What would you recommend? I planning on having this vehicle for quite a long time. Thanks 🙏
Watch some videos from the car care nut. He does say if the ATF is never changed for a long time it actually might perform better if you leave it as is. Reason being changing the fluid super late will cause it to slip more. Just expect that the transmission won’t last as long as it could have. But verify all this with his perspective. He’s more on an expert than I am.
A question to any fellow owners. My new 23 4runner has a pulsing vibration while driving. Toyota did a TSB that involves installing a dynamic dampener on the front diff. They say if you still feel it that is normal and they cant do anything else. This does this with both sets of summer and winter tires. Is this something they all do and i shouldn't worry? Thanks in advance
I’m an advisor at a Jeep dealership and that list you showed with the recommended services is just a money grab from BG. I’ve been there for 2 years. When I started, Fuel Induction and Throttle Body services were recommended every 30k miles. They’ve since changed it twice to 20k and now every 15k. There’s no way a vehicle builds that much carbon that it would need either service every 15k. When I did the spark plugs on my 4Runner at 60k, I “cleaned” the throttle body. It was pretty much spotless
Again... going by the recommendation of master mechanics and Toyota's own service manual... if you do the fluid service on time then doing the filter isn't necessary. By all means do it if you feel like it.
Thank you for sharing this valuable information about 60k miles service. I didn’t see the obd2 scanner that you use on the list. I like that feature that it can read transmission oil temp. Do you mind sharing what brand is it? Thanks.
Ok Good job, can you explain why if you drain 3 quarts of fluid, going to add more? …I know when the fluid is hot I’ll expanded, but it you drain after Been set overnight and boths fluid have same temperature…. Why did you add almost one more quarter? Please any razón ….
Pretty clear in the video. You overfill it on purpose to make sure you set the level exactly using the explained procedure: overfill, get it up to temp, open the overflow plug and allow to drain till it slows, you’re done. Pretty simple.
I am a bit confused about the ATF fluid change. You only drained 3 quarts and total system capacity is 11.3, so you still have approximately 7.7 quarts of old fluid in your system. That seems like an incomplete job. Can you explain why this is not an issue?
@@JasonExplainsThings that is an excellent explanation and also lines up with my experience with transmission issues. I have a 4Runner and I was considering a DIY complete flush, you have convinced me that I should save money and probably get more miles on my transmission. The video you recommended reminds me of my Mother’s Lexus. She lives far away and she always listens to her dealer. Her dealer is one of those ‘we don’t service the transmission because it is sealed for life’ places. Unfortunately she started having some serious issues around 100k. Slipping, not shifting, and the dealer said they would happily replace the transmission for an insane amount of money. Luckily my brother in law lives closer and we came up with a plan to slowly introduce new fluid and well we didn’t have anything to lose. So when he visited he would drain and introduce about a quart of new fluid at the cooler. I did the same when I visited. Her problem got better significantly after the first two infusions and completely disappeared after about 6 quarts. Thank you for your knowledge and willingness to help others!
With the transmission cold, can’t you just put back in whatever you drain out? Example can’t you drain the 3 quarts. Then just put back in 3 quarts of new fluid?
Funny my local dealer doesn’t even use factory Toyota WS. They use our local oil company I get my fluid for my shop from.. so they are using non Toyota WS.. but I’m sure they are still charging the Toyota WS price..
I had been fortunate to have a very long standing relationship with a dealership and they look after me very well over the years, except the time they accidentally charged me for 44 spark plugs instead of 4. Sadly that dealership has been bought by a larger conglomerate, and I'm headed down the DIY path too, I'll be using your 30k video in a month or two. ***Techron giveaway only in USA, what a shame. Maybe Canada next time Eh!
Check out the video linked in the description from the car care nut. Apparently if you do a drain and fill every 60k miles, you don’t need to replace the filter… although doing so doesn’t harm anything. It just isn’t necessary.
If my 4Runner has been sitting all day and nite and I drain it and let’s say 3 1/2 quarts came out and I put back exactly 3 1/2 quarts why do I have to mess with the over flow drain plug ?
That’s what I was wondering. In the video he drained 3 quarts out. Why not just add 3 quarts back? This seems super complicated. I’m Not knocking how or why he did it. He’s just going by what the manual says. The stupidest this auto manufacturers ever did was remove the transmission dip stick.
I think you have the part numbers wrong. When showing the O-ring and 2 crush washers. You have them mixed up. In the video you have the O-ring part number as 90130-18008 (1) and it's actually 90430-18008 and that's for the crush washers, not the O-ring. You have the part number correct in the description but have the crush washers and O-ring switched. I just thought I would let you and others know before they try to order them. BTW your videos are some of the best I've seen so thank you for the great detail and INCLUDING torque specs!!!!
My household owns both Toyotas and Hondas - and the experience at the dealerships is quite different. I think Honda put pressure on their dealerships quite a while ago to strictly stick to their maintenance minder system, and I have literally never been “upsold” on useless item, fuels systems cleaners, etc. at a Honda dealership. Sure the prices still have the dealership premium, but they’re not outrageous. Toyota dealerships on the other hand basically throw the service schedule out the window and try to upsell everything. I hope Toyota corporate clamps down on them soon - because as of now Honda has the better service. Which is a shame because Toyota has the slightly better cars.
I do too! Because the vehicles themselves are fantastic, wonderful to drive and easy to work on. I hope some constructive criticism shames the dealer to start doing the right thing… or corporate telling them to knock it off.
@@JasonExplainsThings yep i was wrong. I was looking at a sheet I downloaded somewhere that said spark plugs at 60k but then saw it’s actually not until 120k.
I think I'll pay my local shop to change my tranny fluid, since my truck won't fit in the garage I'm stuck doing it in front of my house, difficult to get perfectly level.
So essentially when your Toyota has only been in for maintenance at a Toyota dealer, you hit 1,000,000, they give you a new car because you’ve already paid for one 😂
Ive also been lied to by dealerships about expensive repairs needed. I didn't fall for it, but i can day they cannot be trusted anymore than a shady tire shop. What a shame.
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Great Review ! Thanks so much. Our last truck was a Ford Ranger XLT super cab 4WD. We worked that truck hard. We didn’t abuse it but it was Worked Hard. I’m a maintenance nut. I changed the front and rear differential, transfer case and transmission fluid every 30K miles. Our Ranger was used for work around our property, so it wasn’t driven often, so every 6 months I’d change the oil and filter with Valvoline full synthetic. We only drove the truck about 3K miles per year, so every 1,500 miles the oil was changed. We sold it in February (2024) for top dollar as the body and interior was in very good condition. The truck had only 36K miles and in was a 2011 year model. I heard that the 24 Tacoma was a Turbo 4 banger and I absolutely DIDNT want a Turbo, so I started looking around for a late model Tacoma. On 2/29/24 I found a 23 Tacoma TRD Off Road, Premium pkg and a 6’ bed. It had only 6K miles on it and though it booked out for $51,500, I bought it for $48K. I retired early and only drive 5-6K miles per year now. I plan on driving my Tacoma until I can no longer drive or I die. I appreciate you sharing that the transmission fluid only needs to be replaced every 60K miles. It won’t see the Hard Work that our Ranger did, as we hire people to do the work around our property to do the hard labor and we now have heavier items delivered to us, up here on our mountain property.
Let’s say my local dealership said my transmission fluid was “lifetime” when I bought it new (before I started turning wrenches) and the original fluid has 135K on it. What would you do?
That is a bummer. Here's a great video on this topic from the Car Care Nut... a Toyota master technician. In short, he recommends leaving the old fluid in place and only adding new fluid if it's low. The video goes into detail why: ua-cam.com/video/jJr30r6RRgw/v-deo.html Your transmission won't last as long as one that did have the ATF serviced from the beginning but you'll still likely get tons of life left in it. Once it starts to slip and have issues, you'll know why.
@@JasonExplainsThings thank you for the response. It is a bummer. I asked many times about the fluid, they always said it was lifetime and just checked the level.
FYI! I got the part numbers mixed up for the transmission drain plug and fill plug. The description has the correct part numbers! Sorry for the confusion. 😅
Great video! I’m a fan of The Car Care Nut as well. He has a video on how to make your Toyota last 300,000 miles. Some of the recommendations he makes are for more frequent maintenance than what is recommended by the manufacturer.
Here are the notes I made:
• Oil every 5k miles or 6 months
• Diff and transfer at 30k, then every 30-60k
• Transmission 60k or 6 y
• Coolant 50k or 5y
• Brake fluid 3-5y
• Power steering fluid (if not electric)50-70k, use power steering fluid not automatic transmission fluid
• PCV valve every 50k
Clean throttle body every 25-50k miles. Will idle high until it has relearned after a few days
Great info! I’ve watched that video of his as well. Thanks for sharing the list. The coolant at 50k is news to me. I’ll need to check that one.
Watched that and just did my 100K service on my camry. First time cleaning the throttle body. Made the rag slightly dirty and no change to performance, but its good piece of mind. Figured I would clean the throttle body on my 98 Ram. Needed multiple rags and scooped the sludge out. Runs a lot better now. The Care care nut has done damage to the service industry lol
How about this quote for 60k service: Front and rear pads (okay, they were due), front/rear differential and transfer case oil, power steering fluid exchange, EFI service because EFI “gummed up” (that’s BS), brake fluid exchange (done 2 yrs ago), alignment (6 months ago), rotate and balance tires (done every 6 months at Discount Tire). All of this goodness for the bargain price of $2300. Again, skipping prop shaft lube and transmission fluid exchange.
I’ve done most of these things myself in recent weeks. You guys and other creators demonstrating how to do these services are a Godsend. Thank you and please keep it up.
🤣Wow! Thanks very much sir. Happy to help.
I think people need a reminder, dealerships make more money on repairs and service than actually selling cars!! Get a cheap socket set, watch some UA-cam videos, do it yourself baby!
DIY!
Great video! I just finished doing everything from your 30,000-mile video on my 4runner, and now I'll have this video to reference in a few years when I hit 60,000 miles. Thanks for these videos!
I literally just did the 30k mile service this afternoon! Your video was extremely helpful, in finding the right parts and how to do it. I’m bookmarking this video for the future! ✌️
Craziest thing I have seen a shop pull was on my wife’s IS300. I now take care of her fluid needs(sorry couldn’t resist), but at the time she had prepaid for oil changes at a local shop. She dropped her car off Monday morning and got a call saying that her car was skipping and they recommended new coil packs and wires. So I had her come to my work and she dropped me off at the shop to pick up her car. The manager walked me to the car, and started it and explained the noise I was hearing was a cylinder not firing. I then explained to him that in fact what we were hearing was two cylinders not firing. I then pulled out an 8mm socket and ratchet and removed the engine cover. I then showed the manager the coil pack that his mechanic had removed a tucked neatly to the side to cause the skip. Remember the engine cover actually makes it impossible for that to have ‘popped off’ as he quickly tried to use as an excuse. I just laughed and told him he was full of it and I was embarrassed for him.
You make some excellent points, Jason. Toyota published a manual in 2023 that can be downloaded. It's called the "Warranty & Maintenance Guide" for the 4Runner. I think this is what you were referring to.
I've modded my truck and going offroad does increase stresses and shortens intervals between certain maintenance items. Depending on the lift and tire size/weight, CV axles might have to be replaced much more often. This maintenance guide does point out what needs to be addressed if you go off road. The other thing to remember, according to The Car Care Nut and David at Automotive Press, if you want to keep your vehicle for a long, long time (300K miles or more), change your engine oil and filters every 3,000 miles. If you "only" want it for 250K miles or less, change the oil every 5,000 miles.
The best part, Jason, you made this look easy, worthwhile and fun. Thanks!
I think I figured out why that dealer was so expensive and not quite on point. According to the DEA and ATF, Yakima is a hub for national/international drug activity. I think that whoever gave your father that quote was high.
I'm an auto technician of 15+ yrs , I highly recommend changing the ATF at a shorter interval , 35-40k is better , plus upgrading to a fully synthetic fluid like Valvoline maxlife is a must . Toyota WS fluid is mediocre at best , its non synthetic made by mobil . As a general rule I always suggest cutting the oem fluid intervals in half for better piece of mind .
I 100% agree Toyota WS is mediocre. I use Ravenol ATF Fluid T-WS.
Interesting. If you guys have any sources I’d love to check them out. Haven’t heard this before.
Fwiw I was told the same thing for my g37 - the manual said to use the Nissan fluid, but my mechanic recommended the Valvoline, never had an issue using it
Premium (91) fuel is NOT better than regular/87. Your dad is wasting money using ‘premium’ gas. Octane is just a measure of resistance to knock, NOT a measure of quality. Tier 1 gas stations are ‘quality’ and THIS is what you/your dad should be using, but only 87 octane is needed since that is what the engine is designed for (ie: low compression, not turbo, etc). Save $ and go to Tier 1 stations and use 87!
So... it's slightly more complicated than that. The 4Runner and Tacoma's ECU adjusts with what octane you run and 91 gives you slightly more horsepower and MPG... but not much. For instance, the HP and torque ratings from Toyota for the 4Runner are running premium fuel.
You're not wrong that good quality (top tier) gas is more important than octane. I personally vary it up depending on the price. If premium is way more expensive then the benefits don't make sense... frankly premium doesn't make sense most of the time. But my old man is a bit set in his ways.
I've personally noticed about 1-2 MPG better on road trips using 91... but again, the benefit is extremely small.
I’ve noticed a slight increase as well, but not enough for the cost difference. I typically only run premium when driving up the mountain passes here in Colorado when I know I’ll be on the go peddle.
If your car doesn't recommend premium, then you're just flushing money down the toilet.
Octane's resistance to pre detination only helps to increase horsepower with appropriate compression. An ecu can adjust for fuel flow rate, but unless you raise compression, or advance engine timing, the premium fuel serves no purpose. Using premium fuel in an engine that is not designed for it will cause no harm, but is not good advice.
My 2013 FJ is closing in on 60K. I will definitely be doing this myself, although I will need a few extra tools as well. Great content!!
Took mine to the dealer for transmission fluid change because most folks made it seem overly complicated. After watching this, will be easy to do at home with the scan gauge 2. Thanks as always for making it easy and straight forward. As of April 2024, my 2020 is at 112000 miles. Will need you to catch up soon for future long term maintenance. 😂
How much did the dealer quote you
Nice video. I encourage all 4 runner owners to do this on there own. Save money live better. I'd like to see you do the transmission fluid when the temperature is started cold . Because the temperature rises really fast when the temperature hasn't started when really cold. Cold I mean hasn't been driven.
Great video!
I don't have a crazy story or anything. Just the usually mundane shenanigans, but I wanted to comment and drive interaction on this! Going to be fun to watch you crack the 100K mark! Good luck Jason!
Thanks 40,000 miles on my 4Runner did the rear,front diff,also transfer case now it’s time for transmission 🤙🏾you save me $$$ appreciate you time and effort good job
Did my rear diff fluid change at 35K miles. Wasn't nearly as dirty as I thought. Get 3 quarts.
Good video. I notice your fluid pump didn't fit the bottle. It looks like the proper pump to fit Quart bottles but for some reason Toyota's ATF Quart bottles use Gallon size necks and I can confirm the pumps intended for gallon jugs fit fine but the pickup tube needs to be trimmed to fit the Toyota Quart bottle.
I don’t own a 4Runner but I definitely want one in the near future! 4Runner or GX460 😍
@JasonExplainsThings
Very well done 👏.. I would like to share with you community that you are fine using other products. I personally use Amsoil Fuel Efficient ATF in my 2013 Tacoma. It is a far better fluid then Toyota WS. Toyota WS is a low viscosity ATF which most if not all manufacturers are adopting.. With all the CAFE regulations that manufacturers have to meet to obtain better fuel economy they have pivoted to using lower viscosity oils. Also please take into consideration where you live. In my area summers temperature can reach up to 110° and that is considered severe conditions and you should consider changing your oil at half the mileage. Which would be 30k. Doing 1 drain and fill every 30k which removes about 1/3 of the oil in the Transmission is perfect in severe cases.. Please do your research when considering other fluids and make sure they meet the specification that manufacturer have put in place. Or you can play it safe and just use OE product. I personally want the absolute best in my truck regardless of price
I Love the red and black interior of your 4Runner.
My 23 TRD, Premium came with Black Leather interior and that’s the ONLY thing I HATE about my Tacoma, so I reached out to Katzkin and they made TRD Red Leather seat covers with black trim and stitching.
After they took off the factory black leather and replaced it with the TRD RED Leather, I sold the Black Leather to a friend who also owns a 23 TRD OR with Gray cloth interior.
Now he’s loving the Black Leather in his TRD.
Thanks for not blacking out the dealership. People need to know how shitty they are.
The fuel induction service is they basically pour the BG cleaner into the intake system through a BG induction device. It’s more beneficial for direct injection system, port injection really does not need it. Of course it will help clean the carbon faster but using your chevron additive will be fine.
Awesome video….. doing this service early is ok as well. I like to. Change fluids early and then do it again At the recommended interval. Great video.
Great video, thank you! I have a question about brakes. I replaced the pads only, and kept original rotors and calipers. The rubber boots on the caliper are dry and a little cracked. Do i need to replace the calipers?
I believe you can get those boots by themselves. At least I have with other vehicles.
Thanks Jason. Noted for future reference. What gets me is the “levels” of service from that dealership and that they didn’t even include everything Toyota required. If that “premier” tier at least did what was required and nothing else, then we could at least debate the value of what they charge.
I used to take my Toyotas to the dealership but after I found out that they didn't even bother to switch my TPMS sensor positions after rotating tires. I started to do my own maintenance right after that.
Great video- thank you! Our 4Runner is nearing 60k, I’ll do the maintenance myself!
Enjoy your videos. Thank you for taking the time to do so. Oh btw, I have eibach stage 2 leveling kit as well. Non R kit. Great kit
It’s an awesome setup. 👍
Awesome Videos! I just changed the front and rear diff oils. Going to do the transfer case oils and re-grease the drive shafts. I'm curious,.....why didn't you drop the transmission pan and change the filter also? What is the recommended time interval on a new transmission filter?
According to the car care nut, you don’t need to change the filter as long as you keep up on the fluid interval.
Maybe at 120k? No hard rule that I’m aware of.
My local Subaru dealer skips recommended maintenance items and replaces them with other procedures too! Seems to be common
Could you use ngli #2 marine grease on The propeller shafts?
Hey where u get that drain bucket from ?
the dealers I've visited in the past for my old Corolla did something similar. would recommend things I didn't need and overcharged for them. I didn't know anything about cars back then, but luckily I declined those services when comparing their list with maintenance schedule that came with the owner's manual. however, for a quick oil change and tire rotation, the prices and service seemed fine, for dealers.
that Techron seems to be good stuff based on a lot of reviews that I've read, and I used to use it every year. but I've avoided using Chevron products after the company got a US judge and a "private" prosecutor to jail a US lawyer who successfully sued Chevron in a foreign court
Nice glad you pointed out exactly where the fill hole was guy
The worst part is the dealership won’t perform 1/4 of what’s on that estimate.
Hey brother, can you do a 5th gen 4Runner video on changing the Oil Control Valve filters? Enjoying the channel! Thanks.
Excellent Video Jason!!! Thank you! Looking forward to doing the upcoming 60k Service on our 2021! Do you have a link to the entire Toyota Service Manual on ebay mentioned in the video?
Here's a link: www.ebay.com/itm/305469721552?itmmeta=01HSSEA77KKEFX9RE6MT8NMDYJ&hash=item471f6a0bd0:g:ZCEAAOSw47xl~s6S&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA0HPpKj0EwBYQt0JfMv2JKT%2FvbRos45fCnncikHzRY4BOHHVOTl3xc0Eu5T8gRpvDPhYeP3ozgepPG7DMGJzUO5WyhU%2FMHaU6t0PhkwD1Gz2s5PfiDDuSsEWZwxjGlX5aK1FzuWAcVOnIUV%2Ff%2BMktZUAtGQaLHLy6I0%2FFCXKYrOUhBviIQRhNqE8tKD%2BuYf115Ste9KteBf8cegUdKnsC7%2F%2BTyHW94iXx0WnmbeoF4fV9FGk%2BjmEQE%2BYZfJeYDL7VSeowDyv5OhxcaufEhHDYoWo%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_zzqK7OYw
Awesome!! Thank you So much Jason! :~)@@JasonExplainsThings
I have a 2018 4-Runner. My scan tool doesn't show transmission temp. Any suggestions?
Why not pull the transmission reservoir pan and replace the filter too?
Might be a silly question but would this service also be the same for my 5trh gen TRD PRO? Didn't know if anything would change... Thank you!!!
Bro this video is amazing, I am so glad you have this video up!!
I’ve done the EPR,44k, & MOA in my Honda Ridgeline and used full synthetic oil I did notice a huge difference in fuel economy and there was a lot of sludge that was built up bought it used so it does make a difference but vehicle well maintained do not need it until around 100k at minimum
Thanks for the insight. 👍
When you change the filter?
Jumper wire method for checking AT temp does not work for push button start models
Thanks for the video and I enjoyed it! One thing though, although, shift through all the gears is a necessary step, yet, I don't feel letting wheels to rotate is a good idea (just my opinion).
We did that because the ambient temperature was low and the transmission took a while to warm up... and the vehicle was safely lifted. And as you saw we kept them rotating slowly. But yeah to each their own. Likely not an issue doing this job in the summer.
What camera and gear do you use for videos?
Do you have the link to order the service manual?
It’s on eBay and comes and goes.
Great video when should I replace the filter for the transmission? I got 114k on my truck.. Southbay toyota here in LA told me I dont have to replace it. I NEED ADVICE plsss thank you
If you keep on doing a drain and fill every 60k you likely won’t need to replace it… according to Toyota master tech.
@JasonExplainsThings Hello Thank you so much for your adviced. This is my second drain and fill. I really appreciate it.
My 2015 4Runner is nearing 120k miles not sure if the transmission fluid has ever been changed. What would you recommend? I planning on having this vehicle for quite a long time. Thanks 🙏
Watch some videos from the car care nut. He does say if the ATF is never changed for a long time it actually might perform better if you leave it as is. Reason being changing the fluid super late will cause it to slip more. Just expect that the transmission won’t last as long as it could have. But verify all this with his perspective. He’s more on an expert than I am.
A question to any fellow owners. My new 23 4runner has a pulsing vibration while driving. Toyota did a TSB that involves installing a dynamic dampener on the front diff. They say if you still feel it that is normal and they cant do anything else. This does this with both sets of summer and winter tires. Is this something they all do and i shouldn't worry? Thanks in advance
What happens if I don't do the 104°-113 over flow flush???
Thanks for the video! 👍
What model seat covers do you have on the 4Runner?
They are Carhartt made by CoverCraft
I’m an advisor at a Jeep dealership and that list you showed with the recommended services is just a money grab from BG. I’ve been there for 2 years. When I started, Fuel Induction and Throttle Body services were recommended every 30k miles. They’ve since changed it twice to 20k and now every 15k. There’s no way a vehicle builds that much carbon that it would need either service every 15k. When I did the spark plugs on my 4Runner at 60k, I “cleaned” the throttle body. It was pretty much spotless
I've seen others say to drop the transmission pan and replace the filter, gasket and clean off magnets... Curious why you didn't.
Again... going by the recommendation of master mechanics and Toyota's own service manual... if you do the fluid service on time then doing the filter isn't necessary. By all means do it if you feel like it.
Is the transmission fluid good for another 60,000 miles if you only put 3qts of new fluid in the transmission?
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Thank you for sharing this valuable information about 60k miles service. I didn’t see the obd2 scanner that you use on the list. I like that feature that it can read transmission oil temp. Do you mind sharing what brand is it? Thanks.
It’s in the description. 👍
Thank you. I missed that one.😅
What do you recommend for the transfer case oil? the Toyota oil is like freaking gold. Too expansive. any other sub for the oil? cheers
I talk about that at length in the 30K maintenance video. 👍
Ok Good job, can you explain why if you drain 3 quarts of fluid, going to add more? …I know when the fluid is hot I’ll expanded, but it you drain after Been set overnight and boths fluid have same temperature…. Why did you add almost one more quarter? Please any razón ….
Pretty clear in the video. You overfill it on purpose to make sure you set the level exactly using the explained procedure: overfill, get it up to temp, open the overflow plug and allow to drain till it slows, you’re done. Pretty simple.
Thanks , I’m ready to do my, I’m waiting for the fluid and the code reading scanner for the right temperature
All hail The Car Care Nut!
Yes!
Do you do the initial drain when the trans is at operating temp or cold?
I don’t think it matters. Just make sure the vehicle isn’t running of course.
love this thanks for the info i'm hoping to do this to my Wifes 4runner :)
Where do you go for your wheel alignments?
If you're in Central WA then I'd suggest Franks Tire in Union Gap. The guys that work there drive lifted Toyota's... they rock.
The scanner you link in your details says it for Honda or Nissans
Yep. I noted that in the description. Apparently the Toyota version is out of stock but is supposed to be available again early this month.
I am a bit confused about the ATF fluid change. You only drained 3 quarts and total system capacity is 11.3, so you still have approximately 7.7 quarts of old fluid in your system. That seems like an incomplete job. Can you explain why this is not an issue?
To answer this question I suggest watching this video starting at 8 minutes in:
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@@JasonExplainsThings that is an excellent explanation and also lines up with my experience with transmission issues. I have a 4Runner and I was considering a DIY complete flush, you have convinced me that I should save money and probably get more miles on my transmission. The video you recommended reminds me of my Mother’s Lexus. She lives far away and she always listens to her dealer. Her dealer is one of those ‘we don’t service the transmission because it is sealed for life’ places. Unfortunately she started having some serious issues around 100k. Slipping, not shifting, and the dealer said they would happily replace the transmission for an insane amount of money. Luckily my brother in law lives closer and we came up with a plan to slowly introduce new fluid and well we didn’t have anything to lose. So when he visited he would drain and introduce about a quart of new fluid at the cooler. I did the same when I visited. Her problem got better significantly after the first two infusions and completely disappeared after about 6 quarts. Thank you for your knowledge and willingness to help others!
Awesome story! Thanks for sharing. Great advice for anyone who might’ve missed a service or bought a used vehicle.
With the transmission cold, can’t you just put back in whatever you drain out? Example can’t you drain the 3 quarts. Then just put back in 3 quarts of new fluid?
That’s what I do and no issues yet.
Sorry, if I'm going to go through the trouble of making a how-to video I'm going to take 10 minutes and find out how to do it correctly.
@@JasonExplainsThings you do a great job. I was just wondering why they make you do all this unnecessary stuff.
Do you have a link to the scanner? ID rather not scramble my brain with fluid check mode. A bit complicated.
It’s in the description but here’s the link:
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Funny my local dealer doesn’t even use factory Toyota WS. They use our local oil company I get my fluid for my shop from.. so they are using non Toyota WS.. but I’m sure they are still charging the Toyota WS price..
I had been fortunate to have a very long standing relationship with a dealership and they look after me very well over the years, except the time they accidentally charged me for 44 spark plugs instead of 4. Sadly that dealership has been bought by a larger conglomerate, and I'm headed down the DIY path too, I'll be using your 30k video in a month or two. ***Techron giveaway only in USA, what a shame. Maybe Canada next time Eh!
Many thanks and sorry about the Techron thing. Have had some fun adventures with Canadians. 👍
Is it the same procedure for a 2021 toyota tacoma 3.5L ??
I’d doublecheck but I believe so. Some of the part numbers might be different.
when does toyota say to change the transmision filter?
Check out the video linked in the description from the car care nut. Apparently if you do a drain and fill every 60k miles, you don’t need to replace the filter… although doing so doesn’t harm anything. It just isn’t necessary.
He’s a Toyota master technician so I personally trust his advice.
That is good to know I’ll check him out thanks for the info and awesome video screw the crappy dealers :)
I live in Pittsburgh! haha not sure how to tag...
Where u get that bucket
Lowe’s I believe.
If my 4Runner has been sitting all day and nite and I drain it and let’s say 3 1/2 quarts came out and I put back exactly 3 1/2 quarts why do I have to mess with the over flow drain plug ?
Your vehicle. Work on it however you want. But with something like this I'd follow the factory procedure.
That’s what I was wondering. In the video he drained 3 quarts out. Why not just add 3 quarts back? This seems super complicated. I’m Not knocking how or why he did it. He’s just going by what the manual says. The stupidest this auto manufacturers ever did was remove the transmission dip stick.
Not changing the filter? Is that at a higher mileage?
It doesn’t hurt to change it but it’s not necessary if you keep up on service intervals (according to Toyota master techs).
My TRD Pro is hitting 60K soon! I'll need to do this!
Nice! This video plus the 30K one will give you all the info you'll need. It's a lot of steps but not that bad.
Thanks Jason! @@JasonExplainsThings
Why did you NOT change the transmission filter? Thumb down on your fluid change....
Thank you for this video guys. Man, am I done with dealerships. They are nothing but con-artist, out to steal people's hard earned money.
C’mon pops. Our 1GR-FE was engineered for 87 octane.
I’m surprised you even let him touch his own vehicle 😂
I think you have the part numbers wrong. When showing the O-ring and 2 crush washers. You have them mixed up. In the video you have the O-ring part number as 90130-18008 (1) and it's actually 90430-18008 and that's for the crush washers, not the O-ring. You have the part number correct in the description but have the crush washers and O-ring switched. I just thought I would let you and others know before they try to order them. BTW your videos are some of the best I've seen so thank you for the great detail and INCLUDING torque specs!!!!
Appreciate it. I believe the notes I was working off of might’ve been messed up. I’ll update the description so it’s correct. 👍
I like you and your dad, thumbs up and subscribed
My household owns both Toyotas and Hondas - and the experience at the dealerships is quite different. I think Honda put pressure on their dealerships quite a while ago to strictly stick to their maintenance minder system, and I have literally never been “upsold” on useless item, fuels systems cleaners, etc. at a Honda dealership. Sure the prices still have the dealership premium, but they’re not outrageous.
Toyota dealerships on the other hand basically throw the service schedule out the window and try to upsell everything. I hope Toyota corporate clamps down on them soon - because as of now Honda has the better service. Which is a shame because Toyota has the slightly better cars.
I do too! Because the vehicles themselves are fantastic, wonderful to drive and easy to work on. I hope some constructive criticism shames the dealer to start doing the right thing… or corporate telling them to knock it off.
Spark plugs?
Not yet. But when we get there in mileage I’ll cover them.
@@JasonExplainsThings yep i was wrong. I was looking at a sheet I downloaded somewhere that said spark plugs at 60k but then saw it’s actually not until 120k.
As a former Lexus/toyota tech. That is based off a 3rd party company that sells those interval services.
Need a video of what to do to a 5th Gen 4R at 367,xxx miles..
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I think I'll pay my local shop to change my tranny fluid, since my truck won't fit in the garage I'm stuck doing it in front of my house, difficult to get perfectly level.
So essentially when your Toyota has only been in for maintenance at a Toyota dealer, you hit 1,000,000, they give you a new car because you’ve already paid for one 😂
When your dad's phone got a notification, thats when i paused the vid and subscribed
You need to level the tranmission, not the bottom of the pan.
Ive also been lied to by dealerships about expensive repairs needed. I didn't fall for it, but i can day they cannot be trusted anymore than a shady tire shop. What a shame.
60k miles, sounds like it just finished its break-in period haha!... Anyways thanks for all the tips on the services
I looked on eBay for the service manual but for my '21 and other 5th gens, all I see are owners manuals😢
Here's a link: www.ebay.com/itm/305469721552?itmmeta=01HSSEA77KKEFX9RE6MT8NMDYJ&hash=item471f6a0bd0:g:ZCEAAOSw47xl~s6S&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA0HPpKj0EwBYQt0JfMv2JKT%2FvbRos45fCnncikHzRY4BOHHVOTl3xc0Eu5T8gRpvDPhYeP3ozgepPG7DMGJzUO5WyhU%2FMHaU6t0PhkwD1Gz2s5PfiDDuSsEWZwxjGlX5aK1FzuWAcVOnIUV%2Ff%2BMktZUAtGQaLHLy6I0%2FFCXKYrOUhBviIQRhNqE8tKD%2BuYf115Ste9KteBf8cegUdKnsC7%2F%2BTyHW94iXx0WnmbeoF4fV9FGk%2BjmEQE%2BYZfJeYDL7VSeowDyv5OhxcaufEhHDYoWo%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_zzqK7OYw
Thank you very much!!!
But how the hell do I turn off the oil maintenance alert that they forgot to reset at my 60,000 mile service?!?!?
If you have a 4th gen hold the button thingy by the speedometer while the car turns on for a few seconds
Great Review !
Thanks so much.
Our last truck was a Ford Ranger XLT super cab 4WD.
We worked that truck hard. We didn’t abuse it but it was Worked Hard.
I’m a maintenance nut.
I changed the front and rear differential, transfer case and transmission fluid every 30K miles.
Our Ranger was used for work around our property, so it wasn’t driven often, so every 6 months I’d change the oil and filter with Valvoline full synthetic. We only drove the truck about 3K miles per year, so every 1,500 miles the oil was changed.
We sold it in February (2024) for top dollar as the body and interior was in very good condition. The truck had only 36K miles and in was a 2011 year model.
I heard that the 24 Tacoma was a Turbo 4 banger and I absolutely DIDNT want a Turbo, so I started looking around for a late model Tacoma.
On 2/29/24 I found a 23 Tacoma TRD Off Road, Premium pkg and a 6’ bed.
It had only 6K miles on it and though it booked out for $51,500, I bought it for $48K.
I retired early and only drive 5-6K miles per year now. I plan on driving my Tacoma until I can no longer drive or I die.
I appreciate you sharing that the transmission fluid only needs to be replaced every 60K miles.
It won’t see the Hard Work that our Ranger did, as we hire people to do the work around our property to do the hard labor and we now have heavier items delivered to us, up here on our mountain property.
See the Car Care Nut about pink coolant change.
Amazing. Are you going to do a 100k?
Toyota says Coolant service after the 1st 100k and every 60k, thereafter. Imo, it should be performed every 60k.
Can’t hurt. Only service that harms your vehicle from doing it too often is the transmission.
Amé este video.
This has gotten a little complicated, having a dipstick to measure oil lvl was easy, but we got to roll with the times
Let’s say my local dealership said my transmission fluid was “lifetime” when I bought it new (before I started turning wrenches) and the original fluid has 135K on it. What would you do?
That is a bummer. Here's a great video on this topic from the Car Care Nut... a Toyota master technician. In short, he recommends leaving the old fluid in place and only adding new fluid if it's low. The video goes into detail why: ua-cam.com/video/jJr30r6RRgw/v-deo.html
Your transmission won't last as long as one that did have the ATF serviced from the beginning but you'll still likely get tons of life left in it. Once it starts to slip and have issues, you'll know why.
@@JasonExplainsThings thank you for the response. It is a bummer. I asked many times about the fluid, they always said it was lifetime and just checked the level.
Thanks!
After dealing with Toyota and listening to this video I feel like the dealers are not great