Kerbal Space Program - The Magic Ladder (to Eve and back)

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  • Опубліковано 16 гру 2023
  • A kerbal on a ladder has its mass and drag ignored by the parent craft, which is obviously very powerful for mass optimization. This craft can do an Eve return in under 4 tons. Mass without kerbal and without cargo is 3996 kg; mass with cargo but without pilot is 4061 kg.
    This is very similar to, but distinct from, the ladder kraken drive. The only force exerted on the lander is from propellers and engines (and air resistance). However the basic principle is similar - a kerbal cannot transfer force to a ladder, so in this mission the kerbal is effectively massless and dragless, while in a kraken drive it can push against another part and create an unbalanced force. This should be legal under the standard low mass rule set, although I wouldn't be surprised if the rules were changed afterward.
    Thanks to Ultimate Steve for discovering this and showing me.
    Music: Sung - Cosmic Road
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  • @Borv413
    @Borv413 6 місяців тому +115

    This is certainly some scraping off the optimization barrel

  • @casualology.
    @casualology. 6 місяців тому +76

    madness as always, the flag entry shield was insane

  • @griffonatrix
    @griffonatrix 6 місяців тому +26

    And here I was seeing the thumbnail and thinking "wow, a four-ton Eve ascent that's impressive!"

  • @Boomchacle
    @Boomchacle 6 місяців тому +35

    Wow, this might make eve and back in 80 days a bit easier for people who actually want to do it

    • @proxima_fish
      @proxima_fish  6 місяців тому +13

      This craft uses DLC rotors and this technique may be difficult with stock propellers

    • @Boomchacle
      @Boomchacle 6 місяців тому +1

      @@proxima_fish Yeah maybe

  • @Le_Petit_Lapin
    @Le_Petit_Lapin 5 місяців тому +12

    Telekinetic wizard goes to Eve.

  • @Kerballistic
    @Kerballistic 6 місяців тому +9

    This is incredible work! Flag heat shield was something I never even thought of!

  • @oberonpanopticon
    @oberonpanopticon 6 місяців тому +8

    Someday the quest for less weight is gonna circle back around to the pre-1950s concepts for saving weight on rockets when specific impulse was *really* low. Stuff like combustible fuselages and cellular staging. Probably not possible to to in stock KSP but eh, not my problem.

  • @JYF921
    @JYF921 6 місяців тому +13

    Hm I’ll assume one day rocket chair to Eve and back is possible

  • @Yaivenov
    @Yaivenov 6 місяців тому +3

    Min/maxing the game to the most extreme degree. Incredibly impressive work.

  • @leonardobonanno5115
    @leonardobonanno5115 6 місяців тому +4

    Very impressive, I am happy to see more KSP channels showing that the bondaries of rocket design can be pushed to the next freaking level.
    It was cool that you used orbital construction as it makes ship designs even more interesting.
    Also I didn't know that you could use flags as heat shields, I will surely keep that in mind for my next missions!

  • @jedoesstuff9086
    @jedoesstuff9086 6 місяців тому +6

    the silliness is mounting, improvements are counting (idk)

  • @joshrocketlaunches
    @joshrocketlaunches 6 місяців тому +4

    This is absolutely insane, incredible job

  • @Monkiiengineer
    @Monkiiengineer 6 місяців тому +4

    Anyways time to revolutionize the low mass grand tour again

    • @proxima_fish
      @proxima_fish  6 місяців тому +2

      With this trick (just on the Eve lander) and a couple ascent optimizations that are in this video but I didn't mention, the mass goes below 7 tons. And it'll get even lower if magic ladder is used on all the other landers as well.

  • @marchill4851
    @marchill4851 6 місяців тому +2

    beautifully designed

  • @justageekygamer
    @justageekygamer 6 місяців тому +3

    this is insane!

  • @kerbalengineeringsystems7415
    @kerbalengineeringsystems7415 6 місяців тому +2

    Amazing mission!

  • @FinnBuildsThings
    @FinnBuildsThings 3 місяці тому +2

    Deserves more than 10k views

  • @ivansysoev8298
    @ivansysoev8298 5 місяців тому +2

    That's a stairway to heaven! :)

  • @birksimon1213
    @birksimon1213 6 місяців тому +2

    Here before this video blows up

  • @frogross
    @frogross 20 днів тому +1

    Bro made a space scooter

  • @TheLoganatorz
    @TheLoganatorz 4 місяці тому +1

    Incredible optimization😆

  • @Kurgutt
    @Kurgutt 6 місяців тому +2

    Pushing the limits beyond the limits, beyond the li... ?
    GG ^^ very impressive ❤

  • @zihanzhu1651
    @zihanzhu1651 6 місяців тому +1

    Pure insanity but good job!

  • @slavaukrainisfs8238
    @slavaukrainisfs8238 6 місяців тому +2

    why dontcha have more views and subs? Ya totally deserve more :)

  • @somedude4805
    @somedude4805 4 місяці тому +1

    Niiiiiiice!

  • @albertnewton8296
    @albertnewton8296 22 дні тому +1

    How did I never realise before that you can change MechJeb settings while paused?

  • @logolorin
    @logolorin Місяць тому +1

    I love KSP but I don't understand anything of what you guys are doing in these crazy videos. How you do it is also a mystery to me. Still, very entertaining to watch.

  • @Spooglecraft
    @Spooglecraft 6 місяців тому +1

    ah yes, breaking ksp physics so hard it's basically magic or alien tech

  • @lapis7145
    @lapis7145 27 днів тому +1

    watched this while listening to Mozart 2x Speed Left Ear | Bible In Chinese Right Ear

  • @heshamsobhi2197
    @heshamsobhi2197 14 днів тому +1

    The chuck Norris of Space 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Sledgeskitty
    @Sledgeskitty 6 місяців тому +2

    actually impressive, now what if you attempt to go to eve, moho, and eeloo using this new trick?
    its challenging but i have hope
    good luck my fren :D

  • @El_Presidente_5337
    @El_Presidente_5337 Місяць тому +1

    Wow.
    NASA should hire you.

  • @weirdmontagesfromgames5953
    @weirdmontagesfromgames5953 5 місяців тому +1

    bro hold ladder for 14+ years

  • @gwagabogo
    @gwagabogo 20 днів тому +1

    Yowza

  • @peterwengert588
    @peterwengert588 6 місяців тому +1

    Super cool! Does the kerbal occlude the part of the rocket beneath it and negate drag on the front face?

    • @proxima_fish
      @proxima_fish  6 місяців тому +1

      There's no drag occlusion unfortunately

  • @NEINNEINNEINNEIN1
    @NEINNEINNEINNEIN1 5 днів тому

    all you need to go to eve is a kal controller,fuel tank and 2 smallest engines but this bullshit is pretty damn close

  • @Wise_Snowy
    @Wise_Snowy 6 місяців тому +1

    Hey what mod did you use to get that background of space in the actual game?Or is it some setting?

    • @proxima_fish
      @proxima_fish  6 місяців тому +1

      It's a skybox replacer called Pood's Calm Nebula, you can get it off CKAN.

    • @Wise_Snowy
      @Wise_Snowy 6 місяців тому +1

      @@proxima_fish Sick. Thanks!

  • @baactiba3039
    @baactiba3039 6 місяців тому +1

    How does this compare to all previously known kraken drives?

    • @proxima_fish
      @proxima_fish  6 місяців тому +4

      It's not a kraken drive. I'm not getting any impulse for free, simply getting more out of the rockets that I already have.

    • @baactiba3039
      @baactiba3039 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@proxima_fish oh that's crazy, I didn't realize

  • @mathis_lgr_
    @mathis_lgr_ 5 місяців тому +1

    Hello, what is the mod for the engine flames?

    • @proxima_fish
      @proxima_fish  5 місяців тому +1

      Waterfall by Nertea and Stock Waterfall Effects by KnightofSaintJohn

  • @minecraftminecraft3580
    @minecraftminecraft3580 6 місяців тому +1

    Ok do 3 tons

  • @GuybrushKerman
    @GuybrushKerman 6 місяців тому +1

    This game is broken in the best way possible

  • @KaifamGaming
    @KaifamGaming Місяць тому +1

    holy shit bro this is insane, go work at spacex please..

  • @davidsooley6548
    @davidsooley6548 6 місяців тому +1

    Wack

  • @alpharocketry1831
    @alpharocketry1831 4 місяці тому +1

    now do it in real life😂