All your Gundams are belong to us. - Lacus Clyne, probably Kakarot’s notes: - As with the GUAIZ and Dreadnought Development History video, Latin names are pronounced the Latin way I was taught (I slipped up on Balaena though) - The segment at 09:28-09:45 is me giving my explanation for Kira’s canonical godlike status. (And it was the perfect way to show off a much better candidate for piloting the Strike Freedom) - 0:52: Unlike some weapons in UC, weapons in CE don’t have their power rating disclosed, so it’s difficult to say exactly which weapons are the most powerful. But at the time, it’s safe to say that the Balaena Plasma Beam Cannons were amongst the strongest around when the Freedom rolled out. Even during the second bloody valentine war, I’d argue that they still ranked amongst the top, although competition was getting steeper.
I think on its own, the cannons are alright but the thing that really makes it the best was the nuclear power source. You can kinda say that the same goes for the Strike Freedom's abdomen beam cannon where it is touted as being as strong as the Destiny's (the most cutting edge suit ZAFT essentially have at that time and thanks to that I'm assuming its the best) even though it is from the Abyss.
Before the Perfect Strike was an actual thing, I thought Freedom represented the Strike with all it's packs. It's Balaena Cannons from the Launcher's Cannon, the wings from the Aile pack, and it's beam sabers and the ability to go double-ended for that Sword presence, I guess (yeah, I'll have to ask the me who first saw the Freedom what the reasoning was behind that).
@@tatsuyah4695 It actually was the whole basis for Kira's next suit. Believe it or not the Destiny was supposed to be his next suit but somewhere along the lines of production they changed it to the Freedom. You can really see this on Destiny's sword design where it is essentially the Sword Strike's sword.
@@rightsideup6304 Huh, interesting. So was Shinn supposed to have the Legends? Still would have made an anticlimatic final fight, unfortunately since it'll still boil down to the reused Freedom vs Providence already.
You forgot one of the most important features of the Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice. They looked so similar to their older models that it allowed Sunrise to keep reusing animations for them.
And also in seed destiny zaft soldier were frightened because they think that the strike freedom is litterally the freedom and then think that he was invincible and à ghot who haunthed them😂😂😂
I dont know whether to applaud Lacus and her faction on their penchant for stealing high value assets so quickly, or shake my head at Zaft's lack of security or incompetence lol.
Well, can't blame ZAFT for that, because Klein faction was quite prominent and highly influencial player in ZAFT politics. I'm pretty sure that they had their part in developing weaponry for ZAFT.
@@paulskiye6930 agreed, maybe I'm just laughing at the meme about Zaft being the one faction that seems to lose their machines the most. They really do have a bad luck streak, no matter the circumstance. Whether during Zala or Durandals term made little effect on the Clyne Faction grabbing data or the machines to make their own, and both times were machines that altered the war against them.
Well, when you had such insiders like Yzak, it makes sense that the Clyne Faction could possibly have enough people in high enough places to steal data on the new tech. Rau was able to sneak the data for improved MS tech to Azrael for the creation of the CPU trio's Gundams (the way he sent off the N-Jammer Canceller data through Flay was more high-profile and not his smartest plan), so what's not to say Lacus had people in similarly high positions that could do the same. But for actually stealing MSs like the Gaia, since the one Andy used is apparently the exact same one Stella stole and used, well, I guess those sympathizers and insiders were good.
I am leaning towards the latter considering that trio of Gundams that got stolen at the start of SEED Destiny that Lacus wasn't involved with. Frankly it's amazing their opposition doesn't just steal all of ZAFT's mobile suits instead of trying to blow them up.
I bet it went something like: Engineer A: So how many guns should we put on the Strike Freedom? Engineer B: Yes... Engineer A: You know they're not going to all fit, right? Engineer B: That's what the METEOR's are for...
lets be honest, the meteor is a streamlined gp03. and the best auxiliary system in the franchise alongside it. it looks sleek, looks powerful and even without seeing it with its missile doors open you can see how much more powerfull the machines become after docking to it. now compare it to the gn arms, and their cofin design. or the falcon from X. one looks like a joke, and the other looks like it doesnt really do anything for it.
Just watched Seed and Destiny for the first time the last couple of months. Surprised how active and interested the fan base is for this nearly 20 year old series. Good video makes me want to rewatch the Seed again.
dude, seed no joke is the reason gundam exists today. people often dont understand how important seed is. and its literaly one of, if not THE biggest seller and most popular in the franchise. there's a reason why every year they release so many SEED stuff. its kidna hilarious, they do SEED, UC and then put the rest in the box of NOT SEED/UC.
Correction on the Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice Acquisition: The Clyne Faction/Terminal only acquired the technical data related to their development, not the actual machines. The incomplete data was already available during the development of ZGMF-X09A and ZGMF-X10A since development of ZGMF-X19A and ZGMF-X20A were also done in parallel to them. The latter machines were not completed in time due to limitations on the DRAGOON system and other technical issues. The Clyne Faction stole the data and deleted it from ZAFT servers and they continued the development of these Mobile Suits later on, using the operational data of Kira and Athrun, and they've also incorporated the latest Mobile Suit Tech developed by ZAFT.
Well to be fair they did finally manage to hide the Destiny and Legend long enough for them to use ... although they seem to have misplaced the Gaia and co.. (twice for the gaia as even it's blueprint got snatched by lacus o/)
@@trollinoakenshield9822 If you pay attention you can see the gaia is actually still stored in the minerva when the destiny and legends takes off untill the end
@@maeshg1969 sry but i think you're mistaken, cuz i can't find that scene anywhere. According to wiki gaia is shipped back to PLANT for repair but somehow klepto clyne able to snatch it.
Wait there's CWIS guns on the Infinite Justice's chest? I've got the HG and I never realized that! In other thoughts, I don't think Lacus is a evil Mastermind. I now think she's a Kleptomaniac, because dang she stole a lot of stuff. We need a side story that's just the antics of master thief Lacus Clyne, pulling a casino heist or something.
Sooo.... Lacus employs a squad of Blood Ravens space marines. That's now my canon on how she constantly just walks into Zaft armories and walks out with their top secret super mechs and spaceships
It's not that the Klein faction stole the plans they actually stole the scientist that were working on it aka the scientist deffected to the Kleint's faction
All of them literally join the Terminal, so it's very likely SF and IJ really tailored for Kira and Athrun because their development team are Lacus' agents.
CB or rather Gundam 00 is really just the real plot for Destiny before it got botched by the writer since she wanted to ruin Cagali's and Shinn's VA (there was a rumor that she was seducing her husband, the creator/director, and Shinn's VA defended Cagali's VA)
@@thatmotivatedchris6749 They meant the development tree. Because of how the development project for the gundams split into multiple routes and isn't linear
@@anathel5882 that's a complete lie and just shows you know nothing about gundam00. The exia tree also includes all the Astraea models that were the predecessor to the exia used to test the technologies used in the GN swords and GN blades, as well as the development of the Avalanche system which also was a prototype and test for the technology used in the GN arms system.
I loved how the infinite justice was unassuming and less imposing than the original and then all its beam blades would light up and mess you up. Seeing it destroy destiny was one my favorite scenes. Edit: can we also get one for the akatsuki please.
kinda makes me wish they did something similar with the wing zero and deathscythe, since they look like an angel and a demon respectively but thats just me spit balling my thoughts
@@meow-meow-beans I wanna say the closest we got in terms of complementary units in gundam wing was the red and blue units who's names I forgot/can't spell and maybe heavy arms and Sandrock with heavy arms being more long range and sandrock having more melee focused armaments
they kinda were, the wing was a dedicated hit and run, long range unit, with the deathscythe being a dedicated assassination, close quarters combat. its just that the series never took the idea to its natural conclusion. if you look at them tactically, its very clear that they were meant to be used together, the wing would draw atention, and shoot down things from afar, while the DS would come close from behind and take down important targets.
"Knight Justice" imo sounds way cooler. I won't mind "Infinite Justice" though if the Strike Freedom was called the "Eternal Freedom" instead. (y'know to keep it thematic) Super Freedom sounds cliche; Strike Freedom isn't bad, but "Sky Freedom" or "Soaring Freedom" would have sounded way better.
@@echos5823 The reason the Strike Freedom is not the 'Super Freedom' is because, in Japan there was once a notorious rape gang called 'Super Free.' With Gundam's SEED's creators having seen the possible negative impact by mere association to the name promoting a rape gang, they decided to change it & honor the Strike Gundam. If it were the Super Freedom, Jesus Yamato would have been #metoo'd & cancelled.
@@marcosdheleno Seed is still my favorite universe hands down the coolest. It is not perfect sure but what is? Number of awesome and impactful emotional moments in this series is the highest. And suit designs are the coolest by far across the whole CE they really had it going with the Astray etc as well.
This video was randomly showed in my recommendations. But it was worth it. I get to reminisce this awesome series. Even though I’m a Freedom/Strike Freedom dude, I will never forget how Athrun’s infinite Justice one-shotted the Destiny with a kick. Lmao. Kira and Athrun together were truly unstoppable
As i remember the strike freedom was in development alongside the freedom but was cancelled due to the dragoon system and other stuff not working. Which I'm assuming was instead just turned into the providence. Then the strike freedom had its production restart during the 2nd war with kira being the intended pilot in mind.
Find yourself a girl that will give you a Gundam, an entire warship designed to store said Gundam, give you an upgraded version of said Gundam after it got destroyed, and still gave you the freedom to do whatever you want with it and support you all the way.
The names that the strike freedom and infinite justice do sound superior, I still love the used names because it made me think an individual must strike their ideal freedom without causing problems, and a society must give an infinite and indifferent justice to all. In accordance to Kira's and Athrun's wishes, Kira wants to free everyone from the war, and Athrun wants to justify ones wishes.
i wonder what's the name of the new machines for the movie, my bet is, perfect freedom and ideal justice.either that or infinite freedom and strike justice...
@@marcosdhelenothe code for new justice is night justice, and for freedom is super strike freedom, that's the raw plan, maybe they would change it later on before the movie begin
I must say it's really cool seeing the technical details of the SEED units. I feel like Seed and its sequel displayed alot but didn't go too much into detail on the technology on the suits themselves. It's interesting to see this kind of matter explained
i always felt like the opposite, it showed us the progression of the tech, and the behind the scenes. compare it to 00 which we only see it refueling once during the early parts of the first series, and then we hear how the twin drives have exponential more power, but the machine doesnt really act like its that much more powerfull than its sister units. when it comes to the freedom and justice, not only do you look at it and notice at first glance how much more powerfull it is compared to the strike, the tech feels far more important to the story, with the batteries always being an issue earlier on, and the canceller being shown how much more power it brings to the table. also, the best part is, we see the natural progression, you can see where the freedom weaponry and the justice fatum came from, long before those units became a thing. and we always hear about how impactful the inability to use nuclear power is for the suits.
Can you do a development history of the Ultimate/Devil Gundam??? Including the Dark Army The 4 Evil Kings - Master Gundam - Soaring Raven Gundam - Grand Gundam - Walter Gundam and the Gundam heads
It surprised me how much Lacus actually matured over the series. It was obvious from the beginning that she was highly intelligent, but she was also extremely naive. It took awhile for her to gain enough experience to become worldly and put her intelligence to work where it belonged and could do the most good for the world and everyone in it. When she took everything of value and escaped and allied herself with ORB, which she knew was on the correct path, She managed to turn everything around with the help of Athrun and Kira and everyone else that was once enemies and changed the world view to willingly follow her.
that's the best part, SHE DIDNT. she always played herself as the oblivious little princess. but go back and watch her first showing, she was "bumbling around" a military ship as a PoW. and she made everyone think she was harmless. she could literaly sabotage the entire ship if she wanted and noone would be able to do anything, or even know.
@@marcosdhelenonot to mention she could predict zaft movement, in destiny she herself said that after the alliance lost the fight, zaft next target would be orb, she said that to the crew in archangel so they rush in to go to orb even sacrificing freedom on the process
not sure it is a blessing that a certain pink-haired lady manages to steal all the powerful super weapons, the outcome of the war would have turned ugly if they were fall into the 'wrong' hands.
Honestly, I think it's possible that Zaft would never have used Genesis had they not lost these machines. Meteor equpped Freedom and Justice would have had no problems shooting down the nuclear missiles from the alliance and then ripping the the Alliance fleet to shreds.
@@heavyarms55 Rau would find a way to mess things up and help the Alliance. Afterall if it wasn't for him the Alliance wouldn't have any reason to fire nuclear missiles in the first place and they would have no hope of doing anything against ZAFT's new MS. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut without Kira and Athrun pilotting the druggies trio could've actually won against the Freedom and the Justice.
"they don't need to blow up a entire base to steal a suit XD" *I look back on past series and events* I literally don't even know how to process that right now..........
@@soramikami4383 I would think it appropriate to have them initially monoeyed just like how the Gundam Mk II was originally black. They would be changed when they switch factions as an "upgrade".
i still defend that they should start with monoeyes, and the strike would lose its head, possibly during the rescue pod fight, and then be given a modified strike, or astray head. that would been perfect. and the sadest part is, zaft has some of the coolest monoeyes.
The guy who made Freedom and Justice be like: (Listens Colors by FLOW) well, I'm loyal to the Clynes so I'm helping her. Lacus: uh Albert, your Geass is showing.
The name, "Super Freedom Gundam" for an upgraded Freedom Gundam makes sense from a real world standpoint, and mirrors real-world aircraft nomenclature. For example, the F/A-18E Super Hornet is an upgraded version of the F/A-18 Hornet. By the same token, the name "Strike Freedom Gundam" also mirrors real-world nomenclature, one example being the F-15E Strike Eagle, an updated variant of the F-15 Eagle. As for the name "Knight Justice Gundam," I guess that was later reused for Build Divers Re:Rise.
The Strike Freedom was originally called the "Super Freedom" but the name was later changed, and some fans speculated it was due to the Super Free incidence in 2003.
It's like a running gag at one point. I'm pretty sure that none of the gundam suits in all of Seed and Destiny stayed with the respective people who created them. Do they got wheel locks for gundams or something, cause sure seems easy to steal them.
@@andrewowens4421 Not true. One unit the ORB 01 Akatsuki remained within Orb forces for its entire appearance on the show. Cagalli loaned it to Mu after she launched it because he was a better pilot and she was needed on Earth while the suit was needed in space. And Mu was stationed aboard the Archangel which was a commissioned Orb fleet ship now and was the flagship of their fleet when they went to assault Requiem and Messiah.
@@andrewowens4421 The Destiny, Legend and Providence are the only gundam with the Impulse to not switch hands in Zaft, and knowing how much of a cleptomane Lacus is that's an impressive feat (but tu impulse is so weak in comparison she probably saw it and went meh)
hope the Providence's development history is tackled one day, since it somewhat is like the 3rd of this trio back in SEED... well at least that's the impression the Master Grades gave off when I got them before watching SEED
@@matteste Honestly, it's more the extreme plot armor Kira himself has that makes the (Strike) Freedom appear so OP, similar to Heero and the Wing Gundam Zero, coupled with the more super robot style action their series' tend to engage in as opposed to "real robot". When looking at the mobile suit's actual power and such, they're pretty equivalent to late Universal Century Gundams like the F91 and Victory 2. A real Mary Sue Gundam would be more the Unicorn Gundam or Turn A Gundam, lol.
@@HalfDemonInuyasha Mary Sue is more than plot armor. It is also that the character is blatantly favored by the narrative, plot armor is just one part of it. Being portrayed as some superior moral pillar is another common sign, a character shown to be without flaws and always shown as morally right, regardless whether their virtue actually makes sense. Basically, the Mary Sue is virtuous cause the story says so, not cause they actually show it or earn it. And any character that question said virtue are shown to either be wrong or evil. Mary sue's are also magnets for other characters to get jealous at as they are so good at everything, that others just want what the Mary Sue has. Another common trait tends to be that they are overly special, that they have things that no one else in the story has or can compete against. Even their clothing, or in this case the Machine, are often made to stand out and be overly designed again to make them special. There is a lot that goes into a Mary Sue, and it just so happen that Kira alongside Lacus and their machines tick all the boxes.
@@uandresbrito5685 cause it is fighting barbatos rex with it is nanomalite armors, which is immune to beam type attack. And the dragoon is the only thing strike freedom has to use as physical weapon.
Hi Kakarot, I was building my Nu gundam when it got me thinking, the Nu gundam and Sazabi are designed and built specifically for Amuro and Char (at least I think), unlike most other "custom" machine where a MS is modified for someone. Is there any other machines that are built specifically for someone's use?
the gundams from 00 ,the zeta gundam and the 72 gundam frames(at the beginning of the calamity war ) and those are only the gundams that I can remember
8:30 "You know, your stuff would be a lot cooler if it wasn't so easy to steal" retired General Jack O'niell, moments before he was also stolen from Zaft
I’d highly love it if you cover the development history of all the mobile suits by Celetial Being, the machines from the AD era always intrigued me. I know it’s a lot to cover but I love how you explain the tech specs and history in these videos.
I think one edge the S Freedom and I Justice had over the Destiny was that they had more armament options that didn't require the hands/manipulators to operate. So far as I recall, all the Destiny's weapons, including it's back mounted folding beam canon required the aid of the hands to aim and handle. Simply put, a de-limbed/un-handed Destiny may still be speedy, but it is severely reduced in effectiveness, even with just one arm missing.
I think when someone design destiny (in Bandai headquarters or zaft design team), they took the best part of impulse upgrade power system, but forgetting impulse armaments are interchangeable system. And they remember and re design it in destiny impulse
It’s like the two Gundams were specifically made for 2.5D Bullet Hell Shoot em up arcade that guzzles quarters down faster than the average lifespan of a GINN facing both of them at once. It’s all there. Freedom’s a wide-shot type with firepower covering the screen. Justice is the straight-shot type with more focused damage on single targets. Both have a melee weapon that’ll erase bullets, a unique backpack gimmick that can act as their Bomb attack, and both have access to a major power-up that is the METEOR units. Most important of all, both of them actually do have the firepower and the juice to sustain them long enough to get away with wiping out the entirety of a military force all by themselves provide their pilots are that good at not getting hit.
you know what's hilarious? real story, the reason i started watching SEED was because i saw the moebius zero in the first episode and it looked straight up like a fighter from something like r-type or raiden. its design was something you know you would see in a shmup. and it instantly hooked me up. my favorite design in the franchise, up until i saw the freedom.
@@suncanny1418 For me,it's not worse,just unappealing with the beam cannon in its stomach. Also,what get's my blood boiling is that the designers never thought to put DRAGOONS on the Freedom first! I would've loved it way more!
Holy crap someone else that thinks this! Personally I like the touch of gold and the dragoons, but I admit that it makes the already pretty over powered Freedom that much more invincible. That and it feels like whoever designed it just said screw it, arm it with everything. It feels too busy for me. The OG Freedom was overpowered but it's much simpler of a design, something I like about it.
@@vhalnir861 To me,it's more for aesthetic,but either way,it's nice to see someone not praising the Strike Freedom for once. And I hate the fact that it doesn't have the the shoulder cannons. That's what I like most about the Freedom! And the Freedom just seems screwed over by not having things like DRAGOONs and the Voiture Lumiere!
I'm the opposite, i dislike the Freedom, but really like the SF. The plasma cannon on the wings and the cannon on the side skirt (it's too long) always make me uncomfortable. As for Justice, i don't like the way the wings on the backpack folded, i'm glad they changed it in IJ
This video should be titled "Unfortunately for Zaft" due to the sheer amount of important thing they seem to misplace Although If I remember correctly the Strike freedom and infinite justice Are built directly for Kira and Asran By Lacus and her rogue arm factory hidden in an asteroids ( the same one where they hid the eternal, they mention the factory being hidden there when they launch in destiny )
The only fact I know about Strike Freedom(I don't know if it's confirmed or what) is that it is the only machine in the series that did not sustain any damage.
It didn't. It got hit by the Legend at one point, but blocked with beam shields and went off-balance in the atmosphere and was about to be shot in the back by the Destiny(probably would've dodged anyways but whatever). That was the closest it got to "being hit". Also didn't lose a single DRAGOON.
As I remember when reading the Gundam Seed manga, Freedom is a mobile suit that was built for long-term combat purposes, a mobile suit that can fight for a long time period on the battlefield without worries about supplies, because of that, various types of weapons were implanted in Freedom and nuclear fusion as a source of its energy. so that in battle freedom can always be ready to fight without thinking about the supply of fuel and ammunition.
that's why it makes sense for it to only carry beam weaponry. its meant to be a suit that doesnt refuel, its kinda hard to do that with missiles and other physical artilhery. even then they had a rail gun which accelerates tinny pieces of metal at high speed, so it can carry ALOT of ammo. finally, its a dedicated mid to long range suit, only carrying minimal close combat tools, as the justice is the opposite, being designed to defend the freedom from any wannabe striker. its the best paired sister units in the franchise. and we see it not just in their designs but also in their synergy. compare it to other pairs like the heavyarms and sandrock or the wing and deathscythe. units that would work amazingly well together, but barely do so. or the heavyarms from wish and the "we have wing at home" from X. they do pair well, but still feel like its missing something because one is a hit and run and the other is a long ranger... both missing a third close range striker to either pull agro or to defend a position for them to do their jobs...
These videos are really nice for SEED! There's so many friggen variants it's hard to keep them all straight. They go from Aegis to Justice to Infinite Justice to Immortal Justice to Infinite Justice type II and my brain is just like NANI!?
i kinda love how the thefts happen. its kinda hilarious how each of them is so completely diferent from one another but they still happen so often you would think there's something wrong with them for letting it happen. the first was done by rau who traded the info with the federation in the first place. the second happened because of lacus position behind the scenes. the third was less of a theft and more of a defection. the fourth was due to spies that infiltrated the place and the defection of another high ranking officer. the fifth was planned from their own side as an excuse to start the next war. the sixth was stolen data and manpower, so it was more like another defection.
14:38 I found out about the the ♾ justice original name being knight justice but changed because it’s was used already but the strike freedom being super freedom is new to me
makes me wonder what they will call the new units in the movie. infinite freedom and strike justice? eternal freedom and meteor justice? super freedom and aegis justice? neverending freedom and perfect justice? freedom bringer and justice enforcer?
Another fun fact: They're the only Mobile suits that Kira and Athrun piloted that didn't get absolutely totaled or destroyed by the end the end of the series.
@@neovoltron25 if you are talking the fatum from the infinite justice, then you are confusing it, it got destroyed when it was rammed into the minerva's engine.
Looking forward for an updated version Seed Freedom movie to cover the Rising Freedom, Inmortal Justice, as well as the (Mighty) Strike Freedom Type II and Infinite Justice Type II. *W*
![Strike Gundam Development History [Original & Orb] (Part 1/3)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/v0nEDnyDYnw/mqdefault.jpg)
All your Gundams are belong to us.
- Lacus Clyne, probably
Kakarot’s notes:
- As with the GUAIZ and Dreadnought Development History video, Latin names are pronounced the Latin way I was taught (I slipped up on Balaena though)
- The segment at 09:28-09:45 is me giving my explanation for Kira’s canonical godlike status. (And it was the perfect way to show off a much better candidate for piloting the Strike Freedom)
- 0:52: Unlike some weapons in UC, weapons in CE don’t have their power rating disclosed, so it’s difficult to say exactly which weapons are the most powerful. But at the time, it’s safe to say that the Balaena Plasma Beam Cannons were amongst the strongest around when the Freedom rolled out. Even during the second bloody valentine war, I’d argue that they still ranked amongst the top, although competition was getting steeper.
I think on its own, the cannons are alright but the thing that really makes it the best was the nuclear power source. You can kinda say that the same goes for the Strike Freedom's abdomen beam cannon where it is touted as being as strong as the Destiny's (the most cutting edge suit ZAFT essentially have at that time and thanks to that I'm assuming its the best) even though it is from the Abyss.
Knight justice for me please
Before the Perfect Strike was an actual thing, I thought Freedom represented the Strike with all it's packs. It's Balaena Cannons from the Launcher's Cannon, the wings from the Aile pack, and it's beam sabers and the ability to go double-ended for that Sword presence, I guess (yeah, I'll have to ask the me who first saw the Freedom what the reasoning was behind that).
@@tatsuyah4695 It actually was the whole basis for Kira's next suit. Believe it or not the Destiny was supposed to be his next suit but somewhere along the lines of production they changed it to the Freedom. You can really see this on Destiny's sword design where it is essentially the Sword Strike's sword.
@@rightsideup6304 Huh, interesting. So was Shinn supposed to have the Legends? Still would have made an anticlimatic final fight, unfortunately since it'll still boil down to the reused Freedom vs Providence already.
Zaft: We created powerful Gundams which can be used to tip the balance in our favour
Clyne: You mean *OUR* favour
Siegel Clyne's ghost: flipping the bird to Patrick Zala.
You would assume that given the huge threat those two machines where that everybody would stop the war kill them and resume.
@@IronWarhorsesFun you mean like what happened in Gundam 00 because that makes sense
@@ninjartist36 YES EXACTLY!
@Hikaru shidou Thats what they did in oo but then oo had a much better story behind it.
You forgot one of the most important features of the Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice. They looked so similar to their older models that it allowed Sunrise to keep reusing animations for them.
Loll
And also in seed destiny zaft soldier were frightened because they think that the strike freedom is litterally the freedom and then think that he was invincible and à ghot who haunthed them😂😂😂
Z.A.F.T: *makes literally anything*
Lacus: Is for me?
This fricking girl right here..... *Beware the innocent-looking ones!* 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lacus Clyne - full-time pop singer, part-time professional thief
Exactly and to think Lacus easily stole those powerful Gundam and spaceships
And the best part of it: She got away with everything at the end.
@@WackyWeasel0211 I mean what do you expect, Scooby and the gang never made it to space to meddle in her plans.
They’ll never see it coming
Not to mention being the supreme chairman after the 2nd bloody valentine war 🤣
Lacus: How many beams do you want
Kira: Yes
Kira: how many do you think i want? thats not enough
@@K41-g6p Lacus: But that’s all the beams in the world
@@tararitter6163 Kira:i am Kira 'jesus aimbot mcbeamspam' yamato. There is always more beams
@@K41-g6p So Kira is to beams what a Warhammer 40K Ork is to Dakka?
One Irish lad: Amatuer!
Kakarot is doing everything he can to not build that RG Zeta
Lol it's not even that bad.
Not gonna lie the rg Zeta is most disappointing rg gundam out of the rg gundam line.
i think you mean, Finish/Fix the Zeta. It was in a pile of pieces on Friday's Gundam News video on the Chair.
@@stevenhida wdym is not that bad
@@stevenhida The Zaku II was way more of a pain for me. The plastic of the head cracked and the pipping was a bitch.
I dont know whether to applaud Lacus and her faction on their penchant for stealing high value assets so quickly, or shake my head at Zaft's lack of security or incompetence lol.
Well, can't blame ZAFT for that, because Klein faction was quite prominent and highly influencial player in ZAFT politics. I'm pretty sure that they had their part in developing weaponry for ZAFT.
@@paulskiye6930 agreed, maybe I'm just laughing at the meme about Zaft being the one faction that seems to lose their machines the most. They really do have a bad luck streak, no matter the circumstance. Whether during Zala or Durandals term made little effect on the Clyne Faction grabbing data or the machines to make their own, and both times were machines that altered the war against them.
@@darkwolf5869 They started it. Lol.
Well, when you had such insiders like Yzak, it makes sense that the Clyne Faction could possibly have enough people in high enough places to steal data on the new tech. Rau was able to sneak the data for improved MS tech to Azrael for the creation of the CPU trio's Gundams (the way he sent off the N-Jammer Canceller data through Flay was more high-profile and not his smartest plan), so what's not to say Lacus had people in similarly high positions that could do the same.
But for actually stealing MSs like the Gaia, since the one Andy used is apparently the exact same one Stella stole and used, well, I guess those sympathizers and insiders were good.
I am leaning towards the latter considering that trio of Gundams that got stolen at the start of SEED Destiny that Lacus wasn't involved with. Frankly it's amazing their opposition doesn't just steal all of ZAFT's mobile suits instead of trying to blow them up.
Knight Justice...So that's where Re:Rise got the idea. Still, amazing fact filled video as always!
So you didn’t know??
That names make some sense the the official ones
@@mafty6446 he probably did not watch seed
More specifically its based on infinite Justice.
So they just reused an unused name from years ago
Zaft leader: not to self, upgrade security, too many things have been stolen, even the banana loaf I had just finished baking.
Then he receives an email.
Clyne: "It was great, you should open a bakery."
@@andrewowens4421
Audio Log:
Kira: Babe, compliments to the chef! This is yummy.
Lacus: Now, which is yummier: that or me?
@@Vali_Z4ne😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂😂
Kudos to the one Sunrise writer that held on to the "Knight Justice" for years until they were able use it for GBD Re:Rise.
I bet it went something like:
Engineer A: So how many guns should we put on the Strike Freedom?
Engineer B: Yes...
Engineer A: You know they're not going to all fit, right?
Engineer B: That's what the METEOR's are for...
I read Engineer B's line with Larry Foulke's voice in my head.
lets be honest, the meteor is a streamlined gp03. and the best auxiliary system in the franchise alongside it. it looks sleek, looks powerful and even without seeing it with its missile doors open you can see how much more powerfull the machines become after docking to it.
now compare it to the gn arms, and their cofin design. or the falcon from X. one looks like a joke, and the other looks like it doesnt really do anything for it.
Just watched Seed and Destiny for the first time the last couple of months. Surprised how active and interested the fan base is for this nearly 20 year old series. Good video makes me want to rewatch the Seed again.
20 year old ser... Oh god my hip!
Seed was my first gundam series back in 2002 and it will always going to be my favorite. Its just good and the nostalgia also keep it alive.
dude, seed no joke is the reason gundam exists today. people often dont understand how important seed is. and its literaly one of, if not THE biggest seller and most popular in the franchise.
there's a reason why every year they release so many SEED stuff. its kidna hilarious, they do SEED, UC and then put the rest in the box of NOT SEED/UC.
Correction on the Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice Acquisition:
The Clyne Faction/Terminal only acquired the technical data related to their development, not the actual machines.
The incomplete data was already available during the development of ZGMF-X09A and ZGMF-X10A since development of ZGMF-X19A and ZGMF-X20A were also done in parallel to them. The latter machines were not completed in time due to limitations on the DRAGOON system and other technical issues.
The Clyne Faction stole the data and deleted it from ZAFT servers and they continued the development of these Mobile Suits later on, using the operational data of Kira and Athrun, and they've also incorporated the latest Mobile Suit Tech developed by ZAFT.
Zaft: Sooo another was stolen, wanna keep making em?
Zaft Boss: No don't, it will always magically be stolen to Jesus Yamato's and its crew
Well to be fair they did finally manage to hide the Destiny and Legend long enough for them to use ... although they seem to have misplaced the Gaia and co.. (twice for the gaia as even it's blueprint got snatched by lacus o/)
@@maeshg1969 actually that's the same gaia, got stolen again n painted orange
@@trollinoakenshield9822 If you pay attention you can see the gaia is actually still stored in the minerva when the destiny and legends takes off untill the end
@@maeshg1969 sry but i think you're mistaken, cuz i can't find that scene anywhere.
According to wiki gaia is shipped back to PLANT for repair but somehow klepto clyne able to snatch it.
@@trollinoakenshield9822 I'll get back to you when I motivate myself to watch it for the 4th time this year X)
ZAFT: *Super Mobile Suit Prototype Exists*
Lacus Clyne: Hippity Hoppity this mech is now my Property
Oh god my mind read that in her voice and now I'm dying xD
Zaft started the gundam stealing game. Karma
@@Xaito Stealing mobile suits must just be in the culture
"heavily armed Freedom gundam" that sounds so USA
Not helping is the theme naming of the SF/IJ being a GWOT reference: OEF was initially called _Operation: Infinite Justice_ IIRC.
Then what country would be the Justice Gundam... China?
@@grasshopper3995 probably the Netherlands, where the international court lies.
@@grasshopper3995 IRONY is that the "FREEDOM" gundam statue is currently built in china
They believe justice is always infinitely on their side.
ZAFT needs to really up their security protocols cause they lost alot of things stollen from them
They should have used Nord VPN... insert Shameless cash grab🤣👍
Probably she planned the betrayal very early, and prepared the plan carefully to steal the MS
They simp for lacus
@@none-q4o cue Master Plan from the PAYDAY OST
somthing i found kind of funny, Zaft stole 4 gundam the Aegis, Blitz, Buster and Duel then the clyne faction also stole 4 gundams
Zaft: we have the best Mobile Suits
Lacus: WE??
Librarian: You don't deserve the mobile suits.
Wait there's CWIS guns on the Infinite Justice's chest? I've got the HG and I never realized that!
In other thoughts, I don't think Lacus is a evil Mastermind. I now think she's a Kleptomaniac, because dang she stole a lot of stuff. We need a side story that's just the antics of master thief Lacus Clyne, pulling a casino heist or something.
Was thinking much the same. "The Clyne and the Furious", "Lacus' Eleven", "The Castle of Zala". Oh the possibilities.
What's worst, didn't she also became the new leader at the very end? So she technically took everything ZAFT... No, the whole PLANT have...
that's why lacus is the best female in gundam, she was a master manipulator.
Ngl, I wanna see Catwoman Lacus now thanks to your idea.
Lacus Clyne robbing the Diamond Casino and Resort?! That's something I'd like to see.
For being neutral and anti-war themselves, the junk guild weirdly seems to know how to make every weapon better 😂😂😂
It's how they stay neutral. You really want to fuck with a group who can make any weapon they see tens times better.
@@andrewowens4421 that's actually the mentality of ORB too. Kinda like Nuclear Deterrence.
A wise king never seeks out war, but must be always ready for it.
If you only have a few suits you need to make sure each suit is worth twenty of the enimies
@@Aceshot-uu7yx junk guild produces and sells civilian astrays
They have plenty of MS
ZAFT:- Develops new Mobile Suit Technology.
Lacus:- Is for me???
Love this whole team, their entire mission was just to battle the worst of the worst in their timeline
CE's version of AEUG and by Destiny would be compared to Londo Bell.
Lacus probably played the entire GTA series reason how she got those gundams insanely easy
Grand Theft Gundam: SEED/SEED DESTINY edition.
Oh my god! You're right! She's the ultimate *GUNDAM SMUGGLER!!!!!* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sooo.... Lacus employs a squad of Blood Ravens space marines. That's now my canon on how she constantly just walks into Zaft armories and walks out with their top secret super mechs and spaceships
Is she a *heretic?*
Well Zaft has a shit loads of Clyne faction spies in their bases and Zaft doesn’t know Lacus’s secret identity until she and Kira stole the Freedom
Blood raves?!
(Whispers) Lock down the reliquary
Or she cut a deal with Trazyn
Zaft stole the 4 original gundam and the karmic universe took that personally
It's not that the Klein faction stole the plans they actually stole the scientist that were working on it aka the scientist deffected to the Kleint's faction
All of them literally join the Terminal, so it's very likely SF and IJ really tailored for Kira and Athrun because their development team are Lacus' agents.
"Just once I'd like to go up against a god mode mobile suit we didn't pay for" - Some random Zaft captain.
All this years and Gundams franchise nothing compare to Kira saving Archangel with Freedom .Goosebumps
The Nu Gundam isn't just for show. Remember that
@@jerusivandenolong3480 and the unicorn has an even more amazing feat, time travel
Lacus klien's ability to steal just about anything after completion is really scary!!😂😂
Celebrity at day and female spy at night (with her gene ability)........XD
Chairwoman Lacus? No, it's Empress Lacus. Only shady organization like the Librarian can strike fear in her.
*clyne
Lol even Kira lol 😂
And as this one guy said above, *She doesn't even need to destroy any HANGER BASES when she does it!*
Lacus is kinda chad you know, she stole many awesome MS and give it to her BFS
and also a battleship
@@Markus-zb5zd oh yeah etarnal too. damn she is crazy hahaha
Lacus stealing Gundams and making the Nightmare of Solomon very proud
Does that mean Andrew Waltfeld is also Lacus' BF?
Afterall, she also get to steal the Gaia Gundam for him...
@@coffeedaddy5694 nah
Man... its possible you make a Exia tree? I love to know all things about Celestial Being Gundam.
CB or rather Gundam 00 is really just the real plot for Destiny before it got botched by the writer since she wanted to ruin Cagali's and Shinn's VA (there was a rumor that she was seducing her husband, the creator/director, and Shinn's VA defended Cagali's VA)
You mean Exia Repair iii ?
@@thatmotivatedchris6749 They meant the development tree. Because of how the development project for the gundams split into multiple routes and isn't linear
Well exia tree is just exia with it's repair line up
While raiser and Qant came from different trees
@@anathel5882 that's a complete lie and just shows you know nothing about gundam00.
The exia tree also includes all the Astraea models that were the predecessor to the exia used to test the technologies used in the GN swords and GN blades, as well as the development of the Avalanche system which also was a prototype and test for the technology used in the GN arms system.
I loved how the infinite justice was unassuming and less imposing than the original and then all its beam blades would light up and mess you up. Seeing it destroy destiny was one my favorite scenes.
Edit: can we also get one for the akatsuki please.
no joke, the IJ is the best ninja gundam design there is. SO MANY HIDDEN WEAPONS.
Zaft: Stole 4 Gundam once
Everyone else: Continuously stole from Zaft onwards.
Zaft: Wait that’s not how this game supposed work !
Karma's a Bitch!
Seed is far from perfect but I still love the crap out if it and am excited for the future projects. Great video as always!
Love how you put Merilyn in the Strike Freedom.
Where?
@@rikoaries 9:30 in the top right corner
@@IronSheepEngine Thanks.
Now I can imagine Kira deciding to let Meyrin pilot the SF for shits and giggles.
kinda makes me wish they did something similar with the wing zero and deathscythe, since they look like an angel and a demon respectively but thats just me spit balling my thoughts
yeah, they never made them complementary units which would’ve been so cool
@@meow-meow-beans I wanna say the closest we got in terms of complementary units in gundam wing was the red and blue units who's names I forgot/can't spell and maybe heavy arms and Sandrock with heavy arms being more long range and sandrock having more melee focused armaments
@@relmofvoid8646 Mercurius (red) and Vayeate (blue)
@@KyriosMirage thank u yes those are what I mean. Man their names are hard to spell
they kinda were, the wing was a dedicated hit and run, long range unit, with the deathscythe being a dedicated assassination, close quarters combat.
its just that the series never took the idea to its natural conclusion. if you look at them tactically, its very clear that they were meant to be used together, the wing would draw atention, and shoot down things from afar, while the DS would come close from behind and take down important targets.
Are you going to make a development history on the the other seed gundams that ZAFT developed like the Impulse and Destiny
"Knight Justice" imo sounds way cooler.
I won't mind "Infinite Justice" though if the Strike Freedom was called the "Eternal Freedom" instead. (y'know to keep it thematic)
Super Freedom sounds cliche; Strike Freedom isn't bad, but "Sky Freedom" or "Soaring Freedom" would have sounded way better.
no wonder why we got Justice Knight from rerise :0
@@echos5823 The reason the Strike Freedom is not the 'Super Freedom' is because, in Japan there was once a notorious rape gang called 'Super Free.' With Gundam's SEED's creators having seen the possible negative impact by mere association to the name promoting a rape gang, they decided to change it & honor the Strike Gundam. If it were the Super Freedom, Jesus Yamato would have been #metoo'd & cancelled.
Well, with the newly announced Gundam Seed Movie, we might just be getting that name after all
Azure Freedom!
@@adr.001...Out of all the names they could have chosen for their vile gang they chose that?
This vid came out at the right time! Only just finished rewatching SEED and realising it was better than i thought, but still bad at alot of things.
Seed was alright, if strange. (Aincrad Arc, basically)
Seed Destiny, on the other hand, is a lesson in poor management and wasted potential.
to be fair no gundam series is perfect, even the og and zeta have massive problems here and there.
@@marcosdheleno Seed is still my favorite universe hands down the coolest. It is not perfect sure but what is? Number of awesome and impactful emotional moments in this series is the highest. And suit designs are the coolest by far across the whole CE they really had it going with the Astray etc as well.
Love the mech design of the SEED series, but I sleep big on the story. It's just not interesting to me personally.
@@DeadSpaceWing Funny enough the story kinda appeals to me more than Wing or 00... I actually fell asleep on Wing XD
Anavel Gato : I stole a nuclear warhead equipped mobile suit with such ease!
Lacus : Ara~ Hold my Haro please.
METEOR units being deployed while Lacus Clyne's doing her speech was the best part of Gundam Seed.
Why there is no system or weapon named S.P.A.M., it would be perfect for them! XD
You sir are a genius
Superior
Projection
Armament
Manifestation
@@vel0xraperio Nice!
Strike Freedom backpack system:
Suppressive
Power
Armament
Module
Infinite Justice backpack system:
Superior
Platform
Assault
Module
Does it comes with egg, sausage and bacon?
Finally!!!
A talk about my Favorite Gundam...... The Freedom......
Without a 5 Minute to 2 Hour Rant about it's Pilot.
Thank You!!!!
I like the original Freedom more. Twin shoulder cannons FTW!
Jedi jc mine too
This video was randomly showed in my recommendations. But it was worth it. I get to reminisce this awesome series. Even though I’m a Freedom/Strike Freedom dude, I will never forget how Athrun’s infinite Justice one-shotted the Destiny with a kick. Lmao. Kira and Athrun together were truly unstoppable
As i remember the strike freedom was in development alongside the freedom but was cancelled due to the dragoon system and other stuff not working. Which I'm assuming was instead just turned into the providence. Then the strike freedom had its production restart during the 2nd war with kira being the intended pilot in mind.
Find yourself a girl that will give you a Gundam, an entire warship designed to store said Gundam, give you an upgraded version of said Gundam after it got destroyed, and still gave you the freedom to do whatever you want with it and support you all the way.
Nice touch using Justice and Freedom ost, gave me big nostalgia
The names that the strike freedom and infinite justice do sound superior, I still love the used names because it made me think an individual must strike their ideal freedom without causing problems, and a society must give an infinite and indifferent justice to all. In accordance to Kira's and Athrun's wishes, Kira wants to free everyone from the war, and Athrun wants to justify ones wishes.
i wonder what's the name of the new machines for the movie, my bet is, perfect freedom and ideal justice.either that or infinite freedom and strike justice...
@@marcosdhelenothe code for new justice is night justice, and for freedom is super strike freedom, that's the raw plan, maybe they would change it later on before the movie begin
I must say it's really cool seeing the technical details of the SEED units. I feel like Seed and its sequel displayed alot but didn't go too much into detail on the technology on the suits themselves. It's interesting to see this kind of matter explained
i always felt like the opposite, it showed us the progression of the tech, and the behind the scenes. compare it to 00 which we only see it refueling once during the early parts of the first series, and then we hear how the twin drives have exponential more power, but the machine doesnt really act like its that much more powerfull than its sister units.
when it comes to the freedom and justice, not only do you look at it and notice at first glance how much more powerfull it is compared to the strike, the tech feels far more important to the story, with the batteries always being an issue earlier on, and the canceller being shown how much more power it brings to the table.
also, the best part is, we see the natural progression, you can see where the freedom weaponry and the justice fatum came from, long before those units became a thing. and we always hear about how impactful the inability to use nuclear power is for the suits.
Can you do a development history of the Ultimate/Devil Gundam???
Including the Dark Army
The 4 Evil Kings
- Master Gundam
- Soaring Raven Gundam
- Grand Gundam
- Walter Gundam
and the Gundam heads
It surprised me how much Lacus actually matured over the series. It was obvious from the beginning that she was highly intelligent, but she was also extremely naive. It took awhile for her to gain enough experience to become worldly and put her intelligence to work where it belonged and could do the most good for the world and everyone in it.
When she took everything of value and escaped and allied herself with ORB, which she knew was on the correct path, She managed to turn everything around with the help of Athrun and Kira and everyone else that was once enemies and changed the world view to willingly follow her.
that's the best part, SHE DIDNT. she always played herself as the oblivious little princess. but go back and watch her first showing, she was "bumbling around" a military ship as a PoW. and she made everyone think she was harmless.
she could literaly sabotage the entire ship if she wanted and noone would be able to do anything, or even know.
@@marcosdhelenonot to mention she could predict zaft movement, in destiny she herself said that after the alliance lost the fight, zaft next target would be orb, she said that to the crew in archangel so they rush in to go to orb even sacrificing freedom on the process
not sure it is a blessing that a certain pink-haired lady manages to steal all the powerful super weapons, the outcome of the war would have turned ugly if they were fall into the 'wrong' hands.
Yeh, if Lacus didn't steal freedom and Eternal, Patrick Zala win the war and Clyne faction is gone, and i think earth Federation is gone
Honestly, I think it's possible that Zaft would never have used Genesis had they not lost these machines. Meteor equpped Freedom and Justice would have had no problems shooting down the nuclear missiles from the alliance and then ripping the the Alliance fleet to shreds.
@@heavyarms55 Rau would find a way to mess things up and help the Alliance. Afterall if it wasn't for him the Alliance wouldn't have any reason to fire nuclear missiles in the first place and they would have no hope of doing anything against ZAFT's new MS.
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut without Kira and Athrun pilotting the druggies trio could've actually won against the Freedom and the Justice.
@@uandresbrito5685 both barely catch up with the trio even with SEED mode. Imagine if EA send 9 of them against Kira and Athrun.
@@Joshua_N-A I mean, EA only had those 3, but yeah, a whole squad of those guys would need SF and IJ to defeat, lol
THX for bringing up what I intended to say: Kira Yamato and Athrun Zala are dangerous when they combine forces.
Yay more seed. And yeah Clyne faction are master gundam thieves, they don't need to blow up a entire base to steal a suit XD
Lacus' 11
"they don't need to blow up a entire base to steal a suit XD"
*I look back on past series and events*
I literally don't even know how to process that right now..........
cant get enough of these development history videos
I would like monoeyed Freedom and Justice as per ZAFT aesthetic
YES.
You are the only one so far to agree with me on this. Also the 5 Zaft Gundams from Destiny
@@soramikami4383 I would think it appropriate to have them initially monoeyed just like how the Gundam Mk II was originally black. They would be changed when they switch factions as an "upgrade".
i still defend that they should start with monoeyes, and the strike would lose its head, possibly during the rescue pod fight, and then be given a modified strike, or astray head. that would been perfect.
and the sadest part is, zaft has some of the coolest monoeyes.
@@marcosdheleno good idea, and then maybe Justice gets a new head to match
@@nedinnis6752 yep
Really making Lacus seem like a kleptomaniac stealing all these suits and ships XD.
Stolen Gundam syndrome...
This is when you realize the Impulse's design is genious:
you can't steal the gundam if it's stored disassembled !
That's why it's the only gundam to not get stolen at the beginning ... it's genius XD
@@maeshg1969 don't forget saviour
@@yogaindrakurniawan7033 you don't get the saviour at the beginning, for all we know it could have been assembled after the first 3 were stolen ...
The guy who made Freedom and Justice be like:
(Listens Colors by FLOW) well, I'm loyal to the Clynes so I'm helping her.
Lacus: uh Albert, your Geass is showing.
The name, "Super Freedom Gundam" for an upgraded Freedom Gundam makes sense from a real world standpoint, and mirrors real-world aircraft nomenclature. For example, the F/A-18E Super Hornet is an upgraded version of the F/A-18 Hornet. By the same token, the name "Strike Freedom Gundam" also mirrors real-world nomenclature, one example being the F-15E Strike Eagle, an updated variant of the F-15 Eagle.
As for the name "Knight Justice Gundam," I guess that was later reused for Build Divers Re:Rise.
The Strike Freedom was originally called the "Super Freedom" but the name was later changed, and some fans speculated it was due to the Super Free incidence in 2003.
Anavel Gato: *Sees Lacus stealing four Gundams and a battleship* Is she my daughter?!
The only gundam series that has a VERY serious theif problems
It's like a running gag at one point. I'm pretty sure that none of the gundam suits in all of Seed and Destiny stayed with the respective people who created them. Do they got wheel locks for gundams or something, cause sure seems easy to steal them.
@@andrewowens4421 Not true. One unit the ORB 01 Akatsuki remained within Orb forces for its entire appearance on the show. Cagalli loaned it to Mu after she launched it because he was a better pilot and she was needed on Earth while the suit was needed in space. And Mu was stationed aboard the Archangel which was a commissioned Orb fleet ship now and was the flagship of their fleet when they went to assault Requiem and Messiah.
@@andrewowens4421 The Destiny, Legend and Providence are the only gundam with the Impulse to not switch hands in Zaft, and knowing how much of a cleptomane Lacus is that's an impressive feat (but tu impulse is so weak in comparison she probably saw it and went meh)
Thank you very much for making a video on 2 of my favorite Gundams in the franchise. Excellent job!
hope the Providence's development history is tackled one day, since it somewhat is like the 3rd of this trio back in SEED... well at least that's the impression the Master Grades gave off when I got them before watching SEED
It's the very first time I saw the CGUE Deep Arms in Gundam Seed, it was actually besides the experimental GUAZE.
I saw the third "...unfortunately for ZAFT" coming from miles away and I still lol'd.
ZAFT really can't keep its stuff secure. I mean, do they have gundam sized tire locks they can use? Anything probably would have helped.
@@andrewowens4421 at least some Pentagon Level encryption to prevent non-Zaft from easily using it.
The Freedom Gundam just feels like that one kid who just kept saying "I want all the powers"
So in short, basically the Mary Sue Gundam.
More like the "MOAR DAKKA" GUNDAM.
Seriously, with a level of firepower that would make an Ork salivate of course it would be on the MOAR DAKKA list.
@@matteste
Honestly, it's more the extreme plot armor Kira himself has that makes the (Strike) Freedom appear so OP, similar to Heero and the Wing Gundam Zero, coupled with the more super robot style action their series' tend to engage in as opposed to "real robot". When looking at the mobile suit's actual power and such, they're pretty equivalent to late Universal Century Gundams like the F91 and Victory 2.
A real Mary Sue Gundam would be more the Unicorn Gundam or Turn A Gundam, lol.
@@HalfDemonInuyasha Mary Sue is more than plot armor. It is also that the character is blatantly favored by the narrative, plot armor is just one part of it. Being portrayed as some superior moral pillar is another common sign, a character shown to be without flaws and always shown as morally right, regardless whether their virtue actually makes sense. Basically, the Mary Sue is virtuous cause the story says so, not cause they actually show it or earn it.
And any character that question said virtue are shown to either be wrong or evil. Mary sue's are also magnets for other characters to get jealous at as they are so good at everything, that others just want what the Mary Sue has.
Another common trait tends to be that they are overly special, that they have things that no one else in the story has or can compete against. Even their clothing, or in this case the Machine, are often made to stand out and be overly designed again to make them special.
There is a lot that goes into a Mary Sue, and it just so happen that Kira alongside Lacus and their machines tick all the boxes.
@@mattesteMC in action movies is Mary Sue, like almost without exception.
>Why would you use Super DRAGOONS on Earth
>Remembers Re:Rise Battlelogue
Use them as beam daggers!
As much as that is a very cool use for them, it's totally unnecessary and unpractical. The SF has two beam sabers, why grab a DRAGOON?
Why wouldn’t you? Lol! I’d totally use them!
@@uandresbrito5685 If your enemy is a Post Disaster timeline Gundam, beam sabers will only deal absolute zero damage.
@@kevsthebadboy1703 What's your point?
@@uandresbrito5685 cause it is fighting barbatos rex with it is nanomalite armors, which is immune to beam type attack.
And the dragoon is the only thing strike freedom has to use as physical weapon.
ah, the Lacus's boyfriends custom made gundams... Free for Kira and Just for Athrun, striked and infinite in their designs
And gotten at a Five-finger Discount no less.
Custom made AND cheap.
METEOR - soundtrack kicks in, and you can expect some epic scenes.
Lacus > steals a mobile suit with the animator's decision amount of beams.
Kira: She's the perfect woman
Hi Kakarot, I was building my Nu gundam when it got me thinking, the Nu gundam and Sazabi are designed and built specifically for Amuro and Char (at least I think), unlike most other "custom" machine where a MS is modified for someone. Is there any other machines that are built specifically for someone's use?
the gundams from 00 ,the zeta gundam and the 72 gundam frames(at the beginning of the calamity war ) and those are only the gundams that I can remember
Gundam Alex, all G gundam gundams, char RX-78, 00 movie gundams, gundam age 2
Haman Qubeley, the 0
How did the justice’s backpack flip forward over its shoulders with that giant V-fin in the way lol
8:30 "You know, your stuff would be a lot cooler if it wasn't so easy to steal" retired General Jack O'niell, moments before he was also stolen from Zaft
Jack O'Neill? ...you talking about Star Gate SG-1?
@@yukin1990 yup
@@yukin1990the guy nicked everything he could get away. Especially Sam... LOL
@@AKUJIVALDO 😅😂🤣 SG-1 Episode Windows of Opportunity
I’d highly love it if you cover the development history of all the mobile suits by Celetial Being, the machines from the AD era always intrigued me. I know it’s a lot to cover but I love how you explain the tech specs and history in these videos.
I think one edge the S Freedom and I Justice had over the Destiny was that they had more armament options that didn't require the hands/manipulators to operate. So far as I recall, all the Destiny's weapons, including it's back mounted folding beam canon required the aid of the hands to aim and handle. Simply put, a de-limbed/un-handed Destiny may still be speedy, but it is severely reduced in effectiveness, even with just one arm missing.
exactly! after a close combat with IJ (beam sword everywhere on body), Destiny quickly lost the ability to fight because Athrun has cut arms of it.
I think when someone design destiny (in Bandai headquarters or zaft design team), they took the best part of impulse upgrade power system, but forgetting impulse armaments are interchangeable system. And they remember and re design it in destiny impulse
Thanks for the video man! need to refreshes my memories before watching the new GSF movie came out
It’s like the two Gundams were specifically made for 2.5D Bullet Hell Shoot em up arcade that guzzles quarters down faster than the average lifespan of a GINN facing both of them at once. It’s all there. Freedom’s a wide-shot type with firepower covering the screen. Justice is the straight-shot type with more focused damage on single targets. Both have a melee weapon that’ll erase bullets, a unique backpack gimmick that can act as their Bomb attack, and both have access to a major power-up that is the METEOR units. Most important of all, both of them actually do have the firepower and the juice to sustain them long enough to get away with wiping out the entirety of a military force all by themselves provide their pilots are that good at not getting hit.
you know what's hilarious? real story, the reason i started watching SEED was because i saw the moebius zero in the first episode and it looked straight up like a fighter from something like r-type or raiden. its design was something you know you would see in a shmup. and it instantly hooked me up.
my favorite design in the franchise, up until i saw the freedom.
Now I can't wait for my HGCE Strike freedom to arrive! Great video as always!
I’m gonna say it. I like the regular Freedom more then it’s successor. But both Justice Gundam I like.
Same here , SF is literally just Freedom but worse
@@suncanny1418 For me,it's not worse,just unappealing with the beam cannon in its stomach. Also,what get's my blood boiling is that the designers never thought to put DRAGOONS on the Freedom first! I would've loved it way more!
Holy crap someone else that thinks this! Personally I like the touch of gold and the dragoons, but I admit that it makes the already pretty over powered Freedom that much more invincible. That and it feels like whoever designed it just said screw it, arm it with everything. It feels too busy for me. The OG Freedom was overpowered but it's much simpler of a design, something I like about it.
@@vhalnir861 To me,it's more for aesthetic,but either way,it's nice to see someone not praising the Strike Freedom for once. And I hate the fact that it doesn't have the the shoulder cannons. That's what I like most about the Freedom! And the Freedom just seems screwed over by not having things like DRAGOONs and the Voiture Lumiere!
I'm the opposite, i dislike the Freedom, but really like the SF. The plasma cannon on the wings and the cannon on the side skirt (it's too long) always make me uncomfortable. As for Justice, i don't like the way the wings on the backpack folded, i'm glad they changed it in IJ
goddamn.. the fight versus Rau is very nice, freedom got wrecked bad.
i love it, true warrior
My favorite Gundam series. Don't care if some people hated it. Can't wait to see the new movie.
This video should be titled "Unfortunately for Zaft" due to the sheer amount of important thing they seem to misplace
Although If I remember correctly the Strike freedom and infinite justice Are built directly for Kira and Asran By Lacus and her rogue arm factory hidden in an asteroids ( the same one where they hid the eternal, they mention the factory being hidden there when they launch in destiny )
The only fact I know about Strike Freedom(I don't know if it's confirmed or what) is that it is the only machine in the series that did not sustain any damage.
It didn't. It got hit by the Legend at one point, but blocked with beam shields and went off-balance in the atmosphere and was about to be shot in the back by the Destiny(probably would've dodged anyways but whatever). That was the closest it got to "being hit". Also didn't lose a single DRAGOON.
@@uandresbrito5685 Yeah kira does a better job at taking care of his stuff than Athrun that's for sure x)
@@maeshg1969 Yeah, Athrun disposes of his Fatums like they are beams, lol
Strike Freedom gets banged up a bit in the final battle, nothing serious but it does get scratched. It's Infinite Justice that comes out unscathed.
@@VegetaLF7 Except for that Fatum athrun misplaced XD
This is such a good listen on the topic of my favorite Gundam. Many thanks!
As I remember when reading the Gundam Seed manga, Freedom is a mobile suit that was built for long-term combat purposes, a mobile suit that can fight for a long time period on the battlefield without worries about supplies, because of that, various types of weapons were implanted in Freedom and nuclear fusion as a source of its energy. so that in battle freedom can always be ready to fight without thinking about the supply of fuel and ammunition.
that's why it makes sense for it to only carry beam weaponry. its meant to be a suit that doesnt refuel, its kinda hard to do that with missiles and other physical artilhery. even then they had a rail gun which accelerates tinny pieces of metal at high speed, so it can carry ALOT of ammo.
finally, its a dedicated mid to long range suit, only carrying minimal close combat tools, as the justice is the opposite, being designed to defend the freedom from any wannabe striker.
its the best paired sister units in the franchise. and we see it not just in their designs but also in their synergy.
compare it to other pairs like the heavyarms and sandrock or the wing and deathscythe. units that would work amazingly well together, but barely do so. or the heavyarms from wish and the "we have wing at home" from X. they do pair well, but still feel like its missing something because one is a hit and run and the other is a long ranger... both missing a third close range striker to either pull agro or to defend a position for them to do their jobs...
These videos are really nice for SEED! There's so many friggen variants it's hard to keep them all straight. They go from Aegis to Justice to Infinite Justice to Immortal Justice to Infinite Justice type II and my brain is just like NANI!?
The lesson here for ZAFT is not to produce fully functional high end experimental units, because 70% of them will be stolen.
Same goes for Earth Federation.
Also change your passwords, so the former leader who you deposed daughter can't just access everything.
For some reason Zaft's places their high end experimental units on someone's backyard ready to be taken
You'd think somebody would have learned that by now... Ah, well!
i kinda love how the thefts happen. its kinda hilarious how each of them is so completely diferent from one another but they still happen so often you would think there's something wrong with them for letting it happen.
the first was done by rau who traded the info with the federation in the first place.
the second happened because of lacus position behind the scenes.
the third was less of a theft and more of a defection.
the fourth was due to spies that infiltrated the place and the defection of another high ranking officer.
the fifth was planned from their own side as an excuse to start the next war.
the sixth was stolen data and manpower, so it was more like another defection.
14:38 I found out about the the ♾ justice original name being knight justice but changed because it’s was used already but the strike freedom being super freedom is new to me
Zaft should install Nord VPN to prevent their units being stolen 👌😂
Freedom and Justice. Two of my favorite Mobile Suits in Gundam Seed.
I think your going to be updating this in a few months.😊
The Strike Freedom and 00 Justice was the best names period. *Edited for this* All though you could have named the new justice, the Ageis Justice.
makes me wonder what they will call the new units in the movie.
infinite freedom and strike justice?
eternal freedom and meteor justice?
super freedom and aegis justice?
neverending freedom and perfect justice?
freedom bringer and justice enforcer?
Another fun fact: They're the only Mobile suits that Kira and Athrun piloted that didn't get absolutely totaled or destroyed by the end the end of the series.
If I recall right Infinite Justice never received any damage while Strike Freedom may have had a few scrapes
@@sslocke the IJ lost its fatum when it pierced the minerva.
@@marcosdheleno The Fatum was destroyed when it hit the Requiem
@@neovoltron25 if you are talking the fatum from the infinite justice, then you are confusing it, it got destroyed when it was rammed into the minerva's engine.
You know it's gonna be a good day when you wake up and see kakarot has uploaded a development history vid that's 15 minutes long
I’d like to see something on the saviour gundam!! One of my favorite gundams in the series, but so heavily under utilized
Absolutely love this channel
7:04 imagine how OP the meteor unit would be if those thrusters were GN drives
Imagine the Freedom and Justice using Trans-Am.
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Trans-Am + Seed mode = Too fast for you to aim while every hit they do is accurate as fuck
00 sky heheboi
having watched 00 gundam before seed i was thinking they looked like GN drives
Looking forward for an updated version Seed Freedom movie to cover the Rising Freedom, Inmortal Justice, as well as the (Mighty) Strike Freedom Type II and Infinite Justice Type II. *W*