Tallgeese III was the last man standing at the end of it all. I think a follow-up to wing with an old and grizzled zechs, haunted by the ghost of Treize and with the gundam pilots nowhere to be found, still piloting the III as the sole defender of peace would be magnificent. Of course he'd have to be Tallgeese III Fleugel :D
@@tylerespinoza1993 I think the easiest method would just be to do one on the colonies chosen Mobile Fighter line since that has the best history With the obvious choice being Domon’s since we have plenty to go from Master Asia’s original fighter from his first participation from the manga Uluube’s Fighter from the 12th fight And then Domon’s line
Both the Tallgeese and Tallgeese III make it into my Top Ten mobile suit list. I love them both being these sort of in-betweens of regular mobile suits and Gundams
I've got a friend that counts it among his favorites. If Flugel wasn't a P-Bandai and a little too expensive, I'd have gotten him one for his birthday. Shame it didn't get some real love in Build.
Definitely love those units, though I will have to admit that I was never really a fan of its legs. Also... despite the fact I really like the Talgeese line, I absolutely HATE Leos.
I think the Tallgeese III probably outperformed Wing Zero as well, having perfectly blended the Epyon and the Wing Zero into an amazingly dangerous and versatile mobile suit. Despite it's size it was still fast as hell with twin verniers.
@@SkyReaperOnehuh. Leo’s actually one of my favorite designs. If we accept the premise of any mobile suit being “practical,” it looks like a simple, effective, mass-produced trooper suit. It looks like something that might actually be built by real people for its intended purpose, rather than looking “cool” for the sake of it, and to me it makes Wing feel a bit less… fanciful than some other Gundam media.
A lot of the Gundam AU have trouble making memorable new designs that are meaningfully distinct from the Universal Century's established Federation/Zeon aesthetics, particularly for the main rival Mobile Suit. However, with the Tallgeese they accomplished this seemingly effortlessly. It's a relatively simple design with minimal colours or shapes, but it's never boring to look at and its movement animations are just so crisp and fun to watch. It also hearkens to the core themes of OZ in Gundam Wing, with its Greco-Roman features exemplifying the militant neoclassicism the organization swaths itself in while the relatively minimal weaponry also presents it more as a weapon for dueling than utilitarian warfare. I can see why it's many fans' favourite, even those who are more cold on Gundam Wing.
Visually, IMO the Tallgeese has most in common with the Victory 2 Gundam - another Hajime Katoki design. Take out the backpacks and weapons of both mobile suits, and there's more similarity than is immediately apparent, especially with the lower body.
Less Neoclassical and more neonapoleonic for most of the organization despite the Zodiac name, only Treize was the one sitting around bathing in greek ruins,
As far as the number of hits go for MS on our GW site, Tallgeese is so popular that I include it in the Characters of the Day because it amuses me. The Shooting Stars Collection: A Gundam Wing Image Archive
The aquarius truly deserves more recognition, as the sister unit of the epyon, this one doesnt reflect treize's love for chivalry, but his hatred towards mobile dolls. It fits really well thematically within wing's narrative so it is a real shame it didn't make it into the anime, perfect for lady une to pilot
It’s definitely a very worthwhile unit to have in SD Gundam Crossrays Especially in any series that uses Mobile Dolls or similar units with its passive effect heavily weakening them Also they give Trieze and Une special lines when piloting it
@Arashi Tendou Too bad it makes the map look really ugly and it falls off hard in the lategame due to lack of good moves compared to the main suit final forms/dlc units
@@weebcraft6829 Yeah it's a godsend for the later parts of Wing because fuck Mobile Dolls but at least for me by the time I got the Aquarius I had the ELS Quanta which eviscerates everything regardless.
My MG Flugel is definitely a pride in my collection of about a hundred gunpla, especially since p-bandai is so difficult to get here. I used to hate the design back in the 90's, but it's become my favourite MS. The story of it being a master piece testbed that outperformed the five gundams, just lacking a proper OS to smoothly handle it, is an interesting one. It makes perfect sense that it got mothballed, since it was too expensive to maintain or reproduce and seeing old powerful weapons get taken out of storage is always a cool 'relic' moment.
@@SumDude129 seems most people glaze over that clearly stated fact in this video and the series. Everything OZ mech related is reversed engineered from the tallgeese cause the fucker was to pricey to mass produce
Technically, the grand father. ZERO Gundam is the father of the 5 Gundams. ZERO was designed based from Tallgese. The 5 gundams (including the upgraded Deathsycthe, and Altron, Mercurius, and Vayeate) are based from ZERO Gundam.
The Tallgeese line of suits are some of my favorites from all of Gundam. I'd have to say my favorite is the Tallgeese II due to the addition of the blue (because that's my favorite color.) But it also matches with treize's colors as well. I do also like the Fulgel's design and it's fun to see it in action when I play the SD Gundam games on Switch. This was another fantastic video covering the suit's history and development. Can't wait for the next one, keep up the amazing work covering this fantastic franchise.
Its a hard toss up between the Tallgeese and Tallgeese III. Although have wondered how the Tallgeese would look like it if were built in the UC instead of AC. Kinda like to see if Ramba Ral could get a Tallgeese instead of a Gouf. Ramba Ral: "THIS IS NO LEO, BOY...NO LEO."
you say this, but i actually wonder if the talgeese was developed in the cosmic era instead, i mean, its clearly a machine developed for enhanced humans. and similar to how coordinator ms cant really be piloted by natural pilots without a severe rewritten OS.
My favorite mobile suit from Gundam Wing. Fantastic design, incredible performance, and just so damn cool. The classic trope of "old and obsolete but just _that_ overwhelmingly powerful."
The Tallgeese goes to to show how important the framework of a machine can be. It reminds me of some real world machines like the F-15 Eagle that is its 50’s and its said it will still operate into the 2030’s.
The Tallgeese I is my favorite MS of all time so I'm glad to see a video about it's development line! (Insert American Psycho business card meme here) Love your work! Thanks for making this!
As far as the number of hits go for MS on our GW site, Tallgeese is so popular that I include it in the Characters of the Day because it amuses me. The Shooting Stars Collection: A Gundam Wing Image Archive
My only gripe with the Tallgeese being the "father" of all mobile suits is that one does not build a super powerful prototype suit in one shot. There must have been earlier test models that led up to the final product. I'm curious about those prototype test suits!
I mean its possible if you had high advancements with jet fighters and space craft, which wing does seem to have in a very refined sort. i like to think it would be like the Zudah if the Zudah had actually succeeded and wasn't prone to blowing itself up. Im sure there were test models made to figure out the locomotion and super verniers.
@@marcosdheleno Good point but the fact that they put the Tallgeese "mask" on the Leo-like head leads me to believe that there were several test units with the true OZ-00MS moniker. Oh well, just my curiosity.
If I may suggest as a former member of the US army artillery unit. Yes, the dober gun cartridge based weapon. However it is possible that the ammunition inside of the cartridges is interchangeable. For example for tanks and artillery there are hundreds of different types of shells. Perhaps the same can be said for the dober gun. For tank shells there are hundreds of different types of munitions that can be used for a single tank. I would theorize that the dober can do the same. But the 2 type load out does seem more plausible.
As far as the number of hits go for MS on our GW site, Tallgeese is so popular that I include it in the Characters of the Day because it amuses me. The Shooting Stars Collection: A Gundam Wing Image Archive
Great job on the video! I didn't know where the Flugel variant was placed in the timeline so that was interesting to learn about. Tallgeese in general is definitely my favorite mobile suit of Wing along with Heavy Arms as second place.
The Tallgeese III is probably my favorite. I like the head redesign in that they quit pretending it was a Gundam and gave it a unique look. Also it is one of my favorite suits to play as in Gundam Battle Assault 2 with one if the best unlisted moves.
I love the Tallgeese I. It's power, style, and history are just awesome. Another favorite of mine is Epyon, so the Tallgeese III succeeding it and being given the Epyon system and the heat whip was just so cool to me. I hope you cover the Epyon in the future as well. This was another fantastic video, thank you.
THIS. It took me years to realize that "Glory of Losers" was a more detailed manga retelling of the Gundam Wing plot, and supposedly fills in the infamous gaping holes and under-baked exposition of the TV anime.
Technically speaking, you could say that the 2 timelines were established as far back as 1997, when the EW versions of the Gundams were shown during the events of the TV anime, and that Glory of the Losers fleshes out the events of the EW timeline.
The Tallgeese singlehandedly liberated an entire kingdom by using ITSELF as a ballistic missile and later cured cancer with its barehands. What other MS in Gundam Wing could’ve possibly topped feats like that?
Probaby any of the Gundam's honestly. I mean even the 5 operation M gundams were technically superior to Tallgeese (and I mean in their specs and materials). I admit it probably could outspeed DS, HA, and SR
Tallgeese is the father of all mobile suits and basically brother of Char's Zaku II.When I saw Tallgeese first time, I was so excited.I think Tallgeese's design is perfect, like a knight. Btw the video is great
While I like the OG Tallgeese and Fluegel, I have to go with the Tallgeese 3 mainly because of it's epic scene's from the Endless Waltz Compilation Movie. Would the Development History of Gundam Epyon include the Gundam Aquarius in it since they're sister units or no?
Would have to, even if its one of those weird dubiously canon game only machines, its too neat of a suit to not mention. It's getting a Metal Robot figure too. Frozen teardrop is dubious too and that stuff he always mentions.
I like the Tallgeese III out of all of them. The wings I didn't care for. Anything that makes you a bigger target. I wouldn't want as an ace pilot. I would take the original boosters to add another thruster to both of them in a triangle configuration and reinforce hard point mounts for the added stresses in power output. I would replace the old heat rod and go with a much harder to see monofilament wire to cheese slice through MSs or use it as an anchor wire for slingshotting around objects without giving away my direction of travel by the pivoting direction of the boosters.
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My theory for the Dobbergun is this- it is using physical rounds but it is beam weapon. Bomb pumped laser are a neat solution here. As for why we have two different modes of fire, also simple - it makes sense to close up with emiter as close as possible to a target in the atmosphere to reduce atmosphere effects on the beam, thus the gun fires the shell, which later fires the beam itself.
1:23 In G generation Cross Rays the Tallgeese 1 and 2 can use both, beams and shells, so i think it is true that i has two versions or two configurations.
I've been meaning to watch this I haven't had the chance to watch it fully I'm glad I did and ever since I've watched all sorts of gundam series I've always called these mobile suits gundam killers From tallgesse mercuius and vayate
It’s frightening the first five gundams you see are watered down versions of the Wing Zero. I tried building an HG Wing Zero in the early 2000’s. Then like 20 years later I tried again and finished it. I started building at the start of the pandemic starting with Leo’s and Zaku’s. I’ve built several suits now. Just ordered a bunch of Zaku’s to add to my back log. Love the Zaku’s. I wanna find Leo kits with more than just the shield beam sabers and machine guns. 9:44
As far as the number of hits go for MS on our GW site, Tallgeese is so popular that I include it in the Characters of the Day because it amuses me. The Shooting Stars Collection: A Gundam Wing Image Archive
I always interpreted the dialog on the Tallgeese armor as it being some prototypical or dead-end technology with weirdly low density that dictated it's size. (something with high densiity could just be used in smaller quantities unless heavy armor was a primary design goal or something, and I really doubt the AC timeline has access to Puppeteer macromolecules for fixed-size armor panels) Maybe it got developed into gundanium but that never seemed to have problems with needing to be large for effectiveness. It feels like it ends up tactically equivalent to a Gundam while being kinda unrelated in technology.
4:24 I like this right here because it's such a great justification for a mobile suit. They weren't built just to take down enemies, but to intimidate and create an allusion of superiority because they have a "heroic" visage. And psychological warefare can be just as effective, if not more so, than physical warfare. It also ties into the idea of mobile dolls. Getting a machine to fight takes away the human factor in wars; you soon disregard the suffering wars cause because all you have to do is push a button and let the machines do all the work. More conventional weapons tie into that; they could have easily made these advanced tanks or jets, but decided the human factor of a mobile suit (the humanoid silhouette) made the wars more personal. This is a fight that _people_ are a part of and the mobile suits are a reflection of that.
Oh I have looked forward to this one. Freakin' love the Tallgeese. I think it started my love for awesome but impractical mechs in the right hands. Gotta say though, I was not expecting that to be the history of II and III. I always thought Treize just put the Tallgeese back together with some new parts for the II, and that the remains of II and Epyon were built together to make III. Just this one mobile suit that, like it's pilot, refused to die. Also wait what? The Epyon had a sister unit?
@@passingrando6457 I am familiar, particularly due to having a friend who has been in love with it forever. The big example for me is always the Alt Eisen from SRW.
Not going to lie, Tallgeese is the BEST name for any gundam universe mobile suit. It sounds like nothing that came before it and anything else after. Throw in the fact the Tallgeese 1 has the mono visor that's GM like and you've got one of the best non gundam hero suits to ever exist!.
In my school vr game there's a 4th version of tallgeese that galahorn revolutionary fleet had made but it basically the Ems 010 Zita a rushed unit that been made but that's not all the frame was from the original tallgeese the same unit that got ripped to shreds by a cyberdemon
OG Tallgeese was always my favorite due to the relatively (for Gundam anyway) straightforward design without too much embellishment. Like an armored knight, but with a jetpack and the cannon off the deck of a cruiser.
Is it wrong I think the O is surprisingly ugly looking? Or maybe I'm just truamatized from the time in SRW3 it parked in a lake and was one shotting everything.
@@brettwood1351 not just ugly, its possibly the biggest PoS in the entire first half of the UC. it makes no sense in any way, and i still defend that if he were to pilot something less shit, like a zaku 1, he could probably have lived that last fight. god do i hate the o...
@@marcosdheleno And I thought I was all alone in the world... Also as final boss suit gimmicks go, having some skinny arms hidden in the front skirt armor is kinda... Meh.
My favorite is the non-canon version that is not mentionned in this video, the Tallgeese Valkyrie. It's basically the Tallgeese but the dober canon has been replaced by the Tallgeese III's Mega beam canon, the verners have more engin funnels and it is sporting a sick dark green paint job. It's featured in the anime Gundam Build Fighter
Whew. Almost unsubbed thought the main reason I subbed was no longer produced. Glad to see another development video (do not be discouraged. I will stay now that I know it’s just a rarity and not discontinued) 🎉
I remember jokes that Grahams final suit should have been the Gundam Flag, a suit that combines the best aspects of both Gundam tech, and the Flag's design.
I really need to look into frozen Tear drop. So many but ball things seemed to have happened in it. Three different zero systems and like a zillion weird variant suits.
@@shindoushuichi0287 actually, they werent the same, we are never told the diference, but knowing treize, its probably the reason zechs went insane after piloting the epyon.
@@marcosdheleno both the zero and epyon systems did the same thing. Analyzed battle data and tried to force the pilot to make the most optimal decision to win the battle. That’s the basic premise of the systems. So they were functionally the same. If there was a distinction between the systems that was that big they would have addressed it but they didn’t so it’s reasonable to assume they were nearly identical.
@@shindoushuichi0287 they did the same thing, but they were not the same. the epyon has a custom version of the zero system. it is similar sure, but not the same. and that's my point.
I remember I was the only one at school (and home) who liked this show. People thought they talked too much but if you paid attention there was a bunch of story and build up to the fights. The episode where they tease Epyon and then show him 2 ep later was still the standard to me on how to present a 6th gundam in a 5 gundam based show
I always loved the Tallgeese I. I used to look everywhere for the old No Grades just so I had them. Then they announced the RG Tallgeese and now I just need the PBandai ones
Talking about the Dober Gun the game SD Gundam G Generation Crossrays has both the Ballistic and Beam shots useable when using a Tallgeese so it could be a case that there’s a single dober gun that can fire in both styles (probably with some slight reconfiguration before alternate firing)
My pick? Definitely the original model in the TV anime colors. The light gray vernier pods of the EW version don't give enough visual contrast. The Tallgeese has always been a little problematic in real-life model kit form because of its top-heavy weight balance (the dober gun actually helps offset its weight disitribution) and disproportionately small feet, which is my only gripe against it.
Beam Dober Gun is just part of the neccessary space combat modifactions. Projectiles are close to useless in space unless they can home in on the target. Beams, melee, and missiles are the space meta
Tallgeese always came off as being the real hero of wing, the gallant knight standing against the invading dragon (quite literally in shenlongs case)
as most people would agree. fuck wufei....
Don't know if thats a better description of the mobile suit or its pilots.
Wufei would have mopped the floor with Tallgeese.
Tallgeese III was the last man standing at the end of it all. I think a follow-up to wing with an old and grizzled zechs, haunted by the ghost of Treize and with the gundam pilots nowhere to be found, still piloting the III as the sole defender of peace would be magnificent. Of course he'd have to be Tallgeese III Fleugel :D
@@charleslong104oh boy, you don’t want to know about the Frozen Teardrop manga then
I've always loved how one of Zech's signature moves was to peek into the cockpit of a ship before stabbing it with a beam saber.
Peek a boo of death
Kinda explains the Epyon 'show screaming faces of people you are about to end' thing, doesn't it? ...
@@RiukuCresent
That was hallucinations brought on by Zero System.
Barge remembers.
YES. it's been awhile since a development history video
I wouldn't mind a series on iron blooded orphans mobile suit lines or mobile fighters we know of from g fighters
@@tylerespinoza1993 I think the easiest method would just be to do one on the colonies chosen Mobile Fighter line since that has the best history
With the obvious choice being Domon’s since we have plenty to go from
Master Asia’s original fighter from his first participation from the manga
Uluube’s Fighter from the 12th fight
And then Domon’s line
@Arashi Tendou yeah that is what I meant sorry I wasn't clear each country its own video
Both the Tallgeese and Tallgeese III make it into my Top Ten mobile suit list. I love them both being these sort of in-betweens of regular mobile suits and Gundams
I've got a friend that counts it among his favorites. If Flugel wasn't a P-Bandai and a little too expensive, I'd have gotten him one for his birthday.
Shame it didn't get some real love in Build.
Definitely love those units, though I will have to admit that I was never really a fan of its legs.
Also... despite the fact I really like the Talgeese line, I absolutely HATE Leos.
I think the Tallgeese III probably outperformed Wing Zero as well, having perfectly blended the Epyon and the Wing Zero into an amazingly dangerous and versatile mobile suit. Despite it's size it was still fast as hell with twin verniers.
Zechs could stand toe to toe with a newtype imho, especially with the cyber newtype-like tech in the wing zero and epyon.
@@SkyReaperOnehuh. Leo’s actually one of my favorite designs. If we accept the premise of any mobile suit being “practical,” it looks like a simple, effective, mass-produced trooper suit. It looks like something that might actually be built by real people for its intended purpose, rather than looking “cool” for the sake of it, and to me it makes Wing feel a bit less… fanciful than some other Gundam media.
A lot of the Gundam AU have trouble making memorable new designs that are meaningfully distinct from the Universal Century's established Federation/Zeon aesthetics, particularly for the main rival Mobile Suit. However, with the Tallgeese they accomplished this seemingly effortlessly. It's a relatively simple design with minimal colours or shapes, but it's never boring to look at and its movement animations are just so crisp and fun to watch. It also hearkens to the core themes of OZ in Gundam Wing, with its Greco-Roman features exemplifying the militant neoclassicism the organization swaths itself in while the relatively minimal weaponry also presents it more as a weapon for dueling than utilitarian warfare. I can see why it's many fans' favourite, even those who are more cold on Gundam Wing.
Visually, IMO the Tallgeese has most in common with the Victory 2 Gundam - another Hajime Katoki design. Take out the backpacks and weapons of both mobile suits, and there's more similarity than is immediately apparent, especially with the lower body.
Less Neoclassical and more neonapoleonic for most of the organization despite the Zodiac name, only Treize was the one sitting around bathing in greek ruins,
i think has to do that tallgeese looks like it's designed to be a protagonist robot for another anime,
The Tallgeese has always been one of my favorite Wing mobile suits alongside Epyon & Wing Zero.
As far as the number of hits go for MS on our GW site, Tallgeese is so popular that I include it in the Characters of the Day because it amuses me. The Shooting Stars Collection: A Gundam Wing Image Archive
The aquarius truly deserves more recognition, as the sister unit of the epyon, this one doesnt reflect treize's love for chivalry, but his hatred towards mobile dolls.
It fits really well thematically within wing's narrative so it is a real shame it didn't make it into the anime, perfect for lady une to pilot
It’s definitely a very worthwhile unit to have in SD Gundam Crossrays
Especially in any series that uses Mobile Dolls or similar units with its passive effect heavily weakening them
Also they give Trieze and Une special lines when piloting it
@Arashi Tendou Too bad it makes the map look really ugly and it falls off hard in the lategame due to lack of good moves compared to the main suit final forms/dlc units
@@weebcraft6829 Yeah it's a godsend for the later parts of Wing because fuck Mobile Dolls but at least for me by the time I got the Aquarius I had the ELS Quanta which eviscerates everything regardless.
My MG Flugel is definitely a pride in my collection of about a hundred gunpla, especially since p-bandai is so difficult to get here.
I used to hate the design back in the 90's, but it's become my favourite MS. The story of it being a master piece testbed that outperformed the five gundams, just lacking a proper OS to smoothly handle it, is an interesting one. It makes perfect sense that it got mothballed, since it was too expensive to maintain or reproduce and seeing old powerful weapons get taken out of storage is always a cool 'relic' moment.
Tallgesse is basically the cousin of Char's Zaku II but also the godfather of leo suits.
It is the grandaddy of all suits in GW. It was the first weaponized mobile suit created
@@SumDude129 seems most people glaze over that clearly stated fact in this video and the series. Everything OZ mech related is reversed engineered from the tallgeese cause the fucker was to pricey to mass produce
Technically, the grand father. ZERO Gundam is the father of the 5 Gundams.
ZERO was designed based from Tallgese.
The 5 gundams (including the upgraded Deathsycthe, and Altron, Mercurius, and Vayeate) are based from ZERO Gundam.
The Tallgeese line of suits are some of my favorites from all of Gundam. I'd have to say my favorite is the Tallgeese II due to the addition of the blue (because that's my favorite color.) But it also matches with treize's colors as well. I do also like the Fulgel's design and it's fun to see it in action when I play the SD Gundam games on Switch.
This was another fantastic video covering the suit's history and development. Can't wait for the next one, keep up the amazing work covering this fantastic franchise.
Its a hard toss up between the Tallgeese and Tallgeese III. Although have wondered how the Tallgeese would look like it if were built in the UC instead of AC. Kinda like to see if Ramba Ral could get a Tallgeese instead of a Gouf. Ramba Ral: "THIS IS NO LEO, BOY...NO LEO."
you say this, but i actually wonder if the talgeese was developed in the cosmic era instead, i mean, its clearly a machine developed for enhanced humans. and similar to how coordinator ms cant really be piloted by natural pilots without a severe rewritten OS.
Someone in one of the gunpla groups in on fb made a custom UC inspired Tallgeese model.
In the case of the Tallgeese III, I'd say it would look about halfway between the Hi-Nu Gundam and GM II.
It's been a long time but I'm glad to see another development history video.
Same not gonna lie I was getting tired of just seeing nothing but Gundam news.
My favorite mobile suit from Gundam Wing. Fantastic design, incredible performance, and just so damn cool. The classic trope of "old and obsolete but just _that_ overwhelmingly powerful."
Best suit in Wing.
“This is Preventer Wind. I’m destroying MO-3.”
*KABLAM* 💥💥💥
Goated scene lol
Easily my favorite Non-Gundam mobile suit from Wing. Thank you!
You forgot to include Howard as one of the Tallgeese developers. He confirms as much himself, although I'm not sure exactly what his role was.
Also disappointed we didn't mention the mercuirious or the veaeight
The Tallgeese goes to to show how important the framework of a machine can be. It reminds me of some real world machines like the F-15 Eagle that is its 50’s and its said it will still operate into the 2030’s.
Same concepts as F15, big frame, bigger engines!
The Tallgeese I is my favorite MS of all time so I'm glad to see a video about it's development line! (Insert American Psycho business card meme here)
Love your work! Thanks for making this!
my favorite suit. thank you for this viedeo! also holy shit. i knew the tallgeese was fast but thats some insane topspeed.
Tallgeese is my favorite suit from Wing. Never get tired of this thing.
Still to this day the Tallgeese is my favorite mech design of all time. So simple yet elegant while also only shinning if the pilot is good.
As far as the number of hits go for MS on our GW site, Tallgeese is so popular that I include it in the Characters of the Day because it amuses me. The Shooting Stars Collection: A Gundam Wing Image Archive
My only gripe with the Tallgeese being the "father" of all mobile suits is that one does not build a super powerful prototype suit in one shot. There must have been earlier test models that led up to the final product. I'm curious about those prototype test suits!
I like that this one is the exception, and they got it right the first try!
I mean its possible if you had high advancements with jet fighters and space craft, which wing does seem to have in a very refined sort. i like to think it would be like the Zudah if the Zudah had actually succeeded and wasn't prone to blowing itself up. Im sure there were test models made to figure out the locomotion and super verniers.
it is the father of MS as in the sense that it was the first fully developed and built MS, which was then downgraded, for mass production.
@@marcosdheleno Good point but the fact that they put the Tallgeese "mask" on the Leo-like head leads me to believe that there were several test units with the true OZ-00MS moniker. Oh well, just my curiosity.
@ORLY911 Ah, the Zudah. The Ford Pinto of mobile suits.
This is my favorite non Gundam MS. I love the Tallgeese 3 design it’s so good. Great vid
If I may suggest as a former member of the US army artillery unit. Yes, the dober gun cartridge based weapon. However it is possible that the ammunition inside of the cartridges is interchangeable. For example for tanks and artillery there are hundreds of different types of shells. Perhaps the same can be said for the dober gun. For tank shells there are hundreds of different types of munitions that can be used for a single tank. I would theorize that the dober can do the same. But the 2 type load out does seem more plausible.
Thanks for providing the Development History of my favorite rival unit/s... 😀
Tallgeese was my first favorite MS when I was introduced to Gundam Wing back in 2000s, great style, love the II and the III as well!
As far as the number of hits go for MS on our GW site, Tallgeese is so popular that I include it in the Characters of the Day because it amuses me. The Shooting Stars Collection: A Gundam Wing Image Archive
Great job on the video! I didn't know where the Flugel variant was placed in the timeline so that was interesting to learn about. Tallgeese in general is definitely my favorite mobile suit of Wing along with Heavy Arms as second place.
Tallgeese is such an awesome mobile suit with III being my favorite, BTW nice little stab at frozen teardrop there lol.
The Tallgeese III is probably my favorite. I like the head redesign in that they quit pretending it was a Gundam and gave it a unique look. Also it is one of my favorite suits to play as in Gundam Battle Assault 2 with one if the best unlisted moves.
I love the Tallgeese I. It's power, style, and history are just awesome. Another favorite of mine is Epyon, so the Tallgeese III succeeding it and being given the Epyon system and the heat whip was just so cool to me. I hope you cover the Epyon in the future as well. This was another fantastic video, thank you.
Although this could be complicated, it might be best to inform the unaware viewers that Gundam Wing had a reboot, and how the two timeline works now.
THIS. It took me years to realize that "Glory of Losers" was a more detailed manga retelling of the Gundam Wing plot, and supposedly fills in the infamous gaping holes and under-baked exposition of the TV anime.
Technically speaking, you could say that the 2 timelines were established as far back as 1997, when the EW versions of the Gundams were shown during the events of the TV anime, and that Glory of the Losers fleshes out the events of the EW timeline.
Tallgesse III will always be my all time favorite mobile suit!
I really hope we get all three Tallgeese in HG 1/144 form. I know we have the RG’s but I haven’t built them.
The Tallgeese singlehandedly liberated an entire kingdom by using ITSELF as a ballistic missile and later cured cancer with its barehands. What other MS in Gundam Wing could’ve possibly topped feats like that?
I mean wing zero would just shoot cancer to death and the island too
Probaby any of the Gundam's honestly. I mean even the 5 operation M gundams were technically superior to Tallgeese (and I mean in their specs and materials). I admit it probably could outspeed DS, HA, and SR
@@digitaladventurer2142speed wise,
Tallgeese was A monster in speed.
Cured cancer?
Tallgeese is the father of all mobile suits and basically brother of Char's Zaku II.When I saw Tallgeese first time, I was so excited.I think Tallgeese's design is perfect, like a knight. Btw the video is great
While I like the OG Tallgeese and Fluegel, I have to go with the Tallgeese 3 mainly because of it's epic scene's from the Endless Waltz Compilation Movie. Would the Development History of Gundam Epyon include the Gundam Aquarius in it since they're sister units or no?
Would have to, even if its one of those weird dubiously canon game only machines, its too neat of a suit to not mention. It's getting a Metal Robot figure too. Frozen teardrop is dubious too and that stuff he always mentions.
900th like, Tallgesse is one of my favorites even if Wing wasn't my favorite series! So glad you did a video on it!
Pog~ A new development history video. I been waiting for this
I`m glad that the tallgeese got a develpoment video
I like the Tallgeese III out of all of them. The wings I didn't care for. Anything that makes you a bigger target. I wouldn't want as an ace pilot. I would take the original boosters to add another thruster to both of them in a triangle configuration and reinforce hard point mounts for the added stresses in power output. I would replace the old heat rod and go with a much harder to see monofilament wire to cheese slice through MSs or use it as an anchor wire for slingshotting around objects without giving away my direction of travel by the pivoting direction of the boosters.
It wasn't made out of gundanium, it was a larger version of the leo and thus the armor was thicker titanium.
*_Thiccanium_*
holy sheeeeet. i was totally not subscribed.. literally been watching you for 2 years under the impression i was subbed.. so subbed! notification bell! and a like! Thankyou for your hard work and content, much love!
A welcomed suprise.. Thanks man.. Really miss these video
My theory for the Dobbergun is this- it is using physical rounds but it is beam weapon. Bomb pumped laser are a neat solution here. As for why we have two different modes of fire, also simple - it makes sense to close up with emiter as close as possible to a target in the atmosphere to reduce atmosphere effects on the beam, thus the gun fires the shell, which later fires the beam itself.
Wasn’t Mike Howard aboard the peacemillion one of the tallgeese developers too?
Omg finally next development video. I missed this series. Please do the tr-6 development video next
He already did, checkout the advance of zeta
@@dsleong8328 not exactly. He did the development of tr-1 not tr-6
Oh damn how come this didnt pop up on my feed. Im 12 days late. I love watching Kakarot's development history videos
DEVELOPMENT HISTORY LETS GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Hot damn!! The lore of the Tallgeese is so awesome, thanks for the informative video.
Tallgeese! I wish they make a new gundam game with all gundams from all universe are playable
I've been so busy with school I didn't know u still made videos
I love these videos, please never stop!
1:23 In G generation Cross Rays the Tallgeese 1 and 2 can use both, beams and shells, so i think it is true that i has two versions or two configurations.
I've been meaning to watch this I haven't had the chance to watch it fully I'm glad I did and ever since I've watched all sorts of gundam series I've always called these mobile suits gundam killers
From tallgesse mercuius and vayate
10:23 the star behind the crest makes the crest shining
My favorite GTuber covering my favorite mobile suit. I love it!
It’s frightening the first five gundams you see are watered down versions of the Wing Zero. I tried building an HG Wing Zero in the early 2000’s. Then like 20 years later I tried again and finished it. I started building at the start of the pandemic starting with Leo’s and Zaku’s. I’ve built several suits now. Just ordered a bunch of Zaku’s to add to my back log. Love the Zaku’s. I wanna find Leo kits with more than just the shield beam sabers and machine guns. 9:44
woah, crazy. You uploaded this just as I started building my P bandai MG Tallgeese EW
13:05 was that an animation error or something? it looks like leo had an extra protection on its visor
A wimg favorite of mine, still waiting on your MA-05 Bigro development history video.
For me it’s the Tallgeese 3. It just looks so majestic.
You forgot about Howard, who designed and worked on the tallgeese
As far as the number of hits go for MS on our GW site, Tallgeese is so popular that I include it in the Characters of the Day because it amuses me. The Shooting Stars Collection: A Gundam Wing Image Archive
I always interpreted the dialog on the Tallgeese armor as it being some prototypical or dead-end technology with weirdly low density that dictated it's size. (something with high densiity could just be used in smaller quantities unless heavy armor was a primary design goal or something, and I really doubt the AC timeline has access to Puppeteer macromolecules for fixed-size armor panels) Maybe it got developed into gundanium but that never seemed to have problems with needing to be large for effectiveness. It feels like it ends up tactically equivalent to a Gundam while being kinda unrelated in technology.
4:24 I like this right here because it's such a great justification for a mobile suit. They weren't built just to take down enemies, but to intimidate and create an allusion of superiority because they have a "heroic" visage. And psychological warefare can be just as effective, if not more so, than physical warfare. It also ties into the idea of mobile dolls. Getting a machine to fight takes away the human factor in wars; you soon disregard the suffering wars cause because all you have to do is push a button and let the machines do all the work. More conventional weapons tie into that; they could have easily made these advanced tanks or jets, but decided the human factor of a mobile suit (the humanoid silhouette) made the wars more personal. This is a fight that _people_ are a part of and the mobile suits are a reflection of that.
Heck yeah a development history video we eating good today
And Mobile Suits were never seen again...
THEY WERE NEVER SEEN AGAIN!
Oh I have looked forward to this one. Freakin' love the Tallgeese. I think it started my love for awesome but impractical mechs in the right hands.
Gotta say though, I was not expecting that to be the history of II and III. I always thought Treize just put the Tallgeese back together with some new parts for the II, and that the remains of II and Epyon were built together to make III. Just this one mobile suit that, like it's pilot, refused to die.
Also wait what? The Epyon had a sister unit?
Awesome but impractical mechs are the bomb. Are you familiar with the Armored Core franchise? It has another great example in the 03-AALIYAH.
@@passingrando6457 I am familiar, particularly due to having a friend who has been in love with it forever.
The big example for me is always the Alt Eisen from SRW.
Not going to lie, Tallgeese is the BEST name for any gundam universe mobile suit. It sounds like nothing that came before it and anything else after. Throw in the fact the Tallgeese 1 has the mono visor that's GM like and you've got one of the best non gundam hero suits to ever exist!.
Ok...you got my sub. Awesome vid!!!!
In my school vr game there's a 4th version of tallgeese that galahorn revolutionary fleet had made but it basically the Ems 010 Zita a rushed unit that been made but that's not all the frame was from the original tallgeese the same unit that got ripped to shreds by a cyberdemon
why did you repeat never seen again 2 times
is it because we never saw how the frozen teardrop gundams look like
OG Tallgeese was always my favorite due to the relatively (for Gundam anyway) straightforward design without too much embellishment. Like an armored knight, but with a jetpack and the cannon off the deck of a cruiser.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!!
Do a video on the PMX-003 The-O!!
Is it wrong I think the O is surprisingly ugly looking?
Or maybe I'm just truamatized from the time in SRW3 it parked in a lake and was one shotting everything.
@@brettwood1351 not just ugly, its possibly the biggest PoS in the entire first half of the UC. it makes no sense in any way, and i still defend that if he were to pilot something less shit, like a zaku 1, he could probably have lived that last fight.
god do i hate the o...
@@marcosdheleno And I thought I was all alone in the world... Also as final boss suit gimmicks go, having some skinny arms hidden in the front skirt armor is kinda... Meh.
My favorite is the non-canon version that is not mentionned in this video, the Tallgeese Valkyrie. It's basically the Tallgeese but the dober canon has been replaced by the Tallgeese III's Mega beam canon, the verners have more engin funnels and it is sporting a sick dark green paint job.
It's featured in the anime Gundam Build Fighter
Whew. Almost unsubbed thought the main reason I subbed was no longer produced. Glad to see another development video (do not be discouraged. I will stay now that I know it’s just a rarity and not discontinued) 🎉
Tall geese 3 is the final improvment that would ever be needed so
Yeah.
12:27
Yea…
*flashbacks to treize getting a trident through his chest*
“Reasons”…
More impressive head crest is the most important upgrade one can get
The Tallgeese is one of my favorite suits in that series. Always enjoyed seeing either it or its subsequent models on screen
Lets go, who knows if the Tallgeese can get one, maybe the Flag can too as outdated moblie suits that still kick ass.
I remember jokes that Grahams final suit should have been the Gundam Flag, a suit that combines the best aspects of both Gundam tech, and the Flag's design.
He kinda does do that with the stage play story.
I love the Tallgeese as it's such a fantastic brute force suit. Thanks for this video!
Tallgeese is my absolute favorite Mobile Suit of all time!
the one used by Wufei's wife is interesting as we don't now how many of the original Tallgeese units were made.
I have an idea for your next development history video. How about the history of the Jesta line of mobile suits
yay you made a tallgeese video fuck yeah I love the tallgeese.
I really need to look into frozen Tear drop. So many but ball things seemed to have happened in it. Three different zero systems and like a zillion weird variant suits.
to be fair, the original series had 2 diferent zero systems as well. with the one on the epyon being diferent from the W0's.
@@marcosdheleno but narratively they were the same. They did the same things and were only different in name and interface.
@@shindoushuichi0287 actually, they werent the same, we are never told the diference, but knowing treize, its probably the reason zechs went insane after piloting the epyon.
@@marcosdheleno both the zero and epyon systems did the same thing. Analyzed battle data and tried to force the pilot to make the most optimal decision to win the battle. That’s the basic premise of the systems. So they were functionally the same. If there was a distinction between the systems that was that big they would have addressed it but they didn’t so it’s reasonable to assume they were nearly identical.
@@shindoushuichi0287 they did the same thing, but they were not the same. the epyon has a custom version of the zero system. it is similar sure, but not the same. and that's my point.
I remember I was the only one at school (and home) who liked this show. People thought they talked too much but if you paid attention there was a bunch of story and build up to the fights. The episode where they tease Epyon and then show him 2 ep later was still the standard to me on how to present a 6th gundam in a 5 gundam based show
Holy shit it's happening also do you have a patreon or can you enable the channel memberships feature yet
14:13 the MS that started Wufei's sexism
Man I love watching three over and over.😂 Nostalgia is great for lore channels!
I always loved the Tallgeese I. I used to look everywhere for the old No Grades just so I had them. Then they announced the RG Tallgeese and now I just need the PBandai ones
Tallgeese 3 has always been my favorite version, from the Hyper Beam Cannon to the Heat Whip, it was an all around and very outstanding mobile suit.
Talking about the Dober Gun the game SD Gundam G Generation Crossrays has both the Ballistic and Beam shots useable when using a Tallgeese so it could be a case that there’s a single dober gun that can fire in both styles (probably with some slight reconfiguration before alternate firing)
Ever since I was a kid watching wing on toonami, the tallgeese had my attention. It's in my top 3 favorite Mobile suites.
My pick? Definitely the original model in the TV anime colors. The light gray vernier pods of the EW version don't give enough visual contrast. The Tallgeese has always been a little problematic in real-life model kit form because of its top-heavy weight balance (the dober gun actually helps offset its weight disitribution) and disproportionately small feet, which is my only gripe against it.
Love the tallgeese i even built a new model based on the tallgeese in Gundam breaker and can you do one of the team throne from Gundam 00
Beam Dober Gun is just part of the neccessary space combat modifactions. Projectiles are close to useless in space unless they can home in on the target. Beams, melee, and missiles are the space meta
i still love the tallgeese 3 version very cool design and weapon