How about Final Fantasy: Spirits Within? While I personally think its an okay movie in its own right, "Wha' Happun'?" to get the Final Fantasy name attached to it?
Batman V Superman. You will have so much content to work with because they tried to do a Batman v Superman movie in the 90s. Seriously, now that it's been over 3 years I do believe someone should objectively talk about that film and the production leading up to bvs Dawn of Justice
FUCKING SAME! Actually, I did just pause it at that and went to go look at the comments. Omfg, talk about completely missing the point, and shitting on the source material!
Well to be fair, most Godzilla reboots had him being solo. The first movie he was alone. The first 90's movie, he was alone. And in the newest Toho movie, he was also alone. The movie could have been just fine with only Godzilla in it.... the problem is that it was not Godzilla. His name was just slapped on because it was popular, and they ruined every single thing that makes Godzilla what he is. He's not called GODzilla just to sound cool. They dropped the ball big time and almost destroyed Godzilla's reputation. In short, this movie is the Dragon Ball Evolution of all Godzilla movies.
@@ShadowknightEX he didn't have heat vision in the Golden Age. His only powers then were jumping really high (eventually flying in 1941), power breath, x-ray vision and super strength and that was it. His other powers did not come until the silver age and, woa I got way off of this video's topic talking about Superman on a Godzilla subject.
I wasted my whole third grade year anticipating this movie and enjoying the mysterious marketing. I was disappointed when I saw the movie because I was a Godzilla fan since 1993 having seen many Godzilla films and having five on VHS. This Movie touched me when I was a kid and I cannot show you where.
I know this is super old but when i saw that quote i was reminded of this one "What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. [...] Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
@@stephenramos2824 They weren't fans, but they were good filmmakers and were managed well. Godzilla 98 was made by people that weren't fans and were mediocre filmmakers. You really couldn't ask for a better recipe for disaster.
Godzilla: [ famous for throwing down with other monsters at the climax of practically EVERY film ] Roland Emmerich: "Ugh! That's dumb. Who'd pay to see that?"
@Ivan Ringle Its also very metaphorically political but in a good way and is very upfront with its horror aspects at least the original one was not the US dub and Emerich was kinda disrespectful to the og Godzilla suitmation believing that Japan didn't know how to use stop motion even though they clearly did but they used the suit because stop motion would have taken too much time
Roland Emerich 1998"who would pay to see two monsters fighting" List of movies since 1998: •godzilla 2014 •power rangers 2016 •Kong skull island •Godzilla King Of The Monsters •predators •Rampage •pacific rim •pacific rim uprising •Hell boy •Hell boy 2 the golden army
@@michaeljason2593 Neither does OG Godzilla. OG Godzilla is a trundling fat idiot lizard, that's why people love him! But he does not look particularly indestructible beyond the movies having coded people to pretend a thing made of living matter can do anything but die horribly upon missile exposure.
@@lucyditee Personally, I think the comparative sleekness is part of what makes it a compelling design- it gives it a fairly unique profile among giant monsters and conveys a sense of speed that such beasts lack. It makes for a different experience, and that's something frequently missing in a lot of monsters.
@@lucyditee So large bulky animals like elephants and hippos *can* run faster than you'd think, but the truly fast animals that want to use speed as a major part of their plan need a certain degree of leanness to them, and they'll always be faster than the former. Cheetahs, obviously, but big cats and big dogs/wolves in general. Runners need muscle, yes, but it needs to be lean where possible- the laws of aerodynamics are merciless. Its also less about speed, in the sense that the work just says that the monster is going really fast, and speed in the sense that it *feels* like the monster is going really fast. A Heisei film can say Godzilla's going as fast as it wants, that still won't help the fact that the design looks more elephantine than komodine. I personally find that Zilla makes a decent balance there- its clearly muscular, but its lean muscle, plenty streamlined for ease of zoom (and no wonder; everything I've seen indicates that Zilla was more directly based on actual monitor lizards than Godzilla ever was). This concludes me talking for way too long about the design of a long-forgotten misbegotten 90's Godzilla adaptation.
@i want to commit literal genocide. Kid, this is just how he views Zilla as her own monster. Yes while Zilla was still killed by missiles designed to blow up battleships, which in my mind should have knocked her the fuck out, and her design is shit to look at, I think it could use tweaking to make it look intimidating. But personally, I would have Zilla look like an actual iguana. Her therapod stance would be at 70 meters and her upright stance would be 92 meters tall. She would have muscles to give her serious strength for her lifts and strikes while her tail would be powerful to send light weight enemies flying while staggering heavy weight ones and unleashing a shockwave with her whips to hit any opponent that is too far away from her. She would have strong jaws to help her bite force crush metal and stones with bones strong enough to resist ocean pressures. She would also have a sonic hurricane blast and a gamma ray beam if her physical strength isn't enough. As for her attitude, she would fight her opponent to the death and would rather die fighting where she stands as opposed to running away at the first sign of danger. And be durable to take man made weaponry alongside alien technology and other monster attacks while feeding on gamma radiation to power herself up.
Not really… Ruined for Emmerich. Most of his movies (until recently) were actually pretty lucrative. It’s only with his last few pictures did they actually bomb.
From IMDB: "Dean Devlin aggressively defended the movie on internet message boards, at times telling the Godzilla fans "to hell with you" if they had a negative opinion over it. The official Godzilla message board was shut down soon thereafter due to all the heated arguing. Years later, Devlin has admitted to recognizing the movie's faults and apologized to the fans in various interviews." :p
Ima have to disagree with you there. While I did enjoy the series (I still play the game boy game from time to time) it's still no Godzilla. Just a better representation if what GINO was capable of if given a better opportunity to shine.
The animated series was surprisingly good indeed. I was always slightly confused why Zilla Jr. was so much more of a Godzilla than its parent though. Maybe Zilla was a runt?
@Baron o SpiralsCome to think of it, Jeff Kline and Richard Raynis had a very good track record when it came to adapting movies into animation. Godzilla, Men in Black, Extreme Ghostbusters, Jumanji...
The 1st movie is about a giant lizard trying to survive against humanity. The cartoon has other monster which the giant lizard fights which a better setting.
@@8Kazuja8 Fil Barlow was the creature designer on Godzilla the Series and Extreme Ghostbusters. He really had a knack for putting together monsters, and is still one of my favorites. Heck, his concept art for the Mighty Ducks cartoon were wicked, but I think Disney thought they might be too grotesque. It's a shame that the last time I checked, he hadn't been involved in any projects for a while. I guess I don't have to say I was a fan of the show. Even the humans characters were better written than the film, but then again a Sat morn cartoon can get away with being a little...well, cartoony.
@@SFforlife completely agree. It doesn't get the praise it deserves. Gigan may have been the first to make Godzilla bleed but Hedorah gave a NUCLEAR POWERED kaiju a CHEMICAL BURN. That's impressive
@@rndmpinkiepie64 Oh yeah, he’s such a super cool and interesting design too. Love his multiple forms. He’s much more dangerous and powerful than just a toxic sludge.
You don't necessarily have to be a diehard fan of something to be qualified to make an adaptation of it, but you should at least understand why people like it and respect it enough to want to do it justice. The team behind Godzilla '98 did neither.
As a general monster movie, I feel like if the guys behind the series made this film it would have been awesome. Or if it was directed by Michael Bay or Zack Snyder, the story and action would be better than what Emmerich gave us.
I was 8-9 when I watched it. I liked it because... Well. It has a giant monster. After turning 10 I got familiarized with the real Gojira and my views changed.
@@MetalGearRaxis Because she's the only Kaiju who has always been a protector, the only reasons she has attacked humanity is because some guys kidnapped her priestesses and later because she was controlled by aliens. She is a benign kaiju, and is immortal, always being reborn through her egg.
@@dexterjones849 That's the thing. If they went full on with creating their own brand new kaiju and called him something like Raptoid or wtf, they'd end up with a pretty fun monster flick. But no, they had to get the license only to ignore it and do everything to not be what they licensed. Stupid idiots.
They would have been perfect for the movie! How dare they scrap Stan Winston’s proposed designs for Godzilla in favor of Devlin and Emmerich’s T-Rex design?
At least the 2014 movie was an improvement and the 2019 version is a love leter to kaiju fans. Henstly the only good thing about the 1998 movie was the animated series, at least Zilla Jr tried to live up to the expectetions of the old Godilla's.
KOTM was a beautiful looking film but my God were the human characters so fucking dumb (they somehow wasted Eleven meeting Tywin Lannister), Godzilla 2014 I think is the better film for it's darker atmosphere and succeed in making it grounded but the human characters were boring but at least they were smart (but they killed off Walter fucking White in the lamest way possible), so in my opinion Kong: Skull Island is the best Monsterverse film. Yeah the human characters are forgettable but John C. Reilly, Samuel L. Jackson, and John Goodman are fun as fuck to hang around, it looks beautifully, has a nice soundtrack, the Kaiju action is glorious and the human characters actually fucking help out.
@sgt dornan Well you clearly haven't seen 90% of the Godzilla films because pretty much all of them except for a few are Godzilla going at it with a bunch of other monsters.
@@johnnyr2646 that's partly the fault of critics who tried to review both Godzilla 2014 and KoTM not for what they are, fun monster movies showing tribute to a pop culture classic, but for what they wanted and expected all movies to have, human character focus and some deep story to follow that revolves around them. Alongside the people who weren't used to movies like classic era Godzilla and were more used to the usual human character driven stories with at times some deep theme to follow
I would love a "Hulk (2003) - What Happened?" I watched that movie all the time when it came out, but looking back at it made it clear that it had some issues. It'd be awesome to see you take a look a Shrulk the Ogre and tell us exactly wha happuned.
@@tydyman2003 Yeah, the comic book-esque transitions were unique, but they weren't implemented well. The only thing I can confidently say I like about the film is Hulk's size. That baby-faced mofo is *LARGE.*
I haven't seen it since it first came out but I actually liked it for just how it was so unapologetically arthouse. Maybe not the best Hulk movie, but not an outright stinker.
@@TheSecondOne123 The far-off reaches of your brain are correct, Abbey. There was, in fact, a Hulk poodle. I also remember Hulk punching one of the dogs in the dick after they bit his. Such wacky hijinx.
14:12 and there it is, there's the entire problem. Japan: "We created a monster as a metaphor to contextualize nuclear destruction." US: "We can kill a nuke metaphor with our guns and missiles, HOORAH!" Japan: "...have you ever *been* nuked, US? Do you know what it's like to have multiple major cities purged in hellfire?"
@@Tridd666 The US isn't the only one with nukes, a more accurate depiction of the situation would be a Mexican Standoff of MANY Godzillas, and the second one makes a move they'll all make a move and destroy us all, regardless of the team jerseys any given Godzilla is wearing.
I actually didn't mind the Zilla design but running away from military and being vulnerable to missiles was a huge slap in the face. The lack of a radioactive beam was the final insult.
That was always confusing to me in this film. I mean, two times it looks like it has a "fire breath" but, at the same time, it actually looks like it just roars and the ubiquitous taxis in this film would just ignite like they're in a Michael Bay movie.
Apparently, Zilla is meant to have "flammable breath" that ignites when the flung cars explode. Why the said cars even explode or how this flammable breath doesn't come into play with all the ballistic detonations going on in and around its big, ugly mug is a total mystery. I've heard that the scenes were stitched in towards the end of production in an effort to placate inevitable fan backlash from the lack of any kind of breath-based attacks.
Yeah I was in a similar view, I was a kid and never really seen the original design. Though I thought a number of characters and the whole 'drawn to fish' was mundane and boring as anything given a advert for the film had it stomping on a skeleton T Rex. When i got older and became more aware of the internet and social media did I note how much of a drop Zilla was to *GOD*ZILLA (I figured the directors for the 98 flop would pick up on that bit!)
I was 6 as well and thought it was boring as hell. Even at that time I hated the design of Godzilla. The hype for the movie was real back then though lol
@@Aliens1337 Let me me sum it up for you: in one scene, a plot point is introduced that adds some much needed tension to the film. That plot point is solved in the very next scene. They didn't even take the time to pretend like they didn't know how to solve it. "Oh no, this bad thing happened! What are we going to do?" "I know a guy." It's like someone said "we can't go five minutes without Hellboy shooting something".
@@patoren3gou653 No, the trailer was a very cliché summer blockbuster movie trailer with cheeky "jokes" and some music that creates an "action packed but harmless fun" mood. That is nothing like JoJo, not in style, not in atmosphere, not even close in any way.
Tbch I actually really liked that movie.. it was enjoyable and had a lot of bits clearly meant to be shout-outs to fans of the comics. It was kind of "all over the place" in terms of plot, but at no point did I actually feel upset at the movie? It was a fun romp, but that's just me.
“I didn’t want anything to do with the original Godzilla, I wanted to make my own.” This is where the movie became shit. Also, YOUR Godzilla is inferior and isn’t the real Godzilla and I’m glad it got 2 shot by the real Godzilla in Final Wars.
All it took for Hollywood to make a proper and decent Godzilla movie is to let Legendary Pictures handle the film and make Godzilla do what he does best... raise hell and burn everything to the ground
They went the Zack Snyder route: "hey, you know all they things people love about this character? What if, get this, we do NONE of that? Won't it be great???"
How did Zack Snyder ruined the justice league again? All it seems to me he added his own interpretation while still remaining loyal to the original source material. Seriously, it’s funny how some of you want character development and yet you still expect Superman to be this perfect super hero on his first movie.
Agent: Okay, Goji, so here's what's gonna happen Godzilla: Okay, I'm all ears Agent: You can't fight other kaiju Godzilla: oka- Agent: You can't use your atomic breath Godzilla: wha- Agent: You can't be nigh immune from human weaponry and artillery Godzilla: Excuse m- Agent: And you can't be thicc Godzilla: Rude Godzila: Okay but what /can/ I do? Agent: Uhh. . . Run really fast Godzilla: uhh- Agent: And have babies? Godzilla: With who??? Agent: Agent: No one but yourself :,) Godzilla:
@@uwu1234-i6j point but if i remember correctly Minilla is adopted and im not sure abt BabyG so he might either be adopted as well or Goji really is the dad
I never watched game of thrones. Only some scenes, mostly about the white walkers cuz i found them to be cool (HAH puns). So after the latest season and reading peoples reviews on it (the holy comment section) here how i think its pretty much went. Season 1 : the white walkers......a myth..... Season 2 : creatures with teriffiyng powers...... Season 3 : who were defeated and banished in the frozen wastelands.... Season 4 : a great wall was build to keep them away.....and after many years the were forgotten... Season 5 : Just as the walls original purpose was forgoten and now serves as a sort of prison... Season 6 : But nobody knew that the same threath from so long ago would return... Season 7 : as the night king destroys the wall and sets its sight for conquest.....his motives unknown..... Season 8 : He dies and so do all other white walkers, so after that in kings landing..... Season 1-7 : wait what?!?!?! dude we just hyped him to be the greatest threath in the land..... Season 8 : *HE DIED* moving on!!!1 Season 1-7 : dont we have a say in this... Season 8 : you are all over sooooooo....no. Season 1-7 : wait why is kings landing on a desert its suposed to be surounded by forests and hills....... Season 8 : global warming caused this. Now let me just go to the toilet i have to shit out the rest of the episodes.
The two guys behind it were going to do a Star Wars tv show so they fast tracked the last season. Fortunately/unfortunately the show was canceled before it even started which means GoT got the Mass Effect Andromeda treatment
The creature design was actually very well done ... athletic, menacing, and less like a guy in a rubber suit. But the movie they made for it was garbage. Total dumpster fire. Just my two cents.
Jean Reno? He’s in the first Mission Impossible film, Nikita (the film), Ronin (featuring Bobby de Niro and Sean Bean who doesn’t bite the dust) and of course, Leon featuring Natalie Portman and Gary Oldman whose notable line is... EVERYONE!!!!!!!
I actually really liked the cartoon series that followed this disaster of a movie. Call me crazy, but Godzilla: The Series was (and still is) an enjoyable show to watch. I have the whole series on DVD and rewatch it every so often and it's still good. At least, I think so, but I have a huge soft spot for cartoons so it's probably just bias talking.
Growing up here in Canada, my childhood was Godzilla 2000 and Godzilla: The Series cartoon. They were the reasons why my brother and I became fans. Didn't see the 1998 film until years later, and didn't like it. Still it was the reason we had the animated series, so at least some good came out of it
Speaking of that design, I forget what home media release this on but one of the designers on the Transformers brand said "When giving a character a new look, you have to keep familiar design elements in, so people can reconize and accept that as the character." (i.e. Optimus' color scheme and window moobs) Which I think Zilla so revered because it has nothing in common with the big G outside of the dorsal fins and being reptilian. Side note: Godzilla 2014 was so successful in Japan it wae the only non-Disney movie that was at #1 at box office that year...for a week
Optimus was literally the only character that resembled his original source material, well there was shockwave in dark of the moon but that was horrible.
They actually released the entire story that was going to be the sequel online a while ago. Call it the worlds biggest overcorrection ever. Remember how Roland Emmerich said “he didn’t like two giant monsters fighting?“ Well, the movie has two giant monsters fighting. It has its own version of monster island with its own unique set of original monsters. Godzilla actually has its nuclear breath, Albeit it is green.They introduced to the idea that the reason why Godzilla doesn’t have all of the signature abilities is because each generation of Godzilla develops a new one. The ones that hatched in movie 1 received the breath and the idea was that the baby in movie was going to develop the indestructibility when it reached maturity.
Its utterly astounding just how much Emmerich and Devlin loathed the source material, and it's even more astounding how there are Godzilla fans who still defend these clowns.
But at least he/she/whatever got to see that her one surviving boy got to be STRONG. Real durability and radiation breath, intelligent enough to make moral decisions... Jr. had it all!
Agreed. The cartoon was absolutely spectacular, but lost in a typical kids cartoon show slot. Was certainly better than those woeful cgi Godzilla films this year.
The real tragedy is that this concept really could have been done well. If you look at today's Godzilla they balanced the grounded approach with the fantasy elements, ie they made the absurd notions into reasonable pseudoscience. The design of Godzilla wasn't awful in this film , but the whole premise of Godzilla is that he's well ... A God or Godlike creature this Godzilla was so animal like that we didn't get to fear him or get the thrill of seeing this Godlike creature defend the earth ( literally the only two plots Godzilla movies have). I honestly felt sorry for Godzilla and that's not what we should feel about Godzilla. Godzilla should either bring us fear , in the process making us afraid of the forces of nature or the dangers of nuclear power, or we should be inspired as we breathe a sigh of relief that this God like creature has come to save us either from an alien threat or even from ourselves. It's just sad really all around , but at least we got the animated series,
I think TOHO's own Shin Godzilla is a good example of what you say. Is easily one of the most distant from "core" Godzilla experience, but it succeeds by playing the "unstoppable force of nature" and "godlike being" angle very hard. Heck, they even decided for that movie that Gojira meant "Incarnation of god".
@@kabuto1859 Well the cartoon was handled by a team of competent creative people who actually knew how to create a story with giant monsters people would want to see.
I haven't seen it in ages, but I remember liking it as a kid. And just to be clear, even as a kid I didn't like the 1998 film. My disdain for it has only grown with time.
that would be very interesting since the writer for that film issued a public apology like 7 years after the film came out, saying he only took the job for the money and not out of passion
Evolution is also interesting because in a way it led to the revival of Dragon Ball we have now. Toriyama was so unhappy with how badly represented Dragon Ball was for that movie that he decided he would bring the series back with Battle of Gods and be more directly involved with the production. So without Evolution being as bad as it was we wouldn't have got Battle of Gods, Resurrection of F, the DB Super Anime, the DB Super Manga continuation or the new Broly movie. Not to mention all the new stuff for Dragon Ball games too like FighterZ or Kakarot.
2:59 is surprisingly wholesome, I dunno if that is on purpose but I always loved the wholesome side of godzilla, like going on dates, holding a guitar, being made a citizen of japan, he is their rock star, and you gotta love how they treat him.
I did like in the Final Wars movie when Zilla appeared the song "We're All To Blame" by Sum 41 was playing in the background. I thought the presence of English music, rock to counter Godzillas otherwise orchestral score, was a fantastic contrast to reveal Zilla with. I like the big "G" (Godzilla was my childhood) and could appreciate the American Godzilla Movie at the time for what it was (not what it pretended to be) and enjoyed the jab Toho had taken toward Zilla for the art that it was. It was like, "Dude, Godzilla just killed Zilla! Senpai has noticed us!"
I'm not even a huge Godzilla fan (from lack of seeing anything related to it even though the concept itself sounds amazing) but those guys and how they decided to handle the big guy seriously pisses me off. The mentality they had of "oh, this is stupid regardless of how beloved and popular this franchise is so I have the answer on how to change it for the better" always leads to giant heaping piles of diarrhea that stink for decades on. Give people who wanted nothing to do with Godzilla to make a movie about him, such a wonderful fucking idea that was.
17:38 This quote stuck with me for how soul crushing it is in terms of wasted opportunities. They took a jewel and turned it into dust How many times have we seen that happen, things that could have been great
I knew the guy that got hired to be Godzilla in the suit. He used to preform for schools where I grew up. He told us a story from the audition. He said that another actor was likely to get the part because he had been a gorilla in Congo and was well known. He said the only reason that guy lost the part is that he picked up the director to show off his strength.
The unfortunate part is that the redesigned image is actually pretty cool. You totally could have made this a giant monster in any other movie, like a fantasy adventure or a science fiction planet exploration thing... Anything else at all really. I could even imagine it fitting in in Star Wars
It'll be a great topic to cover. But there is very little info about it other then Capcom didn't think it would of sell 4 million units (that was their magic number for a LOT of projects back then) and canned it.
@@popplio7891 I don't remember who, but I remember hearing a higher up at Capcom said he didn't mind that it didn't sell as well as past Resident Evil games because they'd come to understand that good games lead to better sales in the future and bad games lead to worse sales - basically implying they knew that's why it didn't do as well as it 'should have'. From what I heard the company didn't shame it for 'failing to meet expectations' or anything.
I gotta love how brutally savage the Millenium series can be on the 1998 film Godzilla 2000: has Godzilla fighting a alien based off Emerich's film Independece day, who then becomes Orga a monster who resembles Zilla and is trying to be Godzilla, then get's blown away by the real deal as a message that the 1998 film can never understand, the spirit of Godzilla GMK: Has 2 kids roasting the film by doubting if that was even godzilla Godzilla Final Wars: named him Zilla, added him with the worse CGI possible, can't even last a second and dies to the Real Godzilla
I love that a lot of it is due to the cartoon guys only having the most vague descriptions of things. Nick Tatopoulos, for one example, is a classic man of action in the cartoon, with no weird quirks from the movie version. It's actually a lot like how General Grevious was portrayed as cool and silent in the Clone Wars animated shorts, only to be a bumbling fool in Episode III. Sometimes cartoon staff just make things cool because no one told them to ruin it.
The cartoon's writers obviously actually liked the source material. I mean, the elements of this movie, which I guess were the same as the series, were questionable but not unsalvageable. What this whu huppon made painfully clear was that what really make this movie an embarrassment was that it was made by people who couldn't have given less of a shit about the source material it was being adapted from. That can kill anything.
The only redeeming feature of those Godzilla was that while a constant theme of the older Godzilla movies is that nature ultimately rules mankind, mankind can still cause destruction of nature through pollution and extinction and Nick feeling remorse about sending the Zilla species to exctintion was an interesting take. Shin Godzilla did it better though
Yo that first version of Godzilla would have been interesting to see. I think after some time it would be a good idea to do one of these for that new hellboy movie
HahaCorckondile LeaveBedding While that isn’t going to happen (although technically it did, the 2014 movie has some of the same script writers, who just basically took the old script and rearranged it.) there IS or WAS a comic being produced.
Not gonna lie: this was one of my favorite movies as a kid, right up there with Jurassic Park, Jurassic Park 2, and Gremlins 2. Still think the design was great seperate from the original design.
This movie is always a hit or miss with people. I love it for some reason and when I asked my boyfriend if he liked it and when he said yes I was so freaking happy! We both even like Batman and Robin...yes...that Batman and Robin...my dad wasn’t proud but he loved me 😭
Scott Pilgrim is a movie about Canadian hipsters having a romantic spat who randomly happen to exist in the world of an old school beat-em-up game. (I love showing it to people who aren't expecting the fighting.) I think it's great, but it's just too wacky and genre-bending for a lot of people. It'd be news to me if anything actually went wrong in production!
@@stranger59 lol no When I was younger my brother and I would watch movies when we visited our grandmother because she had a big shelf stuffed full of VHS tapes and he just Kept bullying me into letting him pick Waterworld. I stopped watching movies with him entirely after awhile.
I personally love the idea of Zilla being more surmount to a subspecies/cousin species than an actual Godzilla. Like Big G is the T-Rex and Zilla is a Raptor. I wouldn't mind seeing Zilla in the Monsterverse at some point. Even if just as a mention of being a similar species that died out.
As someone with no awareness or investment in the storied history of actual Godzilla, '98 'Zilla is a perfectly functional monster movie with a nice creature design, better effects than Jurassic Park 3, and just the right amount of campy humor for a light popcorn-flick. One of my most-degraded VHS tapes back in the day.
This film seemed closer to the beast from 20,000 fathoms more than godzilla, which imo isnt a bad thing. Watching this 20 something years later and its great nostalgia.
You could make a long and detailed Wha Happun? on Alien 3. There's a lot of info about how the studio screwed over David Fincher and about how many ideas and scripts they went through for that film.
@@trustno173 The lips are in the movie, it was actually proposed to Giger by Fincher. You can clearly (to an extent) see them when The Dragon makes his first appearance as a full grown runner and in that iconic "Ripley face to face with an Alien" scene.
I have to agree that the lips are a bit...much. Even the best artists are gonna drop a dud idea or two. But yeah that was the least of Alien3's problems. There's been a lot of documentaries about it on youtube but I certainly wouldn't mind a whu happon about it too.
Rob Fried: "The Sony Executive Team that took over Godzilla was one of the worst cases of executive incompetence I have observed in my twenty year career." Kathleen Kennedy's LucasArts: "Hold my brandy."
@@theangryholmesian4556 That's the best job she will ever do.. Be a worthless *co* producer, while a vastly superior producer and director like Spielberg makes all the important decision.
Excellent work on this. I remember when this came and bombed. At the time I mostly only knew Godzilla through Mystery Science Theater 3000 and even I hear titled when I first saw his design in this. I have a suggestion for a movie. While I honestly like the film, an episode on the 2009 Astro Boy movie from Imagi would be a good subject I think.
I used to work for Rob Fried (Pronounced like Freed by the way, not that it really matters). One time in a meeting a new hire wanted to kiss ass by saying "I loved the Matthew Broderick Godzilla by the way" and that meeting went from a "state of the business" meeting into a 2 hour rant on why this film represented everything wrong with Hollywood.
I need this because I NEED to know "Wha Happun" to Jem and the Holograms. I was pretty excited when they announced that they were going to have a Jem movie only to be sorely disappointed by the trailers. As much as the original Jem was 80s cheese, it was the best 80s cheese. It's like Cheez Whiz!
I like the design for Zilla. But I dont think it's a good Godzilla at all, or movie. If the movie was like a good Godzilla movie , and Zilla was bigger and a villain for Godzilla, I think it could have worked.
Actually Toho approved this design, and so I do. The only problem with it that it needs to stand in upright pose like the Japanese Godzilla. Also If Zilla was much more aggresive and durable and had atomic breath like his son, he would've been a cool Godzilla.
@@AstroGodzilla23 This incarnation had a lot of neat abilities that could've made for a great Godzilla film. The problem was more that the crew didn't even seem to know how to use any of them effectively. They could've had the main Zilla be more of a pack leader with the babies posing a ground level threat and maybe some intermediate stages to back it up. Instead of Godzilla being just one entity, this version could've been a different force of nature like a big infestation sweeping through cities while the military tries to take it down and balance how much contamination gets spread from all the dead Zilla bodies while the main one continues to grow into a more traditional looking Godzilla for the final showdown.
They could have done a lot with this. Having Godzilla as the villain is how things pretty much started out, so that aspect is alright. I don't mind him not standing upright either, as it just makes little sense for a giant creature that's proven to be capable of hand to hand combat. The stance of this Godzilla makes more sense, as it can't just be thrown on is back with a little push. But well, why even show the offspring, if it doesn't have much relevance to the plot? And more importantly, who had that killing boner that told him Godzilla goes down with some missiles? Freaking thing is a nuclear bomb incarnate for fucks sake.
"Toho has declared that any subsequent appearances of the 1998 character will be under the name "Zilla," because according to Shogo Tomiyama it "took the 'God' out of 'Godzilla.'"" Damn.
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I say do Mad Max Fury Road next. Didn’t care for it
Definitely do Mars Need Moms that basically killed Robert Zemeckis's animation department.
How about Final Fantasy: Spirits Within? While I personally think its an okay movie in its own right, "Wha' Happun'?" to get the Final Fantasy name attached to it?
Batman V Superman.
You will have so much content to work with because they tried to do a Batman v Superman movie in the 90s.
Seriously, now that it's been over 3 years I do believe someone should objectively talk about that film and the production leading up to bvs Dawn of Justice
Which Mad Max was that? The one that was incredibly well reviewed, won awards and made lots of money?
I had to pause the video and calm myself at the "it's just two monsters fighting" quote.
QJ89 you could almost pass without using the heat vision. I would think we would need Superman to fly at some point however
@@Xenosaurian And it sucked.
FUCKING SAME! Actually, I did just pause it at that and went to go look at the comments. Omfg, talk about completely missing the point, and shitting on the source material!
Well to be fair, most Godzilla reboots had him being solo. The first movie he was alone. The first 90's movie, he was alone. And in the newest Toho movie, he was also alone. The movie could have been just fine with only Godzilla in it.... the problem is that it was not Godzilla. His name was just slapped on because it was popular, and they ruined every single thing that makes Godzilla what he is. He's not called GODzilla just to sound cool. They dropped the ball big time and almost destroyed Godzilla's reputation. In short, this movie is the Dragon Ball Evolution of all Godzilla movies.
@@ShadowknightEX he didn't have heat vision in the Golden Age. His only powers then were jumping really high (eventually flying in 1941), power breath, x-ray vision and super strength and that was it. His other powers did not come until the silver age and, woa I got way off of this video's topic talking about Superman on a Godzilla subject.
Godzilla 1998: Size Does Matter
Also Godzilla 1998: Smaller than the heisei Godzilla
🤣😂
And only taller than the Showa version by ten meters, some of the Millenium incarnations by five, and the first three forms of Shin Godzilla.
Irony
The 1998 movie will always be ZILLA not godzilla
Also smaller than Godzilla Earth, Final Wars Godzilla, and Monsterverse Godzilla.
"We forgot everything about the original Godzilla" could have been the movie's friggin' tagline.
It was at that moment that every single fan of the franchise knew... They were destined to fuck it up.
I wasted my whole third grade year anticipating this movie and enjoying the mysterious marketing. I was disappointed when I saw the movie because I was a Godzilla fan since 1993 having seen many Godzilla films and having five on VHS. This Movie touched me when I was a kid and I cannot show you where.
@@ainsley8149 It could give low morale to the US army.
I thought it was 😂
*this was the first mistake*
"the last half was two monsters going at it and I didn't like that"
*Everybody disliked that*
I know this is super old but when i saw that quote i was reminded of this one
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. [...] Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
So Tristar let a bunch of idiots who don't like Godzilla from the get go have total control of the whole film. MAKES PERFECT SENSE!
@@DrZuluGaming a bunch of whackjobs to make a movie which they don't like the main character the kaiju? Great.
Having non fan's making the film worked for wrath of Khan....just those weren't idiots.
@@stephenramos2824 They weren't fans, but they were good filmmakers and were managed well. Godzilla 98 was made by people that weren't fans and were mediocre filmmakers. You really couldn't ask for a better recipe for disaster.
*YEAH THAT MAKES SENSE*
@@stephenramos2824 Yes, but non-Fans also made Trek 2009...and they were utter incompetents
Godzilla: [ famous for throwing down with other monsters at the climax of practically EVERY film ]
Roland Emmerich: "Ugh! That's dumb. Who'd pay to see that?"
I mean, nothing new there. Roland Emerich just makes one disaster movie after another.
BUT ENOUGH ABOUT HIS CURRENT BOX OFFICE HIYOOOOO!
@Ivan Ringle Its also very metaphorically political but in a good way and is very upfront with its horror aspects at least the original one was not the US dub and Emerich was kinda disrespectful to the og Godzilla suitmation believing that Japan didn't know how to use stop motion even though they clearly did but they used the suit because stop motion would have taken too much time
Roland Emerich 1998"who would pay to see two monsters fighting"
List of movies since 1998:
•godzilla 2014
•power rangers 2016
•Kong skull island
•Godzilla King Of The Monsters
•predators
•Rampage
•pacific rim
•pacific rim uprising
•Hell boy
•Hell boy 2 the golden army
um, EVERYONE DEVILLON AND EMIRICH
Everyone under the sun
The saddest thing to me is that Zilla is actually a perfectly solid giant lizard monster design. It's just not a good Godzilla.
Nah. His design doesn't scream monster you can't defeat, just an animal you can destroy with your own hands and any weapon you have on hand.
@@michaeljason2593 Neither does OG Godzilla. OG Godzilla is a trundling fat idiot lizard, that's why people love him! But he does not look particularly indestructible beyond the movies having coded people to pretend a thing made of living matter can do anything but die horribly upon missile exposure.
@@lucyditee Personally, I think the comparative sleekness is part of what makes it a compelling design- it gives it a fairly unique profile among giant monsters and conveys a sense of speed that such beasts lack. It makes for a different experience, and that's something frequently missing in a lot of monsters.
@@lucyditee So large bulky animals like elephants and hippos *can* run faster than you'd think, but the truly fast animals that want to use speed as a major part of their plan need a certain degree of leanness to them, and they'll always be faster than the former. Cheetahs, obviously, but big cats and big dogs/wolves in general. Runners need muscle, yes, but it needs to be lean where possible- the laws of aerodynamics are merciless.
Its also less about speed, in the sense that the work just says that the monster is going really fast, and speed in the sense that it *feels* like the monster is going really fast. A Heisei film can say Godzilla's going as fast as it wants, that still won't help the fact that the design looks more elephantine than komodine.
I personally find that Zilla makes a decent balance there- its clearly muscular, but its lean muscle, plenty streamlined for ease of zoom (and no wonder; everything I've seen indicates that Zilla was more directly based on actual monitor lizards than Godzilla ever was).
This concludes me talking for way too long about the design of a long-forgotten misbegotten 90's Godzilla adaptation.
@i want to commit literal genocide. Kid, this is just how he views Zilla as her own monster. Yes while Zilla was still killed by missiles designed to blow up battleships, which in my mind should have knocked her the fuck out, and her design is shit to look at, I think it could use tweaking to make it look intimidating.
But personally, I would have Zilla look like an actual iguana. Her therapod stance would be at 70 meters and her upright stance would be 92 meters tall. She would have muscles to give her serious strength for her lifts and strikes while her tail would be powerful to send light weight enemies flying while staggering heavy weight ones and unleashing a shockwave with her whips to hit any opponent that is too far away from her.
She would have strong jaws to help her bite force crush metal and stones with bones strong enough to resist ocean pressures. She would also have a sonic hurricane blast and a gamma ray beam if her physical strength isn't enough.
As for her attitude, she would fight her opponent to the death and would rather die fighting where she stands as opposed to running away at the first sign of danger. And be durable to take man made weaponry alongside alien technology and other monster attacks while feeding on gamma radiation to power herself up.
*Hears that this movie ruined the careers of 2 directors*
Me: Awe, poor guys.
*Learns they had complete creative control.*
Me: I put all blame on you.
Not really… Ruined for Emmerich. Most of his movies (until recently) were actually pretty lucrative. It’s only with his last few pictures did they actually bomb.
@@GojiragonEmmerich is good at making goofy ahh disaster films. They are REALLY dumb but they are entertaining.
@@tetraxis3011I don’t know man, I feel like they don’t fully commit to being goofy and feel tonally inconsistent.
From IMDB: "Dean Devlin aggressively defended the movie on internet message boards, at times telling the Godzilla fans "to hell with you" if they had a negative opinion over it. The official Godzilla message board was shut down soon thereafter due to all the heated arguing. Years later, Devlin has admitted to recognizing the movie's faults and apologized to the fans in various interviews." :p
Geez! And I thought Uwe Boll had a bad attitude towards fans!
Sounds a lot like Rian Johnson and The Last Jedi.
@@kaijupredator4063 Now they changed it to "detractors are Russian trolls".
Too little and way too late. Typical Hollywood shit fest
jeez
I think we can all agree that Zilla Jr from the Godzilla Series has earned the title of “Godzilla”
AMEN!!!!!!!
Yeah
Fuck yeah
Ima have to disagree with you there. While I did enjoy the series (I still play the game boy game from time to time) it's still no Godzilla. Just a better representation if what GINO was capable of if given a better opportunity to shine.
Umm..no but the cartoon show was goid.
Took me a minute to realize that GINO is an acronym for "Godzilla In Name Only".
Just calling it Zilla is simple enough.
Lo Wang: Fuck Zilla
@@dadanishpastry4569 I thought the animated series was pretty cool. Zilla Jr. even had atomic breath.
Ohhhh. I get it now. Thanks for explaining.
Oh...he said he didn't need to explain that nickname, but he really should have.
.....I didn’t understand what Gino was until I read your comment. 🤦🏾♀️
Toho: What? Where is the Godzilla spirit?!
Tristar: *_Gone, reduced to atoms_*
Atleast toho killed zilla
Toho: Look at how they massacred my boy...
Gone, when they made the incarnation of the power of an atom bomb into a hero for child movies.
*i saw that reference*
Omega Plum the spirit is in the Godzilla animated Series
The animated series was surprisingly good indeed. I was always slightly confused why Zilla Jr. was so much more of a Godzilla than its parent though. Maybe Zilla was a runt?
It was written by gen the butcher
@Baron o SpiralsCome to think of it, Jeff Kline and Richard Raynis had a very good track record when it came to adapting movies into animation. Godzilla, Men in Black, Extreme Ghostbusters, Jumanji...
The 1st movie is about a giant lizard trying to survive against humanity. The cartoon has other monster which the giant lizard fights which a better setting.
@@GamerGuysReviews Cyborggodzilla was awesome.
@@8Kazuja8 Fil Barlow was the creature designer on Godzilla the Series and Extreme Ghostbusters. He really had a knack for putting together monsters, and is still one of my favorites. Heck, his concept art for the Mighty Ducks cartoon were wicked, but I think Disney thought they might be too grotesque. It's a shame that the last time I checked, he hadn't been involved in any projects for a while.
I guess I don't have to say I was a fan of the show. Even the humans characters were better written than the film, but then again a Sat morn cartoon can get away with being a little...well, cartoony.
"Pollution crap monster"
Hey, just because that's an accurate description doesn't mean you can say it like it's a bad thing
Poor Hedorah
@@MagnusTonitrum117 hedorah was an awesome kaiju and could've beaten Godzilla if it weren't for human interjection
Hedorah was and still is badass!
@@SFforlife completely agree. It doesn't get the praise it deserves. Gigan may have been the first to make Godzilla bleed but Hedorah gave a NUCLEAR POWERED kaiju a CHEMICAL BURN. That's impressive
@@rndmpinkiepie64 Oh yeah, he’s such a super cool and interesting design too. Love his multiple forms. He’s much more dangerous and powerful than just a toxic sludge.
You don't necessarily have to be a diehard fan of something to be qualified to make an adaptation of it, but you should at least understand why people like it and respect it enough to want to do it justice.
The team behind Godzilla '98 did neither.
I actually saw this in the theatre as a kid. You know a Godzilla movie is bad when even a 12 year old isn't interested in it.
Yeah, the movie has fish and bad CG, and all of that sHIIIIT
I was 10 and lovedddd it.
Looking back? Yikes... 😬
As a general monster movie, I feel like if the guys behind the series made this film it would have been awesome. Or if it was directed by Michael Bay or Zack Snyder, the story and action would be better than what Emmerich gave us.
I was 8-9 when I watched it. I liked it because... Well. It has a giant monster. After turning 10 I got familiarized with the real Gojira and my views changed.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo Yep same... I thought it was super cool as it was the first Monster movie I saw!
"Moth Goddess"
Thank you. Thank you Matt
She's the best
Yes yes yes yes YES
*Creepy fairy twins intensify*
@@MetalGearRaxis Because she's the only Kaiju who has always been a protector, the only reasons she has attacked humanity is because some guys kidnapped her priestesses and later because she was controlled by aliens. She is a benign kaiju, and is immortal, always being reborn through her egg.
YES YES YES.
Jean Reno: What did you see, old man?
Old Man: Gojira??? I think? Wha happun?!
@@GBDupree And Zilla is actually a Good monster if you ask me.
@@dexterjones849 That's the thing. If they went full on with creating their own brand new kaiju and called him something like Raptoid or wtf, they'd end up with a pretty fun monster flick. But no, they had to get the license only to ignore it and do everything to not be what they licensed. Stupid idiots.
William Lowery He was also good in Hotel Rwanda.
I have confirmed reports that was in fact the President of Toho after he saw Zilla!!
Damn, those Stan Winston Godzilla designs looks pretty good
They would have been perfect for the movie! How dare they scrap Stan Winston’s proposed designs for Godzilla in favor of Devlin and Emmerich’s T-Rex design?
The only issue I have is the bright color and fat lower-half, overall it could've been great to see it in action
At least the 2014 movie was an improvement and the 2019 version is a love leter to kaiju fans. Henstly the only good thing about the 1998 movie was the animated series, at least Zilla Jr tried to live up to the expectetions of the old Godilla's.
KOTM was a beautiful looking film but my God were the human characters so fucking dumb (they somehow wasted Eleven meeting Tywin Lannister), Godzilla 2014 I think is the better film for it's darker atmosphere and succeed in making it grounded but the human characters were boring but at least they were smart (but they killed off Walter fucking White in the lamest way possible), so in my opinion Kong: Skull Island is the best Monsterverse film. Yeah the human characters are forgettable but John C. Reilly, Samuel L. Jackson, and John Goodman are fun as fuck to hang around, it looks beautifully, has a nice soundtrack, the Kaiju action is glorious and the human characters actually fucking help out.
@sgt dornan Well you clearly haven't seen 90% of the Godzilla films because pretty much all of them except for a few are Godzilla going at it with a bunch of other monsters.
Plus they were a great way of celebrating Godzilla’s 60th (2014) and 65th (2019) anniversary
@@johnnyr2646 that's partly the fault of critics who tried to review both Godzilla 2014 and KoTM not for what they are, fun monster movies showing tribute to a pop culture classic, but for what they wanted and expected all movies to have, human character focus and some deep story to follow that revolves around them.
Alongside the people who weren't used to movies like classic era Godzilla and were more used to the usual human character driven stories with at times some deep theme to follow
I would love a "Hulk (2003) - What Happened?"
I watched that movie all the time when it came out, but looking back at it made it clear that it had some issues. It'd be awesome to see you take a look a Shrulk the Ogre and tell us exactly wha happuned.
I like it for what they were trying to do which was make it a comic book like as possible, but god that movie was a mess
@@tydyman2003 Yeah, the comic book-esque transitions were unique, but they weren't implemented well. The only thing I can confidently say I like about the film is Hulk's size. That baby-faced mofo is *LARGE.*
I haven't seen it since it first came out but I actually liked it for just how it was so unapologetically arthouse. Maybe not the best Hulk movie, but not an outright stinker.
@@TSDT It's definitely not an AWFUL movie. Hell I wouldn't even say it's the worst Marvel movie. But it took a lot of risks that didn't pay off.
@@TheSecondOne123 The far-off reaches of your brain are correct, Abbey. There was, in fact, a Hulk poodle. I also remember Hulk punching one of the dogs in the dick after they bit his. Such wacky hijinx.
14:12 and there it is, there's the entire problem.
Japan: "We created a monster as a metaphor to contextualize nuclear destruction."
US: "We can kill a nuke metaphor with our guns and missiles, HOORAH!"
Japan: "...have you ever *been* nuked, US? Do you know what it's like to have multiple major cities purged in hellfire?"
US: "We burned down some hollow paper cities with nukes back in the 50's, does that count?"
Ooooh damn that is harsh.
Eh.
The us can body Godzilla precisely because of that though
"We control the nukes, so we control the crude metaphors for nukes"
@@Tridd666 The US isn't the only one with nukes, a more accurate depiction of the situation would be a Mexican Standoff of MANY Godzillas, and the second one makes a move they'll all make a move and destroy us all, regardless of the team jerseys any given Godzilla is wearing.
I actually didn't mind the Zilla design but running away from military and being vulnerable to missiles was a huge slap in the face. The lack of a radioactive beam was the final insult.
That was always confusing to me in this film.
I mean, two times it looks like it has a "fire breath" but, at the same time, it actually looks like it just roars and the ubiquitous taxis in this film would just ignite like they're in a Michael Bay movie.
Apparently, Zilla is meant to have "flammable breath" that ignites when the flung cars explode. Why the said cars even explode or how this flammable breath doesn't come into play with all the ballistic detonations going on in and around its big, ugly mug is a total mystery. I've heard that the scenes were stitched in towards the end of production in an effort to placate inevitable fan backlash from the lack of any kind of breath-based attacks.
I thought zilla wasn't bad.
Then again, in '98, i was 6.
I understand, and i'm glad you enjoyed it. I was 40, and I wanted to cry.
Yeah I was in a similar view, I was a kid and never really seen the original design. Though I thought a number of characters and the whole 'drawn to fish' was mundane and boring as anything given a advert for the film had it stomping on a skeleton T Rex.
When i got older and became more aware of the internet and social media did I note how much of a drop Zilla was to *GOD*ZILLA (I figured the directors for the 98 flop would pick up on that bit!)
I was 6 as well and thought it was boring as hell. Even at that time I hated the design of Godzilla. The hype for the movie was real back then though lol
In 98, I was 2 so I didn't even knew about this flick.
The movie may have been shit, but the toy line it spawned was amazing for the bunch of stupid 5 year olds we were haha!!
This movie is the equivalent of a Twitter Artist making fan art of something and saying “There, I made it better”.
Expect atleast Twitter artists could have made something more inserting and creative than this
@@TheStarBot I really doubt it...
@@TheStarBot *X to doubt*
@@TheStarBot not really
Roland Emmerich: "fiXeD uR ShIt gOdZilLa!"
I have too many recommendations so I'll just cut it down to a few:
The Last Airbender
AI: Artificial Intelligence
Catwoman
Those are good ones.
Dragonball Evolution
@@ForkknifeBattlePass Definitely agreed on that one
We do NOT speak about the last airbender
You have great taste in profile pictures.
A 'Wha Happun' for Hellboy (2019) would be interesting
jonny jonman Is it bad? I have seen mediocre review, but doesn’t seem like a disaster
@@Aliens1337 Let me me sum it up for you: in one scene, a plot point is introduced that adds some much needed tension to the film. That plot point is solved in the very next scene. They didn't even take the time to pretend like they didn't know how to solve it. "Oh no, this bad thing happened! What are we going to do?" "I know a guy." It's like someone said "we can't go five minutes without Hellboy shooting something".
@@patoren3gou653 No, the trailer was a very cliché summer blockbuster movie trailer with cheeky "jokes" and some music that creates an "action packed but harmless fun" mood. That is nothing like JoJo, not in style, not in atmosphere, not even close in any way.
Tbch I actually really liked that movie.. it was enjoyable and had a lot of bits clearly meant to be shout-outs to fans of the comics. It was kind of "all over the place" in terms of plot, but at no point did I actually feel upset at the movie? It was a fun romp, but that's just me.
“I didn’t want anything to do with the original Godzilla, I wanted to make my own.”
This is where the movie became shit. Also, YOUR Godzilla is inferior and isn’t the real Godzilla and I’m glad it got 2 shot by the real Godzilla in Final Wars.
I Like to think Zilla had it's neck snapped by the first tail swing. Everything after was just insult to injury
he roasted himself, LOL!
My favorite red flag quote by them was " Godzilla is a great monster but hes never had a great movie"
Piss off Emmerich and Devlin.
I liked the show
Tristar: lets ruin godzilla!
Toho: Don't make me come down there you little punk!
And thats how we got the 3rd generation of godzilla films
All it took for Hollywood to make a proper and decent Godzilla movie is to let Legendary Pictures handle the film and make Godzilla do what he does best... raise hell and burn everything to the ground
"We forgot everything about the original Godzilla right there."
It was at this moment that Roland knew, he f**ked up.
and he had no regrets
Some one that self centered doesnt fuck up... Everyone else is wrong. Man id love to slap this man. (Not you the directors, just clarifying)
I hate roland emmerich
They went the Zack Snyder route: "hey, you know all they things people love about this character? What if, get this, we do NONE of that? Won't it be great???"
I actually really loved Zack Snyder's DC movies. Man of Steel and BVS is what really got me into comic books and the dc fandom.
Snyder wouldn’t have crapped out this badly. Would have crapped out somehow, just not THIS badly.
How did Zack Snyder ruined the justice league again? All it seems to me he added his own interpretation while still remaining loyal to the original source material. Seriously, it’s funny how some of you want character development and yet you still expect Superman to be this perfect super hero on his first movie.
@@ilikepancakes2368 I think this comment was posted before Snyder's cut of Justice League was released.
@@ilikepancakes2368 His Batman was a murderous lunatic. How is this true to source material
Agent: Okay, Goji, so here's what's gonna happen
Godzilla: Okay, I'm all ears
Agent: You can't fight other kaiju
Godzilla: oka-
Agent: You can't use your atomic breath
Godzilla: wha-
Agent: You can't be nigh immune from human weaponry and artillery
Godzilla: Excuse m-
Agent: And you can't be thicc
Godzilla: Rude
Godzila: Okay but what /can/ I do?
Agent: Uhh. . . Run really fast
Godzilla: uhh-
Agent: And have babies?
Godzilla: With who???
Agent:
Agent: No one but yourself :,)
Godzilla:
I Feel Dead this comment didn’t get enough love 🤣🤣☠️
The real Godzilla managed to do that last part with Minilla and Godzilla Jr so...that's slightly accurate.
@@uwu1234-i6j point but if i remember correctly Minilla is adopted and im not sure abt BabyG so he might either be adopted as well or Goji really is the dad
@@ifeeldead463 Hey, adoption is still technically having kids with yourself.
*_And you can't be thicc_*
My heart broke. :C
In some years, when truth finally comes to light we will have: "Game of Thrones: Wha hapuun".
I never watched game of thrones. Only some scenes, mostly about the white walkers cuz i found them to be cool (HAH puns).
So after the latest season and reading peoples reviews on it (the holy comment section) here how i think its pretty much went.
Season 1 : the white walkers......a myth.....
Season 2 : creatures with teriffiyng powers......
Season 3 : who were defeated and banished in the frozen wastelands....
Season 4 : a great wall was build to keep them away.....and after many years the were forgotten...
Season 5 : Just as the walls original purpose was forgoten and now serves as a sort of prison...
Season 6 : But nobody knew that the same threath from so long ago would return...
Season 7 : as the night king destroys the wall and sets its sight for conquest.....his motives unknown.....
Season 8 : He dies and so do all other white walkers, so after that in kings landing.....
Season 1-7 : wait what?!?!?! dude we just hyped him to be the greatest threath in the land.....
Season 8 : *HE DIED* moving on!!!1
Season 1-7 : dont we have a say in this...
Season 8 : you are all over sooooooo....no.
Season 1-7 : wait why is kings landing on a desert its suposed to be surounded by forests and hills.......
Season 8 : global warming caused this. Now let me just go to the toilet i have to shit out the rest of the episodes.
The two guys behind it were going to do a Star Wars tv show so they fast tracked the last season. Fortunately/unfortunately the show was canceled before it even started which means GoT got the Mass Effect Andromeda treatment
I personally love the design of the 1998 Godzilla as anything but Godzilla.
Mashmarriner69 it's a decent indominus rex
If it was given a different name, it would have been more acceptable.
It's too close to the Alien for its own good. Imagine the head extending backwards instead of down.
The creature design was actually very well done ... athletic, menacing, and less like a guy in a rubber suit. But the movie they made for it was garbage. Total dumpster fire.
Just my two cents.
Yeah, it's a great creature design, but it just ain't Godzilla.
"The less said about the Anime Trilogy...the better." This guy knows his stuff😂
Still would be cool to have a “what happened?” episode of it. Maybe a Patreon exclusive?
My first reaction to the movie:
"Is that the guy from Onimusha 3?
Jean Reno? He’s in the first Mission Impossible film, Nikita (the film), Ronin (featuring Bobby de Niro and Sean Bean who doesn’t bite the dust) and of course, Leon featuring Natalie Portman and Gary Oldman whose notable line is...
EVERYONE!!!!!!!
@@michaelbandada9887 Yeah he might have had some minor roles, but he's mainly known for being the guy from Onimusha 3!
Same here
I actually really liked the cartoon series that followed this disaster of a movie. Call me crazy, but Godzilla: The Series was (and still is) an enjoyable show to watch. I have the whole series on DVD and rewatch it every so often and it's still good. At least, I think so, but I have a huge soft spot for cartoons so it's probably just bias talking.
Probably because the creators knew what Godzilla was about.
Oh, it's a lot of fun
The Gameboy Color game was a blast too
I know right, it took a long time for me to even get into it because the movie really really sucked ass
Yes it was awesome
"I didn't want to make a traditional Godzilla. I wanted nothing to do with it. I wanted to make my own."
And roll credits. We're done here.
Growing up here in Canada, my childhood was Godzilla 2000 and Godzilla: The Series cartoon. They were the reasons why my brother and I became fans.
Didn't see the 1998 film until years later, and didn't like it. Still it was the reason we had the animated series, so at least some good came out of it
Godzilla 98: What if it was Godzilla but also a Jurassic Park rip off?
King Kong*
I thought it was awesome
Waffles _ *jurrasic park
I wonder if the film would be better viewed as a stand alone
So nobody cares that Godzilla Millenium did the same thing?
Oh you're doing films? You're now legally obligated to cover Shyamalan's The Last Airbender
I would say it's been done to death but I never tire seeing people shit on that piece of shit. World watch another video on it for sure
I think the what happened no is just shyamalan, he is what happened.
_sniff_
_sniff_
Anyone else smelling that incoming Godzilla week?
Oh yeah. It smells like hype
@LuchaDandy
Hey with King of The Monsters coming out, I welcome it...
@@cybernurgle6413 it smells cashing in
Whassat smell?
The sweet kaiju...
Oh it sings to me.
It's enough to make a man hype.
@@TheJboy29 Bloodborne references are always appreciated
Speaking of that design, I forget what home media release this on but one of the designers on the Transformers brand said "When giving a character a new look, you have to keep familiar design elements in, so people can reconize and accept that as the character." (i.e. Optimus' color scheme and window moobs)
Which I think Zilla so revered because it has nothing in common with the big G outside of the dorsal fins and being reptilian.
Side note: Godzilla 2014 was so successful in Japan it wae the only non-Disney movie that was at #1 at box office that year...for a week
When you said Zilla is revered did you mean to say reviled?
Optimus was literally the only character that resembled his original source material, well there was shockwave in dark of the moon but that was horrible.
And they seem to ignored that for the Transformers films
The Independence Day makers happened.
I'll be honest, the ending of this movie gave me chills. It gave me hopes of a really good sequel as a young naive child lol.
I’d like to believe that the short-lived cartoon sorta-continuation on Fox Kids was the sequel.
Same lmao but nothing ever happened
They actually released the entire story that was going to be the sequel online a while ago. Call it the worlds biggest overcorrection ever. Remember how Roland Emmerich said “he didn’t like two giant monsters fighting?“ Well, the movie has two giant monsters fighting. It has its own version of monster island with its own unique set of original monsters. Godzilla actually has its nuclear breath, Albeit it is green.They introduced to the idea that the reason why Godzilla doesn’t have all of the signature abilities is because each generation of Godzilla develops a new one. The ones that hatched in movie 1 received the breath and the idea was that the baby in movie was going to develop the indestructibility when it reached maturity.
Its utterly astounding just how much Emmerich and Devlin loathed the source material, and it's even more astounding how there are Godzilla fans who still defend these clowns.
Dean liked Godzilla actually
Actually, truth is, they aren’t just clowns... they’re the *entire circus.*
@@thedx266 nice reference, take my like
...there are defenders?
Huh, learn something new every day.
@@vortexthecomplex5369 YOU AGAIN?!???
(Also,I like Godzilla 98 as a monster movie,but not as a Godzilla movie.Also,who's your favourite Ultraman?)
Geez, no wonder Toho had the Big G bodied Zilla in Final Wars.
@@patoren3gou653 the music is straight roasting zilla
Kinda feel bad for Zilla, was killed, came back and killed again by Godzilla then brought back as a cyborg and killed by his child.
But at least he/she/whatever got to see that her one surviving boy got to be STRONG. Real durability and radiation breath, intelligent enough to make moral decisions... Jr. had it all!
Yeah, only redeeming quality of the movie, the following cartoon was Saturday morning gold.
Agreed. The cartoon was absolutely spectacular, but lost in a typical kids cartoon show slot.
Was certainly better than those woeful cgi Godzilla films this year.
Godzilla 1998 and the Final Wars Zilla are 2 different creatures.
@@nonbituary keep telling yourself that pal.
Godzilla 1998: **Exists**
Japanese: *Swiggity swag, I’m going to put you in the bag*
A body bag
I wonder how many Hollywood executives have to commit seppuku or cut their pinky fingers in order to atone for their misdeeds in handling Godzilla
The real tragedy is that this concept really could have been done well. If you look at today's Godzilla they balanced the grounded approach with the fantasy elements, ie they made the absurd notions into reasonable pseudoscience. The design of Godzilla wasn't awful in this film , but the whole premise of Godzilla is that he's well ... A God or Godlike creature this Godzilla was so animal like that we didn't get to fear him or get the thrill of seeing this Godlike creature defend the earth ( literally the only two plots Godzilla movies have). I honestly felt sorry for Godzilla and that's not what we should feel about Godzilla. Godzilla should either bring us fear , in the process making us afraid of the forces of nature or the dangers of nuclear power, or we should be inspired as we breathe a sigh of relief that this God like creature has come to save us either from an alien threat or even from ourselves.
It's just sad really all around , but at least we got the animated series,
I think TOHO's own Shin Godzilla is a good example of what you say. Is easily one of the most distant from "core" Godzilla experience, but it succeeds by playing the "unstoppable force of nature" and "godlike being" angle very hard. Heck, they even decided for that movie that Gojira meant "Incarnation of god".
Best Thing that came out of this Shitfest? *Godzilla: The Animated Series* .
Somehow a cartoon was better than a film
As well as getting the Heisei films in America
Yup! Because Toho didn't do anything better themselves
@@kabuto1859 Well the cartoon was handled by a team of competent creative people who actually knew how to create a story with giant monsters people would want to see.
I haven't seen it in ages, but I remember liking it as a kid. And just to be clear, even as a kid I didn't like the 1998 film. My disdain for it has only grown with time.
There's a version of this that literally cuts out every mention of the word Godzilla.
Of what? The 1998 Movie?
@@lucyditee No, this UA-cam Video.
How soon before he makes a "Wha Happun" of Dragonball: Evolution?
that would be very interesting since the writer for that film issued a public apology like 7 years after the film came out, saying he only took the job for the money and not out of passion
Evolution is also interesting because in a way it led to the revival of Dragon Ball we have now. Toriyama was so unhappy with how badly represented Dragon Ball was for that movie that he decided he would bring the series back with Battle of Gods and be more directly involved with the production.
So without Evolution being as bad as it was we wouldn't have got Battle of Gods, Resurrection of F, the DB Super Anime, the DB Super Manga continuation or the new Broly movie. Not to mention all the new stuff for Dragon Ball games too like FighterZ or Kakarot.
The day came.
2:59 is surprisingly wholesome, I dunno if that is on purpose but I always loved the wholesome side of godzilla, like going on dates, holding a guitar, being made a citizen of japan, he is their rock star, and you gotta love how they treat him.
I did like in the Final Wars movie when Zilla appeared the song "We're All To Blame" by Sum 41 was playing in the background. I thought the presence of English music, rock to counter Godzillas otherwise orchestral score, was a fantastic contrast to reveal Zilla with. I like the big "G" (Godzilla was my childhood) and could appreciate the American Godzilla Movie at the time for what it was (not what it pretended to be) and enjoyed the jab Toho had taken toward Zilla for the art that it was. It was like, "Dude, Godzilla just killed Zilla! Senpai has noticed us!"
1:16
By buying the right to Zilla and murdering it in a instant in Final Wars. Ah yes i like to watch that part on loop
they didn't "buy the right" - they owned the rights from the get-go.
I'm not even a huge Godzilla fan (from lack of seeing anything related to it even though the concept itself sounds amazing) but those guys and how they decided to handle the big guy seriously pisses me off. The mentality they had of "oh, this is stupid regardless of how beloved and popular this franchise is so I have the answer on how to change it for the better" always leads to giant heaping piles of diarrhea that stink for decades on. Give people who wanted nothing to do with Godzilla to make a movie about him, such a wonderful fucking idea that was.
I glued to the screen as a child watching the old films. I even had the toy.
🦖
Was crushed when I saw the movie…🦎 that is not Godzilla!
17:38 This quote stuck with me for how soul crushing it is in terms of wasted opportunities. They took a jewel and turned it into dust
How many times have we seen that happen, things that could have been great
7:15 _"[Tatopolous] was hired to design the legendary monster."_
I heard that as: _"[Tatopolous] was high when he designed the legendary monster."_ 😶
Both could be true.
He most definitely was though.
LOL
The initial script by Ted and Terry is kinda funny to me knowing that it's way more in line with Gamera instead of Godzilla.
I knew the guy that got hired to be Godzilla in the suit. He used to preform for schools where I grew up. He told us a story from the audition. He said that another actor was likely to get the part because he had been a gorilla in Congo and was well known. He said the only reason that guy lost the part is that he picked up the director to show off his strength.
The unfortunate part is that the redesigned image is actually pretty cool. You totally could have made this a giant monster in any other movie, like a fantasy adventure or a science fiction planet exploration thing... Anything else at all really. I could even imagine it fitting in in Star Wars
Me, 7 years old watching Godzilla 1998: "Where's Godzooki?"
*Sequel bait at the end of the film*
"THERE'S GODZOOKI!"
I love this iteration of Godzilla. I remember kids getting action figures and there was even an animated show with Nick Teutopolis.
I think a Wha Happun on Megaman Legends 3 would be interesting.
Y’know... that game that Capcom told fans was their fault for not releasing?
It'll be a great topic to cover. But there is very little info about it other then Capcom didn't think it would of sell 4 million units (that was their magic number for a LOT of projects back then) and canned it.
@@popplio7891 I don't remember who, but I remember hearing a higher up at Capcom said he didn't mind that it didn't sell as well as past Resident Evil games because they'd come to understand that good games lead to better sales in the future and bad games lead to worse sales - basically implying they knew that's why it didn't do as well as it 'should have'.
From what I heard the company didn't shame it for 'failing to meet expectations' or anything.
It'd be COOL if you did a Wha Happun about the CHILLY reception that greeted Batman and Robin!
...I'll see myself out...
Cool it mr freeze
Wait shit
mortal kombat annihilation
just going to leave that there
Fuck that movie, watch Riki-Oh: The Story of Ricky, a better sequel.
lol I love that movie
I'm just saying its more of a mortal kombat movie than annihilation. Plus comedy gold.
I gotta love how brutally savage the Millenium series can be on the 1998 film
Godzilla 2000: has Godzilla fighting a alien based off Emerich's film Independece day, who then becomes Orga a monster who resembles Zilla and is trying to be Godzilla, then get's blown away by the real deal as a message that the 1998 film can never understand, the spirit of Godzilla
GMK: Has 2 kids roasting the film by doubting if that was even godzilla
Godzilla Final Wars: named him Zilla, added him with the worse CGI possible, can't even last a second and dies to the Real Godzilla
Good thing legendary pictures and Warner Bros Got Godzilla
You should do a 'Wha Happun' on the movie known as Cool World, if that is possible.
God, I hate that movie.
Cool world isn't bad
I think Nostalgia Critic's video on that touched on the reasons at the end
I loved that movie
Yo that cartoon was great though. At least they got something right.
It's weird how cartoon writers can make better scripts than movie writers.
I love that a lot of it is due to the cartoon guys only having the most vague descriptions of things. Nick Tatopoulos, for one example, is a classic man of action in the cartoon, with no weird quirks from the movie version. It's actually a lot like how General Grevious was portrayed as cool and silent in the Clone Wars animated shorts, only to be a bumbling fool in Episode III. Sometimes cartoon staff just make things cool because no one told them to ruin it.
It was though.
The cartoon's writers obviously actually liked the source material.
I mean, the elements of this movie, which I guess were the same as the series, were questionable but not unsalvageable. What this whu huppon made painfully clear was that what really make this movie an embarrassment was that it was made by people who couldn't have given less of a shit about the source material it was being adapted from. That can kill anything.
-Fant4astic
-Hellboy (2019)
-Pixels
-The Cat In The Hat
-Son of the Mask
-Batman & Robin
Those are my Options
Son of the mask is so hard to look at man...
Transformers
Well, at least we got "No Shelter" from Rage Against The Machine.
Somewhere I still have the Taco Bell cup holder. It holds my beer.
This is probably the one and only time someone can say "this was made by people who hate the IP", and actually be right.
The only redeeming feature of those Godzilla was that while a constant theme of the older Godzilla movies is that nature ultimately rules mankind, mankind can still cause destruction of nature through pollution and extinction and Nick feeling remorse about sending the Zilla species to exctintion was an interesting take.
Shin Godzilla did it better though
Yo that first version of Godzilla would have been interesting to see. I think after some time it would be a good idea to do one of these for that new hellboy movie
ARGiammarco 27 I would love to see that first version redone into a new movie
HahaCorckondile LeaveBedding While that isn’t going to happen (although technically it did, the 2014 movie has some of the same script writers, who just basically took the old script and rearranged it.) there IS or WAS a comic being produced.
Not gonna lie: this was one of my favorite movies as a kid, right up there with Jurassic Park, Jurassic Park 2, and Gremlins 2. Still think the design was great seperate from the original design.
No it wasn't
I do also like Gremlins 2
I do like gremlins 2 as well
These videos are fantastic
Don't know if this is your true calling Matt but you're pretty damn good at it
This movie is always a hit or miss with people. I love it for some reason and when I asked my boyfriend if he liked it and when he said yes I was so freaking happy! We both even like Batman and Robin...yes...that Batman and Robin...my dad wasn’t proud but he loved me 😭
I personally loved Scott Pilgrim, and was saddened when it flopped. I would love to see what happened to cause it to bomb at the box office.
Scott Pilgrim is a movie about Canadian hipsters having a romantic spat who randomly happen to exist in the world of an old school beat-em-up game. (I love showing it to people who aren't expecting the fighting.) I think it's great, but it's just too wacky and genre-bending for a lot of people. It'd be news to me if anything actually went wrong in production!
God my stomach lurched when I saw Waterworld in the opening reel
I've been subjected to it so often that it's a reflex at this point
GenericSoda Waterworld is a pretty decent flick though.
How did you get subjected to it that often? Are you in the stuntshow?
@@stranger59 lol no
When I was younger my brother and I would watch movies when we visited our grandmother because she had a big shelf stuffed full of VHS tapes and he just
Kept bullying me into letting him pick Waterworld. I stopped watching movies with him entirely after awhile.
I personally love the idea of Zilla being more surmount to a subspecies/cousin species than an actual Godzilla. Like Big G is the T-Rex and Zilla is a Raptor. I wouldn't mind seeing Zilla in the Monsterverse at some point. Even if just as a mention of being a similar species that died out.
ehhh….
As someone with no awareness or investment in the storied history of actual Godzilla, '98 'Zilla is a perfectly functional monster movie with a nice creature design, better effects than Jurassic Park 3, and just the right amount of campy humor for a light popcorn-flick. One of my most-degraded VHS tapes back in the day.
This film seemed closer to the beast from 20,000 fathoms more than godzilla, which imo isnt a bad thing. Watching this 20 something years later and its great nostalgia.
Jeez Matt.....you really deserve more viewers for the amount of effort you put into your videos.
I loved watching Og Godzilla destroy Zilla, it made me as a fan of the series extremely happy 😁
it made me so happy I almost cried the first time I saw it
Same
It was a moment to be proud of.
You could make a long and detailed Wha Happun? on Alien 3.
There's a lot of info about how the studio screwed over David Fincher and about how many ideas and scripts they went through for that film.
@@trustno173 The lips are in the movie, it was actually proposed to Giger by Fincher. You can clearly (to an extent) see them when The Dragon makes his first appearance as a full grown runner and in that iconic "Ripley face to face with an Alien" scene.
I have to agree that the lips are a bit...much. Even the best artists are gonna drop a dud idea or two.
But yeah that was the least of Alien3's problems. There's been a lot of documentaries about it on youtube but I certainly wouldn't mind a whu happon about it too.
Rob Fried: "The Sony Executive Team that took over Godzilla was one of the worst cases of executive incompetence I have observed in my twenty year career."
Kathleen Kennedy's LucasArts: "Hold my brandy."
@@theangryholmesian4556 well it's more of the fact that she ran a beloved franchise into the ground
@@theangryholmesian4556 did I say anything about women or other races in the films?
@@theangryholmesian4556 temper tantrum? All I said was she ran it into the ground. I didn't even use an exclamation point or swear or even insult you.
*Lucasfilm
-once they hired JJ Abrams at the last second, things spiraled.
But they made a lot of money, so....success ?
@@theangryholmesian4556 That's the best job she will ever do.. Be a worthless *co* producer, while a vastly superior producer and director like Spielberg makes all the important decision.
Excellent work on this. I remember when this came and bombed. At the time I mostly only knew Godzilla through Mystery Science Theater 3000 and even I hear titled when I first saw his design in this.
I have a suggestion for a movie. While I honestly like the film, an episode on the 2009 Astro Boy movie from Imagi would be a good subject I think.
At least the person who designed this Godzilla had good intentions
Mortal Kombat: Annhilation next.
Best movie ever
“Hey, y’know this thing the Godzilla movies have been famous for? Yeah, fuck that shit.”
I used to work for Rob Fried (Pronounced like Freed by the way, not that it really matters). One time in a meeting a new hire wanted to kiss ass by saying "I loved the Matthew Broderick Godzilla by the way" and that meeting went from a "state of the business" meeting into a 2 hour rant on why this film represented everything wrong with Hollywood.
“i didn’t want anything to do with godzilla, i wanted to make my own”
the worst sentence i ever heard in my life
Do a Wha Happun on Jem and the Holograms!
Oh holy shit, YES.
I need this because I NEED to know "Wha Happun" to Jem and the Holograms. I was pretty excited when they announced that they were going to have a Jem movie only to be sorely disappointed by the trailers.
As much as the original Jem was 80s cheese, it was the best 80s cheese. It's like Cheez Whiz!
I like the design for Zilla.
But I dont think it's a good Godzilla at all, or movie.
If the movie was like a good Godzilla movie , and Zilla was bigger and a villain for Godzilla, I think it could have worked.
Actually Toho approved this design, and so I do. The only problem with it that it needs to stand in upright pose like the Japanese Godzilla.
Also If Zilla was much more aggresive and durable and had atomic breath like his son, he would've been a cool Godzilla.
@@AstroGodzilla23 This incarnation had a lot of neat abilities that could've made for a great Godzilla film. The problem was more that the crew didn't even seem to know how to use any of them effectively. They could've had the main Zilla be more of a pack leader with the babies posing a ground level threat and maybe some intermediate stages to back it up. Instead of Godzilla being just one entity, this version could've been a different force of nature like a big infestation sweeping through cities while the military tries to take it down and balance how much contamination gets spread from all the dead Zilla bodies while the main one continues to grow into a more traditional looking Godzilla for the final showdown.
They could have done a lot with this.
Having Godzilla as the villain is how things pretty much started out, so that aspect is alright. I don't mind him not standing upright either, as it just makes little sense for a giant creature that's proven to be capable of hand to hand combat. The stance of this Godzilla makes more sense, as it can't just be thrown on is back with a little push.
But well, why even show the offspring, if it doesn't have much relevance to the plot? And more importantly, who had that killing boner that told him Godzilla goes down with some missiles? Freaking thing is a nuclear bomb incarnate for fucks sake.
Speak for yourself. I think Zilla looks ugly.
@@BRAINFOXINFINITE so basically you wanted Cloverfield
"Toho has declared that any subsequent appearances of the 1998 character will be under the name "Zilla," because according to Shogo Tomiyama it "took the 'God' out of 'Godzilla.'""
Damn.
God the first Stan winston model looked great as an early concept too. So sad
The origin of Deviljho from Monster Hunter
The space hogging pickle from hell that can randomly show up in missions