Dragonball Evolution - What Happened?

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  • @MattMcMuscles
    @MattMcMuscles  4 роки тому +1177

    NOTE: The cheeky editor for this episode, Trey decided to take a light-hearted jab at Eyepatchwolf's similar goof from his DragonBall Z video where he mixed up Go Nagai and Toriyama. So no need to spam comments about it, thanks!

    • @hia5235
      @hia5235 4 роки тому +59

      Bro. It took 24 hours to download one of those DBZ AMVs off Limewire. Absolute Peak Internet. All downhill since then.

    • @LevitatingCups
      @LevitatingCups 4 роки тому +5

      @@hia5235 you mean dragonballz the unofficial one, and it was iMesh not limewire

    • @jonathan-6958
      @jonathan-6958 4 роки тому +2

      Too late, already did

    • @eugeneturner7520
      @eugeneturner7520 4 роки тому +21

      This movie didn't damage Dragonball's brand, it rather saved it, as this mammoth fuck-up of a movie gave us the Dragonball revival era we live in, today, which is all about fan service goodness with Battle of Gods, Resurrection F, and the Broly movie, along with an all new series in the form of Dragonball Super, and a slew of new games, especially the Xenoverse games, which finally let us create our own Dragonball characters - all thanks to this piece of shit Evolution movie seriously pissing off Toriyama.

    • @japroject1
      @japroject1 4 роки тому +11

      If I scream Netflix’s Death Note loud enough will Matt McMuscles hear me?

  • @g0ddish434
    @g0ddish434 4 роки тому +3019

    Imagine being so dedicated to the character to the fact that you read a shit load of manga to later find out that the character you're playing is nothing like the one in the manga

    • @CuppaKofe
      @CuppaKofe 4 роки тому +534

      I'm starting to realise why Justin Chatwin phoned in his performance so hard. Poor guy.

    • @TheArceusftw
      @TheArceusftw 4 роки тому +209

      And there's a reason why this version Goku is refered to with such names as "Geeko", "Noku", or "Kakanot"!

    • @plasticflower
      @plasticflower 4 роки тому +61

      Yes yes, I love those jobs where I prepare by reading manga and watching anime!

    • @entruh4520
      @entruh4520 4 роки тому +103

      @@TheArceusftw reminds me of how people call Dante from the devil may cry reeboot (which is widely hated) Donte

    • @bobafett4265
      @bobafett4265 4 роки тому +26

      @@Metaphizzle that's just as bad. 😨

  • @goldenboyadrokk1742
    @goldenboyadrokk1742 4 роки тому +774

    “Toriyama was also consulted. And by consulted, I mean ignored.” Got me literally laughing out loud. Like obnoxiously loud

    • @phillip9579
      @phillip9579 3 роки тому +40

      its even more hilarious at the fact that, that wasn’t even toriyama in the image in the first place

    • @coreywigent7693
      @coreywigent7693 3 роки тому +22

      Same thing happened with George Lucas with disney star wars

    • @cameronminor8690
      @cameronminor8690 3 роки тому +15

      Fox: Is this destroying your creation? Is this nothing like your original vision?
      Toriyama: Yes.
      Fox: Good!

  • @Geek3rs
    @Geek3rs 4 роки тому +2209

    James Marsters said at a convention "If you like Dragonball you're gonna hate this movie. If you don't know what Dragonball is you're gonna hate this movie."

    • @djhero0071
      @djhero0071 4 роки тому +96

      The best thing about this (that I’m surprised Matt didn’t mention at the end) is that James Marsters redeemed himself years later by dubbing Zamasu. That’s some dope shit.

    • @yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082
      @yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082 4 роки тому +15

      I have low faith on Hollywood during that time and now i still have it.

    • @omnimonramone8459
      @omnimonramone8459 4 роки тому +4

      My friends who knew nothing about dragonball but liked superhero flicks seemed to like it.

    • @PlahaKumar
      @PlahaKumar 4 роки тому +6

      In other words, this movie doesn't please anyone.

    • @tonyjackson4078
      @tonyjackson4078 4 роки тому +28

      I give Marsters credit for not even pretending any of this was a positive experience for crew or audience.

  • @TheGohanSkywalker
    @TheGohanSkywalker 4 роки тому +1469

    Another silver lining from Evolution: James Marsters getting his due by voicing Zamasu in DB Super.

    • @jaysonpressley8642
      @jaysonpressley8642 4 роки тому +186

      Shit, I didn't know that. I glad he got a chance to redeem himself.

    • @jamesheichel6137
      @jamesheichel6137 4 роки тому +126

      Holy shit and he does such an amazing job

    • @AlexRN
      @AlexRN 4 роки тому +61

      Good for him! I had no idea. I’m guessing he contacted the localizers and asked if he could join and not the other way around, yes?

    • @jamiemarsters
      @jamiemarsters 4 роки тому +86

      He's always been a huge Dragon Ball fan, & friends with Sean Schemmel & Chris Sabat for years. Pretty sure it's a mutual love-fest. But you can actually watch him go in to record it in James' parody web series, ViDiOTS (skip to about the 20-minute mark for that specifically, but the whole episode has some hilarious DBE refs): ua-cam.com/video/j1IBOa4plHQ/v-deo.html - Jamie

    • @tokeythebear7
      @tokeythebear7 4 роки тому +12

      I love him in Buffy and angel lol

  • @ratchetxtreme6591
    @ratchetxtreme6591 4 роки тому +1511

    I love how the film was just so horrendous and terrible it got Toriyama to continue the franchise just so Evolution wasn't the last thing you saw from the series.

    • @erichfiedler1481
      @erichfiedler1481 4 роки тому +246

      Yeah, without this piece of shit, we wouldn't have Beerus, Whis, Golden Freeza, the other universes, Goku Black, Zamasu (who was voiced James Marsden no less), and the canon Broly with a more believable backstory

    • @tomasfong40
      @tomasfong40 4 роки тому +96

      @@erichfiedler1481 canon broly is great

    • @thepixelman4776
      @thepixelman4776 4 роки тому +43

      @@erichfiedler1481 so I guess it was worth it.

    • @erichfiedler1481
      @erichfiedler1481 4 роки тому +25

      @@thepixelman4776 for better or worse

    • @RyanPuffs
      @RyanPuffs 4 роки тому +44

      So basically Evolution ended up being a good thing in the long run

  • @shadow759
    @shadow759 4 роки тому +1175

    Wow the thing I didn't know Justin Chatwin did all that research. No wonder in the movie he seemed either confused or didn't care half the time.

    • @pvshka
      @pvshka 4 роки тому +183

      Pretty sure he was subtly mocking the shit they handed him to work with throughout the movie.

    • @Deltanwachukwu
      @Deltanwachukwu 3 роки тому +95

      To be honest this is all fox fault the boy that acted goku actually worked hard and did his research it's not his fault it was fox.

    • @radiokunio3738
      @radiokunio3738 3 роки тому +109

      Yeah it's kinda sad when your actors gave more attention to the source, then the person who actually writes the film.

    • @Lucaz99
      @Lucaz99 3 роки тому +92

      @@radiokunio3738 my god, that’s so on point. He is just an actor, he didn’t need to go the extra mile, everything he read should be somewhat represented in the script. However, reading the source material probably only made it more confusing and painful for him.

    • @jabarithegoldenlucario8841
      @jabarithegoldenlucario8841 3 роки тому +14

      Yeah. They REALLY didn’t stick to the source material.
      Also, love your animations.

  • @dtbzero5909
    @dtbzero5909 4 роки тому +811

    UA-cam just showed an ad for the Monster hunter movie in this... I guess that’s a bit of foreshadowing huh?

    • @maxpops8427
      @maxpops8427 4 роки тому +23

      Matt should do a Wha Happun on that

    • @YuriNoel7
      @YuriNoel7 4 роки тому +96

      Even worse it’s being made by the same dude who made the live action Resident Evil movies
      And of course the main star of his movie is his wife....I swear why does Capcom let him butcher their franchises?

    • @GatorMilk
      @GatorMilk 4 роки тому +10

      Yoitube vanced has no afs

    • @MaxMax-qg7gw
      @MaxMax-qg7gw 4 роки тому +4

      O O F

    • @TheArceusftw
      @TheArceusftw 4 роки тому +23

      @@YuriNoel7 OH GOD LORD! Do not remind me of the Alice saga!!

  • @GenerationWest
    @GenerationWest 4 роки тому +908

    Man, you can tell that people TRIED to make something with this, James Marsters, God bless him tried. Stephen Chow got cheated, and was people were cheated by his name usage too. The knowledge that not only did this burn the director, but so many others too, but the only one's who left unscathed were Jamie Chung, Emmy Rossum, Justin Chatwin, James Marsters and Chow Yun Fat, because they still get major work.

    • @TJ1380
      @TJ1380 4 роки тому +67

      I actually really liked Chow Yun Fat in this movie, if only because he looked like he was having fun and was trying to play a live-action anime character. His performance was goofy, but it was the kind of goofy that would've worked in a more faithful Dragon Ball movie.
      As for James Marsters, he looked like he was really trying to make Piccolo an interesting character, but he didn't have the screen time to pull it off. I really got the feeling that his best stuff was cut for time. I feel bad for him, too. He was clearly a huge fan of the source material and seem really excited at the prospect of being in this movie.

    • @InTheEnd75
      @InTheEnd75 4 роки тому +1

      Her last name is fat?

    • @BullseyeRey
      @BullseyeRey 4 роки тому +20

      At least Masters got to play Zamasu later.

    • @misterbadguy7325
      @misterbadguy7325 4 роки тому +18

      I mean, let's be real, a Dragonball adaptation is not an easy thing to do. It's a story that was published over the course of well over a decade, it has a massive amount of lore and continuity, and the most famous and iconic part of the franchise doesn't kick off until relatively late.

    • @InTheEnd75
      @InTheEnd75 4 роки тому +2

      @@misterbadguy7325 eh I believe the continuity isn’t that great at times lol

  • @QuartzIsAnOxide
    @QuartzIsAnOxide 4 роки тому +839

    Ah yes, the poster child for "We must make fantasy stuff more realistic because that's mature and mature equals good" syndrome.

    • @KaiserMattTygore927
      @KaiserMattTygore927 4 роки тому +84

      I can't wait until our species can get over that shit.

    • @MatanVil
      @MatanVil 4 роки тому +55

      Thank god that we live in a post-Guardians of the Galaxy world so this tings are less likely to happen.
      Why they are making Monster Hunter not fun? Why Netflix are wanting to do this despite claiming they are better? Why they made Fant4stic dark? The general audience can take all of this "stupid shit"
      The Dark Knight trilogy ruined geek and pop culture (by god the The Batman is going to suck so hard), I'm tankful for people like Taika Waititi and James Gunn.

    • @bobafett4265
      @bobafett4265 4 роки тому +3

      @@KaiserMattTygore927 yep.

    • @xemnahort2
      @xemnahort2 4 роки тому +7

      Has that ever actually worked a single time

    • @BloodyAltima
      @BloodyAltima 4 роки тому +6

      @@MakoShiruba And even then I'd argue that the Dark Knight (the only movie in that trilogy that people actually care about) is vastly overrated by virtue of the standards having been so very low when it came out. Even discounting specific plot issues like, "its fine that Bats did a surveillance state! He broke it immediately after he was done!" on a structural level its third act is a trainwreck.

  • @lorenzocampici7885
    @lorenzocampici7885 4 роки тому +436

    I love how the db revival happened completely out of spite

    • @wyattcampbell2077
      @wyattcampbell2077 3 роки тому +93

      This movie: *Happens*
      Toriyama: F*ck you there's a cat god now

    • @kirbyofthestarsfan
      @kirbyofthestarsfan 3 роки тому +24

      There is no stronger force in the universe than spite

    • @snailthelostcow63
      @snailthelostcow63 2 роки тому +6

      You don't know how many series got revived or turned masterpiece out of spite

  • @rohankishibeandpinkdarkboy8853
    @rohankishibeandpinkdarkboy8853 4 роки тому +783

    It really sucks that Stephen Chow got cheated out of this. The dude loves Dragon Ball, and was a great choice for this. Hell, he's made a Journey to the West movie years after this movie came out! And just look at how his fight scenes go, look up Sing vs. The Axe Gang from Kung Fu Hustle, or just look up most of the big fights in that movie.
    It was this perfect blend of cartoony martial arts that felt so anime. He didn't shy away from making the fights over the top.

    • @MauZangetsu
      @MauZangetsu 4 роки тому +16

      *S O M U C H T H I S*

    • @MauZangetsu
      @MauZangetsu 4 роки тому +48

      @@mokaza40 I agree 100%. People use to forget Dragon Ball is about adventure and comedy, not everything is about bloody fights

    • @ryno4ever433
      @ryno4ever433 4 роки тому +21

      Kung Fu Hustle was such a good movie

    • @plasticflower
      @plasticflower 4 роки тому +21

      But even with the most talented writer and director and the biggest budget, I just can't imagine how a live-action Dragon Ball movie could work without pissing off a lot of fans. It's just way too stylized.

    • @infernaldisdain8051
      @infernaldisdain8051 4 роки тому +9

      @@MauZangetsu I would say half of Dragon Ball's popularity came from the fights, which is why they were focused on in the later parts so heavily and Z became mostly fights. Such a big part of the manga ended up being a balance between fights comedy and the serious. I won't say adventure because that's an underlying part of the whole story. Heck Z is more adventurous in many ways than Dragon Ball, but people tend to dismiss that because it's edgier.

  • @ironyautja
    @ironyautja 8 місяців тому +36

    watching this today on the passing of Akira. RIP

  • @SigmaSyndicate
    @SigmaSyndicate 4 роки тому +503

    How many times on Wha Happen has someone ACTUALLY apologized for making something shit? Massive respect to Ben Ramsey.

    • @nephjd88
      @nephjd88 4 роки тому +75

      Which makes me sad that he got so much hate mail. And let's be honest, with stuff that has huge fanbases, hate mail = death threats. Like, it's just a movie. Calm down, people.

    • @ForrestFox626
      @ForrestFox626 4 роки тому +76

      @Shisuke Nakamura
      His hands were tied the second Fox slashed the budget and demanded rewrites

    • @brianvaira486
      @brianvaira486 4 роки тому +45

      @@Wischmob_vE screen writers have very little power, producers, directors have a lot more of a say over what actually shows up on the screen. I’m not saying that he was blameless, but I would put more of the blame on the studio and the director if we’re being honest here

    • @jaywhangmakes
      @jaywhangmakes 3 роки тому +19

      @@Wischmob_vE He didn't ignore the source material. In fact, he did his research and some of the early drafts are rather stay true to the original. It's just he got so many studio notes what needs to change to make it commercially viable.

    • @regularstan6212
      @regularstan6212 3 роки тому +12

      @@Wischmob_vE his apology is still more than most hollywood.

  • @Marcedonia
    @Marcedonia 4 роки тому +144

    You know your film is good when it’s filmed in a jeans factory.

    • @omnimonramone8459
      @omnimonramone8459 4 роки тому +24

      They could've used some leftover jeans to make an Android 18 outfit.

    • @MiXVoy
      @MiXVoy 2 роки тому +1

      Just like the 1993 disaster-piece, that was filmed in a cement factory.

  • @KaiserMattTygore927
    @KaiserMattTygore927 4 роки тому +407

    The irony that James Marsters would become an entirely different Green man with a black suit in a controversial yet still FAR SUPERIOR dragonball related story almost a decade later.

    • @SmrtPhonRtistCF
      @SmrtPhonRtistCF 4 роки тому +33

      Ironically enough, he was Brainiac\Brainic 5 in smallville.....though without the green look.

    • @joshuachurchill2858
      @joshuachurchill2858 4 роки тому +19

      His performance was the best part of that arc too (obviously only if you watch the dub)

    • @caldw615
      @caldw615 4 роки тому +28

      If Evolution hadn't pissed off Toriyama so much then we wouldn't have had him revive the series with Super. Zamasu wouldn't have existed without this movie. If nothing else that's the one good thing about this existing.

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 4 роки тому +8

      i wouldnt call the zamasu arc controversial it was the undoubtly the best part of DBS along side goku v hit vegeta v toppo and goku and frieza v jiren

    • @baylaust
      @baylaust 3 роки тому +13

      @@wilmagregg3131 I have a soft spot for the Goku Black Arc as well (I love that the official name is "The Future Trunks Saga" and the fanbase has made sure to use every name BUT that one when referring to it), but it does have some things holding it back from being truly great. Mainly the pacing (they should have gone back to the future TWICE at the absolute most) and the ending being... well, awful, there's no other way to put it.
      The Goku Black Arc is certainly the most serious arc in Super and is probably the closest it gets to matching DBZ's tone, and it introduced Goku Black, a villain who ended up being so much better and more memorable than he had any right to be. But I think the Tournament of Power was overall the best Super arc... as long as you're watching it in one big batch instead of waiting a week for every episode.

  • @F.Hakeem89
    @F.Hakeem89 4 роки тому +317

    When Man of Steel is the Best live-action DBZ adaptation.

    • @CODINE80
      @CODINE80 3 роки тому +32

      Shit i was thinking the DBZ fights all the time during the Smallvile/Metropolis fights. I was like, dude this is how it could look on screen. Before Man Of Steel, the best DBZ live fight i could remember was the final fight in Matrix Revolution. Imagine during these fights with Superman, if you could see a Ki blast attack from someone and there you are....

    • @MarioLopez-ri4tg
      @MarioLopez-ri4tg 3 роки тому +5

      I was also thinking this and told a college buddy. I honestly expected a dragon ball movie after man of steel

    • @bificommander7472
      @bificommander7472 3 роки тому +5

      Yep, that is what I was thinking when I watched Man of Steel... And the third Matrix movie too, but that one didn't do it well. That style of combat wasn't very superman-y but it looked just like DBZ. Should have given the director seat to Zack Snyder after all.

    • @struggler6864
      @struggler6864 3 роки тому +6

      In terms of battle scope?
      Yeah, maybe.
      In terms of tone???
      Comparing something as fun and quirky as Dragon Ball with something as grim, gritty, depressing and edgy like the Snyderverse is like comparing day and night.
      Honestly. I doubt Dragon Ball due to Toriyama's more comedic nature would ever get a proper live action adaptation in either west or east.

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers 3 роки тому +7

      “Where’d you learn to fight, Kakarot? In a barn?”

  • @ligtningdog6399
    @ligtningdog6399 4 роки тому +215

    TL;DR, the budget was almost non-existent, so they had to cut every corner until there were nothing left but the names of characters.

    • @john18563
      @john18563 4 роки тому +27

      even if budget was an issue, there is no reason to make goku a high school pervert.

    • @denniswilliams6519
      @denniswilliams6519 4 роки тому +15

      @@firmanchristiansianturi4794 Goku isn't a pervert. He doesn't even get the concept of female vs. male genitals in his introduction and thought marriage was something you ate.
      Oolong, Roshi? Perverts without question but there is a distinction between them and Goku.

    • @jdredalert
      @jdredalert 4 роки тому +10

      Well, they could have taken another route. i dunno, make a movie about the world martial arts tournament, have Master Shen, Tien, Chiaotzu and Mercenary Tao to be the antagonists, mix events of the first two tournaments if they really need a great ape going apeshit scene and keep the power level of the characters overall lower to be more of affordable with the initial budget - meaning, more martial arts! Just like the original DB series was. For me, the script of DBE is the most unforgivable part of it.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 4 роки тому +4

      @@firmanchristiansianturi4794 Goku in the original Dragon Ball is the most innocent boy you can know. He doesn't know what is a male and a female, doesn't know the value of money, is unable to use a lift, though marriage is some kind of food, was unable to discover that Roshi is a pervert and was victim of almost every trap if he considers you a friend.

    • @ligtningdog6399
      @ligtningdog6399 4 роки тому +3

      @@jdredalert Let's be honest, this was a no-win situation. Well your idea would of made a lot more sense, the fact of the matter is that most fans only care about DBZ, and probably would of hated the film just as much if it focused on classic DB.

  • @Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r
    @Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r 4 роки тому +405

    Fans: How much stuff are you gonna screw up from the anime?
    DBE: Yes

  • @wolfmantheimpaler
    @wolfmantheimpaler 4 роки тому +97

    I want to live in the universe where George Lucas made this movie, I don't care if it still sucks, I want to see Jar Jar Pilaf and "I don't like sand" Goku

  • @CaptainL95
    @CaptainL95 4 роки тому +88

    And one final point that was sadly missed over: James Marsters, having made a mark as a relative bright spot in a terrible Dragon Ball movie, got his chance to return to the role of villain, as he was chosen to voice Zamasu in the English dub of Dragon Ball Super.

  • @kryptonavenger2024
    @kryptonavenger2024 4 роки тому +53

    Wow, Zero's "What am I fighting FOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooor!" goes perfect with 14:11. Well done there.

  • @fromvault801
    @fromvault801 4 роки тому +120

    Spiderman Turn off the Dark will be the perfect episode

  • @God_Is_An_Atheist
    @God_Is_An_Atheist 4 роки тому +97

    A Lucas cut of Dragonball?
    "Did you ever hear the tragedy of Yamcha the fool? He could make everyone look like an important and strong character, but in the end he couldn't stay important himself."

  • @myopicmanatee6432
    @myopicmanatee6432 4 роки тому +339

    "The biggest insult to Japanese culture since Hiroshima." ---- Honest Trailer of Dragonball Evolution

    • @cboelcke694
      @cboelcke694 4 роки тому +23

      Idk man Godzilla 1998 was pretty fucking bad.

    • @tydyman2003
      @tydyman2003 4 роки тому +27

      @@cboelcke694 true but Godzilla the animated series put God back in it's name, and its a sequel to the movie

    • @myopicmanatee6432
      @myopicmanatee6432 4 роки тому +1

      @@Feasco It's one of the opening lines.

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 4 роки тому +6

      @@cboelcke694 At leat the japanese had the last laugh by killing him in one of their moves

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 4 роки тому +1

      @@JohnDoe-wq5eu Indeed

  • @Hedoro_Latoureux
    @Hedoro_Latoureux 3 роки тому +42

    I still remember seeing the trailer for this steaming pile and being so convinced it was going to be an abject failure I wrote an entire essay venting about it as part of my college Film Studies course, and against all odds actually getting a good grade for it.

  • @S-Fan2006
    @S-Fan2006 4 роки тому +173

    I think that maybe once enough information has come out, you could do “Mulan (2020) - What Happened?”.

    • @entruh4520
      @entruh4520 4 роки тому +10

      @SNES Nes i third this

    • @helloill672
      @helloill672 4 роки тому +10

      I fourth this

    • @melonboi927
      @melonboi927 4 роки тому +15

      China

    • @michaelbandada9887
      @michaelbandada9887 4 роки тому +5

      Despite the name value of Jet Li, Gong Li and Donnie Yen, the live action Mulan film flopped. Stick with the classic animated film, folks

    • @S-Fan2006
      @S-Fan2006 4 роки тому +2

      @@KeyBladeMaster-Dan that’s why I want a “Wha Happun?” on Mulan (2020).

  • @maugos
    @maugos 4 роки тому +41

    Imagine doing a ton of research for a part only to find out the movie you're gonna be in is nothing like all the information you just absorbed.

  • @nathanieltomlinson1148
    @nathanieltomlinson1148 4 роки тому +47

    Fist of the North Star Live Action film... the hundred rending fist scene alone is worth an entire episode!
    Love your videos man. Great stuff.

    • @whosaidthat84
      @whosaidthat84 3 роки тому +7

      I was a huge fan of the 86 anime film so in the mid 90s we saw Fist of The North Star listed in the TV guide. Lo and behold it wasn't the anime, but it was a live action movie! We got soooooooo hyped at that moment. 90 minutes later, we were all like "what the hell was that crap?!?!"

  • @Homerstar
    @Homerstar 4 роки тому +130

    I didn’t know that Chatwin did all that research for the role. I have to give him respect for that. At least he got to redeem himself in Doctor Who.

    • @mrcritical6751
      @mrcritical6751 Рік тому +3

      Agreed, kinda hope they give his DW character some Big Finish audios at some point

  • @swolf712
    @swolf712 4 роки тому +98

    Calling the original script "More Faithful" is a bit of a stretch, given it was still set in modern times and featured the Ox-King as the leader of a biker gang, for starters. lol

    • @vandad13
      @vandad13 4 роки тому +25

      I think you could still make the modern day high school setting work by including krillian and making a contrasting fish out of water story have krill be a monk wanting to see the outside world and indulge in its commodities (mainly girls) as he tries to fit in and contrast that with goku who at the request of his grandpa travels to this modern world to see what’s out thier while unlike krill not really caring about fitting in and just taking things in his own way would that be good? Ehh idk but it would certainly have been better than just jamming goku into the bog standard teen super hero hole

    • @leonreborn1308
      @leonreborn1308 4 роки тому +9

      Dragon Ball is set in modern times, actually more "modern" than our time, this part isn't really a problem

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 4 роки тому

      ok that actually makes sense with his outfit though and in a modern world it would give oxking a reason to be a great fighter for a human

    • @ryanholter6820
      @ryanholter6820 3 роки тому

      Yeah it's one hell of a weird read. Oolong is introduced and then killed because villain, Pilaf's gang are also Nameks, the backstory is a children's card game or something? What we would have gotten woulda been a bit different, but it wouldn't have been "more faithful" and I don't even know if it would have been better!

    • @wilmagregg3131
      @wilmagregg3131 3 роки тому +1

      @@ryanholter6820 oh i think thats refering to dragon ball heros a side series of games and clips and manga about humans using machines to put themselves into the dragon ball universe with custom made characters but since its a gacha game they show up as digital "Cards" its pretyy decent story wise but certainly is not the first movie id make about dragon ball

  • @GamerCrusader8
    @GamerCrusader8 4 роки тому +13

    I asked James Marsters to sign my copy of the film at a convention which also happened to be the weekend of the film's anniversary (as well as my birthday weekend). His composure fell apart and he was super chill about it. Clearly gave him a good laugh and mentioned how the cast didn't know how badly the budget had been slashed until they were all down in mexico about to start shooting. Definitely one of my favorite autographs.

  • @U.F.O
    @U.F.O 4 роки тому +35

    James Marsters is actually now the voice actor for Zamasu, so I guess he'll have a legacy playing green DB villains.

  • @kat_lynx
    @kat_lynx 4 роки тому +30

    Lemme tell ya a good one, Matt if you happen to read this: 20th Century Fox's mexican branch flat out lied to Mexican media reporting on the movie saying Durango was chosen because the wilderness there has an uncanny ressemblance to the wilderness areas in DragonBall Z where Goku and company fought Vegeta and Nappa, then the Androids, and so (which admitedly does). It inspired genuine confidence from like half of the Mexican DB fandom, falling into the "oh they do care about us! They know DB is insanely popular here! The movie might NOT be a dumpster fire!" trap.
    It even led to ha successful fan movement of having the DB voice actors for adult Goku and Piccolo to voice the Evolution version of Goku and Piccolo in Evolution's LatAm Spanish dub.

    • @musicinmymind623
      @musicinmymind623 Рік тому +3

      I’m reading this comment two years late but this is so interesting, awful that they gave Mexican fans false hope but the movement working and the fans all coming together is so cool!

    • @kat_lynx
      @kat_lynx Рік тому +1

      @@musicinmymind623 Aye, but it was still kind of "I shouldn't be surprised that's the real reason" for me to hear the actual reasoning. What a horrible travesty of a movie Evolution was lol.

  • @ebcm95____
    @ebcm95____ 4 роки тому +269

    Painful to see but at least we got another show out of it.

    • @BigEOT3
      @BigEOT3 4 роки тому +2

      And angry OG DragonBall fanboys out of it. Don’t forget the greatest Christmas gift of all, Vic Migyoggy’s underage fan club defending him against those “dastardly villains” who ruined his career.*
      *Vic was a creep who ruined his own career, and Quinton Flynn is a creep too.

    • @captainbarbossa289
      @captainbarbossa289 4 роки тому +2

      One that James Marsters got another chance to be a Dragon Ball villain in!

    • @freyja4304
      @freyja4304 4 роки тому +7

      @@alverdeo965 Super had some cool moments, but a lot of shitty ones too

    • @deathbringer9893
      @deathbringer9893 4 роки тому +5

      @@alverdeo965my guy calm down its everyone to enjoy something and hate something no need to insult people

    • @freyja4304
      @freyja4304 4 роки тому +3

      @@alverdeo965 Oh no I agree. It amplifies what was bad about Z and was agonizing to watch most of the time with all the antagonists (except Beerus) and asspulls. The Broly movie was lit tho

  • @dallased78
    @dallased78 3 роки тому +48

    I have a ton more respect now for Justin Chatwin. I loved him in Shameless and other series, he's a good actor. To know he spent all that time trying to get Goku right to give fans what they want....but that all his work was just shat on by the writer and director....makes me look at him now with admiration.

    • @virgogaming6488
      @virgogaming6488 Рік тому

      I think he did a decent job playing the movie's version of Goku, he has an arc and becomes more Goku-like as the movie goes on.

  • @MegaDoogles
    @MegaDoogles 4 роки тому +120

    When are we getting a Wha Happun on Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun Li?

    • @SmrtPhonRtistCF
      @SmrtPhonRtistCF 4 роки тому +28

      And delve even further with the Kof movie and Tekken.

    • @repulser93
      @repulser93 4 роки тому +4

      The one bad movie I’ve seen that makes it so I’m more inclined to like divisive bad movies.

    • @Rudoku1
      @Rudoku1 4 роки тому +4

      Balrog punched someone so hard they got cancer. That was perfect.

    • @b.parker1740
      @b.parker1740 4 роки тому +2

      @@SmrtPhonRtistCF The furthest down that rabbit hole definitely has to be the Dead or Alive movie that exists for some reason.
      Also, the Fist of the North Star and Catwoman movies should totally be given their own What Happened episodes, too.

  • @MysteryFaceX
    @MysteryFaceX 4 роки тому +72

    Almost any Japanese live-action adaptation of an anime could qualify for What Happened.

  • @KentaroMiyamoto21
    @KentaroMiyamoto21 4 роки тому +77

    And to think, I once tried defending this tire fire. And before anyone says anything, I was a kid. Influenced by articles from Shonen Jump, and in denial. As an adult, I know better now.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 4 роки тому +5

      Shonen Jump said something _nice_ about the blasphemy of their God, the flagship franchise of SJ and all shonen?

    • @KentaroMiyamoto21
      @KentaroMiyamoto21 4 роки тому +11

      @@autobotstarscream765 No. They just said it was a thing.

  • @dirkdiggler2218
    @dirkdiggler2218 4 роки тому +24

    I remember going into theaters to see this with my buddy thinking it looked absolutely awful, and with those expectations, it went from being an incredibly insulting, cynical piece of Hollywood trash, to comedy of the year. Great stuff. Plus we got the new movies and DB Super. Yay!

  • @philricciotti1724
    @philricciotti1724 4 роки тому +16

    One of the things I always found kinda funny is that a couple years after this movie came out, Emmy Rossum and Justin Chatwin would go on to star in the American version of Shameless, playing characters who were romantically involved. So in a few scenes it's almost as if Goku and Bulma were...y'know...

  • @TheDeadrabbi7
    @TheDeadrabbi7 4 роки тому +72

    I remember this movie being recorded in my homeland: Durango, México. I was pretty hyped about it when I was a kid.
    There´s even a restaurant outside of the city in which the actors went to eat in there and there is some stuff autographed by the actors of this movie, and also there are a lot of pictures of them.

  • @donovanchilton5817
    @donovanchilton5817 4 роки тому +115

    At the end of the day we can thank this POS for inspiring Toriyama to continue the series.

    • @ligtningdog6399
      @ligtningdog6399 4 роки тому +24

      The same as how DmC led to the creation of DMC5.

    • @yareyarejose5080
      @yareyarejose5080 4 роки тому +7

      and for getting him to actually care about dragonball

    • @kratal122
      @kratal122 4 роки тому

      Agreed. Yeah, DBS has problems, but it does feel like some problems from Z were being addressed, for better or worse.

    • @yareyarejose5080
      @yareyarejose5080 4 роки тому +5

      @@alverdeo965 I mean yeah? If you look at old interviews with toriyama before super, dragonball was nothing more than a paycheck for him- he literally wrote it all by the seat of his pants by a certain point, most famously the cell saga. Androids 19 and 20 were gonna be the main villains, the editor was unimpressed, then 17 and 18, again the editor was unimpressed, then Cell, then Cell in his 2nd form, but the editor thought he was too ugly so toriyama quickly made perfect cell.

    • @turbobrent9435
      @turbobrent9435 4 роки тому

      @@alverdeo965 LOL,YEAH -_-

  • @DragonBallZack19
    @DragonBallZack19 4 роки тому +24

    James Marsters got his redemption at least by doing a great job playing Zamasu in the Funi Dub for Dragon Ball Super!

  • @songohan3321
    @songohan3321 4 роки тому +31

    I must whole heartedly thank you for doing this review.

  • @GanondorfKingofEvil
    @GanondorfKingofEvil 3 роки тому +21

    It's interesting, though unsurprising, to note that the fault looks to be heavily on the studio executives. They recognized Dragonball's world-wide popularity, but still wanted to spend as little as they could get away with.
    Of course it also didn't help they decided to do the one story arc that, while exciting, would probably require the most special effects usage over other DB arcs. An arc that involves a large cast due to how late in DB it came. A cast that had, not including Piccolo and his children, already been introduced before. There was simply too much to be explained in an hour and half.
    They doomed themselves between the money-grubbing studio and picking a bad arc to start an adaptation with.

    • @virgogaming6488
      @virgogaming6488 Рік тому +1

      They wanted to bridge into Z and using Piccolo makes sense since he was the big bad of DB before Z.

  • @juanignaciogonzalezcarrasc3754
    @juanignaciogonzalezcarrasc3754 4 роки тому +92

    7:01 I love how whenever people wanna talk about akira toriyama they always bust out a go nagai picture with a dragon ball background

    • @arlobo1
      @arlobo1 4 роки тому +2

      that's what I thought too

    • @hngdman
      @hngdman 4 роки тому +8

      Wait, that's Go Nagai? I expected him to have massive sideburns and I'm very disappointed.

    • @varspartoidac
      @varspartoidac 4 роки тому +5

      Every single video about DB:E shows a picture of Go Nagai dubbed as Akira Toriyama. LOL

    • @Calvin_Coolage
      @Calvin_Coolage 4 роки тому +13

      Apparently the editor for this video threw that in as a little jab towards SuperEyePatchWolf'a video where he made a similar mistake

    • @juanignaciogonzalezcarrasc3754
      @juanignaciogonzalezcarrasc3754 4 роки тому +2

      @@Calvin_Coolage Oh i didn't know that, that's a very cool node

  • @haydenfisher1387
    @haydenfisher1387 3 роки тому +23

    I find it funny that Goku and Bulma’s actors were also a toxic couple on Shameless. Small world in show business lol

    • @lerdog
      @lerdog 3 роки тому +5

      Now I'm imagining a Showtime producer watching Dragonball Evolution and thinking THAT'S IT, WE FOUND OUR LEADING COUPLE

  • @MitchQuadrupleTree
    @MitchQuadrupleTree 4 роки тому +63

    You could say that DB: Evolution...spirit bombed at the box office.

  • @FunZies.
    @FunZies. 4 роки тому +12

    *This... WAS RELEASED IN CINEMAS?!*
    Fun Fact: You can also thank James Masters for Piccolo being green in this film; the director was so intent on getting everything wrong that Piccolo's skin colour is actually grey, but made green in post. Yeah.

  • @WolfmanArt
    @WolfmanArt 4 роки тому +33

    *sigh* What were they thinking....
    Can you do The Last Airbender?

  • @KoolKeithProductions
    @KoolKeithProductions 4 роки тому +6

    *Has anyone seen the 2006 Jet Li movie Fearless?* It's about a legendary fighter taking on the world's best fighters in a tournament, while flashbacks show what led up to him participating in it. I always felt THAT would be the best way to do a DB movie. Start with Goku already at the World Martials Arts Tournament fighting his way to the finals, while showing us flashbacks in-between of him training with Krillen & Roshi and meeting Bulma and Chi Chi.

  • @silentbb8679
    @silentbb8679 4 роки тому +36

    i remember "gt final bout" being almost something of legend back when i was young. when i finally got to play it.. it sucked

    • @MegaAmir46
      @MegaAmir46 4 роки тому +1

      Lmaoo begged my mom for that after I had Ultimate Battle 22😭 good times

  • @MathieuLeblanc1991
    @MathieuLeblanc1991 4 роки тому +16

    20th Century Fox had a piece of every DBZ film since Evolution to this day since Funimation had to arrange a deal with them to even bring Battle of the Gods to the US , yes Disney owns the theatrical rights for the DBZ movies made after 2009.

    • @MathieuLeblanc1991
      @MathieuLeblanc1991 3 роки тому

      @@Shantae1188 Yeah, 20th Century Fox has been releasing the DBZ movies made after Evolution in Japan and internationally. I think it’s part of the deal but since Disney bought 20th Century Fox, they now have those rights so Disney gets a small chunk of revenue from every Dragon Ball related animated movie

  • @TeruteruBozusama
    @TeruteruBozusama 4 роки тому +17

    Can you please make an episode on Action 52, the story is so insane and I have heard different parts from different people so I hope for a video with it all in one place, and yor quips will be the cherry on top!

  • @jesusgomez938
    @jesusgomez938 8 місяців тому +5

    Fun fact: Justin Chatwin, the actor who played as goku, apologized to akira toriyama at his funeral.

  • @Bacchus325
    @Bacchus325 4 роки тому +28

    I'll never forget when I spent $5 to rent this on demand at my grandma's house. Worst $5 I ever spent.

    • @1beatcher
      @1beatcher 4 роки тому +2

      I bought this for $5 on DVD at a Walmart.

  • @MathMasterism
    @MathMasterism 3 роки тому +7

    Thank you for making this. I’m glad to hear the creative team at least had some interest in keeping things faithful to source. It’s a shame this movie found itself being produced by the wrong studio at the wrong time.

  • @cellgames808
    @cellgames808 4 роки тому +12

    Damn, at least the writer came to and apologized. Takes a lot of courage to swollow that pill.

  • @Thelowestofthelowtiers
    @Thelowestofthelowtiers 4 роки тому +18

    This was one of my first introductions to Dragon Ball and I regret it...

  • @zebare726
    @zebare726 4 роки тому +7

    I rememeber watching this movie on
    premiere day.
    The Cinema owner was an huge DBZ fan so he had some DBZ event 30m before the screening,
    However only 3 people did show up.

  • @ClemPal
    @ClemPal 4 роки тому +24

    Would love to see a Plumber's Don't Wear Ties - What Happened. O_O

    • @jorts_master69
      @jorts_master69 3 роки тому +3

      I wanna know what was being smoked during the production of that thinly-veiled porno of a video game.....and where I can get some

  • @emanuelepolloni4002
    @emanuelepolloni4002 4 роки тому +13

    I saw this movie in cinemas back when it came out. It was an umpleasant experience and it killed my interest in the franchise until I discovered DragonBall Z Abridged.

  • @argos_5213
    @argos_5213 4 роки тому +8

    I watched it when i was 12 years old i think and i was at the cinema like: "why master roshi is not bald? Why bulma's hair is not cyan, where is the turtle, WHERE IS KRILLIN"

  • @ethanbryant1997
    @ethanbryant1997 4 роки тому +25

    Oooh. Been wondering when you'd cover this.

  • @YophiSmith
    @YophiSmith 3 роки тому +5

    I could see what they were TRYING to do with the making Bulma a tech genius gunner aka Lucca from Chrono Trigger (really loved Bulma as a gunner who didn’t pee herself asking for Goku’s help all day) and Goku...who was a discount Crono from Chrono Trigger. They modernized even Master Roshi a bit by making his apartment secluded. I thought the idea was great but...the execution just failed everywhere. You could tell the actors didn’t even want to be in it and so neither did we.

  • @juanjoseaguayo2241
    @juanjoseaguayo2241 4 роки тому +13

    You know, I would be very interested in an episode about Sonic chronicles: The dark brotherhood. I always wondered how Mass Effect era Bioware did such a game.

    • @Flinch9000
      @Flinch9000 Місяць тому

      It also was the catalyst to what would be the future of the Archie run.

  • @theEnd612
    @theEnd612 4 роки тому +6

    It’s still pretty cool how James Marsters got to eventually come back to Dragon Ball as Zamasu.

  • @OmarNova
    @OmarNova 4 роки тому +9

    A Wha Happun on the Yakuza movie is a for sure, dude.

  • @TheEffectOfMass
    @TheEffectOfMass 3 роки тому +5

    I love the end. Thank you Dragon Ball Evolution for making Toriyama go Super Saiyan and bring about the renaissance of Dragon Ball.

  • @OnDavidsBrain
    @OnDavidsBrain 4 роки тому +9

    16:35 Majima what did they do to you?!

  • @Nerbit13098
    @Nerbit13098 3 роки тому +1

    James Marsters actually is actually still involved in Dragonball, he is the English voice for Zamasu

  • @hadessssoul
    @hadessssoul 4 роки тому +14

    Why did you show Go Nagai at 07:03?
    He's the creator of Mazinger and Devilman, not Dragon Ball

  • @fabiopl
    @fabiopl 3 роки тому +7

    Hi Matt,
    Thank you for this video. Awesome, informative and funny content as always.
    I would be so happy to see an episode of Wha Happun on the development of either Xenogears or the Xenosaga trilogy.

  • @LOLWUTHERING
    @LOLWUTHERING 4 роки тому +7

    Wait, Matt, actually, "Battle Royale 2" could be an interesting one

  • @E_blanknamehere
    @E_blanknamehere 4 роки тому +8

    Best thing to come out of this movie
    "I did the best I could, but at the end of the day, I 'dropped the dragon ball"

  • @SomeDumbKid1
    @SomeDumbKid1 4 роки тому +61

    I'm pissed we didn't get the George Lucas version. Not because it would have been any good, but because it would've been the most hilarious shitshow the world has ever seen. The Room and Birdemic would be blown away by George's insanity.

    • @Tareltonlives
      @Tareltonlives 4 роки тому +4

      Followed by an absolutely wretched JJ Abrams remake

  • @KitRobin
    @KitRobin 4 роки тому +6

    Only thing I really remember about this movie is that I thought the actress who plays Chi-Chi (looked up name, which is Jamie Chung), is pretty hot.

  • @TT-md7mm
    @TT-md7mm 4 роки тому +5

    Oh hell yes! One of THE MOST "Wha happeney" things right here.

  • @ordinarybell393
    @ordinarybell393 4 роки тому +14

    I saw this on my birthday, when it came out, and I took a bunch of friends with me to go watch it, opening day. I knew what a dumpster fire I was in for and was ready to enjoy the show, and so was a completely packed theatre. The entire room laughed at every horrible moment, every butchery of Dragonball, and every dumb decision brought to life. We all broke into applause, too; once during the kamehameha at the end, once for the credits, and most importantly, Goku using ki to blow out the candles as he goes in for the kiss.
    Possibly the best cinema experience I've ever had. Probably should've told my friends we were going to laugh at it, not actually watch it.

  • @joeboo8626
    @joeboo8626 4 роки тому +7

    Started watching DBZ in '94. Own all available series, episodes, & movies.
    I have never seen this movie and never will.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 4 роки тому +2

      Who needs Dragonball Evolution when you have Possum's feature-length teardown of DBE? 😂
      ua-cam.com/video/jpDWG15fIuk/v-deo.html

    • @ZanathKariashi
      @ZanathKariashi 4 роки тому

      I can't even make it 5 minutes in, even with TFS riff-track playing.

  • @millymiho2608
    @millymiho2608 3 роки тому +3

    Ah I can't stop watching you "What Happened" episodes! I would love to see a What happened to Jet set radio or jet grind radio

  • @Eidlones
    @Eidlones 4 роки тому +16

    Everyone, do yourself a favor and do a youtube search for "dragon ball evolution car slide"
    You're welcome.

  • @ronjoe17
    @ronjoe17 4 роки тому +4

    I'd still love to see a Rise of the TMNT Wha Happun? someday from you. So much behind the scenes stuff happened to screw that show over in a really unfair way (if you want details, go to @russcarneyofamerica 's twitter. He was a writer on Rise, and according to him, they were told pretty much without warning that the show was going on "hard pause", that season 2 was getting cut in half, and that they only had 6 WEEKS to write the entire finale - and that's just the tip of the iceberg.) Could definitely make for an interesting vid

  • @bisexualichigo4227
    @bisexualichigo4227 4 роки тому +10

    Is this a re-upload, because I swear I seen uou cover this one before.
    Imma rewatch just in case

  • @perkilatorxiii5179
    @perkilatorxiii5179 4 роки тому +3

    Imagine being such a diehard Dragon Ball fan that you read its very inspiration.
    I bet Justin felt even worse about doing his research for nothing when he found out how radically different his character was from the manga.

  • @XGarveyX
    @XGarveyX 4 роки тому +5

    I can't wait for the inevitable Cyberpunk 2077 Wha Happun? SEVEN years in development and launches with more bugs than an NYC apartment building.

  • @joberfeld113
    @joberfeld113 4 роки тому +2

    I had to sit through a Stadia ad during this video. That’ll be perfect for What Happened.

  • @Adamtendo_player_1
    @Adamtendo_player_1 10 місяців тому +4

    I have a suggestion for a future, what happened streetfighter the legend of Chun Li.

  • @scotteous
    @scotteous 4 роки тому

    This is a great video and big props for using the Legacy of Goku 2 soundtrack. Love that music!

  • @Davidwest28
    @Davidwest28 4 роки тому +4

    Already know this bout to be a Banger

  • @bombermankenny1550
    @bombermankenny1550 4 роки тому +2

    I expected DBE to end up on Wha Happen someday. I'd love see more from ya, Matt. In the future, you should cover Evolve, Artifact, LawBreakers, Thundercats Roar, Kids WB, Star Wars prequels, Command and Conquer: Tiberium Twilight, Playstation All Stars Battle Royale, etc.

  • @FanDethklok
    @FanDethklok 4 роки тому +46

    Snyder would have gotten the fights right at least.

  • @shecklesmack9563
    @shecklesmack9563 7 місяців тому +1

    11:54 James Marsters and Chow Yun Fat sitting defeated in the desert because they got bamboozled is a hilarious image.

  • @bartoszgawlik1666
    @bartoszgawlik1666 4 роки тому +6

    7:02 that's Go Nagai, my dude

  • @degmcgee
    @degmcgee 4 роки тому +1

    that transition around 8:58 is absolutely perfect for the show!

  • @Valahan
    @Valahan 4 роки тому +4

    I was studying abroad when this movie came out so my buddies and I got to watch it in Japan a a few weeks before it was released state side.
    Pretty much the only thing I remember about the experience, other than the movie being an absolute train wreck, was that my friends and I were the only one laughing our asses off or making any real noise for that matter in the theatre. It turns out in Japan the expectation is that the audience remains quiet regardless of the movie.
    But it was just too funny to not laugh at.

  • @Bentennosin
    @Bentennosin 2 роки тому +2

    That AMV shook me to the core

  • @JohnnyWasabi
    @JohnnyWasabi 4 роки тому +5

    I want a tenchi muyo live action movie with Tracy Morgan playing Tenchi.

  • @GTK1989
    @GTK1989 4 роки тому +1

    If that's one amv you actually made, congrats I loved that one.