Hey! I know this is old but... you need to start doing controls in your testing for accuracy. Like this tool you should add a 10 lb weight on the end and you can use the same weight with the other tool to compare. For the drilling you can get a dumbbell and place it on top. stuff like this just makes way more sense because you can not be 100% accurate in testing and comparison when working with muscle memory
Comparing tools using a battery adapter is a cool idea! Thank you for sharing these great tests. While more powerful tools work faster, they have proportionally more weight and vibration, which wears out the user faster. I see the difference between these being one of convenience, not exactly performance. I assume the reason the DeWalt is popular despite being slow is because the people who need more performance (and can handle the beating on their body) will use a much larger saw than either of these. Keep up the good work!
Yeah...I can't say I've ever had an urge to get overcharged for DeWalt FlexVolt batteries to use them on my Ryobi tools. HP batteries are spendy enough and they work great.
I'm a Ryobi fanboy from way back. I have the Ryobi blue series 18" Mini Lathe and blue series 6" planer and blue series 12" Portable Bench Planer, blue series 12" table top laser Drill Press amongst other blue series tools and that's how far back I go. And I bought a Dewalt yellow and black 18v drill driver instead of the blue series Ryobi drill drivers because of looks. But now . . . . . . . ? Ryobi lime green tools are strikingly beautiful besides being powerful work horses and I am proud and unashamed Ryobi fanboy to use their tools for my home diy projects.
I always wondered if the adapters increased resistance and reduced overall power but I'm glad to see they don't. Been a while since some good content has came out. Nice to see somethings good
Just have to watch out for tools that have safety features that require communicating with the battery... Adapter with a different brand battery won't work that way. So risks damaging either the battery or the tool if the safety features never kick in to prevent it and you don't keep track of things like over draining the battery, over heating, etc.
Do you think it's worth switching in terms of power & cutting time from the atomic to this Ryobi? Mind you i do not have that beefy 60v battery i just have regular 5ah batteries from Dewalt, not sure how much of a difference there is with power. So Atomic w/regular 5ah battery VS Ryobi w/6ah HP battery. Is it worth switching?
Nice video it would. E awesome if you tested the ridgid octane versus the ryobi or Hili or dewalt. I know lots of people like the ridgid and I was wanting to see what a good stress test would do to it. Thank you for posting all these videos and hopefully you will be able to do more for the coming years
good video but how come he didnt use the ryobi battery . i personally have a a ryobi one and not really satisfied with it thinking of changing to certain rigid products.
I am a long time Dewalt user an recent switched over to milwaukee because porter cable an milwaukee were my old man's favorite.an I was getting able to afford it.then I find out ryobi is owned an made by the same company that owns rigid an milwaukee an shares everything except batteries because of rybobi never changing there power connect in 25 years an for good reason..they claim to make the everyman tool for everyman price so they said they would never switch platforms so u need to get all new power packs that's why u can still put a new ryobi batt in a 25 year old drill an use it
that's a surprise well done Ryobi. I do like the design of the Dewalt better with the movable foot when pivoting. very nice review of both plus adaptor. but would be going into a tool range based on this tool as I think the Dewalt is just better, but stick to what you have got i guess. or if its you just buy everything haha. you will definitely be on my trusted tool guy reviews now as i have just got rid of one by saying the flex volt could short out your tools (which is impossible by design)
@@mikemerk1407 This was just to see how the public would react to it. A time will be established this week, a certain day of the week and a certain time every week until I start to go live. :) this is being added to the channel weekly
sounds good I have a suggestion for an impact wrench review recently I purchased a greenworks 24v impact wrench from amazon when they were running a great deal i paid $52 for the impact wrench and $67 for a chainsaw with battery and charger the only reason i purchased the chainsaw was to get the battery and charger for the impact but it turns out the chainsaw is pretty good for its size but the impact wrench is really small I would compare it in size to the makita low range impact that you just did a video on but the greenworks impact wrench has far more torque it is rated at 540 ft lbs I took it to my buddy's shop where he has a 3/4 inch torque wrench that goes up to 600 ft lbs and we torqued down some semi lug nuts to 500 ft lbs and this little impact popped them loose I was super surprised I tried my milwaukee mid torque on them which is way bigger than the greenworks and the milwaukee wouldn't budge them
_All_ new recip saw shoes should be depth adjustable. There's no excuse. An adjustable shoes makes a big difference when having to cut near critical things like plumbing and electrical. Given that these one-handed saws are specifically designed for those hard-to-reach places, they should definitely be adjustable.
If the stroke is too short, it will need to be capable of 15_20% more strokes per minute. However, after watching the video, I'm glad to be vested in the Ryobi battery platform.
As an all time Ryobi fan I can atest to the prowess of the HP tool line, but it does come at a premium price. I'm worried that trend might continue and eventually Ryobi will stop being the go-to for budget DIYers.
Just to let you know battery chargers dont always charge allv the way it varies quite a bit. I built all of my own batteries for my makita tools so i have done alot of testing
Tim from Canada why is it Ryobi is the handyman tool with the pro tool price for example in Canada all Ryobi tools have gone up at least $50 or more since COVID-19 hit... it is very hard to find a very good tool by RYOBI Brand at the Home Depot for a reasonable price I have found that the Ryobi tool supposed to be for the handyman is now got the pro man price I can tell you for example. .. before COVID-19 you could go to Home Depot in Canada and buy Ryobi 4 tool combo that come with 1reciprocating saw ,1half-inch hammer drill,1. 1/4 impact driver..1 light 1 charger 1 .2Ah battery..1...4Ah battery the price before COVID-19 was $199 Canadian...Now..after cOVID-19 is $279 Canadian.. this is a hell of a jump in price at the Home Depot in Canada for Ryobi tools. But I see in the Americans website Home Depot your tools are very cheap priced then they are in Canada. No matter what you buy in Canada everything is overpriced and cheaply made.
DeWalt makes solid, smooth, but notoriously slow, Recip saws. And why they still do not put a rafter hook, or adjustable depth shoe, on their top of the line saws, is ridiculous. This Atomic Is obviously designed to be lighter in weight, and so I kinda understand no rafter hook, but come on DeWalt, at least throw on an adjustable shoe? The Ryobi clearly outperformed it. I was glad to see you checking the temps, as other channels have reported extremely high operating temperatures, and overheating issues?
Hey i had a question i recently purchased the same tool, yet it sounds like something is loose inside the tool does yours make a noise if you shake it side to side. Thought mine was defective, shook the hd display and it does the same any insight on this?
Hi, Wow, this is going to be very interesting. I do hope DeWalt can make a larger hackzall like milwaukee m18. I do have the milwaukee hackzall and it awesome. I use both brand so I'm happy either way. I differently going to buy those battery adapters so i can use both battery brands on my tools.
@@ManCaverTools Yes, i agree on the size of the DeWalt 20v atomic and 12v hackzall. The smaller frame does have it's purpose for tight spaces. Again, i hope DeWalt comes out with a larger size and more power like the milwaukee m18 hackzall or like the Ryobi. That 12v chain saw was pretty cool. Amazing how fast it cut.
I wish the Dewalt saw had the same blade install as the Ryobi. The chuck/blade insert thing on the Dewalt eventually wore out and was hard to change out blades. I do have an adapter to run Ryobi tools on Dewalt batteries. Might give this Ryobi a go
ryobi needs 64sec to cut a piece of wood 4"×6"... however, the same tool, with the same blade (lightly more worn) with the same battery (lightly more weakened), to cut the exact same piece of wood plus 3 metal nails, it needs only 54sec... 🤤 well, I guess if we nail three more nails, (six nails in total) it'll be able to cut it in 44sec!!! 😂👍
Don’t understand how they cut faster with the nails in the wood vs without nails. You must have pushed harder that would explain the extra smoke from the wood I guess.
Just for shits and giggles you could have swapped blades but the fact that the Ryobi destroyed the dewalt in cutting metal and wood kinda proves the point. Maybe compare the full sized Ryobi to their new compact models
Looks like this is the beginning of the end of Dewalt. Ryobi looks like it's going to do to Dewalt, what it did to BLACK N DECKER. It made it disappeared.😲😲😲
It would be really good if at the end of your videos you sat down and talked about the results. Thanks for the video!
Pablo , I agree, we need a wrap up at the end.
He doesn’t want to at least keep a chart. Wish he did because it would be more definitive in the different brand’s performances.
Agreed, that is a great idea! Thanks for the content David!
I can do that. I will make a scoreboard
@@ManCaverTools Dave if you make a chart like Torque Test Channel, would be amazing. Showing both power, speed, and value (power per dollar spent)
This would be great around the house and yard.. Might pick one of these badboys up.
Hey! I know this is old but... you need to start doing controls in your testing for accuracy. Like this tool you should add a 10 lb weight on the end and you can use the same weight with the other tool to compare. For the drilling you can get a dumbbell and place it on top. stuff like this just makes way more sense because you can not be 100% accurate in testing and comparison when working with muscle memory
I do need to do that and I thank you for the suggestion Master
Comparing tools using a battery adapter is a cool idea! Thank you for sharing these great tests. While more powerful tools work faster, they have proportionally more weight and vibration, which wears out the user faster. I see the difference between these being one of convenience, not exactly performance.
I assume the reason the DeWalt is popular despite being slow is because the people who need more performance (and can handle the beating on their body) will use a much larger saw than either of these. Keep up the good work!
Yeah...I can't say I've ever had an urge to get overcharged for DeWalt FlexVolt batteries to use them on my Ryobi tools. HP batteries are spendy enough and they work great.
And that is all that matter Charles and I thank you for viewing
What a moronic comment.
Wow today I’m glad to be on the Ryobi team 😝
this really is a good tool and Ryobi did a good job with it
I'm a Ryobi fanboy from way back. I have the Ryobi blue series 18" Mini Lathe and blue series 6" planer and blue series 12" Portable Bench Planer, blue series 12" table top laser Drill Press amongst other blue series tools and that's how far back I go. And I bought a Dewalt yellow and black 18v drill driver instead of the blue series Ryobi drill drivers because of looks. But now . . . . . . . ? Ryobi lime green tools are strikingly beautiful besides being powerful work horses and I am proud and unashamed Ryobi fanboy to use their tools for my home diy projects.
Ryobi tools are powerful, are they the best? No, but they are still worth buying and will get the job done
I always wondered if the adapters increased resistance and reduced overall power but I'm glad to see they don't. Been a while since some good content has came out. Nice to see somethings good
Just have to watch out for tools that have safety features that require communicating with the battery... Adapter with a different brand battery won't work that way. So risks damaging either the battery or the tool if the safety features never kick in to prevent it and you don't keep track of things like over draining the battery, over heating, etc.
@@ZeoCyberG i didnt think about that
more adaptors will be coming to this channel
Normally I’m okay with Ryobi being behind or underpowered since they’re the cheaper option. Now I couldn’t be happier with my green tools!
Do you think it's worth switching in terms of power & cutting time from the atomic to this Ryobi? Mind you i do not have that beefy 60v battery i just have regular 5ah batteries from Dewalt, not sure how much of a difference there is with power. So Atomic w/regular 5ah battery VS Ryobi w/6ah HP battery. Is it worth switching?
Nice video it would. E awesome if you tested the ridgid octane versus the ryobi or Hili or dewalt. I know lots of people like the ridgid and I was wanting to see what a good stress test would do to it. Thank you for posting all these videos and hopefully you will be able to do more for the coming years
more versus videos are coming :)
@@Choffer861 why would I rig any tests? what's the point on misguiding people on these tools?
I like the Ryobi line 👍👍👍
this tool did a good job and thank you DIY
I am not a fan of the atomic line but have several Dewalt XR tools, some power detect and they work well.
Power detect is a darn good tool
good video but how come he didnt use the ryobi battery . i personally have a a ryobi one and not really satisfied with it thinking of changing to certain rigid products.
I did do a different video with a Ryobi on that recip saw. this was not the only video I have done of either of those tools
Can you use longer blades on those?
Ryobi's have never let me down.
I am a long time Dewalt user an recent switched over to milwaukee because porter cable an milwaukee were my old man's favorite.an I was getting able to afford it.then I find out ryobi is owned an made by the same company that owns rigid an milwaukee an shares everything except batteries because of rybobi never changing there power connect in 25 years an for good reason..they claim to make the everyman tool for everyman price so they said they would never switch platforms so u need to get all new power packs that's why u can still put a new ryobi batt in a 25 year old drill an use it
I’ll be watching this tomorrow !
I thanky ou Shaun
that's a surprise well done Ryobi. I do like the design of the Dewalt better with the movable foot when pivoting. very nice review of both plus adaptor. but would be going into a tool range based on this tool as I think the Dewalt is just better, but stick to what you have got i guess. or if its you just buy everything haha. you will definitely be on my trusted tool guy reviews now as i have just got rid of one by saying the flex volt could short out your tools (which is impossible by design)
I agree, this is the atomic, if Dewalt made an XR it might do better
10:30 is a little late for a tool premier
I worked late today and I want to be able to watch this uninterrupted
Good video
Thanks
just letting you know son I believe your end goal is to get views not gonna reel them in late night
@@mikemerk1407 This was just to see how the public would react to it. A time will be established this week, a certain day of the week and a certain time every week until I start to go live. :) this is being added to the channel weekly
sounds good I have a suggestion for an impact wrench review recently I purchased a greenworks 24v impact wrench from amazon when they were running a great deal i paid $52 for the impact wrench and $67 for a chainsaw with battery and charger the only reason i purchased the chainsaw was to get the battery and charger for the impact but it turns out the chainsaw is pretty good for its size but the impact wrench is really small I would compare it in size to the makita low range impact that you just did a video on but the greenworks impact wrench has far more torque it is rated at 540 ft lbs I took it to my buddy's shop where he has a 3/4 inch torque wrench that goes up to 600 ft lbs and we torqued down some semi lug nuts to 500 ft lbs and this little impact popped them loose I was super surprised I tried my milwaukee mid torque on them which is way bigger than the greenworks and the milwaukee wouldn't budge them
Does that adapter have the four connection points on the Ryobi side?
I actually didnt look at that, but I will now
_All_ new recip saw shoes should be depth adjustable. There's no excuse. An adjustable shoes makes a big difference when having to cut near critical things like plumbing and electrical. Given that these one-handed saws are specifically designed for those hard-to-reach places, they should definitely be adjustable.
I agree with you on that
@Mike Dorman That would be an acceptable solution as well.
Is there a adapter for Milwaukee batteries on Ryobi tools ?
im pretty sure some company made one
I'm on team yellow but dang Ryobi is stepping up there game and kicked DeWALTS butt this time at least🤣 Thanks for the great video MCT
people need to give ryobi more credit then what they get
If the stroke is too short, it will need to be capable of 15_20% more strokes per minute.
However, after watching the video, I'm glad to be vested in the Ryobi battery platform.
The Ryobi platform is good to get into
As an all time Ryobi fan I can atest to the prowess of the HP tool line, but it does come at a premium price. I'm worried that trend might continue and eventually Ryobi will stop being the go-to for budget DIYers.
Ryobi tools are not cheap any more. these prices are here to stay and probably rise in the future
Can you post a link to the dewalt battery adapter that you're using on the ryobi??
Good video.i go with ryobi,its my platform.ill keep it simple...same batteries,and charger.
I Thank you so much for viewing :)
does anyone know if there is a battery adapter that goes with a Ryobi battery but goes to a m18 tool
hello why there are smoke only in th ryobi? when you cut wood. thanks
it was the wood
It smoked with the dewalt as well
Which one is lighter ?
That I do not know. I didnt judge weight at the time but now I do
Just to let you know battery chargers dont always charge allv the way it varies quite a bit. I built all of my own batteries for my makita tools so i have done alot of testing
Tim from Canada why is it Ryobi is the handyman tool with the pro tool price for example in Canada all Ryobi tools have gone up at least $50 or more since COVID-19 hit... it is very hard to find a very good tool by RYOBI Brand at the Home Depot for a reasonable price I have found that the Ryobi tool supposed to be for the handyman is now got the pro man price I can tell you for example. .. before COVID-19 you could go to Home Depot in Canada and buy Ryobi 4 tool combo that come with 1reciprocating saw ,1half-inch hammer drill,1. 1/4 impact driver..1 light 1 charger 1 .2Ah battery..1...4Ah battery the price before COVID-19 was $199 Canadian...Now..after cOVID-19 is $279 Canadian.. this is a hell of a jump in price at the Home Depot in Canada for Ryobi tools. But I see in the Americans website Home Depot your tools are very cheap priced then they are in Canada. No matter what you buy in Canada everything is overpriced and cheaply made.
Thats sucks man and Inm sorry. keep your fingers crossed for some deals bro
DeWalt makes solid, smooth, but notoriously slow, Recip saws. And why they still do not put a rafter hook, or adjustable depth shoe, on their top of the line saws, is ridiculous. This Atomic Is obviously designed to be lighter in weight, and so I kinda understand no rafter hook, but come on DeWalt, at least throw on an adjustable shoe? The Ryobi clearly outperformed it. I was glad to see you checking the temps, as other channels have reported extremely high operating temperatures, and overheating issues?
No issues yet on these tools. I always show if a tools fries out
Hey i had a question i recently purchased the same tool, yet it sounds like something is loose inside the tool does yours make a noise if you shake it side to side. Thought mine was defective, shook the hd display and it does the same any insight on this?
id ask for a trade in
The hp impact I got does the same thing and I've heard other people say the same thing. It works fine though
@@chiefsnation8347 thanks for your input
I’d like to see these 2 vs m12 hacksaw
Can you compare ryobi and Milwaukee??
Hi,
Wow, this is going to be very interesting. I do hope DeWalt can make a larger hackzall like milwaukee m18. I do have the milwaukee hackzall and it awesome.
I use both brand so I'm happy either way. I differently going to buy those battery adapters so i can use both battery brands on my tools.
I think they should as well. the Atmoic is a small one
@@ManCaverTools
Yes, i agree on the size of the DeWalt 20v atomic and 12v hackzall. The smaller frame does have it's purpose for tight spaces.
Again, i hope DeWalt comes out with a larger size and more power like the milwaukee m18 hackzall or like the Ryobi.
That 12v chain saw was pretty cool. Amazing how fast it cut.
It’s one hand tool. Could you please compare them by using one hand for the result?
you can use 2 hands with it
You should try plunge cutting with these Sawzalls if you don't know what that is lmk
I thank you for viewing Jace
I definitely want to know how Milwaukee tools works with dewalt battery and makita tools with either dewalt or Milwaukee batteries.
I will be getting more adapters soon and I thank you Janes
Bro! Where’d you get the battery adapter?
How is the ryobi sawzall cutting speed compared to ryobi’s own chainsaw
Shout out to the spider at @9:34 lol
lol
Your tool collection. 🤓🤓
Yes sir. I love tools
Nice verses video Dave! Ryobi is upping their game a bit.
I thank they are as well and I thank you blue
wonder how these fare against unistrut or allthread...
I’m surprised by team green again. Great video where do you live that you need a coat already.
They did a good job with this tool and I thank you Pop
So you recommend the milwaukee with a chainsaw blade and it cut easier and faster.... apples to oranges there. That was a no-brainer.
this is Dewalt vs Ryobi
Anyone see the spider when he was using the M12?
Where
lol
lonedesertfox Starts crawling up right at 9:33 by the timer
I need one of these!
Yes you do
Great video. Any idea when Ryobi will be showing off more of the HP line?
NO idea yey. I want a hammer drill though :)
@@ManCaverTools now you have it😄
Mistake on 7:15. Dewalt - 1 min 06.87 sec, not 1 min 68.7 sec
9:34 Who else spotted that little buggy fella?
I wish the Dewalt saw had the same blade install as the Ryobi. The chuck/blade insert thing on the Dewalt eventually wore out and was hard to change out blades. I do have an adapter to run Ryobi tools on Dewalt batteries. Might give this Ryobi a go
RYOBI ROCKS!
Judging by the smoke, I'd say you need sharper blades.
Those advanti make the best wood cutting blades don't know about metal cutting blades never used them
I thought they did a decent job in this video
The DeWalt atomic line is non-canon
Lol'd
I thank you for viewing Cade
Exactly
So what I get from this video is ryobi tools are kinda fast as long as you use a different company batteries great
ryobi needs 64sec to cut a piece of wood 4"×6"...
however, the same tool, with the same blade (lightly more worn)
with the same battery (lightly more weakened), to cut the exact same piece of wood plus 3 metal nails, it needs only 54sec...
🤤
well, I guess if we nail three more nails, (six nails in total) it'll be able to cut it in 44sec!!!
😂👍
Perhaps with enough nails in it, it could achieve hyperluminal cutting! Recip saws to warp 7 Mr. Sulu!
I thank you for viewing Nikos Lolo
lol
Don’t understand how they cut faster with the nails in the wood vs without nails. You must have pushed harder that would explain the extra smoke from the wood I guess.
sometimes the blade really bites into the wood.
What car is that?
Nissan Sentra
Fuck it may even be a Versa 😂😂 I haven't kept up the most on Nissan. But pretty sure it's Sentra
its my wife's care. its a Sentra
you are correct
This guy. It's a hackZALL. It's the little brother to the sawzall. But I bet he also says sawzaw just like all the other 1st year apprentices.
This is Ryobi new series?? Ryobi one?
Yes this is the New HP series
Great Vid David!
I thank you Greg :)
Just for shits and giggles you could have swapped blades but the fact that the Ryobi destroyed the dewalt in cutting metal and wood kinda proves the point.
Maybe compare the full sized Ryobi to their new compact models
More versus videos will be coming up
9:33 lol who else noticed that bug
lol
Please use respiratory protection too, it's dangerous for your lungs to inhale those metal and wood shavings
I do thank you so much for viewing :)
Someone needs to compare the ryobi to the snap on 14.4v
Looks like this is the beginning of the end of Dewalt. Ryobi looks like it's going to do to Dewalt, what it did to BLACK N DECKER. It made it disappeared.😲😲😲
lol, I thank you for viewing Heckee
DeWalt 1min and... 68 seconds? I think you mean 2 minutes and 8 seconds lmao
if I made a typing error my bad
@@ManCaverTools all good brother easy mistake, just thought it was funny
Why did you do it with the dewalt xr ! Your a big fan of ryobi not fair!!!!
once dewalt makes a single handed XR recip saw I will :)
#RYOBI 👍
I thank you for viewing Faraz
Atomic line has the same power of the 12v xtreme without any of the practicality.
You use the same 20volt batteries as the rest of the tools. Lightweight tool without starting a new battery line.
a versus video will be coming soon
Hackzall is what they're called
So... Who else is ready for Atomic 2.0?
not sure, but I am excited about it
Aaaagghhh you used a DeWalt battery in a Ryobi! That's it! Unsub! Only joking, great video Dave but please use the factory batteries for each tool 🤣😁
lol, I thank you for viewing MR.
12:10
I watch a lot of your videos, are you always drunk when you record?
I don't drink
Lol, what makes you think he's drunk?
Ryobi 1 minute 4.35 seconds
Dewalt 1 minute 68.7 seconds?
What is 1 minute 68.7 seconds 😒🤦🏻♂️
Should’ve been 1 minute 6.8 seconds.
don't hate me for a miss type
@@ManCaverTools I’m just bugging brother I enjoy the content regardless. 👍
Incorrect implementation of the reciprocating in this test.
The test result cannot be accurate.
I thank you for viewing Phillip
@@ManCaverTools I like your videos but this time I think the test could be done differently. My best wish for you!
Can you explain what you mean please?
work is not speed race!!!!!??
To some some people time is money. so they want a faster more powerful tool
Yes it is.
Less time spent on each job means more jobs can be done.
More jobs equal more money.
Simple math.
#5
I thank you Evan :)
Ryobi cheater, - sold. )