The ranking is weighted towards performance since it's something we can test and show you that you can't just google. But we hear ya, if you guys want to see more we can likely divide test time by 2 or something. And if your criteria is based on size & price that totally makes sense, but then you probably don't need to watch a testing video :D
I'm fine with the way you score them. Performance(quality, reliability, feeling) is the most important thing I come to you for. Size and price are the things I weight myself. So when going down your list, I pick the ones that meet my price/size and then you have them sorted by performance/reliability.
I think having the notes on replaceable batteries and et al. that others have commented is cool. But in so far as the ranking goes, your criteria is good, people who have different needs can also quickly understand and take what they want from the rankings and video.
Being a tradesman that has tested several powered screwdrivers, I have the Dewalt and I've had it since it came out. Ths is my most used tool by a longshot. This little thing is a war machine for it's size. Not because of it's power or speed, but because with some practice using the gyroscopic tech it can offer the same amount of finesse as a manual screwdriver. It has taken dozens of pretty significant falls, been dropped in a bucket of water, and used to break loose screws that were entirely too tight for it. If it died tomorrow I'd go buy another before running the next service call. I let the owner of our company play with it and he liked it so much he bought all the road techs one for Christmas with a matching bit set.
I've been doing solar for roughly 10 years and have had mine dealt one for about 8 of that. I resonate completely with your comment. It really punches above it's weight for being a screwdriver. Mine is the older one that can be straight or pistol grip, kinda bummed they went away from that design.
@@angelophillips5334 I actually have 3 of them. The one that converts to a pistol grip was great until the latch mechanism got weak and would twist around at random. It lives on my workbench now in the garage.
I have the craftsman gyroscopic for the same reason. Dealing with smaller fasteners or delicate materials makes precision crucial. My one-speed screwdrivers just don’t have the control to trust with every application.
agreed, first time I've seen this Dewalt. my fave electric screwdriver is actually a Makita drill because it can go really slow and variable speed. It has a clutch, and light. Only that it it is too big for some jobs. The cost of that Dewalt though...
@@TorqueTestChannel There's a german saying that fits this situation rather well - "Auch ein blindes huhn findet mal ein korn" translates literally to "even a blind chicken sometimes finds a kernel of corn" or: sometimes, even denali makes an amazing tool. Thought you might get a kick out of this ps.: cordless soldering irons when?
@APF3LKUCH3NLP Cordless soldering iron? If they compare these, they need to compare butane ones and those as-seen-on-TV cold soldering irons. I'd get a huge kick out of comparing them to standard electric soldering irons.
@@SvdSinnergas is much more natural to create heat with than electricity. It can also be more compact. Also the butane ones are usually 3 in 1 heat gun , solder and torch functions. I really can't see the advantage of a batt model.
This testing omitted an important ability: the maximum torque that can be applied manually before the internal gearing gives way and starts turning. Using my battery screwdriver (a Flip Out) I remove a stuck screw by first breaking it loose manually then powering it out the rest of the way. Cheers.
The dewalt gyro is my favorite tool. It can drive a #10 screw into plywood or be delicate enough to install electrical face plates without cracking them. Everyone I let try mine ends up buying one. The gyro becomes intuitive after you use it for 20 minutes
You guys slept on the 7.2v makita pen impact driver. Delicate as can be, I also bought it for devicing jobs out. But as soon as I discovered it can drive tapcons I ditched my full size impacts (leave them on the truck) and my screwdrivers (except my beater flat head of course) and now it rides in my tool pouch talking pretty much all of my work on commercial sites. I rough in with it, metal or wood studs, i make up panels with it, and I device with it. I only get my big impact out for hanging outdoor disconnects or wallpacks or anything requiring a lot of tapcons. It became my favorite tool ever, really fast.
I'd like to see a comparison of how each of them handles fine torque requirements. As in, which one is best at not blowing out plastic threads on a battery door or other fragile things like that.
Models with clutchs. Torque consistency, speed, power and finesse. My go to is the Makita 7.2V screwdriver. Expensive, but the best range screwdriver that delivers low torque control. I hope there's something better out there, the models are well over 15 years old and still expensive. I have a bosch go2 as well. The clutch isn't as nice, less power but worse on delicate threads.
My anecdotal evidence is that the Metabo HPT screwdriver has a pretty good clutch, although it doesn't quite go low enough for super tiny screws, like a #0 or #1 into a plastic boss DeWalt gyro has a very good low range clutch, at the lowest torque setting you can hardly even feel the reaction torque on the tool
I own the DeWalt. The gyroscopic switch works similar to the normal trigger on a impact, in that it's not all or nothing. If you twist the screwdriver less, it turns slower. Sorry, I'm hopped up on pain meds with a broken arm right now, some having a hard time wording my statements correctly
the bosch model i have i use for RC cars with small screws being screwed into plastic has awesome torque adjustability. never striped anything since buying it
I have had both dewalts. The right angle one with the clutch is a godsend for working on RC cars and drones. Never strip any more machine screws into plastic again! I still don't understand why rc car companies use machine screws for plastic parts anyways.
Proud to have worked on the DeWalt gyro drive team during development of the original original straight/pistol swivel design. Twist control was a friend's experiment that ended up working way more intuitively than I really expected. Love them, and still have a couple preproduction/customer return units at home that get weekly use around the house and on automotive interior fasteners.
I have the swivel 8v dewalt (DCF680N2) and it's honestly great!! I love that little thing!! Done plenty of questionable jobs with it too 😅😅 can be used as a drill with the right bits!
Yep, my favorite driver. Torque/ratchet collar makes it much more versatile than the stick style brother. Pistol mode is much more intuitive/comfortable than the stick mode as well. I keep it in my toolbelt for electrical, and the little bit clip holds a SQ1, flathead, and combo Philips/R2 bit (Bosch).
I have that Hoto screwdriver and have yet to find any "basic" household needs that it didn't have the torque or speed for, I really like it! These types of screwdrivers really aren't meant to be craftsman's workhorses or on-site tools but rather something in your household handyman toolbox that can potentially replace several other drivers, and it does just that...with style :)
What's really nice about the DeWalt is that it's also suitable for more delicate work: for small screws you can sort of grip it more loosely so that it forces your hand back when the appropriate torque is reached, and then it stops. Best purchase I've made recently.
I’ve had the DeWalt one for years and I love it. Super handy for laptop disassembly/reassembly and no stripped screws or carpal tunnel! The charger is pretty well known to be junk though. Lots of failures when these first came out, hope they are better now.
Do you find the DeWalt kind of bulky? That is my only concern on the DeWalt. ROI is everything..... price of tools is far less than lost productivity. I have not had a cordless (powered) precision screwdriver since my old Skill Twist died, years ago.
@@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 I don't think it's any more bulky than I would expect... it's comfortable to use. If it's worth your cost will be subjective I guess - I only paid about $40 for mine used so the cost was not much of a factor.
There's a lot of support here for DeWalt and I'll add that having the removable battery is a big plus. If you're doing any volume of work, when the battery runs out you can't sit around waiting for a recharge - you just put in a fresh battery. The gyro action takes about 10 seconds to get used to and you soon feel like you couldn't live without it. When I bought my DeWalt I got the screwdriver, a charger, 2 batteries, and a bag for $99. To me it's worth every penny.
I bought my Dewalt a few years ago at Christmas time so it was on sale and a different model. It came with 2 batteries, charger, the screwdriver which has a torque setting ring and folds 90 degrees. The 2 batteries keep me moving thru the day. Still running strong.
I bought the pivoting pistol grip version of the Dewalt around 8 years ago, then bought the straight version 5 years ago, then bought another straight version 3 years ago. They’re kept in different work benches and one in my trusty Veto Pro Pack… I absolutely love those little Dewalt’s. Once you figure them out you’ll never reach for a regular screwdriver of any size again, yep.. they’ll even handle very small and delicate screws/nuts/bolts in electronics, its as delicate as you can be. Lastly, it’ll drill nice holes with a set of those hex drive drill bits.
A note on button positioning - a lot of the time these screwdrivers are used for taking tiny screws out of electronics and other small devices, so you often end up working on a desk and holding the tool with the butt facing up and the drive facing down - like if you were going to stab someone with it. When you do that the buttons sit perfectly where your thumb is.
Exactly why the "normal screwdriver" silhouette/conversion ability is important, in my mind. I'm not always in a place where I can pistol-grip a screwdriver.
I won the DeWalt at a tradeshow 4-5 years ago and laughed at the idea of a power screwdriver.. Nope it rocks and I use it all the time. Mainly as a 3/8-10mm or less nut driver. The battery lasts seemingly forever and the twist to activate is so natural.
great video TTC, back in the 1990 i bought my first house , then bought my first cordless drill and screwdriver ,both Black and Decker , this was a very old home that still had tube and knob wiring and glass fuses, an old 2 storey house that had 40 amp service and a separate circuit for an electric water heater, so both tools got allot of workouts, the screwdriver was 3.6 volts with a flexible handle w/charger & 2 batteries, it rocked, the house had 23 windows and i installed new blinds on everyone one of them using it and used it as a drill to, i bought a bit package for it from B&D for $10 and used like 1 battery and a bit to complete it, i was impressed and it went on to be my go to tool back then, I started a part time gig installing new blinds on the side for a number of companies for a few yers, it was great you needed very few tools i had it all in a old medicine shaped tool bag that i bought a sling strap for, it worked great for me and even did some Christmas light hanging for people with it, those drill bit kits were awesome and took up no space , i think this being Prime Day I'll go buy the Skid Twist 2.0 , thx Cool Video 👍
I ended up buying the Denali for me to work on car interiors (speakers and stereos), and the Hoto for my wife to have a "power tool" to put together furniture with. I must say, the Denali is fantastic. Enough power and torque to break small nuts, screws and bolts free, but not enough to break plastic. In my opinion, worth EVERY penny. Thanks for another great review.
Would love to see a part 2 to this with the Dremel/Bosch Go 2, The various Vessel screwdrivers and the Makita td022dzo. The Makita wouldn't be apples to apples but would like to see how it stacks up!
I had the Bosch Go original with the electronic clutch and it sucked. Then it died when pushing down didn't switch it on. I only had it for a few months.
@@Utuber-x44 I had the first gen Dremel( same as bosch) and it lasted me for 4 years until it wouldn't hold a charge. Upgraded to the Gen 2 Dremel and it's OK but honestly liked the Gen 1 better. Feels like the Gen 1 would keep turning on things the Gen 2 gets hung up on.
The Dewalt GYRO is one of the absolute most handy drills ever invented for camera installers or electricians, or similar tasks. Make it better, add the Makita E-03442 Impact Premier Mag Boost. You will wonder why you never bought this to begin with. Takes a small learning curve, but then you are addicted. It's so wonderful in awkward positions also.
I'd like to see the harbor freight 4v hybrid 2 position screwdriver tested, I'm sure it's not the best available but being able to change from a straight to angled is pretty neat and the $20 price tag isn't bad either.
These two top companies ( TTI and Stanley-Black&Decker will often have many brands and models, so each retail box store can have a different product, and no price-matching.@@typewriterman1068
The throw my vote in for the DeWalt. Nothing to do with name brand but I've owned one for years The slightly bigger one with the handle that locks at 90°. Easier on your wrist I've used it for thousands of laptop repairs. Something not mentioned is the DeWalt model I have has a torque setting which is really nice for setting fasteners and not stripping screws in plastic
I was shocked how good the Denali was, I got it because the Ryobi twist version was so big in my bag... would love to see the Vessel and similar brands like Panasonic and generics too. I wasn't willing to pay for the jacked up $$ on the Vessel but have been happy with a generic version so far.
Im a locksmith, and we use the 8v dewalt daily, except ours can be transformed to a pistol grip. It is phenomenal to take off the small fateners we use, and the omes we have have a clutch to keep from overtightening hardware as well. The swappable battery is great as well.
This was a nice deviation from your normal content, which I enjoy. I never considered getting a power screwdriver because I thought they were junk. I'm giving it some thought now.
The pistol style ones are generally a better buy, imo, as long as you’re not working in seriously tight places. They tend to be more powerful for the price. Gotta mention NoCry’s electric screwdriver, because it’s crazy inexpensive for how powerful and feature rich it is.
I have the DeWALT version that twists between a pistol grip and straight grip, and it's actually been fantastic. It's got just enough power to act as a small drill in a pinch, and handles lots of big rackmount screws without breaking a sweat. And yeah, the gyroscope is surprisingly intuitive.
The Vessel model would be interesting considering its size. I use one for interior stuff at work so that I don't break anything and it's been great for that.
The dewalt 8v gyroscopic model I have can switch from pistol grip to inline- I use it daily in the HVAC field and it will drive 5/16 self tapping screws in sheet metal I love it
Back in the 80s when I was prepping/repairing PCs, often lining them up for large orders, I actually liked a weaker power screwdriver since these were all machine screws in the chassis. That worked out well, since every piece of junk power screwdriver back then was pretty weak.
A few years ago I purchased the pivoting DeWalt screw driver, and it was love at first screw type of thing. Until today I prefer using it over a manual screw driver for any quick and indoor job that I come across.
It was definitely a fun comparison and worth watching, but I think this class of tools is more about the less tangible usability issues than the easier to measure specs.
I have an ancient Black&Decker one. It's relatively large, and I replaced the original Ni-Cd battery with Eneloop Ni-MHs. Runs great, ideal for assembling my windsurfing material, as it's just strong enough to tighten the fin screws with the appropriate torque. Works great for hard to reach screws too, especially in furniture.
I've had the worx for over a year and it's been pretty good, I scrapped an old Skil which was pretty cheap quality but lasted like 8 years and had some torque albeit slow, it was a mini pistol with cheap forward reverse and even cheaper trigger which ultimately was it's demise. Once you put the Worx case in your tool bag you realize that a mini impact pretty much is a better choice but around the house the worx still is pretty decent on small stuff.
From an electricians stand point I'm looking for speed instead of torque because 90% of what I want to use this on is fine thread residential crap and if I need to torque it it's going to be a regular screwdriver. So my question is what's the best speed vs. size and which has replaceable batteries?
Would love to see the DCF601 in the mix someday :) I like that form factor of screwdriver best, especially with the adjustable clutch and enough beans to actually drive screws and bigger things. I have it and the older version, both used all the time!
I used the previous model with the torque clutch a lot. To me it is all about torque control. I deal with a lot o smaller stuff. Try doing screws in plastic with these. My favourite application; electric panels. You can torque all screws with a clutch model to the same spec in a couple of minutes. Fine adjustment of the low torque range is key. Drills and impact drivers are for high torque application.
I'd be interest in a comparison of cordless screwdrivers with clutches. The range of the clutching, the accuracy of the clutching. Maybe compare it against an industrial torque screwdriver.
A friend showed me his newest tool about 5 years ago, a Ryobi 4v pistol grip job which would drive in a 3.5" deck screw to the head! I got one, too. It's my go-to drill driver in the house. In the shop, I have either a full size Milwaukee drill driver or impactor. I have missed my old (Satanley or Black&DeckerPeckerWrecker, I forget.) electric screwdriver I used when building computers. I do enough small work that the Denali will likely make its way into my tool set once the Amazon points stack up to 24 ducats worth. RE: the switch, I often hold the little electric screwdrivers driver side down in my hand and the switch would work fine for that style. Thanks for the testing, guys. I like your channel.
this is exactly why your channel is so valuable. of course the dewalt would win with the volts and price, but we could never have guessed the denali would be the champ and at the best price thank you for your work!
Every once in a while, the off-brand item is superb.... but when you want to get another, it is gone. My FAVORITE utility knife was an "Apollo", bought at Krogers supermarket... they had a cardboard dump-bin of 2 or 3 assorted tools.... 5.99 each... Should have gotten a few dozen for gifts. FAR better than even the top price Milwaukee or Stanley-DeWalt. Same with a knockoff Dremel ( corded ) the off brand one ios FAR better than the REAL "Dremel" one from Robert Bosch.
I have the DeWalt and love it. I'm in the IT field and use it nearly every day. One feature that I think you should have brought up was the clutch, as this enables it to be used for very delicate tasks as well as tougher task that you showed. When reassembling an electronic device that has 30+ screws that fasten into a plastic frame the clutch is priceless. Also as you showed it handles tougher tasks very well. I've even bought a second one to keep as a spare when this one inevitably dies. Oh and the DeWalt has another mode just like the one you showed except that it can change between the straight driver to a pistole grip driver and also has the same gyro activation. Absolutely love the DeWalt gyro screw drivers.
This model doesn’t have a clutch, but the model that can switch to a pistol grip does have a clutch. I use mine everyday too (computer repair technician)
Got my DeWalt on father's day for $60, I love the thing, my line of work we have to assemble and dissemble racks and other furniture type things that require a screwdriver or Allen key and it comes in so clutch.
I have the Dewalt and absolutely love it. There are kits available where you get 2 batteries, but the single battery lasts so long, it isn't really necessary. You really need another category for these cordless screwdrivers though, and that's coolness. This is where the Dewalt would totally win, because it's basically magic with the gyroscopic thingy.
Awesome! No one else is doing this. You should throw the Bauer and Hart options in next. I own both and use them. They are both fantastic but use a proprietary charger. Might have to look into the Denali for better charging.
I have an older version of a Skil driver, and it doesn't have that much torque, but it's still my favorite tool ever. I love the thing. It's so intuitive.
Yeah, I really wish they would have included both the metabo and the Milwaukee versions. They’re both very similar, but a few differences, and the metabo is cheaper than the dewalt they did include with better features and a far better control scheme IMO.
Recently bought 2 of the Worx Kits at Sam's Club for $19.99 each. With the various bits and holders in the kit I think it is a better choice over the Denali, in spite of the latter's slightly better battery and run time. Lots of room for additional bits and sockets in the case, BTW. Thanks for making this useful content.
I've used the Milwaukee for years at work. The best thing about it is that it fits in my tool pouch and runs for a long time with plenty of torque. It was expensive, however, but worth it.
I have the dewalt that bends and has the clutch also. It’s a great tool. You don’t have to twist quickly to get it to move quickly. It follows the start point and about 90° from there is full speed. I bought it so I could hand it to my son and not over tighten screws on a pc build.
I love my DeWalt 8v screwdriver, the one I have has a clutch on it. I also want to mention that I got two 8v battery, a charger, a bag, and it came with a clutch. It was only 24 dollars more than the one you have on screen. It is beautiful for doing door hardware...
I've had that same Dewalt for almost seven years now and it's a beast. It doesn't take you long to get used to the gyroscope and it's sensitive enough to power three inch wood screws into 2x4s or gently put machine screws back into plastic. It's great
@@TorqueTestChannel great video! "go buy the cheapest one from the Amazon house brand if you want performance" is a surprise, to put it mildly, and a pretty good case study on the value of y'alls work!
Another great video. You are the go to guys. Was going to get the Denali on Amazon but saw that my local Lowes had the Skil twist in stock and being an instant gratification guy, I went down to the store to get one (since I am only looking for something for small jobs where my Milwaukee M12 impact driver is overkill). While they said they had 6 in stock, they were out. The selling price was $19.00. I asked the Lowes guy to double check their inventory and he said they were sold out. He said that they normally carry the DeWalt you featured but couldn't find it on their website. We looked in the locked cabinet and sure enough they had 3 in stock at a clearance price of $62.50. While it is a bit chunky and "double" the size of the others you reviewed, at that price I said, "What the heck" and got it. Charging the battery as I write and it will be interesting to see how the gyro feature works.
To be honest, the smaller impact drivers have taken the place of these things for me. Anything that needs finesse I just use the ol manual screwdriver. I personally use the 12v cxt brushless Makita impact driver, the auto mode has plenty of control for delicate screws and it still has plenty of power for 3/8 size fasteners.
I got life-changing news for you, the 7.2v Makita TD022 is both a screwdriver and an impact driver. I loved my subcompact Makita impact driver same as you do but the TD022 will blow your mind. I bought one more to be sure my favourite tool was always around, now i can leave one in the car and still have one in the shop. Still using my subcompact impact driver from time to time but the TD022 is now my go-to tool for pretty much everything.
Only critique is no mention of variable speed. I had the old Makita 7.2 and the difference in usability between it and even the ancient 7.2v nicad cordless screwdriver was huge. The gyroscopic dewalt is great for stuff like swapping electrical devices. Give it a bit and finish by hand. I’ve driven at least 1 5/8 Sheetrock screws with it.
I think these tests miss the point of these electric screwdrivers. If I need torque, I'd use a driver. For the rest, I want something small, and as similar to a regular screwdriver as possible for ease of handling/use, that can turn fast on screws that don't need a lot of torque. Like when you're working on computer equipment, or lots of electrical switches, receptables, etc.
TLDR: size and cost are quite important, but there is such a thing as too weak as well, so maybe just a bit more balance in the score? I agree, I have the craftsman and love it since it goes in my electrical bag just like my normal screwdriver, but will put receptacle/switch screws in much quicker than doing it by hand. However, I also see the benefit of at least a minimum acceptable amount of torque. When using it on metal boxes, it's perfectly fine. However, plastic boxes where the screws are cutting their threads, it will occasionally bog down. My all-time favorite that doesn't fit in the bag as well and isn't made anymore is the black and decker gyro. Button is on the back and it has a very comfortable t-grip style handle and a touch more power than the craftsman. The gyro mechanism is perfect for applying only the amount of force necessary for the fastener. However, it is hampered by a proprietary charger that is also not manufactured anymore. A USB port would have been so much more convenient.
I use a Panasonic cordless, and a bunch of workmates love them too, it has an adjustable clutch on it which is great for the sub 2mm screws i generally use it for (and tapping 2mm holes!)
Awesome video. I have the craftsman precisely because of its lack of torque. It will never strip screws or damage boards. It will never over tighten and dimple mud rings on drywall, because it can't.
I have a Black and Decker A7073 alkaline powered screw driver that I won in a raffle at work over 10 years ago. It has loads of torque for its size and has never failed. I’ve even used it to drive wood screws through 5/8” mdf and particle board. Since its an infrequently used tool the expense of 4 aa cells is worth the convenicence of knowing its at full power when I need it.
I have a Craftsman one that works like the Dewalt and I find the controls intuitive once you start working with it. No switches or triggers to control direction, just squeeze and treat it like a handlebar throttle and twist it the way you want it to go. Can quickly loosen or tighten a small amount to by letting go of the button and use it like a manual driver.
Low-torque screwdrivers have their place. Many consumer products consist of plastic half-shells joined together with metal screws. Disassembling these is no problem, but putting them back together often resultsvin several holes stripped of their threads. I once used a low-torque driver that was perfect for reassembling a coffee machine with a few dozen screws back together without ruining any of the threads.
I remodeled an entire kitchen with my DeWalt using it for cabinet assembly as well as screwing into the wall studs. That was some years ago and I still use it regularly for anything that doesn’t need an impact driver such as deck screws and construction screws etc. one of my best buys in tools. I have the one with the angled handle capability.
Regarding cordless screwdrivers, I know some techs would use them to do simple things like remove or install screws for faceplates (think telecom work, like phone and data jacks in a commercial office). Sometimes faceplates are screwed into nothing more than a metal 'caddy' ring in the drywall wall and there's basically no resistance in that case, but sometimes they're screwed into plastic boxes mounted in the wall or floor and THOSE are the times you wish you had a cordless screwdriver to speed things up because those often have lots of resistance when installing or removing a screw for the faceplate. Carrying around an impact driver or drill driver isn't always practical for an installer/tech in the case where you're just dealing with faceplates all day long. A cordless screwdriver is much more handy and practical. It's a big time saver. They have enough torque to deal with those plastic boxes but are still small and fast AND they still fit into your tool pouch on your tool belt.
Found the skil for 20 and I don't regret spending it at all is good for electrical trim out. It does not tighten everything but I rather have that extra small hand tightening . It doesn't hold drill bits well but I made it work with a extender and some contacts glue
In case anyone is interested in the Denali driver, it is even cheaper right now at $17.60. Not sure if that would move it to a higher ranking, but makes it more appealing for me to give it a shot! Great video as always TTC!
As an electrician I had suffered from tennis elbow & was told not to be on my tools by my doctor. The DeWalt 8v gyroscopic screwdriver allowed me to continue work without putting stress on my arm. I have used it ever since then & now own four, one for around the house, one for my hobbies (RC cars & building computers), one for work & one spare.I am rarely seen on the jobsite without my DeWalt by my side (perfect for fit outs & panel work).
I bought a Dremel branded screwdriver for $30, supposedly the same as the Bosch on a dumb impulse buy.. I've never used it. The only use I can see for it is an assembly production job but I doubt the battery would last 1/2 a shift or even an hour..
Now for screw drivers and fancy handles like the snap-on and its torque clames. Even ones with the helper spot for wrenches. How much can the do before caming out
Surprising results on that one for sure! There is another detail I personally would find helpful to be compared, and that is, how reliable and strong is the auto-locking shaft when you do have to manually break loose a fastener too much for the motor? I find especially on these drivers, but also on drills there is a great variance in the quality of this function. Thanks again for all you do, great video as always!
I have owned the Dewalt for a few years now. Rock-solid reliable and I'm an 'ol'Fud' and when I first 'played' with the gyro switch, my thoughts were, 'This new-fangled tomfoolery.' Now, you may have my Dewalt, when you pry it from my old, arthritic hands.
Great comparison! That Denali shock my socks off. But, man I love my DeWalt driver like that. The speed and torque of it is amazing. The precision of the gyro is impressive. I have the DCF68ON2 at work that has the clutch setting, adjustable handle and comes with 2 batteries. I got lucky with the one I use on my home workbench (DCF682N1). I bought it as tool only from the local flea market for $25 and bought an aftermarket battery for it. I can't say enough how much it saves my wrist as much tools etc. that I disassemble. It's super quick and a real carpal tunnel saver for sure! Thanks for sharing this test data with is. It was very interesting.
I worked in a CNC machining department for an automotive manufacturer and I used one of those ryobi screw drivers to do quality checks on tapped holes. It worked pretty well all things considered. Upper management was pretty happy about the cost as well.
always get one with bits locking mechanism not magnetic thats my recomendation alot of the times you will be picking fallen hex bits because it gets stuck in screws bought the dewalt and its pretty cool to use
Thanks to your channel I got the Denali screwdriver, and coupled with the "bicycle set" version of the Wera Toolcheck Plus, they have to be my most used daily driver tool combo. I'm nose deep into a collection of 3D printers and computers most evenings and they make life much easier.
I have use the dewalt in the past. It’s really good for skid plates when paired with the right angle attachment. Only the ford raptor skid plates it’s can’t do. You should test snap ons screwdriver when you do piston grips. Let me know if you need one!
Wanted to share that the Denali just dies, stops taking charge. Noted a lot in Amazon reviews (I learned after the fact). Thanks for putting this together
I've dropped mine out of an attic and knock it off a shed twice, all on concrete and it's still going strong. At $20 if it randomly dies in a couple years I'll happily just buy another one.
I have a gyroscope screwdriver that is made by craftsman (model CMCF604) that was discontinued about 2 years ago. It is honestly my most used "power tool." It's rated at 48-inch pounds, which may not seem like much, but when reinstalling sometimes over 100 fasteners a day, it's more than adequate.
The dewalt won me over the first time I put together a server rack… those little black screws are Carpal tunnel city and funky angles make the swivel dewalt my favorite tool.
Ive been using the craftsman electric 4v screwdriver for around 3 years now as a locksmith. I have to say as far as durability of the tool goes it has been amazing and has never let me down yet. That being said im very surprised that it came in last place for torque and well everything lol. So i just bought the Denali screwdriver which now says Amazon basics skil screwdriver "formally known as denali" so time to put it to the test and see how it goes!! Im hoping it does just as good and better then the Craftsman! If not ive thought bout getting the dewalt screwdriver but i really don't want something that big.
I wish you guys tested the Dremel 4V Cordless Screwdriver. It has a clutch that IMO works really well for sensitive tasks. Also you can activate it either by button or by pushing down into the screw.
Hello, i have experienced to not trust the battery specs on the side, but to open them up. I bought an aliexpress one claimed at 4.2v/1500 mAh, when opened up there was only a 4.2v/300 mAh 14500 battery in it. That's a huge difference. I managed to squeeze an 18650 4,2v/2500mAh battery in, and you can feel the difference even when you squeeze the trigger unloaded. The Denali seems to best bang for the buck. Regards
Used the Dewalt a lot working for naa gun manufacturing. It worked fantastic, and the gyroscopic feature became so helpful and much preferred it to our the other options. It allowed me to build so much faster.
The ranking is weighted towards performance since it's something we can test and show you that you can't just google. But we hear ya, if you guys want to see more we can likely divide test time by 2 or something. And if your criteria is based on size & price that totally makes sense, but then you probably don't need to watch a testing video :D
Swappable battery is also easily replaceable. As batteries are a wear item, I'd say that's a large advantage.
I’m happy with how you scored the results
I'm fine with the way you score them. Performance(quality, reliability, feeling) is the most important thing I come to you for. Size and price are the things I weight myself. So when going down your list, I pick the ones that meet my price/size and then you have them sorted by performance/reliability.
I think having the notes on replaceable batteries and et al. that others have commented is cool. But in so far as the ranking goes, your criteria is good, people who have different needs can also quickly understand and take what they want from the rankings and video.
@@ENIGMAFIEDodds are you'll never find a replacement battery by the time the one it comes with burns out unless you're power using.
Thanks TTC. I’m sick of dragging around my corded brushed screwdriver.
No one has time to be dragging around that 220V!
@@TorqueTestChanneland needing to find three-phase power on site can be a nightmare.
@TorqueTestChannel ya gotta attach it to your welding cart duh.
@@RAD-RC Oh dang, just changed my whole PC assembly game!
as the owner of a literal corded, brushed screwdriver (Aimco electra) with a bigger powerbrick than my old Thinkpad you don't know how right you are!
Being a tradesman that has tested several powered screwdrivers, I have the Dewalt and I've had it since it came out. Ths is my most used tool by a longshot. This little thing is a war machine for it's size. Not because of it's power or speed, but because with some practice using the gyroscopic tech it can offer the same amount of finesse as a manual screwdriver. It has taken dozens of pretty significant falls, been dropped in a bucket of water, and used to break loose screws that were entirely too tight for it. If it died tomorrow I'd go buy another before running the next service call. I let the owner of our company play with it and he liked it so much he bought all the road techs one for Christmas with a matching bit set.
I've been doing solar for roughly 10 years and have had mine dealt one for about 8 of that. I resonate completely with your comment. It really punches above it's weight for being a screwdriver. Mine is the older one that can be straight or pistol grip, kinda bummed they went away from that design.
@@angelophillips5334 I actually have 3 of them. The one that converts to a pistol grip was great until the latch mechanism got weak and would twist around at random. It lives on my workbench now in the garage.
I have the craftsman gyroscopic for the same reason. Dealing with smaller fasteners or delicate materials makes precision crucial. My one-speed screwdrivers just don’t have the control to trust with every application.
But have you tried the Makita...?
agreed, first time I've seen this Dewalt. my fave electric screwdriver is actually a Makita drill because it can go really slow and variable speed. It has a clutch, and light. Only that it it is too big for some jobs. The cost of that Dewalt though...
Denali making a decent tool is frankly a major surprise
Buy your lotto tickets today boys!
@@TorqueTestChannel
There's a german saying that fits this situation rather well - "Auch ein blindes huhn findet mal ein korn" translates literally to "even a blind chicken sometimes finds a kernel of corn" or: sometimes, even denali makes an amazing tool.
Thought you might get a kick out of this
ps.: cordless soldering irons when?
@APF3LKUCH3NLP Cordless soldering iron? If they compare these, they need to compare butane ones and those as-seen-on-TV cold soldering irons. I'd get a huge kick out of comparing them to standard electric soldering irons.
Great out of the box, but this isn't exactly testing its long-term survivability.
@@SvdSinnergas is much more natural to create heat with than electricity. It can also be more compact. Also the butane ones are usually 3 in 1 heat gun , solder and torch functions. I really can't see the advantage of a batt model.
This testing omitted an important ability: the maximum torque that can be applied manually before the internal gearing gives way and starts turning. Using my battery screwdriver (a Flip Out) I remove a stuck screw by first breaking it loose manually then powering it out the rest of the way. Cheers.
The dewalt gyro is my favorite tool. It can drive a #10 screw into plywood or be delicate enough to install electrical face plates without cracking them. Everyone I let try mine ends up buying one. The gyro becomes intuitive after you use it for 20 minutes
That exactly what u want one for mind numbing amounts of faceplates
I love mine too! I have the G2 version with clutch, it's the best for small screws!
Faceplate screws so long! a delicate dance with too much power exploding that plastic
that would definitely be the clutched model. I've been one for years now, and I can't imagine mine not having the clutch.
You guys slept on the 7.2v makita pen impact driver. Delicate as can be, I also bought it for devicing jobs out. But as soon as I discovered it can drive tapcons I ditched my full size impacts (leave them on the truck) and my screwdrivers (except my beater flat head of course) and now it rides in my tool pouch talking pretty much all of my work on commercial sites. I rough in with it, metal or wood studs, i make up panels with it, and I device with it. I only get my big impact out for hanging outdoor disconnects or wallpacks or anything requiring a lot of tapcons. It became my favorite tool ever, really fast.
I'd like to see a comparison of how each of them handles fine torque requirements. As in, which one is best at not blowing out plastic threads on a battery door or other fragile things like that.
Models with clutchs. Torque consistency, speed, power and finesse. My go to is the Makita 7.2V screwdriver. Expensive, but the best range screwdriver that delivers low torque control. I hope there's something better out there, the models are well over 15 years old and still expensive. I have a bosch go2 as well. The clutch isn't as nice, less power but worse on delicate threads.
My anecdotal evidence is that the Metabo HPT screwdriver has a pretty good clutch, although it doesn't quite go low enough for super tiny screws, like a #0 or #1 into a plastic boss
DeWalt gyro has a very good low range clutch, at the lowest torque setting you can hardly even feel the reaction torque on the tool
I own the DeWalt. The gyroscopic switch works similar to the normal trigger on a impact, in that it's not all or nothing. If you twist the screwdriver less, it turns slower. Sorry, I'm hopped up on pain meds with a broken arm right now, some having a hard time wording my statements correctly
This!!
the bosch model i have i use for RC cars with small screws being screwed into plastic has awesome torque adjustability. never striped anything since buying it
I have had both dewalts. The right angle one with the clutch is a godsend for working on RC cars and drones. Never strip any more machine screws into plastic again! I still don't understand why rc car companies use machine screws for plastic parts anyways.
Hey dude I've been looking at getting into RC stuff, do you know of any other tools that make the hobby easier?
Proud to have worked on the DeWalt gyro drive team during development of the original original straight/pistol swivel design. Twist control was a friend's experiment that ended up working way more intuitively than I really expected. Love them, and still have a couple preproduction/customer return units at home that get weekly use around the house and on automotive interior fasteners.
Thank you for your service, It's my favorite tool!
I have found that the availability of "selectable torque" is a real useful function on such small powered screwdrivers.
Its a hand screwdriver? Just let your hand do fine adjustment, unless you are talking about the precision electric torque screwdrivers.
@@Teajam It's a power screwdriver. An adjustable clutch would be a good thing. I don't know that any of them are going to overtighten a screw though.
I have the swivel 8v dewalt (DCF680N2) and it's honestly great!! I love that little thing!! Done plenty of questionable jobs with it too 😅😅 can be used as a drill with the right bits!
i have the same thing
@@samoua9846 Me 3 great tool.
Best money I've spent on a tool! Mine is coming up on 5 years and still going strong. Being able to hot swap batteries is worth the extra $$
Yep, my favorite driver. Torque/ratchet collar makes it much more versatile than the stick style brother. Pistol mode is much more intuitive/comfortable than the stick mode as well. I keep it in my toolbelt for electrical, and the little bit clip holds a SQ1, flathead, and combo Philips/R2 bit (Bosch).
I have that Hoto screwdriver and have yet to find any "basic" household needs that it didn't have the torque or speed for, I really like it! These types of screwdrivers really aren't meant to be craftsman's workhorses or on-site tools but rather something in your household handyman toolbox that can potentially replace several other drivers, and it does just that...with style :)
What's really nice about the DeWalt is that it's also suitable for more delicate work: for small screws you can sort of grip it more loosely so that it forces your hand back when the appropriate torque is reached, and then it stops. Best purchase I've made recently.
I'm not sure what the difference is between that and any of the other ones. I have the Ryobi one and I can do the same thing
I’ve had the DeWalt one for years and I love it. Super handy for laptop disassembly/reassembly and no stripped screws or carpal tunnel! The charger is pretty well known to be junk though. Lots of failures when these first came out, hope they are better now.
Do you find the DeWalt kind of bulky? That is my only concern on the DeWalt. ROI is everything..... price of tools is far less than lost productivity. I have not had a cordless (powered) precision screwdriver since my old Skill Twist died, years ago.
@@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 I don't think it's any more bulky than I would expect... it's comfortable to use. If it's worth your cost will be subjective I guess - I only paid about $40 for mine used so the cost was not much of a factor.
There's a lot of support here for DeWalt and I'll add that having the removable battery is a big plus. If you're doing any volume of work, when the battery runs out you can't sit around waiting for a recharge - you just put in a fresh battery. The gyro action takes about 10 seconds to get used to and you soon feel like you couldn't live without it. When I bought my DeWalt I got the screwdriver, a charger, 2 batteries, and a bag for $99. To me it's worth every penny.
I bought my Dewalt a few years ago at Christmas time so it was on sale and a different model. It came with 2 batteries, charger, the screwdriver which has a torque setting ring and folds 90 degrees. The 2 batteries keep me moving thru the day. Still running strong.
I bought the pivoting pistol grip version of the Dewalt around 8 years ago, then bought the straight version 5 years ago, then bought another straight version 3 years ago.
They’re kept in different work benches and one in my trusty Veto Pro Pack… I absolutely love those little Dewalt’s. Once you figure them out you’ll never reach for a regular screwdriver of any size again, yep.. they’ll even handle very small and delicate screws/nuts/bolts in electronics, its as delicate as you can be.
Lastly, it’ll drill nice holes with a set of those hex drive drill bits.
A note on button positioning - a lot of the time these screwdrivers are used for taking tiny screws out of electronics and other small devices, so you often end up working on a desk and holding the tool with the butt facing up and the drive facing down - like if you were going to stab someone with it. When you do that the buttons sit perfectly where your thumb is.
interesting analogy...
😁Stab-Optimized Ergonomics@@-opus
Exactly why the "normal screwdriver" silhouette/conversion ability is important, in my mind. I'm not always in a place where I can pistol-grip a screwdriver.
I won the DeWalt at a tradeshow 4-5 years ago and laughed at the idea of a power screwdriver.. Nope it rocks and I use it all the time. Mainly as a 3/8-10mm or less nut driver. The battery lasts seemingly forever and the twist to activate is so natural.
great video TTC, back in the 1990 i bought my first house , then bought my first cordless drill and screwdriver ,both Black and Decker , this was a very old home that still had tube and knob wiring and glass fuses, an old 2 storey house that had 40 amp service and a separate circuit for an electric water heater, so both tools got allot of workouts, the screwdriver was 3.6 volts with a flexible handle w/charger & 2 batteries, it rocked, the house had 23 windows and i installed new blinds on everyone one of them using it and used it as a drill to, i bought a bit package for it from B&D for $10 and used like 1 battery and a bit to complete it, i was impressed and it went on to be my go to tool back then, I started a part time gig installing new blinds on the side for a number of companies for a few yers, it was great you needed very few tools i had it all in a old medicine shaped tool bag that i bought a sling strap for, it worked great for me and even did some Christmas light hanging for people with it, those drill bit kits were awesome and took up no space , i think this being Prime Day I'll go buy the Skid Twist 2.0 , thx Cool Video 👍
I ended up buying the Denali for me to work on car interiors (speakers and stereos), and the Hoto for my wife to have a "power tool" to put together furniture with.
I must say, the Denali is fantastic. Enough power and torque to break small nuts, screws and bolts free, but not enough to break plastic.
In my opinion, worth EVERY penny.
Thanks for another great review.
Would love to see a part 2 to this with the Dremel/Bosch Go 2, The various Vessel screwdrivers and the Makita td022dzo. The Makita wouldn't be apples to apples but would like to see how it stacks up!
I had the Bosch Go original with the electronic clutch and it sucked. Then it died when pushing down didn't switch it on. I only had it for a few months.
Should probably test one from fantik as well.
@@Utuber-x44 I had the first gen Dremel( same as bosch) and it lasted me for 4 years until it wouldn't hold a charge. Upgraded to the Gen 2 Dremel and it's OK but honestly liked the Gen 1 better. Feels like the Gen 1 would keep turning on things the Gen 2 gets hung up on.
The metabo hpt also
Now I just want to see a Dremel/rotary tool comparison
The Dewalt GYRO is one of the absolute most handy drills ever invented for camera installers or electricians, or similar tasks. Make it better, add the Makita E-03442 Impact Premier Mag Boost. You will wonder why you never bought this to begin with. Takes a small learning curve, but then you are addicted. It's so wonderful in awkward positions also.
I'd like to see the harbor freight 4v hybrid 2 position screwdriver tested, I'm sure it's not the best available but being able to change from a straight to angled is pretty neat and the $20 price tag isn't bad either.
It’s not bad but I have that and the walmart hypertough trigger style 4.8 volt and actually prefer that one. Go figure
I've got the same one but badged as Mastercraft, I quite like it.
I have the Dewalt here at my work and have had it for a few years and it just works. I love it.
Thank you!
Love my Dewalt gyro driver for Ikea puzzles. It’s straight shot handle helps get perpendicular, but I’d love a Two position handle 😎
They have one! It rotates to a pistol grip
@typewriterman1068 and it has a clutch. Fantastic tool top of its class.
These two top companies ( TTI and Stanley-Black&Decker will often have many brands and models, so each retail box store can have a different product, and no price-matching.@@typewriterman1068
The throw my vote in for the DeWalt. Nothing to do with name brand but I've owned one for years The slightly bigger one with the handle that locks at 90°. Easier on your wrist I've used it for thousands of laptop repairs.
Something not mentioned is the DeWalt model I have has a torque setting which is really nice for setting fasteners and not stripping screws in plastic
I was shocked how good the Denali was, I got it because the Ryobi twist version was so big in my bag... would love to see the Vessel and similar brands like Panasonic and generics too. I wasn't willing to pay for the jacked up $$ on the Vessel but have been happy with a generic version so far.
Im a locksmith, and we use the 8v dewalt daily, except ours can be transformed to a pistol grip. It is phenomenal to take off the small fateners we use, and the omes we have have a clutch to keep from overtightening hardware as well. The swappable battery is great as well.
This was a nice deviation from your normal content, which I enjoy. I never considered getting a power screwdriver because I thought they were junk. I'm giving it some thought now.
For $25, why not?
The pistol style ones are generally a better buy, imo, as long as you’re not working in seriously tight places. They tend to be more powerful for the price.
Gotta mention NoCry’s electric screwdriver, because it’s crazy inexpensive for how powerful and feature rich it is.
The gyroscopic thing with DeWalt is amazing. There is a bigger one with torque settings and it can be straight or like a pistol grip. It's so good.
Hey TTC! As a rock climbing route builder I'd love to see more on SDS hammer drills. Weight and power are very important to us!
I have the DeWALT version that twists between a pistol grip and straight grip, and it's actually been fantastic. It's got just enough power to act as a small drill in a pinch, and handles lots of big rackmount screws without breaking a sweat. And yeah, the gyroscope is surprisingly intuitive.
The Vessel model would be interesting considering its size. I use one for interior stuff at work so that I don't break anything and it's been great for that.
The dewalt 8v gyroscopic model I have can switch from pistol grip to inline- I use it daily in the HVAC field and it will drive 5/16 self tapping screws in sheet metal I love it
Back in the 80s when I was prepping/repairing PCs, often lining them up for large orders, I actually liked a weaker power screwdriver since these were all machine screws in the chassis. That worked out well, since every piece of junk power screwdriver back then was pretty weak.
Exactly..... high speed is not even desirable... ideal for some uses, low to moderate speed and no camming out when screw is set.
A few years ago I purchased the pivoting DeWalt screw driver, and it was love at first screw type of thing. Until today I prefer using it over a manual screw driver for any quick and indoor job that I come across.
It was definitely a fun comparison and worth watching, but I think this class of tools is more about the less tangible usability issues than the easier to measure specs.
I have an ancient Black&Decker one. It's relatively large, and I replaced the original Ni-Cd battery with Eneloop Ni-MHs. Runs great, ideal for assembling my windsurfing material, as it's just strong enough to tighten the fin screws with the appropriate torque. Works great for hard to reach screws too, especially in furniture.
I've had the worx for over a year and it's been pretty good, I scrapped an old Skil which was pretty cheap quality but lasted like 8 years and had some torque albeit slow, it was a mini pistol with cheap forward reverse and even cheaper trigger which ultimately was it's demise. Once you put the Worx case in your tool bag you realize that a mini impact pretty much is a better choice but around the house the worx still is pretty decent on small stuff.
From an electricians stand point I'm looking for speed instead of torque because 90% of what I want to use this on is fine thread residential crap and if I need to torque it it's going to be a regular screwdriver. So my question is what's the best speed vs. size and which has replaceable batteries?
Would love to see the DCF601 in the mix someday :) I like that form factor of screwdriver best, especially with the adjustable clutch and enough beans to actually drive screws and bigger things. I have it and the older version, both used all the time!
Dcf601 would dominate this lineup, for what they are used for.
I used the previous model with the torque clutch a lot. To me it is all about torque control. I deal with a lot o smaller stuff. Try doing screws in plastic with these.
My favourite application; electric panels. You can torque all screws with a clutch model to the same spec in a couple of minutes. Fine adjustment of the low torque range is key. Drills and impact drivers are for high torque application.
I'd be interest in a comparison of cordless screwdrivers with clutches. The range of the clutching, the accuracy of the clutching. Maybe compare it against an industrial torque screwdriver.
A friend showed me his newest tool about 5 years ago, a Ryobi 4v pistol grip job which would drive in a 3.5" deck screw to the head! I got one, too. It's my go-to drill driver in the house. In the shop, I have either a full size Milwaukee drill driver or impactor. I have missed my old (Satanley or Black&DeckerPeckerWrecker, I forget.) electric screwdriver I used when building computers. I do enough small work that the Denali will likely make its way into my tool set once the Amazon points stack up to 24 ducats worth. RE: the switch, I often hold the little electric screwdrivers driver side down in my hand and the switch would work fine for that style. Thanks for the testing, guys. I like your channel.
this is exactly why your channel is so valuable. of course the dewalt would win with the volts and price, but we could never have guessed the denali would be the champ and at the best price
thank you for your work!
Every once in a while, the off-brand item is superb.... but when you want to get another, it is gone. My FAVORITE utility knife was an "Apollo", bought at Krogers supermarket... they had a cardboard dump-bin of 2 or 3 assorted tools.... 5.99 each... Should have gotten a few dozen for gifts. FAR better than even the top price Milwaukee or Stanley-DeWalt. Same with a knockoff Dremel ( corded ) the off brand one ios FAR better than the REAL "Dremel" one from Robert Bosch.
I have the DeWalt and love it. I'm in the IT field and use it nearly every day. One feature that I think you should have brought up was the clutch, as this enables it to be used for very delicate tasks as well as tougher task that you showed. When reassembling an electronic device that has 30+ screws that fasten into a plastic frame the clutch is priceless. Also as you showed it handles tougher tasks very well. I've even bought a second one to keep as a spare when this one inevitably dies. Oh and the DeWalt has another mode just like the one you showed except that it can change between the straight driver to a pistole grip driver and also has the same gyro activation. Absolutely love the DeWalt gyro screw drivers.
It doesn't have a clutch.
This model doesn’t have a clutch, but the model that can switch to a pistol grip does have a clutch. I use mine everyday too (computer repair technician)
The question then also becomes "how many replacement Denalis do you have to buy before the DeWalt dies for good."
That would be for the AvE Channel. Torque Test Channel is for the immediate, testable features. Lifespan of each would be a 5 year process.
AvE?
Got my DeWalt on father's day for $60, I love the thing, my line of work we have to assemble and dissemble racks and other furniture type things that require a screwdriver or Allen key and it comes in so clutch.
I have the Dewalt and absolutely love it. There are kits available where you get 2 batteries, but the single battery lasts so long, it isn't really necessary. You really need another category for these cordless screwdrivers though, and that's coolness. This is where the Dewalt would totally win, because it's basically magic with the gyroscopic thingy.
I have the DeWalt. I remember when I first got it and just being blown away by how intuitive it was an how well it worked.
Awesome! No one else is doing this. You should throw the Bauer and Hart options in next. I own both and use them. They are both fantastic but use a proprietary charger. Might have to look into the Denali for better charging.
I have an older version of a Skil driver, and it doesn't have that much torque, but it's still my favorite tool ever. I love the thing. It's so intuitive.
my old favorite, the ring near the collet makes it Very easy to use from any angle!
The metabo pistol and straight driver should have been included for a reference. It's clutch makes it very useful on sensitive equipment.
Yeah, I really wish they would have included both the metabo and the Milwaukee versions. They’re both very similar, but a few differences, and the metabo is cheaper than the dewalt they did include with better features and a far better control scheme IMO.
Eight years ago I bought a Dewalt 8V screwdriver with the gyroscopic feature and I love how that works!
Recently bought 2 of the Worx Kits at Sam's Club for $19.99 each. With the various bits and holders in the kit I think it is a better choice over the Denali, in spite of the latter's slightly better battery and run time. Lots of room for additional bits and sockets in the case, BTW. Thanks for making this useful content.
I've used the Milwaukee for years at work. The best thing about it is that it fits in my tool pouch and runs for a long time with plenty of torque. It was expensive, however, but worth it.
Link plz
Maybe work runtime into the mix?
I have the dewalt that bends and has the clutch also. It’s a great tool. You don’t have to twist quickly to get it to move quickly. It follows the start point and about 90° from there is full speed. I bought it so I could hand it to my son and not over tighten screws on a pc build.
Great stuff. I was hoping for the upgraded pistol/straight style Ryobi. I'm curious if they are different in power.
I love my DeWalt 8v screwdriver, the one I have has a clutch on it. I also want to mention that I got two 8v battery, a charger, a bag, and it came with a clutch. It was only 24 dollars more than the one you have on screen. It is beautiful for doing door hardware...
No 7.2V Makita drill? :). The Makita 7.2V impact driver is pretty cool.
Sure. Got myself the Makita TD022DSE but it costs 'a bit' more than the ones tested here.
No thanks. you can buy 8 Denali's for the Makita's price.
I've had that same Dewalt for almost seven years now and it's a beast. It doesn't take you long to get used to the gyroscope and it's sensitive enough to power three inch wood screws into 2x4s or gently put machine screws back into plastic. It's great
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyy TTC delivered!
Shout out to this guy! And all our viewers!
@@TorqueTestChannel great video! "go buy the cheapest one from the Amazon house brand if you want performance" is a surprise, to put it mildly, and a pretty good case study on the value of y'alls work!
Is it the man himself? Still got that Ushanka?
@@zendell37 how are you still alive 💀
Another great video. You are the go to guys. Was going to get the Denali on Amazon but saw that my local Lowes had the Skil twist in stock and being an instant gratification guy, I went down to the store to get one (since I am only looking for something for small jobs where my Milwaukee M12 impact driver is overkill). While they said they had 6 in stock, they were out. The selling price was $19.00. I asked the Lowes guy to double check their inventory and he said they were sold out. He said that they normally carry the DeWalt you featured but couldn't find it on their website. We looked in the locked cabinet and sure enough they had 3 in stock at a clearance price of $62.50. While it is a bit chunky and "double" the size of the others you reviewed, at that price I said, "What the heck" and got it. Charging the battery as I write and it will be interesting to see how the gyro feature works.
To be honest, the smaller impact drivers have taken the place of these things for me. Anything that needs finesse I just use the ol manual screwdriver.
I personally use the 12v cxt brushless Makita impact driver, the auto mode has plenty of control for delicate screws and it still has plenty of power for 3/8 size fasteners.
I got life-changing news for you, the 7.2v Makita TD022 is both a screwdriver and an impact driver. I loved my subcompact Makita impact driver same as you do but the TD022 will blow your mind. I bought one more to be sure my favourite tool was always around, now i can leave one in the car and still have one in the shop. Still using my subcompact impact driver from time to time but the TD022 is now my go-to tool for pretty much everything.
Only critique is no mention of variable speed. I had the old Makita 7.2 and the difference in usability between it and even the ancient 7.2v nicad cordless screwdriver was huge. The gyroscopic dewalt is great for stuff like swapping electrical devices. Give it a bit and finish by hand. I’ve driven at least 1 5/8 Sheetrock screws with it.
I think these tests miss the point of these electric screwdrivers. If I need torque, I'd use a driver. For the rest, I want something small, and as similar to a regular screwdriver as possible for ease of handling/use, that can turn fast on screws that don't need a lot of torque. Like when you're working on computer equipment, or lots of electrical switches, receptables, etc.
Then you probably dont need to see any testing if your sole criteria is size we feel.
This.
TLDR: size and cost are quite important, but there is such a thing as too weak as well, so maybe just a bit more balance in the score?
I agree, I have the craftsman and love it since it goes in my electrical bag just like my normal screwdriver, but will put receptacle/switch screws in much quicker than doing it by hand. However, I also see the benefit of at least a minimum acceptable amount of torque. When using it on metal boxes, it's perfectly fine. However, plastic boxes where the screws are cutting their threads, it will occasionally bog down. My all-time favorite that doesn't fit in the bag as well and isn't made anymore is the black and decker gyro. Button is on the back and it has a very comfortable t-grip style handle and a touch more power than the craftsman. The gyro mechanism is perfect for applying only the amount of force necessary for the fastener. However, it is hampered by a proprietary charger that is also not manufactured anymore. A USB port would have been so much more convenient.
I use a Panasonic cordless, and a bunch of workmates love them too, it has an adjustable clutch on it which is great for the sub 2mm screws i generally use it for (and tapping 2mm holes!)
Awesome video. I have the craftsman precisely because of its lack of torque. It will never strip screws or damage boards. It will never over tighten and dimple mud rings on drywall, because it can't.
I have a Black and Decker A7073 alkaline powered screw driver that I won in a raffle at work over 10 years ago. It has loads of torque for its size and has never failed. I’ve even used it to drive wood screws through 5/8” mdf and particle board. Since its an infrequently used tool the expense of 4 aa cells is worth the convenicence of knowing its at full power when I need it.
Great electric screwdriver review. Please do a handheld black light next, it's useful for spotting scorpions at night. Thank you!
I have a Craftsman one that works like the Dewalt and I find the controls intuitive once you start working with it. No switches or triggers to control direction, just squeeze and treat it like a handlebar throttle and twist it the way you want it to go. Can quickly loosen or tighten a small amount to by letting go of the button and use it like a manual driver.
HVAC Guy tech here, had the worx driver since it came out love the thing most used tool by far. For repair and diagnostics of things great tool.
Low-torque screwdrivers have their place. Many consumer products consist of plastic half-shells joined together with metal screws. Disassembling these is no problem, but putting them back together often resultsvin several holes stripped of their threads.
I once used a low-torque driver that was perfect for reassembling a coffee machine with a few dozen screws back together without ruining any of the threads.
I have the Worx one, and it's pretty impressive. Far more twist than I was expecting. Great battery life too.
I love my Dewalt gyroscopic screwdriver. I got mine after a wrist surgery three years ago and I haven’t stopped using it yet .
I remodeled an entire kitchen with my DeWalt using it for cabinet assembly as well as screwing into the wall studs. That was some years ago and I still use it regularly for anything that doesn’t need an impact driver such as deck screws and construction screws etc. one of my best buys in tools. I have the one with the angled handle capability.
Regarding cordless screwdrivers, I know some techs would use them to do simple things like remove or install screws for faceplates (think telecom work, like phone and data jacks in a commercial office). Sometimes faceplates are screwed into nothing more than a metal 'caddy' ring in the drywall wall and there's basically no resistance in that case, but sometimes they're screwed into plastic boxes mounted in the wall or floor and THOSE are the times you wish you had a cordless screwdriver to speed things up because those often have lots of resistance when installing or removing a screw for the faceplate. Carrying around an impact driver or drill driver isn't always practical for an installer/tech in the case where you're just dealing with faceplates all day long. A cordless screwdriver is much more handy and practical. It's a big time saver. They have enough torque to deal with those plastic boxes but are still small and fast AND they still fit into your tool pouch on your tool belt.
Found the skil for 20 and I don't regret spending it at all is good for electrical trim out. It does not tighten everything but I rather have that extra small hand tightening . It doesn't hold drill bits well but I made it work with a extender and some contacts glue
In case anyone is interested in the Denali driver, it is even cheaper right now at $17.60. Not sure if that would move it to a higher ranking, but makes it more appealing for me to give it a shot! Great video as always TTC!
As an electrician I had suffered from tennis elbow & was told not to be on my tools by my doctor. The DeWalt 8v gyroscopic screwdriver allowed me to continue work without putting stress on my arm. I have used it ever since then & now own four, one for around the house, one for my hobbies (RC cars & building computers), one for work & one spare.I am rarely seen on the jobsite without my DeWalt by my side (perfect for fit outs & panel work).
I bought a Dremel branded screwdriver for $30, supposedly the same as the Bosch on a dumb impulse buy..
I've never used it.
The only use I can see for it is an assembly production job but I doubt the battery would last 1/2 a shift or even an hour..
Now for screw drivers and fancy handles like the snap-on and its torque clames. Even ones with the helper spot for wrenches. How much can the do before caming out
Surprising results on that one for sure! There is another detail I personally would find helpful to be compared, and that is, how reliable and strong is the auto-locking shaft when you do have to manually break loose a fastener too much for the motor? I find especially on these drivers, but also on drills there is a great variance in the quality of this function. Thanks again for all you do, great video as always!
I have owned the Dewalt for a few years now. Rock-solid reliable and I'm an 'ol'Fud' and when I first 'played' with the gyro switch, my thoughts were, 'This new-fangled tomfoolery.' Now, you may have my Dewalt, when you pry it from my old, arthritic hands.
Great comparison! That Denali shock my socks off. But, man I love my DeWalt driver like that. The speed and torque of it is amazing. The precision of the gyro is impressive. I have the DCF68ON2 at work that has the clutch setting, adjustable handle and comes with 2 batteries. I got lucky with the one I use on my home workbench (DCF682N1). I bought it as tool only from the local flea market for $25 and bought an aftermarket battery for it. I can't say enough how much it saves my wrist as much tools etc. that I disassemble. It's super quick and a real carpal tunnel saver for sure! Thanks for sharing this test data with is. It was very interesting.
I worked in a CNC machining department for an automotive manufacturer and I used one of those ryobi screw drivers to do quality checks on tapped holes. It worked pretty well all things considered. Upper management was pretty happy about the cost as well.
You should test the makita impact screwdriver. It looks to be about the same size as the milwaukee, but it impacts
always get one with bits locking mechanism not magnetic
thats my recomendation
alot of the times you will be picking fallen hex bits because it gets stuck in screws
bought the dewalt and its pretty cool to use
Thanks to your channel I got the Denali screwdriver, and coupled with the "bicycle set" version of the Wera Toolcheck Plus, they have to be my most used daily driver tool combo. I'm nose deep into a collection of 3D printers and computers most evenings and they make life much easier.
I have use the dewalt in the past. It’s really good for skid plates when paired with the right angle attachment. Only the ford raptor skid plates it’s can’t do. You should test snap ons screwdriver when you do piston grips. Let me know if you need one!
Wanted to share that the Denali just dies, stops taking charge. Noted a lot in Amazon reviews (I learned after the fact). Thanks for putting this together
I've dropped mine out of an attic and knock it off a shed twice, all on concrete and it's still going strong. At $20 if it randomly dies in a couple years I'll happily just buy another one.
I have a gyroscope screwdriver that is made by craftsman (model CMCF604) that was discontinued about 2 years ago. It is honestly my most used "power tool." It's rated at 48-inch pounds, which may not seem like much, but when reinstalling sometimes over 100 fasteners a day, it's more than adequate.
The dewalt won me over the first time I put together a server rack… those little black screws are Carpal tunnel city and funky angles make the swivel dewalt my favorite tool.
Ive been using the craftsman electric 4v screwdriver for around 3 years now as a locksmith. I have to say as far as durability of the tool goes it has been amazing and has never let me down yet. That being said im very surprised that it came in last place for torque and well everything lol. So i just bought the Denali screwdriver which now says Amazon basics skil screwdriver "formally known as denali" so time to put it to the test and see how it goes!! Im hoping it does just as good and better then the Craftsman! If not ive thought bout getting the dewalt screwdriver but i really don't want something that big.
I wish you guys tested the Dremel 4V Cordless Screwdriver. It has a clutch that IMO works really well for sensitive tasks. Also you can activate it either by button or by pushing down into the screw.
Hello, i have experienced to not trust the battery specs on the side, but to open them up. I bought an aliexpress one claimed at 4.2v/1500 mAh, when opened up there was only a 4.2v/300 mAh 14500 battery in it.
That's a huge difference. I managed to squeeze an 18650 4,2v/2500mAh battery in, and you can feel the difference even when you squeeze the trigger unloaded.
The Denali seems to best bang for the buck. Regards
Used the Dewalt a lot working for naa gun manufacturing. It worked fantastic, and the gyroscopic feature became so helpful and much preferred it to our the other options. It allowed me to build so much faster.
I have had the makita 7.2v screw driver for over a decade, still going strong.