There was a time when we did trust - or at least listened to what they had to say. It is the fault of the industry that we can no longer consider them reliable.
@@cybertramon0012 Although it's besides your point, in hindsight they didn't deserve our trust when we did trust them either, when they did stuff like being unreasonably negative about japanese games during the 2000s.
@@inendlesspain4724 That's the thing there was a very short period of time really where game journalists were real and we're actually fans first and not activists cosplaying as actual journalists. Yes there was always some level of biases but you could always find someone who is a little less biased. Now that simply does not exist.
Imagine being hired, literally eveywhere, and when they ask you to do your job, you freak out calling everybody a racist and fascist. Everyday, we stray far away from God.
@@darkoraclegirl4570 God is the Form of the Good, the Good as apprehensible by the Intellect is Truth, and madness is the inability to perceive Truth. So…same difference.
>Games journalists are not out to get you Hey, remember when all the big sites coordinated and put out near identical headlines along the lines of "Gamers don't need to be your audience" all within the span of a few days.
Oppressed feels like a strong word to describe gamers. Mocked, derided, scorned, belittled, rejected, these feel like better terms for what's been happening. Keep in mind, the gaming industry died once already because of bad games. I refuse to believe it won't happen again, even if this time it's just triple A.
0:04 trust is earn, not given; their is also the default of trust, but when we’re being lied over and over again and dehumanize for having a common sense argument like “what’s wrong liking women” or “Why is this character objectively uglified both in appearance or in personality” or “why is this beloved character for a long time being destroy or degrade their character”
Journalists from the Gamer called us cowards and other names for not siding with them on Hogwarts Legacy. The Gamer, Kotaku, IGN and their ilk can get bent.
they are supposed to have it easy, talk about the story of the game, the characters, the gameplay, the graphics, etc, and they don't have to add their own personal agenda and political view, but they do it anyway
But Hell Michigan freezes over at least twice a year. Sorry, joking. Still, set your standards a little higher. The last circle of Hell in Dante's Inferno was suppoed to be a frozen wasteland if I recall correctly.
That trilogy is purely fictional, he made it as a self insert to say how righteous he was and how the current Catholic Church in his time wasn’t following god and will be sent to hell, such as the frozen pope in the last circle of hell. Not that they aren’t good books it just isn’t biblical or accurate.
@@kyodante The parent company handed down that edict, and the gaming journo companies' parent companies actually have been doing things that would make sense and possibly profit -- in Kotaku's case it might actually be that they're in that awkward spot where they're on a pretty skeletal staff...but not so close to the expected pink slip party that they can just move it up. (Their parent company's been selling off their various media sites, none of which seem to have kept any staff along for the ride & one of which didn't sell until after it'd been already shut down and the staff laid off, indicating that the STAFF were the reason it couldn't be sold.)
I caught that memory error as well, but that sentiment should be applied by IGN management if they wanted to be customer facing product instead of an advertising selling product. Unfortunately they view the corporations as their customers, not the gamers.
Technically, they didn't. It's why they're looking for a new editor in chief. The writing team refused to do it and kept writing what they wanted. And then the job posting is full of DEI jargon and buzzwords.
Back in the days of Nintendo Power, PSM, and EGM, game journalists were gamers just like us. Being a game journalists was considered a dream job for gamers. Oh well. Gone are those days.
IT's because all of the failures that couldn't get jobs at CNN decided to use videogame journalism as their fall back. So a bunch of non gamers flooded these places, and worst of all they dind't even like video games or want to write articles about them. They wanted to write articles about "stuff that mattered" which is how you got shit like that Ps5 review which after the first paragraph went "But how can I appreciate this console when there is no much wrong with the world" and the rest of the article was them just climbing on their soapbox to rant about stuff. The sad part is their selfish ranting is probably why CNN didn't hire them either, as bad as these news outlets are ... they do need their journalists to stay on topic for whatever article they are working on. But they don't at all realize this and act like the world is against them. Some of them even proudly declare their articles piss people off as they've deluded themself into thinking they "shook up the status quo" so they think of themselves as heroes.
I wonder how these activist game journalist even get these jobs in the first place. They don’t even play difficult games, why tolerate writing for those?
Why exactly should we trust people who have verifiably mis-judged games on thousands of occasions, require an EASY MODE to play games, refuse to actually review the game itself, or have attacked and insulted people because they disagree with artistic preferences. Reviewers and Journalists said that Nintendo would fail, claimed that Mario Brothers and Super Mario Brothers would FAIL. They claimed that Atari was too big to fail. They PRAISED the E.T. game. They claimed Pokemon would not succeed in Western markets. They have predicted the failures of most of the actually successful games, while outright praising the biggest failures and flops. Their OPINION is not trustworthy and we have 5 decades worth of data to prove it.
Heres the thing, i do trust game reveiwers... i just dont trust game journalists. Game journalists have been documented, and often by themselves, to be bigots, racists, corrupt, narcissistic, and manipulating gas lighters. They are that toxic ex that trys to hook back up constantly and you sometimes do but eventually your friends convince you to burn the bridge in the end. Sometimes you just cant earn that trust back.
WHile we're at it why not trust scam callers as well ... I mean do we REALLY know they aren't some foreign prince trying to share their wealth with random people?
What about those really friendly people that tell you to cut all connections with anyone outside of their group? I hear the mothership to Zeta Prime is due back any day now. Only $999.99 for a literal ticket to a paradise world.
Especially those people who give away their belongings. Nothing suspicious about them forgetting to turn off their alarm clocks when they give them away.
Bruh, if I should just trust "(gaming) journalists" who share my opinion, then why would I even need "journalists", since all their opinions are mine already?!?!?
So after over 10 years of this guy down the road trying to kick me, and me getting pretty good at shoving him into the ditch. Yesterday, he started yelling how I needed to trust him and that he would never kick me, WHILE he was running at me trying to get a kick in. I have been doing this for a long while, so I sidestepped and shoved him into the ditch lol. He can pretend to be offended about my self-defense all he wants. That I would believe he would kick me, what a shock...
Reminder Dean Takahashi, a game journalist. Got stuck doing the Cuphead tutorial for a painfully long time. So long that a father made a side by side video of him being nearly beat by his 5 year old son and another person made a video of a pigeon solving a puzzle faster than ol Dean could finish that tutorial.
Yee man, good stuff! I was recently laid off and with how many also were they took up lots of jobs round here so my pay dropped 16 bucks BUT I'm still workin! Keep that grind and never let it stop
Always remember, Gamergate wasn't about gamers hating on people who make games, it was gamers hating on the incestuous relationship people who made games were having with games journalists.
I didn't trust them back in the 2000s when they sucked up to major game studios but gave really good games bad reviews, I didn't trust them when they tried to shove third-wave feminism down my throat back in the mid-2010s, and I sure as shit won't trust them now.
Who could have predicted that when you spend years insulting your Readers and not have an actual honest dialog with them would lead to losing all your customers
I find people with "similar tastes to my own" on youtube, reviewing games properly. Their guidance far outweighs that of any "game journalist". Because if they don't put out proper content which people can rely on, their channel goes to shit, and they won't earn jack with it. A game "journalist" gets paid to come into office, regardless whether he writes something that's worth even reading or not.
After years of attacking gamers and trying to push agendas like rabbid beasts they think they should be trusted with this article? Nope. Not going to happen. Trust is hard to earn and easy to lose. And a lot of us have trust issues.
You know what a trustworthy person never does? Tell you that your opinions are wrong and you absolutely need to trust them. They simply show their trustworthiness through actions.
When I read "The myth that games journalists hate video games is false" I couldn't help but think of the South Park episode 'Funnybot' when the Germans said on TV said "Der Comedy Awarden ist FALSCH!" in German gibberish. That's exactly how I imagine this guy to have said it. And before anyone makes the wrong assumption, I am German myself and I found that part hilarious.
Why the hell would I ever trust a Journalist who has incentive to lie for continued early access to video games and has repeatedly proven to be pushing an agenda I'm opposed to when I can just wait for a week or two and read the opinions of real gamers who simply bought and played the game? The only reason I ever look at the reviews of professional critics any more is for a quick laugh at how bad they are.
fact: the "game journalists" always beat games with cheats, skip as much as possible, and if they can't play with infinite HP/ammo/whatever, they can't get past the tutorial (I hope y'all remember the cuphead fiasco)
How does "being passionate" change anything, doesn't hate require passion? No one said game journalists were apathetic towards video games, the passionate hatred was acknowledged.
I'll never forget the console reviews that barely said anything about the respective consoles but were more going on about politics or the writer's phobia. If I was the editor, I'd've assigned the review to someone else who'll do the actual job.
I love their notion of finding game reviewers who "have similar tastes to you", like, Yeah, obviously, but is that even doable on those news sites? Generally, for the most part, games just seem to be reviewed by whoever gets the short straw, it's not like they developed a platform where that is a viable option to build rapport with a reviewer and their tastes, because there isn't even a promise that the same author will review the next instalment from the same franchise, studio, etc. It's much easier to find such a person on YT, who can then play the game and give us a review showing gameplay footage, rather than stock clips provided by the studios. The whole "we don't hate games" is funny when they've consistently gone out of their way to attack corners of the medium as the morality police that they are. The entire backlash to a character like "Eve", meanwhile clapping for characters blatantly hit with an ugly stick, because them taking a capture of a model and mangling their face is much more unrealistic than a character who looks fairly on-par with the model they used. They've not even just failed to give us a viable means to hook to them, in an era of social media, they've failed to give us the social aspect of being able to follow an individual and their reviews that they're paid by a company for. But, not only that, they've gone out of their way to generally attack the entire community because people had the nerve to disagree with them and even in some cases call them out on their incompetence.
Between constantly shitting on people and being almost completely replaced by let's-players, streamers, and first party news events, not only is there no reason to trust game journalists, there's reason for them to exist anymore. The fact that these game journalism sites have had to resort to SEO slop full of "tips" and "strategies" that are obvious to people who've played the game for 5 minutes (and only serve to pollute search results for players looking to find actual information) makes it abundantly clear that the game journalism industry is on its deathbed.
Yeah, it's extremely hard to prove a time the line's been used. An example I can use is BT-7274 from Titanfall 2, but that's over halfway into the campaign after surviving through multiple death traps and figuring out what the hell the enemy was up to. And the use of it was after he did the math for a long distance toss.
I haven't trusted a 'games journalist' since Jim Sterling put out that video saying how it was totes okay for 'game journalists' to be receiving free PS4s and X Box Ones directly from the source. You know, gifts from the people you're supposed to be critical of.
"To find trustworthy game critics, look for those with similar tastes and opinions to yourself." I mean... We did. That's literally why we left the game journos.
“Game journalists should be trusted” Oh yeah you mean like when they said DOOM eternal is too hard therefore it’s a bad game, yet I cleared it on the 2nd highest difficulty FIRST TRY?
I trust Gameranx, Worth a Buy, Second Wind, Hero Hei and many more. Even though they never asked me to do it. After a decade of insulting gamers, self inserting their personal feelings/politics into the review, lying, clickbaiting articles, low quality dumping articles, inflating average reviews into 7 so companies can be in good terms with them, not giving honest feedback to companies so they continue to produce bad products (probably a great factor in the current state of the industry). My default reaction is not trusting game journalists, they cannot mimic passion. My best advice to any game journalist that wants to succeed and wants gaming to succeed is **speak truthtfully**
All I need to trust them is to accurately tell me about is the game play. Not to judge/spoil the story. What kind of control scheme, skill sets, team dynamics, hidden monitization…. What kind of play should I be expecting and for how much? If you are writing about an M rated 17+ game with large chested women on the cover, that’s the last thing I’ll ever need to hear from an article is about anyone being upset that chests exist. It will be the most useless thing to mention. Useless Journalist want trust when they openly tell you how useless they intend to be.
"Look for those with similar tastes and opinions to yourself" One of the biggest social problems today is people surrounding themselves with "echo chambers" of their own opinion in search of validation. That's how we've ended up with an alarming number of individuals who's knee-jerk reaction to criticisms, or even simply differing opinions, is to angrily silence them by any means. We shouldn't be encouraging hive-mind mentality, or else we risk losing our ability to think critically (which, come to think of it, may be the REAL intent here...).
I would never trust people who only play games because they get paid for it. Who even reads these stupid articles. I don't think I've ever read a single game journalist review. I mean why would you even need a review if you play on steam. Just buy the game and if it's trash you can return it.
That was Kotaku, no IGN, that cried. GO Media, parent company of Kotaku, then folded and doesn't respond to their emails asking them whether Alyssa Mercante's sexist and racist remarks as well as the harassment campaigns she's started are in line with their values. I've emailed GO Media multiple times asking about her behaviour and have gotten zero reply.
I dont trust their oPINions
Ngl you deserve the pin for that 😂
GG, nice pun!
Turtle approved
Easy to PIN that out.
Gg Dude.😂
Don't trust the Evangelion omedeto! 🥳🎊🚔
Trust is earned, not given.
My mama always say. 🤟
@@brokeninfinitysonic1and Mama is right
It's also way easier to get it in the first place than gain it back...
Also much easier to lose than gain
Given once, spent freely, and the rest is earned. At least that's the way I look at it.
"Gamers need to trust game journalist"
Good joke.
How about no?
Hmmm...nope, not gonna happen.
No thanks i am good.
Gamers: “Trust me bro” huh?
Jokes on them I don't trust all journalists equally
Trust is not deserved, it’s earned. I don’t have to trust people that have barely any integrity from corruption or just wanna push an agenda.
There was a time when we did trust - or at least listened to what they had to say. It is the fault of the industry that we can no longer consider them reliable.
@@cybertramon0012 Although it's besides your point, in hindsight they didn't deserve our trust when we did trust them either, when they did stuff like being unreasonably negative about japanese games during the 2000s.
@@inendlesspain4724
That's the thing there was a very short period of time really where game journalists were real and we're actually fans first and not activists cosplaying as actual journalists.
Yes there was always some level of biases but you could always find someone who is a little less biased.
Now that simply does not exist.
These journalists haven't even played Super Monkey Ball Banana Rumble, to realize that THIS GAME IS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN ELDEN RING.
Super Monkey Ball is great. I remember when I completed every level, I felt so accomplished.
I still haven't beaten Adventure Island 2. That last level is soooo difficult.
Facts 😭 but it's fun 😊
@@Hinatachan360
Hudson's? Oh man that game was TOUGH
LOL! 😆 😆 I absolutely love your comment. 😊 😊
"Game journalists often beat difficult games."
Cuphead would like a word with you.
Super Monkey Ball Banana Rumble would have a word with you as well.
Same people begging for an easy mode from Fromsoft games.
@@VileGlory Two words, "Skill Issue".
No 🧢 😂 @@SweetBaby2GT
Probably 15+ years ago they did. Now they are bunch of whiny game hating weirdos.
Imagine being hired, literally eveywhere, and when they ask you to do your job, you freak out calling everybody a racist and fascist. Everyday, we stray far away from God.
It's not God we are straying from, it's sanity.
@@darkoraclegirl4570 God is the Form of the Good, the Good as apprehensible by the Intellect is Truth, and madness is the inability to perceive Truth. So…same difference.
I agreed. How the might have fallen...
That's when you should fire the people who do that. Sadly, IGN's higher ups have no balls
The definitions of racist and fascist become more and more deviated because of these freaks.
"game journalist beat bosses" never heard that before.
Must be on "game journalis" level, you know the one bellow easiest.
Cuphead tutorial level
The "boss" is probably "wite sumemeacy" or "bigotry" in their minds.
The tutorial boss doesn’t count.
*EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER*
>Games journalists are not out to get you
Hey, remember when all the big sites coordinated and put out near identical headlines along the lines of "Gamers don't need to be your audience" all within the span of a few days.
Gamers are Dangerous To Our Democracy TM.
It doesn't matter if gamers "need" to trust them. Gamers don't trust them.
Inversion: game journalists 'need' to be trusted. And they aren't. And they won't be for a long time.
This is why we love Steam Reviews, it's passionate people telling their story, not paid actors.
Calling game journalists a legitimate job is like saying gamers aren't oppressed.
Calling Game Journalists a legitimate job is like saying "being an online Karen or making OnlyFans serves as a fine job"
ye
Even 5yo gamers could write better than game "journalists", and they're mostly scribbles
I don't even consider them people.
Oppressed feels like a strong word to describe gamers. Mocked, derided, scorned, belittled, rejected, these feel like better terms for what's been happening. Keep in mind, the gaming industry died once already because of bad games. I refuse to believe it won't happen again, even if this time it's just triple A.
They have proved so many times that we shouldnt trust them
0:04 trust is earn, not given; their is also the default of trust, but when we’re being lied over and over again and dehumanize for having a common sense argument like “what’s wrong liking women” or “Why is this character objectively uglified both in appearance or in personality” or “why is this beloved character for a long time being destroy or degrade their character”
Journalists from the Gamer called us cowards and other names for not siding with them on Hogwarts Legacy. The Gamer, Kotaku, IGN and their ilk can get bent.
they are supposed to have it easy, talk about the story of the game, the characters, the gameplay, the graphics, etc, and they don't have to add their own personal agenda and political view, but they do it anyway
And these are probably the same people that attacked a vtuber for simply wanting to have fun and play the game. Not caring about the drama.
I’ll trust video game journalists when Hell freezes over, not before.
But Hell Michigan freezes over at least twice a year.
Sorry, joking. Still, set your standards a little higher. The last circle of Hell in Dante's Inferno was suppoed to be a frozen wasteland if I recall correctly.
I’ll trust video game journalists when Orca's take to the land to wage war with legos.
...
maybe that bar is to low.
That trilogy is purely fictional, he made it as a self insert to say how righteous he was and how the current Catholic Church in his time wasn’t following god and will be sent to hell, such as the frozen pope in the last circle of hell.
Not that they aren’t good books it just isn’t biblical or accurate.
That was Kotaku who wanted to require their “journalists” to actually play games, not IGN.
Wow. Can't believe kotaku or any gaming journo company would do something would make sense and possibly profit.
Same shit different smell
@@kyodante The parent company handed down that edict, and the gaming journo companies' parent companies actually have been doing things that would make sense and possibly profit -- in Kotaku's case it might actually be that they're in that awkward spot where they're on a pretty skeletal staff...but not so close to the expected pink slip party that they can just move it up. (Their parent company's been selling off their various media sites, none of which seem to have kept any staff along for the ride & one of which didn't sell until after it'd been already shut down and the staff laid off, indicating that the STAFF were the reason it couldn't be sold.)
I caught that memory error as well, but that sentiment should be applied by IGN management if they wanted to be customer facing product instead of an advertising selling product. Unfortunately they view the corporations as their customers, not the gamers.
Technically, they didn't. It's why they're looking for a new editor in chief. The writing team refused to do it and kept writing what they wanted. And then the job posting is full of DEI jargon and buzzwords.
I trust the squad of randos I've been grouped up with for a match more than those odd balls.
Facts.
I mostly trust youtubers who cover game news and reviews.
As the saying goes:
"You think you hate journalists, but you don't hate them enough."
"Games journalists often beat difficult games" i laughed so hard on that sentence xD
Cuphead and literally every Souls games: *_allow us to introduce ourselves_*
@@crystalwings4520
That game journalist playing Doom on easiest mode: Hello there
First one is a lie.
Second one is just saying the opposite of truth.
Third one is asking to be in an echo chamber.
Game journalists are not journalists the same way a jellyfish is not a fish.
It is just a name.
Back in the days of Nintendo Power, PSM, and EGM, game journalists were gamers just like us. Being a game journalists was considered a dream job for gamers. Oh well. Gone are those days.
I miss 1UP
*Used to* being as gamers. If true sense that the gaming lore have gave us that we don't need fake journalists to judge about the game.
IT's because all of the failures that couldn't get jobs at CNN decided to use videogame journalism as their fall back. So a bunch of non gamers flooded these places, and worst of all they dind't even like video games or want to write articles about them.
They wanted to write articles about "stuff that mattered" which is how you got shit like that Ps5 review which after the first paragraph went "But how can I appreciate this console when there is no much wrong with the world" and the rest of the article was them just climbing on their soapbox to rant about stuff.
The sad part is their selfish ranting is probably why CNN didn't hire them either, as bad as these news outlets are ... they do need their journalists to stay on topic for whatever article they are working on.
But they don't at all realize this and act like the world is against them. Some of them even proudly declare their articles piss people off as they've deluded themself into thinking they "shook up the status quo" so they think of themselves as heroes.
Yup, they were gamers first who happened to pick up a career in writing.
I wonder how these activist game journalist even get these jobs in the first place. They don’t even play difficult games, why tolerate writing for those?
Why exactly should we trust people who have verifiably mis-judged games on thousands of occasions, require an EASY MODE to play games, refuse to actually review the game itself, or have attacked and insulted people because they disagree with artistic preferences.
Reviewers and Journalists said that Nintendo would fail, claimed that Mario Brothers and Super Mario Brothers would FAIL.
They claimed that Atari was too big to fail.
They PRAISED the E.T. game.
They claimed Pokemon would not succeed in Western markets.
They have predicted the failures of most of the actually successful games, while outright praising the biggest failures and flops.
Their OPINION is not trustworthy and we have 5 decades worth of data to prove it.
Heres the thing, i do trust game reveiwers... i just dont trust game journalists. Game journalists have been documented, and often by themselves, to be bigots, racists, corrupt, narcissistic, and manipulating gas lighters. They are that toxic ex that trys to hook back up constantly and you sometimes do but eventually your friends convince you to burn the bridge in the end. Sometimes you just cant earn that trust back.
You know what? It’s also time to start trusting politicians and corporations 🤣
WHile we're at it why not trust scam callers as well ... I mean do we REALLY know they aren't some foreign prince trying to share their wealth with random people?
@@metazoxan2And those nice random. People who drive around in vans handing out free candy
@@metazoxan2 Those Indians who ask for a refunds in Steam giftcards are more trustworthy than game journalist!
What about those really friendly people that tell you to cut all connections with anyone outside of their group? I hear the mothership to Zeta Prime is due back any day now. Only $999.99 for a literal ticket to a paradise world.
Especially those people who give away their belongings. Nothing suspicious about them forgetting to turn off their alarm clocks when they give them away.
It was Kotaku
Total Biscuit was the last real gaming journalist.
RIP
The game industry in a few years:
Players: "This game isn't fun and the premise is boring"
Activist Game-Journalists: "SOURCE?!"
Bruh, if I should just trust "(gaming) journalists" who share my opinion, then why would I even need "journalists", since all their opinions are mine already?!?!?
"you need to trust us"
- every corrupt politician, crook, scam artist, hoodwinker, conman ever
Note that even when trying to say that they're trustworthy, they still default to blaming gamers, taking no accountability for their actions
So after over 10 years of this guy down the road trying to kick me, and me getting pretty good at shoving him into the ditch. Yesterday, he started yelling how I needed to trust him and that he would never kick me, WHILE he was running at me trying to get a kick in. I have been doing this for a long while, so I sidestepped and shoved him into the ditch lol.
He can pretend to be offended about my self-defense all he wants. That I would believe he would kick me, what a shock...
Another Satanya thumbnail? Maybe I should make a chart of how many Satanyas are going to be in the thumbnail.
→Pin here ←
You know, thought of a funny line, you could've said "how many Satanyas are being pinned to the thumbnail.
Game Journalists aren't gamers anymore. Turned into a job for people who want to ruin gaming.
Reminder Dean Takahashi, a game journalist. Got stuck doing the Cuphead tutorial for a painfully long time. So long that a father made a side by side video of him being nearly beat by his 5 year old son and another person made a video of a pigeon solving a puzzle faster than ol Dean could finish that tutorial.
I got a new job
GRATS
Yee man, good stuff! I was recently laid off and with how many also were they took up lots of jobs round here so my pay dropped 16 bucks BUT I'm still workin! Keep that grind and never let it stop
This recent article 'ThE GaMeR' put out is just another attempt at gaslighting. It makes me not trust gaming journalists even more.
What was the article about?
"It's Time To Start Trusting PAID SHILLS" is what they meant to say.
I follow gamers whose taste is like mine and others whose tastes are different, and none are journalists, hm...
Might as well have said "It's time to start trusting politicians" or "the government"
"Sheep need to trust us!" -said the wolf
0:35 it was for Kotaku not IGN....
Always remember, Gamergate wasn't about gamers hating on people who make games, it was gamers hating on the incestuous relationship people who made games were having with games journalists.
Yep trading sexual access for good game reviews is about as scummy as it gets, but trading ad money for good game reviews isn't much better.
I have no trust nor believe gaming urinalists that they have passion for anything except money and power over others.
"No, I don't think i will."
I didn't trust them back in the 2000s when they sucked up to major game studios but gave really good games bad reviews, I didn't trust them when they tried to shove third-wave feminism down my throat back in the mid-2010s, and I sure as shit won't trust them now.
As if things can’t stop getting even crazier
"You don't hate journalists enough.
You think you do but you don't."
You don't need gamers, gamers aren't your audience. Remember that journos?
Does no one remember that game journalist who was stuck on the Cuphead Tutorial still funny.
Who could have predicted that when you spend years insulting your Readers and not have an actual honest dialog with them would lead to losing all your customers
I find people with "similar tastes to my own" on youtube, reviewing games properly. Their guidance far outweighs that of any "game journalist". Because if they don't put out proper content which people can rely on, their channel goes to shit, and they won't earn jack with it. A game "journalist" gets paid to come into office, regardless whether he writes something that's worth even reading or not.
After years of attacking gamers and trying to push agendas like rabbid beasts they think they should be trusted with this article? Nope. Not going to happen. Trust is hard to earn and easy to lose. And a lot of us have trust issues.
Trust is EARNED, not demanded
You know what a trustworthy person never does? Tell you that your opinions are wrong and you absolutely need to trust them.
They simply show their trustworthiness through actions.
They *had* our trust. Then they proceeded to spend the past several years losing it.
When I read "The myth that games journalists hate video games is false" I couldn't help but think of the South Park episode 'Funnybot' when the Germans said on TV said "Der Comedy Awarden ist FALSCH!" in German gibberish. That's exactly how I imagine this guy to have said it. And before anyone makes the wrong assumption, I am German myself and I found that part hilarious.
You can't just scream to people "TRUST ME!!!" and think that will work.
"The myth that games journalists hate games is false" Boy, they sure as hell don't do a whole lot to avoid looking like they do, then!
Why the hell would I ever trust a Journalist who has incentive to lie for continued early access to video games and has repeatedly proven to be pushing an agenda I'm opposed to when I can just wait for a week or two and read the opinions of real gamers who simply bought and played the game?
The only reason I ever look at the reviews of professional critics any more is for a quick laugh at how bad they are.
"Gamers need to trust game journalists" said by a game journalist is like a scammer saying "trust me bro" after he just ripped $1000 off your hands
"Never say 'trust us' to a gamer."
fact: the "game journalists" always beat games with cheats, skip as much as possible, and if they can't play with infinite HP/ammo/whatever, they can't get past the tutorial (I hope y'all remember the cuphead fiasco)
guys, I'm having flashbacks to the game-journalist vs pigeon moment. aaaaaaaaaah
"Trust us. Only WE can say what is best for you"
Journalists are not owed the trust of the players. It has to be earned.
Once upon a time, we did trust game journalists. But that trust was broken and they have done nothing to earn it back.
How does "being passionate" change anything, doesn't hate require passion? No one said game journalists were apathetic towards video games, the passionate hatred was acknowledged.
Every time gamers have a different opinion on some game, journalists start to insult. Happens in Italy too, following the same script.
"To find trustworthy game critics, look for those with similar tastes and opinions to yourself"
So what I already do normally without your industry?
I'll never forget the console reviews that barely said anything about the respective consoles but were more going on about politics or the writer's phobia. If I was the editor, I'd've assigned the review to someone else who'll do the actual job.
That third bullet point...
I love their notion of finding game reviewers who "have similar tastes to you", like, Yeah, obviously, but is that even doable on those news sites? Generally, for the most part, games just seem to be reviewed by whoever gets the short straw, it's not like they developed a platform where that is a viable option to build rapport with a reviewer and their tastes, because there isn't even a promise that the same author will review the next instalment from the same franchise, studio, etc.
It's much easier to find such a person on YT, who can then play the game and give us a review showing gameplay footage, rather than stock clips provided by the studios. The whole "we don't hate games" is funny when they've consistently gone out of their way to attack corners of the medium as the morality police that they are. The entire backlash to a character like "Eve", meanwhile clapping for characters blatantly hit with an ugly stick, because them taking a capture of a model and mangling their face is much more unrealistic than a character who looks fairly on-par with the model they used.
They've not even just failed to give us a viable means to hook to them, in an era of social media, they've failed to give us the social aspect of being able to follow an individual and their reviews that they're paid by a company for. But, not only that, they've gone out of their way to generally attack the entire community because people had the nerve to disagree with them and even in some cases call them out on their incompetence.
I'm not even a gamer and I don't trust them.
nah bro: we'll be cynical as we like, AND will need to see change before we believe it.
There was one reviewer that deserved my trust. That was TotalBiscuit. Man is an absolute legend. No one comes even close.
Between constantly shitting on people and being almost completely replaced by let's-players, streamers, and first party news events, not only is there no reason to trust game journalists, there's reason for them to exist anymore.
The fact that these game journalism sites have had to resort to SEO slop full of "tips" and "strategies" that are obvious to people who've played the game for 5 minutes (and only serve to pollute search results for players looking to find actual information) makes it abundantly clear that the game journalism industry is on its deathbed.
in reality and even in movies when someone says "trust me" nothing good comes out if it
Yeah, it's extremely hard to prove a time the line's been used. An example I can use is BT-7274 from Titanfall 2, but that's over halfway into the campaign after surviving through multiple death traps and figuring out what the hell the enemy was up to. And the use of it was after he did the math for a long distance toss.
@@thefiresworddragon927I will trust a Titan with my life and my firstborn.
"Game journalists can be trusted"
Citations needed
"often beat difficult games"
Let's remind them about this on the next "[Game Name] needs an easy mode" article
"Games journalists have beaten difficult games".
Games journalists can't even beat tutorials.
I haven't trusted a 'games journalist' since Jim Sterling put out that video saying how it was totes okay for 'game journalists' to be receiving free PS4s and X Box Ones directly from the source. You know, gifts from the people you're supposed to be critical of.
It's also one of THE worst publications to be saying that. All they do is ragebait and shit on gamers.
The *Lol cry harder ben* got me
Article: trust the journalists and game makers
Gamers: show us why we should trust you first
"To find trustworthy game critics, look for those with similar tastes and opinions to yourself."
I mean... We did. That's literally why we left the game journos.
“Game journalists should be trusted”
Oh yeah you mean like when they said DOOM eternal is too hard therefore it’s a bad game, yet I cleared it on the 2nd highest difficulty FIRST TRY?
trust is earned, and so far all they've earned is the opposite of trust
I trust Gameranx, Worth a Buy, Second Wind, Hero Hei and many more. Even though they never asked me to do it.
After a decade of insulting gamers, self inserting their personal feelings/politics into the review, lying, clickbaiting articles, low quality dumping articles, inflating average reviews into 7 so companies can be in good terms with them, not giving honest feedback to companies so they continue to produce bad products (probably a great factor in the current state of the industry).
My default reaction is not trusting game journalists, they cannot mimic passion.
My best advice to any game journalist that wants to succeed and wants gaming to succeed is **speak truthtfully**
If only they were as passionate about games as they were about inserting their political activism into the conversation at every turn. . .
Next up: criminals say it's time to take shortcuts through dark alleyways.
All I need to trust them is to accurately tell me about is the game play.
Not to judge/spoil the story.
What kind of control scheme, skill sets, team dynamics, hidden monitization…. What kind of play should I be expecting and for how much? If you are writing about an M rated 17+ game with large chested women on the cover, that’s the last thing I’ll ever need to hear from an article is about anyone being upset that chests exist. It will be the most useless thing to mention. Useless Journalist want trust when they openly tell you how useless they intend to be.
They're as trustworthy as Dr Disrespect if you give him a messaging app.
"Look for those with similar tastes and opinions to yourself"
One of the biggest social problems today is people surrounding themselves with "echo chambers" of their own opinion in search of validation. That's how we've ended up with an alarming number of individuals who's knee-jerk reaction to criticisms, or even simply differing opinions, is to angrily silence them by any means. We shouldn't be encouraging hive-mind mentality, or else we risk losing our ability to think critically (which, come to think of it, may be the REAL intent here...).
I would never trust people who only play games because they get paid for it. Who even reads these stupid articles. I don't think I've ever read a single game journalist review. I mean why would you even need a review if you play on steam. Just buy the game and if it's trash you can return it.
It's like they've never seen a mirror ever.
Trust is earned, not begged for
Trust is hard to earn, easy to lose, and harder to earn back.
"You should trust games journalists" - games journalist
"find those with similar opinions and tastes to yourself" ah so you mean, find an echo chamber?
That was Kotaku, no IGN, that cried. GO Media, parent company of Kotaku, then folded and doesn't respond to their emails asking them whether Alyssa Mercante's sexist and racist remarks as well as the harassment campaigns she's started are in line with their values. I've emailed GO Media multiple times asking about her behaviour and have gotten zero reply.