@@thatmovieguy7778 she might have said its all a game to me ,or u r my project "i like u as a person,or i love u" r out of the question as she(sociopath) clearly refuted that pretty cleary in front of everyone.
It’s cool that you’re shining a light on these films and Labute. I watched them when they first came out and though they were hard to watch, they stuck with me a long time.
@@CSM100MK2 Think that is a very unfair comment to be honest. I say this because for those of us who've been on this earth for a good few decades you soon learn that many experiences in "real life" are utterly more terrifying than any form of media can depict. From my own humble experience I've felt the most gut-wrenching fear twice in my life. Once when I was first fired upon when serving in the military, and the second was being with my partner when she was told that she had terminal cancer. Nothing shown to me on screen can begin to compare to those two milestones. The OP wasn't trying to be "profound". He was merely making a rational and true statement, albeit centred on horrifying individuals instead of incidents and circumstances. Takem care and stay safe out there.
He's a fantastic playwright as well! Far better known in those circles. Autobahn is a favourite of mine. 5-7 separate scenes all taking place on different car journeys. A break up, a mother driving her daughter back from rehab, two guys stealing an Xbox back from an ex. Wonderful stuff and he has plenty readily available. Love your channel!
Had no idea these movies existed, but based on your descriptions I think I’ll love them, thanks for stinging a light on these lesser known films, gonna check em out right now! Edit: Just finished watching all 3, Wow, liked them all a lot. Some really good films I'll be thinking about for a while, very unique experiences. Thanks again for recommending these, I might have to check out more of his filmography even if it doesn't seem he's done that many good films after this, though I noticed he did write and direct a TV show about a relationship with 2 step-siblings which has some solid reviews, so might be worth checking out. He also has a movie coming out this year which seems like it could be a return to form.
You should check out his play fat pig. They never made a movie of it. By today's standards, people would be sensitive and probably trash it, but he does bring to light prejudice towards people who are overweight. And why people can be cowards even though there is someone great in their life.
Paul Rudd was excellent casting for The Shape of Things…he is so good as the Everyman character but definitely handsome enough to become the “improved” version. His natural charm allows the audience to remain empathetic at the end despite his flaws.
These early Neil movies were my jam while I was in film school. Still have the DVDs for Friends & Neighbors and In Company of Men. Shame he couldn't keep up this style of filmmaking however probably not broad enough for the typical audience members.
Stunning! I really like that you choose to analyize rather unkown movies here. I am so suprised that they have such a star line up. I loved every second of this! Thank you!
Great analysis of these works! I'm doing a presentation on Neil LaBute and I'm using some of this video as an example of how some people interpret LaBute's themes. Thanks for the insightful and entertaining video essay!
The shape of things has to be the most brutal movie I've seen on a psychological level cuz she built this man from the ground up and helped him level up then destroyed him in mere seconds come the end and I swear he was never gonna be the same again nor trust a soul ever for any reason.
I love how it exposes the hypocrisy of, well, _ALL_ societies. You wouldn't allow Kim Jong-un to inject untested products into your infant child, would you? But as soon as someone your subconscious sees as _"MY_ Government" or peers says "do this" you don't even _consider_ the bare fact that it *is* untested. Everything becomes about not risking rejection from either group out of fear.
I've always felt that a dark comedy is by far the eeriest and most uncomfortable genre of all, sometimes much more than horror films or thrillers. At their very best, they slyly and subtly reflect the true darkness and bleakness at the heart of life, often being wise enough to disguise itself as a broad comedy or a lighthearted satire. Along with In The Company of Men, here are some of my other favorites: The King of Comedy The Heartbreak Kid (1972) Monsieur Verdoux Unfaithfully Yours (1948) Kind Hearts and Coronets Divorce, Italian Style River's Edge Buffalo 66 World's Greatest Dad Man Bites Dog Modern Romance Catch-22 Wag The Dog Shallow Grave Citizen Ruth Force Majeure A New Leaf The Ruling Class Very Bad Things Heavy Traffic Prizzi's Honor Under The Silver Lake Election Crimes and Misdemenours Fritz The Cat The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover Investigation of A Citizen Above Suspicion
Thanks for the recommendations mate. May I recommend two series written and starring Ricky Gervais. The first is called "Derek" about a man with some form of learning disability who volunteers in a nursing home for the elderly, and the other is "After Life" which revolves around a local journalist trying to come to terms with the death of his beloved wife, while just not giving a care about the consequences of his actions. Both shows have the capacity make you howl with laughter, but also become gut-wrenchingly sad within a single episode. Thanks again for the list 👍
I had never heard of these films until I saw this so I watched this up until the spoilers then stopped it and found the movies and watched each one. Man, these are all tough to watch. He is a master at creating reprehensible characters. Rachael Weisz was brilliant in The Shape of Things. I think that was my favorite of these three.
Although this is one of your lesser viewed videos, it is one of my favorites and introduced me to 3 excellent films I had never heard of. I would love it if you would go in-depth with lesser known films more often, it’s wonderful!
just watching some of those clips from the first two movies (I haven't seen the third, but might look it up) made me tense and anxious, and I haven't watched them since about the time they came out... That's power.
I'm not a cinephile but I watched all three movies the past few days thanks to this video. I was expecting them to have an impact, at least while watching them, but they were quite bearable -- maybe except for "Your friends and neighbors" where that bathroom monologue made me sick to my stomach. In fact, it was the first time I saw a movie where all the characters were despicable and unlikable, and at the same time I felt I wasn't supposed to know what goes in their lives, like seeing their darkest and most intimate thoughts and habits. Thanks for the recommendation! :)) "In the company of men" had a morally disturbing plot, indeed, but in the end I felt the woman would be okay and would overcome the trauma; I just felt that she was a lot stronger than she seemed and I rooted for her. As for the two men, they didn't leave much of an impression on me; it happens a lot in real life to see how the "bully" overlaps with the "nice guy". What annoyed me in particular was the constant misogynistic dialogue but it fit the characters. "The Shape of Things" was the most interesting, in my opinion, because it raised a good question about how far can one go to create art (well, look at how far Labute went! Maybe he was trying to answer a question he might have had for himself). The characters were fun to watch and I didn't hate any of them in the end. You talked about Evelyn manipulating Adam (oh, what cute but predictable name choices -- Adam and Eve(lyn)), but what about Adam who became healthier and more confident thanks to her and ended up cheating? The movie feels balanced (in a twisted way) because both characters were horrible and unethical to each other. I found I kind of like Labute's work and started reading "Autobahn" out of curiosity. I think he's good at showing the worst in people and pushes the limits of discomfort but at the same time remains "commercial" -- I mean, the movies don't seem pretentious like only a select few could appreciate them at a festival. They're accessible and grounded, showing the lives of people that you may have already met. Thank you for the amazing video essays!
Fantastic video man! All of these have the same vibes as happiness, and I've been trying to understand what genre that film is other than disturbing and these are great additions to that group! Keep it up
Very well done!! These kinds of movies are amazing because they’re real. Hollywood endings are sometimes forced and unnatural. Please, please cover the Irish series called The Fall with Gillian Anderson and Jaime Dornan. It was Fantastic but no one really talks about it.
12:01 please dont forget that Howard physically, mentally/manipulation,seeing her as a game(20 % of what the other guy did gave the mental trauma to that girl) abused in that car scenes the other guy physically didn't abuse that girl,but mentally he was devastating to that girl.
I'm glad I have indeed heard of him and way before his Wicker Man remake. In the company of Men and Your friends & Neighbours are excellent films. Reminds me a lot also cos they came out around the same time, Todd Solondz's first two movies, Welcome to the Dollhouse and Happiness. I wonder if other people think of that as well.
25 years later, I'd completely buried the fact I'd seen "In the Company of Men." Pretty sure I saw "Your Friends and Neighbors" in the theatre with friends--which is kind of funny because I just saw did really badly. Both are nadirs of humanity but enjoyed your commentary on them.
Your Friends and Neighbors realllly fucked me up with that sauna speech. I think I caught it on HBO around 1999 when I was about 15. This video just reactivated it. Thanks! Also, good video.
What was more disturbing was that all the other guys went along with everything he said like when he was making fun of the deaf girl saying she probably has a voice like a dolphin. The other guy starts laughing hysterically like this is the funniest joke he has ever heard.
It sounds to me like this is the kind of discomfort I could stomach, as opposed to BB's and horror movies' intentionally drawn out scenes with inevitable payoff.
I can't watch most movies with realistic and/or well-acted sociopaths because I've had two extended encounters with them in the past. And one of them even meets all the classic criteria (bedwetting/violence against animals/pyromania), so yeah, that's not a pseudo-diagnosis either. I can't stand it when they show up in movies. Maybe Nightcrawler is a really good movie, but I'll never know from experience. But at the same time, I praise their realistic portrayal in movies, the more people become aware of how these people can behave, the better.
I saw The Shape of Things twice when it was off Broadway way back in 2001 in NYC. It’s a better play than film. There were actually a lot of laughs in it due to Paul Rudd for the most part. He’s great at playing awkward. I think Your Friends and Neighbors is a pretty chilling movie. Jason Patric seems almost too perfect for this role.
I’ve only seen nurse Betty I think. My friend was watching the shape of things on tv once and it spoiled the ending but I guess I’ll give it all a try.
I went through a period in my youth, that I bet a lot of supposed cinefiles do. "I need the harrdest, realest, darkest shit I can get my hands on." LIke the more depraved the media was, the "realer" it would be. Toward the end of that period, someone gave me "...Company of Men" because they knew how dark my tastes were. I never finished it. I only got about 3-5 minutes in and turned it off. I stopped this essay about halfway through to finish it and watch the other two films. I am glad I did. Thank you for this.
Jason Patric is the grandson of Jackie Gleason. Mind you, Jason is an excellent actor but make no mistake that Jason got his breakout role as a teen vampire from Lost Boys
I don’t really see why stories like these wouldn’t get told today. Realistic human monsters are a perennial terror and maybe the settings would be updated but not the type of characters
Recommend any Aaron Echkart movies? Love the actor, but just don't know many good, realistic, captivating movies to watch with him in it :/. Seen dark Knight and that's bout I can remember.
interesting. I'd never watch this if you haven't mentioned it. but... now I'm curious an I think it could help me make better villains. we had physical abusers, now it's trendy for psychological ... I think we'll enter a new age of emotional ones, especially with all the social media and depression films coming out.
Are you familiar with Neil LaButte’s play In a Forest, Dark and Deep? In 2011, Matthew Fox and Olivia Williams portrayed the main characters in the play. While the play got mixed reviews, their performances were well received.
I’ve read The Shape of Things in my theater class and after finishing it, I cannot believe how someone would use them for a project and changing their looks. As for the playwright of Neil Labute, I dislike him cause he’s creating these kind of characters in a way to take the deeper side of the rabbit hole
That's like saying because someone made a movie about WWII, they're supporters of Hitler. Context is everything. Is he *glorifying* this, making it appear evil or neither?
i only watch The Shape of Things, because Rudd and Weisz safe to say, if i watch this first before The Mummy 1-2, i can guarantee i can never like Weisz
For me, it's so different in succession from the thick of it. In succession these people are really suffering, you don't see that in the thick of it, just their pure greed and stupidity.
Never watched any of these. .... Oh god except that one with the shower monologue. Long forgot the title etc but that monologue haunts you. I remember thinking I don't like any of these people so what's the point of watching.
my problem with "the shape of things" has always been that no art department or psych department for that matter would ever approve of a student thesis that involved deceiving someone into getting plastic surgery 😂
Very subtle Irish. He sounds like a light version of the Irish guy who has a true crime UA-cam channel called That Chapter. Except he pronounces the TH in "three" and "thirteen" whereas the other guy says "tree" and "Tirteen".
This is a very good representation. You give some opinion, but basically leave the discussion open. The crowd however is highly uncomfortable with that. Not surprisingly. No one who isn't Black can ever be called "African-American." Yet this 100% race-based name-calling is regarded as bias-free because Someone In Authority assured us so. Whereas the N-word is unacceptable no matter the context. & who determined all of this? We used to live in communities before the nuclear family. The family is inadequate. People feel a *need* to know where they stand within the group. Even if it's at the bottom rung of a ladder, most people feel way more secure knowing which rung it is. A huge part of domestic abuse is exactly just this, asserting ones place within a two-person group, combined with an inability to do it anywhere else: not at work, the bar, the gym. Not *consistently* anyway. So people seek outlets. Things like this result.
I may be a horrible person... Well... Lets not doubt it... I am... But i never thought i would be as bad as this people and i feel so identified w them... Maybe i need help...
He was lying about being heartbroken, though. The scene at the end shows that his girlfriend's still with him; she never left him. He didn't do it for "revenge", he did it... for fun, basically.
I've liked many of your videos so far, but this one has a few moments that seem sexist. You claim that the actions of the men are misogynistic, but in the last example of a woman behaving that way, you don't say it is misandrist; so it is sexist when a man does it, but not when a woman does it? Also, you say that a woman rightfully slaps a man for laughing at her, but I wonder if you'd feel it was just as justified if a man slapped a woman for the same behavior. There was a third example that I've since lost, and I don't feel like rewatching it to find it again, but I do remember it is similar to the first two examples, in which you have double-standards for behavior between the sexes- it is wrong when men do it, and okay when women do it. Call me a sexist I guess (nowadays egalitarianism is sexist, lol), but I think there should be the same standard of behavior for both sexes- women don't need/deserve special treatment, they are just as capable as men of being held to account for their behavior (and also equally capable of monstrous/cruel acts). Again, I have enjoyed many of your videos so far, but this one had three examples of double standards in your estimation of the characters' behavior (standards which seem determined by which genitals the character possesses).
can you recommend some books to read for storytelling , to knowing cinema
It’s been a while since film school, so I’ll pin your comment so others can make better recommendations
@@JustanObservation great pete , thanks
The Writers Journey: Mythic Structure for Writers
Books by Robert Mackee and John Truby
Oh I loved SAVE THE CAT! My aunt recommended it to me. I read it in one night and it made me want to start writing movies immediately!
The Shape of Things has stuck with me for years! The questions that it raises about art and morality are rarely brought to light.
Ive always wondered what she whispered to him at the end
@@thatmovieguy7778 just completed watching this movie I'm in shock now and surprised not even 1% I'm expecting that ending, great movie 👌
@@thatmovieguy7778 she might have said its all a game to me ,or u r my project
"i like u as a person,or i love u" r out of the question as she(sociopath) clearly refuted that pretty cleary in front of everyone.
It’s cool that you’re shining a light on these films and Labute. I watched them when they first came out and though they were hard to watch, they stuck with me a long time.
The most horrifying villains are the most realistic ones
@@CSM100MK2 you think you're not a d0uche
@@CSM100MK2 well his comment got a like from the channel and yours didn't.
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Think that is a very unfair comment to be honest.
I say this because for those of us who've been on this earth for a good few decades you soon learn that many experiences in "real life" are utterly more terrifying than any form of media can depict.
From my own humble experience I've felt the most gut-wrenching fear twice in my life. Once when I was first fired upon when serving in the military, and the second was being with my partner when she was told that she had terminal cancer. Nothing shown to me on screen can begin to compare to those two milestones.
The OP wasn't trying to be "profound". He was merely making a rational and true statement, albeit centred on horrifying individuals instead of incidents and circumstances.
Takem care and stay safe out there.
The most horrifying villains are the ones that seem realistic to you because you've encountered someone like that
Mr Freeze came to mind.
It's wild to me that The Shape of Things was a twisted inverse of the manic Pixie Dream Girl trope a year before it exploded for a decade.
He's a fantastic playwright as well! Far better known in those circles. Autobahn is a favourite of mine. 5-7 separate scenes all taking place on different car journeys. A break up, a mother driving her daughter back from rehab, two guys stealing an Xbox back from an ex. Wonderful stuff and he has plenty readily available. Love your channel!
Had no idea these movies existed, but based on your descriptions I think I’ll love them, thanks for stinging a light on these lesser known films, gonna check em out right now!
Edit: Just finished watching all 3, Wow, liked them all a lot. Some really good films I'll be thinking about for a while, very unique experiences. Thanks again for recommending these, I might have to check out more of his filmography even if it doesn't seem he's done that many good films after this, though I noticed he did write and direct a TV show about a relationship with 2 step-siblings which has some solid reviews, so might be worth checking out. He also has a movie coming out this year which seems like it could be a return to form.
You should check out his play fat pig. They never made a movie of it. By today's standards, people would be sensitive and probably trash it, but he does bring to light prejudice towards people who are overweight. And why people can be cowards even though there is someone great in their life.
Paul Rudd was excellent casting for The Shape of Things…he is so good as the Everyman character but definitely handsome enough to become the “improved” version. His natural charm allows the audience to remain empathetic at the end despite his flaws.
That's Paul Rudd exactly!
These early Neil movies were my jam while I was in film school. Still have the DVDs for Friends & Neighbors and In Company of Men. Shame he couldn't keep up this style of filmmaking however probably not broad enough for the typical audience members.
Many thanks for making us remember how much Neil LaBute is a fine director! Sadly he's underrated.
Stunning! I really like that you choose to analyize rather unkown movies here. I am so suprised that they have such a star line up. I loved every second of this! Thank you!
This was very good. Interesting and original ideas. Well done.
These sadistic villains are psychopaths. And psychopaths are all too real.
But remember that most psychopaths are not sadistic villains.
Great analysis of these works! I'm doing a presentation on Neil LaBute and I'm using some of this video as an example of how some people interpret LaBute's themes. Thanks for the insightful and entertaining video essay!
The shape of things has to be the most brutal movie I've seen on a psychological level cuz she built this man from the ground up and helped him level up then destroyed him in mere seconds come the end and I swear he was never gonna be the same again nor trust a soul ever for any reason.
I love how it exposes the hypocrisy of, well, _ALL_ societies. You wouldn't allow Kim Jong-un to inject untested products into your infant child, would you?
But as soon as someone your subconscious sees as _"MY_ Government" or peers says "do this" you don't even _consider_ the bare fact that it *is* untested. Everything becomes about not risking rejection from either group out of fear.
I've always felt that a dark comedy is by far the eeriest and most uncomfortable genre of all, sometimes much more than horror films or thrillers. At their very best, they slyly and subtly reflect the true darkness and bleakness at the heart of life, often being wise enough to disguise itself as a broad comedy or a lighthearted satire. Along with In The Company of Men, here are some of my other favorites:
The King of Comedy
The Heartbreak Kid (1972)
Monsieur Verdoux
Unfaithfully Yours (1948)
Kind Hearts and Coronets
Divorce, Italian Style
River's Edge
Buffalo 66
World's Greatest Dad
Man Bites Dog
Modern Romance
Catch-22
Wag The Dog
Shallow Grave
Citizen Ruth
Force Majeure
A New Leaf
The Ruling Class
Very Bad Things
Heavy Traffic
Prizzi's Honor
Under The Silver Lake
Election
Crimes and Misdemenours
Fritz The Cat
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover
Investigation of A Citizen Above Suspicion
Thanks for the recommendations mate.
May I recommend two series written and starring Ricky Gervais.
The first is called "Derek" about a man with some form of learning disability who volunteers in a nursing home for the elderly, and the other is "After Life" which revolves around a local journalist trying to come to terms with the death of his beloved wife, while just not giving a care about the consequences of his actions.
Both shows have the capacity make you howl with laughter, but also become gut-wrenchingly sad within a single episode.
Thanks again for the list 👍
I had never heard of these films until I saw this so I watched this up until the spoilers then stopped it and found the movies and watched each one. Man, these are all tough to watch. He is a master at creating reprehensible characters. Rachael Weisz was brilliant in The Shape of Things. I think that was my favorite of these three.
You can see the same clinical approach in Ari Aster and Todd Solondz. Great video.
Although this is one of your lesser viewed videos, it is one of my favorites and introduced me to 3 excellent films I had never heard of. I would love it if you would go in-depth with lesser known films more often, it’s wonderful!
Thank you! Yes I make more of these types of videos
just watching some of those clips from the first two movies (I haven't seen the third, but might look it up) made me tense and anxious, and I haven't watched them since about the time they came out...
That's power.
I'm not a cinephile but I watched all three movies the past few days thanks to this video.
I was expecting them to have an impact, at least while watching them, but they were quite bearable -- maybe except for "Your friends and neighbors" where that bathroom monologue made me sick to my stomach. In fact, it was the first time I saw a movie where all the characters were despicable and unlikable, and at the same time I felt I wasn't supposed to know what goes in their lives, like seeing their darkest and most intimate thoughts and habits. Thanks for the recommendation! :))
"In the company of men" had a morally disturbing plot, indeed, but in the end I felt the woman would be okay and would overcome the trauma; I just felt that she was a lot stronger than she seemed and I rooted for her. As for the two men, they didn't leave much of an impression on me; it happens a lot in real life to see how the "bully" overlaps with the "nice guy". What annoyed me in particular was the constant misogynistic dialogue but it fit the characters.
"The Shape of Things" was the most interesting, in my opinion, because it raised a good question about how far can one go to create art (well, look at how far Labute went! Maybe he was trying to answer a question he might have had for himself). The characters were fun to watch and I didn't hate any of them in the end. You talked about Evelyn manipulating Adam (oh, what cute but predictable name choices -- Adam and Eve(lyn)), but what about Adam who became healthier and more confident thanks to her and ended up cheating? The movie feels balanced (in a twisted way) because both characters were horrible and unethical to each other.
I found I kind of like Labute's work and started reading "Autobahn" out of curiosity. I think he's good at showing the worst in people and pushes the limits of discomfort but at the same time remains "commercial" -- I mean, the movies don't seem pretentious like only a select few could appreciate them at a festival. They're accessible and grounded, showing the lives of people that you may have already met.
Thank you for the amazing video essays!
Thank you for introducing me to these excellent movies, great video
Fantastic video man! All of these have the same vibes as happiness, and I've been trying to understand what genre that film is other than disturbing and these are great additions to that group! Keep it up
so glad i found your channel. excellent work sir.
I’m definitely going to try and find these films and check them out, and review them on my channel. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Sociopathic women accurately portrayed in movies absolutely terrify me because I’ve actually dealt with one
Very well done!! These kinds of movies are amazing because they’re real. Hollywood endings are sometimes forced and unnatural.
Please, please cover the Irish series called The Fall with Gillian Anderson and Jaime Dornan. It was Fantastic but no one really talks about it.
It was really good.
Wow, a 100k+ sub channel talking about Neil LaBute! I've desperately wanted to rewatch his movies but they're so hard to find.
They say the worst reason to do anything bad is because you can.these three characters prove it.
12:01 please dont forget that Howard physically, mentally/manipulation,seeing her as a game(20 % of what the other guy did gave the mental trauma to that girl) abused in that car scenes
the other guy physically didn't abuse that girl,but mentally he was devastating to that girl.
Goat drops another banger video 🔥🐐
I'm glad I have indeed heard of him and way before his Wicker Man remake. In the company of Men and Your friends & Neighbours are excellent films. Reminds me a lot also cos they came out around the same time, Todd Solondz's first two movies, Welcome to the Dollhouse and Happiness. I wonder if other people think of that as well.
you were not kidding about them being hard to find.
Amazing playwright and filmmaker. He unravels the nature of man like very few people. His play Fat Pig was my introduction
25 years later, I'd completely buried the fact I'd seen "In the Company of Men." Pretty sure I saw "Your Friends and Neighbors" in the theatre with friends--which is kind of funny because I just saw did really badly. Both are nadirs of humanity but enjoyed your commentary on them.
Good timing when his new film has a trailer release a day after this.
Your Friends and Neighbors realllly fucked me up with that sauna speech. I think I caught it on HBO around 1999 when I was about 15. This video just reactivated it. Thanks! Also, good video.
The Shape of Things might be the most slap-in-the-face take on the Manic Pixie Dream Girl I’ve ever seen.
I absolutely must get others to see it
"Emotional snuff film". Spot on
Eckhart was MONSTROUS in that flick.
He's my new Ethan Hawke: can give outstanding performances. But can fall utterly flat too.
What was more disturbing was that all the other guys went along with everything he said like when he was making fun of the deaf girl saying she probably has a voice like a dolphin. The other guy starts laughing hysterically like this is the funniest joke he has ever heard.
LaBute himself is the villain he depicts, as the (theatre world at least) has turned their back on him for sexual harassment
This is important and should be mentioned. This may be why he has such an insight.
It sounds to me like this is the kind of discomfort I could stomach, as opposed to BB's and horror movies' intentionally drawn out scenes with inevitable payoff.
he was ahead of his time...unfortunately most of the new generation never heard of him
I can't watch most movies with realistic and/or well-acted sociopaths because I've had two extended encounters with them in the past.
And one of them even meets all the classic criteria (bedwetting/violence against animals/pyromania), so yeah, that's not a pseudo-diagnosis either.
I can't stand it when they show up in movies. Maybe Nightcrawler is a really good movie, but I'll never know from experience.
But at the same time, I praise their realistic portrayal in movies, the more people become aware of how these people can behave, the better.
Fantastic video
>in the company of men
>main guy is named Chad
Dude was ahead of the curve
I saw The Shape of Things twice when it was off Broadway way back in 2001 in NYC. It’s a better play than film. There were actually a lot of laughs in it due to Paul Rudd for the most part. He’s great at playing awkward.
I think Your Friends and Neighbors is a pretty chilling movie. Jason Patric seems almost too perfect for this role.
Great video.
The shape of things fucked me up as a kid!
I’ve only seen nurse Betty I think. My friend was watching the shape of things on tv once and it spoiled the ending but I guess I’ll give it all a try.
What’s the music playing at 14:44?
I went through a period in my youth, that I bet a lot of supposed cinefiles do. "I need the harrdest, realest, darkest shit I can get my hands on." LIke the more depraved the media was, the "realer" it would be. Toward the end of that period, someone gave me "...Company of Men" because they knew how dark my tastes were. I never finished it. I only got about 3-5 minutes in and turned it off. I stopped this essay about halfway through to finish it and watch the other two films. I am glad I did. Thank you for this.
Jason Patric is the grandson of Jackie Gleason. Mind you, Jason is an excellent actor but make no mistake that Jason got his breakout role as a teen vampire from Lost Boys
Anyone knows how to watch his films from outside US? I’m from italy and they are nowhere to be found. Also most of his plays are not traslated yet. 😭
I don’t really see why stories like these wouldn’t get told today. Realistic human monsters are a perennial terror and maybe the settings would be updated but not the type of characters
grate video !!
Recommend any Aaron Echkart movies? Love the actor, but just don't know many good, realistic, captivating movies to watch with him in it :/. Seen dark Knight and that's bout I can remember.
The only one I know is "Thank You for Smoking" which I remember liking quite a lot
I never heard of "in the company of men".... is this where the term chad comes from or was the character named after the term?
It started in Chicago. Some website. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_(slang)
@@lpr5269 i don't trust wiki
YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS was the first film Rotten Tomatoes ever reviewed.
interesting.
I'd never watch this if you haven't mentioned it. but...
now I'm curious an I think it could help me make better villains.
we had physical abusers, now it's trendy for psychological ... I think we'll enter a new age of emotional ones, especially with all the social media and depression films coming out.
Are you familiar with Neil LaButte’s play In a Forest, Dark and Deep? In 2011, Matthew Fox and Olivia Williams portrayed the main characters in the play. While the play got mixed reviews, their performances were well received.
I’ve read The Shape of Things in my theater class and after finishing it, I cannot believe how someone would use them for a project and changing their looks. As for the playwright of Neil Labute, I dislike him cause he’s creating these kind of characters in a way to take the deeper side of the rabbit hole
That's like saying because someone made a movie about WWII, they're supporters of Hitler. Context is everything. Is he *glorifying* this, making it appear evil or neither?
@@choosecarefully408 He literally is a sex abuser lol
i only watch The Shape of Things, because Rudd and Weisz
safe to say, if i watch this first before The Mummy 1-2, i can guarantee i can never like Weisz
Why? She’s an actor.
manic pixie dream girl but evil??? bro might be onto something
For me, it's so different in succession from the thick of it. In succession these people are really suffering, you don't see that in the thick of it, just their pure greed and stupidity.
Fun fact: The Shape of Things started as a play with the same cast.
Wow! Zero chance they would make these today, especially the first two
I can't imagine why these films don't have bluray releases.... /s
Of these 3 villains, which is the worst?
Probably Cary in Your Friends and Neighbors played by Jason Patric.
Never watched any of these.
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Oh god except that one with the shower monologue. Long forgot the title etc but that monologue haunts you.
I remember thinking I don't like any of these people so what's the point of watching.
Rachel Weisz as The Manic Pixie Nightmare Girl?
How could she treat Paul Rudd that way? What a monster.
my problem with "the shape of things" has always been that no art department or psych department for that matter would ever approve of a student thesis that involved deceiving someone into getting plastic surgery 😂
That allows me to believe that Paul Rudd sued the shit out of EVERYONE after the credits roll
You sure??
Stanford. 1970s….
Thank you!! I've never heard of these films! I'll watch them right away - this here is the REAL evil
Lakeview terrace enough said
Evelyn is a very real type and what disgusts me the most is there was a time I would have admired her for artistic integrity.
His name is Chad.
What’s your accent? I can’t tell if it’s Irish, english, or American?
Sounds Irish to me, but not that strong an accent.
Very subtle Irish. He sounds like a light version of the Irish guy who has a true crime UA-cam channel called That Chapter. Except he pronounces the TH in "three" and "thirteen" whereas the other guy says "tree" and "Tirteen".
In other words, illustrating the small scale banilty of evil....😒🙄
i thought they were gonna kill the deaf chick
Emotional snuff. Ugh. I thought 'In the company of men' could have been rated X for emotional trauma.
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Couldn’t agree more!
This is a very good representation. You give some opinion, but basically leave the discussion open. The crowd however is highly uncomfortable with that. Not surprisingly.
No one who isn't Black can ever be called "African-American." Yet this 100% race-based name-calling is regarded as bias-free because Someone In Authority assured us so. Whereas the N-word is unacceptable no matter the context. & who determined all of this?
We used to live in communities before the nuclear family. The family is inadequate. People feel a *need* to know where they stand within the group. Even if it's at the bottom rung of a ladder, most people feel way more secure knowing which rung it is.
A huge part of domestic abuse is exactly just this, asserting ones place within a two-person group, combined with an inability to do it anywhere else: not at work, the bar, the gym. Not *consistently* anyway.
So people seek outlets. Things like this result.
I feel like American Psycho does this but with added murder.
I may be a horrible person... Well... Lets not doubt it... I am... But i never thought i would be as bad as this people and i feel so identified w them... Maybe i need help...
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Oh my God.
Excuse me, but I strongly disagree.
Man I loved those films when they came out. I wonder if "wokeness" is to blame for their disappearance.
These movies look pretty boring tbh
I think Chad from in the company of men was the good guy. He was on a quest for revenge after being heartbroken. A feeling most men can relate to
He was lying about being heartbroken, though. The scene at the end shows that his girlfriend's still with him; she never left him.
He didn't do it for "revenge", he did it... for fun, basically.
@@hankbarcelona7314 Woah, that's crazy
I've liked many of your videos so far, but this one has a few moments that seem sexist. You claim that the actions of the men are misogynistic, but in the last example of a woman behaving that way, you don't say it is misandrist; so it is sexist when a man does it, but not when a woman does it? Also, you say that a woman rightfully slaps a man for laughing at her, but I wonder if you'd feel it was just as justified if a man slapped a woman for the same behavior. There was a third example that I've since lost, and I don't feel like rewatching it to find it again, but I do remember it is similar to the first two examples, in which you have double-standards for behavior between the sexes- it is wrong when men do it, and okay when women do it. Call me a sexist I guess (nowadays egalitarianism is sexist, lol), but I think there should be the same standard of behavior for both sexes- women don't need/deserve special treatment, they are just as capable as men of being held to account for their behavior (and also equally capable of monstrous/cruel acts). Again, I have enjoyed many of your videos so far, but this one had three examples of double standards in your estimation of the characters' behavior (standards which seem determined by which genitals the character possesses).
lol