Amped Outdoors 12ah Teardown
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2021
- In this video, I teardown and review the Amped Outdoors 12ah. At the end of this video I compare this battery to the Dakota Lithium 10ah.
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I really like your videos. Keep up the good work. Love the technical details and verification holding manufacturers accountable.
I AM YOUR NEWEST SUB. I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE. TODAY, I WAS GOING TO ORDER A 48 VOLT LITHIUM FROM DAKOTA, HOWEVER, AFTER SEEING YOUR BREAKDOWN I AM GONNA CONSIDER THE AMPED OUT LINE UP. I CANT THANK YOU ENOUGH! GOD BLESS
And thank you as well for your Service, too, Jeremy!! Merry Christmas to you and yours!! God Bless!! I have been a Ham Radio operator since I was 8 years old, building transmitters and shortwave Class B linear power amps in all those years. After 22 years, and my USAF military retirement from flying the President, I transitioned to a radar tech for some 26 years, tracking test ICBM's launched from Vandenberg AFB....With all that electronic tech history, I SO appreciate seeing a GREAT TECHNICIAN AT WORK! ...and you are THAT MAN, JEREMY!! You are DEFINITELY a CLASS ACT!! Thank you for updating me on all the latest developments in Lithium batteries, as well!!
Thank you so much! Merry Christmas! Your comment made my week!
Another great video and thanks for doing these reviews. It is always good to get a good break down of what you are buying
Thanks man! Glad you're getting something out of them!
Awesome review!! I hope that your family are doing well and your company is moving up in volume of sales! Being a military retired veteran myself, I feel an SPECIAL kinship to your efforts, and your videos!!
It has been a crazy year! Thank you for your service!
I believe your most straight forward no nonsense informative guy on UA-cam when it comes to lithium batteries. Thank you I have learned so much 🇺🇸🇬🇧
That's the goal, no BS. Thanks for watching!
As always great stuff!
Thanks, I’m learning and taking notes on testing.
I am learning a lot too! Thanks for the support!
Enjoy the videos and your honest approach to testing.
Thank you!
Great stuff man! I use a Bass Pro tracker lithium 12v/12ah battery for my fish finder on my little 14 foot Starcraft. Its in a Bold North Outdoors battery station box. I also run my anchor light and nav lights to it (wired thru a fuse panel of course). It does fairly well for a 12ah but sometimes I pull all nighters fishing for Flathead Catfish and I need more juice. I just discovered that Amped sells a 19ah battery that is the same case size as a 12ah! Which means it will fit perfectly in my Bold North Outdoors battery box. Totally awesome however on their website it says currently out of stock. Definitely keeping my eyes open for that to be back in stock so I can purchase it. 12ah to 19ah that is the same size allowing it to fit into my battery box is good news. I also use it for ice fishing. Furthermore great content brother, I was going to buy the Norsk 15ah but your videos have encouraged me to wait for the Amped to be back in stock.
Thanks for your video. Very informative. Gave me the info I needed to make a sound on the battery for my fish finder power.
Glad I could help
Thanks great content. Your making purchase decision easy.
i'm not a fishing enthusiast, that said, I find your videos extremely educational on lifepo4 batteries and what I call and i'm now building my own power boxesfor personal use currently with small electronics. Will be building a box to power my ham shack. Also, appliances in the house. All solar or grid chargeable.
Glad that you found them helpful! Thank you Larry!
Thank You very much. I’ve never seen the inside of one of the Lithium batteries 🔋 before. I just purchased a 60AH from Amped outdoors for my Bow mounted Motorguide Xi3 and this will help me too know what’s inside the case. So a Bug Thank You.
Thanks for doing these videos Ive learned the difference on build quality per manufacture and with your education and background you might be able to fill a niche market opportunity. To build the best damn 12v small form cold weather battery out there for us Ice-fisher people! Take the cold temp sensor that your looking for from other manufactures and make your battery array the way you want it and bingo IHP 12v battery production is born!
The thought has crossed my mind. But honestly, I don't know what I want to do when I grow up lol.
Very helpful, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I love my Amped 18ah. I’ve beat the snot out of it the past 2 years. -25F with 20mph wind. 100 degree temps. Wind, sleet, snow!! No problems
It's a beast!!
Never gets too Cold in N. California, but my Amped 18Ah lasts multiple days on my Helix 7 and in temps 100+. It seems well built and great price point.
I like how clean your shop is! I really appreciate the work you are doing in these videos! I am looking for a battery(s) for portable Ham radio, as well as for my ammo box Garmin striker 4 ice box/canoe box build. It is sort of sad that Dakota Lithium is now assembled in China. I suppose if pretty much all battery packs are manufactured there anyway, it just makes sense... Oh well. Thank you for the videos!
Thanks! Yeah, huge disappointment.
The rebel seems like the bomb in this 12ah area
I’m loving the videos man. New subscriber here
Thanks so much!!!
Thank you! I'd like to see one of the 14.8v batteries done!
Coming soon!
Because of this video I purchased the amped 19 nmc battery.
Thank you for these reviews. As ice season is approaching I am focusing on weight reduction anywhere I can. I am getting a lighter weight auger system this year and I feel batteries for the flasher is another good place to start. I am in the market for batteries and I feel you helped me make up my mind on which route I am going. Thanks again
That is exactly the reason I am doing these videos. Glad you got something out of them!!
Just a side note this battery is currently going for$79. Thanks again.
The new Vex size Amped Outdoors 15 ah battery. Still no cold charge circuit but I’m an AO fan.
Chins and all the other cheap Amazon 10 ahto 12 ah batteries thanks for the video
Well I ended up getting the 2 pack of the Dakota 7ah last year for $109 and wish I had seen this sooner!! I hope the warranty is worth something.
FPV Power 17.5AH battery!!! Popular battery for kayak fishing.
Thanks for the suggestion! I want to get through LiFeP04 batteries first before moving on to other chemistries.
The ole painters tool. Works great for tearing down all kinds of things!
That thing has so many uses!
Would love to see an objective test of a Bioenno battery, especially one of the higher amp hour hard cased models BLF 1230AS or the BLF 1250AS. I'm looking for ham radio use in the field.
Great review. Have you tested any of the Aolithium batteries from Amazon and Ebay?
I use an 80AH amped outdoors lithium battery in my kayak it runs everything….best battery I’ve ever used
It's a solid battery
Greetings and thanks for all the outstanding informative videos.....What lithium charger for these type/size lithium batteries? Also, what size or power (ah?) little Lithium battery can I use to power two 12 foot strips of LED Plash lights for my jon boat?
Now that Dakota is Made in China, I am glad I saved some $$ and went with Amped. Thanks for the breakdown, will wait for more.
The Dakota that was made in China was a good battery. Amped is also made in China
@@iceholepower8012 Exactly, I think now that both are made in China and are close in quality the Amped is a better "deal". Or at least not a bad purchase. A lot of people went with Dakota because it was made in USA and thought that also came with better quality controls. My 18Ah Amped was $70 cheaper than Dakota. Bioenno is also a battery that I'd buy again.
Off topic, I see all the 3D printers running in the background, I don't know a thing about 3D printers, it sure looks like you have standardized on one brand. Some of us would find it interesting if you wanted to review a printer and speak on an in-house component or 2 that you are printing with it. ~ Thanks. Your shop is cool by the looks of things!
Ohhh, good idea!
@Wild Urban Adventures ender. Ender 3 pro or v2 is an excellent choice for a first printer. Theres tons of tutorials, parts, settings, and everything else needed to get started.
I have used my first ender 3 to make transducer adapters for my kayak, rail mount accessories, campind needs, and tons of other stuff (including lower receivers). One of the ender 3 is my kids now. It has opened them up to a world of STEM and they love it.
At the beginning of the school year they can be had for $99 and microcenter throws in a spool of PLA.
Have you done any reviews on the FPV-Power batteries??? Interested on your thoughts on those batteries
Is there a voltage draw display you would recommend for when I build a power box?
gREAT VIDEOS, THANK YOU FOR THE INFO. i WAS WATCHING ANOTHER CHANNEL AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT CYCLES AND EFFECTIVE CAPACITY. Dakota is Lithium IRON and Ampd is Nickle something. Lithium iron has 4000 cycles and 98% drawdown while Nickle has i think a 1000 cycles and 80% effective capacity. Could you please comment on this. I just bought a Garmin 75 echomap with lv34 livescope for icefishing and would like to make the best battery choice I can to run this for weekend fishing trips.
I currently have livescope (both black box and graph) connected to my crank battery in the back of the boat. I'd like to connect directly to the AMPED without modifying the connecting hardware (clamp, wing nut, etc) so that I can easily toggle between the crank battery and the AMPED. I'm wondering if there is a way to extend the AMPED terminal to where I can connect the livescope cable to it just like I do within my crank battery. Thanks
New Subscriber and I've probably watched all your videos twice over the last couple days. I plan on ordering the Blue box kit this week. Can I make a request? Can you do a teardown on the 12ah Tracker Lithium from Cabela's? I just bought one for my blue box build and am now curious if it's on par with Amped.
Thanks for subscribing! I will add that battery to the list! Thanks for the suggestion!
Enjoy all your video’s. Do you have any thoughts on Lifepo4 chargers.
Typically i use amped chargers. they have been reliable for me. Did you have a specific charger question?
Would love to see inside a DL 23AH
Me too! Probably next week!
Thanks for the video and reviews on these batteries! What make/model is that yellow desktop vacuum?!? :-)
Checkout the video description, I have a few links in there including the solder vacuum. Thanks for watching!
Best batts fory wheelchair it has two 12 volt batts
I'd be curious to see Amped Outdoors 19Ah 14.8v NMC battery
Do a amped 32ah NMC batt tear down
Thanks for the suggestion! Its on the list!
How would you protect this Amped battery from water when used in a kayak?
Thanks for the great video. What is the weight of this battery? That would be a good thing as some hole hoppers do think about that.
2lb 12oz for the Amped 12ah. I will weigh them in future videos. Thanks!!
Nice videos. I think the link at the end you the cheap Amazon battery is wrong as it says 7ah Dakota Lithium.
Thanks! I will take a look
What’s keeping theses batteries from lasting 29-30 years ? The average Joe may charge their battery 30-50 times a year . How does time effect them ? Do they have a shelf life ? What about the chemicals and components that you can’t see , like the lithium and phosphate. How does the quality of those differ . For example, I have bought a lot of ryobi battery tools , this was before the lithium battery. They were basically junk , disposable at best . However the same type of battery chemistry from brands like Makita and Bosch lasted sometimes decades. I’m curious to know if the lithium phosphate material itself not all created equal Thank You
I have a minnkota 80 lbs thrust 24 volt trolling motor in your opinion what is the best battery I should buy tired of running out off power (THANKS)
Hi Jeremy! I just bought and received the Amped 18ah and Deluxe DIY Box. Thank you! I’m super impressed with your kit. I added in the 3amp charger and SAE port as well. I planned to someday add a solar charge controller and solar but I saw that the Amped BMS talk to each other. When the Amped battery is fully discharged, you need the Amped charger to reset the BMS. Is there a way around this? Can I just be careful land not fully discharge the battery, and if I do, only use the Amped charger to start the charging cycle?
…BMS and charger talk to each other…
You only need that if it goes into low voltage protection mode. Usually won't happen unless drain the battery and don't charge it for a while. It's not something that happens often.
Please review there new 12v 15ah battery. It’s the same fit/form size as there 12v 12ah battery.
I have been running one of my UPS with this very same battery since november 2019. We have brownouts and blackouts everyday. I use it to run a modem/router setup (I get roughly 6 hours out of it) and sometimes a 32-inch TV and a DirecTV receiver (I get 40 minutes out of it). The battery started to suffer recently... Would you recommend me to go for the same battery again (I heard they updated it and now it's 12V 15ah) or is there any better option in this form factor?
Would like to see the marcum battery
Thanks for the suggestion! It is next!
Please do eco worthy
I want to see Abyss tear down. They are expensive, want to know if they are worth it
Can you check out the expert power lithium iron phosphate battery
Just bought one, thanks!
I got a 100ah 12 weize battery that has low temp cut off for 250 on Amazon havnt seen one since. I need a capacity tester to make sure it's all good or a flop. It works . I've done calculations but what I've used as a load fluctuates with current draw . I need a steady current draw to be accurate
The Amped 12Ah has been upgraded to a 15Ah!!! ampedoutdoors.com/collections/lifepo4-battery/products/15ah-lithium-battery-lifepo4?aff=8
Hello sir , I have the same cap tester and I change mines up due I get better number , the way to do it is to. Hangs up the mosfet under the heat shrink fan it comes stander with a 50A mos put a 150A mos they’re the same size in width but just a little more thicker and you’ll see how your testing will give you better numbers ??? Thank you 🙏 sir and God bless America simplify
Thanks for the tip
Thanks for the videos, How do these types of batteries stack up against using a cordless tool battery for instance a Milwaukee M18? Just ordered a Livescope Ice kit and trying to decide which route to go. Thanks
Great question! I will be making some drill battery teardown videos soon
I don't know much about batteries. How many cells does the Amped 12ah have? I'm trying to set my Battery Capacity Indicator. Thank you for the reviews. I bought amped because of your review. I picked my 12ah for $80 from Amped outdoors
They are asking for the number of cells in series, set it for 4 cells. Thanks for watching!!
Do a Redodo 10Ah battery if you can. 🙂
We keep our boat in a boat slip setup to charge all batteries with one electric cord with the different chargers we have on board. Our question is we have a amp outdoors 18 ah with amp outdoors charger. Does it hurt to leave the charger plugged in after the battery is finished charging from a day of fishing and the temp drops below freezing at night. The battery gets charged every time we come in from fishing every week or so. The battery runs our Live Scope. The battery is always finished charging by the time we have any freezing weather. We live in the south so we don't see very much freezing weather. Thanks for your help
I would say you are good to go with that setup. Just don't want the cells to be below 32 degrees while charging. If it is done charging before that happens then leaving it plugged into your charger should be fine because the battery charging circuit would of already opened.
Great question BTW!!
What is your opinion on Amped outdoors 14.8V NMC battery?? Worried alittle about safety in my bassboat. Don't think I will charge an NMC while it's in my boat.
I’ve been leaning towards the Dakota 12V 18ah. I had the Amped 12ah and it quit taking a charge on me this summer and would only show 3.7ish volts.
No kidding? Have to talked to the company? 3.7v seems like you're only reading one cell. Did it get wet?
@@iceholepower8012 Not that I’m aware of. I wasn’t sure what thier warranty was. I think I purchased it from you, but it’s a couple years old maybe?? I couldn’t find my invoice/email info from your on line store.
Please shoot me an email at Jeremy@iceholepower.com with your name and address. I will look up your order and get it sorted out.
Like to see brakedown of Marcos lithium force 12ah & brute 10 ah ! What are your thoughts?
I plan on the 12ah, thanks for the suggestion!
Did a capacity test of the amped outdoors new 15 ah lifepo4 and only got 12.76 ah with a total of 164 watt hours...total drainage time took 10 hours 16 min at a 1 amp load. Can you review the 15 ah 12 lithium battery please? Ending voltage is 12.14 volts. Top charge was only 13.6 volts while the other two peak at 14.2 volts fully charged. What is going on? Please help!
30 ah amped outdoors battery should be next since I own it and am curious on your review of it
wide or tall?
@@iceholepower8012 tall
I appreciate your reviews and the effort/expense involved but I don't understand your description of series/parallel. How can you have 18650 cells "6 in series"? The nominal value of a 18650 is 3.2V and a fully charged is approximately 4.2V maximum. Therefore, 6 in series of a fully charged 18650 would be 6 X 4.2V or 25.2V...then those in parallel would yield a battery, fully charged, of 25.2V. Please clarify or correct me. Thanks.
I had to rewatch my explanation a couple times after seeing your comment. It is a 4S6P pack meaning we have 4 series cells, each are made up from 6 cells that are in parallel. When I said "those 6 are in series with those 6" I meant the 6 cells that are in parallel are in series with the 6 parallel cells next to it. I appricate you watching and I will work on polishing up my explanation!
Lets see the vexilar battery next.
Next week!
So I should wait until my amped 12ah batteries warm up before charging them?
Yes, don't charge them when they are below freezing.
What's your opinion on Bass pro Tracker lithium batterers
here you go. Thanks for watching! ua-cam.com/video/QvOJUAOkKDM/v-deo.html
How long for it take to charge this battery when you first got it, and then after running it down like you did in this test? What is the battery loss overtime, while it’s setting sting waiting to be used, if you know?
Great questions! Like all lithium batteries, they are shipped with a 30% charge. 30% of a 12ah battery is 3.6. We recommend the Amped 3 amp charger so we will use that in this example. The difference between 12 and 3.6 is 8.4. So when a guy first gets the battery and uses an amped charger it will take 2.8 hours to charge it. 8.4/3amps=2.8 hours.
If the battery was fully discharged we would calculate the charge time by taking 12ah/3amp charger = 4 hours of charge time.
And the charge loss overtime with this chemistry is very very low. Like 2-4% per month. Thanks for watching!
Can you do a nermak brand battery
ua-cam.com/video/ESEJH4JaBlw/v-deo.html
Two 20Ah went bad. One after a year and another after 6mo. Would run my Ham Radio for about 20 minutes and then the voltage was too low. Was using their charger as well. Nothing but Alibaba batteries with their label slapped on it.
Do the marcum king next
Thanks for the suggestion! I did do the Brute, ua-cam.com/video/w5e4GbYOLHM/v-deo.html I will add the King to the list!
Have you done Miller tech marine batteries
not yet but they are on my list
Question. Do you think they might be getting low temp input from the thermistor? Does it have the range?
No, it is for high temp protection. I have confirmed with Amped that it does not have low temp protection.
Like to see the Amped 48ah NMC @ 3.0amp draw
Thanks for the suggestion! If the channel grows to the point where I can justify the cost of the bigger batteries, I will void the warranty on them!
@@iceholepower8012 I'm more interested in just the capacity test
I am buying one of your boxes just trying to figure out what battery to get Will be running lights and a glow cup
We build them with Amped, but if you go the DIY route. I would look at Amped, Dakota 10ah, Vexilar, or the Marcum 10Ah.
I love the tests you perform with these batteries and I am interested in one of your powerboxes when you open bk up.good luck out there ice fishing 🎣
Can you do a review and teardown for the new Amped Outdoors 19Ah Lithium Battery (14.8V NMC) .
I have it on my list. Thanks for watching
Can a lithium charger be used to charge an sla battery? Have a lithium battery and charger but still use sla on another flasher. Wondering if I can safely used the lithium charger or do I need to keep bringing both chargers. Thanks!
Hey Matt, thanks for watching! Bring both chargers. The lithium charger charges at a higher voltage. Never use it on your SLA batteries.
All apples and oranges if you ask me but great video otherwise because if you're comparing what's to compare when there's an 11, 5, & 1yr warranty with all of these batteries? Regardless of quality, it'd behoove everyone to buy the 11 yr battery.
Have you looked at mtech lithium yet?
Not yet, but I plan on it!
Man your videos are great! Unfortunately I’ve tried but I don’t understand any of it! Lol! Can you just tell me what battery would be best for running my Garmin echomap uhd 73sv on my kayak for about 6-8hrs on the water? Weight is no big deal for me
Thanks man, your 73sv draws .8A. The battery shown in this video would run it for 15 hours. 12Ah/.8A=15h
@@iceholepower8012 cool I went with the 10ah by Dakota lithium
@@WesAlexander good pick!
I have a 19 ah 14.8 v lithium ion nmc.. is this Aunt battery going to be good to run on my helix mega live unit bundle? Versus the norske 20 amp that they sell with hummingbird ice bundle.
I meant to say amp battery not aunt
Can you do a comparison between the American assembled dakota lithium 10ah batteries and the Chinese 10ah dakota lithium batteries. I want to see if quality of the American assembled 10ah were as bad as the 7.5ah ones.
That's a great idea, I will have to find one. Thanks for the suggestion!!
@@iceholepower8012 please keep the videos coming.
Do you know what the difference is between the old amped 12ah and the newer 15ah one?
3Ah
I have zero experience with Dakota. I've had a 12ah in my marcum for 2 years. I have only one complaint. The charger.
Didn’t Marcum come out with a lithium battery?
Just got done shooting that video, stay tuned ;)
So is it a bad idea to charge your battery when it is cold?
You don't want to charge it if it is below freezing. I will be making a video on the topic soon.
Have you looked at Norsk Lithium Batteries?
not yet, getting though the batteries lifep04 first. But it is in the plan
@@iceholepower8012 have been really interested in them. Definitely with the usb ports built in.
Marcum battery, next video?
It is!
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THANK YOU!!!!
@@iceholepower8012 Thank You, your content and information has been a Significant Help in with understanding these Lithium Batteries are made, there Quality and there function. Right now I'm pretty much sold on the Amped Brand for the Quality and Cost. You also helped me in regards to my Helix Fish Finder battery. I was using just a Naqua, but, after watching your previous videos I'm going to not run this pouch style battery and instead just go with the Amped 12V 12AH battery, your info sold me 100%. I have a Amped 60AH for my Bow Mount Xi3, so I'm going too stick with only Amped. The Dakota's seem pretty good also, but the way they opened for you didn't seem like a Good Seal, I know the Amped aren't Fully Sealed neither, but, they seemed to be sealed better. FPV's seem too be the most Waterproof, but they are Pricey. And Bioenno's I here are pretty good, but they are also super Expensive, and I'm not a Fan of how they are they are sealed and hiw they have Pre installed cables. Anyways, Thank You again. 😎👍
How about some of the better Amazon batteries like the weize and chin brand lithiums
Yeah, would be nice to see a Weize 10 Ah LiFePO4 Teardown for sure.
Thanks for the suggestion! I just ordered the Weize 10AH
I have one on the way
@@iceholepower8012 Thanks, I look forward to seeing it. I'm about to get some of these to replace some failed AGM VRLA batteries. Will be interesting to see how the internals compare to their larger siblings.
Can you do a tear down of a "Bioenno" battery next? They seem legit...
I do have them on my list. Thanks for the suggestion Andres!
How about the 7ah? Just bought one but don't see a tear down. Edit: just saw this video was only a month ago I will wait patiently
The Dakota Lithium 7Ah?? ua-cam.com/video/jFMKJZJT5x8/v-deo.html
Or did you mean the Amped 6Ah?
@@iceholepower8012 amped
Norsk next?
I want to do LiFeP04 batteries first before moving on to other chemistries.
I wonder how a Bioenno compares?
I do too, they are not really popular with the ice fishing crowd but I will put them on my list. Thanks for the suggestion!!
Just to put it out there...Bioenno states in their instructions NOT to run in series OR parallel. Their BMS is set up for single battery only. Ham radio guys talk a lot about them.
Good to know. Thanks for the info!!
If you do choose to run parallel, again NOT recommended, then.
Parallel: Also, measure the internal resistance of each battery and only use batteries with closely matched internal resistance. It is highly recommended that resistors be used to achieve equal internal resistance among multiple batteries. It is also highly recommended to add fuse(s) to the circuit for safety reasons.
Thanks for asking. I use a Bioenno with my ham radio power box.