Eco-Worthy 10Ah Review and Teardown
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- In this video I teardown and review the Eco-Worthy 10Ah LiFeP04 battery.
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This panel can put out close to 100 watts ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxOqI2yqX0XVrhR2BMJciTWrHJpG8FhJyg when positioned in the appropriate southernly direction, tilted to the optimal angle for your latitude/date, and connected to a higher capacity device than a 500. The built in kickstand angle is a fixed at 50 degrees. Up to 20% more power can be output by selecting the actual date and latitude optimal angle.The 500 will only input 3.5A maximum at 18 volts for 63 watts. Some of the excess power from the panel can be fed into a USB battery bank, charged directly from the panel while also charging a 500. This will allow you to harvest as much as 63 + 15 = 78 watts.If this panel is used to charge a larger device, such as the power station, then its full output potential can be realized.
Thanks for the teardown - only shows, the world we live in, how we get cheated on almost everything we buy these days!!!! I have had bad experiences on battery purchases.
Very good info. thank you. I am looking to see which battery i should buy and your videos definitely help figure out which ones are the best
Thanks David! I have links in the description of all the videos to the ones that I like.
Cool vid. I have to admit, I find, newfound, great interest in learning and understanding electricity, circuits, etc., very interesting. Now with the addition of understanding battery technology and via you, testing, etc., is amazing. Thanks for what you do. I have, and continue to learn a ton here. Well done!
Thanks man! That's exactly why I am doing this!
@@iceholepower8012awesome brother. Quick question regarding 3d printing. Can you 3d print rocker switches? I know there are internal components and all that. Just curious, as I have some ideas for switches, and looking for a way to print a prototype to test. Thx.
A guy probably could. If you google rocker switch STL, you will probably find a bunch of files
Excellent review and demo! You should market your videos to the Ham Radio community. We are allways interested in these types of reviews!!
Agreed. Would like to see a teardown of the 6Ah and 9Ah Bioenno batteries.
Thank you for doing this video. Kinda expected those results.
Me too!
Again, thanks for the time spent doing this video.
My pleasure!
Thanks, Bud. Have to watch your next video to conclude on this battery, but it was interesting.
I've got the Eco Worthy 20Ah, been good as new for three years now regular use.
I tested mine for BMS.. all past with flying colors. Could be that one 10ah battery you have.
I have 20 30 100 150 Eco Worthy. They’ve been excellent.
20 and 100 over a year. No failures.
Thanks Jeramy. I almost bought one for my emergency power box. Glad I didn’t. Keep up the breakdowns.
Glad to help
Thanks for reviewing batteries in this capacity range! There's a lot of duds to avoid.
Yeah, I think the bigger batteries get more QA attention. Thanks for watching!
Cool work👍
This is a great channel
2 years ago this battery was 50$ . I just bought the same thing off ebay for 32$. What a great price drop. I love how technology always gets cheaper.
ya but every thing the compony sells is junk garbage that's also all made by others in China then they slap their eco NOT worthy of any thing labels on them. so you are still getting ripped off
wait, you need to hold the cable to know if it does short circuit right? the spark is normal, it has a reaction time, it just power it on again as soon as the load goes off, i got some bms that do exactly that, but if i hold the cable, the short stop
Does the BMS allow loads to continue when an overcharge protection causes shutdown ?
Can you show one where the bms protected the direct short across terminals?
Could you do the Eco-worthy 8AH? It seems to be very different from the 10Ah version.
Any recommendations of LiFePo4 battery brands that are available in Europe? None of the Rebel, Nocqua, Dakota Lithium, MarCum, Vexilar or Amped Outdoors are being sold here. At Amazon (nl, de) I see many Kepworth and Eco-Worthy batteries but these are getting quite a terrible reviews. I also found some PowerTech PowerBrick+ batteries here but they are very expensive and I can't find any reviews.
Ecoworthy was the one of the first lifepo4 batteries i bought.
I got a 200w solar kit with controller and it was a great project.
The kit came with 2x20ah batteries, which are still working :)
But i did change them out for a 100ah cell, from ecoworthy.
I can understand they may not be the best cells
or a good bms (it works for my use cases, as a portable battery bank that powers my patio pond)
For the price, i don't think you can find better deals, also some come with a warranty :D
Ecoworthy is kinda new to the market i think, they're still having some growing pains but i've been rather pleased with their products so far.
7/10 acceptable product
not the best but acceptable.
Also what battery would be the best for long term usage, the echo or dakota
Do these Lifepo4 batteries work in things like RideOn toys (powerwheels, Razor Quad) etc. I bought a few to replace the SLA batteries I have, but they don't seem to have the strength to power power them. Didn't know if it's something Lifepo4 isn't made for do to a limitation on discharge rate or something, or if I just bought crappy ones
Goldhog mini sluice suggested that battery for that setup
Can one take the 12v 10ah battery and connect it to a 12v battery on a rider to run a pull behind tiller with a dc lift actuator
Hey mate I'm considering buying one of these batterys for a razor mx125 kids dirt bike, how do you think these would perform? Stock they have a 12v 7ah lead acid battery, 100watt motor and a 15a controller.
Love your reviews!! Hey where do I get a the battery charger you use? I looked on your website didn’t see it!?!?!
Thanks for watching!
ampedoutdoors.com/collections/lifepo4-battery/products/lifepo4-lithium-battery-4-charger
I have a 30ah eco worthy battery, it has been okay i use it to powerbox. I use a 300w inverter in it, the most i pull is about 250w and ive had no issue with it. The short circuit protection does work - i shorted mine accidently and it just turned the output off for a few seconds. I dont have a proper way of measuring its capacity but when i charge from solar itrs always takes over 300w of power into it, my charger is not accurate though it goes up i increments in weird intervals so its more than its saying. For one of the cheapest lifepo4 batteries im happy with it.
That's good to know. I plan on looking at that battery in the future. Thanks for your insight!
Lifepo4 needs to use a different way to measure state of charge and capacity. There are ones that use wh by measuring amperes used and it compares it to what it has when fully charged
Can 12v 10ah lifepo4 battery's be put into series for 36v ?
How is it that I only found your video after I bought it??
I was so hasn't to buy it...
Thanks 👍👍. I just got this company battery but a 25.6v battery🔋100Ah. Hopefully I can get my money worth out of it 😂 Thanks again for these videos they're awesome 😎!
I got my 20AH delivered today. The sheet in the box says that current protection kicks in at 2 x the max discharge current. I'm not knowledge enough to know if that's bad, but at least it seems intentional.
Sounds about right, It's the level a fuse would pop (instantly at double the rated current, in a few seconds at 180%, about an hour at 125%)
I want to buy the dakota 60amph cranking battery. I'm curious if it can really start my motor and run livescope all day like they claim
If the channel grows enough to justify the cost, I will be looking at them.
Could you do a tear down of the Pionergy 100ah battery? Seems like a good battery at a great price! Thank you!
If the channel grows enough to justify the cost, I will get into the bigger batteries.
Thanks for the video. I have a 3-wheel electric push golf cart from Sun Mountain. They no longer sell or support the carts. The cart takes (2) 12v/10ah batteries that are wired in series. I have been using Might Max SLA batteries for a number of years. In the past, they have lasted a few years before they needed to be replaced. I put in new batteries ~3 months ago, which are now failing to work after 2-1/2 hours of use. Originally I could get 2 rounds of golf without a charge (8 hours). They are actually the second set of new batteries that I have put in with the same results. No one seems sure why this is happening ( Sun Mountain, Battery Retail stores, hardware stores, etc). I live in a small town in Iowa, so the likelihood of finding someone that can properly diagnose the problem with the cart is slim.
Perhaps as the cart has aged and for some reason, it is getting harder on batteries. As a possible solution, several people have recommended going from SLA to lithium. There is a big jump (4x) in price, but perhaps the extended life of the lithium battery might make it more financially feasible than buying 2-SLA batteries ($25 each) every 3 months. Would really be interested in your thoughts - if you think that the switch to lithium is a worthwhile option - and if so, which battery would you recommend. Thanks so much.
Great question! I think you will see a world of difference between using a lithium battery vs a lead acid. Lithiums are going to be A LOT more energy dense. And you are able to run them down 100% of their rated capacity without damaging their ability to retain a charge. That is the reason you are going though lead acid batteries so fast, once you discharge them past 50%, you damage their ability to retain a charge. These lithium batteries should last you 10 years. When picking out a lithium battery in that 10Ah range, one thing you need to keep in mind is that not all of them can be wired in series for a 24v system. Here is a link to a fairly cheap 10Ah lithium that CAN be wired in series. amzn.to/3PK1KKV
Make sure you get a LiFeP04 charger too. If you wire them in series, might be worth getting two so you can charge each battery at the same time. This is the one I use, I like the bigger alligator clips. amzn.to/3zrfpS6
Thanks so much - very helpful! Do I need to be concerned with overcharging lithium batteries - for example, if I leave them on the charger overnight?
@@iceholepower8012 The batteries and charger you recommended are working out great. I have noticed the charger gets quite warm after charging. Is that common?
@@stevenolmstead they always get warm. Nothing out of the ordinary.
@@iceholepower8012 Thanks!
Did you check on the 100ah, if so did it have a shitty bms board like the 10 ah?.
Are we better off removing thentop with a heat gun??
How many cells is in this 10ah? Thanks in advance!
Is this good for car audio
If your gonna short circuit test a Battery, clip the alligator clip and leave it on there with your amp meter on it as you had. All you did was a instant arching of the terminals.
I'd like to see you test and tear down an ECO-WORTHY 48V 50Ah Metal Case LiFePO4 Battery 😁
I like to see what size battery will fit in a 50 cal box sideways and 50 cal saw box.
What battery did you have in mind?
I've got 2 of these, and been regularly charging and discharging on a weekly basis.
Over a year down the line, they both hold and supply the 10Ah. Happy with them so far, be interesting to see how long they last.
Keep us updated!
@Danang Alta Hi there, I use them on a water trolley, for window cleaning. So they basically power a water pump. I generally run them right down before being charged. Seem to hold the stated Ah
Can I use a car battery charger?
Just bought the lithium batteries you suggested. Received them today. Do I need/is it best to charge them right out of the box - or do they come pre-charged? Thanks!
You should put a charge on them. They usually come 30% charged. Thanks for watching!!
@@iceholepower8012 Thanks!
Hey can I charge my Dakota lithium 12v 10ah with that charger you use? Thanks ahead of time!!
Yes you can!
Thank you for your help and tech help. Are these batteries available in Australia. Richard Weir in Australia
Oh man, I'm not sure. I got it from Amazon.
I bought 3 of these exact batteries off ebay in Oz....working fine so far. Also used a 30ah on daughters gate. It sits in the weather ..and there has been a lot this year.. never gets to freezing though. All working well 1 year in. Ghey all charge off cheap pwm solar controllers. Just found some nicer Renogy ones with a Li setting. Might change those.
@@itallturns thank you for your feedback Owen
Just to add something here, the larger 24ah eco worthy has a max charge of 20a. Maybe its a misprint or wrong bms in there? Just a thought. I just ordered the 24ah, Ill let you guys know how it goes!
Please do! Hopefully it is better quality!
@@iceholepower8012 I bought 2 of the 20AH versions over a year ago. They have worked well enough that I now have ten of them in a string ( 2S5P ) for an inverter. I opened one of them up ( 4 screws and the top comes off and has a gasket ) to see what the BMS looked like. Even though the battery is a 20AH, it is rated for a maximum 30Amp discharge and actually has a 25Amp BMS. Charge rate is to be limited to 20 Amp per their paperwork. I have 20 Amp fuses between batteries and they all balance out to within .02Volts. As for their protections, read what they say. "[100% Protection] Built-in BMS protects the cell from getting damage like: overcharge, over-discharge, short-circuit. And keep balance between battery cells " Key legal word there is " like " You may not be able to damage them thru those actions but it doesn't mean that there shouldn't be fuses/circuit breakers somewhere involved.
I have eco worthy controller all bin working fine but for some reason it discharges quickly battery seems ok any thought s thanks
what fish finder are you running?
@@iceholepower8012 what you mean
Noticed that when you increase the charging current, the voltage reading dropped. How can your fancy charger do that? Doesn’t it make sense?
Are those noco chargers any good for charging these. Seem to be jack of all trade chargers so I was suspicious. I was looking at their 1a charger.
I have one of the genius 5a smart chargers and it gets hot when charging. Like too hot. Had it for a few years and use it a couple times a month. Still working but I would never leave it unattended.
I had ordery 2bof that brand at amazon 12V 50AH infortunatly they was to long 4 my Afiscootter C3 They refunt it to me but had to send them back at my cost I"m happy it turn that way after all lol
For that model
I nearly purchased 2 X 30ah Eco Worthy batteries for my mobility scooter, but after reading all the reviews here in the UK I decided not to buy. Still using lead acid as there seems to be some bad lifep04 batteries being sold in the UK.
I’m afraid to say but his test is not accurate. Max discharge is rated at 20A… nothing is going to happen at 16.
For his short circuit protection… all he did was arch the terminals. Not how you test a battery.
If I am not mistaken, you charged a frozen lithium battery, thereby voiding the warranty and likely doing damage. You also use claims on Amazon about what the battery should and should not do, rather than going directly to the manufacturers website. I could not find where Eco-worthy made a claim that there is short circuit protection, or low or high temperature protection for this battery. If I missed it, please point me to the manufacturer claims. This seems to be a common problem on Amazon - sellers making claims that the manufacturer does not make.
Someone else pointed me to the correct claim from the manufacturer. It should disconnect on a dead short after 2/10 of a second. And for the 10 AH battery it should disconnect if it reaches 2 times its rating for more than 2/10 of a second. That would be 20 amps or more. So that quick sparky test you did is not really valid. You would have to use a heavy gauge wire to do the short and leave it there for a solid 1/2 second.
Can you do a tear down of a "Bioenno" battery next? They seem legit
I do have them on my list. Thanks for the suggestion Andres!
I have a 4.5ah and 12ah 12v and a 3.0ah 9v bioennos used for ham radio from mountain tops (over 200x) now in 100f to 10f they all have worked perfectly.
This battery is cheap does the job very well for me on the ice.
horrable compony to deal with tho. they have lots of bad reviews on their ebay store and I ordered 3 different products from them and so far 2 out of 3 orders that they actually shipped 1 of the orders which was sent in a 2 part shipment they some how shipped one of the 2 boxes to the wrong address and then left me hanging.. and the other not only did they not send me the panel and charge controller that i bought as a kit. they ended up sending me 2 of these 10ah batteries that i did not order and inside the box was a return slip from another ebay buyer that was sending them back because they were defective or damaged. and my 3rd item which was a solar combiner and junction box that is still in shipping and not arrived yet cant be the right item either being the shipping weight is 11lbs and no way its that heavy and the box is to small for it to be my solar panel i was supposed to get. But while i have there defective batteries here that they sent me a blank white return shipping label for (scammers) these are NOT really 10ah batteries or even close to it. they also don't weigh anything close to any other maker's good 10ah lithium batteries.
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I can't afford to pay 100s of dollars for batteries ! That's all I can afford
I have purchased a few Eco-Worthy products, and every single one of them didn't match the published specs. Their support will not answer any specific questions about anything, right or wrong. Not magic here, you get what you pay for.
these some of the cheapest I have seen 100ah for $200
I got one with the solar panels total rubbish and garbage
Not-worthy!
Nope!
@@iceholepower8012, Amped still your best pic?
They are one of them, Batteries that I recommend based on my reviews:
Dakota Lithium 10ah Amazon Link: amzn.to/3DsIImA
Dakota Lithium 10Ah Teardown Video: ua-cam.com/video/C4S4Z7K57WU/v-deo.html
MarCum 10Ah BRUTE Amazon Link: amzn.to/3CxxxYN
MarCum 10Ah BRUTE Teardown Video: ua-cam.com/video/w5e4GbYOLHM/v-deo.html
Vexilar 9Ah Amazon Link: amzn.to/3GTc9PK
Vexilar 9Ah Teardown Video: ua-cam.com/video/j9U5Qj6Nggg/v-deo.html
Amped Outdoors 12ah Link: www.iceholepower.com/product-page/lifepo4-battery-12v-12ah
Amped Outdoors 12ah Teardown video: ua-cam.com/video/qQ3YtEO5MfY/v-deo.html
@@iceholepower8012, cool looking in the 12 or 15 ah range. Thx.
Can't say that based on this video.
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That's if you get the full 10ah capacity. Its probably lighter because it's not 10ah
Yeah you damaged the battery when you used at 20 degrees f lol. A reality bms has a low temp disconnect... so battery isn't damaged