The Lithium-Ion Fish Finder Battery Lie.

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  • With the lithium battery boom, some battery sales people will take advantage of the confusion surrounding lithium batteries. A little battery knowledge can go a long way and save you money!
    In this video I discuss the low voltage issue with Lithium Ion batteries and our modern digital fish finders.
    Batteries featured in this video are:
    Lightning Lithium 16Ah
    Norsk 15Ah Lithium-Ion
    Nocqua 10Ah
    MarCum Mite 7.5Ah
    MarCum Force 12Ah (Scheel's Exclusive Battery)
    MarCum Brute 10Ah (LifeP04)
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  • @dconant63
    @dconant63 Рік тому

    I knew nothing about batteries ,Thank goodness I watched your videos before I made my purchase :) If guys can find your web cite you would sure save a lot of people a lot of head aches.Even thought I have purchased a Amper battery thanks to your videos I still continue to watch your videos and spread the word about your videos to as many people as I can .Thank you for the great information you provide !

  • @larrywiley1804
    @larrywiley1804 2 роки тому +5

    Batteries are complicated for most people and its great your doing the work to figure this crap out. Thank you sir

  • @nellieupnorth4960
    @nellieupnorth4960 2 роки тому +1

    Great video!!!! Extremely informative. My Marcum MX7 came with their BRUTE battery. I have been quite pleased with it's performance.
    I am also looking for a battery to run a small Humminbird on my kayak...
    Thank you for your efforts!

  • @kiltedscotty
    @kiltedscotty 2 роки тому

    I learn something every time i watch your videos. Thank you!

  • @A-aronTrekn
    @A-aronTrekn 2 роки тому +1

    Great video Jeremy! Good to see you back but decompression is also important for you and the family! Look forward to the next video.

  • @CARLBP
    @CARLBP 2 роки тому +2

    I returned all of the Mite/Force for the Marcum Brute’s. Very happy and get maximum power out of my purchase! Thank you for these videos

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      Good call! Glad I could help!

    • @RobDingnagian
      @RobDingnagian 2 роки тому

      I almost bought the Force last week on sale. I opted for the Brute, at "reduced" ah because it was $20 cheaper. I'm glad that I did. Scheels has the Brute on sale for $59 now. $79 for the Force. (In store prices) Online, they're $10 higher.

  • @Hundert1
    @Hundert1 2 роки тому

    Thanks so much for caring and sharing. I've seen this with cordless electric snowblower company and cars too!! Keep up the good work. God Bless 🌲🕯️☃️

  • @Kat-nl5gh
    @Kat-nl5gh 2 роки тому +1

    I have seriously never known a thing about batteries until now. Intriguing and interesting 🙌 thanks for sharing your knowledge!

  • @anotheryogateacher8499
    @anotheryogateacher8499 Місяць тому

    honestly, this is one of the best videos on youtube. thanks dude.

  • @bronzeback29
    @bronzeback29 2 роки тому

    I have a BPS Tracker lithium 12v 12ah that is a lithium iron phosphate and its been excellent so far, I also have a Marcum Brute that has been excellent also. I'm running a Helix 7, thanks for the video and I'm glad I have two of the iron phosphate batteries.

  • @KayakMike
    @KayakMike 2 роки тому +4

    Dude - you are very very good at these types of videos. I remember a while back when I was purchasing my first Lithium 100AH you were a major influencer in my decision. Thank you for these types of videos showing data, and not your opinion.
    Edit and you're 100% correct, I have 2 of the Nocqua because of that reason - I'm a kayak guy. But If I forget to turn my settings down on my H7, I will kill it in 4-6 hours. But I learned to turn a lot of settings off like sound, warnings, dim the screen, etc and I can get them to last 10+ hours each doing that. However - to your point, you shouldn't have to dumb down the Unit to get the advertised battery life.
    Final Edit - I run a Kayak Catfishing Tournament scene - I'm going to share this to those pages too. Very well done.

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому +1

      Glad you were able to get something out of the videos! Thanks for the share!

  • @dustinmiller3537
    @dustinmiller3537 Рік тому

    Very informative! I bought the Marcum 12ah. Only run it in my backup vex so haven't ran it ragged. Think I'm past even scheels returns though.

  • @keithgolden9760
    @keithgolden9760 2 роки тому +1

    Knowledge is power!! Thank you for the education man.

  • @Z33Garage
    @Z33Garage 2 роки тому +3

    I was about to buy that nocqua 10ah. I was seeing all the good reviews. Thanks to the actual testing on your videos I see that so many of these reviews are just shills pushing sponsored products with zero shits given to actual reviews. Thanks for your work.

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      Thank you! I will have a video on just that battery soon

    • @mountainmatthew
      @mountainmatthew 2 роки тому

      It’s a great battery. I use it and not disappointed. I also keep track of my battery charge and make sure they are charged before i use them.

  • @robertbartalits85
    @robertbartalits85 2 роки тому

    Thanks great info. I am getting ready to build a fish finder power source and this really helped.

  • @huckfin1100
    @huckfin1100 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks you saved me from making a bad purchase and I definitely will share the video !

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      This is exactly the reason that I make these videos. So you guys can make an informed decision on what battery to buy. Thanks for watching!!

  • @Scott___T
    @Scott___T 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you! Was going to research Li batteries for my Striker. No need to now

  • @mikelukjanowicz5106
    @mikelukjanowicz5106 2 роки тому +1

    I learned a lot from this video and I shared it with some friends. Thanks for the great info!

  • @tjyoursprinklerguy8846
    @tjyoursprinklerguy8846 Рік тому

    Another awesome video Jeremy. I am going on a fishing trip this summer deep into Canada and we are going to bring up Stricker 4 fish finders. Since we do not have power to charge our battery nightly, what battery would you recommend we buy?

  • @AK-ms5zk
    @AK-ms5zk 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome vid very informative exactly the info I needed 👍🏼

  • @josh_c603
    @josh_c603 2 роки тому +1

    People are too focused on the amps not the style of battery. Maybe your video will get them to change their minds. Nice work Jeremy.

  • @zachbuss5468
    @zachbuss5468 2 роки тому +1

    Love your videos. Hopefully once ur channel grows you could do some lithium trolling motors batteries.

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      If the channel gets big enough to be able to justify the cost of the larger batteries, I will tear down as many as I can!

  • @rpb1961
    @rpb1961 2 роки тому +1

    I'm on my 4th year with the Noqua 10 Amp. Using a Lowrance hook 7 trippleshot. I haven't noticed any problems. Lasts day and a half.

  • @lotus0237
    @lotus0237 2 роки тому +1

    I like what you are doing in this video I went with BRUTE LITHIUM 12V BATTERY & 3AMP CHARGER KIT after seeing this

  • @Mrv1960
    @Mrv1960 2 роки тому +3

    Marcum Brute are amazing. I own 2 of them already for several months. Going to buy 2 more.

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому +1

      I really like the Brutes, the video I them turned out great

  • @RyanRed13
    @RyanRed13 2 роки тому +1

    Great video and thanks for the info!!

  • @Kansas_Murph
    @Kansas_Murph Рік тому

    I watch some of your videos and ended up buying the Macum brute. I almost fell for the “force” scam. That’s for the information.

  • @joeys7519
    @joeys7519 2 роки тому +1

    I think I love you, my noqua always derps out my livescope way too soon! This explains it

  • @ZZ430T56
    @ZZ430T56 2 роки тому

    So what cells are in the Milwaukee drill batteries many are using?

  • @kellysanders3875
    @kellysanders3875 Рік тому

    I have not made the switch from my lead acid batteries yet but would like to. In your opinion what is the best go to battery for any fish finder? Thank you for the video I almost made a mistake and bought one of the ones you tested.

  • @shaun3645
    @shaun3645 2 роки тому +1

    Much appreciated information!

  • @tommybarksdale5783
    @tommybarksdale5783 2 роки тому

    What battery do you recommend for a boat for multiple units?

  • @unforgettablefire535
    @unforgettablefire535 2 роки тому +2

    Love my Amped Outdoors 18 amp hour for my kayak.

  • @timothypmayhak4541
    @timothypmayhak4541 Рік тому

    Which is the best Battery, SLA/agm or Lithium Ion?

  • @Big_Friendly
    @Big_Friendly Рік тому

    So I recently looked at the Humminbird manual and it "updated" the voltage range to say 10V - 20V. I wonder if this is a response to these lithium ion batteries and their discharge curve?

  • @codypurgiel8844
    @codypurgiel8844 8 місяців тому

    So how does the lead acid battery compare on this graph?

  • @paulboone714
    @paulboone714 Рік тому

    So could you run 2 of these in a series for them to last longer? Or do you suggest a LiFoP battery instead?

  • @schoover
    @schoover 2 роки тому +6

    Nice video Jeremy, any difference in the way cold temps affect the different types of batteries?

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому +4

      Great question! Yes and I have plans for cold temp test videos!

    • @breminnie
      @breminnie 2 роки тому

      Scott where you been brother!! haven't seen you on youtube or at the launch!! Hope all is well!!!

  • @chevynation6476
    @chevynation6476 2 роки тому

    I have the garmin 93sv and running it on the 20ah Nocqua battery. It say it only requires 9v. So how many amp hours am I actually getting?

  • @koolaidkoresh
    @koolaidkoresh 2 роки тому +1

    I have the brute thanks to your teardown series running panoptix ps 22 all day

  • @claudiaweber7011
    @claudiaweber7011 2 роки тому +1

    Good video, but would have been great if you told us kayakers what you suggest we use in place of these.

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      The batteries that I recommend that I have tore down are in the video description of all the battery videos. Thanks for watching!

  • @davidheath8073
    @davidheath8073 2 роки тому

    So I watched your video a couple times and to me yeah lightning lithium says they have a 16ah battery but when you stop the voltage at 11v it seems like it matches up pretty good with the Marcum brute. So you can still get about the same amount of runtime off of that battery at that voltage as you can with the Marcum brute. And price difference is what? Also there is quite a bit of battery life left where you can still use it for powering usb's and other devices. So it seems to me like that's ok? I mean I have a 28ah battery from lightning lithium so it would be cool to see how that stacks up against the other lifepo4 batteries

  • @jasseagraves
    @jasseagraves Рік тому

    Just picked up the marcum force for 35$ at scheels Ice Fest. What do you think? Worth that? Gotta be better than the SLA I have in my Lx5 right? Bought it an then came lookin for your review on it. Was hoping for a better review.

  • @MGMarineTech
    @MGMarineTech 2 роки тому +2

    Love these videos!!!
    Can you do a test with "power tool batteries" such as the milwaukee 18v ??

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому +1

      I will dive into the power tool batteries at some point

    • @Utah_Mike
      @Utah_Mike 2 роки тому

      @@iceholepower8012 thx this is what I’m using (Dewalt 20/flex). Running Garmin, lighting, drill auger. Very happy with set up.

  • @Rockers1121
    @Rockers1121 Рік тому

    So I just got a hds live 7 ... I got a sla 12v 12ah duracel battery .... .. I decided not to use it, I returned it. So I just ordered a 18ah dakota lithium battery .. it was 179 bucks .. plus another 28 bucks for the charger .. so 208 total ... should I have gotten something else ? I'm not running live target.

  • @stoneblue1795
    @stoneblue1795 2 роки тому +1

    Welcome back, brother!
    How was fishing?
    Got pics?

  • @aaronfreeman3567
    @aaronfreeman3567 2 роки тому +2

    would love to see you jump into the big batteries like the 24v and 36v lithium trolling motor and cranking batteries. test them bad boys

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      Me too! If the channel grows enough to justify buying those bigger batteries, then I will be all over it!

    • @stevepederson1736
      @stevepederson1736 2 роки тому

      @@iceholepower8012
      If you look into 24/36v battery systems, I would find your thoughts interesting, on the carbon foam lead acid’s (Firefly Oasis or equal). As I understand? Lots more cycles than L.A.but less than LiFePo4. Almost same weight of L.A., but half the cost of LiFePo4. Supposedly the carbon foam resist sulfation and corrosion, giving it many advantages.
      My problem is finding a charger to meet their specs, Big smart chargers are spendy !
      Any way, be interesting to hear your thoughts.
      Thanks, Steve

  • @db9818
    @db9818 2 роки тому +2

    Yep, replaced the Nocqua because it wouldn’t run my Helix 7 all day. Switched to Amped 18Ah and get three days and probably more.

  • @markkoranjr6426
    @markkoranjr6426 2 роки тому +1

    Glad I bought the brute for my LX7!

  • @bluedoggum8373
    @bluedoggum8373 Рік тому +1

    I went to garmin’s site and their operating voltage seems to be 12v. Did I read that right? Wouldn’t that mean these batteries would cut off way way sooner.

  • @douglasdeboerjr9867
    @douglasdeboerjr9867 2 роки тому +1

    Great insight thank you

  • @benellifelli
    @benellifelli 2 роки тому

    Wish I would have seen this sooner!

  • @patrickethier6190
    @patrickethier6190 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the info appreciate it.... I bought a Scheels Marcum Force 12 amp.. returned it it was terrible.. but I have a Marcum brute 10 amp ion phosphorus and that battery I paid $55 for and it does a good job... Mega live sells their ice bundle from hummingbird for almost $3,000 in the battery they give you with that one is a norski 20 amp ion... Probably aren't getting 20 amps... A lot of money for the unit and then you don't get a good battery!!

    • @klg1001
      @klg1001 2 роки тому

      You mean Amp-Hours. It gets very confusing when people confuse that with amps.

  • @thedude9295
    @thedude9295 2 роки тому +1

    This is what I was afraid of with the Marcum shuttle. I've been using it with an LX7 since it hit the market but I've always noticed the volts drop steadily throughout the day and after 8 hours in below 11. It will top out fully charged at 12.4. Sometimes 12.5.
    Will you ever void the warranty on one? I'm curious as to what you come up with but I suspect it would be similar to this video.

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому +2

      I have a brand new one that will get tore down soon

  • @antoniodaluz2386
    @antoniodaluz2386 2 роки тому

    Thanks Jeremy keep up bro !!

  • @MonkeyOnMyBackOutdoors
    @MonkeyOnMyBackOutdoors 2 роки тому +2

    You have the curve for the Amped 32ah 14.8v NMC? It’s what I use for my Livescope.

  • @stevemartin4249
    @stevemartin4249 9 місяців тому

    In Japan, followed. Space is at a premium here, and despite the failing economy (or maybe because), there is a DIY mini-boat boom here. I have a couple of inflatables (Joy Craft, and Sea Eagle) that I want to equip with a depth finder capable of more than 300 ft. The seas around Japan get deep just a few hundred meters from the shore. For deep water, if I have the money, will go for a Furuno, next choice being Garmin ... either being with a 500-600 watt transducer. Your information recommending iron-phosphate lithium ion is valuable for whatever brand I buy.

  • @tpalshadow
    @tpalshadow 2 роки тому +1

    I have a Marcum MX7 GPS. Like the LX7 you mentioned it says if it drops below 11 volts performance will decrease. The flasher has a setting where you can set the powerdown voltage. Out of the box it is 9 volts. Do you think setting that to 10.5 or 11 makes more sense, or just keep in mind that you might not have the best results below 11 on the gauge.

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому +1

      I would just keep an eye on the voltage. If you are using a LiFeP04 battery in it like the Brute, then you don't need to worry about it because the Brute will shut down at 11v

    • @tpalshadow
      @tpalshadow 2 роки тому +1

      @@iceholepower8012 Good deal, thanks. It did come with the Brute and I watched your video on that battery which was pretty favorable so I feel pretty good about it.

  • @3RiversFishingAdventures
    @3RiversFishingAdventures 2 роки тому +1

    Great information, thanks!

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      Thank you for watching!!

    • @3RiversFishingAdventures
      @3RiversFishingAdventures 2 роки тому +1

      @@iceholepower8012 I noticed Garmin spec is 9-20V, but I wonder how the performance is affected when you get below 11

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      Do you have a link? I see 10V for the black box

  • @CARLBP
    @CARLBP 2 роки тому

    Also what do you think of the 24v or 36v in one batteries? Like the monster marine 24volt.

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      If the channel grows enough to justify the cost, I will look at the bigger batteries

  • @onlinecatfishingtournament4990
    @onlinecatfishingtournament4990 2 роки тому +1

    Sharing to our competitors on Facebook.

  • @Gonz37
    @Gonz37 2 роки тому +1

    Jeremy, I have the Garmin UHD 93sv, it draws 1.5amps. The livescope GLS 10 that is used with it draws .75amp. I have a pair of the Marcum brute Li iron batteries. Would you run units together off one battery at a time and switch to 2nd when voltage gets below 10.8(min for 93sv) or put them in parallel to extend aH? If I put them in series, the chart says the range on the 93 goes up to 20 volt. Thank you!

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      I would put them in parallel for 12v 20Ah. If you put them in series then you would have a 24v 10Ah battery pack. Great question!

    • @Gonz37
      @Gonz37 2 роки тому

      @@iceholepower8012 Thank you!

    • @noelvallance7526
      @noelvallance7526 2 роки тому

      @@iceholepower8012 I'd like to take this question a little further. If the sonar has a listed input range of 13v-20v. 1) What is the idea voltage for optimal performance? For discussion let's call it 14.7vdc. What are everyone's thoughts on running a voltage regulator between the power source and the device to fine tune the voltage to precisely 14.7vdc.

  • @esoxinator968
    @esoxinator968 2 роки тому

    Looking at a dock for 18v milwaukee converts to 12v wat you think should last or no

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      I have not done much with them. From what I can tell, most buck converters limit out at 1 to 2 amps.

  • @Doc56Holiday
    @Doc56Holiday 2 роки тому +1

    Could you do a review on the Marcum King 18ah battery

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому +1

      I do have it on my list. Have a few to do before I get there. Thanks for watching!!

  • @jmarchi15
    @jmarchi15 2 роки тому +1

    Have a lightning lithium on an older lx5 but not enough hours to provide valid feedback.

  • @BrandonJohnson-rm9ee
    @BrandonJohnson-rm9ee 2 роки тому +2

    How about the Amped 19Ah 14.8 NMC? I'm considering getting one to pack into BWCA over my current 12Ah lithium iron

  • @bolck454
    @bolck454 2 роки тому +2

    I am looking to upgrade to a 24 v trolling motor and need to lighten the load for 2 batteries. Any brand recommendations?

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому +1

      Amped or Dakota seems to be pretty popular but I have not tore down batteries that big yet

    • @dennysmith5235
      @dennysmith5235 2 роки тому +2

      I have a pair of 100ah amped.. outdoor..
      Very pleased with its performance
      My ultera runs great with it

  • @dennysmith5235
    @dennysmith5235 2 роки тому +1

    Curious how Amped Outdoor batteries stack up

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому +1

      @Denny Smith They have a higher voltage range. Here is a video that I did on them. ua-cam.com/video/qQ3YtEO5MfY/v-deo.html

  • @Mrv1960
    @Mrv1960 2 роки тому +2

    Jeremy why wasn’t Amped and Dakota Lithium in the review?

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      Great question! This video was about 11.1v Lithium-Ion batteries. I did throw the Brute (LiFeP04) in there just for a reference. Dakota has LiFeP04 (12.8v nominal) batteries and Amped has LiFeP04 and NMC batteries (12.8v Nominal and 14.8v nominal respectfully) The voltage range of those batteries are well within the operating range of the fish finders.

  • @Big_Friendly
    @Big_Friendly 2 роки тому +1

    The Marcum Brute, that comes in the Lithium Shuttle, right?

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому +1

      Great Question! No, it comes with a Lithium Polymer battery. I have one and will be making a video on it.

  • @Charactermatters650
    @Charactermatters650 2 роки тому +1

    How about a test on the Zooms 12.8V 10 Amp hour batt.? I just bought one and they have a coupon right now for 10% off - I have no connection to them - just seemed like a good buy (I watched a tear down of their 100 amp hour batt. by a dude who tests them like you, but for folks doing solar storage etc).
    It is Lithium Iron Phosphate and a IP 65 water res. rating - I need it for a Helix 5 (latest model with Di + Nav charts and I use for kayak and ice as well). I got it with coupon for $53 bucks delivered with tax included. Seemed like a good buy and the quality seemed decent on the 100 amp hour tear down. How bout it?
    I like the straight talk with no BS - good stuff with your vids!

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      Hey Jim, I will add it to the list. Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @vermhot
    @vermhot 5 місяців тому

    I had bought a RoyPow lithium, iron phosphate, battery off of Amazon for like 17 bucks to give it a try and it works ok , but when the power goes down it shuts on and off ! It’s a 12.7v 6Ah yea it’s small but it’s only running a flasher

  • @leolealuianderson5291
    @leolealuianderson5291 Рік тому

    I don't understaand why usb battery packs can't be used instead of these emotorcycle batteries ??

  • @leenagorski6038
    @leenagorski6038 2 роки тому +2

    I recently ran into your channel and it has been very informative. I’d like to buy a box from you but I noticed your site is closed!

  • @jerryrussell1661
    @jerryrussell1661 2 роки тому

    A 12-volt battery you can run them down that far I have a lithium battery 100 amp-hour and I've been fishing with for two weeks I could never ever do that with a regular battery guess it's true what they say about the voltage you need to run it but how long it takes to get there makes the difference

  • @redreggie9494
    @redreggie9494 2 роки тому +1

    What about the vexilar lithium ion batteries, are they the same

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      Great question, no they are LiFeP04
      ua-cam.com/video/j9U5Qj6Nggg/v-deo.html

  • @bryanmatthews2077
    @bryanmatthews2077 2 роки тому +1

    Have you tested these, I am thinking about them but the temperature of 122 deg or lower makes think twice is that normal max temp? 12V 100Ah Lithium Iron Phosphate Battery w/ Bluetooth. 500.00 on sale 700 reg price. I am looking for a battery that can run a fish finder and a trolling motor most of the day. Am I barking up the wrong tree with these batteries? Hope not the price looks good.

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      Hi Bryan, thanks for watching! Which battery are you looking at for your trolling motor and which fish finder are you running? Kayak or boat?

  • @adampayne6388
    @adampayne6388 2 роки тому +1

    do you have a review on the fleet farm battery? UPG 12v 12Ah Lithium LFP Battery it retails at 99.99 lithium iron phosphate is what it says on the battery

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      I will have to grab one next time I am in Fleet Farm country

  • @mattpavao1559
    @mattpavao1559 Рік тому

    Lifepo....only way to go. Safer than lithium ion and more usable voltage. I have had my Brute for 2 years now and love it.

  • @icefisher1171
    @icefisher1171 2 роки тому +1

    Have you tested Dakota Lithium? How do they stack up?

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      I have done 3 DL batteries, one was great the other two not so good. But they are not the same type of lithium as in this video.
      7Ah ua-cam.com/video/jFMKJZJT5x8/v-deo.html
      10Ah ua-cam.com/video/C4S4Z7K57WU/v-deo.html
      18Ah ua-cam.com/video/d_Ljq-aQW3A/v-deo.html

    • @icefisher1171
      @icefisher1171 2 роки тому

      @@iceholepower8012
      Just saw the 10Ahr video. Those are the batteries I purchased from them. One was bad, from the gate, and I'm now waiting on its replacement.
      Thanks for what you do. Super helpful and informative. I appreciate it.

  • @AustinDeanRoach
    @AustinDeanRoach 2 роки тому +2

    I've commented this on a previous video... I have never had any performance issues with my Norsk and I've fished with the marcum and neither of them shut the unit off at the suggested voltage and I do get relatively close amp hours for what the battery advertises. I understand they are cheaper and won't last as many charge cycles but that number is so high by then I'll be ready to upgrade and that iron phosphate will be probably obsolete they will make them smaller or lighter with more punch. I agree with what your doing the videos are good for calling out the cheap knock offs but to say they all are a waste of money is probably wrong. I fish with 2 helix 9s one with mega live and one without and a helix 7 and I can honestly say they get the job done if you can out fish one of those 20ah or 15ah thats a very long day on the ice and pretty impressive.

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому +10

      Thanks for watching and commenting. I will make a video in the near future showing the difference in performance and target separation between running your fish finder within manufacture voltage range and below it.

    • @mlardinois80
      @mlardinois80 2 роки тому

      Austin, Jeremy is right on the quality of return, but what is missed is the real reason companies put the higher voltage rate on their products, is if you use them below this voltage, you are drawing amperage higher than the internal components are made to withstand. This is causing premature failure on fishing electronics.

    • @joeugro5999
      @joeugro5999 2 роки тому

      @@mlardinois80 you are incorrect about premature failure of the fishing electronics. I have been in contact directly with humminbird and they say it is perfectly safe to run them at a lower voltage. I imagine humminbird has also done their own testing and research before supplying norsk batteries with their ice units. Why would they supply a norsk 11.1v battery if it would potentially cause the unit to fail prematurely. Also why would they supply that battery if you don't get good readings or separation or battery life?. I get you are drawing more amps at a lower voltage but what I was told directly from humminbird is that it is perfectly safe. I get you are trying to sell your company and more batteries to your customers but why knock what other companies are doing. Regarding the voltage displayed on the batteries. Why would Milwaukee tool batteries display 18v when DeWalt says 20v they are the same voltage packs so why say different voltages. There are no rules on what voltage you have to display. Some companies display nominal some display fully charged. Is that wrong when it's like that for everything?

    • @mlardinois80
      @mlardinois80 2 роки тому +1

      @@joeugro5999 I have been working with many head techs from fishing electronics companies. One of their biggest frustrations is not having much say in final decisions. You do know these are made by their execs and many of them are all based on what makes them the most $$$. 11.1v NMC cost at least half of what the similar 12.8V LiFePO4 cost. This means more $$ in the manufacturers, retailers and partners pockets. You would also be surprised how little their tech support teams and staff really know about DC voltage. Both Garmin and Lowrance have made statements and changes around using certain batteries and not covering products under warranty if using them. The voltage range of electronics come from engineers specs for what the products are rated for. In the past this was never an issue because people always used 12.8v LiFePO4 or SLA. With the huge boom in lithium, they are seeing people using higher voltage and lower voltage batteries and starting to see an large increase in support issues with these. Time will tell how turns out but the rating from the manufacturer is there for a reason. In todays market, we are seeing companies cut corners to increase profits due to rising costs and consumer demands with limited resources. Although I do not agree with everything in these videos, Jeremy is spot on this topic. Why would these companies advertise the same battery as 11.1v one year, then 12v the next year and then 12.6v the next? Why would they rate their batteries at 300 charge cycles and then later 800+ without changing anything? It is 100% taking advantage of an educated customer and these videos help educate on the true facts around different battery types available today.

  • @chrisbrakke7915
    @chrisbrakke7915 2 роки тому

    I have a Marcum Brute in a Power Box and the voltage reads 13.6v every time it is fully charged. When I use the Power Box to run my Helix 5 I get around 5 hours of run time before it shuts off and the battery is completely dead(the box won’t turn on).
    It seems that I should get more run time than that out of the Brute. I’m wondering if it is defective.

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      Might be your charger. Are you using the Marcum LiFeP04 charger? Check the voltage of your charger with a meter if you have one. If not, use the voltmeter on your power box by disconnecting your battery in the power box and then hook up the charger to your powerbox. Read the voltage on the box and your charger voltage should be in the neighborhood of 14.4v.

    • @chrisbrakke7915
      @chrisbrakke7915 2 роки тому +1

      @@iceholepower8012 Yes I do have the Marcum charger for LiFePO4. When I hooked it up as you suggested it read 13.6v. Do you think that difference is not allowing the battery to fully charge? I would think I should get a full day or more of run time with that battery and a Helix 5 compared to the run time I got with a similar sized lead acid battery.

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      Sounds like you might have a bad charger. A quick google search says that the helix 5 draws .615 amps so 10Ah/.615A= 16.26 hours of run time. (Assuming that you are not running anything else off of the battery.)

    • @chrisbrakke7915
      @chrisbrakke7915 2 роки тому +1

      @@iceholepower8012 Great info, thanks for the advice! Do you know how many amps the LED lights that come with your Power Box kits draw? Sometimes I have those on as well.

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      @@chrisbrakke7915 about .06 amps each

  • @matmoser5563
    @matmoser5563 2 роки тому +1

    So, any chance you are going to open shop for a bit? Was going to look at ordering some stuff from you

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      I don't have much for stock right now. We should be back at it in March

    • @matmoser5563
      @matmoser5563 2 роки тому

      Any glow cups in stock? Looking for one soon since I started ice fishing again

  • @codypurgiel8844
    @codypurgiel8844 8 місяців тому

    Run that same amp test on a lead acid and see how they compare please

  • @rayjones2381
    @rayjones2381 2 роки тому +1

    Can you find a battery that is true to its compacity?

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      Actually most of the batteries that I have tested have passed the capacity test. Here is a good one. ua-cam.com/video/C4S4Z7K57WU/v-deo.html

  • @adelgc
    @adelgc 5 місяців тому

    To use the fish finder with lithium ion battery you simply choose the 4s Configuration the battery range is 12 to 16.8v , that is suitable for the echo sounder voltage range for majority of them.
    If you have lifepo4 batteries, that's good

  • @alexgoldsmith1431
    @alexgoldsmith1431 2 роки тому

    my 12v 7ah lead acid battery will run my garmin for over 12 hours...do lead batteries not have this voltage issue?

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      What Garmin fish finder are you running?

    • @alexgoldsmith1431
      @alexgoldsmith1431 2 роки тому +1

      @@iceholepower8012 striker 4 and battery is a Duracell

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      @@alexgoldsmith1431 the Striker 4 pulls .23 amps. So your run time makes sense. The SLA batteries do not have that voltage issue. All fish finders were actually designed around SLA battery's voltage range because that was the only option for the longest time.

  • @jeffalger2921
    @jeffalger2921 2 роки тому +1

    Glad I bought the Brute this year when my lead battery died!

  • @vincentcolon7909
    @vincentcolon7909 2 роки тому

    How about talking about good battery chargers ! Thank you

  • @davidheath8073
    @davidheath8073 2 роки тому

    I have a lightning lithium 28ah 12v. So far I am very impressed. I run a helix 7 g3. I went to Lake of the woods fishing for 4 days and didn't have to recharge it until I got home. Not sure how much longer it would have lasted but well worth the money for me.

  • @johnmurman7240
    @johnmurman7240 2 роки тому +1

    I use a homemade battery for the past 4 years. 20ah. Lithium ion 6s so max voltage is 16.8. Could charge to 4 Volt per cell= 16v per the pack. Battery would then last longer since it’s not getting charged to max. I use a helix 7

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      Sweet!!

    • @natehoodoo6246
      @natehoodoo6246 2 роки тому

      I agree, 4s is the way to go. Built a few 12v-16v packs. All the ones he is talking about are 3s. Just needed to add 1 more cell!

  • @Korycaswell7887
    @Korycaswell7887 2 роки тому

    It’s a 3s lithium ion. Not iron phosphate. More than likely manganese cobalt variant. 4.2 when charged times 3 = 12.6. When depleted depending on manufacturers 8 something volts. 8.25ish. Cell low voltage cutoff is usually between 2.5-3v

  • @drdriveone
    @drdriveone 8 місяців тому

    Are you still doing videos?

  • @stevehogan8829
    @stevehogan8829 Рік тому

    Sir why are you assuming that users of this battery are using it with a fish finder? I use my FPV 12volt 50 ah, for my 55lb MinnKota trolling motor. You're creating an issues that isn't there.

  • @olds97lss
    @olds97lss 2 роки тому

    Look into lithium polymer for radio control rc's. Can get a $30 charger that would charge it in 3 hours (imax b6 ac/dc 5amp/50w) and a turnigy 16000mah 4S lipo for $100 which would be 12.8V fully discharged at 3.2V per cell. 16.8V fully charged, 14.8V nominal. Just make sure to get a $3 lipo voltage monitor to plug into the balance port.

    • @iceholepower8012
      @iceholepower8012  2 роки тому

      They won't hold up in the cold like LiFeP04.

    • @olds97lss
      @olds97lss 2 роки тому

      @@iceholepower8012 Yeah, I should have noticed your channel name... lol!

  • @paulzoch3279
    @paulzoch3279 Рік тому

    Yes I had that 10ah Nocqua, it was an absolute joke. Company did not back it up either. I really should have known better to trust their advertising on that mini 10ah.

  • @harold0723
    @harold0723 11 місяців тому

    You want to use the full capacity? Just put a voltage step up/down regulator .... You will use the entire capacity until the BMS cuts off..

  • @brandondodd7973
    @brandondodd7973 2 роки тому

    Order two Whitley DeWalt knockoff batteries off Amazon, buy the seelite adapter and report back. Should be under 100 bucks for 10ah total at 20v

  • @theloosemoose8200
    @theloosemoose8200 2 роки тому

    It's not the batteries fault, it's the devices that shutdown below a certain voltage.. my Garmin works just fine all the way down 2 (10v)....my 5amp/hr batt runs a striker4 vivid for 10 hours+

  • @Simcore999
    @Simcore999 Рік тому

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