A Full-Frame Red Komodo...?
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- Опубліковано 11 бер 2022
- Viltrox putting ARRI outta business huh? Guess we'll see.
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Here's a link if you wanna pick up the speed booster!: viltroxstore.com/collections/...
(Looks like they made a new one? With a fancy locking mechanism. Idk, I'm confused haha. Anyway, there it is)
Here are a couple of good comparison videos between the Viltrox, Metabones, and Canon EF to RF Speed Boosters for Red Komodo and Canon C70:
(I couldn't find the original ones I found but here is one comparison between Canon and Viltrox: • VILTROX vs. CANON 0.7... )
Thanks for watching! - Фільми й анімація
Ask your doctor if Viltrox is right for you
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this video is done incredibly well. from the easy to understand explanation to the animations. great job
LOVED the way you explained this man. Such a great vid and definitely helped push me to getting a speedbooster. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Your videos are without a doubt better than most. Good job dude and keep it up!!!!!!!
Thank you I appreciate it!!!❤️
this was such a fun video on such an inherently uninteresting topic, great work!
Speedbooster + black magic pocket 4k has been such a solid setup for me, big fan of the speedbooster life
Yes dude speed booster life is so good. Very necessary on the pocket 4k too! Great combo
Also Canon has their "official" speedbooster (made for the Canon C70 but works on the Komodo). Pricey but optically great and might allow for somewhat usable autofocus (compared to the Viltrox and Metabones) if that's something you want. Not that the autofocus of the Komodo is that great to begin with, but it's not the worst I've seen.
Very true. Yea I think C70 users should go with the Canon native one for sure and save that auto focus :)
Love your work my guy. I am actually waiting on my Red Komodo with the DZO 35mm and the Viltrox pro booster
Awesome video! Appreciate the info - explaining the science behind a speedbooster is no small feat!
Duuuuuuuude love it! Just ordered one for my Komodo. Definetly can see them as a great combo with the DZO Vespids. Thanks for the inspiration, keep up the great content and greetings from Germany :)
Niiice enjoy :) thanks for watching!!
Hey! Awesome video, are you pairing the dzo vespids ef or Pl with the speed booster ^^^ ?
@@LukeHolliday ^
this is a great review. Thanks for doing it
Bought one immediately, thanks for making this:
the super 35 and full frame has a subtle difference but makes a huge impact!
Excellent video! We own Alexa Mini (non-LF) packages, Sony, Canon and other cinema rigs. We just ordered a Komodo last week for our underwater work in a Gates housing. This morning we were meeting and discussing what glass for the Komodo U/W rig and the image crop on our FF lenses. I mentioned a speed booster to make up for the sensor crop with the wide angle lenses we are planning to use and this definitely cements that decision. Another factor we have to deal with is the desire to shoot at 60fps U/W on the Komodo which puts us even further in the hole on RED's internal sensor crop to 4k. I did read a cheat/hack for that issue as well to at least get 50fps and still be in 6k using the full width of the Komodo sensor. Thanks for a very timely tech post!
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Loved everything about the video! And this was by far the best ending till yet! Haha. Finally I’ll receive my Komodo Order next week:)
Cheers! Daniel from Germany
Haha thank you!! Thanks for watching!
oh thanks man, subscribed!
Hello, I am looking for a cinema camera for my short films, for videos and I love color correction and I love the color aesthetics of the Komodo although it is a bit expensive. I have a good budget and I am undecided which you recommend the Red Komodo or the Bmpcc 4k for a better price. It is also compatible with my Nikon lens for the camera I am in love with the color of the Komodo although both cameras have a good image.
Thanks so much. Very useful. Can you tell me what lenses did you use in some of this exaple footage? Above all, the closer shots. Thanks!!
Great Video man, thanks for the info, need to check out the Viltrox. Would love to see a video on your colour grading the red footage!
dude this was VERY ENGAGING! Noice!
yes, i learned alot. thank you man
Cool video.. I have a few Mamiya 645 lenses. It's not Cinemod'd yet.. Not sure how to stack that.. Will I have the Speedbooster, and a adapter for the Mamiya lens that fits into the speed booster?
Amazing ✨
Thanks for sharing ! Did you noticed optical loss of sharpness / blooming when wide open with the viltrox vs the metabones/canon ? I have this problem with my viltrox on bmpcc4K (also comes down to the pocket sensor filtration thickness difference vs other μ43)
I didn’t use the metabones and canon enough to really tell a difference! There may have been blooming, but I also had a pro mist on haha so who knows 🤷🏻♂️ definitely not a scientific test, but you can get some cool looks with it!
@@LukeHolliday Thanks ! I think you would have noticed, that blooming I am talking about is nothing compared to a promist effect. It is awful! And only appears under f/2 .
2 minutes in, still finishing.. does it soften the image with the extra glass in the filter? I remember using a speed booster on the bmpcc had soft image on the corners (almost like a circular shape of out of focus)…so not a vignette I’m talking about but a softened image.
Yes, I think with all speed boosters I've been getting some edge softness. I think it looks super cool! But obviously not great in all situations
Hey Luke! Thanks for this! - I wonder if this will work with the DZO pictor zoom lens, cause I read somewhere that the pictor glasses potrudes in the back so it can't work with boosters.
Hmmm yea I think it doesn’t work. I’ve also heard that they almost cover full frame sensors, but not quite. They’re mainly designed for S35 use 👍🏻
This is a seriously impressive video.
Has the compatibility of the viltrox mount changed with Canons announcement to more or less ban viltrox lenses and such?
What focal length do you film the talking head bits at? Looks great
Dude - this video was really tight. + sub
Yo love your stuff. Keep it up!
Thanks so much!!
I'm really interested to give it a try!
I’d love to know what lens you were using for the footage between :06-:15? Thanks!
Definitely enjoyed it! Today I saw another video about one of those mount adapters with the Red Komodo. Can't remember which was it was but it doesn't give any troubles with the electronic elements, nevertheless, I also use cinema lenses, so no worries. Loved the video. Thank you, and love the Komodo!!!!!!! (shooting with the bmpcc 6k pro for the moment) Cheers from Italy
what lenses did you use for the intro b roll? amazing shots man!
Was wondering - could you upload some footage to google drive so that we can play around with it at all?
what happens if you use a full frame lens on the komodo without any adapter?
Just got this one actually. The locking version though...Makes my iris lenses even better and like a 1.2 which is bonkers...
How do you like the Irix lenses ? Which one you have
Did you get the locking version from Metabones?
@@BreakneckVisuals Viltrox actually I think it was only $300ish bucks, tried it on the C-70 and worked great too!
Does this work with the PL Mount?
Only problem with the Viltrox speedboosters is the color shift… Metabones seems to be much better, not sure about the canon one.
That's a huge thing he didn't mention.
For me personally color accuracy is more important than covarage.
5:13 haha oh what a throwback 🤣
Great video Luke! One question: is the foot that comes with the adapter flush with the bottom of the komodo? Like could you screw your tripod plate into the bottom of the camera and into the adapter to prevent any wiggle the adapter might have? Thanks!
Thank you!! Undortunately, it is not flush. It actually needs to be removed to even get the adapter on the camera, since the komodo has a bit of a lip on the bottom. But for me, it's no problem since I always mount to my baseplate, which gives it a few inches of clearance. Highly recommend the Bright Tangerine Left Field baseplate for komodo, it's rock solid
As far as wiggle goes, its pretty much always gonna be a problem haha unless you use universal lens support underneath your lens. For actual gigs, I always go with something PL to make sure that doesn't happen. Speed booster has been more for fun / personal projects
@@LukeHolliday awesome thanks for the info!
what camera and lens did you use to shoot this video ?
When you shoot with your Helios, do you notice a huge difference in contrast at f/2 vs f/2.8+? I'm not sure if it is just my lens, but f/2 is almost impossible to color match. Maybe there's fungus in mine? Haha.
Yep I find that opening wide open makes the center very low contrast, so I usually stop down just barely. Maybe not all the way to 2.8, just very small
@@LukeHolliday
Glad I'm not the only one!
If anyone's curious, the song at the beginning is "Filthier" by Moony. That's the guy at the end eating and talking lol.
Ps: Luke your videos are awesome. Learning a lot from you!
what lens you used to shoot this video
I have a lot of RF lenses from my R5. So Komodo was an obvious choice for my ciné cam. But I do want the full frame look for the same reason you stated in the video. These 0.71 adapters are all RF to EF, what will be my solution here if I want to use my RF lenses? Thank you!
there's no solution, if u want to use RF lenses, cant use adapters, how u ll adapter RF to RF? The only thing I can think is: you can buy expense fast lenses to "look like" a full frame bokeh. W/ adapters u need to use EF lenses.
@@rufigueredo thanks, yeah I used some 1.2 lenses and while I can get the same bokeh, it’s so cropped in… waiting for a fast 16mm or at least a 35mm RF lens. Apparently Canon pushed it to 2023
In addition to what he says, get the Metabones T Cine version (exists in PL and EF) with 0.71 glass. The T Cine has a PL style lock and can be screwed into the camera plate. This way it won't move when you focus. The canon booster doesn't have the locking mechanism and will move based on my research.
Congratulations on absolutely changing the freakin game! DUDE! The full-frame Komodo look?!?! WHAT?!?! Unreal! Also really looking forward to 100 years of good luck, thanks!
Bonkerzzz bro! Yeah dude enjoy that fresh crispy luck!
wow, what lenses did u shoot this broll on? amazing look, I own a Komodo aswell, love it. AMAZING COLORS aswell dude, really impressive
Thanks so much!! I used mainly the sigma art 35mm 1.4!
@@LukeHolliday how do you like that lens ? I'm between 2 options for a c70 : sigma 35mm 1.4 + canon 0.71x or sigma 18-35mm...?
Quick question, are your canon FDs Ef converted or do you have an adapter that you stack to the speedbooster?
They’re EF converted 👍🏻
@@LukeHolliday simmod parts ?
But the deep of field doesn't change and it stil like a s35 sensor
Hi Luke! Thanks or the video! What lens did you use for this shots?
Thanks for watching! I used mainly Sigma Art prime lenses for the speed booster tests, and just the sigma 18-35 for the talking head portion :)
@@LukeHolliday Thank you! Have you tried the autofocus with Sigma Art prime?
ngl that salad looks bomb
Dope!!!!
Some have stated you lose 1 stop and sharpness degrades slightly when using a speed booster due to adding an additional layer of glass.
You actually gain a stop when you're using full frame glass! But yes, I wouldn't recommend using a speed booster if you are looking for razor sharp contrast / detail. But since I usually like a less sharp / clinical look, that's not much of an issue for me :)
@@LukeHolliday Great thanks for clarifying. UA-cam is like the wild, wild west with cowboys slinging good and bad information. Love your video 🖤Liked and subscribed! ✅
@@marklholloway hahah unfortunately :(
Thanks man I appreciate it!!
I glued Canon speedbooster to mine :)
With which lenses?
Muchas gracias me ayudo mucho
Great video. Liked and sub’d.
Unfortunately, at least for the not super expensive wide angle lenses, you get lots of vignetting because of the 0.9 FF boost
Solid math but one note: LF sensor is larger than FF. That’s why Arri deemed it LF (Larger Format aka Larger than FF).
Same for RED VV sensors. Also larger than FF.
A speedbooster crops in which is why you're not seeing the vignette... it doesnt make your shot wider it makes it tighter, but...you're gaining about a stop, which is why the background is more out of focus. So you're not going "wider" full frame, you're actually getting a tighter shot at 0.71 of the original image size.
That’s totally a thing! It’s called an expander :) A speed booster, aka focal reducer, does give you a wider FOV 👍🏻
@@LukeHolliday you're right it is the expander and it makes it wider. you're basically using the FF lens to its full potential. Not sure if it would be exactly the same as shooting on a full frame sensor but you're gaining some stop so hey! its shallower dof so its pretty much there. Worth testing it out
Dude I've been telling everyone about this. Grab a f1.4 and turn it into a f.95!
Well this video has succeeded... at making me a fan of Abby.
When did Chris Pine become a film maker?
Using a speed booster is no different to simply using a wider lens with faster aperture. Reducers only make sense if you already have a bunch of ff lenses.
New generation RF lenses can be much superior to older EF speed boosted lenses. You'll pay less for better RF lenses, with better optics, and wider FOV's than if you used this focal reducer. It's like getting an adapter to make your car tires bigger, you're better off just buying bigger tires and selling the smaller and older ones.
@@hufman9807 I totally agree that RF canon glass is better than their EF, but this video is mainly about having the ability to take existing FF lenses that can be EF (DZO Vespid, sigma art / cine, and pretty much any vintage lens adapted to EF) and use its full image circle, giving a large format feel. For example, the sigma art 35mm 1.4 I used for a lot of these tests ends up being equivalent to f/1.0 after it’s boosted. For a $300 adapter, it’s pretty cool what you can do!
@@hufman9807 and plus most DPs like myself aren’t even buying lenses, we’re renting on a per-project basis unless you really want to invest in a big expensive set 🥵
@@LukeHolliday No its not F1 it doesn't work like that.
It is entirely different. A wider lens is capturing more information at the light entry point of the lens itself, but being rendered on a smaller plain which is why even though the lens is wider, it will still look like it’s shot on a smaller sensor.
The speed booster increases the field of view that’s allowed to be rendered to the sensor, thus a wider image, but not optically distorted.
This is why attaching a wide lens to an iPhone camera, will still not hide the fact that it looks like it was shot on a tiny sensor.
Canon is the way
While you are mathematically right you are technically wrong, a super 35 sensor with a speed booster is still a super 35 sensor. A fullframe sensor like the LF or red Raptor have a different look as they have more dynamic range, dues to the larger number of photocites.
January 2024: Raptor X is here 😅
So if it’s more than full frame… it must be a medium format cinema camera
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super35 all the way. all this no background vibe has gone all the way too far. the 5d was amazing revolution, but now that arri is on board its become the new standard. what could be cool is if its super high Rez so we can still shoot super 35 with enough data and have the choice of either. I am just starting to miss looking at the backgrounds of things while characters are having conversations 😂
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"Viltrox putting ARRI outta business huh? Guess we'll see."
That statement made me laugh. It's such a bold statement and so far from the truth.
ARRI has tons of other advantages other than full frame covarage.
if this statement was true, nobody would buy a v raptor too. do you really think that your komodo is equal to the raptor with a speed booster?
This setup is still not like a real full frame sensor. Plus it probably color shifts the image. Yes, you can color edit extremely well with r3d files, but do you know how to? and do you even want to? These are key things to take in mind before investing in this setup.
If you don't care that much about colors, why buy a red in the first place?
That was the joke haha :)
@@LukeHolliday excuse me then :)
Shallow dof is overrated, immediately when I see this my mind goes to lower budget/indie. Even though cameras like monstro, mini lf, Alexa 65, panavision dxl2 or even imax give a shallower dof at a given tstop/focal length, often they will shoot at T4-T8 for lens performance, and they have well designed sets. They don’t need to mask the background because it’s designed so well. Look at your next bond film and tell me how many shots are ultra shallow dof vs being able to make out the background. Tbh this is why the joker vs the dark knight, the joker looks much lower budget (also because it is) than the dark night, even though in theory, imax can give you the shallowest dof possible, but Nolan chooses not to
Red and Viltrox 😂
Dont buy!
Buy Canon Version