Eloy Casagrande is NOT playing with a metronome in SLIPKNOT
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- Опубліковано 29 кві 2024
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Didn't expect to see my video in a Craig Reynolds video today but that's pretty cool
In your video, at exactly 2 minutes the music doesn't start, Corey and Vman look at Eloy and something is wrong. He starts the music and the road comes to fix something that wasn't right. From other angles you can see... There was a technical failure at the beginning of the show...
@@dyogocesar9132 incorrect… the 515 intro was still playing, the live music never starts with 515 as an opener until Sid’s final extended scream, Corey just gave him a “let’s do this” air fist bump.
Ever run into the DAAP gang?
@@TheHouseOfMasks I understood. Because at that moment he looks at the road, he runs to adjust something on the drums. Thanks for clarifying.
you're pretty cool. thanks for the great vid
Eloy's Doctor, on his birth:
"congratulations, it's a metronome"
he's AMAB (assigned metronome at birth)
Last time I saw this joke was Thomas Haake drum play through
🤣🤣🤣
Slipknot is honored to have Eloy Casagrande today
Com certeza absoluta
O nome da banda no Brasil hoje é "Eloy Casagrande and The Slipknots".
@@mariomuraokajunior1899 Verdade irmão
@@mariomuraokajunior1899 "Eloy e seus slipinotos" kkkkk
EVEN IF he was on a click for the ENTIRE show why should we give a flying fuck if he sounds this fucking good.
You're right
EXACTLY! lol who gives flying fu***
It doesn’t matter one bit. It’s just like when people try to use triggers as some kind of evil word.
Yup, pretty normal thing for a ton of bands. They sound super tight, and it sounds way better. I'm not even a Slipknot fan, just super impressed by this guy.
@@BrofUJu Eloy’s been my favorite drummer for a decade now. Do a deep dive of his drum play throughs you will not be disappointed
My boy eloy is not using a click. He created the tempo
He is the click
Actually the click need to follow eloy 😎
XD
and yet he messed it up. Not even really a fan of jay. But Eloy’s first show was kinda meh IMO. people = shit’s intro was so bad.
@@nathandrums0 you kidding right?
He's not using the metronome, the metronome uses Eloy.
Because Eloy is that good. 8:13 is Eloy making sure the metronome is with him.
The Eloy Heretic Anthem cover reaction was one of my faves. Feels like everything has come full circle
Looove that cover so much
"gimme that dick" - Craig
He just LOCKED. IN.
Exactly! That’s what a pro does !
Eloy is for sure the metronome. Just go watch his Modern Drummer appearance in 2005 when he was 14. lol
RIGHT?! I dont like the whos who on who is better...because they all are great... but eloy had them SMOKED at the age of 14... people are just massive gatekeepers when it comes to this band
I watched this live but bet your ass I’ll watch it again
You and me both. 🤝
I dare you
When they play Disasterpiece you can actually hear Eloy speed up on the third blastbeat in the intro, just like the record where Joey sped up. I guess he's doing it to stay true to the record and to the feel of the song. So he's definitely not using a clicktrack on that song.
Well…that’s the tempo on the original song…it’s not a defect, it is made on purpose to charge up the start of the song 😅😊
@@or1on89 Yeah, that's literally how the song is written.
Definitely that was the way the song was written. Which you can do with a click track live. If you using a click track through a DAW like protools or any other. So u map the tempo change. Still doesn’t answer the question that he is using a click live with them. Who cares if they are or not. A good drummer can still groove along a click track ;)
Which is why we love Eloy - he's staying true to Joey's playing where it matters. He's also been throwing in his own fills on some songs. Heretic Anthem during Sick new World saw him throwing down some amazing fills he's written for the music too. So not only is he staying true to the recorded material and SMASHING IT he's throwing in his own personality on top of it. Dude is a fucking powerhouse.
Did it on people = shit too
Obviously he was in one of biggest metal bands in the world and is now in another one of the biggest metal bands in the world, but in his lesser known work, he can really mess with time, such as polyrhythms and odd meters.
The dude is quite literally the whole package for drumming. He's so versatile. And his ability to do odd meter/prog metal/djent could really bring Slipknot into uncharted territory musically.
Orrrrrrr Slipknot could be his way to let loose and have his lesser known project Casagrande & Hanysz be where he's more thoughtful and meticulous with his compositions (similar to Aric Improta when he was in Fever 333 and then his main, lesser known band, Night Verses).
"but in his lesser known work, he can really mess with time, such as polyrhythms and odd meters."
There are complicated parts like this in Slipknot and/or Sepultura
Best metal drummer on the planet and watching him on drumeo get super serious about nailing drums for a Christmas song made me love him even more.
I'd really like to hear some odd tempos in new era slipknot material being written by Eloy. And I think he'll prove his worth to the band not only as a phenomenal drummer, but as an arranger as well.
I stumbled upon night verses. Fucking awesome music! Aric improta is amazing!
I don’t know why people act like a click track is a bad thing…a lot of drummers can’t play with them and that speaks to their timing issues…so if he’s able to play flawlessly with it, it’s impressive.
Straight up lol. It's WAY easier to just uh not use a click. Any drummer will admit it's harder to keep the groove with the click as opposed to just.......jamming freely - especially during a live setting.
Yeah, I was going to say. Way harder to play with a click than to play without one in my experience.
@@DeelyStanimals It's actually really tough to maintain a solid tempo without a click track. Sure, playing along in general might be "easier" - but the point is how consistent the tempo is without it.
No one legitimate is saying playing with a click is a bad thing, but generally speaking, you can tell very quickly when a drummer/band isn't using one due to the fluctuation in tempo and/or just being a little rushed. Or a lot rushed. To not use one and sound like you're using one is what's crazy. Especially in your first ever live performance with Slipknot when your adrenaline has got to be through the roof.
Also see: how Danny Carey has never recorded to a click on any Tool album. Boggles the mind.
Cause the majority of drummers don't do they homework properly. The freaking metronome should be every musician's friend.
I love how Craig talks about the click like it's the newest drug on the market for drummers. If he had a click who fucking cares, Eloy plays great.
i do love the click but it discredits Eloy for reddit to be like ‘he’s on a click that’s why he’s so tight’. He’s not and that’s even more impressive
also all the influencer types claiming they know he’s on a click. I’m just showing the proof he isn’t and why it’s so impressive
@@reynlord666 I got that and agree, it just looks mentally exhausting for the big boy drummy drum drum influencers to think about it.
I think the click gets such a bad rep because everyone that uses one uses a constant speed click.
Like, big speed fluctuations are usually annoying as hell, but a lot of the small fluctuations in tempo, like the beginning of duality, actually help a lot of song styles. Thing is, metronomes can do that, and good drummers should be able to follow suit, so, if a band prepares enough, there should be no noticeable downside to a band using a click, at least from an audience perspective.
What’s with the hate? For real ? Take that bs attitude somewhere else. You wanna live like that have fun . Tryin to be big time with your comments is just LAME.
New head tattoos look dope man! 🤘🏻 Eloy is incredible, no better drummer to step in!
Love a good bit of conch watching at lunch time.
Can we talk about how ridiculously cool that modified mask Corey wore is? That is sick shit.
Eloy has learned from some of the best drum teachers in Brazil, including Aquiles Priester, since he was a child. He isn't a phenomenon; he's rather the result of decades of hard work by him, his family, and his teachers. Perhaps the state of the art in terms of drumming musical learning for heavy metal.
All this included does not mean he is not a phenomenon. Actually he is a genius and had great teachers.
you could go to the same teachers since birth and be a trash drummer. dude has a natural talent, yes he had some great drummers helping him but that does not take away the fact he is just that guy
Great investigation.. Eloy is the most fuckin amazing and exciting drummer I've heard in decades
Love the insight, Craig. Always a pleasure learning something new
Thanks Craig. I remember 2-3 years ago when you said. "One of the biggest band on the planet, why dont you nick him" while watching an Eloy video.
Glad I brought this up during the steam now. Made for a good video!
amazing breakdown, exciting times!
Its awesome to watch you talking about eloy and slipknot, since the first time I had desires of seeing eloy on slipknot was on your brillhant react of him playing The Eloy Heretic Anthem. Fan service at its finest. Also, really dig that you brought a non-obvious angle about all of this ❤
Still, your reaction is the best 😅
Miss these type of vids from you (haven’t missed a beat since the pandemic) ❤️
Excellent video! RESPECT man!
Really good chill commentary 👌
craig is pointing out facts. I get annoyed when people say about eloy, that he's playing "robotic" and doesn't bring the "energy" because he's not rushing and playing fkin tight as hell. Since when it is a weakness for drummers to play perfectly in time and having built up this skill over years of hard work... this man is just good. just because you are conditioned to hearing unclean drummers live, pls don't discredit the ones that have put the work in their craft.
Now THIS was the person I wanted to hear insight from. Heck yes! Thanks for this, Craig!
You said everything, THIS IS ART!
I’ve never conchentrated so hard
All things aside, you lighting and image quality is amazing ! One of the best I've seen on youtube !
Looking forward to more conch watch in the future
I mean the butt thing sounds like a product idea
I think a Chess Player holds the patent iirc
Clever man, amazing video
I saw Eloy with Sepultura a few years ago and wow. It was a small club and you could feel his hits. Man is incredible and such a heavy hitter
You're a legend. That was great info.
So stoked to see Slipknot this summer! 🤘
Thanks for that!
Another great vid🔥🔥🔥
Ive been waiting for Craig... to me,literally the only one on youtube who isnt biased..who isnt saturated with the whole (look af me im an youtuber bs) just raw drum talk,jokes,and honest opinions... exactly how it should be..
Thanks again Craigo .. you are a real one
thanks it’s also why i have half as many subs :(
@@reynlord666 subs nowadays are for fakery and delusional mumble talkers who "act" like they care for the music... we know who Craig is..and Definitely who we search for when we want an honest view on our beloved music..
Keep being exactly how you are...the banter is 🤘🤘
Craig, did you see the recent side view videos of Eloy's kit ? There are cables coming out of the very right hand kick. Kick 4 of 4. Interesting for a Slipknot set up.
I will love to see Eloy on your podcast!
This is proper detective work, well done Craig.
Totally here for the start of OnlyConch
U are the truth teller.
The conch😂
Eloy MONSTER Casagrande.
Just found your channel and subscribed ❤ love the snarky attitude and the fact that you’re willing to share your knowledge instead of just reacting. I’m fairly new to the metal world, as I just discovered Slipknot maybe a year ago - but I fell in love with metal so much I decided to buy a drum kit and see if I can learn some songs! I started like 3 weeks ago and I’m working on learning Enter Sandman haha I’ve got a lot of catching up to do music wise. Any suggestions on bands/songs I should look into??
stick with Metallica for starting and look at Gojira for inspiration
@@reynlord666 that’s awesome man, thank you so much! I started the 30-day free trial on Drumeo and 3 weeks in, I’m reading sheet music, and doing 16th notes with a single pedal - pretty awesome considering I had never sat behind a kit before! Thanks again, I’ll check Gojira out!
Hey Craig I think sometimes they do use in ears. If you check out resurrection fest last year you can see it. I guess it could be show dependent?
Great shirt!!!!
Love your shirt Craig.
Eloy also doesn't use triggers which is nuts with how consistent his sound is.
“That’s an empty conch!” - never thought I’d be so ingrossed in conch watch
as a brazilian and huge fan of Eloy, having watched him with both Glória and Sepultura several times live, Jay will probably always be my fav Slipknot drummer.. I absolutely love him on vol. 5 and that became my all time favorite album of the band
it doesn’t mean I’m not totally excited to see what new works are coming out our way with Eloy, I’m super hyped to see if they somehow implement his unique style (which he developed even more lately in Sepultura) on Slipknot’s new stuff
Love you Craig. Miss your content, but I’m glad you’re busy enough that you don’t need to do it
The but plug click track line had me laughing. What a concept! Porter and Davies, over to you 😂
I don’t play any instruments but love to see Craig’s explanation and passion for it ❤
Eloy has relit the fire for me. He his hard, stays true to time. Not shitting on Jay. Thank you for your time dude, kept the band going! But I’m super super happy having Eloy join the ranks and offering his talents ❤
Your reactions rule 🔥
Love that TON shirt. Miss those guys.
That is a freaking good video.
Love using a click just for the first 8-16 bars at the start of songs. Really helps with starting off at the right tempo but then having the freedom especially to drag slow heavy parts. Have recorded a couple of albums that way too, just means the takes have to be solid all the way through.
Craig, appreciate the video mate. You are down to earth and relatable. Do you have a video that me and my 8 year old can watch on how to learn double bass properly. It would be nice to hold a consistent double bass without dying 39 seconds later lol
You're spot on.
And to those taking issue with it, so what if they did play the whole set to a reference click? There are many production related reasons to do so and any band actually able to play to a click are far more capable musicians for it in my book.
I'm all for whatever works for the band and the music. I find the majority of people griping about a click are those unable to keep time well enough to walk at a steady pace, let alone keep time in a band setting.
Great video.
Playing to a click, especially with alot of time sig and tempo changes, is a LOT harder than folk think it is, especially live. It takes getting used to, for sure. Personally, I don't care, either... Eloy can use whatever ingredients he wants to cook with, and I am still gonna eat whatever comes out, bc that shit is gonna be gourmet! \m/
10 minutes of Slipknot Ear-O-Vision > react videos. I cannot wait to hear the professionally produced version of these shows or at least something better than phone audio with Eloy on drums. Even on these recordings you can feel the rawness and power he brings. Jay is and was amazing but Eloy captures the essence of Joey (ergo the heart of Slipknot) so very well. Cannot wait to hear more
You made me start watching reaction videos and NOW you're making me give up on them. Thanks.
Nasty conch action
I absolutely lost it at “now we’re on Mick conch watch” 🤣🤣
Just here for the Type O shirt!! 💚💚
Why would people hate on the mighty click?
It's the same people that hate on triggers.
I mean, a lot of music sounds significantly better to me when there's a natural shift in tempo between parts. I think a lot of people are way too obsessed with making things "perfect" and a lot of subtlety gets lost in my opinion. Nothing to do with hate, just different aesthetic sensibilities.
To be fair it does change how a performance sounds, but it's kind of personal preference at that point. I like that Slipknot doesn't play to a click although the pretention around it is very dumb.
Love seeing Craig on a SM7.
The color on your head tattoo is so vibrant that it burnt my eyes and I fekking love it
Also Eloy is a god and you rule
"Conch Watching" 🤣
Im here for the conch watching 😂😄😂
It would also make sense for Eloy to not use a click (at least for the earlier stuff) since every album before AHIG wasn’t recorded to a metronome.
Eloy Bighouse!!!
Doing the lords work
I remember seeing a bunch of the slipknot boys’ names on JH Audio’s endorsee lists many ears ago. I’m not sure if it’s the video quality or if it’s IEMs that blend in with their skin tones, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they were all on them which doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re playing to a click.
There’s a LiveBPM app (I believe with the same name) that I wanted to test the videos with, just to see how much variation there is in tempo because it’s just so tight, but then again, I know that Eloy is just a beast. I’ve even spoken to him about this (amongst other things) a few years ago and all he had to say was “No No, I’m not that good, man. I just try.”
Top guy, top drummer and I am so stoked for him.
Could you play the ending of Before I Forget to a click when not everybody has in-ears? I guess they could drop the click for the last few bars idk
The metronome follows him.
It interesse what you saying over the singel part thx you
THATS A CONCH! Fucking priceless mate
I really dig your tshirt
Eloy is such a powerfull an amazing drummer
Love the heavy sarcasm
totally agree with everything in this but just wanted to add:
my band has guitar-started songs that I (sometimes) play with a click where I don’t count in and the guitarist doesn’t wear in ears! It is possible! I use an SPDSX with a footswitch to the left of my hihat pedal, that footswitch starts/stops the click in my headphones anytime I want. So I’ll let the guitarist start the song, and then when I come in I just hit the footswitch and we’re on the click. Guitarist is good+rehearsed enough that he’s never very far off and the transition isn’t jarring.
I’ll frequently cut the click after 8ish bars of the song, and then maybe bring it back in later in the song just to check. it also lets us rawdog gradual tempo changes which typically feels better to me than trying to follow an accelerating or slowing metronome. But I do also sometimes use more traditional preprogrammed tempo map clicks on certain songs with many tempo changes for the first couple shows of tour just we can get our sea legs under us so to speak.
Empty conch 😂😂😂
Eloy é esse absurdo mesmo. You Bet!
Jay and Eloy are friends. Jay is pretty happy with this and he's in a great band too.
I don't know anyone who's down on Eloy. He's just so likeable and talented.
@@crankfastle8138I don’t see how anyone could be a fan of drumming and not be a fan of Eloy. So skilled but also super humble to boot
Jay unfollowed Eloy on Instagram though, so idk lol.
@@sorin_ea6 LOL That's true. Eloy still follows Jay. That's weird.
"I'm a very hateable character." What a great line. 🤣 Craig Rules.
bro I’m at the wrong gig!
Thanks for the clever man stuff clever drum man, you rock.
Played in a slipknot tribute band (that ran Sid and Craig's parts via a backing track) - we based EVERYTHING off the studio releases, so the tempo maps looked like a rollercoaster after I finished building the click/backing track. Fluctuations every bar - not huge ones, but noticeable.
Viva La Eloy!!!🤘🤘🤘
I had the same doubt as to whether they were playing with a click or not. So I conducted a test: I downloaded the audio from "Before I Forget" at this show and tried to put it on the grid in Reaper
The song starts at 136 bpm, which is the original tempo of the studio version. After the first verse where Eloy makes the snare fills, the song jumps to a faster bpm. So the fact is that the click is only being used at the beginning of the song to ensure it doesn't start faster than it really is
Professional！
I don't play drums, but I have a question. Does it sound more robotic when you play with click? More stuck to the time grid? I'm thinking about the process of producing music in DAW, we always try not to be stuck in the grid. It may be stupid what I'm saying but I don't understand and I'm curious.
I think the case with Duality, is that because as you said its a big song that they want at tempo, so Eloy counts it in to the metronome he has at the side of him to make sure it starts at the right speed. If you let the guitars and vocal control the speed anything can happen, especially as they aren't on clicks.
Probably because of the long drawn out vocal lines in the intro.
I need that type o negative shirt
I’m loving all these other content creators who wrote slipknot off for firing jay now back on the tip of the stick 😂
Type O'Negative!!! 🤘🤘🤘
Sorry for the honesty, but Jay never had the power or precision needed, also, his double bass was sloppy and inconsistent. Finally a drummer who can honor Joey's legacy.
Not hating, but Joey’s tempo was even more sloppy than Jay’s, he used to rush absolutely eveything. Though, he had the right energy and glue with the band.
@@volpe_sol dude, get some new ears and watch Disasterpieces…if Joey was going faster is because the band wanted to go faster and for a period Slipknot had that thing to change it live. But before the Vol 3 tour it was really impressive what they could do while throwing pigs’ heads at each other.
@@or1on89 I love how the band sounded with Joey, he's the og after all. Im just pointing out the FACT that he wasn't the tightest drummer in terms of fluctuating tempos. Watch him subbing for Korn during the 2007 self-titled era especially.
@@volpe_sol Oh yeah, he wasn't the tightest but it fitted well with Slipknot at the time, how chaotic & aggressive they were.
@@or1on89 The drummer is the one who controls the speed of the music.