@@franchisefred4066 no one is forcing people to buy them with markups and some dealers still have waiting lists for purchasing at MSRP. Regardless, they'll hold their value just as well (if not better) than the previous generation R. If this is truly the last fully combustion engine R, a model with low miles and good maintenance would probably sell for quite a lot in another 20-30 years. Edit: I agree, for 80k, there are better cars. I don't like dealer markups either, but not all of them will be sold for 70+.
@@moisesojeda1085 yea, i definetly think one could call the brz a "sports car." why you trying to make specifics out of a totally generic term, it doesnt work like that
Congrats on the new FL5! I agree with 100% about the quality. That is the first thing you notice when driving this car. The build quality is definitely taken to another level on this one compared to the Fk8. They stepped it up a lot!
Topher will be kicking his shoes together many times before entering this new rocket!! (I think you forgot to do this because of your moment of excitement in this video) Enjoy! I love watching all your POVs and the one you made of the FK8 help me decide on getting one a few years ago.
@@commentmancommentman1658 I have to take a break over winter while it's like 30° out. We don't have heat in our garage unfortunately:( but rest assured we've got lots of stuff planned once it warms up!
Congrats man. I bought an Elantra N DCT at the end of October for my birthday. Drove 4 hours out of town to get it with no markups and 39k out the door. I feel like the EN and the CTR are probably the closest competitors to each other from a track perspective and daily as well.
Congratulations on the Type-R! Watching your videos and how much you enjoy driving manuals help inspire me to learn too. Currently enjoying my new to me ND2 Miata!
So happy you got this car! Ive been subscribed like 2 years i think and youve been awesome and the type R is my dream car so im always glad to see your content on it, enjoy!
I ended up pulling the trigger on a few years old STI instead of waiting for one of these to show up. I am tired of dealing with Toyota and Honda dealerships at this point wanting 25k over MSRP. I will enjoy the STI until the prices of these comes down to 40k. Great car, but I will have to wait.
The only internal part of an engine that needs "break in" is the piston rings. Not bearings, not seals, not gaskets, not chains, nothing else at all. By the time the engine gets about 25 miles with proper loads, specially since this car gets tested at the factory before delivery, your completely fine sending it after that. All those break in myths are unfounded and perpetuated by folks that dont know what they talk about, ask real engine experts on your own to confirm.
Hey Topher, one thing I used to do with my GTI was to put a sock inside out on the shift knob when I parked. Helped it from getting piping hot in the summer and better than touching the freezing knob in the winter. Congrats on the amazing new car!
Congrats! I’ve been a fan for a few years and I am so happy to see how much you and this channel have grown. Thank you for sharing and have fun with the new whip!
Me too. I love my Si but the Type R is for sure my dream car. To bad it's basically unobtainium at the point with the insane mark ups. If I could get it at msrp I would actually be able to afford it. But I see them going for 60-70k and that's just insane.
I picked up my 23 type r yesterday in championship white. She's a bat out of hell... enjoy yours tomorrow I get the forged rims, carbon wing, lit door sills, and rain guards installed. I also grabbed the floor mats.
Note that you film at night and the lighting is weak, but you gave the right to the car because all the reviews about the car and the videos that I used to see in the past were beautifying the look of the car, but you gave me another impression, I felt that I was with you by the way I liked that you used a lamp The phone 😂👍🏽 Thank you bro
Congrats on getting the Type R! Two years ago I test drove an 18 Type R and knew I had to get one one day. Since then I found your channel and have watched pretty much all of your Type R content. Helps me cope ha! My wife is sick of hearing about cars though! Take a road trip down to North Carolina with that thing and let’s go on the Tail of Dragon while I’m waiting to get one myself ha! Looking forward to more Type R content! Keep it coming!
Tbh the FK8 markups didn't really cool down with time, especially with the supply issues that came during COVID. Even for the 2021s at the end of production, some dealers were asking $20K over with a straight face. But, like you mentioned, getting on lists from msrp dealers will eventually get you one for msrp if you're patient.
2019 was the best time to buy an FK8. My buddy shopped around the Seattle area and most places were about $3-5k over during that time. He was able to go to a dealer 2 hours away for MSRP, and pick it up same day in the color he wanted. As a major recession looms over us, I can only imagine 2023-24 will be better than current time to get into an FL5 brand new.
@@AsAngelsFall221 Nice! I was able to pick my 2021 up for msrp too, about 50 minutes from my house. Like the FK8, plenty of dealers will be willing to sell for msrp, just maybe not the one closest to you. But I don't see the trend of many dealers trying to get markups on these cars ever coming to an end, especially with the EV era right around the corner.
if you even think there is half a chance you want that alcantara steering wheel or any other accessories that seem reasonably priced I would buy them immediately. You won't lose money on them if you decide not to use them but you can pretty much rest assured the prices will go up once they go on backorder after the first batch of crap runs out.
I have my deposit down on mine and I'm number 2 at the dealership to get mine there is 1 on the way so hopefully I'll have mine in another 3 to 4 months hopefully and congrats Topher on the new type r 👍
Protect your family and order a winter tire and wheel package from Tire rack. Set of steelies with Michelin XICE or Blizaks. Then report your driving experience throughout the winter and prove that a properly equipped sports car can be driven year through the winter. Then add summer tires for the track days this summer. It would be nice to see a long term POV for a sports car that's economical, reliable, safe in the winter and fun at the track- all within a reasonable budget.
Still waiting on remote start with a manual ☠️ Seriously it would be so easy but not a single manufacturer has spent the 10 Horus of R&D it would take to develop it and it makes me mad
What other colours were offered? I know championship white is definitely the best out of all, but I’ve seen black civics at dealers on videos. And here in Canada at least on the website we get (Champ White, Red, Grey Pearl)
I hope the SI or other models with manual gearboxes are available in decent numbers for those of us here in Europe who don't fancy fake gear changes on a CVT 😱
Heyyyy vw gang/euro gang/dual clutch gang gang member over here lol. Not really a Japanese auto lover but after watching this video I have to say this is truly a sweet machine. And I can totally feel you are going to have lots of fun in this thing. Soo no matter which gang we choose to be in, we all in the car gang lmfaoooo looking forward to your new content, drive safe and enjoy 👍
the mad man did it
Right, I was at work when i read title and smiled. Congrats Topher
@@j.a.g.8689 80k for a 4 banger 😂
@@franchisefred4066 😐 just wait till it has upgraded turbos / FBO
@@franchisefred4066 no one is forcing people to buy them with markups and some dealers still have waiting lists for purchasing at MSRP. Regardless, they'll hold their value just as well (if not better) than the previous generation R. If this is truly the last fully combustion engine R, a model with low miles and good maintenance would probably sell for quite a lot in another 20-30 years.
Edit: I agree, for 80k, there are better cars. I don't like dealer markups either, but not all of them will be sold for 70+.
@@franchisefred4066 what’s wrong with a 4c. Way better than a v6 and you get better mileage than any engine type
Topher got 2 new sports cars within a year. We are truly in another JDM golden era
I’m hoping it’s a start.
these cars aren't jdm, they're usdm
@Pol I respect classic JDM. this new junk they’re putting out is embarrassing
@@RA-ui8yw fastest fwd car in the world is embarrassing junk?
@@holmieg3435 fastest fwd isn't a Honda it's a Hyundai 🤣
Congrats bro, so happy to see how far you've come. Enjoy it in good health, you truly deserve it.
The man convinced his wife to buy two sport cars in one year. 🐐
😂
brz a sports car lol
@@moisesojeda1085 yea, i definetly think one could call the brz a "sports car." why you trying to make specifics out of a totally generic term, it doesnt work like that
@@siguy3546 were the Del Sol and Celica GT sports cars too?
@@moisesojeda1085yup, this ain’t news man it has the reputation of being one of the best affordable sports cars.
Congrats on the new FL5! I agree with 100% about the quality. That is the first thing you notice when driving this car. The build quality is definitely taken to another level on this one compared to the Fk8. They stepped it up a lot!
FL5 is made in Japan, huge difference.
@@elusivellama the materials used also plays a big role. Huge difference in the 11th gen civic as a whole vs the 10th gen. 😎
Finally quit making the car in the UK with their lousy fit and finish.
They're the same in quality whether it was made in japan or uk.
Interesting to hear, considering what a huge leap the 10th gen was over the 9th gen in terms of build quality
Whats crazy is all of the cars you have driven you chose the FL5. That shows the quality of the craftsmanship of how Honda builds with love. Enjoy!
Topher will be kicking his shoes together many times before entering this new rocket!! (I think you forgot to do this because of your moment of excitement in this video)
Enjoy!
I love watching all your POVs and the one you made of the FK8 help me decide on getting one a few years ago.
This and the GR Corolla are my current “attainable” dream cars. Congrats! I’m hoping I can buy one new in the next few years.
I’m so happy!!!!! To see that someone that drives so many different vehicles love a good HONDA!!!!
Enjoy it! I love cruising around to break in a car. FYI, I used to put a cloth wristband over the metal shift knob in my RSX during the winter.
Same! Used a sock sometimes too
I kept a beanie hat in my glovebox when I had a metal shift knob on my old car
@@pattyboi eii pattyboi! When is the next vid comming up?
@@commentmancommentman1658 I have to take a break over winter while it's like 30° out. We don't have heat in our garage unfortunately:( but rest assured we've got lots of stuff planned once it warms up!
Beautiful car and super happy for you bro! I hope the dealer didn't hurt you with a big markup! Drive fast and dont die🤟🏼
Congrats! BRZ plus CTR is a great combo. If one car breaks, track the other!
Exactly!
Congrats on the Type r, glad you’re keeping the brz as well.
Getting my 86 next week, exciting times
Congrats man. I bought an Elantra N DCT at the end of October for my birthday. Drove 4 hours out of town to get it with no markups and 39k out the door. I feel like the EN and the CTR are probably the closest competitors to each other from a track perspective and daily as well.
I'd rather Elantra n
@Layne Whatever you say keyboard warrior.
Congratulations on the Type-R! Watching your videos and how much you enjoy driving manuals help inspire me to learn too. Currently enjoying my new to me ND2 Miata!
Dude, same here! Having a blast learning on my ND2!
Good luck and fun with your new car 😀
Your spec looks great! Looking forward to your upcoming videos. I’m shocked to see an actual gas cap.
Congrats on the new ride brother, Honda did a fantastic job on this thing
I redline my new Honda cars right off the lot when I get them, including my last Type-R. It was great in the winter too.
So happy you got this car! Ive been subscribed like 2 years i think and youve been awesome and the type R is my dream car so im always glad to see your content on it, enjoy!
I ended up pulling the trigger on a few years old STI instead of waiting for one of these to show up. I am tired of dealing with Toyota and Honda dealerships at this point wanting 25k over MSRP. I will enjoy the STI until the prices of these comes down to 40k. Great car, but I will have to wait.
If I had the money this would definitely be the two cars I would pick right now too, but I’d rather have the 86 over the brz. Great choices Topher!
Love that 850R. Good for you it’s not gone forever 😁
The only internal part of an engine that needs "break in" is the piston rings. Not bearings, not seals, not gaskets, not chains, nothing else at all. By the time the engine gets about 25 miles with proper loads, specially since this car gets tested at the factory before delivery, your completely fine sending it after that. All those break in myths are unfounded and perpetuated by folks that dont know what they talk about, ask real engine experts on your own to confirm.
Congrats man! You deserve it. Best car review channel out there
Hey Topher, one thing I used to do with my GTI was to put a sock inside out on the shift knob when I parked. Helped it from getting piping hot in the summer and better than touching the freezing knob in the winter. Congrats on the amazing new car!
I think it looks more like a family friendly sport sedan now than it's previous gen but it's also a very clean look that I'm slowly enjoying.
Congrats! I’ve been a fan for a few years and I am so happy to see how much you and this channel have grown. Thank you for sharing and have fun with the new whip!
What a beauty! Congrats!
Can't wait to hear your thoughts after a period of ownership and what future mods you have planned!
Congratulations Topher, I'm happy for you.
Congrats bro you deserve it!!
I have a ‘22 civic Si but this right here is my dream car. Congrats!
Me too. I love my Si but the Type R is for sure my dream car. To bad it's basically unobtainium at the point with the insane mark ups. If I could get it at msrp I would actually be able to afford it. But I see them going for 60-70k and that's just insane.
@@daigo12865I like the type R at $40k but imo when approaching $50k and up I just don’t see the value in it. Too much competition at those prices
Jealous how Euro Spec FL5 get auto power folding mirrors when unlocked & front/rear parking sensors compared to USA spec fl5 is pretty base
Congratulations Topher! She’s a beauty!!
VTEC just kicked in yo!
Hope to catch you on the road one of these days, you're the best! Great purchase, i love the new civic.
5-10k above… lol… they have a boost blue one for 83k at my local dealership… lol
Congrats on the type r. You deserve it. Great car with great reliability
I want this car. Topher's approval seals the deal.
Congrats! I’ll live vicariously through you until my February build gets here. Let’s hope it’s championship white like yours.
Congratulations! Have fun with it. I'll tune in for vicarious driving experiences. Be nice to have a realistic driving game with this!
I picked up my FL5 yesterday in Rallye Red. Build number 720. I'll be posting videos on it soon.
im drooling. good for you brother! have fun out there
I picked up my 23 type r yesterday in championship white. She's a bat out of hell... enjoy yours tomorrow I get the forged rims, carbon wing, lit door sills, and rain guards installed. I also grabbed the floor mats.
omg bro you bought it! Congrats!!! Super sick post. You are my favorite my bro
i love you. thank you for sharing this positive experience
No fog lights and no flat-bottom steering wheel -why?? The previous gen has both of those!
only thing i hate about it is probably the E brake/parking button.
Note that you film at night and the lighting is weak, but you gave the right to the car because all the reviews about the car and the videos that I used to see in the past were beautifying the look of the car, but you gave me another impression, I felt that I was with you by the way I liked that you used a lamp The phone 😂👍🏽 Thank you bro
A type r and a brz. You sir have my semi- realistic dream 2 car garage. Currently have an 86 and an old corolla.
Congratulations man! I’m so glad you got one and can’t wait for more content!
Nice 70 thousand dollar Civic!! deals to be had!!!!
Congrats topher!!
Honda makes the best engines, that thing is a total machine.
they look so good in person my buddy just got one in blue
All the videos I’d seen so far were during the day so I didn’t realize it had that red interior accent lighting! Love it!
Congrats on getting the Type R! Two years ago I test drove an 18 Type R and knew I had to get one one day. Since then I found your channel and have watched pretty much all of your Type R content. Helps me cope ha! My wife is sick of hearing about cars though! Take a road trip down to North Carolina with that thing and let’s go on the Tail of Dragon while I’m waiting to get one myself ha! Looking forward to more Type R content! Keep it coming!
wow, congratz Topher!
I was just cruising around my town and a friggin Bronco Raptor pulls out in front of me.
Congrats man on the new whip! Sick little car.
Omg, the Topher actually got this. 😱. Congrats Sir!!!
congratulations! As a Japanese, I am proud that you chose a BRZ and a Civic.😊
Congrats! I really enjoy the FL5. The FK8 was an overstyled mess lol
Tell me you're boring without telling me you're boring. 😂
i absolutely love this gen ctr. love the looks of it i think honda did it absolutely perfectly evolving from the previous gen to this its perfect
Tbh the FK8 markups didn't really cool down with time, especially with the supply issues that came during COVID. Even for the 2021s at the end of production, some dealers were asking $20K over with a straight face. But, like you mentioned, getting on lists from msrp dealers will eventually get you one for msrp if you're patient.
2019 was the best time to buy an FK8. My buddy shopped around the Seattle area and most places were about $3-5k over during that time. He was able to go to a dealer 2 hours away for MSRP, and pick it up same day in the color he wanted. As a major recession looms over us, I can only imagine 2023-24 will be better than current time to get into an FL5 brand new.
@@AsAngelsFall221 Nice! I was able to pick my 2021 up for msrp too, about 50 minutes from my house. Like the FK8, plenty of dealers will be willing to sell for msrp, just maybe not the one closest to you. But I don't see the trend of many dealers trying to get markups on these cars ever coming to an end, especially with the EV era right around the corner.
They'll be round for years
@@AsAngelsFall221 You could get one at MSRP in the east coast back then. My frind deven got his 2019 in VA with $500 cheaper than the MSRP lmaoooo
I wonder if he'll ever tell us anything about the buying experience or how he managed to get the Type R.
feels like all the prominent car youtubers and journalists are getting Type Rs
I know right! It must all just be a coincidence!
I'm not even envious, I'am just happy for you.
so happy for you man!
if you even think there is half a chance you want that alcantara steering wheel or any other accessories that seem reasonably priced I would buy them immediately. You won't lose money on them if you decide not to use them but you can pretty much rest assured the prices will go up once they go on backorder after the first batch of crap runs out.
I have my deposit down on mine and I'm number 2 at the dealership to get mine there is 1 on the way so hopefully I'll have mine in another 3 to 4 months hopefully and congrats Topher on the new type r 👍
Oh what? congrats man!!
The hot hatch king reigns again with some fairly respectable competitors.
Car looks amazing! Can’t wait for more type R content!!
Looking great Mr. Topher! Congratulations!
Congrats bro! Can’t wait for future videos
Protect your family and order a winter tire and wheel package from Tire rack. Set of steelies with Michelin XICE or Blizaks. Then report your driving experience throughout the winter and prove that a properly equipped sports car can be driven year through the winter. Then add summer tires for the track days this summer. It would be nice to see a long term POV for a sports car that's economical, reliable, safe in the winter and fun at the track- all within a reasonable budget.
My man here has a two car garage where the BRZ is the winter. Amazing. I support the lift on the BRZ.
Congratulations on the new car!
Thanks for the video, the interior look amazing at night
Just got my 21 accord serviced today at my local dealer and they have a white 23 type r on the showroom floor
Quite a surprise, didn’t think topher would go this route. 🎉
Congrats on the new car bro
why would you put all seasons on a car like this if you aren't planning on using it in winter?
Congrats on the new type R! I’m a huge fan, love your videos! You deserve it!
The only folks I've seen with Type R's are automotive journalist. Ya'll know something we don't, huh ?
Yes, become an automotive journalist or influencer is what they know
Yes! Finally, adaptive cruise control with a manual transmission! So many automakers only allow you to have that with an automatic transmission.
Still waiting on remote start with a manual ☠️
Seriously it would be so easy but not a single manufacturer has spent the 10 Horus of R&D it would take to develop it and it makes me mad
@@spencerlorrigan my c7 Z06 has remote start and it's manual
@@CPLAYZGAMEZ really!? Thank you Chevy!!
I remember when you said you were thinking of getting the type R during your Si videos! Congrats!
Such an awesome car, I love the design and how simple and functional it is, hope you have a lot of fun with it!
What other colours were offered? I know championship white is definitely the best out of all, but I’ve seen black civics at dealers on videos. And here in Canada at least on the website we get (Champ White, Red, Grey Pearl)
How do you not discuss the buying experience? What did you pay?
Yes you got one! Congrats!
Sick R! I would get the white as well if I had the choice!
Hey Topher, any reason you didn’t decide to get the manual GR Supra?
Because Toyota isn't giving deals to the YT reviewers..only Honda is :)
Wow you finally got one. Great!
I hope the SI or other models with manual gearboxes are available in decent numbers for those of us here in Europe who don't fancy fake gear changes on a CVT 😱
Smaller wheel diameter makes the biggest difference in road noise in my experience.
Heyyyy vw gang/euro gang/dual clutch gang gang member over here lol. Not really a Japanese auto lover but after watching this video I have to say this is truly a sweet machine. And I can totally feel you are going to have lots of fun in this thing. Soo no matter which gang we choose to be in, we all in the car gang lmfaoooo looking forward to your new content, drive safe and enjoy 👍
Absolutely amazing interior !!!
Excited for you - sweet car!!
Man said winter BRZ, what an inspiration 🤙🏼