Warning: The Audio in this video is HORRENDOUS at some points, and I won't have the time to redo this hour long video. I did not make sure to test my audio before starting recording, won't make that mistake again. If you can bare with the sound, I think the arguments are pretty solid.
1.Yh That's My One Critique...Some Of Your Vids Are Really Low Volme..I Can Barely Hear That Clown .. 2. I Was Waiting for This Reaction Vid lmao..AnimeUproar ..Foxen ...These People Read Manga And Watching Anime For A Living ..Yet They Cant Understand How Garbage This Ending Is..So Yall Really Believe That These Anime Only Normies Are Gunna Be Objective And Criticize This Garbage? How??They're Gunna See The Titan Shifters Of The Past And The Final Battle And Erens Confession About Loving Mikasa And Loose Their Shit .. They're Not Gunna Take into Account That None Of It Makes Sense ..
@@shavaughnhendrickson1866 nah they’ll def acknowledge the flaws but it’ll take 2 years and it’ll be waived off cuz they liked the ending, at least on Twitter
Imagine if Light from Death Note suddenly broke down crying in the end, right before killing L, and said, “No, I don’t want Misa to find another man! I only want her to think about me! I also don’t know why I killed all those criminals, I think it was to unite you all against me!” And this guy defends it with “Well Light is just a teenager, it’s okay if he inexplicably goes against his entire character and motives, that’s how they are.” These people defending 139 are ridiculous.
Point is you can’t justify characters suddenly forgetting all their motives and acting pathetic and whiny like Eren in 139 did because “well he’s just a teenager, that’s how they act.” Hell the characters in Last Airbender are 12-13 and were way more consistent and emotionally mature than Eren. Same with Light. Same with hundreds of other teen anime characters. Age has nothing to do with it. It’s just a cop out.
Yes because he has seen his future memories and knows he's going to go on a crazy genoicidal suicide mission that ends with Mikasa killing him. Ofc he's not gonna tell her, that would be unnecessary and cruel.
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Short-term sure, what he said to her wasn't nice, but manipulating her into disliking and killing him unlocks a better future for her long-term.
@@justusmuller9445 he didn't just say mean things to her he nearly got her and her friends killed , beat up her best friend right in her face, made her kill her own people when turned into pure titans , forced her to kill her own allies in the Yeargerests, forced her into another life threatening situation against the 9 titans and has to live with the trama of killing him to the point she mourns him her entire life and then her descendents are killed off later on how is that a better life long term?
Ik I hate when people’s only defense to their points are it’s just my opinion if you make a claim you should at least be able to explain why you feel that way
Apparently not, you should always just accept whatever the fuck author gives you without asking any questions like a sheep, otherwise that's disrespectful to the author!
@@rickchakraborty2087 It doesn't matter how he wrote the ending he would have got them anyways. However, this specific ending was so bad Isayama should be considered a criminal for killing his series. Death threats are something complained about by creators when it's convenient. They do something stupid or terrible, then cry about death threats to look like a victim
@@meawiyaothman7872 bruh Chibi's was the funniest dude was like "This ending was trash Isayama most have lost his mind. It was so bad I will never waste my time by even talking about the series anymore." Then proceeded to never make a video on AOT again lmao
@@pluoit2496 it will atleast be more resonarable if the goal weigh or outweigh the deaths he had committed like for example his goal is "to save my race, my friends, and my poeple but NOOO he apparently just wanted to save 4 of his friends like bruh your 4 friends does not weigh more than a billion people
@@pluoit2496 Probably not, simply because of the reasoning that either commited these atrocities for. One is for racial superiority( national superiority), the other was for survival, as the whole world's military was coming to kill Eren's people.
It’s more believable that Mikasa was having headaches because she was a slave to being an Ackerman and all that host bs than it is believable that Ymir had been peeking into her head that is supposedly immune to Titan powers etc which is the whole reason ackermans were persecuted. Put a retcon in plain sight and big UA-camr AoT boot lickers will still try and rationalize it
I'm positive Levi also had headache due to Erwin during the story, so if I remember correctly, was Ymir peeking into Levi's mind as well? I still don't understand how could Eren & Ymir mess with Ackermans despite the manga establishing them being immune to the Founder titan shenanigans, but those are questions only Ymir knows the answer of
" erens a teenager " eren at 9 killed 2 grown ass men convinced mikasa to kill the 3rd one and then went to bed that same night what manga do these people think there reading?
From someone who's been arguing with them probably since the leaks came out (yeah turns out I have a lot of free time), AnimeUproar barely scratchs the surface.
@@rickchakraborty2087 it’s just hard af to accept tbh 💀💀🤣✌🏽. Like people kinda have to defend it cuz then their favorite series gonna die out feel me ? 🤓 like FUUCK lol. It’s also perspective... some people maybe wanted that happy ass ending because they too kind hearted and felt like this world deserved a “happy” ending. It was meh tbh... I saw the new aotr chapter and it was cool.... Eren was the edge lord y’all wanted LMFAOO but yea. I’m actually on the middle now. I knew I didn’t like the original ending but it’s not something I immediately began trashing and there was literally nothing I can do LMFAOO. Eren really should have just killed and kept on going 💀 and everyone should have stayed dead.
How? He fought for the freedom of his people. Armin who allied with the Marleyans literally had no plan to stop the genocide of Paradisians which the rest of the world wanted. I honestly felt that this development was contrived and Isayama should have done some better world building instead.
Oh believe me Eren will live with all the guilt in the world but he doesn’t care at this point he’s seeen every possible path and at least on aotnr he recognizes fro true freedom that 100% of the world needs to be wiped out
I wish Ymir was left as what they initially framed her as: Someone who created titans because she had no sense of personal agency, even after she died. There was something compelling about Eren being the one to free her and be the first one to treat her like a human. Instead, she did this all because she wanted her back to be blown out by Fritz and only ended up proving Marleyan propaganda correct
YES, and the fact that neither Eren nor Ymir actually gave a shit about the freedom and future of Paradis drastically changes everything they've been fighting for. Like their intial reason that was so interesting was just meant to be misleading and "clickbaity", because hey, turns out true freedom is found in the friendships (and unhealthily obsessed "lovers") we made along the way.
In my opinion Ymir is definitively the worst character in the series, even more disappointing than the EMA trio. Why? Because she basically turned Eren and Mikasa into her playthings and got so many people killed for it. This fking girl deserves a worse fate than Eren, not just for the rumbling, but for the suffering of everyone throughout history at the hands of the titans just because she had a weird fetish for her abuser. I also blame Eren's breakdown as a character on her. Why tf is he suddenly so clueless and pathetic when he showed such determination before? I blame Ymir for mindfking Eren to the point that he can't even think straight anymore. She basically used him as a puppet and bastardized his life, feelings, and dreams. I absolutely hate this woman. The worst part is she got what she wanted and then poofed and left all the Eldians to die in the future. What a clown. Human life means nothing to her compared to her stockholm syndrome.
She was far more sympathetic of a character before but then the story turned her into a sadistic and manipulative weirdo with nonsensical motivations and ridiculously infinite power which she uses to drag all of the characters down to hell with her.
When will people realize that only justifying and making sense of a story doesn't automatically make it a good story, there is more to it. Payoff, conclusion, motivation, character depth, depth of the conflict, the way characters react and solve the conflict, progression of the plot, character development, there are so many things to make it a good story. "He's a teenager" or "He's just a human" doesn't justify Eren's action in 139 at all. The mental gymnastics is insane.
I think the main problem is the misconception that "filling in blanks"/ not giving all the answers is a sign of being "deep". There's a fine line between leaving subtext and open ended questions for the reader to figure out the hidden true meaning, and leaving plot holes for readers to fill in for themselves. Many people, (including myself sometimes) don't see or don't care enough to see the difference. Labelling anything that "makes you think" as well written.
@@LeCatization Everyone sees things differently. That's why there are entire classes dedicated to the tearing apart and analysis of works of fiction. Doctorates are achieved writing papers doing exactly this. The people shaking and crying about this ending speak as though they are objective truth, and they're not. They're children who lack emotional intelligence and the inability to comprehend anything outside of, "But *I* wanted *this* and *I* didn't get *this* so fuck *you*."
@@nachgeben By that definition objectivity doesn't exist when judging fiction. While that is true to some degree, there are commonly agreed measures to rate stories on the quality of the narrative. The ending is a mess in it's delivery, Eren's motivations, objectives and powers shouldn't be as vague and inconsistent as they were made out to be, especially since his abilities so heavily influence how his plan is executed. If you think that this ambiguity was to aid the narrative, what exactly was the message Isayama tried to convey by making us unable to definitively know these things? Even the people who liked the ending can't come to a consensus on what exactly Eren's goal and limit of his abilities were. I don't think this speculation aids the narrative in any way like other ambiguous works, so please enlighten me if it does. The people who support the ending also aren't any better when it comes comprehension. Most supporters I've seen either don't care about the actual plot, or would accept anything with the logic that "it's realistic" or "it can't please everyone" to dismiss valid criticisms. I was expecting a story about conflict and the human condition, but the ending gave me a forced message about "romantic" love, re-contextualizing everything to make Mikasa the focus. I guess I'm just another child with unreasonable expectations, I should have known better that SnK was first and foremost the romance story of Eren and Mikasa since that's what the ending is forcing down our throats.
Why is it stupid? Y'all want people who like it to write dissertations on why they do, so it's your turn. I'll expect your essay after class on next Friday.
@@nachgebenliterally the entire ending speaks for itself with how terribly written it is. If you can’t see that, that’s just genuinely your own fault and shows how unbelievably gullible you are.
I cringed when he rated the ending better after the extra pages and he said mikasa moved on..... Yet still bringing roses to eren alot before she died. Then tried being deep about being forgotten? Like who is gonna forget eren after the rumbling. The man just wanna please his fans and is reaching. Use to watch his content but not anymore its so slow paced and he stretches things out and won't get to the damn points.
Yeah man it's always cringe when they say she moved on, her obsession is unhealthy there is nothing good in her character, ereh is her entire character
@Chipo Bh Nah she still has is on (you don't even need to zoom in) pbs.twimg.com/media/E1rYxRLUYAANwSX?format=jpg&name=medium Why should the scarf be relevant? Why was the scarf even kept for so long😂? Idk what moving on she really did😂.
Here's some of the most common defenses I heard so far: -"It humanizes Eren" -"There's no real freedom. That's the point of the story" (I know, wtf too) -"Cycle of war is endless" -"Human conflict will always exist" -"You just didn't understand the ending." (a classic) -"You just didn't like the ending." (another classic) -"You're an erehisu shipper." (No longer used as much but toxic shippers easily get triggered at the word "erehisu", mention it once and they'll lose their minds. It's kinda fun to see too lol) -"Eren became free of himself" (???) -"Eren is the most tragic character why can't you understand that" -"It's Isayama's story, it's his ending" -"Eren's a depressed 19 year old." (Yes, a depressed 19 year old who didn't cry for the billions he killed but cried because he wants his adopted sister to love no one else but him) -"It's like (insert historical comparison)" -"You're just mad your theories didn't come true." -"You're just mad your headcanon didn't come true." -"It's rEaLIsTiC." (how "realistic" an ending is does not dictate that it's a good ending) -(feel free to add) After arguing with them for days, it just kinda blurs altogether. There's the rare reasonable person who likes the ending and actually has some good points but more often than not, the majority I've met more or less just liked whatever crap they were given as long as it came from Isayama. (I've said this once, I'll say it again anyway) So much so that sometimes it feels like that a lot of the 139 defenders tried to rewrite the entire series to fit the ending (maybe that's why AnR Eren is so foreign to them lmao). And now with this interview, they thought 139 haters would feel embarassed for being "wrong" about the "real Eren", but nope, it just pissed them off even more and more or less lost their respect in Isayama as a writer. Because apparently, Isayama just failed in his execution of the "whiny Eren" he always imagined and accidentally made him anything but that. Idk.
@@bored_potato perfectly put, at the end of the day art is subjective and we all have our opinions. Unfortunately some parts of this fandom is pathetic and non critical when it comes to their lord and savior Isayama.These defenders get too confident with their coped up headcannon and feel the need to mindlessly defend their belief with a slew of pseudo-intellectualism. All these people have to do is enjoy the ending in silence and shut up, these idiots really think they have some higher understanding of a straight forward ass story lmao
@@Capo_4L Yeah, I actually have no problem with those who actually have valid criticism, but to some people who are just biased and don't like anyone's opinions but theirs, they tick me off. If they really liked and were satisfied with it, they won't aggressively argue with people on the internet with a some sort of worship to the "Infallible Isayama". Heck, I've liked movies most people on the internet don't, but that doesn't mean I'll start a fight with anyone who dislikes it and call people idiots for no reason. Most of them dont even get the idea of "agree to disagree" and one even said, "No, I will not respect their opinion because I think it's wrong" like dude, why the hell are you even "debating" with people in the comment section?
@@bored_potato they treat Isayama like the second coming of Jesus, say literally ANYTHING against him and try to critisise him once, and you will have a bunch of bootlickers backlashing you.
Tbh, that is completely out of his control, idk if you got spoiled because you're subbed to him or because it got recommended to you but in the end he's just doing what every youtuber does, making videos, am i saying that you're wrong for being pissed about it, no you definitely have a right to be pissed about it, but neither is he in the wrong for making content that he wants to do, it just can't be helped Btw, i know your comment is allready old so my comment may be completely irrelevant to you but i still wanted to tell you this anyways, just in case you're still not over it
I just hope when the anime comes out, it'll be just like Game of Thrones where everybody unanimously hates it. For example the panel where Eren cries over Mikasa moving on, could you imagine how much worse that'll be animated with voice acting? Personally I look forward to seeing that shitshow, for the memes of course.
@@cardfearray7337 saying that people are too picky or nitpicking isn’t an argument if you wanna have a discussion on why you think the ending was good I’d be happy to so that maybe we can understand the other sides views better but don’t just invalidate criticism because you don’t like it
@@cardfearray7337 I’m an anime only too and I’ve watched a lot of reviews. It’s looking like eren’s character got clapped and the ending is a solid 3/10🥲
its not that hes an adult or teen the way he reacted is simply character degradation to his previous self. eren may broke down but not whine. unless he experienced a death similar to berturtle which he didnt. eren is a 🤡
@@marshalsoult3860 yeah I mean I dont expect a chad who killed his mother for tHe GrEaTEr GoOd would breakdown for a chick he didn't like for more than half of pre-timeskip
@@krabbykat9918 first if all stop with this nonsense use of chad or simp or whatever. the problem i had with this is he nevee had any scene to justify why he acted that way. mikasa and eren didn’t even talked for long periods of time. 😑😑😑
they number in 400 million while paradis is only 1 mil and decades behind in technology. only a moron would ever think paradis had a chance without the rumbling power. so that includes isayama and anyone who defends this stupid story.
then people would say that paradis had a civil war then you wonder wtf they'd have a civil war and then they say it's because the "cycle of war never ends humans are greedy" bs they always throw, for the love of everything good, GIVE ME SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC
@@kormak8280 Sigh. 1. Paradis caught up in technology and even shocked people with the fact that they had airships, and the unique 3D maneuvering/ODM gear. 2. All the other countries may have more people, but that doesn't speak for any key resources that they would need to launch a war. If you have 100 people in a room, and 1 of them has a machine gun, 99 of them might try shit, but they're going to lose. 3. The Rumbling started at shores at various countries. That means vital harbors in a 1940s-tech world were destroyed. Harbors can be both civilian and military. Vital military installations are set close to shores often for access to the oceans. Without these vital installations, 400 million people aren't doing shit to 1 million people who are running at full capacity. It takes just a modicum of real world understanding. Go outside and touch some grass, weeb.
@@nachgeben calling me weeb when you fanboying over this shit ending and trying to defend it's bs lol. paradis lost and the ending was stupid. paradis was also decimated by the rumbling since they have walls within walls within walls. so did the colossal titans tiptoe carefully around all the people and buildings... also forgot about the civil war and the fact that there was a literal coup that killed off many high ranking military officials. yeah of course you didn't mention that. just slipped your mind didn't it redditor? they are not running at full capacity either fool. paradis is heavily outnumbered and your analogy is biased and stupid like you. some shithole tiny island with 1 million people having a civil war have no chance against 20% of the world who have a common enemy. anyone who thinks that, like you, is a moron. even the ending showed that they were fucked, despite being stupid about it.
So, basically, it opened your eyes as to which ones spew the same shit out of their mouth that you do and don't wish to be challenged in any way. Got it.
@@nachgeben i see you everywhere in this comment section. What exactly is the issue with adressing the issues with it? I understand that it's phrased harshly sometimes, but explain.
ending doesnt make whole story bad lol.ending doesnt make sense it means it was reconned last moment,you can hate it but the story is masterpiece of media with amaizing plot character . you are too much focusing on ending bro and want to deny the journey you experieced and got from the story! i hate ending so much but it doesnt make storybad
I recently started working on an AOT fanfiction, and your videos were a major help in helping me figure out what I should and shouldn't do when writing it. So thank you, and I wish you the best of luck with your manga.
Marley: Are you titan or human? Armin: If we can turn to titans, we will transform right now and kill you but we didnt so we are not titans! Marley: Aight then, we goin home. Bye
This is how I would've personally written Armin's argument; Armin: You know, we didn't have to come and save you guys. As a matter of fact, we would've benefitted from just letting Eren wipe you guys out completely. We CHOSE to put ourselves at risk to stop Eren and save you guys because we believe your people have just as much of a right to live in this world as we do even though all you've ever done is try to wipe us out. Even now, we're willing to put ourselves at your mercy in the hopes we can stop all this senseless bloodshed but the choice ultimately lies with you. We can either work together to put all this hatred behind us so that our children can be saved from the vicious cycle we've been trapped in for so long or we can continue to kill each other like animals. What's it going to be? That's just how I would've written it.
I mainly apart of the anime japanese fanbase. Majority of the fanbase hates chapter 139 alot and pointed out the contradictive flaws of the climax. - Eren bullshit romance with Mikasa, that was never foreshadowed in the japanese version of the story. - How the rumbling contradicts Eren previous motivations, since his genocide of 80% of the world was unnecessary. Eren Yeager cared about his country and people he fights. 139 made him a unsympathetic psychopath that doesn't have the decency for human life.
When the final chapter came out Japanese fans literally called out Isayama bullshit. - Assassinating Eren and Armin character development. - Killing off Zeke who embodied freedom itself, majority of the fanbase agreed that Zeke death was poorly handle, Eren embodying his philosophy downplays his efforts as villain. Majority of the fanbase lost all respect to Isayama writing, no matter how deep and philosophical it was on ethical spectrum. It broke many of those established. Even before chapter 139 came out, Eren in the time skip already accepted responsibility of every generational problem his father and brother did, while not being like them. I hate the climax of Attack on Titan.
@@saintitchief the japanese majority hate and made tones of threads, removing there bias from the ships and Isayama story. To point out the nonsensical stuff that doesn't make any sense 😭
There are stories that use better the concept of beings that exists in the past, present and future at the same time, I am just done listening to a podcast that uses the exact concept in a better way, and you can feel and believe these beings perceive time differently than us. Eren never gave any indication that he perceived time in such way other than a throwaway line in 139. The podcast is called Alice isn't Dead, if anyone is interested. It even has an ending that is similar to AoT's ending in concept, but much better executed.
Thank you for the new recommendation. I'l add it to stuff-to-read-or-watch-after-aot-traumatized-me-into-no-longer-loving-a-series-that-doesn't-have-an-ending-yet
You have to understand that Eren is such a failed Erekose from the "eternal warrior" Michael Moorcock's story, on which Isayama relied heavily. He could not give a conclusive ending, as in this book, because he had a contract for shonen, which cannot be only for adults. Isayama just used the best of Erekose themes to cast the bait and get the public, then end up sloppy for money.
People are stupid with the shounen argument. They say „it’s a shounen what did you expect?“ well then don’t build up 123 chapters for a different direction you dumbass. And also isayama is a hack and asshole for disrespecting Michael murcock. He never mentioned the eternal champion as influence
AoT should never have been a shounen, how tf is this show for anyone else other than adults? AoT is not a kid's show because of all the mature themes and stuff.
Ikr the only romance that actual plot development and key character arcs would’ve been historia and Eren cuz I’m assuming historians kid would also be erens which would motivate him to free the world from as much hatred as possible and also still keep historia in character as a person who didn’t just get knocked up by an npc but a queen who fought for her people and stood by her lover and was the only one who could understand him
Levi told Mikasa that her headaches is caused by Ackerbonds because he have the same headaches. It is revealed that Ackerman bonds doesn't exist in chapter 131 and Mikasa loves Eren. Now, we know that Ymir is trying to peep into her mind which is why she have headaches. I have two questions: Why Levi have headache if the Ackerman bond doesn't exist and Why can Founding Titan affect the mind of an Ackerman? We are told that Ackerman are impervious to mind wiping and mind alterations.
@@justusmuller9445 1. He asked Mikasa if she had headaches, how did he know if he didn't have those headaches? Do you not know what things called implied meaning? 2. Eren literally controlled her memories twice (the wood cabin) and the end. And it was implied he even wiped Levi's memory too. Consider Ackerman's memories could not be controlled by Founding Titan. This is a very serious plot hole. Don't cope with it.
srsly WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS DUDE. I lost it when he said that the message of aot was that war is inevitable. Fuck no, that's not the message, the message was said by Eren in 130: his primary goal was to end the cycle of hatred towards eldians. So if you live in an unfair situation just bc of your ethnicity than you should do something about it, that´s the message. Try to change the world around you to make it a better place for you and your people.
also to stop the generational hatred, by not burdening the future generations with their ancestor's sins. this theme had been brought up over and over even when they reached fort salva, by having the marleyan general stated that everything happened because of the adults. that they are putting their selfish desire towards the children. magath even regretted it before he died. kaya even screamed about what is her mother's fault? bcs she is born in this era while gabi kept ranting about the ancestor's sin. this was also brought up by floch, that all the jaegerist did is for their parents, wife, and even more their children and grandchildren. this was also tom ksaver and zeke's reasoning for euthanazation plan, to not burden future generations for their ancestor sin. but. eren and the alliance, did just that. and what? paradis got destroyed. the alliance may have live long but what abt their descendants? what the fck with message. even worst that the guidebook is trying to make eren as a selfless martyr. made you wonder about isayama and the editor's ideology. not only made armin and the others thanking eren and sees eren like a hero, but also potraying eren as a tragic hero, a martyr, that is really say a lot of their ideology. to have people defend this and called the ending as beautiful is just- i have no words. no wonder why chinese fans are angry, especially if you remember how Japanese army was back in World War II lol.
I think people don’t understand that Eren was In the paths for a long time so although his biological age is like 19 his mental age is somewhere between 25-35
Even without that eren was easily able to come to terms with the fact that the people of Marley are just humans and not evil monsters just the people of paridis yet was still able to killing every last one of them without a second thought People want to give me this " he's 19" bullshit when this was the same guy who body slammed a stage full of people and was slamming his fists on them after they were well dead , these people have to ignore shit that happened in previous arcs to come up with these bullshit arguments
eren was a monster who murdered millions of innocent people but the reason why i still shipped EH but not EM (apart from the fact that EM was designed to be platonic/familial love) was that eren basically picked historia over the rest of the world meanwhile he was a complete jerk to mikasa throughout the series. eren could have saved paradis and have his freedom with the 50y plan too but he refused to sacrifice historia. it's confirmed over and over again even in 138. we'll never know why historia was so important to him (probably because AnR was the original ending) but the fact remains that EH is a better ship because eren actually showed concern and respect for historia and he was even shown smiling at her a couple of times, meanwhile the nicest thing he did to mikasa was saving her from her kidnappers. but even that scene is portrayed as traumatic to mikasa with isayama describing it as mikasa losing her innocence even though all she wants is a quiet life where she and her family are safe. yams said that mikasa wants to go back to the girl she was and the life she had before that incident.
Nah the headaches were retconned as well. Eren stated that ackermans get headaches when they try to oppose their host when their true self fights against the bond to the master. Why else would Eren know that out of nowhere? And since he mentioned that ackermans in general get headaches like this, is that supposed to mean that Ymir was trying to contact every single ackerman who gets headaches? thats still a plothole and retcon, saint. it hasnt been filled at all. isayama randomly made it so that ymir was causing the headaches just so that he could further make mikasa the MC in this ending
It's not a retcon lol, Eren was deliberately lying, that was made clear in a later chapter. Recontextualization doesn't mean retcon. Kenny and Levi were never shown to have headaches and they're also not dependant on the 'Ackerman bond'
@@justusmuller9445 With what new added information from Zeke's side? Cause none of it was proven and is just retcon gymnastics. How did Ymir get in touch with Mikasa when she is a Ackerman and is supposed to be immune to that memory probing stuff to begin with. That's why the Ackermans are spread thin as they are. Now you are telling me that never was the case? Talk about contradicting your story. What are the Ackermans exactly? Oh just OP people to save the main cast from any dire situation in the plot. Literal walking plot armor.
Nothing on Earth can convince me that Eren had any sort of romantic feelings for Mikasa. People claim that Eren sent Mikasa that paths dream, but that hasn't ever even been confirmed, and also makes zero sense considering Mikasa is an Ackerman. It's pure headcanon. The problem with a these "breakdown" videos regarding the ending and Eren/Mikasa is that more than half of these videos pass headcanons/inferences as pure canon fact. It's so disingenuine.
The EDs like to excuse Eren's actions in the last 17 chapters because he's just a 19-year-old boy and at the same time blame gabi, a 12-year-old for THREE murders of the islanders Brilliant
I mean, He can say that he still likes aot despite the bad ending and that's totally fine, but defending this ending is an insult to the people who paid attention to it
@@chocolatephantasms I agree, I didn't like the video because he came up with nonsensical excuses to defend the awful writing of the the final chapter (including the extra 8 pages)
Man I just wanna thank you for being the voice of the Anti-139 community, you’re doing Gods work by fighting against the zombies. And weren’t the Eldian ambassadors just completely useless? They pretty much were told to “f off and prep for future annihilation” idk why defenders keeping bringing them up like they did anything.
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Eren was proven right every step of the way. Even the peace conference they went under incognito was just straight up "Mainland Eldians alright, Paradis Eldians bad." and then Tyburs happened in Liberio, fuck even the Azumabito's who came under the guise of cooperation was there just to exploit Paradis for their resources.
33:48 I don't think you are entirely correct here. Yes, they were hated for their past, but every nation has its "not so good" part of History, but eventually get forgiven. The thing that separates eldians from the rest of the world is the fact that they can turn into Titans. Every single one can be used as a weapon. In theory, will of a one single person can unleash millions of titles and enslave the rest of the world just like hundreds of years ago. If you think about it, there is much more reason towards being afraid of eldians than just their past.
thats true but the eldians that were in marleyan captivity were not ever going to be capable of doing that and were still hated. even the shifters who won their wars were still hated. even zeke.
Anime Uproar is a channel run by brothers. Animak, the guy who’s speaking in the video, recently did a Aot watch/read through on a podcast with other anime youtubers. His brother is the one who did all the Aot videos.
I like how everyone's suddenly fine with psychological analysis when it's not saying that a normal 12 year old girl doesn't fall victim to a terrorist attack, witness two of her friends die, shoot a person in the chest and then fly abruptly to another country and stay relatively fine
I'd just like to make a point here: There's this really obscure OVA from the 80's called MD Geist. It's a story about a genetically engineered super-soldier called Geist -- the guy is a complete and utter sociopath and isn't even remotely better than the main villain. For reference, just picture Doomguy if he was a complete asshole who directed his murderous rage towards humans instead of demons. Right, so near the end after having killed the villain, Geist decides to unleash a robotic army upon the world which results in the near-complete annihilation of mankind. Why? Because this way he can keep fighting enemies for a long while. Basically, he obliterates humanity just to be an asshole. *HE OBLITERATES HUMANITY. JUST TO BE AN ASSHOLE.* Just to drive the point home, the story ends with a shot of Geist sporting a psychotic grin on his face, as if he can't wait to get started. Right, you get all that? Now here's the thing: apart from being relentlessly grim and nihilistic, the story itself is laughably poorly written with terrible voice acting, cheesy dialogue and abysmal animation...yet the story still makes more sense than what Isayama came up with -- and the reason for that is because of consistency. Considering everything Geist did up to the end, having him destroy humanity for such a petty reason was not at all out-of-character for him -- the man's a mass-murdering sociopath for goodness' sake, slaughtering people left and right with a big goofy grin on his face and he's so obsessed with killing that he outright ignores the advanced of his "love interest" -- a better word would be "harpy" but I digress. My point is that an intentionally depressing ending is easier to accept if it feels like a logical conclusion to the story's course. Fans were fully prepared to accept Eren destroying humanity because we understood he had no other option left and everything in the story was leading up to such an event...yet Isayama chose not to have his story reach a logical conclusion even though he had major characters killed off for minor reasons, as if to drive the point home how nihilistic the whole thing is. He decided to cop out and deliver an esoteric happy ending that feels completely unearned and ironically renders all the deaths and struggles pointless...and people are making excuses for it, as if the story was meant to end the way it did. It's like watching a man run a perfectly fine marathon only for him to go "fuck it" and intentionally stumble and fall 100 meters before the finish line...and then have people say he was meant to do that. Bollocks.
The comparison to the Geist OVA is interesting but I don't really get your point regarding how it's having a better conclusion than AoT. Eren too wants to destroy the world cause he's an asshole and it's in-character for him to do the rumbling. There were foreshadowings that hinted that the rumbling would happen, yes, and it was shown that deep down Eren wants to complete the rumbling (destroy all his enemies),yes, BUT there were no indications that he would be successful and actually destroy the whole world (quite the opposite, because there were indications that he would be stopped). It was not a cop out by Isayama.
What I was trying to say is that a depressing ending that's thematically appropriate and logically conclusive is much easier to accept than an artificially happy one. Take Game of Thrones for instance -- after season 8 ended, many fans agreed that even having everyone die at the hands of the Night King would've been better, if only because it would've saved them all from terrible writing. If that's not enough, then let me put it like this: The video game Nier is one of the saddest and most depressing games in existence and it pretty much ends with humanity going extinct. The thing is, the game is not nihilistic because its protagonist are flawed but sympathetic and even the enemies have sympathetic motives. Another thing is that all the drama and conflict in it is the result of tragic misunderstandings rather than nihilistic spite, which makes the ending even sadder because of this. And just to be super nihilistic, the video game Armored Core: For Answer takes place on Earth that has been ravaged and turned into an uninhabitable wasteland by a bunch of corporations waging war on one another. To spare you the details, you're given the option to either protect the corporations and maintain the status quo -- the same one that caused this mess in the first place -- or commit mass murder to force the rest of humanity to leave the planet...or go on a genocida killing spree and put everyone out of their misery. It really says something about the state of the world when the latter option feels like the most rational course of action you can take, if only because it offers a permanent solution to humanity's plight. By contrast, AoT has always been extremely grim and even nihilistic at times...and its world has proven to be such an awful place that Eren's decision to kill off the rest of humanity actually comes off as a perfectly rational response to everything he's been forced to put up with. The world will never make peace with Paradis; Eren knows this and we know that too. The story never portrayed his actions as being morally right but rather tried to make a statement on how terrible the world must be that we could fully understand Eren's decision to put a permanent stop to this cycle of hatred by killing everyone. The ending tries to make it seem as though peace has finally become possible when in reality, nothing's changed; 80% of humanity is dead and the rest of them still hate Paradis, now more than ever. Reiner and Annie never paid for their crimes and the story pretends like everything is hunky dory now that Eren has practically destroyed most of humanity and its infrastructure. Over at TV Tropes we'd call this an Esoteric Happy Ending -- an ending only the autor considers to be happy, in spite of all the implications to the contrary.
@@supereldinho Okay I think what you're getting at here is that you think that a full rumbling ending would've fit the tone of the story overall better. I don't necessarily agree but it's hard to argue against because it's a somewhat subjective matter. I do think that kind of ending could work if it was built towards, but I don't think the last 2-3 arcs were headed that direction. There was too much emphasis on "both sides" and "the world isn't black and white". The animosity between the two parties was caused by ignorance and not actually knowing the other side. Marleyans that visited Paradis and lived there(Reiner, Gabi, Niccolo, Magath) largely emphasized with the people on the island, the survey corps members who visited Marley were immediately against Eren destroying the outside world. The rise of yeagerists showed that the people of Paradis are no better than the outside world, they're totally okay with killing people they don't know if it guarantees their survival and oppressing non-eldians in their homeland. I'd find it weird if they were just rewarded in the end without consequences. Edit: I still agree that the tone of the last chapter feels a bit off.
I like anime uproar but saying the reason eren was crying over mikasa was because he was 19 and was human, Yet eren clearly has the mental strength to handle the fact that he destroyed 8/10 of the population. I know that eren was crying once in a story about doing this and I know eren cared about his friends but the weight of having millions upon millions of people dead because of you is something that no man can handle and yes he may care about mikasa but there was no romantic tension between the two. The kiss was so random, for me atleast, Isayama didn’t really make it that known. Just because they are opposite genders doesn’t mean they have to be a couple. I can understand mikasa loving eren but eren never really showed interest. Armin just didn’t feel like a leader. I don’t care about chad eren, that’s not why his character is good. Eren just proved marley’s point in saying they are devils. He didn’t resolve shit
Ok just a few things: "Yet eren clearly has the mental strength to handle the fact that he destroyed 8/10 of the population." I think the manga showed it well with the infamous freedom-panel that Eren has to regress into a childlike-state of mind to cope with what he's doing. He's crushed by his guilt and admits he deserves to die for his actions when he thinks clearly about it. "there was no romantic tension between the two." True there wasn't a lot of tension shown but it's because Eren knows his fate through future memories so starting some kind of relationship with Mikasa when he knows she has to kill him soon would be very cruel. His romantic interest was hinted at through flashbacks and memories/memory-shards but he can't act on it. That's the tragedy of the situation. "Armin just didn’t feel like a leader." The whole point was for him to overcome his insecurities and become a leader-figure using his talents but I do agree that his character could've been handled better. "Eren just proved marley’s point in saying they are devils." Yeah that's the point and the irony of the situation. The chapter where he starts the rumbling is literally called "island devils" "He didn’t resolve shit" He got to live out his childish destructive desires in doing the rumbling, he ensured long lives for his friends and got rid off the titan curse which was a major source of conflict. He didn't achieve eternal peace or whatever but I don't think he cared much for it in the first place. It's unrealistic too.
@@justusmuller9445 Not to mention it's not in his characterization to care about eternal peace. He was a feral idiot from childhood. Zeke even expressed amazement on how he thought Eren was brainwashed into how he is, only to discover that no, Eren was literally just born a maniac. He expressed his friends/loved ones are the most important people to him, and he let go of his personal anger towards people like Reiner because he understood they were doing what they thought was right, just as he was. He would let the world burn for them, and is why when he could stop them from stopping him, he didn't. He never took away free will, even if his own was debatably not present. There's a moment that's emphasized when Eren snaps. It's when he's sitting there, waiting and viewing a parliamentary meeting, so they can talk to a group fighting for the rights of Subjects of Ymir. Here, a representative of this group declares they're "Victims of Eldians, just like all of us--but not those Island Devils, no sir!" You can see Eren never wanted to do what he did, but he realized that the visions he saw were indeed the only way to keep his loved ones safe. Not just from the world, but the titan curse. Unfortunately, the whole 'to fight monsters you need to become a monster' schtick is valid here and is seen many times in fiction and reality. You might achieve your goals, but you'll lose yourself along the way, and as your mind slips deeper into being a monster, you may forget why you did this, or why you did that. All you'll know is if you've gotten closer to or farther from your goal. I don't see anything in Eren's progression as OOC or as not achieving anything. We just don't all agree with how much he truly achieved, and if there was a better way or not. And that's always been the point, hasn't it? Was there a better way to anything? What if Bertholdt, Annie and Reiner had gone home after Marcel? What if they had spoken to Marco instead of what they did to him? What if Grisha had never taken his sister outside Liberio? What if, what if, who was actually in the right? Who was actually in the wrong? Was there a better way, etc? And really, in the world as it was pre-Rumbling, WAS there a better way?
Please make a counter video exactly like this after watching Jake Retake's video, the dude used to be an anime only until he decided to read the manga after S4 part 1 ended. He used to be a great thinker and I used to enjoy his reactions to AoT episodes. But now for some reason in his manga review video he made he's been too soft and is just ignoring all the flaws and doesn't even bother to look critically in certain scenes, instead all he does is keep saying "I don't see any problem with the ending, I think it's fine". I have no hopes for the anime onlies, I'm pretty sure they will dig this ending because they are all hyped and biased af.
It;s a damn shame that popular UA-camrs rather be the former and defend trash manga endings so they dont wanna get attacked by his subs who liked it. A damn shame.....
Anime Uproar and Foxen Anime are awful right now. Anime uproar is literally speculating throughout this entire video and clearly in denial while Foxen is clearly an agent for AoT. I've lost a ton of respect for both of them!
These people are approaching the ending with the wrong mindset. Everyone should be thinking about the story critically and how it all ties together, not "It's written down so it must make sense".
They're not simps, they have different opinions than you. Especially foxen, he respectfully disagrees with the haters in a natural way. You are just coping too hard
Lol anime uproar saying that a natural disaster killing every eldian is stupid. First because Eren causes the biggest disaster in human history when rumbling 80% of the world, killing plants, animals and humans.
I watched the first 10 minutes of his video and I stopped because of exactly what you said he explained he didn’t know why his points made sense but still made those points😂
Not the he's just a teenager argument again FFS ... how old was he when he brutally murdered mikasa's kidnappers? 8 maybe?? he also said in path he was always like that meaning he was always ready to hurt those who tried to take his freedom away.
Ohh you should have better managed the audio between yourself and animeuproars...its a drag, listening to you normally and then not hearing anything when animeuproar talks
Where did he get the “collective conscious” of the founder power? I know the the paths connect every Eldian and past present and future but that’s not how the paths works. There is no clear rules. That’s the point that it’s bad So what is the collective conscious of the founder? This is not Jungian Psychology. Where did he get that? Again is he a human and a collective conscious? I thought in your first point he melded with it. Also. Freedom. If we analyze Eren’s freedom through the lens of philosophy. Existentialism. There are 2 kinds of freedom, essential freedom which is freedom to enact choices and existential freedom, which is “freedom of being” Both of this freedom is what Eren is fighting for: Essential freedom- freedom outside the walls, being able to live his life and explore, and free from people getting other people’s freedom and Existential freedom- which is Eren’s “I was born into this world”. That is why destiny and fate doesn’t apply in the story. It was not even introduced until the last minute. The story is not even about living your destiny but living out your freedom (choice and existence). Also the immature aspect? This is attack on titan. This is a dark fantasy, psychological show not a rom com. The immature aspects fit in rom com because rom com makes it funny not justify the character of a person who murdered 80% of the world. Rushed dialogue? It’s more like Mikasa needs to be shoehorned or else she loses her imporantace this arc. I’ll edit my points while watching the video
The argument I hate the most is that Eren is just an emotional 19 year old kid. People forget about how he murdered 2 men when he was 8. People forget how he joined the military at a young age. People forget how he holds this god like power in a world where only a selected few have it. People forget how he can literally change the past in the right circumstances. People forget he killed 80% of the world. How is Eren your typical emotional 19 year old who breaks down because his “crush” will live a life without him, when he himself chose to not even continue living.
Exactly these arguments basically pretend previous arcs didn't happen that completely contradicts this claim people are looking for every excuse in the book
Being extremely violent and being emotional aren't mutually exclusive, quite the opposite actually. Eren is very emotional throughout the whole story, for various reasons. A lot of the time Eren commits acts of violence precisely because he is emotional. In my opinion the entire point of Eren's character is to showcase how dangerous it is to burden an evidently very childish and emotional person with power and high expectations. He didn't really choose not to continue living, the curse of Ymir would've got him in 3 or so years anyway. His choice was to spend his last remaining years securing a better future for his loved ones instead of living them out spending time with them. He would've been seperated from Mikasa and everyone else soon enough either way.
@@justusmuller9445 yes but here's the thing you people keep forgetting it's not that eren is being emotional it's the context to why he's being emotional he's not crying because he'll die filled with regrets or because of all the innocent people he's killed but because Mikasa will not be with him that's retarded and undermines the horrible actions he's committed it's terrible writing . He kinda did he gave up and allowed mikasa and the scouts to kill him Armin literally offered him a second chance at life and he rejected it , his desire to secure a happy life with his friends is redundant when he almost got those same freinds killed numerous times and damned there descendents to obliteration .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Well that's kinda a different argument than the one I was responding too and I partially agree; in chapter 139 both Eren and Armin are way too light on Eren having killed 80% of humanity, they are both just like "yeah nothing we can do about that now". Ideally there should have been another emotional breakdown focusing on Eren's genoicide. I still believe that him being regretful about not being able to spend time with Mikasa and his other friends makes sense as that's part of his character and has been foreshadowed eg. in ch130. Yes, it undermines his horrible crimes, but Eren is not a person with strong self-reflection, he's a selfish piece of shit. Armin offering Eren a second chance at life doesn't magically remove the 13-year curse of Ymir. Letting the allience kill him to end the curse is best course of action as it directly increases the lifespan of Armin, Reiner, Annie, Falco (and Historia and her children probably as well) by a great amount. He foresaw in his future memories that his friends would survive most of it so he was willing to take the risk.
I wouldn't call killing two people that murdered a little girls parents in front of her and wanted to rape the body in front of the kid murder. It's killing in defense of others.
He is the same guy who loved code geass ending but said that this ending is good because peace wont last. I agree, but guess what, peace lasted in Code Geass. So that automatically means Code Geass ending is bad. So contradictory right there.
This is a dumb ass argument. If these endings were identical, one would still be bad, because all the events leading up to the identical reveal would make it so. But this does prove to me that you all lack the critical intelligence needed to debate anything, at least.
The end can not be 'killing the world and then everyone lives happily ever after', this kind of ending is impossible to be published as a phenomenal manga. IMO Isayama seems to have given up discussing the rationality of the rumbling and twisted the core of the story into a romance, probably he found he can't neither justify nor deny the rumbling reliably. Pooping on Eren's face is the easiest way to end this topic. Eren has the reasons not to launch genocide if Isayama didn't want to. We saw Marley was also oppressing many others nations, which could be the allies of Paradis. But that needs tons of political scenarios to make sense, which probably beyond Isayama's ability. Meanwhile, the 'eternal ethnic hatred' and the existence of the Tybus family are clearly contradictory; in other words, this narrative can be dissolved. But building a new narrative after breaking the topic of 'Paradis vs world' is also complicated. Most importantly, Eren is not a character without empathy, we saw that many times. In the short, Isayama gives the foundations for a peaceful ending(not talk no jutsu) but quits and shits.
Exactly he choose to have eren to do the rumbling he choose to go this route if he didn't want to deal with this shit then he shouldn't have written it down in the first place if he wasn't a lazy fuck and go " the entire world is just Marley " which is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard and actually do some world building he wouldn't have to deal with this eren commits genocide nonsense he wrote himself into a corner, were it was ether erem commits genocide or he doesn't so he ends up with this half assed middle ground thats just stupid
@@thatoneblackdude3333 I can even accept shifting the conflict to the worm as deus ex machina but save the characters' development. If isayama did it and admit he can't figure out how to make peace in a realistic way, that would be fine for me. The problem is he probably realized that he fcked up yet keeps screwing 139. At its simplest, if isayama didn't want to ruin those peaks from earlier and create plot holes, then he shouldn't have written the plot like Eren kills his own mom (this bastard says his favorite chapter is BYSTANDER ) or push Armin to a hypocrite. That's not an honest story.
@@SQS-kt5uy if Ishyama didn't want to deal with this he should have not made the entire world racist and made ymir the final boss instead of eren consider all the bullshit eldians have gone through because of her " love" she might as well have at least then she'd have a role to play in the story instead of being a plot device.
@@SQS-kt5uy he kept play around with all these complex themes only for none of it to actually matter in the end lesson learned don't bite off more then you can chew
it's important to have a good principles and clear logical way of thinking than having thousands of subscribers, stories should be simple and clear not complex and vague.
Well Anime balls deep i guess is athentic in these kind of stuffs.They criticized the ending by explaining all garbage stuff of the plot in a whole 1 hour video. Like everyone they fan of Aot story too.
It's one main problem, Isayama drop all what he could in the ending, and ok, if you leave me alone think about it I can connect all the points and create a logical story, but it's not clear, he make a totally mess. Eren wanted: save his Friends, save Paradis, destroy everything, stop the war, literally choose what you prefer (one of AoTard tell me that I am wrong because Eren want to save his friends and he leave Paradis in such situation on purpose, but in chapter 131 he told that it's not another choise to save Eldia and Paradis, oh but I don't understand AoT...)
I legit was like who is AnimeUproar, he must be a fool...and then I saw his avatar and I was NO W A Y! this guy is good, he has good takes, no my boah!
It's not that AnimeUproar is a bad anime reviewing channel. He have pretty goodd videos before. It's just that as a review channel who used to praise what needs to be praised and call out what is bad. AnimeUproar deep inside probably knows this ending is shit but he is kinda defending it so he doesn't lose subscribers which is disappointing.
it is, I just did a poor job of handling the audio in this video. I was in a rush to make this as I'm going on vacation tomorrow morning. Next time will be better.
Any major public figure, through the poltical sphere or the entertainment world, automatically introduce themselves to public scrutiny. Especially if they make a living doing those two things. Isayama is no different. If writes crap, he'll be criticized and rightfully so. If he writes a masterpiece, he'll be championed and righfully so. Isayama is a multimillionaire. So, sorry if i dont have crocodile tears if he feels disrespected or not. However, I can bet you he dosent care about what people feel about him. If he really did than this ending would not have divided the entire fanbase into ship camps, and pro 139 or con 139 crowds. He chose the shipping crowd. A mostly toxic minority of the fanbase. So, thats even more enraging in itself. If couples were foreshadowed far better than other awesomely foreshadowed themes in AOT, than it would have been ok. Its trash, but a good business decision. Boruto even existing and thriving proves that.
Isayama was told he was an anti-semite because of his story regarding Marley and Eldians. He was told he was genocidal because of the character of Pyxis. Please tell me how that's rightfully so?
@@nachgeben Hes in the public domain with a world aclaimed manga that explores sensitive topics. Of course hes going to get people shouting screaming at him unwittingly at times. Hes still has a very large base that loves his work, but i dont criticise him for any of the mentioned things you presented. I criticize him for Final Plot point to ending the series being the weakest route he could have taken. Im sure hes focuaing more on the fanbase that loves his work over the ones that hate it. Hes fine.
wasn't ymir stabbed in the heart? i thought that if a titan shifter got stabbed in the heart then they wouldn't be able to regenerate whatsoever. ...idkkk i heard it from somewhere
Warning: The Audio in this video is HORRENDOUS at some points, and I won't have the time to redo this hour long video. I did not make sure to test my audio before starting recording, won't make that mistake again. If you can bare with the sound, I think the arguments are pretty solid.
1.Yh That's My One Critique...Some Of Your Vids Are Really Low Volme..I Can Barely Hear That Clown ..
2. I Was Waiting for This Reaction Vid lmao..AnimeUproar ..Foxen ...These People Read Manga And Watching Anime For A Living ..Yet They Cant Understand How Garbage This Ending Is..So Yall Really Believe That These Anime Only Normies Are Gunna Be Objective And Criticize This Garbage? How??They're Gunna See The Titan Shifters Of The Past And The Final Battle And Erens Confession About Loving Mikasa And Loose Their Shit .. They're Not Gunna Take into Account That None Of It Makes Sense ..
@@shavaughnhendrickson1866 pretty sure a lot of anime onlies will dig this horrible ending, they are all biased and hyped af
@@rickchakraborty2087 Yup I Have No Faith ..These The Same Ppl That Think Demon Slayer Was Anime Of The Year .. lmao ..
@@shavaughnhendrickson1866 nah they’ll def acknowledge the flaws but it’ll take 2 years and it’ll be waived off cuz they liked the ending, at least on Twitter
Trust me, it's not the audio that makes this video bad.
Imagine if Light from Death Note suddenly broke down crying in the end, right before killing L, and said, “No, I don’t want Misa to find another man! I only want her to think about me! I also don’t know why I killed all those criminals, I think it was to unite you all against me!” And this guy defends it with “Well Light is just a teenager, it’s okay if he inexplicably goes against his entire character and motives, that’s how they are.” These people defending 139 are ridiculous.
Eren and Light are completely different characters lol
@@justusmuller9445 yeah because one is shit
Point is you can’t justify characters suddenly forgetting all their motives and acting pathetic and whiny like Eren in 139 did because “well he’s just a teenager, that’s how they act.” Hell the characters in Last Airbender are 12-13 and were way more consistent and emotionally mature than Eren. Same with Light. Same with hundreds of other teen anime characters. Age has nothing to do with it. It’s just a cop out.
I WOULD CRY IF THAT WAS THE ENDING
@@Saul.Gone_*Big oof*
Eren at 19 can't confess to the girl who is OBVIOUSLY in love with him. But Falco could confess his love towards Gabi.
19 year old eren can't admit his feelings for mikasa but he can kill 3 grown up men at 9
Yes because he has seen his future memories and knows he's going to go on a crazy genoicidal suicide mission that ends with Mikasa killing him. Ofc he's not gonna tell her, that would be unnecessary and cruel.
@@justusmuller9445 so doing all the other shit he does do to her isn't also unnecessary and cruel?
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Short-term sure, what he said to her wasn't nice, but manipulating her into disliking and killing him unlocks a better future for her long-term.
@@justusmuller9445 he didn't just say mean things to her he nearly got her and her friends killed , beat up her best friend right in her face, made her kill her own people when turned into pure titans , forced her to kill her own allies in the Yeargerests, forced her into another life threatening situation against the 9 titans and has to live with the trama of killing him to the point she mourns him her entire life and then her descendents are killed off later on how is that a better life long term?
Criticism is important.
Ik I hate when people’s only defense to their points are it’s just my opinion if you make a claim you should at least be able to explain why you feel that way
Apparently not according to most of the people who defend the ending.
Apparently not, you should always just accept whatever the fuck author gives you without asking any questions like a sheep, otherwise that's disrespectful to the author!
@@twelvethrower24 only maybe 0.1% of the fanbase did that, that doesn't represent the overall haters of the ending.
@@rickchakraborty2087 It doesn't matter how he wrote the ending he would have got them anyways. However, this specific ending was so bad Isayama should be considered a criminal for killing his series. Death threats are something complained about by creators when it's convenient. They do something stupid or terrible, then cry about death threats to look like a victim
Santitchief is the floch of aot youtubers. Goated and underatted and says it how it is
Fornever world, chibi and anime deep balls are our boys too. Big channels and they hate this garbage. There is hope in humanity
@@meawiyaothman7872
Yep agreed...Anime balls deep and these two guys critisized the ending on point
Perfect analogy lmao
King floch always told us the facts, he is a real hero
@@meawiyaothman7872 bruh Chibi's was the funniest dude was like "This ending was trash Isayama most have lost his mind. It was so bad I will never waste my time by even talking about the series anymore." Then proceeded to never make a video on AOT again lmao
It disgusted me the fact that Anime uproar is justifying eren killing billions of people because he is 19 lol
If Hitler was an anime protagonist, people would still defend him?
*People
@@pluoit2496 it will atleast be more resonarable if the goal weigh or outweigh the deaths he had committed like for example his goal is "to save my race, my friends, and my poeple but NOOO he apparently just wanted to save 4 of his friends like bruh your 4 friends does not weigh more than a billion people
@@eurasiaacaci.-110 but eren still failed protecting them lol
@@pluoit2496 Probably not, simply because of the reasoning that either commited these atrocities for.
One is for racial superiority( national superiority), the other was for survival, as the whole world's military was coming to kill Eren's people.
This analysis video is the equivalent of a disappointed, frustrated dad trying to help his son complete his homework at 1 am.
Cool analogy, can't disagree
😂😂😂 I laughed way too hard at this than I should
Facts but this kid is an anime UA-cam eho is tryin to school other people when he himself doesn’t understand the anime
Then he goes to manga and tries there too
@@bean181 "this kid"
Bro he's got a fucking beard
It’s more believable that Mikasa was having headaches because she was a slave to being an Ackerman and all that host bs than it is believable that Ymir had been peeking into her head that is supposedly immune to Titan powers etc which is the whole reason ackermans were persecuted. Put a retcon in plain sight and big UA-camr AoT boot lickers will still try and rationalize it
I'm positive Levi also had headache due to Erwin during the story, so if I remember correctly, was Ymir peeking into Levi's mind as well?
I still don't understand how could Eren & Ymir mess with Ackermans despite the manga establishing them being immune to the Founder titan shenanigans, but those are questions only Ymir knows the answer of
@@Justhunk He just made Ackermans cool, powerful because it is cool. There is nothing more to that, apperantly.
It makes more since first her headaches to be caused by stressful or traumatic events instead of the supernatural bullshit
Kenny and Levi never had headaches. The ackerman slave bond thingy was already debunked in ch130. Idk what you guys are on about.
@@justusmuller9445 so y did they have headaches?
He keeps saying Eren is a teenager! Eren is a teenager! ANNIE WAS A PRETEEN AND SHE NEVER BROKE CHARACTER ONCE
FR SHE STOMPED TF OUTTA PETRA WHATS HER EXCUSE
@@Kid_Kaizu and all the other survey coups members
" erens a teenager " eren at 9 killed 2 grown ass men convinced mikasa to kill the 3rd one and then went to bed that same night what manga do these people think there reading?
@@Kid_Kaizu Which is why Levi should have slaughtered Annie.
@@HolisticPython but Levi for some reason seems to be cool with Annie
This guy defends by uncertainty. Every single thing he says can be debunked by the next sentence he says
Will you make a video talking about this too ? I would love to hear you rant once again :D
@@davidpodhradsky7559 I might
I don't know how ending defenders can cope THAT HARD
From someone who's been arguing with them probably since the leaks came out (yeah turns out I have a lot of free time), AnimeUproar barely scratchs the surface.
@@bored_potato lol so true, check out EzQuart's subscribers you are bound to lose some braincells after reading their comments.
@@rickchakraborty2087 it’s just hard af to accept tbh 💀💀🤣✌🏽. Like people kinda have to defend it cuz then their favorite series gonna die out feel me ? 🤓 like FUUCK lol. It’s also perspective... some people maybe wanted that happy ass ending because they too kind hearted and felt like this world deserved a “happy” ending. It was meh tbh...
I saw the new aotr chapter and it was cool.... Eren was the edge lord y’all wanted LMFAOO but yea. I’m actually on the middle now. I knew I didn’t like the original ending but it’s not something I immediately began trashing and there was literally nothing I can do LMFAOO.
Eren really should have just killed and kept on going 💀 and everyone should have stayed dead.
By this world... *i meant paradis and the rest of the earth. Just to clarify
@@robloxvempor yeah
I’m glad big youtubers like Chibi, ABD and Fornever agree that the chapter is hot garbage
Who is ABD
@@bander-Coolb Anime balls deep, check out his hour long analysis of why AOT's ending ruined a masterpiece, it's an excellent video.
@@genghiskhan7691 oh yeah I have seen it
@Eren Yeager heavenly isn't a manga reader
@Eren Yeager I had no idea
Isayama was too cowardly to just admit Eren became a Villain and treat him as such.
How? He fought for the freedom of his people. Armin who allied with the Marleyans literally had no plan to stop the genocide of Paradisians which the rest of the world wanted. I honestly felt that this development was contrived and Isayama should have done some better world building instead.
@@justinpachi3707 How many children's blood is on Eren's hands?
Oh believe me Eren will live with all the guilt in the world but he doesn’t care at this point he’s seeen every possible path and at least on aotnr he recognizes fro true freedom that 100% of the world needs to be wiped out
Isayama lost the balls to treat his protagonist as a villain.
@@rickchakraborty2087 the EreMika shippers had them clamped until 139 v2.
I wish Ymir was left as what they initially framed her as: Someone who created titans because she had no sense of personal agency, even after she died.
There was something compelling about Eren being the one to free her and be the first one to treat her like a human. Instead, she did this all because she wanted her back to be blown out by Fritz and only ended up proving Marleyan propaganda correct
Yea honestly she should have been kept her vague
YES, and the fact that neither Eren nor Ymir actually gave a shit about the freedom and future of Paradis drastically changes everything they've been fighting for. Like their intial reason that was so interesting was just meant to be misleading and "clickbaity", because hey, turns out true freedom is found in the friendships (and unhealthily obsessed "lovers") we made along the way.
@@bored_potato yeah man the whole manga become pointless after chapter 139 drop, in the end nakama power always win and started to become cliche
In my opinion Ymir is definitively the worst character in the series, even more disappointing than the EMA trio. Why? Because she basically turned Eren and Mikasa into her playthings and got so many people killed for it. This fking girl deserves a worse fate than Eren, not just for the rumbling, but for the suffering of everyone throughout history at the hands of the titans just because she had a weird fetish for her abuser. I also blame Eren's breakdown as a character on her. Why tf is he suddenly so clueless and pathetic when he showed such determination before? I blame Ymir for mindfking Eren to the point that he can't even think straight anymore. She basically used him as a puppet and bastardized his life, feelings, and dreams. I absolutely hate this woman. The worst part is she got what she wanted and then poofed and left all the Eldians to die in the future. What a clown. Human life means nothing to her compared to her stockholm syndrome.
She was far more sympathetic of a character before but then the story turned her into a sadistic and manipulative weirdo with nonsensical motivations and ridiculously infinite power which she uses to drag all of the characters down to hell with her.
“Only 19 years old’ he’s an adult then not a child
When will people realize that only justifying and making sense of a story doesn't automatically make it a good story, there is more to it. Payoff, conclusion, motivation, character depth, depth of the conflict, the way characters react and solve the conflict, progression of the plot, character development, there are so many things to make it a good story. "He's a teenager" or "He's just a human" doesn't justify Eren's action in 139 at all. The mental gymnastics is insane.
I think the main problem is the misconception that "filling in blanks"/ not giving all the answers is a sign of being "deep".
There's a fine line between leaving subtext and open ended questions for the reader to figure out the hidden true meaning, and leaving plot holes for readers to fill in for themselves.
Many people, (including myself sometimes) don't see or don't care enough to see the difference. Labelling anything that "makes you think" as well written.
@@LeCatization Everyone sees things differently. That's why there are entire classes dedicated to the tearing apart and analysis of works of fiction. Doctorates are achieved writing papers doing exactly this. The people shaking and crying about this ending speak as though they are objective truth, and they're not. They're children who lack emotional intelligence and the inability to comprehend anything outside of, "But *I* wanted *this* and *I* didn't get *this* so fuck *you*."
@@nachgeben By that definition objectivity doesn't exist when judging fiction. While that is true to some degree, there are commonly agreed measures to rate stories on the quality of the narrative.
The ending is a mess in it's delivery, Eren's motivations, objectives and powers shouldn't be as vague and inconsistent as they were made out to be, especially since his abilities so heavily influence how his plan is executed. If you think that this ambiguity was to aid the narrative, what exactly was the message Isayama tried to convey by making us unable to definitively know these things? Even the people who liked the ending can't come to a consensus on what exactly Eren's goal and limit of his abilities were. I don't think this speculation aids the narrative in any way like other ambiguous works, so please enlighten me if it does.
The people who support the ending also aren't any better when it comes comprehension. Most supporters I've seen either don't care about the actual plot, or would accept anything with the logic that "it's realistic" or "it can't please everyone" to dismiss valid criticisms.
I was expecting a story about conflict and the human condition, but the ending gave me a forced message about "romantic" love, re-contextualizing everything to make Mikasa the focus. I guess I'm just another child with unreasonable expectations, I should have known better that SnK was first and foremost the romance story of Eren and Mikasa since that's what the ending is forcing down our throats.
@Capo Cañoneri Batman v Superman not a masterpiece but at least it's entertaining to watch though. AoT final chapter doesn't, it's just shit.
I think Ymir just wanted Mikasa to suffer the same way she did.
This ending is so stupid😂
Why is it stupid? Y'all want people who like it to write dissertations on why they do, so it's your turn. I'll expect your essay after class on next Friday.
So is the essay done?
Mikasa deserves it
@@nachgeben Its stupid because it many moments in the series obsolete
@@nachgebenliterally the entire ending speaks for itself with how terribly written it is. If you can’t see that, that’s just genuinely your own fault and shows how unbelievably gullible you are.
I cringed when he rated the ending better after the extra pages and he said mikasa moved on..... Yet still bringing roses to eren alot before she died. Then tried being deep about being forgotten? Like who is gonna forget eren after the rumbling. The man just wanna please his fans and is reaching. Use to watch his content but not anymore its so slow paced and he stretches things out and won't get to the damn points.
Yeah man it's always cringe when they say she moved on, her obsession is unhealthy there is nothing good in her character, ereh is her entire character
Stopped watching because he would spoil in his thumbnail every new chapter of something
@Chipo Bh nah bro she still wearing it when she visited Eren's grave with her husband and kids, take a closer look
@Chipo Bh Nah she is. She even gets buried in it lmao.
@Chipo Bh Nah she still has is on (you don't even need to zoom in) pbs.twimg.com/media/E1rYxRLUYAANwSX?format=jpg&name=medium
Why should the scarf be relevant?
Why was the scarf even kept for so long😂?
Idk what moving on she really did😂.
he saying a whole lotta "i think" and all his points are just made up shit with no evidence this some nasty caping by animeuproar
Ending defenders come up with the wildest shit lol
There in such denial
Here's some of the most common defenses I heard so far:
-"It humanizes Eren"
-"There's no real freedom. That's the point of the story" (I know, wtf too)
-"Cycle of war is endless"
-"Human conflict will always exist"
-"You just didn't understand the ending." (a classic)
-"You just didn't like the ending." (another classic)
-"You're an erehisu shipper." (No longer used as much but toxic shippers easily get triggered at the word "erehisu", mention it once and they'll lose their minds. It's kinda fun to see too lol)
-"Eren became free of himself" (???)
-"Eren is the most tragic character why can't you understand that"
-"It's Isayama's story, it's his ending"
-"Eren's a depressed 19 year old." (Yes, a depressed 19 year old who didn't cry for the billions he killed but cried because he wants his adopted sister to love no one else but him)
-"It's like (insert historical comparison)"
-"You're just mad your theories didn't come true."
-"You're just mad your headcanon didn't come true."
-"It's rEaLIsTiC." (how "realistic" an ending is does not dictate that it's a good ending)
-(feel free to add)
After arguing with them for days, it just kinda blurs altogether. There's the rare reasonable person who likes the ending and actually has some good points but more often than not, the majority I've met more or less just liked whatever crap they were given as long as it came from Isayama.
(I've said this once, I'll say it again anyway) So much so that sometimes it feels like that a lot of the 139 defenders tried to rewrite the entire series to fit the ending (maybe that's why AnR Eren is so foreign to them lmao). And now with this interview, they thought 139 haters would feel embarassed for being "wrong" about the "real Eren", but nope, it just pissed them off even more and more or less lost their respect in Isayama as a writer. Because apparently, Isayama just failed in his execution of the "whiny Eren" he always imagined and accidentally made him anything but that. Idk.
@@bored_potato perfectly put, at the end of the day art is subjective and we all have our opinions. Unfortunately some parts of this fandom is pathetic and non critical when it comes to their lord and savior Isayama.These defenders get too confident with their coped up headcannon and feel the need to mindlessly defend their belief with a slew of pseudo-intellectualism. All these people have to do is enjoy the ending in silence and shut up, these idiots really think they have some higher understanding of a straight forward ass story lmao
@@Capo_4L Yeah, I actually have no problem with those who actually have valid criticism, but to some people who are just biased and don't like anyone's opinions but theirs, they tick me off. If they really liked and were satisfied with it, they won't aggressively argue with people on the internet with a some sort of worship to the "Infallible Isayama". Heck, I've liked movies most people on the internet don't, but that doesn't mean I'll start a fight with anyone who dislikes it and call people idiots for no reason. Most of them dont even get the idea of "agree to disagree" and one even said, "No, I will not respect their opinion because I think it's wrong" like dude, why the hell are you even "debating" with people in the comment section?
@@bored_potato they treat Isayama like the second coming of Jesus, say literally ANYTHING against him and try to critisise him once, and you will have a bunch of bootlickers backlashing you.
Finally. For all the times this guy has spoiled me for countless series, he's finally getting criticism.
Finally I thought I was the only one getting his videos recommended and getting spoiled
Tbh, that is completely out of his control, idk if you got spoiled because you're subbed to him or because it got recommended to you but in the end he's just doing what every youtuber does, making videos, am i saying that you're wrong for being pissed about it, no you definitely have a right to be pissed about it, but neither is he in the wrong for making content that he wants to do, it just can't be helped
Btw, i know your comment is allready old so my comment may be completely irrelevant to you but i still wanted to tell you this anyways, just in case you're still not over it
you're the hero we don't deserve
I just hope when the anime comes out, it'll be just like Game of Thrones where everybody unanimously hates it. For example the panel where Eren cries over Mikasa moving on, could you imagine how much worse that'll be animated with voice acting? Personally I look forward to seeing that shitshow, for the memes of course.
Hopefully anime onlies are smarter than most manga readers who defend 139.
@@ricardasrusilas924 I have no evidence but I doubt it lmao
@@cardfearray7337 saying that people are too picky or nitpicking isn’t an argument if you wanna have a discussion on why you think the ending was good I’d be happy to so that maybe we can understand the other sides views better but don’t just invalidate criticism because you don’t like it
@@cardfearray7337 I’m an anime only too and I’ve watched a lot of reviews. It’s looking like eren’s character got clapped and the ending is a solid 3/10🥲
@@ricardasrusilas924 most of the anime onlys are biased af fanboys, so I doubt it.
Why do people baby Eren, he’s literally an adult by the end of the series.
its not that hes an adult or teen
the way he reacted is simply character degradation to his previous self.
eren may broke down but not whine.
unless he experienced a death similar to berturtle which he didnt.
eren is a 🤡
@@marshalsoult3860 yeah I mean I dont expect a chad who killed his mother for tHe GrEaTEr GoOd would breakdown for a chick he didn't like for more than half of pre-timeskip
@@krabbykat9918 first if all stop with this nonsense use of chad or simp or whatever.
the problem i had with this is he nevee had any scene to justify why he acted that way.
mikasa and eren didn’t even talked for long periods of time. 😑😑😑
4:25 There's also the fact that, as you pointed out before, the remaining 20% of humanity vastly outnumbers the people on paradis.
they number in 400 million while paradis is only 1 mil and decades behind in technology. only a moron would ever think paradis had a chance without the rumbling power. so that includes isayama and anyone who defends this stupid story.
then people would say that paradis had a civil war then you wonder wtf they'd have a civil war and then they say it's because the "cycle of war never ends humans are greedy" bs they always throw, for the love of everything good, GIVE ME SOMETHING MORE SPECIFIC
@@kormak8280 Sigh.
1. Paradis caught up in technology and even shocked people with the fact that they had airships, and the unique 3D maneuvering/ODM gear.
2. All the other countries may have more people, but that doesn't speak for any key resources that they would need to launch a war. If you have 100 people in a room, and 1 of them has a machine gun, 99 of them might try shit, but they're going to lose.
3. The Rumbling started at shores at various countries. That means vital harbors in a 1940s-tech world were destroyed. Harbors can be both civilian and military. Vital military installations are set close to shores often for access to the oceans. Without these vital installations, 400 million people aren't doing shit to 1 million people who are running at full capacity.
It takes just a modicum of real world understanding. Go outside and touch some grass, weeb.
@@nachgeben calling me weeb when you fanboying over this shit ending and trying to defend it's bs lol. paradis lost and the ending was stupid.
paradis was also decimated by the rumbling since they have walls within walls within walls. so did the colossal titans tiptoe carefully around all the people and buildings... also forgot about the civil war and the fact that there was a literal coup that killed off many high ranking military officials. yeah of course you didn't mention that. just slipped your mind didn't it redditor?
they are not running at full capacity either fool. paradis is heavily outnumbered and your analogy is biased and stupid like you. some shithole tiny island with 1 million people having a civil war have no chance against 20% of the world who have a common enemy. anyone who thinks that, like you, is a moron. even the ending showed that they were fucked, despite being stupid about it.
I am currently in a depressive episode and this video being long made me feel happy because it didn't end fast. Thank you. Appreciate you.
The memes they will heal thr AOT ending depression the memes are the best thing about this ending.
@@bander-Coolb Right??? They help a lot.
@@zhulimoon46 you saw the one where mikasa is chased by a bird and Jean is hitting the bird best clip I have ever seen
Watch other animes. Its my way to cope up dude 😂😂😂😂😂
@@jennyarpilleda4809 I am but I decided im gonna mostly watch finished animes that ended good, so that i dont get hurt again haha
I use to wonder why the ending is being hated so much then later i realised how awfully the ending was written
What I like about AOT's shitty ending is it opened my eyes about which of these anime youtubers were clowns, and which of them are kings 👑
So, basically, it opened your eyes as to which ones spew the same shit out of their mouth that you do and don't wish to be challenged in any way. Got it.
@@nachgeben i see you everywhere in this comment section. What exactly is the issue with adressing the issues with it? I understand that it's phrased harshly sometimes, but explain.
dude had to fill in a lot of the story's holes with some incredible mental gymnastics then calls it a masterpiece XD
In totality, Parasyte is a better anime than AoT. A bad ending can make or break a series. Hence AoT is the GoT of anime and manga.
Gross.
Parasyte is weird because it has incredible moments but most of it is average at best.
ending doesnt make whole story bad lol.ending doesnt make sense it means it was reconned last moment,you can hate it but the story is masterpiece of media with amaizing plot character . you are too much focusing on ending bro and want to deny the journey you experieced and got from the story! i hate ending so much but it doesnt make storybad
I recently started working on an AOT fanfiction, and your videos were a major help in helping me figure out what I should and shouldn't do when writing it. So thank you, and I wish you the best of luck with your manga.
Marley: Are you titan or human?
Armin: If we can turn to titans, we will transform right now and kill you but we didnt so we are not titans!
Marley: Aight then, we goin home. Bye
gyahahaha guess Marleyans were scared shitless assuming Armin would turn into a second Eren🤣
This is how I would've personally written Armin's argument;
Armin: You know, we didn't have to come and save you guys. As a matter of fact, we would've benefitted from just letting Eren wipe you guys out completely. We CHOSE to put ourselves at risk to stop Eren and save you guys because we believe your people have just as much of a right to live in this world as we do even though all you've ever done is try to wipe us out. Even now, we're willing to put ourselves at your mercy in the hopes we can stop all this senseless bloodshed but the choice ultimately lies with you. We can either work together to put all this hatred behind us so that our children can be saved from the vicious cycle we've been trapped in for so long or we can continue to kill each other like animals. What's it going to be?
That's just how I would've written it.
I feel like I can watch/read Fairy tail with no problem thanks to this awful ending, at least they are consistent about the fucking nakama power
Yes! Same, I never finished watching it but now I can XD I read the manga and yes, they are consistent until the very end.
Well I mean it’s not over their 100 years quest
@@ilovesummer9750 I gave up on the 100 years quest haha XD
@@jackraiden6180 lol
I mainly apart of the anime japanese fanbase. Majority of the fanbase hates chapter 139 alot and pointed out the contradictive flaws of the climax.
- Eren bullshit romance with Mikasa, that was never foreshadowed in the japanese version of the story.
- How the rumbling contradicts Eren previous motivations, since his genocide of 80% of the world was unnecessary. Eren Yeager cared about his country and people he fights. 139 made him a unsympathetic psychopath that doesn't have the decency for human life.
Thank you.
@John Connor come till this person they aren't Japanese.
When the final chapter came out Japanese fans literally called out Isayama bullshit.
- Assassinating Eren and Armin character development.
- Killing off Zeke who embodied freedom itself, majority of the fanbase agreed that Zeke death was poorly handle, Eren embodying his philosophy downplays his efforts as villain.
Majority of the fanbase lost all respect to Isayama writing, no matter how deep and philosophical it was on ethical spectrum. It broke many of those established.
Even before chapter 139 came out, Eren in the time skip already accepted responsibility of every generational problem his father and brother did, while not being like them.
I hate the climax of Attack on Titan.
its so nice to hear this. people say the japanese majority loved the ending.
@@saintitchief the japanese majority hate and made tones of threads, removing there bias from the ships and Isayama story.
To point out the nonsensical stuff that doesn't make any sense 😭
@@pseudopanda2538 glad to hear that
I'm watching the video and it's enjoyable but the audio of the AnimeUproar is too low and when you talk is too loud.
There are stories that use better the concept of beings that exists in the past, present and future at the same time, I am just done listening to a podcast that uses the exact concept in a better way, and you can feel and believe these beings perceive time differently than us. Eren never gave any indication that he perceived time in such way other than a throwaway line in 139.
The podcast is called Alice isn't Dead, if anyone is interested. It even has an ending that is similar to AoT's ending in concept, but much better executed.
Thank you for the new recommendation. I'l add it to stuff-to-read-or-watch-after-aot-traumatized-me-into-no-longer-loving-a-series-that-doesn't-have-an-ending-yet
@@bored_potato lol
I think it's his brother not the original anime uproar
I’m actually so glad you posted this
You have to understand that Eren is such a failed Erekose from the "eternal warrior" Michael Moorcock's story, on which Isayama relied heavily. He could not give a conclusive ending, as in this book, because he had a contract for shonen, which cannot be only for adults. Isayama just used the best of Erekose themes to cast the bait and get the public, then end up sloppy for money.
People are stupid with the shounen argument. They say „it’s a shounen what did you expect?“ well then don’t build up 123 chapters for a different direction you dumbass. And also isayama is a hack and asshole for disrespecting Michael murcock. He never mentioned the eternal champion as influence
AoT should never have been a shounen, how tf is this show for anyone else other than adults? AoT is not a kid's show because of all the mature themes and stuff.
@@meawiyaothman7872 It's hard to disagree after many years of waiting and analyzing.
@@rickchakraborty2087 "bUt thEre aRe teeNagErs and tHat's WhY iT hAs tO be tHaT wAy" (like emo school things ) ;)
Yams was a reader of weekly shonen jump. You could pinpoint its similarities with Naruto+Code Geass.
Are you gonna make a video on the eren and mikasa romcom?
It's coming out tomorrow
It'll be a snoozefest
Why are they giving so much focus on romance all of a sudden? Tf?
Ikr the only romance that actual plot development and key character arcs would’ve been historia and Eren cuz I’m assuming historians kid would also be erens which would motivate him to free the world from as much hatred as possible and also still keep historia in character as a person who didn’t just get knocked up by an npc but a queen who fought for her people and stood by her lover and was the only one who could understand him
@@bean181 yup
Levi told Mikasa that her headaches is caused by Ackerbonds because he have the same headaches. It is revealed that Ackerman bonds doesn't exist in chapter 131 and Mikasa loves Eren. Now, we know that Ymir is trying to peep into her mind which is why she have headaches. I have two questions: Why Levi have headache if the Ackerman bond doesn't exist and Why can Founding Titan affect the mind of an Ackerman? We are told that Ackerman are impervious to mind wiping and mind alterations.
1. No, Levi never said he has headaches.
2. At no point does the FT alter Mikasa's memories.
@@justusmuller9445 The ending literally erased her memories bruh are you serious?
@@justusmuller9445 1. He asked Mikasa if she had headaches, how did he know if he didn't have those headaches? Do you not know what things called implied meaning?
2. Eren literally controlled her memories twice (the wood cabin) and the end. And it was implied he even wiped Levi's memory too. Consider Ackerman's memories could not be controlled by Founding Titan. This is a very serious plot hole. Don't cope with it.
srsly WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS DUDE. I lost it when he said that the message of aot was that war is inevitable. Fuck no, that's not the message, the message was said by Eren in 130: his primary goal was to end the cycle of hatred towards eldians. So if you live in an unfair situation just bc of your ethnicity than you should do something about it, that´s the message. Try to change the world around you to make it a better place for you and your people.
Yup, but apparently that was never the message, that was a lie as well, just like most of the series.
@@rickchakraborty2087 I'm sad man
also to stop the generational hatred, by not burdening the future generations with their ancestor's sins. this theme had been brought up over and over even when they reached fort salva, by having the marleyan general stated that everything happened because of the adults. that they are putting their selfish desire towards the children. magath even regretted it before he died. kaya even screamed about what is her mother's fault? bcs she is born in this era while gabi kept ranting about the ancestor's sin.
this was also brought up by floch, that all the jaegerist did is for their parents, wife, and even more their children and grandchildren. this was also tom ksaver and zeke's reasoning for euthanazation plan, to not burden future generations for their ancestor sin.
but.
eren and the alliance, did just that. and what? paradis got destroyed. the alliance may have live long but what abt their descendants?
what the fck with message.
even worst that the guidebook is trying to make eren as a selfless martyr. made you wonder about isayama and the editor's ideology. not only made armin and the others thanking eren and sees eren like a hero, but also potraying eren as a tragic hero, a martyr, that is really say a lot of their ideology.
to have people defend this and called the ending as beautiful is just- i have no words. no wonder why chinese fans are angry, especially if you remember how Japanese army was back in World War II lol.
I think people don’t understand that Eren was In the paths for a long time so although his biological age is like 19 his mental age is somewhere between 25-35
We don't know about that . The "paths " conept itself was never explained and never will.
Even without that eren was easily able to come to terms with the fact that the people of Marley are just humans and not evil monsters just the people of paridis yet was still able to killing every last one of them without a second thought People want to give me this " he's 19" bullshit when this was the same guy who body slammed a stage full of people and was slamming his fists on them after they were well dead , these people have to ignore shit that happened in previous arcs to come up with these bullshit arguments
eren was a monster who murdered millions of innocent people but the reason why i still shipped EH but not EM (apart from the fact that EM was designed to be platonic/familial love) was that eren basically picked historia over the rest of the world meanwhile he was a complete jerk to mikasa throughout the series. eren could have saved paradis and have his freedom with the 50y plan too but he refused to sacrifice historia. it's confirmed over and over again even in 138.
we'll never know why historia was so important to him (probably because AnR was the original ending) but the fact remains that EH is a better ship because eren actually showed concern and respect for historia and he was even shown smiling at her a couple of times, meanwhile the nicest thing he did to mikasa was saving her from her kidnappers. but even that scene is portrayed as traumatic to mikasa with isayama describing it as mikasa losing her innocence even though all she wants is a quiet life where she and her family are safe. yams said that mikasa wants to go back to the girl she was and the life she had before that incident.
I genuinely love how this man says shit like "oh my god" when au started saying some pseudo intellectual shit it's hilarious
If Hitler and Stalin were anime protagonists people would love and defend them lol
Nah the headaches were retconned as well. Eren stated that ackermans get headaches when they try to oppose their host when their true self fights against the bond to the master. Why else would Eren know that out of nowhere? And since he mentioned that ackermans in general get headaches like this, is that supposed to mean that Ymir was trying to contact every single ackerman who gets headaches? thats still a plothole and retcon, saint. it hasnt been filled at all. isayama randomly made it so that ymir was causing the headaches just so that he could further make mikasa the MC in this ending
true, I guess I just didn't care enough about Mikasa to remember that.
It's not a retcon lol, Eren was deliberately lying, that was made clear in a later chapter. Recontextualization doesn't mean retcon. Kenny and Levi were never shown to have headaches and they're also not dependant on the 'Ackerman bond'
@@justusmuller9445 Ah yes lets say Eren was lying about every fucking thing so that we can justify this ending in SOME WAY.
@@Lachinio Zeke in ch130 literally confirms that he was lying ._.
@@justusmuller9445 With what new added information from Zeke's side? Cause none of it was proven and is just retcon gymnastics. How did Ymir get in touch with Mikasa when she is a Ackerman and is supposed to be immune to that memory probing stuff to begin with. That's why the Ackermans are spread thin as they are. Now you are telling me that never was the case? Talk about contradicting your story. What are the Ackermans exactly? Oh just OP people to save the main cast from any dire situation in the plot. Literal walking plot armor.
god, could you stop spitting facts for just 5 minutes??
Bro it feels like people agree with every video they see. Like when they see explanation why ending is good they think the same
People can't think for themselves
I can think for my self when I say the ending is a solid 8/10
Most people are biased and delusional so what do you expect?
@@cardfearray7337 well if you have your own opinion and arguments thats ok , for my opinion ending (139) is 6.5/10
@@cardfearray7337 tell me why it’s an 8/10. Let’s see this
Just here to say, I’m finally first to one of your amazing videos. Keep it up. I will now begin to watch it, lmao.
Nothing on Earth can convince me that Eren had any sort of romantic feelings for Mikasa. People claim that Eren sent Mikasa that paths dream, but that hasn't ever even been confirmed, and also makes zero sense considering Mikasa is an Ackerman. It's pure headcanon.
The problem with a these "breakdown" videos regarding the ending and Eren/Mikasa is that more than half of these videos pass headcanons/inferences as pure canon fact. It's so disingenuine.
I rewatched it twice and sure he loved her but in the way he loved Armin. Like as family not anything more.
"pass headcanons/inferences as pure canon fact. It's so disingenuine.
" EXACTLY
Damn this dude can debate
He want to write a story himself when he's older after all
@@someonerandom130 fr??? Dope!
Yeah ok, great debate skills. This is guy is all emotion. He's too much like his mother.
The EDs like to excuse Eren's actions in the last 17 chapters because he's just a 19-year-old boy and at the same time blame gabi, a 12-year-old for THREE murders of the islanders
Brilliant
I mean, He can say that he still likes aot despite the bad ending and that's totally fine, but defending this ending is an insult to the people who paid attention to it
why can't he do like Roger's base did? He just stated he liked the ending. End of video. no need for debate.
@@chocolatephantasms I agree, I didn't like the video because he came up with nonsensical excuses to defend the awful writing of the the final chapter (including the extra 8 pages)
@@chocolatephantasms I think even Rogers base knows deep down how bad the ending was, even though he gave the ending a 7/10
@@rickchakraborty2087 Idk, a lot of my friends still like Game of thrones even tho the final season was appalling
Aot is still 10/10 for me because that final arc and ending is non canon
Man I just wanna thank you for being the voice of the Anti-139 community, you’re doing Gods work by fighting against the zombies.
And weren’t the Eldian ambassadors just completely useless? They pretty much were told to “f off and prep for future annihilation” idk why defenders keeping bringing them up like they did anything.
Seriously if all of this could be solved by just talking it out eren would have never done the rumbling
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Eren was proven right every step of the way. Even the peace conference they went under incognito was just straight up "Mainland Eldians alright, Paradis Eldians bad." and then Tyburs happened in Liberio, fuck even the Azumabito's who came under the guise of cooperation was there just to exploit Paradis for their resources.
@@nadhifbhagawantahadiprayit975 exactly even if I didn't aggre with the rumbling at first I still understood that he had to do it
I mean, if making whining noises and screaming WHY into a mic is the voice you want, than you do you, kid.
33:48 I don't think you are entirely correct here. Yes, they were hated for their past, but every nation has its "not so good" part of History, but eventually get forgiven. The thing that separates eldians from the rest of the world is the fact that they can turn into Titans. Every single one can be used as a weapon. In theory, will of a one single person can unleash millions of titles and enslave the rest of the world just like hundreds of years ago. If you think about it, there is much more reason towards being afraid of eldians than just their past.
thats true but the eldians that were in marleyan captivity were not ever going to be capable of doing that and were still hated. even the shifters who won their wars were still hated. even zeke.
Here, you dropped this king 👑
Anime Uproar is a channel run by brothers. Animak, the guy who’s speaking in the video, recently did a Aot watch/read through on a podcast with other anime youtubers. His brother is the one who did all the Aot videos.
nah Animak did tons of AoT videos. In fact, I liked his videos more than his brothers.
@@saintitchief oh shit my bad lol. I just checked🤦🏽♂️
Isayama made his story so convoluted that even he didn't know how to properly end it.
I like how everyone's suddenly fine with psychological analysis when it's not saying that a normal 12 year old girl doesn't fall victim to a terrorist attack, witness two of her friends die, shoot a person in the chest and then fly abruptly to another country and stay relatively fine
w h a t
@@nachgeben Gabi
bro these people are too afraid to come out and tell the truth
I'd just like to make a point here:
There's this really obscure OVA from the 80's called MD Geist. It's a story about a genetically engineered super-soldier called Geist -- the guy is a complete and utter sociopath and isn't even remotely better than the main villain. For reference, just picture Doomguy if he was a complete asshole who directed his murderous rage towards humans instead of demons.
Right, so near the end after having killed the villain, Geist decides to unleash a robotic army upon the world which results in the near-complete annihilation of mankind. Why? Because this way he can keep fighting enemies for a long while. Basically, he obliterates humanity just to be an asshole. *HE OBLITERATES HUMANITY. JUST TO BE AN ASSHOLE.*
Just to drive the point home, the story ends with a shot of Geist sporting a psychotic grin on his face, as if he can't wait to get started.
Right, you get all that? Now here's the thing: apart from being relentlessly grim and nihilistic, the story itself is laughably poorly written with terrible voice acting, cheesy dialogue and abysmal animation...yet the story still makes more sense than what Isayama came up with -- and the reason for that is because of consistency. Considering everything Geist did up to the end, having him destroy humanity for such a petty reason was not at all out-of-character for him -- the man's a mass-murdering sociopath for goodness' sake, slaughtering people left and right with a big goofy grin on his face and he's so obsessed with killing that he outright ignores the advanced of his "love interest" -- a better word would be "harpy" but I digress.
My point is that an intentionally depressing ending is easier to accept if it feels like a logical conclusion to the story's course.
Fans were fully prepared to accept Eren destroying humanity because we understood he had no other option left and everything in the story was leading up to such an event...yet Isayama chose not to have his story reach a logical conclusion even though he had major characters killed off for minor reasons, as if to drive the point home how nihilistic the whole thing is. He decided to cop out and deliver an esoteric happy ending that feels completely unearned and ironically renders all the deaths and struggles pointless...and people are making excuses for it, as if the story was meant to end the way it did. It's like watching a man run a perfectly fine marathon only for him to go "fuck it" and intentionally stumble and fall 100 meters before the finish line...and then have people say he was meant to do that. Bollocks.
The comparison to the Geist OVA is interesting but I don't really get your point regarding how it's having a better conclusion than AoT. Eren too wants to destroy the world cause he's an asshole and it's in-character for him to do the rumbling.
There were foreshadowings that hinted that the rumbling would happen, yes, and it was shown that deep down Eren wants to complete the rumbling (destroy all his enemies),yes, BUT there were no indications that he would be successful and actually destroy the whole world (quite the opposite, because there were indications that he would be stopped). It was not a cop out by Isayama.
What I was trying to say is that a depressing ending that's thematically appropriate and logically conclusive is much easier to accept than an artificially happy one.
Take Game of Thrones for instance -- after season 8 ended, many fans agreed that even having everyone die at the hands of the Night King would've been better, if only because it would've saved them all from terrible writing.
If that's not enough, then let me put it like this:
The video game Nier is one of the saddest and most depressing games in existence and it pretty much ends with humanity going extinct. The thing is, the game is not nihilistic because its protagonist are flawed but sympathetic and even the enemies have sympathetic motives. Another thing is that all the drama and conflict in it is the result of tragic misunderstandings rather than nihilistic spite, which makes the ending even sadder because of this.
And just to be super nihilistic, the video game Armored Core: For Answer takes place on Earth that has been ravaged and turned into an uninhabitable wasteland by a bunch of corporations waging war on one another. To spare you the details, you're given the option to either protect the corporations and maintain the status quo -- the same one that caused this mess in the first place -- or commit mass murder to force the rest of humanity to leave the planet...or go on a genocida killing spree and put everyone out of their misery. It really says something about the state of the world when the latter option feels like the most rational course of action you can take, if only because it offers a permanent solution to humanity's plight.
By contrast, AoT has always been extremely grim and even nihilistic at times...and its world has proven to be such an awful place that Eren's decision to kill off the rest of humanity actually comes off as a perfectly rational response to everything he's been forced to put up with. The world will never make peace with Paradis; Eren knows this and we know that too. The story never portrayed his actions as being morally right but rather tried to make a statement on how terrible the world must be that we could fully understand Eren's decision to put a permanent stop to this cycle of hatred by killing everyone.
The ending tries to make it seem as though peace has finally become possible when in reality, nothing's changed; 80% of humanity is dead and the rest of them still hate Paradis, now more than ever. Reiner and Annie never paid for their crimes and the story pretends like everything is hunky dory now that Eren has practically destroyed most of humanity and its infrastructure. Over at TV Tropes we'd call this an Esoteric Happy Ending -- an ending only the autor considers to be happy, in spite of all the implications to the contrary.
@@supereldinho Okay I think what you're getting at here is that you think that a full rumbling ending would've fit the tone of the story overall better. I don't necessarily agree but it's hard to argue against because it's a somewhat subjective matter.
I do think that kind of ending could work if it was built towards, but I don't think the last 2-3 arcs were headed that direction. There was too much emphasis on "both sides" and "the world isn't black and white". The animosity between the two parties was caused by ignorance and not actually knowing the other side. Marleyans that visited Paradis and lived there(Reiner, Gabi, Niccolo, Magath) largely emphasized with the people on the island, the survey corps members who visited Marley were immediately against Eren destroying the outside world. The rise of yeagerists showed that the people of Paradis are no better than the outside world, they're totally okay with killing people they don't know if it guarantees their survival and oppressing non-eldians in their homeland. I'd find it weird if they were just rewarded in the end without consequences.
Edit: I still agree that the tone of the last chapter feels a bit off.
I like anime uproar but saying the reason eren was crying over mikasa was because he was 19 and was human, Yet eren clearly has the mental strength to handle the fact that he destroyed 8/10 of the population. I know that eren was crying once in a story about doing this and I know eren cared about his friends but the weight of having millions upon millions of people dead because of you is something that no man can handle and yes he may care about mikasa but there was no romantic tension between the two. The kiss was so random, for me atleast, Isayama didn’t really make it that known. Just because they are opposite genders doesn’t mean they have to be a couple. I can understand mikasa loving eren but eren never really showed interest. Armin just didn’t feel like a leader. I don’t care about chad eren, that’s not why his character is good. Eren just proved marley’s point in saying they are devils. He didn’t resolve shit
Ok just a few things:
"Yet eren clearly has the mental strength to handle the fact that he destroyed 8/10 of the population."
I think the manga showed it well with the infamous freedom-panel that Eren has to regress into a childlike-state of mind to cope with what he's doing. He's crushed by his guilt and admits he deserves to die for his actions when he thinks clearly about it.
"there was no romantic tension between the two."
True there wasn't a lot of tension shown but it's because Eren knows his fate through future memories so starting some kind of relationship with Mikasa when he knows she has to kill him soon would be very cruel. His romantic interest was hinted at through flashbacks and memories/memory-shards but he can't act on it. That's the tragedy of the situation.
"Armin just didn’t feel like a leader."
The whole point was for him to overcome his insecurities and become a leader-figure using his talents but I do agree that his character could've been handled better.
"Eren just proved marley’s point in saying they are devils."
Yeah that's the point and the irony of the situation. The chapter where he starts the rumbling is literally called "island devils"
"He didn’t resolve shit"
He got to live out his childish destructive desires in doing the rumbling, he ensured long lives for his friends and got rid off the titan curse which was a major source of conflict. He didn't achieve eternal peace or whatever but I don't think he cared much for it in the first place. It's unrealistic too.
@@justusmuller9445 fair enough
@@justusmuller9445 Not to mention it's not in his characterization to care about eternal peace. He was a feral idiot from childhood. Zeke even expressed amazement on how he thought Eren was brainwashed into how he is, only to discover that no, Eren was literally just born a maniac.
He expressed his friends/loved ones are the most important people to him, and he let go of his personal anger towards people like Reiner because he understood they were doing what they thought was right, just as he was. He would let the world burn for them, and is why when he could stop them from stopping him, he didn't. He never took away free will, even if his own was debatably not present.
There's a moment that's emphasized when Eren snaps. It's when he's sitting there, waiting and viewing a parliamentary meeting, so they can talk to a group fighting for the rights of Subjects of Ymir. Here, a representative of this group declares they're "Victims of Eldians, just like all of us--but not those Island Devils, no sir!"
You can see Eren never wanted to do what he did, but he realized that the visions he saw were indeed the only way to keep his loved ones safe. Not just from the world, but the titan curse.
Unfortunately, the whole 'to fight monsters you need to become a monster' schtick is valid here and is seen many times in fiction and reality. You might achieve your goals, but you'll lose yourself along the way, and as your mind slips deeper into being a monster, you may forget why you did this, or why you did that. All you'll know is if you've gotten closer to or farther from your goal.
I don't see anything in Eren's progression as OOC or as not achieving anything. We just don't all agree with how much he truly achieved, and if there was a better way or not. And that's always been the point, hasn't it? Was there a better way to anything? What if Bertholdt, Annie and Reiner had gone home after Marcel? What if they had spoken to Marco instead of what they did to him? What if Grisha had never taken his sister outside Liberio? What if, what if, who was actually in the right? Who was actually in the wrong? Was there a better way, etc?
And really, in the world as it was pre-Rumbling, WAS there a better way?
Please make a counter video exactly like this after watching Jake Retake's video, the dude used to be an anime only until he decided to read the manga after S4 part 1 ended. He used to be a great thinker and I used to enjoy his reactions to AoT episodes. But now for some reason in his manga review video he made he's been too soft and is just ignoring all the flaws and doesn't even bother to look critically in certain scenes, instead all he does is keep saying "I don't see any problem with the ending, I think it's fine". I have no hopes for the anime onlies, I'm pretty sure they will dig this ending because they are all hyped and biased af.
will do.
@@saintitchief :)
Anime uproar is a Eremika shipper what do we expect
Eremika dosen't even become canon so idk what are people talking about
It;s a damn shame that popular UA-camrs rather be the former and defend trash manga endings so they dont wanna get attacked by his subs who liked it. A damn shame.....
I come back to this video almost daily
Anime Uproar and Foxen Anime are awful right now. Anime uproar is literally speculating throughout this entire video and clearly in denial while Foxen is clearly an agent for AoT. I've lost a ton of respect for both of them!
The delivery on “Eren was not her *spouse*” at 41:00 was hilarious lol
These people are approaching the ending with the wrong mindset. Everyone should be thinking about the story critically and how it all ties together, not "It's written down so it must make sense".
People can't think for themselves, they are sheep
I don't get your point.
@@justusmuller9445 what's there to not get?
Anime uproar and foxen anime are a big aot simps, very disappointed in them
They're not simps, they have different opinions than you. Especially foxen, he respectfully disagrees with the haters in a natural way. You are just coping too hard
@@swiggydswirl330 they are simps for defending the shitty ending , and you are a simp too for defending it
@@yassineboutaleb9472 What does simp mean to you
Loved the video. Awesome, awesome and hilariously entertaining stuff. Thanks!
Eren: When I was in the 3rd Grade people treated me like a criminal Because I KILLED SOMEBODY!!!!!!!!
Remember when the scouts reached the sea and Eren cried because he wanted to be with Mikasa .
Yep!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Isn't this the same UA-camr who enjoys SAO and MHA?
What's wrong with mha? It's slightly generic, yeah, but it's a solid shounen
@@whythehecknot5038 it has a badly-built lore, many underdeveloped and wasted characters, the big amount of plot holes etc
Love your content. Keep going.
Lol anime uproar saying that a natural disaster killing every eldian is stupid. First because Eren causes the biggest disaster in human history when rumbling 80% of the world, killing plants, animals and humans.
I watched the first 10 minutes of his video and I stopped because of exactly what you said he explained he didn’t know why his points made sense but still made those points😂
Not the he's just a teenager argument again FFS ... how old was he when he brutally murdered mikasa's kidnappers? 8 maybe?? he also said in path he was always like that meaning he was always ready to hurt those who tried to take his freedom away.
Ohh you should have better managed the audio between yourself and animeuproars...its a drag, listening to you normally and then not hearing anything when animeuproar talks
Where did he get the “collective conscious” of the founder power? I know the the paths connect every Eldian and past present and future but that’s not how the paths works. There is no clear rules. That’s the point that it’s bad
So what is the collective conscious of the founder?
This is not Jungian Psychology. Where did he get that?
Again is he a human and a collective conscious? I thought in your first point he melded with it.
Also. Freedom. If we analyze Eren’s freedom through the lens of philosophy. Existentialism. There are 2 kinds of freedom, essential freedom which is freedom to enact choices and existential freedom, which is “freedom of being” Both of this freedom is what Eren is fighting for: Essential freedom- freedom outside the walls, being able to live his life and explore, and free from people getting other people’s freedom and Existential freedom- which is Eren’s “I was born into this world”.
That is why destiny and fate doesn’t apply in the story. It was not even introduced until the last minute. The story is not even about living your destiny but living out your freedom (choice and existence).
Also the immature aspect? This is attack on titan. This is a dark fantasy, psychological show not a rom com.
The immature aspects fit in rom com because rom com makes it funny not justify the character of a person who murdered 80% of the world.
Rushed dialogue? It’s more like Mikasa needs to be shoehorned or else she loses her imporantace this arc.
I’ll edit my points while watching the video
He's just making shit up and the idiots will take it as gospel.
The argument I hate the most is that Eren is just an emotional 19 year old kid.
People forget about how he murdered 2 men when he was 8. People forget how he joined the military at a young age. People forget how he holds this god like power in a world where only a selected few have it. People forget how he can literally change the past in the right circumstances. People forget he killed 80% of the world.
How is Eren your typical emotional 19 year old who breaks down because his “crush” will live a life without him, when he himself chose to not even continue living.
Exactly these arguments basically pretend previous arcs didn't happen that completely contradicts this claim people are looking for every excuse in the book
Being extremely violent and being emotional aren't mutually exclusive, quite the opposite actually. Eren is very emotional throughout the whole story, for various reasons. A lot of the time Eren commits acts of violence precisely because he is emotional. In my opinion the entire point of Eren's character is to showcase how dangerous it is to burden an evidently very childish and emotional person with power and high expectations.
He didn't really choose not to continue living, the curse of Ymir would've got him in 3 or so years anyway. His choice was to spend his last remaining years securing a better future for his loved ones instead of living them out spending time with them. He would've been seperated from Mikasa and everyone else soon enough either way.
@@justusmuller9445 yes but here's the thing you people keep forgetting it's not that eren is being emotional it's the context to why he's being emotional he's not crying because he'll die filled with regrets or because of all the innocent people he's killed but because Mikasa will not be with him that's retarded and undermines the horrible actions he's committed it's terrible writing .
He kinda did he gave up and allowed mikasa and the scouts to kill him Armin literally offered him a second chance at life and he rejected it , his desire to secure a happy life with his friends is redundant when he almost got those same freinds killed numerous times and damned there descendents to obliteration .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Well that's kinda a different argument than the one I was responding too and I partially agree; in chapter 139 both Eren and Armin are way too light on Eren having killed 80% of humanity, they are both just like "yeah nothing we can do about that now". Ideally there should have been another emotional breakdown focusing on Eren's genoicide. I still believe that him being regretful about not being able to spend time with Mikasa and his other friends makes sense as that's part of his character and has been foreshadowed eg. in ch130. Yes, it undermines his horrible crimes, but Eren is not a person with strong self-reflection, he's a selfish piece of shit.
Armin offering Eren a second chance at life doesn't magically remove the 13-year curse of Ymir.
Letting the allience kill him to end the curse is best course of action as it directly increases the lifespan of Armin, Reiner, Annie, Falco (and Historia and her children probably as well) by a great amount. He foresaw in his future memories that his friends would survive most of it so he was willing to take the risk.
I wouldn't call killing two people that murdered a little girls parents in front of her and wanted to rape the body in front of the kid murder. It's killing in defense of others.
The genocide in this video is worse than Eren's.
He is the same guy who loved code geass ending but said that this ending is good because peace wont last. I agree, but guess what, peace lasted in Code Geass. So that automatically means Code Geass ending is bad. So contradictory right there.
This is a dumb ass argument. If these endings were identical, one would still be bad, because all the events leading up to the identical reveal would make it so. But this does prove to me that you all lack the critical intelligence needed to debate anything, at least.
WarAmour Wow. Bold of you to assume that.
The end can not be 'killing the world and then everyone lives happily ever after', this kind of ending is impossible to be published as a phenomenal manga. IMO Isayama seems to have given up discussing the rationality of the rumbling and twisted the core of the story into a romance, probably he found he can't neither justify nor deny the rumbling reliably. Pooping on Eren's face is the easiest way to end this topic.
Eren has the reasons not to launch genocide if Isayama didn't want to. We saw Marley was also oppressing many others nations, which could be the allies of Paradis. But that needs tons of political scenarios to make sense, which probably beyond Isayama's ability. Meanwhile, the 'eternal ethnic hatred' and the existence of the Tybus family are clearly contradictory; in other words, this narrative can be dissolved. But building a new narrative after breaking the topic of 'Paradis vs world' is also complicated. Most importantly, Eren is not a character without empathy, we saw that many times. In the short, Isayama gives the foundations for a peaceful ending(not talk no jutsu) but quits and shits.
Exactly he choose to have eren to do the rumbling he choose to go this route if he didn't want to deal with this shit then he shouldn't have written it down in the first place if he wasn't a lazy fuck and go " the entire world is just Marley " which is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard and actually do some world building he wouldn't have to deal with this eren commits genocide nonsense he wrote himself into a corner, were it was ether erem commits genocide or he doesn't so he ends up with this half assed middle ground thats just stupid
@@thatoneblackdude3333 I can even accept shifting the conflict to the worm as deus ex machina but save the characters' development. If isayama did it and admit he can't figure out how to make peace in a realistic way, that would be fine for me. The problem is he probably realized that he fcked up yet keeps screwing 139. At its simplest, if isayama didn't want to ruin those peaks from earlier and create plot holes, then he shouldn't have written the plot like Eren kills his own mom (this bastard says his favorite chapter is BYSTANDER ) or push Armin to a hypocrite. That's not an honest story.
@@SQS-kt5uy if Ishyama didn't want to deal with this he should have not made the entire world racist and made ymir the final boss instead of eren consider all the bullshit eldians have gone through because of her " love" she might as well have at least then she'd have a role to play in the story instead of being a plot device.
@@thatoneblackdude3333 yep, and he can do it at many plot points, yet he didn't. He just kept moving forward until the whole series are destroyed.
@@SQS-kt5uy he kept play around with all these complex themes only for none of it to actually matter in the end lesson learned don't bite off more then you can chew
it's important to have a good principles and clear logical way of thinking than having thousands of subscribers, stories should be simple and clear not complex and vague.
Well Anime balls deep i guess is athentic in these kind of stuffs.They criticized the ending by explaining all garbage stuff of the plot in a whole 1 hour video. Like everyone they fan of Aot story too.
It's one main problem, Isayama drop all what he could in the ending, and ok, if you leave me alone think about it I can connect all the points and create a logical story, but it's not clear, he make a totally mess. Eren wanted: save his Friends, save Paradis, destroy everything, stop the war, literally choose what you prefer (one of AoTard tell me that I am wrong because Eren want to save his friends and he leave Paradis in such situation on purpose, but in chapter 131 he told that it's not another choise to save Eldia and Paradis, oh but I don't understand AoT...)
I'd like to tell you you're wrong, but you need to try to make this a little easier to comprehend.
41:42 bro this is exactly final fantasy 7's cloud and aerith. At least aerith ain't as pathetic as mikasa fr
You should check out the video “Eren is not a slave”… it’s bad too
These big UA-camrs are basically screaming "here guys,raid my comment section"
Always love the videos, but next time can you make their video a bit louder if you do another style of this vid
That time I got reincarnated as a bird
AYO WHEN THAT ZEKE VID DROPPING MY GUY??
i just cant wait until 138 of requiem
When does it come out?
@@rickchakraborty2087Never. The writer died.
26:15 shouldn't every eldian be of royal blood
I legit was like who is AnimeUproar, he must be a fool...and then I saw his avatar and I was NO W A Y! this guy is good, he has good takes, no my boah!
It's not that AnimeUproar is a bad anime reviewing channel. He have pretty goodd videos before. It's just that as a review channel who used to praise what needs to be praised and call out what is bad. AnimeUproar deep inside probably knows this ending is shit but he is kinda defending it so he doesn't lose subscribers which is disappointing.
Is it possible to increase the volume of the other video in these response videos before u upload them?
it is, I just did a poor job of handling the audio in this video. I was in a rush to make this as I'm going on vacation tomorrow morning. Next time will be better.
@@saintitchief i see. Hope it will be better next time
Any major public figure, through the poltical sphere or the entertainment world, automatically introduce themselves to public scrutiny. Especially if they make a living doing those two things.
Isayama is no different. If writes crap, he'll be criticized and rightfully so. If he writes a masterpiece, he'll be championed and righfully so.
Isayama is a multimillionaire. So, sorry if i dont have crocodile tears if he feels disrespected or not. However, I can bet you he dosent care about what people feel about him. If he really did than this ending would not have divided the entire fanbase into ship camps, and pro 139 or con 139 crowds. He chose the shipping crowd. A mostly toxic minority of the fanbase. So, thats even more enraging in itself. If couples were foreshadowed far better than other awesomely foreshadowed themes in AOT, than it would have been ok. Its trash, but a good business decision. Boruto even existing and thriving proves that.
Isayama was told he was an anti-semite because of his story regarding Marley and Eldians. He was told he was genocidal because of the character of Pyxis. Please tell me how that's rightfully so?
@@nachgeben Hes in the public domain with a world aclaimed manga that explores sensitive topics. Of course hes going to get people shouting screaming at him unwittingly at times. Hes still has a very large base that loves his work, but i dont criticise him for any of the mentioned things you presented. I criticize him for Final Plot point to ending the series being the weakest route he could have taken. Im sure hes focuaing more on the fanbase that loves his work over the ones that hate it. Hes fine.
wasn't ymir stabbed in the heart? i thought that if a titan shifter got stabbed in the heart then they wouldn't be able to regenerate whatsoever. ...idkkk i heard it from somewhere
I am speechless, the length these defenders go to 😧