Some of these guns are so fun and creative. It’s one of the main reasons I love this game so much. As soon as I get bored with one weapon/build/class, there’s so many other satisfying ways to play. It’s endlessly fun to me.
Tech 22 was the first gun I truly fell in love with for its near instant reload able to be used in between dodges without building for it, it’s mega fast fire rate, and insane crit potential w/ mobility of course. It’s also been great for refunded when I wanna focus on primary weapons. It’s what I use 90% of the time to this day, and I’m sad it took me so long to replace the MP60-R with its much slower reload and lower fire rate.
Agree with 90% of this but the reload speed is only alright. In comparison to other weapon its prolly in the better half but especially fighting on apoc, if you dont hit weak spots you need to reload before the enemy is dead (unless you build for the gun, ofcourse)
My favorites so far: Enigma- clears ads and mobs in N'Erud easily. Starshot- mini nuke great on bosses and elites. Nebula- great in Yaesha and Lossom for wiping out mobs especially with acid corrosion ring to stack damage over time. Rupture cannon and Cube gun are decent options as well.
@@MeatObelisk yeah. I was only using the Western with the Widowmaker so I could also take advantage of faster bolt action shots. Definitely not worth with a primary that has a large magazine.
You can forgo the rings by running extender on western classic for 2 extra shots and 15% reload speed. Top heavy is also not a bad mutator for it either. It takes advantage of the high base damage stat, and since your reloading a lot anyway, you’ll cycle to the top of your “magazine” frequently enough to make use of the damage bonus. Other than that, WC is just not worth it except for roleplaying. Edit: I forgot that I’ve used sleeper on it before as well. This is actually my favorite because it is basically a quick-draw play style. You unload all six shots for a bunch of crit damage onto a weakspot, then go back your primary weapon.
Amazing gun really. The ability to regen its own mod when using detonation trigger and stone of malevolence is really cool. Gives it a very distinct form of fire even without the mod.
@@ICASTFIREBALL979 Supply Ship event on N'erud. You have to activate all 5 of the supply containers on the overworld map before doing the Dark Conduit side area. Then when you call in the supplies, it will go grab them all and the 5th one is star shot.
I like how pretty much watching this blind, as I do not research builds or meta, basically every S-tier Handgun on your list are the ones I swap between, usually Starshot, Double Barrel, and Nebula. Special mention to the MP-60 because of it's versatility and huge ammo reserves and overall accuracy which makes it a great utility sidearm in situations where you're struggling with ammo and popping orbs/minions.
Rupture cannon carried me through my first like 20-30 hours it took out weak ads with one hit and didn’t have many good weapons with an open mod slot,definitely a good gun if you can get the dungeon it comes from to spawn early
@@colinfew6570 lol I find it on an unhealthy amount of my builds. I also just refuse to use weapons/items that I know are going to get the nerf hammer. Nebula and Monolith (Nano Swarm and Sandstorm more specifically) are almost certainly going to get killed. Not that I agree with that in a PVE dominant game but that is GFG’s way. Just can’t bring myself to go full on meta like this. Give me my MP60 with thousand cuts and abrasive/corrosive rounds or even flying bomb trap. Really hoping DLC3 brings crit back to a reasonable level. New fragment system should hopefully address that.
Great list. I just beat the Night Weaver in Apocalypse with Enigma. And she had elemental resist! I deleted my long weapon to avoid confusion and just kept pelting her with the Enigma weapon mod. I didn’t even have Arcon to generate mod power. A very satisfying victory.
Enigma is good not only for chain mechanic, shock itself is really good to say the least. Shock gives moderate stagger which will stop mobs and prevent combo hits. Mod is okay imo I tried mod focus build it did 500ish per tick.
The mod is really good with that ring that heals you on mod use. You have 6 charges, so you can pretty much always heal. And that ring is available from the start on hardcore (if you unlocked it), which made my hardcore run very easy :D
6:04 Thanks for reminding me about weapon. It's now my staple weapon, and it is brilliant when stacked with Energized Neck Coil, Shadow of Misery, Timekeepers Jewel and Red Ring of Death. The explosion damage from E. N. coil gives 20% of the status effect damage so and instant 450 damage every 5 seconds 😃
Heck once I got that I was only running it. You got some much out of it. Although it did require a decent amount of mod regen to get back which in the sequel isn't the case at all really.
I'm here to defend Anguish, while it's not particularly great at any single thing, it's a real jack of all trades, it's a shot with ricocheting slugs, it's a charge bow with explosion, it's a machine gun with exploding bullets, it does everything, put feedback on it and the machine gun (mod) recharges in like 2 charge shots, reload isn't to long and the explosions are great to crowd control. Getting a perfect charge is super easy, getting a great explosion out of it and pro-tip, using the mod automatically reloads anguish. It's a great gun that deserves a higher placement IMO. I'm using it on my 50% HP build and the drain isn't what kills me. It's a pain to get though, but AT LEAST it isn't hot garbage like the poly gun.
Not a popular opinion, but Enigma can also perform greatly while being used in tanky builds. Throw on a Spirit Healer mutator and you will be able to efficiently heal yourself and your party members using Enigma’s mod. Make the build a mod spam one and you can get near to infinite HP regen for the whole party.
Enigma works wonders on The Hatchery boss. Pop the mod and shoot a couple things at the ground and the rest on the floaters so while they circle the arena they constantly take damage. Lots of fun to see happen.
The Tech 22 does work. Survived some tough encounters with that as my sidearm but ran out of ammo a few to many times early on when I wasnt paying enough attention
All I run now is the bolt driver, corrupted rune, sawed off and starshot but I do run nebula on my melee builds. Enigma is great with the time wave mod, instant slow with one mod charge stick
Ya I tried timewave in the hatchery and it was more than useful. It lets you take out half of that bosses health before he leaves one time. Really strong mutator on Enigma in those situations.
@@ToveriJuri I haven't been on the game much to do crazy testing but I did jump on for a few minutes to see what was added in the last patch/update and put a few different things on the bolt driver but nothing seemed to make it feel any different. Kinda sucks, gun is strong just doesn't seem to be affected even by super charger. 8dl maybe it's just me though, I've been back on Destiny 2 for awhile now I've gotten everything in remnant 2
I do like Anguish a lot after having swapped out the Enigma for it without further tweaking my build to accomodate it. The charged shot is POWERFUL, able to 1 or 2-tap a lot of low-tier enemies, with the shotgun mode coming in clutch if something gets too close to use the charged shots. Agree the biggest issue is the potential to kill yourself with explosions and that it fits better on a build with health regen/lifesteal baked in (both make the drain when charging something you can ignore), but there is merits to a gun like it that can answer any situation you might encounter in a single package
I feel like a lot of the unremovable mod got basically nerfed into the ground when they removed mods charging mod use, and they never really changed the mods themselves to compensate for that. There are so many mods that take FOREVER to charge and then do basically nothing. That includes exchanagble boss mods.
Meridian is probably the most noticeable one since 5 charges actually hurts the mod regen. Your using the mod longer preventing damage from regening your mod back. Enigma has a lot of charges but the mod deals damage overtime to make up for it. So in the end those 5 charges end up being one or two that you are waiting on to get back constantly. Definitely odd.
@@SheenShots I was trying to use the heat seeking missiles mod Helix earlier and just one charge takes forever to refill, then it has a large slow projectile that is very likely to miss, and then more projectiles that will most likely hit a wall before an enemy. Just why.
Nebula mod can and will aggressively going for weakspot, and it's also a good mobbing tool because it always runs around player, it's so good that weapon itself isn't that important
They'll probably make some tweeks and balances to some of these guns, Anguish needs a bleed effect, the Service Pistol needs a bit of dmg boost, and the Western Classic needs a ricochet effect.
2:41 you can kind of get rid of the slight pause by waiting for your clip to be full then swap to your other gun shoot that untill you need to reload and then swap back to your handgun and repeat. Its a decent way to deal with the awkward reload.
Enigma is best used with the Bandit mutator, as it literally can't miss if you are in range, extending the 25 mag to 35 and beyond, being able to drop dozens of fodder enemies without having to reload.
The mutator's name is lithely, and is an actual word. It means moving gracefully. Edit: forgot to add, it drops from Barghest the vile in Losomn's Harvester's reach dungeon.
I like to believe in some future DLC we will have Ford Running around with a Corrupted Enigma as his weapon as he left traces of the one we own behind. Can't wait for next DLC and I really hope we get another Rogue Like mode at the end. That stuff was my main end game for so many hours in Remi 1 for the ALT color scheme armors Edit: #BUFF ANGUISH for the pain it takes and the fact it TAKES HP FROM YOU PER SHOT, it should be doing some crazyy dmg or at least weird effect but at the moment 😅
I think its pretty versatile. Good for aoe dmg, dmg overtime and u basically always have the weapon art if u use a ring that gives u weapon art energy when ur doing elemental dmg. Used it on my whole apo run and never felt that it was horrible or even mid
I used talisman of the sun for more burning damage. Paired with ritualist prime perk and the flamethrower from engineer and now your fire procs start to tick down the enemy health very noticeably. Add in sparkfire and star shot and now you are the sun melting everything and blasting everything in your path. Run talisman of the sun with ring of omens, gambler be the burden, the aheane ring for more status damage, and stone of malevolence. This combo keeps you blasting and burning things so long as you don’t burn out yourself 😂
You can replace the stone of malevolence with devoured loop or sapphire dream stone for more cooldown on abilities, although you might have to drop star shot and go something else that can apply fire still
I love the cube gun its one of my favs but hard to get the use for since any misses might send a cube or more way out for a long return, such a shame i realy wish there was some work arounds or more baked into to like a return on reload or something.
I was actually debating on whether I should get the Corrupted Meridian since I actually love GL's, but after this vid, you convinced me, I mean I CAN get the normal variant again ..but after I basically tortured myself to stay awake while I waited for the sewer to fill up, idk if I wanna go thru that again ETA: Ok so as soon as I saw this vid I fired up R2 and bought the gun, but apparently Dwell can also sell you the normal variants as well LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
Dwell revert to normal version he doesn't sell you it. Also once you start the sewer water event you're free to explore or even turn off the game and it'll fill up
Corrupted rune with extender when needed and the free 10% damage buff is just the go to for every DPS build that has a free pick for second slot. Just easy free real estate….
I like to use it with bulletweaver myself. Extender seems like a good idea too, but try bulletweaver for a bit if you haven't. I found you can use the weapon to great effect if you want to shoot it rather than your main gun.
Enigma with timeweave mutator is actually amazing. As you mentioned it does have a tonne of mod charges which means with a ritualist build (and the timekeeper's jewel) you can SLOW the FUCK out of the TRASH MOBS in Losomn
The main points just off of my head for now are: -Tech 22 got buffed -Rupture cannon got buffed Other than that the list is exactly the same but both these guns are now S tier top of the list items. Which tech already was. Sidarms didn't really get much with the 2nd DLC for some reason.
I have played way too much Remnant and I would have to strongly disagree with the position of the Service Pistol. It's accuracy combined with its fast and controllable rate of fire melts bosses if you can reliably target weak points. The open mod slot is great and its reload is surprisingly quick. The damage is decent when you get used to it too. It really shines when paired with the Gunslinger class.
If you want some LOLs, do a shock/fire rate trinket build with the MP60R with Overload Mod😂 thing just shits out bullets at an insane rate and deletes whatever you're pointing at(and whatever else is close to it)
Not too bad of a list but its visible on the lowest tier that you dont utilize guns on how they are used best. The 6 shot revolver is as useful as the Silverback, but in a different way for example
Its pretty darn handy if you get used to how it fires. Mainly the mod can work great against bosses and groups if you need a last resort kind of thing.
@@SheenShots it’s a good complement to my shotgun that I started with that comes with the challenger class. I’ve gotten merciless recently and want to upgrade it next. I’m newly level 10 and have the dog class leveling up now.
Do you perhaps have a full build guide video for that star shot weapon? I'm new to the game and didn't realize understand what was going on😂 also I don't have the dlc is that going to be a problem?
Can you have both the regular and corrupted version of a gun unlocked simultaneously, or do you have to keep swapping between one or the other at the npc in ward 13?
You can have both. You would just have to go get the normal one after you exchange it. For example, if you have merciless and turn it into the other one, then you go fight ravager again and you can have both.
10:08 I will this set up, I've got the shiny hog lure and the ingenuity mutator. But I'm intrigued about the corrupted cube gun so will level it up to max before I corrupt it 😃
Both are really cool ideas. Expanding build crafting options. Neither are the best in the game but I like the repair tool on engineer or support builds. And redeemer honestly has a lot of really unique options.
You're wrong, Anguish has one very important feature: It has an innate aura of command/authority that works on most players, especially the new-ish types who has perhaps seen a video like this one. In a coop game that actively tries to block communications between players, having the guys you dropped in to help/impress about 40% more likely to stop at junctions to see where you are going is at the very least sanity saving. But seriously though, did you know that Anguish's mod only takes 400 charge to fill? It fills up in maybe one good shot or a couple of melee hits, giving it functionally unlimited ammo from the mod. And since the small tiny explosions actually count as explosions, using it with blast trigger outputs some non-tragic damage, which if you consider that you can effectively forget about taking any ammo at all, warrants it a place at least above regular Meridian, surely. Otherwise, other than the small fact that the difference between S and F tier is very small and usually comes down to the cadence you're currently working with on your loadout, my experience tends to agree with everything stated in this tier list.
Its just outclassed heavily. Nebula is just Hellfire if it had a better damage type, way better mod, and worked with every single build possible. The close quarters problem is still not something you can shrug away (hence why all ranged melees are the better options) but the mod is its biggest downside. There are at least 8 other explosive mods that top in any day which also doesn't help.
The enigma has no use to me outside certain bosses mechanics where you need to shoot orbs fast. Other than that nothing comes close to the enigma/energized neck coil combo. Maybe starshot and detonation trigger combo but its special is not as strong nor as easy to use as the enigma’s.
Lithely. Increases reload speed with kills between reloads. Stacks up to 20%. Reloading while at max stacks (5) and you get 20% ranged damage bonus for 15 sec.
isn't anguish bugged currently where it's not scaling like it's supposed to? plus you don't have to charge anguish, you can just shoot it immediately and it's just a 5 round shotgun at that point.
Imo the ammo problems gets fixed when I use gunslinger (I haven’t tried all weapons yet so I might be very wrong) so I’m pretty sure you don’t need the void idol. Cause you already get the 50% ammo reserves from gunslinger, from my understanding gunslinger gets +50% from trait so you have 150% totals ammo with void idol 150% x 1.5 = 225% total ammo (is that correct or does remnant have spaghetti code?)
Yes gunslinger does fix the ammo problem on regular builds. This however is not the case when you are running your secondary as the main weapon. Handguns just don't get as much ammo and thus if you are trying to use only that as your main weapon they run out too quickly in boss fights. Hence the amulet to make it easier to use them all.
I absolutely love a enigma. I just spent the last 50 hours using it. But then I just switched to a new gun the nebula which I think is amazing however that range is absolutely horrifying only 8 m. Does anyone have any advice to fix this?
Here's a fun game. Count how many times I got HEARTY on the bosses in this video. The answer is... a lot lol.
it's manageable since you only have 2 modifiers :D
*_Regular Handguns_*
Bolt Driver 18:54
Double Barrel 18:04
MP60-R 10:51
Repeater Pistol 1:18 _Starting Weapon_
Rupture Cannon 6:52
Rusty Repeater 1:05 _Starting Weapon_
Service Pistol 1:48 _Starting Weapon_
Silverback Model 500 11:32 _Starting Weapon_
Sureshot 8:30
Tech 22 12:31 _Starting Weapon_
Western Classic 2:18 _Starting Weapon_
*_Special Handguns_*
Anguish 2:58
Corrupted Meridian 14:30
Corrupted Rune Pistol 13:22
Cube Gun 9:26
Enigma 19:52
Hellfire 6:00
Meridian 5:02
Nebula 16:53
Rune Pistol 4:19
Sorrow 7:41
Star Shot 15:38
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Some of these guns are so fun and creative. It’s one of the main reasons I love this game so much. As soon as I get bored with one weapon/build/class, there’s so many other satisfying ways to play. It’s endlessly fun to me.
Tech 22 was the first gun I truly fell in love with for its near instant reload able to be used in between dodges without building for it, it’s mega fast fire rate, and insane crit potential w/ mobility of course. It’s also been great for refunded when I wanna focus on primary weapons. It’s what I use 90% of the time to this day, and I’m sad it took me so long to replace the MP60-R with its much slower reload and lower fire rate.
Agree with 90% of this but the reload speed is only alright. In comparison to other weapon its prolly in the better half but especially fighting on apoc, if you dont hit weak spots you need to reload before the enemy is dead (unless you build for the gun, ofcourse)
The reload speed is bonkers. You need to reload and dodge in the middle of it. The gun will be reloaded when you stand back up. @@zackfoster3208
My favorites so far: Enigma- clears ads and mobs in N'Erud easily. Starshot- mini nuke great on bosses and elites. Nebula- great in Yaesha and Lossom for wiping out mobs especially with acid corrosion ring to stack damage over time. Rupture cannon and Cube gun are decent options as well.
The Western classic is one of those weapons you just NEED to run one or 2 of the stacking reload speed rings on.
In would definitely agree that reload is the weakest aspect of the gun.
i dont wanna sound mean but if youre wasting two of your rings on a revolver play another game.
@@MeatObelisk yeah. I was only using the Western with the Widowmaker so I could also take advantage of faster bolt action shots.
Definitely not worth with a primary that has a large magazine.
You can forgo the rings by running extender on western classic for 2 extra shots and 15% reload speed. Top heavy is also not a bad mutator for it either. It takes advantage of the high base damage stat, and since your reloading a lot anyway, you’ll cycle to the top of your “magazine” frequently enough to make use of the damage bonus. Other than that, WC is just not worth it except for roleplaying.
Edit: I forgot that I’ve used sleeper on it before as well. This is actually my favorite because it is basically a quick-draw play style. You unload all six shots for a bunch of crit damage onto a weakspot, then go back your primary weapon.
@@MeatObeliskIt pairs well with Coach Gun or Sporebloom Primary because you have to reload anyways on those
Great stuff.
I'd love you could do a 5 favorite builds video. It's so hard to keep track of what is current with all the patches and changes.
the Enigma is just too easy to use as a mob-clear weapon. It's literally fire-and-forget. Makes it hard to pick any other side-arm over it
Fun gun but sometimes MP60 is better.
@@simmo303I just can't not use mp60 with a fire tornado and the ring of malevolence for infinite mod Regen
Star Shot getting the love it deserves, nice.
Amazing gun really. The ability to regen its own mod when using detonation trigger and stone of malevolence is really cool. Gives it a very distinct form of fire even without the mod.
how do you get the starshot????
Tbh the lore is fucking sick too. It's name is very literal, you're shooting miniature stars
@@ICASTFIREBALL979 with quite a degree of effort lmao, decent sized side quest, look up a guide
@@ICASTFIREBALL979 Supply Ship event on N'erud. You have to activate all 5 of the supply containers on the overworld map before doing the Dark Conduit side area. Then when you call in the supplies, it will go grab them all and the 5th one is star shot.
I like how pretty much watching this blind, as I do not research builds or meta, basically every S-tier Handgun on your list are the ones I swap between, usually Starshot, Double Barrel, and Nebula. Special mention to the MP-60 because of it's versatility and huge ammo reserves and overall accuracy which makes it a great utility sidearm in situations where you're struggling with ammo and popping orbs/minions.
Rupture cannon carried me through my first like 20-30 hours it took out weak ads with one hit and didn’t have many good weapons with an open mod slot,definitely a good gun if you can get the dungeon it comes from to spawn early
Anguish was made in mind of players being in anguish, it sucks but takes for ever to actually unlock so players get anguish both gun and feeling XD
I just can’t put down the mp60 lol. Reminds me of an MP7 and with corrosive rounds and twisted wounds it’s just 👌🏻
Same here. But I recently started using momentum and making crit build with probability cord and zanias malice. Shreds bosses and adds
mp60 gang! It just gets it done.
@@colinfew6570 lol I find it on an unhealthy amount of my builds. I also just refuse to use weapons/items that I know are going to get the nerf hammer. Nebula and Monolith (Nano Swarm and Sandstorm more specifically) are almost certainly going to get killed. Not that I agree with that in a PVE dominant game but that is GFG’s way.
Just can’t bring myself to go full on meta like this. Give me my MP60 with thousand cuts and abrasive/corrosive
rounds or even flying bomb trap.
Really hoping DLC3 brings crit back to a reasonable level. New fragment system should hopefully address that.
Great list. I just beat the Night Weaver in Apocalypse with Enigma. And she had elemental resist! I deleted my long weapon to avoid confusion and just kept pelting her with the Enigma weapon mod. I didn’t even have Arcon to generate mod power. A very satisfying victory.
when i first found the rapture cannon the first thing that popped into my head was this is the defiler from the first game but with open mod slots.
Although the Defiler has faster reload speed compared to the Rupture Cannon
Enigma is good not only for chain mechanic, shock itself is really good to say the least. Shock gives moderate stagger which will stop mobs and prevent combo hits. Mod is okay imo I tried mod focus build it did 500ish per tick.
The mod is really good with that ring that heals you on mod use. You have 6 charges, so you can pretty much always heal. And that ring is available from the start on hardcore (if you unlocked it), which made my hardcore run very easy :D
6:04 Thanks for reminding me about weapon. It's now my staple weapon, and it is brilliant when stacked with Energized Neck Coil, Shadow of Misery, Timekeepers Jewel and Red Ring of Death. The explosion damage from E. N. coil gives 20% of the status effect damage so and instant 450 damage every 5 seconds 😃
I miss having that hive mod on any gun . I was a beast with that corrosive damage
Heck once I got that I was only running it. You got some much out of it. Although it did require a decent amount of mod regen to get back which in the sequel isn't the case at all really.
I'm here to defend Anguish, while it's not particularly great at any single thing, it's a real jack of all trades, it's a shot with ricocheting slugs, it's a charge bow with explosion, it's a machine gun with exploding bullets, it does everything, put feedback on it and the machine gun (mod) recharges in like 2 charge shots, reload isn't to long and the explosions are great to crowd control. Getting a perfect charge is super easy, getting a great explosion out of it and pro-tip, using the mod automatically reloads anguish. It's a great gun that deserves a higher placement IMO.
I'm using it on my 50% HP build and the drain isn't what kills me. It's a pain to get though, but AT LEAST it isn't hot garbage like the poly gun.
I will not tolerate the disrespect for the western classic!
Not a popular opinion, but Enigma can also perform greatly while being used in tanky builds. Throw on a Spirit Healer mutator and you will be able to efficiently heal yourself and your party members using Enigma’s mod.
Make the build a mod spam one and you can get near to infinite HP regen for the whole party.
Enigma works wonders on The Hatchery boss. Pop the mod and shoot a couple things at the ground and the rest on the floaters so while they circle the arena they constantly take damage. Lots of fun to see happen.
The Tech 22 does work. Survived some tough encounters with that as my sidearm but ran out of ammo a few to many times early on when I wasnt paying enough attention
All I run now is the bolt driver, corrupted rune, sawed off and starshot but I do run nebula on my melee builds. Enigma is great with the time wave mod, instant slow with one mod charge stick
Ya I tried timewave in the hatchery and it was more than useful. It lets you take out half of that bosses health before he leaves one time. Really strong mutator on Enigma in those situations.
What about now that sequenced shot is nerfed?
@@ToveriJuri I haven't been on the game much to do crazy testing but I did jump on for a few minutes to see what was added in the last patch/update and put a few different things on the bolt driver but nothing seemed to make it feel any different. Kinda sucks, gun is strong just doesn't seem to be affected even by super charger. 8dl maybe it's just me though, I've been back on Destiny 2 for awhile now I've gotten everything in remnant 2
@@jungillestt02
Odd Sequenced shot went from the bugged 90% to the intended 35% which is significantly slower.
@@ToveriJuri yeah I know, it doesn't feel like it does anything now to be honest given it was so insane before
I do like Anguish a lot after having swapped out the Enigma for it without further tweaking my build to accomodate it. The charged shot is POWERFUL, able to 1 or 2-tap a lot of low-tier enemies, with the shotgun mode coming in clutch if something gets too close to use the charged shots. Agree the biggest issue is the potential to kill yourself with explosions and that it fits better on a build with health regen/lifesteal baked in (both make the drain when charging something you can ignore), but there is merits to a gun like it that can answer any situation you might encounter in a single package
I am really liking Hotshot, Rupture cannon and Enigma. Nebula is also great crowd AOE control and then switch to fast long gun.
I feel like a lot of the unremovable mod got basically nerfed into the ground when they removed mods charging mod use, and they never really changed the mods themselves to compensate for that.
There are so many mods that take FOREVER to charge and then do basically nothing.
That includes exchanagble boss mods.
Meridian is probably the most noticeable one since 5 charges actually hurts the mod regen. Your using the mod longer preventing damage from regening your mod back. Enigma has a lot of charges but the mod deals damage overtime to make up for it. So in the end those 5 charges end up being one or two that you are waiting on to get back constantly. Definitely odd.
@@SheenShots I was trying to use the heat seeking missiles mod Helix earlier and just one charge takes forever to refill, then it has a large slow projectile that is very likely to miss, and then more projectiles that will most likely hit a wall before an enemy.
Just why.
in my first playthrough i playd the cube gune when i got it and after finding nebula i kept it throughout the whole game
Ive been looking for an excuse to run the silverback..pushed me over the edge.. really good watch..thank you
I ran my silverback with witchfire and the explosive swap mutator. It's the exact same set up I'm using with the western classic on my cowboy build.
After coming over from Destiny 2, the comment about the silverback really sold me! Lol
Nebula mod can and will aggressively going for weakspot, and it's also a good mobbing tool because it always runs around player, it's so good that weapon itself isn't that important
Fun fact- enigma is starting weapon for Archon class. I love it. Hotshot and Nebula fun as well.
What the f is fun in a weapon what aim automatic and damage 3-4 enemy at same time. Without any skill
They'll probably make some tweeks and balances to some of these guns, Anguish needs a bleed effect, the Service Pistol needs a bit of dmg boost, and the Western Classic needs a ricochet effect.
2:41 you can kind of get rid of the slight pause by waiting for your clip to be full then swap to your other gun shoot that untill you need to reload and then swap back to your handgun and repeat. Its a decent way to deal with the awkward reload.
I really like the service pistol just because it looks neat and sounds great
Going to have to look into the bolt driver combo tbh.
tech 22 and cubic gun are my go to options. Love infinite ammo.
Bro you did NOT have to go THAT HARD on Anguish 🤣☠️🤣☠️. That review felt Personal lmao
The more damage you absorb with cube gun’s shield, the more damage it will do when fired from the gun. It also still acts as a shield from projectiles
Starter smg with fetid wounds and overload weapon mod is mint btw
Enigma is best used with the Bandit mutator, as it literally can't miss if you are in range, extending the 25 mag to 35 and beyond, being able to drop dozens of fodder enemies without having to reload.
do an archetype tier list
Hey sheen shot awesome video btw , im struggling to find the mutator you were talking about on the Enigma. Thanks again pal 👍
Me too. Cannot find it via google either.
@@timverkoyen8742 from his pronunciation i think its lithely remnant2.wiki.fextralife.com/Lithely
but i am not 100% sure
The mutator's name is lithely, and is an actual word. It means moving gracefully.
Edit: forgot to add, it drops from Barghest the vile in Losomn's Harvester's reach dungeon.
I like to believe in some future DLC we will have Ford Running around with a Corrupted Enigma as his weapon as he left traces of the one we own behind. Can't wait for next DLC and I really hope we get another Rogue Like mode at the end. That stuff was my main end game for so many hours in Remi 1 for the ALT color scheme armors
Edit: #BUFF ANGUISH for the pain it takes and the fact it TAKES HP FROM YOU PER SHOT, it should be doing some crazyy dmg or at least weird effect but at the moment 😅
DLC has limitless potential at this point. Definitely very exciting.
The enigma is good at times but horrible at others
I think its pretty versatile. Good for aoe dmg, dmg overtime and u basically always have the weapon art if u use a ring that gives u weapon art energy when ur doing elemental dmg. Used it on my whole apo run and never felt that it was horrible or even mid
Yeah if you don't have a good long range primary then it's really detrimental.
I prefer to have the 22 or the Sniper handgun.
I can’t stop using it lmao, it’s wayyyy too viable for me to apply overload
Max out the AOE range trait to increase its range.
@@SnowX206how do you get the aoe range trait? I got the Aoe size trait but not the range trait
I used talisman of the sun for more burning damage. Paired with ritualist prime perk and the flamethrower from engineer and now your fire procs start to tick down the enemy health very noticeably. Add in sparkfire and star shot and now you are the sun melting everything and blasting everything in your path. Run talisman of the sun with ring of omens, gambler be the burden, the aheane ring for more status damage, and stone of malevolence. This combo keeps you blasting and burning things so long as you don’t burn out yourself 😂
You can replace the stone of malevolence with devoured loop or sapphire dream stone for more cooldown on abilities, although you might have to drop star shot and go something else that can apply fire still
Awesome!! I got it just Starshot now 😃 I wonder if they have patched it out though on the other days patch
Nice vídeo man, thanks
you and chaos turned me on to the tech 22 in your stream the other day, haven’t used the mp60 since 😅.
Really helpfull guides 👍
I love the cube gun its one of my favs but hard to get the use for since any misses might send a cube or more way out for a long return, such a shame i realy wish there was some work arounds or more baked into to like a return on reload or something.
I was actually debating on whether I should get the Corrupted Meridian since I actually love GL's, but after this vid, you convinced me, I mean I CAN get the normal variant again ..but after I basically tortured myself to stay awake while I waited for the sewer to fill up, idk if I wanna go thru that again
ETA: Ok so as soon as I saw this vid I fired up R2 and bought the gun, but apparently Dwell can also sell you the normal variants as well
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
Dwell revert to normal version he doesn't sell you it. Also once you start the sewer water event you're free to explore or even turn off the game and it'll fill up
been watching your guides. keep posting bro thank you
I use Enigma’s mod like a rifle-style alternate file. So I pop it on stationary distant enemies without expending primary ammo.
I think imma cube head. Up close it puts in work and the mod is cracked at range
the cheese pistol takes some beating. You may know it as Enigma.
Corrupted rune with extender when needed and the free 10% damage buff is just the go to for every DPS build that has a free pick for second slot. Just easy free real estate….
I like to use it with bulletweaver myself. Extender seems like a good idea too, but try bulletweaver for a bit if you haven't. I found you can use the weapon to great effect if you want to shoot it rather than your main gun.
Enigma with timeweave mutator is actually amazing. As you mentioned it does have a tonne of mod charges which means with a ritualist build (and the timekeeper's jewel) you can SLOW the FUCK out of the TRASH MOBS in Losomn
Man we need a quick recap on this list after forgotten kingdom)
The main points just off of my head for now are:
-Tech 22 got buffed
-Rupture cannon got buffed
Other than that the list is exactly the same but both these guns are now S tier top of the list items. Which tech already was. Sidarms didn't really get much with the 2nd DLC for some reason.
@@SheenShots appreciate it 🤜🤛
I love the cube gun. I jus find it so fun
Melee tier list now lul
Rupture Cannon at C tier is crazy
I have played way too much Remnant and I would have to strongly disagree with the position of the Service Pistol. It's accuracy combined with its fast and controllable rate of fire melts bosses if you can reliably target weak points. The open mod slot is great and its reload is surprisingly quick. The damage is decent when you get used to it too. It really shines when paired with the Gunslinger class.
Nice, i just finished the long gun video before lol
Do you think you'll ever do a video on specific Outward quests we shouldn't miss, or general faction guides?
I like running bandit with the double barrel because gambling and getting 8 shots in one mag is funny
If you want some LOLs, do a shock/fire rate trinket build with the MP60R with Overload Mod😂 thing just shits out bullets at an insane rate and deletes whatever you're pointing at(and whatever else is close to it)
Try it with the bolt driver. Throw on overload, and supercharger or sequenced shot as the mutator. It is really fun lol
@@SheenShots I'll check it out! Haven't used it too much so far so should be fun experimenting with it lol
Not too bad of a list but its visible on the lowest tier that you dont utilize guns on how they are used best. The 6 shot revolver is as useful as the Silverback, but in a different way for example
I’ve found the sorrow early on. Kinda hard to not use it. Range is a beast on it
Its pretty darn handy if you get used to how it fires. Mainly the mod can work great against bosses and groups if you need a last resort kind of thing.
@@SheenShots it’s a good complement to my shotgun that I started with that comes with the challenger class. I’ve gotten merciless recently and want to upgrade it next. I’m newly level 10 and have the dog class leveling up now.
Would the cube gun be a good choice for corrupting or no?
Do you perhaps have a full build guide video for that star shot weapon? I'm new to the game and didn't realize understand what was going on😂 also I don't have the dlc is that going to be a problem?
Can you have both the regular and corrupted version of a gun unlocked simultaneously, or do you have to keep swapping between one or the other at the npc in ward 13?
You can have both. You would just have to go get the normal one after you exchange it. For example, if you have merciless and turn it into the other one, then you go fight ravager again and you can have both.
@@guardianwolf6667 Thanks for the info! :)
20:07 - On the Enigma mutator, what mutator did you mention? I can't quite make it out and am rather new to the game. Thanks!
He said lithely. I had to look it up.
Why would you want to place the lightning rods from enigma all over a boss as opposed to grouped together on a weakspot?
I kinda disagree on the hellfire assessment. The grenade hits like a truck and is great to kick off a fight. It absolutely shreds regular enemies too.
can you do a mods teirlist?
Oh is it me you haven't featured corrupted cube gun? No worries if not 😊
Wish they kept the hellfire gun the same as it was in the 1st game. Was my fav weapon, don’t care for it now.
Everything you just said, is more accurate than you can even imagine lol. The gun is pretty mid now and it was awesome in the first one.
10:08 I will this set up, I've got the shiny hog lure and the ingenuity mutator. But I'm intrigued about the corrupted cube gun so will level it up to max before I corrupt it 😃
Omg why didn't I try shiny hog lure😢
what mutator on enigma?
Did you ever figure it out? I think he says Lithely
@@ingemi0219 yeah it was thanks
Enigma is always going to be the best secondary no doubt about that
Bad side about it it doesn’t register the damage sometimes
I miss the Hellfire from the first game 😢
Seeing you still responding to the comments, what's your take on the repair tool and redeemer?
Both are really cool ideas. Expanding build crafting options. Neither are the best in the game but I like the repair tool on engineer or support builds. And redeemer honestly has a lot of really unique options.
Has anyone ever told you, you sound remarkably like @YammyNoob on youtube
You're wrong, Anguish has one very important feature: It has an innate aura of command/authority that works on most players, especially the new-ish types who has perhaps seen a video like this one. In a coop game that actively tries to block communications between players, having the guys you dropped in to help/impress about 40% more likely to stop at junctions to see where you are going is at the very least sanity saving.
But seriously though, did you know that Anguish's mod only takes 400 charge to fill? It fills up in maybe one good shot or a couple of melee hits, giving it functionally unlimited ammo from the mod. And since the small tiny explosions actually count as explosions, using it with blast trigger outputs some non-tragic damage, which if you consider that you can effectively forget about taking any ammo at all, warrants it a place at least above regular Meridian, surely.
Otherwise, other than the small fact that the difference between S and F tier is very small and usually comes down to the cadence you're currently working with on your loadout, my experience tends to agree with everything stated in this tier list.
I use the cube gun all the time on weaker enemies to save on ammo.
D tier for Hellfire is crazy
its like saying all melee builds are D tier because they only attack in close combat lol
Its just outclassed heavily. Nebula is just Hellfire if it had a better damage type, way better mod, and worked with every single build possible. The close quarters problem is still not something you can shrug away (hence why all ranged melees are the better options) but the mod is its biggest downside. There are at least 8 other explosive mods that top in any day which also doesn't help.
star shot is fire
babe wake up new sheenshots
The enigma has no use to me outside certain bosses mechanics where you need to shoot orbs fast.
Other than that nothing comes close to the enigma/energized neck coil combo.
Maybe starshot and detonation trigger combo but its special is not as strong nor as easy to use as the enigma’s.
What mutator did you put on the egnigma?
Lithely. Increases reload speed with kills between reloads. Stacks up to 20%. Reloading while at max stacks (5) and you get 20% ranged damage bonus for 15 sec.
@@NewMexiCard thank you so much
Cube gun is S tier omg
isn't anguish bugged currently where it's not scaling like it's supposed to? plus you don't have to charge anguish, you can just shoot it immediately and it's just a 5 round shotgun at that point.
Imo the ammo problems gets fixed when I use gunslinger (I haven’t tried all weapons yet so I might be very wrong) so I’m pretty sure you don’t need the void idol. Cause you already get the 50% ammo reserves from gunslinger, from my understanding gunslinger gets +50% from trait so you have 150% totals ammo with void idol 150% x 1.5 = 225% total ammo (is that correct or does remnant have spaghetti code?)
Yes gunslinger does fix the ammo problem on regular builds. This however is not the case when you are running your secondary as the main weapon. Handguns just don't get as much ammo and thus if you are trying to use only that as your main weapon they run out too quickly in boss fights. Hence the amulet to make it easier to use them all.
Is there a list with mutator mod combo
6:39 Cool! I've just seen this is in Root Earth
Song of Eafir for silverback model 500? what?
I don't have the mod but I don't get it why...
The look. When placed on that weapon it becomes a hand cannon from destiny.
18:16 It's also fun to fire and has a nice sound 😃
I absolutely love a enigma. I just spent the last 50 hours using it. But then I just switched to a new gun the nebula which I think is amazing however that range is absolutely horrifying only 8 m. Does anyone have any advice to fix this?