WHY I STOPPED TAKING METFORMIN! And Switched To Berberine [2023]
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- Here's the latest news on Metformin and on Berberine. I share my experience with both and I also share why I decided to quit taking Metformin and instead, switch over to Berberine.
It's been 2 years since I updated Metformin or Berberine. Yikes! Time to do an update. In the last video, I was kinda on the fence about which to do, or taking both. Now that I've got experience with both, I share my thoughts on each and explain why I tried one, quit, and then tried the other.
And that's where I'm going to stay. For now.
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thanks for making this video about metformin. hope you live long and in good health.
Good video, Lance. Clear, concise, and informative.
Thanks, Karl. I appreciate that.
Great info. Please keep me informed on your course!
Enrollment for the course is now open. Go here for more info: lancehitchings.com/intro-to-longevity-vsl-01
Good stuff thanks Lance.
Nicely done sir. Bring on those courses!
On it!
Great, so many similar channels have annoying background music and annoying memes, this channel's lack of those is reason enough for me to stick around, as well as being well into middle age and needing to try to stay/get healthy. Happy to find your channel .
If you don't like annoying background music, stay away from my early videos. Just sayin". 😂
I also had the same experience with Metformin. I was taking a B complex supplement but I still had zero energy to workout. So I stopped after 2 months. 1 week later I was exercising again.
Hi Lance, great video mate!
I'm giving Metformin a few more months to see if it controls my A1c, if not, I'm switching back to Berneribe.
Good luck with the launch of your online course 🙏
Hey Vince- Good to hear from you. Thanks, the course is launching on 12 May...I think. Yeah, I just couldn't handle all the negative side effects.
Now that a few months have passed, can you comment on your A1c?
Happy for you. I too have mild GI distress on Metformin. I've been taking it since 2016. I already have e neuropathy and Metformin -can- inhibit the absorption of B6 and B12, both of which can cause neuropathy or make an existing neuropathy worse IF deficient. So I stopped taking Metformin and started Inositol AND Berberine. My fasting glucose has risen from an average of 6.6 to 8.0. I have not changed anything in my minimal carb (
So good to see you back Lance! :) Glad you are doing well and going forward. Looking forward to learn more about your course on longevity. I wonder if you have tried GDF11 yet.
I haven't tried GDF-11 yet. Still thinking about it. I can afford the peptide, but I can't afford Steve Perry's protocol. I'm doing a video on several other peptides in the next month or so.
@@LanceHitchings Dr. Brad Stanfield hasnt had much good to say about Berberine now. I take it for blood sugar and Diabetes type 2 prevention. He is saying that is not that great for it since the body has a hard time absorbing it. Mentioning Berberine is mainly good for cholesterol reduction.
@@Danny-mg1hu I'm aware. He's also down on intermittent fasting. I think he's wrong, about both, but that's just me.
@@LanceHitchings i dont see how two MDs can get two different opinions on it. i thought the data is what you arrive to give a factual conclusion. i just hope im not wasting my money on Berberine. it is good news though that people are commenting that Berberine is helping them with their issues with blood sugar and other things despite the new findings that he just brought.
I haven’t listened as you posted 13 seconds ago. But this is serendipitous!!! I just decided to do exactly that . I liked many things about Met but it ruined my life - no more B 12 despite supplement. Lost All My muscles - even I lost weight that’s pointless. And I lost my brain and sanity.
Just me, but that’s my N=1!
Great video, thank you!
Wich dose are you taking?
INteresting info.. question What was your A1C on Met and A1C on Berberine? And affect on ED?
Thank you for your research. The Metformin debate rages on, but I'm glad you stopped. It seemed to me that your muscles went into decline a bit. You look yourself again! Welcome back!
Thanks, I appreciate that. Part of that was because I had 3 injuries in a row and had to stop exercising. But I'm back!
@@LanceHitchings Do you have a supplement protocol for muscle/injury recovery? Have you researched red light therapy, bio charger, PEMF? I wasn't familar with these recovery modalities until I joined Osteo-Strong. Those were all so helpful for recovery and injuries if you can find a place to try these along with ice baths, sauna, and the like.
I see big improvement with your voice - it sounds much younger than before.
I've been hearing that.
@@LanceHitchingslol. I just found you tonight and commented on another video that you sound like Casey Kasem.
Berberine user for a year. Along with everything else, in the best shape of my life at 43. Haven't been to the doctor for over 10 years.
wow! I can't believe RMI prescribed berberine. You said they recommended Metformin....Amazing! you're flipflopping!
Not flip-flopping at all. Tried metformin, didn't like the side-effects so I requested berberine. And RMI didn't prescribe berberine so much as they simple shipped it to me with all the other supplements that they provide as part of their service.
I just heard about c60 in olive oil today. I first thought of you and wondered if you had heard anything about it?
Thnx Lance, for your honest info. Did you ever publish a list of supplements that you personally take? Just asking.
Yes, I did. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/pOQGb_dvVB0/v-deo.html However, that video is almost 2 and a half years old, so it's outta date.
@@LanceHitchings could be interesting to show what has been added and taken out, isn’t it?
Interesting news
I use it at night the day before I do a fast. To get me into ketosis/autophagy as soon as possible in the morning.
Interesting. Do you use spermadine as well?
@@LanceHitchings what is spermadine?
@@seekinganhonestpolitician Spermadine is a polyamine produced in our bodies that promotes autophagy without fasting. It's also available as a supplement. I did a video on it: ua-cam.com/video/KpnW7TJ_sFM/v-deo.html
Can we compare new GLP-1 meds like Ozempic/Wegovy(Semaglutide) / Mounjaro(Tirzepatide) to Berberine? Also, Yerba Mate is a natural GLP-1. Would be fun to hear your research and thoughts on.
I have been on Metformin for years, and recently added Ozempic Ozempic made me sick , so I stopped. Today I tried Berberine at night and it drove my sugar down to 69 . So I think I will stop Metformin and only try Berberine.
I can relate to the gastro/runs when first taking Metformine, I was fine after a few weeks. I have been taking Metformine for about 10 years.
I experienced similar things with Metformin, going up staircases seemed bit more of a challenge. It upset my stomach too causing nausea. Berberine side effects not sure, but affects the liver I have heard
It decreases hepatic glucose output
(And so does Metformin) I use Berberine, Just in case I also take Milk Thistle. Personally I'll trust nature long before some manmade chemical.
@thethecommander which brand are you using and how you take it ? Do you have a rest time taking it ?
What dose of metformin vs Berberine were you taking. Could your side effects be related to dosage?
Great video! What dose do you take? Also, brand - do you take the donotage brand or do you prefer something with it to help absorb better or maybe liposomal? I need it to control my insulin resistance more than longevity. Thanks!
I prefer Renue by Science's liposomal berberine. There's a discount code in the description.
Hi I previously took metformin for 2 months for purely anti aging effect but noticed alot of muscle mass decrease so stop taking it. Ive been thinking about berberbine but very little studies on internet on how it affects exercise and muscle mass etc..if you google it internet says its the same effect on mtor which means loss of muscle mass when working out at gym. Whats your take on this, very little data about it?
Thoughts on Dihydroberbrine? Supposedly no side effects like headaches and stomach issues.
just found your channel today. Outstanding work, thank you. I recently had bloodwork, I suspect doc will recommend metformin because I believe I'm starting to develop insulin resistance, but I wanted to do some research before meeting with her next month, and this video is great for that! My fasting glucose is high (97) and a1c is also high at 5.9. My experience confirms that I likely have insulin resistance, very tired in the morning (although I'm sure my age is a factor, I'm 73). Really good to hear you describe the benefits and side effects of metformin and berberine. I'm inclined to go with berberine, probably start out small dose, 3 or 4 times daily.
Stay off the meds it's just about getting you on drugs. It's all about the money and getting you on more pharmacals. Peace
@@theruzzmon1066 that's my thinking too. I'm now taking about 400 to 600mg per day of berberine. We'll see what kind of results I get over time. I won't do metformin because of the way it interferes with the training effect and/or the benefits of exercise per this video.
97 fasting level is great. A 5.9 A1C isn't anything to worry about. You're doing fine.
What about the 2009 study stating "Berberine promotes the development of atherosclerosis in APOE deficient mice"? I don't want to brush it off because it was done on mice. I have also seen studies about berberine causing DNA damage. Seeing things like this made me discontinue berberine.
Awesome vid! My understanding is that absorption is a challenge with Berberine. Liposomal delivery seems to make a lot of sense. I know that Renue By Science (formerly Alive By Science) makes a Lipo formula... Any experience or thoughts about it? Also, I understand that Lipo formulations can circulate in the blood longer... which could be either a good or bad thing, I guess.
Yeah, I'm finishing up the Berberine that RMI gave me and I've just ordered the Liposomal Berberine from Renue By Science. I'll let you know more after I've done it for while.
@@LanceHitchings Sweet - looking forward to that! I think the advent of 'real-time glucose monitors' could really provide a powerful A/B test regarding efficacy. Very interested in whatever you find. I was able to get Metformin prescribed for off-label use (and don't suffer all the intestinal discomfort) but feel ~awkward about taking it given all the recent controversy. Thanks for what you do, Lance. Really nice to have you back! ;)
@@LanceHitchings I hear quercetin increases berberine absorption. and bromelain helps with quercetin absorption
I’m hearing that Dihydroberberine has much better absorption, no side effects, & better performance.
@@dianesullivan5521 I just ordered some of that..hope it works..
at 9:23 the paper says it was accepted in 16 days, showing a very thorough peer review process. Probably the paper was very convincing and well written but it could also be published in a predatory journal. Unfortunately these days if ever, a published paper does not mean its a good research.
i start using berberine a month ago so far so good.
Do you have a link to the berberine you currently take?
I also changed metformine into Berberine and I totally agree!
What brand for Berberine do you take? Thank you very much.
@Lance Hitchings What is the difference between berberine vs dihydroberberine? Thank you!
Dihydroberberine is simply another version that's supposed to be more bioavailable. I'm currently using liposomal berberine from Renue by Science for bioavailabity.
thanks buddy. will do same.
Any time
Lance, is it safe to take berberine while taking Metformin? I had to start taking Metformin a couple months ago because I have Type 2 diabetes, and I haven't been disciplined enough with my diet. I'm not having any issues taking Metformin, I just hate taking medications. And is there a particular brand and/or dosage you recommend? Also, any thoughts on dihydroberberine? Thanks so much!
Yes, if you can tolerate it, it's safe to take both. Dihydroberberine is just a form of berberine that is more bioavailable. I like Renue By Science's products. Or DoNotAge.
@@LanceHitchings great...thank you!
Dihydroberberine Dosage to replace metformin 500mg-0-500mg
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wondering your thoughts ... my Dr took me off Metformin and put me on Trulicity and i'm also taking Berberine.
What do you think of carnosine?
I am also switching, but I keep Jardiance because it's actually working for me
Your voice sounds younger than a couple years ago so whatever you're doing has definitely had an impact on your health.
Thanks. It's so hard to be objective about my own voice.
Hello, thanks for the informative video. I am 34 and my fasting blood sugar level is 102 (a little higher than normal). It seems that I might be a little insulin resistant. Is that okay if I take Berberine for 3 months to deal with insulin resistance?
have them check your A1c to determine insulin resistance. a fasting blood glucose is only 1 piece of the puzzle. people who are fit can have high fasted blood sugars d/t elevated cortisol. and bc yours is borderline, it is really not a reliable determinant of insulin resistance. - btw I am a nurse
I couldn't dare leave the house for 2 weeks on Metformin. Explosive diorea, as well as several other of the known side effects .
What brand of Berberine do YOU take? Please list it.
Thanks
Welcome
Metformin is only available on a prescription in the EU, so i didn’t get to test it. But I’ve been taking Berberine for a few months, without any negative effects. Difficult to talk about the positive ones, as i also take NMN and a few other supplements, but i think, together with apple cider vinegar, Berberine helps keep blood sugar low, and my insulin is about the lowest limit, according to my last couple of blood tests, so that’s a very good marker. Safe and cheap, i do take some liver protecting pills such as milk thistle.
What were your readings before you got on to Berberine? What were you readings when you stopped Metforming and after you used Berberine.
@@408Magenta I thought it was clear I wrote that Metformin is NOT available over the counter in Europe, so I did NOT take it. I use Berberine to control my blood sugar, as there was diabetes in my close family. My blood A1c is 5.4, same as it was 2 years ago. My insulin is less than 2 UI/ mL, so the effective value was not picked up by the test, as the range goes from 2 to 29.
@@PierreDybman Any doctor will easily provide a prescription for this medication without tests.
@@408Magenta Yes but I didn’t want to if there is an alternative
@@408Magenta Why would I want to do that if I can get most of the effects without side-effects? Furthermore, in the country where I lived till recently, no doctor would risk getting stricken off his practise by writing a prescription for a diabetes drug for a patient who doesn’t have diabetes. If it’s the case in your country, it’s a 🍌 country.
did u try glycine plus NAC?
Lance, how much Bobberine do you take and when do you take it? Is it once a day twice a day before a meal, after a meal...,?
Right now, I take 500mg just before bed. I might change that up in the future.
No mention of whether berberine helped with glucose levels or not?
Hi Lance
I use to take berberine
But switched to dihydroberberine.
Hi,
Can I ask why you
stop taking berbine?
Just curious
I'm curious, what dosage of Berberine do you take?
Also, what brand are you using? (Why?)
Do you take it several times a day or all at once?
Thank You Sir
I take between 500mg-1000mg three times daily of Berberine depending on how I've been feeling in the morning (low or high blood sugar level) along with Milk Thistle and a few other herbs/supplements known to lower sugar levels.. Waiting to get my blood test results to see the numbers.
Hi some channels are saying to take the 500 mg berberine with milk thistle to help with assimilation also did you come across anything stating that metformin may cause heart damage thanks for all you do
I haven't heard that, about milk thistle. I also haven't heard anything about heart damage and metformin.
I didn’t have diabetes before I started Metforman out on it for enough reason and now, after a couple trips to the ER, due to digestive problems and neuropathy like pain. Through a blood test was told. I have pre diabetes!!NO ONE in my family has diabetes. It does not run in my family even distant . Could MetForman have caused me to develop this??
No issues with metformin for 25 yrs. Berberine interacts with blood thinners which I must take. Looks like it shows promise for some people.
Please list the amounts and brand. Thank you
I've never taken Metformin but when I took Berberine my A1C really did not go down it was like 5.7 to 5.6 BUT I guess that is better than going up.
What about Dyhydroberberine? 5 times as effective?
The third day on Berberine and got constipated. I know it’s temporary and will pass. I don’t even know why I am taking it though! Perhaps to augment my keto diet and weight loss journey. Fingers crossed, it will work! 🤞🏻
It's also a powerful anti-carcinogen. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6985034/
Stay strong
What are the dosages and timing?
I’m 73 and take Metformin and lift weights and have been increasing my weights.
Should berberine be taken on non-exercise days or can it be taken daily? For example resveratrol is supposed to be taken every other day / on non-exercise days as it can interfere with exercise benefits as well.
To the best of my knowledge, and I have really looked into this, berberine has no negative effect on exercise. That's one of the main points of this video, so it should be fine to take daily, which is what I do.
They recommend taking B12 with Metformin .It can reduce this in your body, I've read I'm taking Berberine with Metformin I will keep researching this Thanks
SHR mice that are hypertensive? Wonder how they take the BP of them.
I have an improvement in exercise. At 74. I have built a lot of muscle mass . I got faster between sets of heavy weights lifting. Why I Wes on metformin .
Unfortunately, I experienced diarrhea three or four times a day on berberine. I have to stop taking it.
What about dihydroberberine?
I recently stopped taking Metformin, taking Berberine with Trulicity. Would love to get off Trulicity. Stubborn insulin resistance. Also doing OMAD.
Try bitter melon, or chromium and vanadium twice daily. Plus it will stop cravings...
Problem solved!
May God bless your journey
Vlcd minimal carb, adequate protein and only what’s required minimally for fat until you restore metabolic health.
I take berberine but the only important thing to keep in mind is that berberine affects liver enzymes which metabolize drugs eg rapamycin, but also many others.
Yes, I have. In fact, I've been approached by Bucky Labs to be an affilliate. I'm honestly a little leery. It's a completely foreign substance, although I've heard good things about it. Still undecided.
I am taking metformin but for pcos and reproductive cancer. It seems to force the shedding of unhealthy endometrium.
Is there any nightime, caffeine free, tea could I have at night while taking berberine?
I stopped taking metformin because it made me so tired all the time. And on unlucky days, my stomach would give me pain. I’m on glipizide now.
i'm stickin with only rapamycin. it's THE signal that these 2 can lead to if you're lucky. seems to me at least.
Where do I get Berberine and how much do I take?
I still take metformin 500 mg on non excersize days. I like taking it at the end of the day and wake up with that c.r. feeling. I think it's a great medicine if you enjoy carbs and generally have prediabetes
I get it. Everyone reacts differently to...well, everything! Do what works for you.
CR?
@@sleichel caloric restrictions
I'm fine with Metformin. If exercising then skip it for that day.
Lance does berberine effect your sleep, is before bed a good time to dose
It doesn't effect MY sleep, but everyone's different. I dose late afternoon, but before bed would work just as well.
Why do I get such heartburn at night after berberine
Why didn't you supplement with organic Selenium Husk
I had the opposite effect with metformin and working out. I was taking Berberine at the same time though, which actually improves the efficacy of metformin
Can you discuss what is a reasonable dosage? I am taking 500MG twice a day.
Good question, I don't know. I'm currently taking 500mg once a day...because that's what my doctor prescribed. I'm going to be switching to a different type. We'll see what they recommend, then adjust as I think necessary. I've looked but I can't find any reliable dosing info.
My doctor is going to prescribe metformin due to my sugar insulin. I asked my doctor about Berberine, did not get a great response back. Did you lose weight with Berberine?
Money grab. They recommend, you decide.
So how does berberine affect vo2max and testosterone levels? is there any data on that yet?
Not that I've heard.
I am a diehard metformin fan.
If you take Berberine will it drop your blood sugar too low???
But what strength an kind of berberine is rite as there is many
Is taking Berberine instead of Metformin beneficial for people unable to workout?
how about dihydroberberine vs berberine?
Dihydroberberine was created as another form of berberine to be better absorbed. Another option is to use liposomal berberine. Renue By Science sells lipoberberine. Use my discount code of LANCE10
I do 650mg of berberine and 250mg of metformin 3-4 times a week.
I take both Berberine and Metaformin (morning vs evening) for close to two years now.
As far as diarrhea goes, to me that only happens if I take Metaformin 30min + BEFORE food (on an empty stomach), if I take it with food and straight after food, it does not cause any stomach upset, however i also see slightly higher sugar level if take metaformin after food, so there is a trade off of it's suger control effective it seems.
Berbeine HCL also causes stomach upset to me when you take it on an empty stomach before food, but at a far less frequency, and only when you first start taking it, however 1000mg of Berbering HCL does not seem to lower/control the blood sugar level as effective as 1000mg of Metaformin.
Given berberine's possible effect on liver over a longer team, it's probably safer to combine berberine with intermittent fasting, just so you can stop taking berberine when you're fasting so that the liver can recover a bit.
PS: Berberine is processed Huanglian, a chinese medicinal herb used for centuries, if you have low blood pressure you may wanna monitor that when taking berberine/Huanglian, since its used as a high blood pressure treatment chinese medicine.
That's all great to know. Sound like you've done your research. Thanks.
Also read berberine would improve the liver, starting to think the outcome of studies favor what the researcher want's it to show.
@@ibberman most Asian based studies will show/lean towards proving what berberine was already used for in traditional Chinese medicine, bit of a low hanging fruit when the researchers would already know the outcome.
how do we know what type of berberine is best to take
I personally go with Renue By Science's Liposomal Berberine. I've got a discount code if you'd like to try it: LANCE10
The bait here is the pointing finger. that's the most common technique or simply the use of arrows.
Hmm.ok I went to a number 3 ranking in the country Endocrinologist. After reviewing my bloodwork results. He said my body is oversachurated with Lantus insulin my organs are covered in it so its not working in my body correctly anymore. Not to mention I've lost 60 pounds in less than 1 year I went from 209lbs to 151lbs
So Endocrinologist prescribed XIGDUO XR 10/1000. I haven't taken 1 pill of XIGDUO XR yet and i purchssed a 4month supply and 4 month supply of vitamin B12 3000mg of Black Seed Oil 3000mg. So I'll go against the Grain and purchase the Berberine. Take note that my glucose levels have been over 400+ since December 2022
I use freestyle libre3 sensor CGM purchased in February great tool. Please 🙏 what is highest recommended Berberine milligrams I should purchase and what Brand. Thank you
I"m not a doctor and I don't make recommendations on what dosage one individual should take. This channel is not about diabetes and insulin usage, it's about longevity. I use berberine to help control blood sugar levels because insulin spikes can be detrimental to living a long life for anyone, not just diabetics. Listen to your doctor and follow his recommendations, not mine.
That said, I take liposomal berberine that I get from Renue by Science, because of it's bioavailability. Discount code in the description.
@Lance Hitchings I understand thank you for information on Berberine.
Okay. But doesn't mean that Berberine doesn't have the Metformin side effects right?
Mostly, yes. I does cause some digestive upset in some people, but in my own experience, not as much. In fact, I experience no digestive upset at all.
I’ve looked into Berberine but the problem with it is that it has strong anti-microbial properties which can negatively impact your gut microbiome. I’ve been working with a microbiome specialist for more than a year and she said if I took it, it would eradicate all the progress I’ve made in rehabilitating my microbiome. Given the importance of your gut flora on all aspects of physical and mental health, there should be some consideration to the effects of taking Berberine - especially for long periods of time. There have been studies on Berberine as an anti-microbial but it seems everyone in the longevity community ignores this aspect of the compound and it’s potential effects on long term health. I would like to see more studies done to address this concern and more discussion about it in the longevity community.
What if you took a probiotic at Bedtime
I have a friend who's also been doing work on her microbiome and given that amount of progress she's made and the amount of effort she's put in, I believe that she, like you, should probably not take berberine. Everyone's different and should figure out what works for them.
@@LanceHitchings Thanks for responding - my point is it’s probably not very healthy for anyone to take long term - it would be like taking an antibiotic long term. It will have negative effects on your gut.
Hey there I had the exact same concerns as you (anti biotic like function and switched to metformin) however! It appears it only exerts that antibiotic effect in the gut for bad bacteria and leaves the good stuff. Take a look here on UA-cam there are some good more detailed videos on this alone
Maybe I should try something else...But I doubt that. I have been taking metformin for type 2 diabetes for about 35 years. It is very helpful in controlling my A1C, and I have none of the dreaded side effects. I am going to be 80 years old in about 1 week and am starting to believe the only side effect I have from metformin is the longevity one.....I can live with that and will continue to take my metformin.......also, it doesn't hurt that metformin is free with my insurance........
Keep up the good work. Whatever works for you, everyone's different.
Please I really appreciate if You let mi know where I can found Berberine Thanks God Bless You
It's widely available.
Have you heard of any negative mental effects of berberine? I started taking 3 pills a day (450mg) a couple months ago and would suddenly find myself waking up depressed, and having bouts of mania throughout the day. I stopped taking it and that all went away. I waited a month and started taking berberine again, but only one pill a day, and so far- so good. Maybe it was a coincidence? Anyway, I appreciate your channel!
No, I haven't heard about that. Were each pill 450 mg or was the total 450? I take 500mg in the evening and haven't experienced any mental issues. Thanks for the heads-up.
@@LanceHitchings The pills are 450mg each. I did read of some negative mental effects on a message board, but that could have been confirmation bias. Either way, one 450mg pill in the evening seems to be doing the trick for me at the moment.
I think you were taking too much
@@8675-__ quite possibly
Perhaps try a different brand? You never know what's in it.
Cool, I might buy some more B.
Finally, I got my weight below 80 kilos by eating more. No carbs. Meat Eggs Dairy only.
Good stuff
That’s not balanced eating. You need leafy greens, beans and fruits for the necessary vitamins and nutrients.
@@PierreDybman 😅 325 days without any of that junk.
Now have my Berberine. The price has risen since last time. 202 lei, or~ €41 it's from Canads