This is the second video I've watched of yours and it has trap weezer in it. Probably the worst thing I have ever heard thank you. Also where can I find that
I think I know why you got crits more often. You said it lets you stay in the frontline longer. Your chance of getting a crit increases the more damage you have recently done. The black box gives you sustain. I imagine you had many moments where you would weave in and out of extended skirmishes one after the other while it heals you enough that you can take the next fight.
This actually happened to me. There was this guy who stole my Black Box and dominated the rest of my team and won the game. I'm devastated that my own Black Box was used to beat my team
I do find that even if a medic is on your team, the black box is good for letting the medic focus on others and having one less person to worry about healing (or not having to heal as much.)
and if the medic does decide to heal you you're basically invincible in a team fight outside of charged headshots or backstabs. Downside of having one less rocket doesn't matter when you have all the time in the world to reload. Pretty cancerous in pubs. Can just hold a chokepoint forever on defense which I don't find fun even when I'm the one doing it.
I found from playing with my brother that having a Black Box and a banner doesn't let me get much value from an uber because I run out of steam too quickly, but pairing it with a Shotgun lets me really milk a Kritz charge because the BB healing helps me survive the attention a charge brings my way, and the shotty enables me to keep shooting if there are still targets after the BB is empty or to kill a low value target without spending a rocket.
Soldier has two important resources. HP and clip. The black box makes it easier to manage one, but harder to manage the other. It's a decently balanced concept.
Soldier is the opposite of mobile if you use a melee weapon except if you use the escape plan it will be hard to kill most classes with melee weapons because most of them is faster than soldier. If you have a melee weapon that damages you if you change into your primary you’re pretty much gonna give your opponent the upper hand since your chances of killing them with the half zatoichi is low unless it’s another soldier or demo using the same weapon.
the black box DOES actually let you still play hyper aggressively! remember that last rocket you use to jump away? YOU DON'T NEED IT. jump in, kill everyone involved, use the health on hit to HOLD YOUR GROUND. let your team advance to where you just cleared everything out while you're reloading, then play some more hyper aggression to further push the enemy team back, while continuously extending your fallback line by allowing your team to move up behind you. you're suddenly both a team player AND a hyper aggressive 260 health explosive flying scout. EVERYTHING must learn to fear you.
Yeah, if you're going to just get out after getting a kill you're completely destroying the point of the Black Box. Or you could wait to reload that first rocket you used to move and then fire on the enemy since they likely don't know you're there.
My ground holds best with the equalizer. If I'm below 40, scouts will drop in one hit... Snipers and spies too ;3. Casual pubs never expect ya to stick around, so when you do? That's where the fun begins.
More I push more I gain life, this weapon was made for my crazy full rush playstyle. I killed entire teams rushing with this thing, when the shell plays the party start. I'm a main spy, I use soldier with this loadout to change the game when we are loosing
Personally that lost rocket bugs me a lot so I've been getting back to basics with the Shotgun; Having it means I can spend a rocket and some health to jump in, spend the other two rockets getting the first kill for a health rebate, and still have 6 shells and 200HP to brute force a solution if I've got no time to reload. Without an offensive secondary I find that loadouts with the Black Box run out of steam too fast for me to get the value I want from ubercharges and banners, and I also find that enemy players using the BB with a banner are easy kills when I've got more ammo to outlast them with or a method of deflecting their rockets.
@@agentoranj5858 ubercharge and banners? mate, i pop the gunboats on and fling myself into the enemy team with absolutely no fear whatsoever, knowing full well i'm effectively a rocket jumping heavy in effective health, screw being near my medics, they have better teammates to tend to, imma roam
nah man, you gotta combo it with the conch and zatoichi. it turns soldier into a subpar melee charger, but he is pretty fast and going on tears with the katana's health gain is really fun.
I can explain the BB's seemingly higher crit rate. TF2 has a mechanic whee, if a player is performing well and doing a lot of damage, they will have a higher crit chance. but it's not just from doing damage, it's also boosted by HEALING. so you are damaging the enemy and healing yourself, your random crit chance will be higher than other launchers.
Disciplinary action literally has longer range than the eyelander AND can hit people from behind if you're standing just close enough.. My favorite soldier loadout is Rocket Jumper + Conch + Disciplinary Action. You get away with WAYYY more than you ever should with that loadout, and getting the conch buff is just hilarious. Give it a shot!
I call it the "Lone Soldier" load out especially on CTF servers where I'm tired of the back and forth and need some alone action and my god it is fun infiltrating the enemy Intel and coming out killing everyone. It feels like something out of Halo when you are escaping.
OK so this is hilarious. I was following your channel around ever since this video came out a year ago (when I believe you had wayyy less subscribers) and that was simply because my brother told me there's a UA-camr who uses radiohead music in his videos. I love this band so much, and especially weird fishes (this song) I never thought you'd become this big at the tf2 community and it's a blast to see it.
Alright, here are the facts as I understand them. Personally. I see BB + Conch too much in casual. You make a good point, the soldier in question does give up a lot to use it. But when it's a problem is coincidentally where I see it the most, tryhards with a medic up their ass. BB is usually aussie, but they just abuse it to no end. I'm so specific because that's the only time I actually notice it really, because it's well balanced enough to fit into the game. BB + Panic Attack is the gold standard. That's a frontline brawler, have fun reloading though. BB + gunboats is my guilty pleasure. It is too much fun if you play around health packs, roamer is just too much fun with sustainability.
I've always found that BB with a non-shotgun leaves me unable to reliably engage when it's not just a straggler or two. I just don't have the firepower to do what I need to do and get out. It'll take at least two BB rockets to do anything beyond mopping up someone who's already half dead, and that leaves you reloading. Hence why like you said I like running with the panic attack. BB + Concherer is great for straight engagements, but everyone knows that jumping is where the joy of soldier comes from. A shotgun lets you follow up if you just barely missed a kill, or lets you surprise someone who was expecting you to try and jump away or something.
i remember my internet is hot garbage an did litterally charge with 900 ping and dragom breath and proceed to litterally just magic avoid all hits while nailing a sentry, stopping for 1 second, and then dying when im halfway in the base to someone who was shooting at the ground where i was
@@elmaxoTF2 I have just been getting into TF2 and your video was really entertaining and informative; it showed up in my recommended so hopefully it shows up in more users’ pages and you get more and more views! And yeah radiohead has such interesting sounds that they play around with and you never really know what to expect.
I particularly love to run the half zatoichi along with this loadout, it's amazing to run towards your enemies with the mov. speed buff from the conch active, healing while hitting and also that sweet 100HP when killing someone
this is a really high quality video you did a great job i find it funny that the set items, the black box and the batallions, despite the fact that they do cover for each other's downsides, arent actually the best combo with the black box just bc the conch is so good
Another thing you should mention about the conch is that it is TERRIFYING when you jump right into a group. You can chuck rockets at targets in breathing distance and just heal your self-damage back, even more if there's multiple enemies cramped up. Great for suicidal group wipes or medic bombs.
I have a strategy I like using when I play soldier, I usually equip the Airstrike, The conch or B.A.S.E. Jumper, and any melee, then I work on getting 4 kills, then I’d rocket jump into the air and then once I start falling (with the base jumper equipped) I’d activate the parachute, reload, then rain hell on the enemy team, it is so much fun for me. Or if I’m using the conch, I’d get up high, regain my health then do the same thing just without the parachute
I used to use this loadout before realising i was crippling myself from the lack of 1 rocket from the black box. I use stock now.i still use the conch though cuz of its regen is too good
@@crossedout_wizzkill1015 Same. I've found out that using the BB around your team is the best way to use it(boy! I wonder if the game TEAM fortress 2 wants you to cooperate!) And use it to build backpack charges more reliably.
technically the black box's 1 rocket downside actually makes it full clip reload faster but you wont be doing that in a fire fight so it isnt really that important
I actually love using the panic attack with the black box. Even though most people usually use banners, I enjoy going combo soldier with it. Great video, you've got a new subscriber!
I'm still getting what I want out of BB+Shotty, it just works for me. I've been using the Shotgun with every class I can to get in more practice time and it's paying off bigly.
I think I know why the black box crits so much is because the more damage you do in a certain amount of time the more likely you will get a crit and the black box allows you to survive and because you heal on hit be more aggressive making your Crit chance higher and higher.
hearing bodysnatchers and 15 steps played almost back to back in some random tf2 video after I got into radiohead maybe 6 months ago with those exact 2 songs is surreal, big ups for confusing my brain
i'm pretty sure the reason the black box random crits more is because healing is also counted towards the 800 damage dealt the last 30 seconds that increase your crit chance and since you are healing your self quite a bit i assume that's the reason it random crits more.
Imagine using the Zatoichi with this. Probably not all that practical, but oh god the theming of healing! You could use cosmetics to make yourself look like a lich or dark wizard, name your weapons around it, and badaboom!
One thing I've realized recently... This combo also gets EATEN by pyros. You can't Splash Damage them out and hit a direct, because having 175 health means they become a bit of a problem past the 90 damage range. This means they can get up close and wreck you with flames, and since this combo is so common, you don't have a shotgun, AND if one of your rockets get reflected you may not have enough damage output to take them down without reloading, this combo certainly adds to pyro hate.
I play a lot of soldier and I've always avoided this loadout due to the coward stereotype but i might give it a shot next time I'm in a slump! Great content btw, been subbed for a few vids now and you just keep getting better and better, can't wait to see more!
I love how the first part of this video has the song "The Bends" by Radiohead in it. Don't see that song getting as much attention as the other songs that they've made.
I use black box a ton And yes it seems to crit a lot mostly due to survivability = more charge in crit bucket And thats also part of usally dying due to being handycapped when my aim cells take a brake from working
i always use the black box and the battalionbackup. Because that +20 with the healing of the Black box is awesome. and for some reason, in my case, i crit more when i use that loadout. aaaaand, because of the -1 rocket , the battalionbackup, can help you escape from that situation.
As a Florida native, I would just like to point out the "Conch" (As in the shell) is pronounced "Conk". Therefore, "Concheror" is literally pronounced "Conqueror". I don't know who came up with that brilliant name, but I will fight to the death to ensure this brilliant play-on-words gains the respect it deserves.
ur choice of music is amazing. radiohead is timeless. im pretty sure i heard a new vegas ost in another one of ur vids. also the drain gang weezer was toxic.
i think the reason you were doing so many crits is because you spend more time at the frontlines therefore dealing more damage which increases your number of crits you were shooting. and add that up with more rockets is a pretty high chance to crit
i thought i was the only one that noticed just how much this thing random crits, in mvm especially compared to any other launcher that can i've used, its effectively like having a diet crit canteen
Maybe it’s something about the clip going from 4 to 3 that fucks with the crit chances and increases it idk. Probably just a coincidence for both us though lmao
@@elmaxoTF2 Been a month, but whatever. I saw another comment on the video give a potential reason, that being the healing that the Black Box provides. Dealing damage increases crit chance, but the self-healing of the Black Box will supposedly ALSO increase your crit chance (similar to the Medic healing someone else), making it crit more often despite theoretically critting less because of the lower number of rockets fired.
The increased Crit thing is due to how crits are calculated, its the same reason that medic crits so often and why the half-zatoichi used to crit all the time before random crits were removed from it entirely. You have an improved crit chance the more damage and healing you do, and these stack, so if you are doing both damage and healing you have a much higher crit chance than just standard weapons.
I like to use the black box, panic attack and disciplinary action. The black box lets you heal, the panic attack is good for combo'ing which mitigates the decreased ammo capacity and the disciplinary action gets you to the battle faster and makes you less dependent on rocket jumping.
I can already hear all the GOOD SHOT MATE voice lines
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oh boy i just discovered this channel 3 days ago and the combo of TF2 content + Fantano references and the In Rainbows soundtrack for the videos made me think that this might be one of my fav channels in long LONG time
[Cut to a BLU Pyro firing a blast of flame from his Flamethrower. He thrusts his weapon in the air and laughs triumphantly as a rocket heads towards him from off screen]. Pyro: [Rocket hits Pyro, who is gibbed.] "Ow!" [Cut to BLU Demoman taking a drink, also getting blown up by a Crit rocket from off screen.] [Cut to BLU Heavy performing the Showdown taunt.] Heavy: "Pow!" [Explodes, presumably by a third Crit rocket] ["Meet the Soldier" text appears.] [Cut to the Soldier, drilling what appears to be a line of recruits.] Soldier: "If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little more [He pokes a recruits' helmet] about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor." [The Art of War plays] [Cut to the Soldier holding his Shovel and screaming.] [The Soldier then charges the final capture point in Granary with his Shotgun and kills a Demoman, who fires at him but misses. He switches to his Rocket Launcher and a BLU Medic appears behind him, firing syringes.] RED Demoman: "To the left!" Soldier: "Maggots!" [The Soldier turns to the left and fires a Crit rocket at the Medic, gibbing him.] RED Sniper: "Right up! Right up!" RED Heavy: "Go, go, go!" [The Soldier, Sniper and Heavy charge into battle together, as explosions occur all around them.] [Cut back to the Soldier's drill. Music pauses.] Soldier: "Then, he used his fight money... [The Soldier unhooks two grenades from his belt, one in each hand.] Soldier: ...to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat... [The Soldier demonstrates by using the grenades, moving them in a walking motion.] Soldier: ...and then he beat the crap out of every single one." [The Soldier bangs the two grenades together repeatedly.] [Cut back to battle scene. Music resumes.] RED Scout: (Behind cover) "Sentry up there!" [The Soldier runs up to the Sentry gun and rocket jumps onto a pipe, both destroying the Sentry and killing the Engineer in the process.] [A BLU Heavy and Pyro are holding the final capture point. The Heavy is laughing gleefully. The Soldier jumps downward, firing a Critical rocket that lands just before he does. The explosion kills both the Heavy and Pyro. A Spy uncloaks and attempts to backstab the Soldier, but the Soldier pulls out his Shovel, swiftly knocking out the Spy with it.] [Freeze frame] [Cut back to the Soldier's drill] Soldier: [Laughs to himself] "And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a 'zoo'!" [Crickets chirp as the 'recruits' are revealed to be the Gibbed heads of BLU team members perched on a gate, all wearing BLU Soldier helmets. The Medic's head falls off the gate.] [Team Fortress 2 ending flourish music plays.] Soldier: [To the Medic's head] "Unless it's a farm!"
As a libery launcher enjoyer I always forget it's capable of random crits, perhaps random crits have something to do with the amount of rockets you have in your weapon, I remember being surprised how much the stock rocket launcher crits when I switched to it for a day to see other launchers
@@elmaxoTF2 allowing a racist transphobe to keep their platform and spread their harmful narrative to impressionable young people because "they make cool tf2 vids 😎"
Finally someone else with sense in the community. It's a shame because the video isn't a bad video, but that plug considering everything that's going on - and the fact that it's just free advertising, despite falsely believing you can separate that (lol) - is tone deaf at least. But you know, what can you do. At least the OP acknowledges his shittiness, more than I can say for a lot of people who on the contrary aren't very intelligent.
BB + gunboats + escape plan has always been my fav, it lets you suicide bomb with 2 rockets, then either surf your own rockets at point blank or pull out the escape plan to bail. Very fun to rocket jump "through" people. Only downside is when a medic ubers you at 1 rocket left and you suddenly have to pull out the escape plan, awkward.
Now that I think about it, the black box and gardener might work well together. The whole reason why you don't aggressively jump with the box is that your damage output isn't as good. But the gardener mitigates that, allowing for a somewhat-aggressive black box loadout. The general playstyle of this would be to jump in, garden someone, then retreat on foot while shooting your 2 rockets at enemies to both get them away from you and heal; even potentially killing another player while doing so.
This is the second video I've watched of yours and it has trap weezer in it. Probably the worst thing I have ever heard thank you.
Also where can I find that
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Black box is amazing when your team already has a lot of power and is amazing on defence cause sentry nests are tough to take out on this loadout.
Yeah definitely functions better on defence for sure.
Probably should have mentioned that somewhere actually…
@@elmaxoTF2 you should pin him
@@ST4_R he pinned the trap wheezer 😎
Used to run the Black Box and Buff Banner when there weren't any medics around. Healing and "crits" and you can go solo.
I think I know why you got crits more often.
You said it lets you stay in the frontline longer. Your chance of getting a crit increases the more damage you have recently done. The black box gives you sustain. I imagine you had many moments where you would weave in and out of extended skirmishes one after the other while it heals you enough that you can take the next fight.
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Ah so that’s why top-scoring heavys seems to constantly be firing random crits
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This actually happened to me.
There was this guy who stole my Black Box and dominated the rest of my team and won the game.
I'm devastated that my own Black Box was used to beat my team
I got an Australian black box , I'm not proud of having it, it's the first Australian that no one agreed to be in the game lmaoo
@@memoman_ytI’ll take it off your hands :P
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@@memoman_yt give it to me, then
@spamton_g_spamtom474 hey, if you still got that, I'll relieve you of it
I do find that even if a medic is on your team, the black box is good for letting the medic focus on others and having one less person to worry about healing (or not having to heal as much.)
and if the medic does decide to heal you you're basically invincible in a team fight outside of charged headshots or backstabs. Downside of having one less rocket doesn't matter when you have all the time in the world to reload. Pretty cancerous in pubs. Can just hold a chokepoint forever on defense which I don't find fun even when I'm the one doing it.
Yeah the box doesn't make the medic redundant
BUT when I get ubered with the box I'm like man I wish I had another rocket
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that's *exactly* my mindset when playing my main solder, Black Box, Concheror and Half-Zatoichi, and yes the samurai set to go with it.
I found from playing with my brother that having a Black Box and a banner doesn't let me get much value from an uber because I run out of steam too quickly, but pairing it with a Shotgun lets me really milk a Kritz charge because the BB healing helps me survive the attention a charge brings my way, and the shotty enables me to keep shooting if there are still targets after the BB is empty or to kill a low value target without spending a rocket.
Soldier has two important resources. HP and clip. The black box makes it easier to manage one, but harder to manage the other. It's a decently balanced concept.
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"There's only two viable weapons, the Disciplinary Action and the Escape plan."
*Angry Zatoichi noises*
it damages you if you switch between zatoichi and other weapon
@@MizuMizu_water make sure you kill the person than. bruh
Soldier is the opposite of mobile if you use a melee weapon except if you use the escape plan it will be hard to kill most classes with melee weapons because most of them is faster than soldier. If you have a melee weapon that damages you if you change into your primary you’re pretty much gonna give your opponent the upper hand since your chances of killing them with the half zatoichi is low unless it’s another soldier or demo using the same weapon.
@@user-ec9it3zv1d yeah but cool sword
@@user-ec9it3zv1d the strat: pop conch and become soldierknight
the black box DOES actually let you still play hyper aggressively!
remember that last rocket you use to jump away? YOU DON'T NEED IT.
jump in, kill everyone involved, use the health on hit to HOLD YOUR GROUND. let your team advance to where you just cleared everything out while you're reloading, then play some more hyper aggression to further push the enemy team back, while continuously extending your fallback line by allowing your team to move up behind you. you're suddenly both a team player AND a hyper aggressive 260 health explosive flying scout. EVERYTHING must learn to fear you.
Yeah, if you're going to just get out after getting a kill you're completely destroying the point of the Black Box. Or you could wait to reload that first rocket you used to move and then fire on the enemy since they likely don't know you're there.
My ground holds best with the equalizer. If I'm below 40, scouts will drop in one hit... Snipers and spies too ;3. Casual pubs never expect ya to stick around, so when you do? That's where the fun begins.
More I push more I gain life, this weapon was made for my crazy full rush playstyle. I killed entire teams rushing with this thing, when the shell plays the party start. I'm a main spy, I use soldier with this loadout to change the game when we are loosing
Personally that lost rocket bugs me a lot so I've been getting back to basics with the Shotgun; Having it means I can spend a rocket and some health to jump in, spend the other two rockets getting the first kill for a health rebate, and still have 6 shells and 200HP to brute force a solution if I've got no time to reload. Without an offensive secondary I find that loadouts with the Black Box run out of steam too fast for me to get the value I want from ubercharges and banners, and I also find that enemy players using the BB with a banner are easy kills when I've got more ammo to outlast them with or a method of deflecting their rockets.
@@agentoranj5858 ubercharge and banners? mate, i pop the gunboats on and fling myself into the enemy team with absolutely no fear whatsoever, knowing full well i'm effectively a rocket jumping heavy in effective health, screw being near my medics, they have better teammates to tend to, imma roam
nah man, you gotta combo it with the conch and zatoichi. it turns soldier into a subpar melee charger, but he is pretty fast and going on tears with the katana's health gain is really fun.
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It’s really fun to 1 hit KO a cocky demo knight just by swinging a funni sword
Love the Radiohead in the background, in rainbows is great
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@@gordon3926 2 years later and I did the same
exactly my thought just now :D
I can explain the BB's seemingly higher crit rate. TF2 has a mechanic whee, if a player is performing well and doing a lot of damage, they will have a higher crit chance. but it's not just from doing damage, it's also boosted by HEALING. so you are damaging the enemy and healing yourself, your random crit chance will be higher than other launchers.
I can't tell if this is a joke or if you're serious, but if it's serious then it makes a lot of sense because of tf2's insane spaghetti codes
@@Fatsaver it's the same reason "the saw always crits" for the medic
Damn, imagine a black box/direct hit fusion. The crits would be off the charts
Name: direct box / black hit (wait a second)
Disciplinary action literally has longer range than the eyelander AND can hit people from behind if you're standing just close enough.. My favorite soldier loadout is Rocket Jumper + Conch + Disciplinary Action. You get away with WAYYY more than you ever should with that loadout, and getting the conch buff is just hilarious. Give it a shot!
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disciplinary action range is broken
the fantano scoring references, the weezer meme remix, the radiohead instrumentals,
hell yeah, nice music taste my dude. you deserve WAY more subs!
I call it the "Lone Soldier" load out especially on CTF servers where I'm tired of the back and forth and need some alone action and my god it is fun infiltrating the enemy Intel and coming out killing everyone. It feels like something out of Halo when you are escaping.
yeah i play a LOT of 2fort and health packs are VERY scarce in that map
I find this criminally under-viewed for the quality of this video, you get a sub from me!
aye thanks so much!
@@elmaxoTF2 what was the intro song? Anime scene
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68 damage for heal... we were on the verge of greatness. We were this close.
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“And to that I simply say no”
Exactly what I was hoping to hear. Concise.
Mans summed up the problem of playing Support with that: everyone wants it, very few WANT to be it.
But it's pretty fun
*Until a soldier main malds on you in chat for not being up his ass healing only him 24/7
As a medic player i keep finding lobbies with even up to 3 medics which means i cant even play him
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Maxo: **Talks about how bad is the downside on having only three rockets**
Also Maxo: **Never uses the forth rocket**
OK so this is hilarious. I was following your channel around ever since this video came out a year ago (when I believe you had wayyy less subscribers) and that was simply because my brother told me there's a UA-camr who uses radiohead music in his videos. I love this band so much, and especially weird fishes (this song) I never thought you'd become this big at the tf2 community and it's a blast to see it.
Alright, here are the facts as I understand them. Personally. I see BB + Conch too much in casual. You make a good point, the soldier in question does give up a lot to use it. But when it's a problem is coincidentally where I see it the most, tryhards with a medic up their ass. BB is usually aussie, but they just abuse it to no end. I'm so specific because that's the only time I actually notice it really, because it's well balanced enough to fit into the game. BB + Panic Attack is the gold standard. That's a frontline brawler, have fun reloading though. BB + gunboats is my guilty pleasure. It is too much fun if you play around health packs, roamer is just too much fun with sustainability.
I've always found that BB with a non-shotgun leaves me unable to reliably engage when it's not just a straggler or two. I just don't have the firepower to do what I need to do and get out. It'll take at least two BB rockets to do anything beyond mopping up someone who's already half dead, and that leaves you reloading.
Hence why like you said I like running with the panic attack. BB + Concherer is great for straight engagements, but everyone knows that jumping is where the joy of soldier comes from. A shotgun lets you follow up if you just barely missed a kill, or lets you surprise someone who was expecting you to try and jump away or something.
@@Chudpope The Shotgun also keeps your pants up if you run into a Pyro who can airblast or an Engie who packed the Short Circuit.
Imagine using the black box for roamer and not the liberty launcher + gunboats
@@Michiganhobo I like Liberty + panic attack for roaming personally. They don't expect you to pull out the gat.
The batalions backup is also good for phlog pyros that keep killing ur team with crits but if they get uberd....god help you 😂
Team up with a loose canon demo to stall Uber, but that requires friends which is impossible to get
i remember my internet is hot garbage an did litterally charge with 900 ping and dragom breath and proceed to litterally just magic avoid all hits while nailing a sentry, stopping for 1 second, and then dying when im halfway in the base to someone who was shooting at the ground where i was
@@99999bomb it's not that hard to make friends
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Disciplinary Action is pretty good at both approaching and retreating when the situation fits.
Random weezer song moment at 6:00 really made me do a double take
same
They took a great song, and decided “nah, let’s make this banger absolute brainrot.”
what is the name of the song?
@@Derble4 buddy holly, but remixed to sound like dog shit
@@YourAverageCringeUA-camrwhere can i find that remix of it
Awesome video man! Great music selection btw, I especially enjoyed 15 Steps in the background lol.
aye thank you. I've been relistening to a lot of Radiohead lately and their instrumentals honestly make for some really good backing music
@@elmaxoTF2 I have just been getting into TF2 and your video was really entertaining and informative; it showed up in my recommended so hopefully it shows up in more users’ pages and you get more and more views! And yeah radiohead has such interesting sounds that they play around with and you never really know what to expect.
@@elmaxoTF2 what was the intro song? Anime scene, funky sounding
@@mr.fantastic7756it was the instrumental to American Women
I particularly love to run the half zatoichi along with this loadout, it's amazing to run towards your enemies with the mov. speed buff from the conch active, healing while hitting and also that sweet 100HP when killing someone
it's also good when your medic won't stop pocketing that one soldier
this is a really high quality video you did a great job
i find it funny that the set items, the black box and the batallions, despite the fact that they do cover for each other's downsides, arent actually the best combo with the black box just bc the conch is so good
I remember when this was considered a crutch build. Kinda crazy to see an entire video dedicated to it.
I mean, it still is. At higher skill levels you're really gimping yourself.
In pubs, you can get away with almost anything if you're committed though
it’s pretty much because of soundsmith tf2, he’s the reason you see people calling it the bad box as well
love the Music in the background, never thought Radiohead could fit so well in a video
Another thing you should mention about the conch is that it is TERRIFYING when you jump right into a group. You can chuck rockets at targets in breathing distance and just heal your self-damage back, even more if there's multiple enemies cramped up. Great for suicidal group wipes or medic bombs.
1:47 is that.... Weird fishes I hear?
A TF2 video is the last place I thought I'd hear a Radiohead song. Impeccable taste!
4:19 even as a medic main, that's how i feel about myself when halfway through a match i swap to pyro or something
The music choices in the background are really good!
8:13 engineers are gaming
I have a strategy I like using when I play soldier, I usually equip the Airstrike, The conch or B.A.S.E. Jumper, and any melee, then I work on getting 4 kills, then I’d rocket jump into the air and then once I start falling (with the base jumper equipped) I’d activate the parachute, reload, then rain hell on the enemy team, it is so much fun for me. Or if I’m using the conch, I’d get up high, regain my health then do the same thing just without the parachute
I used to use this loadout before realising i was crippling myself from the lack of 1 rocket from the black box. I use stock now.i still use the conch though cuz of its regen is too good
I say crippling myself cuz i always ran out of rockets while using it killing me cuz im always missin that last rocket
@@crossedout_wizzkill1015 Same. I've found out that using the BB around your team is the best way to use it(boy! I wonder if the game TEAM fortress 2 wants you to cooperate!) And use it to build backpack charges more reliably.
Stock chad
"Oxygen is subjective."
-Bilbo Baggins
Yes.
technically the black box's 1 rocket downside actually makes it full clip reload faster but you wont be doing that in a fire fight so it isnt really that important
Radiohead+ Tf2 is a combo I didn’t know I needed until now
I actually love using the panic attack with the black box. Even though most people usually use banners, I enjoy going combo soldier with it. Great video, you've got a new subscriber!
I can’t believe the legendary Elmaxo is a Deckerhead.
elmaxo is a radiohead fan apparently
I appreciate the instrumental American Woman in the background
you're probably gonna be popular soon, because your content is really good :)
thanks so much
No problem ;) continue to make good contents
@@elmaxoTF2 what was the intro song? Anime scene, funky sounding
immaculate background music choices
I used the shotgun with the black box, and I found it worked really well with the whole one less rocket thing, but their are easily better options
I'm still getting what I want out of BB+Shotty, it just works for me. I've been using the Shotgun with every class I can to get in more practice time and it's paying off bigly.
6:07 "Random Black Critter"
Editing is even more god-tier
love the choice of radiohead in the background!
I think I know why the black box crits so much is because the more damage you do in a certain amount of time the more likely you will get a crit and the black box allows you to survive and because you heal on hit be more aggressive making your Crit chance higher and higher.
hearing bodysnatchers and 15 steps played almost back to back in some random tf2 video after I got into radiohead maybe 6 months ago with those exact 2 songs is surreal, big ups for confusing my brain
I tested out this loadout today, I literally dominated 4 players.
Today I learned Radiohead instrumentals go quite well with commentary
i'm pretty sure the reason the black box random crits more is because healing is also counted towards the 800 damage dealt the last 30 seconds that increase your crit chance and since you are healing your self quite a bit i assume that's the reason it random crits more.
That only works for medics, and only with the medigun. Engineers don’t get crits for dispenser healing.
Imagine using the Zatoichi with this. Probably not all that practical, but oh god the theming of healing!
You could use cosmetics to make yourself look like a lich or dark wizard, name your weapons around it, and badaboom!
Interesting to hear instrumentals of actual songs in a gaming video for once. Big ups
hahahaha every gaming video ever only has videogame osts xDD
Gotta love the Radiohead in the background
One thing I've realized recently...
This combo also gets EATEN by pyros. You can't Splash Damage them out and hit a direct, because having 175 health means they become a bit of a problem past the 90 damage range. This means they can get up close and wreck you with flames, and since this combo is so common, you don't have a shotgun, AND if one of your rockets get reflected you may not have enough damage output to take them down without reloading, this combo certainly adds to pyro hate.
I've pulled off the same thing with the Short Circuit, pub Soldiers just aren't used to being charged by an Engineer.
Weird fishes in the background is amazing
I play a lot of soldier and I've always avoided this loadout due to the coward stereotype but i might give it a shot next time I'm in a slump!
Great content btw, been subbed for a few vids now and you just keep getting better and better, can't wait to see more!
I love how the first part of this video has the song "The Bends" by Radiohead in it. Don't see that song getting as much attention as the other songs that they've made.
Literally Mann's Guide 3
Awesome video for such a small channel. Subbed Keep it up
I love this channel now. I'd be binging all the videos if I wasn't supposed to be doing homework.
INTO THE FIRE THROUGH TRENCHES AND MUD,
SON OF BELGIUM AND IRELAND WITH WAR IN HIS BLOOD!
LEADING THE CHARGE INTO HOSTILE BARRAGE, BY DESIGN, HE WAS MADE FOR THE FRONTLINE!
I need to listen to In Rainbows again now
definitely, i’ve been relistening to radiohead’s discography lately.
I use black box a ton
And yes it seems to crit a lot mostly due to survivability = more charge in crit bucket
And thats also part of usally dying due to being handycapped when my aim cells take a brake from working
i always use the black box and the battalionbackup. Because that +20 with the healing of the Black box is awesome. and for some reason, in my case, i crit more when i use that loadout. aaaaand, because of the -1 rocket , the battalionbackup, can help you escape from that situation.
5:08 and if you equip the Grenandier's Softcap you can leave a gravestone where you kill someone!
As a Florida native, I would just like to point out the "Conch" (As in the shell) is pronounced "Conk".
Therefore, "Concheror" is literally pronounced "Conqueror".
I don't know who came up with that brilliant name, but I will fight to the death to ensure this brilliant play-on-words gains the respect it deserves.
ok
ur choice of music is amazing. radiohead is timeless. im pretty sure i heard a new vegas ost in another one of ur vids. also the drain gang weezer was toxic.
i think the reason you were doing so many crits is because you spend more time at the frontlines therefore dealing more damage which increases your number of crits you were shooting. and add that up with more rockets is a pretty high chance to crit
Going from In Rainbows to trap weezer kinda felt like being abducted by the CiA and tortured for information in the middle of a wank
Hahahaha, Wheatley Crab.
stop in
talking about tf2 with radiohead and weezer in the background is just perfect
i thought i was the only one that noticed just how much this thing random crits, in mvm especially compared to any other launcher that can i've used, its effectively like having a diet crit canteen
Maybe it’s something about the clip going from 4 to 3 that fucks with the crit chances and increases it idk. Probably just a coincidence for both us though lmao
@@elmaxoTF2 Been a month, but whatever. I saw another comment on the video give a potential reason, that being the healing that the Black Box provides. Dealing damage increases crit chance, but the self-healing of the Black Box will supposedly ALSO increase your crit chance (similar to the Medic healing someone else), making it crit more often despite theoretically critting less because of the lower number of rockets fired.
@@elmaxoTF2 what was the intro song? Anime scene, funky sounding
My man just used all of the songs in In Rainbows for the background music
The increased Crit thing is due to how crits are calculated, its the same reason that medic crits so often and why the half-zatoichi used to crit all the time before random crits were removed from it entirely. You have an improved crit chance the more damage and healing you do, and these stack, so if you are doing both damage and healing you have a much higher crit chance than just standard weapons.
I have never heard a single youtuber who used Radiohead's music in videos. As a fan of the band i find this really neat. Great vid btw
I was thinking the same thing. I've always adored their music so it's cool to se it outside my spotify playlist.
@@Freak480 i totally agree
5:54 💀💀💀
8:28
Me: *Trys to do all the things*
I like to use the black box, panic attack and disciplinary action. The black box lets you heal, the panic attack is good for combo'ing which mitigates the decreased ammo capacity and the disciplinary action gets you to the battle faster and makes you less dependent on rocket jumping.
6:11 I also get random crits every other hit with the original, even when rocket jumping lmao
1:57 Look at the composition of the red team
I can already hear all the GOOD SHOT MATE voice lines
oh boy i just discovered this channel 3 days ago and the combo of TF2 content + Fantano references and the In Rainbows soundtrack for the videos made me think that this might be one of my fav channels in long LONG time
1:36 how many TF2 UA-camrs listen to Radiohead???
I’ve never seen a more relatable response to “why don’t you just go medic” “because no”😂
[Cut to a BLU Pyro firing a blast of flame from his Flamethrower. He thrusts his weapon in the air and laughs triumphantly as a rocket heads towards him from off screen].
Pyro: [Rocket hits Pyro, who is gibbed.] "Ow!"
[Cut to BLU Demoman taking a drink, also getting blown up by a Crit rocket from off screen.]
[Cut to BLU Heavy performing the Showdown taunt.]
Heavy: "Pow!" [Explodes, presumably by a third Crit rocket]
["Meet the Soldier" text appears.]
[Cut to the Soldier, drilling what appears to be a line of recruits.]
Soldier: "If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight! Sun Tzu said that, and I'd say he knows a little more [He pokes a recruits' helmet] about fighting than you do, pal, because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor."
[The Art of War plays]
[Cut to the Soldier holding his Shovel and screaming.]
[The Soldier then charges the final capture point in Granary with his Shotgun and kills a Demoman, who fires at him but misses. He switches to his Rocket Launcher and a BLU Medic appears behind him, firing syringes.]
RED Demoman: "To the left!"
Soldier: "Maggots!"
[The Soldier turns to the left and fires a Crit rocket at the Medic, gibbing him.]
RED Sniper: "Right up! Right up!"
RED Heavy: "Go, go, go!"
[The Soldier, Sniper and Heavy charge into battle together, as explosions occur all around them.]
[Cut back to the Soldier's drill. Music pauses.]
Soldier: "Then, he used his fight money...
[The Soldier unhooks two grenades from his belt, one in each hand.]
Soldier: ...to buy two of every animal on earth, and then he herded them onto a boat...
[The Soldier demonstrates by using the grenades, moving them in a walking motion.]
Soldier: ...and then he beat the crap out of every single one."
[The Soldier bangs the two grenades together repeatedly.]
[Cut back to battle scene. Music resumes.]
RED Scout: (Behind cover) "Sentry up there!"
[The Soldier runs up to the Sentry gun and rocket jumps onto a pipe, both destroying the Sentry and killing the Engineer in the process.]
[A BLU Heavy and Pyro are holding the final capture point. The Heavy is laughing gleefully. The Soldier jumps downward, firing a Critical rocket that lands just before he does. The explosion kills both the Heavy and Pyro. A Spy uncloaks and attempts to backstab the Soldier, but the Soldier pulls out his Shovel, swiftly knocking out the Spy with it.]
[Freeze frame]
[Cut back to the Soldier's drill]
Soldier: [Laughs to himself] "And from that day forward any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a 'zoo'!"
[Crickets chirp as the 'recruits' are revealed to be the Gibbed heads of BLU team members perched on a gate, all wearing BLU Soldier helmets. The Medic's head falls off the gate.]
[Team Fortress 2 ending flourish music plays.]
Soldier: [To the Medic's head] "Unless it's a farm!"
As a libery launcher enjoyer I always forget it's capable of random crits, perhaps random crits have something to do with the amount of rockets you have in your weapon, I remember being surprised how much the stock rocket launcher crits when I switched to it for a day to see other launchers
i am here before this blew up
the radiohead instrumentals in the background were much appreciated, great music taste man!
Alternative title: The immoral soldier
weird fishes. good song. you have good taste
He has impecable taste aswell as radiohead he likes mf doom to
Great vid. Could do without the constant zesty bigot shilling tho
Seperate the content from the creator. I think his use of slurs is disgusting but I can appreciate when he makes a good video.
@@elmaxoTF2 allowing a racist transphobe to keep their platform and spread their harmful narrative to impressionable young people because "they make cool tf2 vids 😎"
I ain’t got the energy to debate this. I don’t think he’s a good person but I like the video he made. Simple as that.
“Constant zesty bigot shill” we love hyperbole!
Finally someone else with sense in the community. It's a shame because the video isn't a bad video, but that plug considering everything that's going on - and the fact that it's just free advertising, despite falsely believing you can separate that (lol) - is tone deaf at least.
But you know, what can you do. At least the OP acknowledges his shittiness, more than I can say for a lot of people who on the contrary aren't very intelligent.
BB + gunboats + escape plan has always been my fav, it lets you suicide bomb with 2 rockets, then either surf your own rockets at point blank or pull out the escape plan to bail. Very fun to rocket jump "through" people. Only downside is when a medic ubers you at 1 rocket left and you suddenly have to pull out the escape plan, awkward.
Now that I think about it, the black box and gardener might work well together. The whole reason why you don't aggressively jump with the box is that your damage output isn't as good. But the gardener mitigates that, allowing for a somewhat-aggressive black box loadout. The general playstyle of this would be to jump in, garden someone, then retreat on foot while shooting your 2 rockets at enemies to both get them away from you and heal; even potentially killing another player while doing so.
i love how he plays Bodysnatchers by Radiohead in the background
With the black box, every enemy becomes a health kit.
The instrumental of might be wrong was a nice addition to the video
it was actually the thing that swung me round to subscribing
LOVE the use of Radiohead's Weird Fishes as background music! 1:37
Never thought I’d hear Radiohead, bladee, and weezer in a tf2 tutorial