I think Dan pulled rank here. Think about it. First Tour starting in Italy. First Tour not finishing in Paris. Possible Giro-Tour Double. Dan’s employee number is 001. HE has earned this.
Kudos for the detailed measurements and finally for someone measuering his hoods c-c! 32cm is proper narrow! Only downer I spotted is the finishing tape 😢
I remember in 2018 watching Dan review Chris Froome's 2017 Pinarello F10, that was the day I got hooked into cycling. I still watch that review from time to time and it always draws me back into loving bikes.
Only a few more pennys, and my life will be complete ! Thank you GCN, now I know the purpose of my life is 6kg of carbon and a hulk sticker, for a year's worth of generous labor
Very interesting video from Dan including Pogs measurments. Quite a standard set up apart from the little detailed parts. So it also seems that the 165 mm cranks are becoming more acceptable . Amazing to see how much things change over the years.
The founder of Frame and Gear, Kristoffer is just an amazing person. Bought their rear mech hanger for my bike, the screw wasn’t to spec so I reached out and he took no time in responding and wanting to sort out the issue straight away. Their products are also genuinely great, the build, fit and finish are amazing. Not paid or anything, but would highly recommend❤ edit: got charged by grammar police
Ahah, I got no idea who Kristoffer is, but... I bought a Framesandgear Wahoo mount for my V4Rs and can attest that the quality (both design and manufacturing) is excellent! 👌
@@gcntech found it on Marketplace frame and group in almost immaculate shape for 2200 USD. Just had to put a saddle and already had a set of carbon wheels that I put on. Ferrari red it’s stunning and I love it. Never letting it go. Amazing how no one wants rim brake bikes out there but that is their loss.
Excellent !,..Used to buy the official Tour de France guide every year but have stopped as they haven't covered the tech side for a few years now,..This makes up for it ,thanks !
im pretty sure the nose of the saddle is not 9cm behind the bottom bracket. this is a zero offset seatpost and its shoved forwards a lot, i think its more at the limit to 5cm
No way that tip of the saddle is 9 cm behind BB.! In size 48,5 (as this frame is), the effective top tube is 53,5 cm. Combine that with 13 cm stem and 53,5 distance between tip of saddle to center of the bars. Just do the math...
The width of these tyres is insane. I used to your with a tent and full front and rear panniers and handlebar bag on 700x32 tyres and now the TdF is being won on 700x35's! I bet it's nice and comfy though!
Much as it's great to get the benefit of your presence here, missing you hugely on Eurosport's Tour coverage Dan. Politics I'll bet, yes I know there's no direct link now that GCN+ is no more, but they could've hired you as a pundit. Their loss, and obviously our loss. Back to Pog's bike, tip of the saddle 9cm behind the BB with it slammed forward on a seat post with no layback? That does surprise me.🤔
It’s my understanding Dan left to focus on moving GCN forward with all the recent changes. But yes it is a major loss to the racing coverage, Dan was my favorite by far. Also for the saddleback position, it makes sense. I have mine slammed foreward all the way on my Tarmac SL7 but it is still 19cm behind the BB. Might be due to my size 58. I wish I could get it even more forward but specialized doesn’t sell the special seat post Remco uses.
It is interesting that while his seat is obviously forward on the straight post the measurement you have for front of saddle to center BB is 9cm...Then again I guess these days many saddles have shorter noses & I do not know this saddle . Thanks for a great review/info video on his bike!
@@Competitor4Christ I agree. I read from here dmcx.com/2023/03/10/tadej-pogacars-bike-size-2023/ that it's been a 6,1cm in 2023. Hard to believe that is about 9cm now.
All this tuning, must be for financial reasons, or is it still impossible today to get Dura ace on a non aero small frame with 50mm wheels to weigh 6.8kg, stock?
Be cool to see what all the pro's of different heights and sizes set their cranks lengths at. I've a long inseam and was thinking of going down to 170's but then when I put my leg length into an online calculator(20% of leg length) it said I should be running a 181cm crank. lol Anyway I'm confused.
surprised you don't see those trick brake rotors on more team bikes. awesome way to negate some of the inherent excess weight of disc brakes. never thought I'd see 25mm internal-width wheels on on a pro road race bike.
@@pierrex3226 brilliant, be sure and tell that to team UAE. like everything in cycling, 'it depends', so in this case, under this rider, those rotors are the overall right call.
He said 9cm, but that's hard to believe if you see the 0° offset seapost, saddle tilt, postiton and the low saddle height. It's 7 at most. He also said 50T chainring, so maybe misspoke
Why don't they make downtube in a way that is almost brushing the front tire. That provides a cleaner airflow or is there any advantage to keep the gap. That I would sincerely love to know
@@einundsiebenziger5488 That didnt really answer his question, he didn’t ask why there is no one riding Campagnolo but whether it’s the first time or not.
@@sandydennylives1392 I never said they were, and with the exception of the chainrings, BB and rotors/pads that's all standard 9200 Dura Ace on this bike. As for the point about revenue, Shimano only sponsor six or seven World teams. UAE are one of those who source their equipment themselves either directly or via the bike sponsor. The change away from Campagnolo was prompted in part by the riders themselves who were requesting it as long ago as the 2022 Giro.
short cranks.... could they allow riders to get more from their calves. ie. the distance moved is less so a bigger proportion could come from dorsi flexion
crazy how cycling trends change over the years. 165 cranks are wildly short for a rider that height in the real world, but best believe there will be people copying that.
I doubt that shortening the cranks (less leverage) combined with larger chainrings (55/40 instead of 53/39 or 50/34, hence bigger diameter, hence requiring more leverage) will make anything more efficient.
damn Lloydy back doing pro bike video and the measurement is much more detailedddd. Just like old GCN days, welcome back Dan!
Beat me to it! This is what we ave always wanted to know!!!
yeah i really appreciate the detail in this video
Everyone will be riding 73.5 cm saddle height now
I will never use hookless rims.
I think Dan pulled rank here. Think about it. First Tour starting in Italy. First Tour not finishing in Paris. Possible Giro-Tour Double. Dan’s employee number is 001. HE has earned this.
Finally measurements are back,not just the laundry list of components...well done!
Kudos for the detailed measurements and finally for someone measuering his hoods c-c! 32cm is proper narrow! Only downer I spotted is the finishing tape 😢
I've done better finishing tape on my $100 klunker LOL
I remember in 2018 watching Dan review Chris Froome's 2017 Pinarello F10, that was the day I got hooked into cycling. I still watch that review from time to time and it always draws me back into loving bikes.
Great to have Dan back doing pro bike videos. More Dan, please.
Great to see Dan Lloyd doing this types of videos again. Looking forward to so many more!!
We love shooting with Dan 🙌
Amazing we finally get the bike fit measurements when looking at the pro bikes. Well done Dan
He's a pro 😎
What do you think of Tadej Pogačar's Tour de France bike? 🔥
Let us know in the comments! 💬
My favorite part is the mini hulk sticker, that has to be 30+ watts of aero improvement
Only a few more pennys, and my life will be complete !
Thank you GCN, now I know the purpose of my life is 6kg of carbon and a hulk sticker, for a year's worth of generous labor
Happy to see him following my advice on tire width
Colnago seatposts come with that 'fine sandpaper' pre-applied, it's not a custom mod.
Very interesting video from Dan including Pogs measurments. Quite a standard set up apart from the little detailed parts. So it also seems that the 165 mm cranks are becoming more acceptable . Amazing to see how much things change over the years.
It's really cool isn't it 🙌
The founder of Frame and Gear, Kristoffer is just an amazing person. Bought their rear mech hanger for my bike, the screw wasn’t to spec so I reached out and he took no time in responding and wanting to sort out the issue straight away. Their products are also genuinely great, the build, fit and finish are amazing. Not paid or anything, but would highly recommend❤ edit: got charged by grammar police
Wow, thanks a lot for the nice words. It is much appreciated! Cheers/ Kristoffer
Their products* are (plural, no apostrophe) / build, fit and finish are* amazing
@@einundsiebenziger5488 yes and english is hard
Got one of their out-front computer mounts, custom designed for my Ritchey stem/bars. It is a thing of beauty.
Ahah, I got no idea who Kristoffer is, but... I bought a Framesandgear Wahoo mount for my V4Rs and can attest that the quality (both design and manufacturing) is excellent! 👌
Love my V2R with SRAM Red etap and rim brakes. Those frames are incredible. And Colnago has to be thrilled to have him atop the latest version.
What a bike! How long have you had yours for? 👀
@@gcntech found it on Marketplace frame and group in almost immaculate shape for 2200 USD. Just had to put a saddle and already had a set of carbon wheels that I put on. Ferrari red it’s stunning and I love it. Never letting it go. Amazing how no one wants rim brake bikes out there but that is their loss.
Ferrari of bikes , hell of a ride you got my friend 👌
Excellent !,..Used to buy the official Tour de France guide every year but have stopped as they haven't covered the tech side for a few years now,..This makes up for it ,thanks !
Love the measurements! Is old GCN back?
Old GCN didn't go anywhere 😉
im pretty sure the nose of the saddle is not 9cm behind the bottom bracket. this is a zero offset seatpost and its shoved forwards a lot, i think its more at the limit to 5cm
I wonder if he meant to say 9mm.. I think this would be about right for a straight seatpin.
@@gerbryf 50mm is UCI maximium and im pretty sure it is close to that but im 100% certain its not 9cm
No way that tip of the saddle is 9 cm behind BB.! In size 48,5 (as this frame is), the effective top tube is 53,5 cm. Combine that with 13 cm stem and 53,5 distance between tip of saddle to center of the bars. Just do the math...
Great job Dan, love getting all the measurements
Great coverage, really loved all those details covered! Well done :)
Thanks! Always cool to get our hands on these top line pro bikes 😍
Thanks for the measurements Dan now I can setup my bike exactly as pogacar's
I was thinking the same. I'll have to get wedges for my cleats though, there's a 6cm difference in leg length 😂😂😂
Let us know how that goes 😉
The width of these tyres is insane. I used to your with a tent and full front and rear panniers and handlebar bag on 700x32 tyres and now the TdF is being won on 700x35's! I bet it's nice and comfy though!
Good stuff Mr Lloyd. I've been watching from the beginning. Very nice bike review of a likely winner of the big French bike ride.
So good. Getting Lloydy back in the field is brilliant.
Thanks Dan , and crew...elite ride for an elite athlete .
Thanks,* Dan and crew.* Elite* ride for an elite athlete.*
Nice to see you back!!! Greatest bike in the pro peloton. Another thing I like a lot are the sneakers!!! Super Nice!!!🔔😉
It's so hard to type comments, and mop up drool at the same time. Lovely detailed review Dan
Hahahah save the drool for later 😉
50T outer surely that's not correct.
It's 55t
if he's using same setup as giro, then it's probably 55t
@@markuozfanjo3725 Correct at @1:33 you can see numbers on outer chainring
@@cyclingchef3531does it say 55 or 50?
@@colecoleman1499 Look at 1:33 its 55-40 EVO
What is the frame size? a 535mm handlebar reach is pretty low for a bike with a 130mm stem.
Wolverine! great video!
Thanks for sharing with us
Thinking to get the 30mm tires!
: So glad to see Dan back at bike reviews!!
He's in his happy place here 🙌
Fantastic detail, love this approach. Cheers Dan
Dan is in the field! Loving it!
Great video! Always love seeing Lloydy in action
Well done Dan! Love all the number details.
Good to see you back in the trenches Dan! The only thing you’re missing is the weight and free hub sound check. 😂
Maybe they wouldn't let him do that
Very nice set up. Great job Dan.
Is it definitely only a 50 tooth front chain ring? Seems very small in relation to wee ring and the cassette on the rear. Great to see Dan back
Excellent details Dan.
Is that saddle setback figure of 9cm really correct? I can’t see it being right with what looks like an inline seatpost.
more like 3 or 4cm
That is some very compact posture for his height, does he ride with elbows bent at 90 degree?
Much as it's great to get the benefit of your presence here, missing you hugely on Eurosport's Tour coverage Dan. Politics I'll bet, yes I know there's no direct link now that GCN+ is no more, but they could've hired you as a pundit. Their loss, and obviously our loss.
Back to Pog's bike, tip of the saddle 9cm behind the BB with it slammed forward on a seat post with no layback? That does surprise me.🤔
It’s my understanding Dan left to focus on moving GCN forward with all the recent changes. But yes it is a major loss to the racing coverage, Dan was my favorite by far.
Also for the saddleback position, it makes sense. I have mine slammed foreward all the way on my Tarmac SL7 but it is still 19cm behind the BB. Might be due to my size 58. I wish I could get it even more forward but specialized doesn’t sell the special seat post Remco uses.
Dan. Are handlebar measurements at the bottom centre to centre or on the outside?
It is interesting that while his seat is obviously forward on the straight post the measurement you have for front of saddle to center BB is 9cm...Then again I guess these days many saddles have shorter noses & I do not know this saddle . Thanks for a great review/info video on his bike!
Hi. Thanks great summary. to clarify ... are the tyres 28mm or 30mm?
Very cool Dan!
It is interesting to see all teams working with different bike manufacturers/makes.
We love the variety 🙌
Must be nice when every company who makes super light and super expensive parts wants them put on your bike. Good Luck Tadej.
The dream right! He's not short of fancy parts 👀
@@gcntech or talent, I hope he does pull off a double win.
Great content ! Telling matters must know 👍
Great review!
Uhhhhh hub sound check. That’s the most important part!!!!!!!! 😂
What a beauty! The only thing I can afford to buy is the sticker provided it’s not a carbon-made ultra-light sticker.😂😂
that chainring is sick dang
wow, 9 cm from tip of the saddle to center of cranks seems a lot to me, considering the straight seatpost and the pushed-forward-saddle
Yea 9cm doesn’t seem right
@@Competitor4Christ I agree. I read from here dmcx.com/2023/03/10/tadej-pogacars-bike-size-2023/ that it's been a 6,1cm in 2023. Hard to believe that is about 9cm now.
Freehub soundcheck?
*furiously takes notes*
Good job Dan. Nothing to fear, after a five year lay off. Bob on.
Gotta do the waxed chain check Dan!
All this tuning, must be for financial reasons, or is it still impossible today to get Dura ace on a non aero small frame with 50mm wheels to weigh 6.8kg, stock?
Awesome review!! You forgot the wax check tho 😢
Ollie has told hi already 😉
Bar width is usually measured at the bottom of the hoods. Maybe more like a 36 or 38cm bar
My favorite bike in the peloton. Classic styling, not super aero looking. Just looks like a whole lot of fun to ride...
Nice report, nice bike.
Lovely bike. Things have certainly evolved over the last few years.
It's cool to see these allrounders isn't it 🙌
i read 55-40 on the chainrings…..
😊
Is this the secret motor doper version or the regular-pain-sweat-tears edition?
Be cool to see what all the pro's of different heights and sizes set their cranks lengths at. I've a long inseam and was thinking of going down to 170's but then when I put my leg length into an online calculator(20% of leg length) it said I should be running a 181cm crank. lol Anyway I'm confused.
very nice tour!
Wait, they do all these small changes to save grams. And then still use the shimono power meter??
what was the size of larger chain ring? 50?? that doesn't seem right
surprised you don't see those trick brake rotors on more team bikes. awesome way to negate some of the inherent excess weight of disc brakes.
never thought I'd see 25mm internal-width wheels on on a pro road race bike.
Sure, trimming down weight on the one thing that slows you down is something everybody should do, always.
@@pierrex3226 brilliant, be sure and tell that to team UAE.
like everything in cycling, 'it depends', so in this case, under this rider, those rotors are the overall right call.
Frame size?
What is the setback measurement from the center of the crank to the front of the seat?
He said 9cm, but that's hard to believe if you see the 0° offset seapost, saddle tilt, postiton and the low saddle height. It's 7 at most. He also said 50T chainring, so maybe misspoke
did I hear correctly? The outer chainring surely has to be bigger than 50 tooth?
It's 55 teeth (it's printed on the outer chainring about 2 cm below the rear end of the front derailleur, see at 1:33).
Why don't they make downtube in a way that is almost brushing the front tire. That provides a cleaner airflow or is there any advantage to keep the gap. That I would sincerely love to know
What size frame is he riding?
48,5
Dan !! The freehub !
Next time next tie
Bugger! I misread the title and though it said win this bike. You had my attention there! 👍
How do I change my chainring on a one piece shimano crank? Mine does not look like you can
Dan thinks he's rusty reviewing pro bikes...wrong! Great video.
We think so too 🙌
What size is the frame??
frame size?
The goog says 54cm, at 5’9” and weighs nothing 146lbs
If Shimano crank power meter is good for Pogačar then it's good for everybody.
Is this the first year Campagnolo is completely absent from the TdF?
Campagnolo does not sponsor a world tour team at the time, that's why.
@@einundsiebenziger5488 That didnt really answer his question, he didn’t ask why there is no one riding Campagnolo but whether it’s the first time or not.
I believe it is, yes.
@@Mockenrue Shimano has greater revenue to sponsor the pro scene, they are not 'better' than Campy, and Pog has very little pure dura ace on his bike
@@sandydennylives1392 I never said they were, and with the exception of the chainrings, BB and rotors/pads that's all standard 9200 Dura Ace on this bike. As for the point about revenue, Shimano only sponsor six or seven World teams. UAE are one of those who source their equipment themselves either directly or via the bike sponsor. The change away from Campagnolo was prompted in part by the riders themselves who were requesting it as long ago as the 2022 Giro.
Tadej would win on my Halfords mountain bike bought in 1995.
꿈만 같은 일이지만 기회가 된다면 저 자전거에 한번 앉아보고 싶군요. 라이딩을 할 수 있다면 절대 잊을 수 없을 겁니다
short cranks.... could they allow riders to get more from their calves. ie. the distance moved is less so a bigger proportion could come from dorsi flexion
It's to open up the hip angle and make it more comfortable to ride in aggressive positions
@@invisiblescout6335 aye, I know. I was wandering if it might have another advantage
weight? freehub sound check??
What is the frame size of Tadej’s bike?
Its a 485.
Primoz roglic Shiv TT and Tarmac plz🙏
I'll promptly go out and buy a little Hulk sticker for my stem!
Good am to see you back. Weight and freehub next time ;)
We'll get him up to speed for next time 😉
Hub nosie check?
30mm Conti, i guess that means he is not using the "TT" version of the tires (which i think their largest is 28mm).
Where u not allowed to weigh it?
Looks much better than regular aerobikes!
It's a great looking bike right!
crazy how cycling trends change over the years. 165 cranks are wildly short for a rider that height in the real world, but best believe there will be people copying that.
I doubt that shortening the cranks (less leverage) combined with larger chainrings (55/40 instead of 53/39 or 50/34, hence bigger diameter, hence requiring more leverage) will make anything more efficient.
Not "wildly" short at all
50 tooth outer chainring ? Did I hear that correctly?
richard mille y on the stem?
Good for Pogacar. If he ever forgets his bike fit measurements, he can just rewatch this video to get his bike fit setup right!
That mini hulk is a prime example of why he is adored so much 😂
Thank, instead of saving for mts to get a copy of this beautiful bike, I can just get the special hulk stickler and go vrooommmm!
Price?