LOST EXPLAINED PART 30 - WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THE END?
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2021
- #LostExplained #LeaveNoQuestionUnanswered
The FINAL chapter in a series of LOST EXPLAINED videos that investigate the mythology and mysteries from the seminal television series LOST. These definitive explanations are based on multiple viewings of the show over the years and careful studying of the details, clues, inconsistencies and contradictions that make up the complex tapestry of what is the greatest television show from the 2000s.
Chapter Thirty caps the series off by exploring the lesser asked questions about what happened after Ajira 316 left the island in the series finale. Did they go into hiding or did they tell the world the truth? What did Hurley do as the new protector? Did Jack become the next smoke monster? All of these questions (and many more) are explored in this last chapter that brings to a close the LOST EXPLAINED series.
There will be further explorations of LOST on this channel, so watch this space for future videos.
ABC owns all copyright. The footage used in this video is for educational purposes only and fall under fair use.
Music: Das Rheingold - Prelude by Richard Wagner. - Розваги
*ATTENTION! For viewers who take issue with the text-to-speech voice*
All of these older videos have been entirely revoiced and remade in better quality (and feature A LOT more detail). They have been combined together as part of a six part video series called The Theory of Everything, which you can watch here: ua-cam.com/play/PL5iTj9psbPrNovFOg4pJJIyxiLAv2WAKB.html
Namaste! 🙏
I have a theory. You’re actually Damon Lindelof
Or Carlton Cuse! 😆
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 😂 busted!
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Sarnoff
A potential follow up series should be called FOUND, and oughtta deal with the children. Walt is the leader and Aaron has turned towards the dark side. Those two would battle it out for control of The Island. I’d like to see that.
He is part of the propaganda arm of the Darma Institute
I wouldn't mind seeing a mini series on Vincent. That dog must've had some adventures all over the island
I think we all secretly wanted a Vincent flashback episode 🙏
It would be funny if Vincent was the new smoke monster.
or Vincent becomes the new guardian of the Island!
That dog’s actor’s name was Madison, and she lived for 21 years somehow, she was destined to be Vincent lol
I would LOVE to watch a sequel series following the children of the survivors trying to find answers, all while respecting and adding the mythology.
I think I’d actually like to see that too. A twist they could put on it would be that their children are well-adjusted, generally happy people who seek out the Island to help protect and preserve it, but who soon must fend off a dark force from the outside world (as opposed to the MIB/Smoke Monster from within), and with the guidance and help of the Protector, Walt (instead of Jacob putting people in situations).
Oh yeah. That was all in Season 7. You must have missed it!😁 It was a great season! But my favorite lost season was season 10 with Aaron and Clementine making some shocking discoveries. Really mind blowing!🤯🤯🤯 I'm sure glad they never stopped producing seasons of Lost. That would have been a horrible decision!🤬😁
this would be awesome.
Thank you so much for this series. You’ve deepened my appreciation of what was already one of my favorite shows.
That is really great to hear! I’m pleased you have found this series worthwhile and enriching. 😊
Great video, as always.
I like to believe that Richard became a millionaire from his Guyliner business. "Maybe he's ageless? Maybe he's Ricardus?"
👌😂
I re-watched LOST earlier this year and once finished wondered how the internet felt about the show all these years later. I also wanted to compare my understanding of the show to others and I stumbled across your channel. What an amazing series you have made, I must of watched 17 episodes back to back the first day I started watching. Answered all my questions and theories and many, many more I didn't even think about. Personal favorite is the Mr Eko episode, when you mentioned that Eko wasn't in the church in the flash sideways at the end because he had already made peace and moved on and we had already seen a glimpse of the flash sideways with him and Yemi.....wow!!
Great work, looking forward to what you do next!
Thank you for the kind comments. I’m honestly ecstatic to see LOST fans like yourself embrace these videos and to find them enriching in some way. It’s the whole reason I set out to make them. 👌
I just wanted to add my voice to the others praising you for this video series. “Lost” is easily the most creatively and thematically ambitious television series ever made, which your videos illustrate in a vivid way. I wonder if anyone has pointed Damon and Carlton to your channel? Thank you for all the hard work you put in to writing and editing your series!
Thank you for watching and commenting :)
That ending and music gave me chills. What a superb finale this was!
I think it's Wagner/Ring opera from the opening as the Reinmaidens are introduced.
Terrence Malick used it wonderfully in The New World as the closing music to Pocahontas's death and return journey home.
I cant imagine how much time it must have taken you to assemble and write up the information for all these episodes. Thanks for your service
It has been a lot of work but great responses from fellow fans such as yourself has made it all well worth the effort and time :)
I'll admit, the thought of Hurley burying Jack and John next to each other got me a little misty eyed.
Of course Hurley recovering the body of John would have been quite a feat for him (or for anyone for that matter!) 🤔 😁
@@x_trio_3_po333 Lockes real body was buried during season 6
@@r6nr373 You're absolutely right! I had totally forgot that scene where Ben had buried the real John Locke on the Island and confessed to murdering him. And even if that scene never happened, I was still in error in implying that the person Kate shot and killed, and that Jack had kicked over the cliff, was Locke's real body. For it was the MIB's real and now mortal body under the guise of Locke that was sent off the cliff. Thanks for the correction!
The only thing left unanswered is, where's Christian Shepherd's real body? Jack never got a chance to bury his father.
@@x_trio_3_po333 man in black most likely took Christian’s body when the plane crashed and hid it underground somewhere so he could pose as him without raising any questions.
Some in my family think I am a bit wacky because of my passion for Lost Podcasts and videos. The Lost Explained series has deepen the mythology and enjoyment of the best story in TV history. Now some assumptions I had always had post “The End”
1) Hurley was way more chillaxed vs any other leader
2) Walt and the kids of the Oceanic crew all returned to the island
3) There will be another evil being that will try to exploit the island
4) Ricardo returns to the Canary Islands
5) Jack’s kid in the sideways was real. Kate was pregnant.
6) Dogun’s son will come to the island
7) Desmond spends very little time on the island before getting back home.
8) Rose and Bernard move to Hydra 😊
Thank you for the awesome series.
This channel is truly an achievement. Keep up the great work about this great show.
Thank you for the kind words 😊
This is true: I was on my way home tonight and as I got off the train, I remembered and said to myself, “It’s Sunday! The new Lost Explained video is out today!” Can’t wait to watch it.
Thank you for your continued support :)
I swear, I had just come to your channel earlier on today - thinking to myself, "there hasn't been a new video for a while", and was starting to get "the itch"... then BOOM!, you release a new video!, What an amazing way to end and start off a new week!. Thank you... now - let me watch this episode!.
I really hope whoever makes another Lost series in the future would watch this vid first, this is very well thought out. Your theory of Hurley "redoing" the island guardian SOP is spot on!
I really loved your series on Lost. It's insightful and presented well. Thank you for all your hard work. Wish there was more 🙂
There will be more coming. Stay tuned! 😉
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Oh thank goodness! I look forward it! Oh quick thought, when I was going to your playlist to play it in order it starts from episode 30 on down. Is there a way to change that? Thank you again.
Thank you for all of your great videos and commentary of the Lost series. I learned a lot from your insightfulness and analysis of the show. I'd love to see some sort of comeback of the series, even a "follow-up movie" would be great.
I can't decide if I would be terribly worried or incredibly excited if a reboot happened. TV has grown so much since Lost and there's a built-in fanbase that would all but guarantee ratings.
I feel the same way. If done right, a spin off could be very exciting and full of potential. But in the wrong hands, made by the wrong people, it could be horrible. I’m a big believer that it has to be a continuation rather than a fresh reboot. A 10-episode limited series would be the best place to start, following Ji Yeon and Aaron as the leads who are looking for the island (Ji Yeon trying to discover the truth of what happened to her parents and Aaron looking for his birthplace). Something self-contained and focused. Test the waters. Only bring back a couple of familiar faces from the OG cast too, like Malcolm David Kelley. If the limited series works and is successful, they could do another and use its success to draw back a couple of bigger original cast members for the next year. I think there is absolutely room for more stories, but they have to be told by good writers who understand the show and know how to build on it rather than rehash what’s already happened or undermine it.
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 that is such an interesting idea. Something more self-contained would be great for building mystery around the next generation. My biggest question is what would be the conflict? Does Walt become a villain over time? Do former associates or enemies of Widmore somehow find the island? There's so much potential.
I don't know how many times I rewatched lost. This is a masterpiece for ages. I don't have any other tv show of that kind I'd want to watch all over again. I have never been a fan of what happened after speculation, but your videos made me change my mind😅
Thank you for this amazing work! I believe that these videos will be watched by me many times more!
That is great to hear! :)
Same. I have not found another series worth watching over n over
I’m glad I have the closure I needed for this show. A huge thank you to your exceptional knowledge, and attention to detail. You’re absolutely incredible, n cannot thank you enough for what you have done, you’re amazing n so much respect to you sir👌🏻💯
You really have given this series a whole new dimension with all your hard work and attention to detail. Each episode of Lost Explained is a gem. The Source did a good job while Hurley was protector, I like to think it was under his "time" that It inspired you 😊!
Thank you for supporting the channel. Your comments have been very much appreciated along the way 🙂
Yes very incredible attention to detail. Are you paid to do this?
I'm rewatching the series now after the algorithm reminded me of your amazing videos. All of them really make you appreciate the series as a whole.
Really beautiful capstone to an insightful and thought provoking series.Thank you for all your hard work on this. Lost will always be my favourite show ever.
I got chills at the end! Thank you so much for these beautiful videos on an exquisite story❤️
Thank you for being part of the journey 😊
This is a great video. I don't believe that anyone who has watched and loved LOST hasn't speculated about the fate of the survivors. I like the "Shawshank" parallel. The idea of Lapidus pulling of an undetected landing on Mexico's Pacific coast is appealing. And as someone, as you might remember, who has constructed a detailed theory as to why David Shephard makes sense as a real person, I like to think that Kate would have found a way to bring Jack's mother into their lives. Getting to know David would have made the pain over the deaths of Christian and Jack somewhat more bearable for her.
I also like the idea of Richard returning to Tenerife as a base. He was so used to spending the bulk of his life in an island environment that it makes perfect sense, although I'm sure he'd also continue to travel the world from time to time. And of course, the whole "LOST: The Next Generation" concept with Ji Yeon, Aaron, Walt, Zach and Emma, Charlie, Clementine, perhaps David, is seductive, and is the one "spin-off" that could actually work at some point in the future. All food for thought.
I love the idea of David Shepherd really existing and getting to know his grandmother. That's a great point! As always, I love your insights on the show.
While I respect the notion of David being Kate’s son… I also think he’d play a bigger role in her flash-sideways if he was. The solution to this and I can’t take credit for the theory… is that David is Aaron.
David is pointedly told to stay with Claire about halfway through the finale and then we never see him again. Being confused for Juliet’s son in the flash-sideways works symbolically due to her largely unseen tangential relationship to his birth and her role in life as midwife to an immaculate conception… the serums Ethan is injecting Claire with were all designed by her, based on the original serum for Rachel.
So I guess this episode is the finale of the explanation. Brilliant, great, magnificent. We are no longer Lost
I just started rewatching lost on Hulu. Halfway through season one. Interesting to see all the seeds that were planted and these excellent videos help explain many more details. Keep 'em coming! A+
Thanks again for this series. Loved the finale!
My son and I are working on a Lost The Next Generation fan fiction. Nice to hear that others have some of the same story ideas.
What did you come up with?
I would guess Sawyer didn't love anyone else after Juliet because they rekindled in the light after death and were together at the funeral
I suppose that love is relative to the person and relationship. You can love more than one person in a lifetime. We can be fairly certain that all the surviving characters had other partners they loved as the years went on. It’s doubtful that none of them ever dated or had relationships going forward. They just weren’t relationships that were as meaningful as the ones they had on the island.
I think the relationships between the Losties went beyond love. They were soulmates. Connected beyond the physical realm of experience. Their respective “inner lights” were entwined in both life and death, and beyond.
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Great answer! 🙂🙂🙂 You should really do a UA-cam series on Lost!.... Oh wait!....😁
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 I agree other than with Sayid, Nadiya clearly seemed more like his soulmate than Shannon who he knew for barely a few months
I have a take on the whole Sayid/Nadia/Shannon conundrum.
If we forensically analyse the Sayid and Nadia story their relationship was this: they grew up together as children; she liked him but he didn't like her. As adults, they meet again as torturer and prisoner. He literally tortures her for months. They develop a strange co-dependency during these unhealthy, violent interactions. Their relationship at this point is not too dissimilar to Stockholm Syndrome where hostages and their captors develop a bond and feelings of intimacy, even though the bond comes from a dark place. Eventually, he helps her escape, out of crushing guilt. Years after the war, he seeks to find her again. It becomes an obsession. Off the island, when they find each other again, they enter into what appeared to be a happy relationship for a short time. But I'm not sure how healthy that relationship would have been in reality. Think about their awful history. He tortured her! And did terrible things in her name after her death. He killed innocent people. In the flash-sideways, Sayid finally acknowledges that they are not meant to be.
The truth is: Nadia brought out the worst in Sayid. His darkest impulses and behaviours stemmed from that relationship.
With Shannon, like so many of us in life, we fall in love when we least expect it. And I think both Sayid and Shannon were blindsided by finding a connection to each other, the least likeliest of people, which is what made their coupling so beguiling. We have to acknowledge that Sayid and Shannon were destined to fall in love because their fates were intertwined by forces beyond their control. They were soulmates, connected by the light. The Island guided everyone in both small and large ways. The people on the island were connected beyond the small amount of time they really knew each other.
Sayid's relationship and obsession with Nadia was simply so he could follow a path to the Island. Where he would find Shannon and a new beginning. She brought out the best in him. And this relationship led him to grief, then back to Nadia, then vengeance and darkness, and finally, redemption back on the island. In the sideways, Sayid and Shannon help each other to remember these truths about one another. They only knew each other for a few weeks in life, but their souls (like our other Losties) were connected beyond time and space.
For real dude this channel is amazing your explanations are better than any other source material ive seen on lost
Just watched all 30 episodes in this Playlist and found it absolutely fantastic, bravo 👏
A: Thank you for this video series! Anyone who knows Lost knows this was a huge undertaking, but it’s also evident it was a labor of love. This was such a satisfying experience and I personally feel that you hit the nail on the head. I’m glad you plan to add to this, because I’m looking forward to more!
B: As far as Ajira returning to the mainland, do you think there could be a third option where through time fluctuations they arrive conveniently where they don’t need to answer questions and they don’t need to lie? I haven’t fleshed this out at all, but I do agree an Oceanic 6 scale coverup should be out of the question.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Ajira leaves the island bubble and appears at an earlier point, perhaps just after it initially disappeared. There is no indication that this happened but because of what was happening with the light in the cave at the same time it is certainly feasible. However, they would still need to explain where all the other passengers disappeared to, and why they picked up presumed dead Oceanic passengers such as Claire and Sawyer. Which takes us back to the first two options -- either they land somewhere in secret and go into hiding, or they land at an airport and go public.
Thank you for so much for all of these remarkable videos! You really explained the brilliance of the story of all six seasons; in my opinion, in a way that I always felt and resonated with myself but couldn’t articulate so clearly until you explained things so coherently and concisely in these videos. I also love how you only used evidence from the show itself to explain the story and the themes of grey morality, the opportunity of redemption and the ideas of moving on that were clearly intended through the whole series thematically by the writers as evidenced through all the the scenes of the show. Using the “Across the sea” episode as a base to establishing the narrative of what the island is and what the light inside the source was and its purpose and why people were fighting over it; as well as who Jacob and MIB/Smokey and Mother were and what their roles were and meant; and how that tied to everything that happened in the rest of the show; was a brilliant starting point to explaining the rest of the mysteries of the show in my opinion. These videos were excellently made, edited, written; and I can’t wait for the rest of the content you plan to make about this show. From a fellow forever lost fan; thank you so much for your great work; and Namaste. Looking forward to new content!
What a wonderful response! Thank you for the support and kind words. I’m so pleased to hear that I’ve shed some light on the mythology for fellow fans. It’s the best I could have hoped for 👍🙂
"Lost Explained" is now the only person qualified to write a "Season 7" script, or write a long awaited sequel called "LOST: The Next Generation". 😁 I can't wait for that to be released. But not on ABC, but rather on HBO. 😁
Your videos have expanded my (already great) love of Lost. I have rewatched certain episodes of the series in recent months, with the purpose of seeing them from the perspective of the answers given in your videos. So rich and rewarding. Lost and The Island have the most interesting mythology/backstory/arc of any other fictional world besides J.R.R. Tolkien’s and George RR Martin’s.
I am delighted to hear that! If even one of my videos helps to enrich the viewing experience for a fellow fan then I feel like I have accomplished what I set out to do. :)
Thank you so much for these videos! ❤️👍🏼
You did a great job!!!
A+
The absolute greatest synopsis of Lost I’ve ever seen. Great videos. Anyone who’s ever loved lost should watch your entire series.
Thank you for doing these videos, they were brilliant and filled a lot of gaps and also explained a lot! There are many good and brilliant shows out there, bit Lost is forever my number 1. Lost is unique, a once in a lifetime experience 💙
Also, great conclusion to a great series covering a great show. Really enjoyed each of the 30 episodes here. Makes me want to rewatch the entire 6 seasons all over again (if I ever find the time).
You should do it! Watch it in bitesize chunks each week/month. The re-watches are always rewarding.
This is awesome!
This was great. A bittersweet ending to this series, but I look forward to the next.
A great end of the video. Excellent work, my friend.
You are doing an excellent job with this channel
Thank you for the great videos
People still can't get enough of LOST !
An absolutely fantastic Saturday watching 1-30! Thank you so much for your amazing insights into LOST!
I am following you now.
As always, stay LOST! 👏👏👏👏
Thank you, Sonya! Don't forget to watch the latest videos on the channel in which I explore more specific frequently asked questions about the show. Lots more content to come :-)
Great work!
honestly i could see that... a Lost: The next Generation where basically their kids find the island and its there story and it sort of builds on not just them and their lives but also gives fans more backstory on what makes the island so special
If Hurley is able to speak to the ghosts, I wonder what would've happened if he spoke with Nikki and Paulo - I believe there was some sort of misunderstanding in the closing scene of the glorious TV masterpiece which is the episode 3x14.
Yeah only Miles Straume apparently "spoke" with Nikki. But Hurley would have been devastated to learn that he and Sawyer inadvertedly murdered them. I too love that Razzle Dazzle episode with its awesome twist ending right out of the Twilight Zone! 🥰
@@x_trio_3_po333 "Expose" is THE most underrated Lost episode - it's so freaking scary and self-aware at the same time.
fantastic set of analysis
Thank you for your videos. This is probably one of the most complex and interesting TV series ever created. Hope but I doubt there will ever be anything like it ever again.
Agreed! Be sure to check out the new LOST EXPLAINED FAQ series on my channel, which explores specific questions/mysteries in more detail.
One thing I haven't seen anyone discuss is what happened to Ben after the church scene where everyone else moved on. Methinks he stayed on to wake up Danielle and her daughter and that they moved on together later. Since no one could find the island without Jacob's help, Danielle and her daughter were in many ways like the survivors of flight 815.
I agree with the notion that Ben did a Desmond and went on to "wake up" other people connected to his past, including his father Roger Linus, and Danielle and Alex Rousseau, possibly "Others" like Ethan and Tom. I like to think that Ben eventually came to terms with his actions and moved on with this island-based group of people.
I just loved the use of "Das Rheingold" at the end!
Thank You !
Very good series of explanations. I just finished Lost a few days ago and your series answered all my questions. Thank you and well done.
So pleased to hear that! Don' forget to watch the latest videos on the channel. It's a new series called "LOST Explained FAQ" in which I drill down into the details of the most frequently asked questions, such as Libby's backstory, "The Purge", why pregnant women were dying, who the real Henry Gale was, etc. The answers continue!
I've been watching these out of order. I never knew you did so many. Not lying when I say you really gave this a lot of effort to me understanding things better even a dozen years after. I've mentioned your UA-cam on my blog--I'm a writer, so it doesn't relate to LOST--and even brought it up on Quora. Anything to help your channel get watched and appreciated more. Stay Lost, brutha.
Thank you for helping to spread the word! 🙏 What’s your blog called?
Thanks! 🔥💛
Thank you so much for these! I followed a reddit link and I’m really thrilled that I did. I just watched the show for the first time, and beginning to end, so I’m pretty overwhelmed trying to make sense of it all. I’m not a natural scifi fan, so my brain is pretty sore, but in a good way. Your videos feel like a massage and Icy Hot 😂
Love your analogy! 😂
Always incredible content once you watch one video you want to watch more watch more of your awesome videos explore more of the lost mythology and world but also wanna watch lost reactions and see new people to the lost world reacting to each episode and being intrigued and confused by the story like we were the first time we watched it lol. Awesome incredible work. Thank god for you. Thank Jacob and the source for you and this spectacular channel. See you in another life brotha. Or see you in another video brotha lol
Thank you for watching (and for all of your supportive comments), Chris! 🙏
Thank you so much for this series, even though lost ended 11 years ago, lost will always remain my favourite series. Your insight is really inspiring.
I really appreciate you saying that. Thank you! 🙂
Thanks for the explanation videos. I like the discussion about Walt being a Protector. One of the things that frustrated me was how early in the series there was attention given to Walt, his developing relationship with Locke and the game of backgammon and discussions that they had. When Walt was taken their was an idea about how important Walt was. Then he was gone. I understood he was used to manipulate Michael into assisting Ben but it seemed that they were building to something bigger than that. Your explanation ties that up in a satisfactory way.
What I dig about the channel is that almost all it's theories are logical extrapolations from the facts we're given. So, it never feels like we're treated to just some fan's hopes of how it all fits together.
Well done!
If we're talking about landing the plane somewhere, I think Richard could be very useful with guiding Lapidus to the Herarat Aviation airport we saw in "One of Us" (the one they landed at after flying from Miami), close enough to be on a submarine ride to the Island. It might be quite secluded - possibly controlled by off-island Others/Mittelos.
That's a great idea. It makes sense that they would go there.
Kate was always the 2nd most important character on Lost. This confirms it, Hurley & Sawyer 3rd & 4th
& Locke
1) locke
2) jack
3) Kate
4) hurley
5) sawyer
I'm bouncing around as if the Island was skipping, and I just watched this way after you posted it. But I wanted to tell you that I agree with 80% or more of your speculations. I definitely consider David to have been conceived on the night before Jack and Kate returned to the Island, and to be -- as Pinocchio would say -- a real boy. Wonderful job.
I don't think they revealed to the world that they were alive, although they would have to their loved ones. I believe Hugo provided them all with enough money to "disappear". I think Frank and Miles would go back almost immediately. Frank because he was conspicuously dead to the world, and moving to the Island would at least allow him to continue flying, and Miles because the Island truly changed him, and he would feel he belonged there. I believe all of them would go back to the Island eventually, including many other characters from the show connected to them, to form a society dedicated to community, spiritually connecting with the Source, serving the Island, and enjoying the rest of their lives. BUT, I actually may prefer your scenario of having the younger generation take over, without the old characters. Thanks, again, for your amazing work!
I have been afraid to re-watch the show because it just meant SO much back in its original run- tho I was *not* a fan of the last season. I've been afraid I wouldn't like it as much re-watching, but your videos have made me appreciate the show in a new light again! Thanks so much for all the effort you put in them!
That makes me so pleased to hear! If I can help enrich or expand upon the show in a way that makes both old and new fans (and even some sceptics) want to re-experience and reassess the series in the positive then I feel like I've done my job! I hope you give it another watch.
Yippee! I finished my rewatch a few weeks ago with my mom.
Did she like it? What were your feelings rewatching it again?
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 she thought she’d watched all of it but she realized that she never actually finished it. By the end of our rewatch she was begging for it to all be over. For me though, I never realized just how much everything was connected. A lot of the later season lore I completely missed, but your videos were a great help in my noticing of all the interconnected details and lore. I had fun. My mom got burned out though 😂
@@tam2237 Was she "American Mum"? 😁 ua-cam.com/video/na6rQEyW9_c/v-deo.html
This is so interesting. So many parts of this I did not consider. Calling Jack and Locke the two men of faith.......wow.
Such a great show
Ben already had the ability to speak to his dead mother. I like to think Hurley helped him rediscover and develop his lost and latent powers. Unlike Miles, Ben’s powers as a child are even seen to be basically equivalent to Hurley’s. Which is an especially nice dynamic for their working relationship and shared responsibility to train Walt and the next generation of Island custodians.
Also, Ben could definitely think of some really cool dead historical figures to talk to. More so than laying anyone else to rest, I think he’d find great solace in talking to inspired generals, brutal dictators and conflicted authors with complicated lives. Basically as his own form of personal therapy, but also probably so he could write intimate historical biographies.
I absolutely love that idea!
I watched lost years ago and it confused me, especially the ending. But it is my all time favorite show. I decided to rewatch it to see if i could figure it out. Some of it made more sense after watching it again but i still had lots of questions. So i did a little research online and gotma few answers. But they need to continue this show and show us everything that happened after jack dies, after kate, sawyer, miles, richard and the piolet left. What did hurley and Ben do. CONTINUE THE SHOW PLEASE!!
great video! I love your take on what may have happened after.
There’s a big hint about Hurley’s future in the side flashes - every time we see him try to use a gun, he doesn’t get very far and usually just holds it - but when we see Hurley use a tranquiliser gun on Charlie (in the side flash), he knew exactly what he was doing, with no hesitation… so I’ve always believed that whatever happened with Hurley as the protector, he learned how to use weapons… this makes me think his time as the protector wasn’t as smooth & peaceful as you’d expect…
I suppose there will always be some unanswered questions. A couple that come to mind are as follows.
1/ Why did Ben go to the area of Rousseau's camp when he got caught in her rope net trap (where Sayid cut "Henry" down early in the series)?
2/ Why was there never any evidence of pregnant women from the island dying in their third trimester as was claimed/feared? Surely this would have at least affected Sun of the characters we were familiar with.
2 only happens on the island
Ben either intended to get caught in order sell his story. Or he accidently got caught but then used that capture to create his balloon survivor facade. Either way worked for him in order to infiltrate the Losties.
My own unanswered questions have to do with Charles Widmore and Eloise Hawking and their back story. How did they originally get to the island?
And how did Richard travel to the Mainland U.S. in 1956 without a Dharma Submarine?
Claire didn't conceive on the island and was near the end of her pregnancy when she arrived. Sun conceived on the island but left very early in her pregnancy. It's possible though that Sun wouldn't have been affected anyway. Women were giving birth without issues during the Dharma times but dying before and during Juliet's stay. So likely the issues were caused by the Swan. After Desmond activated the failsafe, the Swan probably was no longer damaging to pregnancy.
I really love the idea of a spin-off with the kids of the survivors hunting down the truth of their pasts.
Legends say that Richard moved to Gotham city after leaving the island, and became the mayor
Christians whole message to Jack was to let go. That was the beauty of Hugo’s rule- as is the core of leadership and modern political life in the world. You shouldn’t want it and identify with it. You should be a steward of power and carry it as far as you can in your time- and then completely let it go. Both MiB and Jacob had a hard times getting over themselves.
A prequel series about the Egyptians would be awesome, or even other island survivors that came before 815
Great final video, very interesting to consider what happens after it ends. I particularly liked a couple of your ideas for what Hurley might do - namely, spending time ending the whispers by helping those stuck on the island to move on, and making it so that future protectors can only (or, only *have* to) be such for 10 years.
I have one question that's always kind of perplexed me, even though it's not particularly important. (I didn't really know in which video to ask it, so I'm just doing so here in the last video.) In the season 4 premiere, The Beginning of the End, Hurley - because of Charlie's warning in his last moments - tells Jack that he's not listening to him, he's 'listening to his friend', Charlie (and thus goes with Locke). But later in the same episode, in the flash forward, when Jack comes to visit Hurley, he tells Jack: "I'm sorry. I'm sorry I went with Locke."
Essentially, my question is: Why does Hurley say this? I mean, if he himself regrets having gone with Locke, since almost everyone that did got killed by Keamy's team, that's one thing, fine. But why does he feel guilt and the need to apologize to Jack? Locke (and Charlie) turned out to be right about the freighter people - they weren't who they said they were and certainly weren't there to rescue them. And really, the only reason Locke's group was targeted by Keamy at all was that Ben happened to go with him instead of Jack, and later Alex was forced to lead Keamy to him. (When the camp split, and Ben said, "With your permission, Jack, I'd like to go with Locke," Jack could've easily insisted on Ben staying with him, simply for the reason he gave earlier - not trusting Ben with anyone but himself.)
So I'm interested in your thoughts on this. Again, nothing terribly big or important, but it's always bugged me. Thanks!
It's a good question. I see there being two reasons for this line -- one that is a narrative explanation and one that is a behind-the-scenes explanation.
The narrative explanation is simple. I think Hurley always felt guilty about not sticking with Jack. For three seasons he always went with Jack and backed him up, much like Kate did. And he wanted to apologise to his friend for letting him down during a crucial time for them both (getting off the island). You're right that Hurley made the right call at the right time because Locke ended up being correct about the freighter and its dangers, but going with Locke also led to many deaths even if they were beyond anyone's control. However, Hurley looks back on this differently and feels that because he went with Locke and encouraged others to do the same (and not stick with Jack) it led to their deaths. He feels culpable to some extent. He was certainly the prime reason that Claire went with him to Locke's camp, which led to her ultimate disappearance. The apology comes from him having a lot of time at Santa Rosa to think back on his decisions and regrets about leaving the island. This was one of his biggest. And it just so happened to be when he went against his friend Jack.
As for why this line really exists... I agree that the line does feel a little strange considering the context of the moment and episode now that we know everything that happens. By this point in the flashforward, years had passed and the camps splitting seems like a distant conflict. I think the only reason the writers threw this line in was for juxtaposition. We see Hurley going with Locke on the island then a scene later in the future he talks about regretting this decision. It's a way of bridging the flashforwards with the on-island events in the way they used to do with flashbacks. It is also a way for them to build intrigue in first-time viewers and make us ask: "Why is Hurley sorry for going with Locke? What happens to them?" And therefore sets up anticipation for the group's split and what will happen in season four. It works the first time around watching the show, but not quite as much the second time around.
There are a few moments in season four that suffer from this. The biggest offender for me is the 'Ji Yeon' so-called subplot with Jin getting the panda from the toy store, which ultimately is irrelevant to everything and is simply there to trick the audience. First time around, it's a sad surprise. Every time after that, it's pointless filler. It is among the few creative decisions from the show that I severely dislike.
I'm glad you have enjoyed (and engaged) with this video series. I hope you stick around for the next video series on the channel. Always appreciate hearing your thoughts! :)
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Yeah, fair enough. I still don't think he should've felt like he let Jack down, since the decision that let down this friend was made because of listening to his other (and arguably closer) friend who gave his life while passing on the intel - and because he turned out to be right and Jack wrong about the freighter people's intentions. Nevertheless, feelings of guilt and regret are just that - personal feelings, based on bonds of friendship, not based on who was right and who was wrong. So yeah, that makes sense.
I agree with your thoughts on the Jin/panda subplot - every time except for the first watch, it's pretty irrelevant to anything. But I guess not every creative decision can be a homerun.
Yeah, I've definitely enjoyed these videos. I've told some other family members about it, and am already gradually watching through them again with one of them. (I'd have to watch them many times to retain a lot of it.) Thanks for all your insightful (and quick) replies! If any more come to mind in the future, I'll definitely try asking here.
A nice way to end it mate. Outstanding effort. You really helped me make peace with a show I both loved and in small parts was frustrated and angry with. I always thought they'd reincarnate as different but similar people and meet again in some different but critically important destiny. The cycle would repeat but its a different one, as their souls had grown. Probably bullshit I know, but for some reason that's what my imagination made.
I tend to agree with that thesis. Especially seeing as the writersroom based the sideways on "the bardo" from the Tibetan Book of the Dead. Any and all readings of where the Losties went after the light filled the church can be valid. That's what makes that final scene so beautiful.
God, could you imagine that reunion between older Walt and Michael's apparition on island?? Chills.
beatiful enidng
Have been thinking and am struggling to think through how option 2 could play out. It seems in particular Eloise surely has to end up being implicated
After the Ajira flight goes missing, the media and authorities would have gone nuts at the idea that 5 oceanic 6 members decided to board the same plane and it went missing; they would be main suspects and their movements in the weeks before the flight fully looked at. The meeting at the church would definitely be discovered and surely Eloise Hawking/ the lamp post implicated.
Likewise I don't see how they could explain their ordeal upon landing without telling the authorities how they knew which flight to catch, and therefore about EH.
What would that mean for the losties explanation? is is possible to hide the dharma initiative from the authorities, they are directly traceable in the real world ?I imagine she would have destroyed the Lamp post and gone into hiding.
I don't know how much Eloise Hawking would be dragged into the equation. After all, did any of the surviving Ajira passengers really know anything about her? Kate never met her or went to the church/Lamp Post, nor did any of the returning islanders such as Sawyer and Claire. However, the complexities of their return remain, if they were to go public and not go into hiding. I don't think it would be easy sailing for them but if they presented a united front as a group -- including Captain Lapidus and previously thought dead passengers from Oceanic 815 -- it would be hard to charge them with any kind of new crime per se. Their version of events, as wild as some of it will sound to authorities, should have group consensus and support. However, working out how the authorities would handle such a story is the real headscratcher. Would they put everyone into custody for a year whilst trying to get to the bottom of this? Would they cover it up and try to seek out the island? Would they let them all go and just have to accept the story? There are many different possibilities. Enough to make up a whole season's worth of drama.
While the other version of events -- where they all simply go into hiding forever -- is a much cleaner way of handling questions/scenarios surrounding Ajira's return to the world, it also seems to contradict the implications of the finale and some of the character arcs. Kate would still be on the run. Sawyer would not be able to go fully legit. Claire and Aaron could never really live normal lives again. The lies of the Oceanic Six would continue, etc. So, it's a really tough call to make as to what Ajira did after it left the bubble. Both versions -- truth or hide -- throw up all sorts of ripple effects and questions. It's just as thought provoking as the questions left over from the sideways, if not more so.
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 I know it's not the most imaginative option, but what if they legitimately died in a plane crash? I mean they're plane probably doesn't have a lot of fuel left, has already sustained 1 crash and they are still near the island bubble, so maybe they go a little ways, and crash into the ocean. Again, not a very happy ending, but at least they get to the flash sideways world pretty quickly.
I think there should be another series called LOST a New Beginning. This was too great of a series to just let it die ! Some really creative writers could write an amazing story for it and great producer's and directors could bring it to life. Give the fans what they want! It would be a world wide success like Lost was .
I think after everything, Ben went off on his own and used the islands special communications to help people. As in..... Persons of Interest.. Right?... I always thought of that when watching that show
Interesting idea regarding the spinoff series. However, I would love a prequel with the ancient Egyptians and/or some other much older time ok the Island.
Question for the creator of these videos (absolutely amazing job by the way): What are your tthoughts on "The Leftovers"? I see so many parallels with Lost. Have you considered creating videos about that series or, at least, video(s) discussing the similarities between the two shows?
I love 'The Leftovers'! It's easily my favourite series of the 2010s. I agree that it definitely has parallels with LOST. I have no plans to make any videos that specifically explore 'The Leftovers' but I wouldn't rule out a video in future that compares the two shows in some way.
An awesome spin off would be one about ancient times on the Island
A Spin-off series with the idea mentioned in this video is actually a pretty great one! A great series would come out of it! Oh if only! lol
Shocked we haven’t got a lost reboot lol.
Like reboot or remake? A reboot wouldn't work, theres no more stories left to tell. I doubt a remake would work either, the new actors would constantly be scrutinized and compared to the original.
The only thing I think as being improbable involves Sawyer. The "Others" knew he had killed a man in Australia so chances are the authorities learned that too and he'd have been charged and imprisoned for murder.
That’s an interesting take on Sawyer’s off-island trajectory. He never truly paid the price for Frank Duckett’s murder in Oz. That would be a tragic outcome for his story but also a delayed karmic punishment.
How did the "Others" or the authorities even know? There were no witnesses to the crime. Nothing tangible to tie the murder to Sawyer except maybe the bullet with his imprint on it. Sawyer was deported and banned from Australia for getting into a bar fight. So the "others" knowledge of the murder is rather inexplicable. Unless the character played by Robert Patrick somehow blabbed his mouth off.
@@x_trio_3_po333 There's nothing to say that the authorities didn't find out just as Sawyer boarded Oceanic 815. The fact that The Others knew about it, kinda proves that he was found out.
The only issue I have with this idea is that Sawyer -- a man allegedly wanted for murder who died in the plane crash -- would be a huge media story. After the Oceanic Six return to the real world, they would be told and find out all of the drama surrounding their plane crash. Including that they had a rockstar aboard with them when they went down. And certainly they would hear about the fact they had been on the same plane as a murderer fleeing the country. Reporters might say: "Aren't y'all lucky he didn't survive the crash with you guys?"
Yet this is never brought up in the flashforwards or upon the Oceanic Six's return to the island. Kate never warns Sawyer: "They know about what you did." The Oceanic Six would definitely have heard about this. There is no indication that Duckett's murder was ever connected to Sawyer by the cops. The man was shot, seemingly randomly, out in the middle of nowhere with no witnesses.
The most likely way that The Others attained this information was no doubt from having their external agents track down Sawyer's associate Hibbs for interrogation. Remember, Sawyer was a con man with various identities so coming by data on his life story would not have been easy. They needed to talk to known associates, no doubt found through accessing his criminal records. Hibbs would have been the only one to know about who killed Duckett.
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Right, as I suggested. Hibbs, the only guy to likely blab about it. Especially since he would not welcome Sawyer coming back to the U.S. for another meeting with him. Still begs the question why the Others would even pursue this line of inquiry in the first place. What made them suspect Sawyer's involvement with Duckett's murder? Sawyer had no reputation for being violent. Nor any connection to Duckett whatsoever. The only link was that Sawyer was inexplicably in Sydney at the same time as the murder. But so were millions of others.
The only possibility is that Hibbs accidently blabbed about it while he was being interrogated by the associates of the Others on a completely different inquiry about Sawyer's background. Case solved!😁
I followed all your videos with attention. Since 2013 I'm developing my own sci-fi story, "Blue Angel Series" (there's a channel on UA-cam about it). It's influenced by LOST and also by my experience studying Physics. I rewatched LOST recently, and it was great to find your work to review some topics. I also have the book "Unlocking the Meaning of LOST" by Porter & Lavery, but it covers only one and a half seasons, and it's a little bit superficial. I hope you could organize all your content in a book someday.
About spin-offs and sequels, I hope they won't be done in the next 20 years at least. Unfortunately, in my opinion, we are experiencing today an era of extremely poor creativity and the advancement of a political agenda that permeates everything. The story is now secondary, and the most important thing today is to abide by this agenda. As you said in the video, it's time to move on and write something new. And independent. Congratulations on the work here.
I think it's time for Kate to finally face the consequences of her actions. would end up spending more than a minor stint in prison upon her return. Not only did she break her probation, but she had also lied about Aaron being her son for nearly three years. And then there is Carole Littleton, who would not forget that Kate had kept Aaron from her from 2.5 years. The last time Kate's status as a "heroine" was bandied about, the law was reluctant to convict her, especially since her mother Diane didn't testify against her. Kate can still face another trial over the murder of Wayne Jensen since she was never officially acquitted of the crime. But there is also the New Mexico bank robbery charge, for which she can definitely be prosecuted. There are plenty of witnesses to that crime. And considering the lie about Aaron, I don't see the law being reluctant to prosecute or convict her, regardless of her reason for returning to the island. Yeah, I see Kate spending at more than five years in prison upon her return. And in your alternate scenario regarding the Ajira survivors, why do you have Claire and Aaron with Kate and not Carole Littleton? Also . . . does this mean Sawyer will never face prosecution for the murder of Frank Duckett in Australia?
I’m sure ABC will bring it back one day
My heart sinks still years later that Jack died 😢
The dramatic orchestral music the last few minutes of this video sounds much like the opening of the Ring opera by Wagner. I'm just not 100% sure, so...am I right or wrong ?
Ending with an opening, "out of the box" lives on !
It is Wagner! Das Rheingold: Prelude. A superb piece of music.
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"Did Jack become the new Smoke Monster?" no offense, but anyone who thought this, doesn't really get Lost or the final season, especially the mythology and the series finale. Especially the overall psychology of it.
Sometimes I wonder if Jack became the next Smokey. The first flash sideways shows him disabling a smoke alarm in his hospital and being labeled a hero. He also dies in a similar way to MiB, albeit with far less radiation exposure. If Mother was a smoke monster, if would also repeat the succession path of Mother incepting the killing and replacement by MiB, then MiB being killed and replaced by Jack.
This video explains how smoke monsters could no longer be created due to the cork. Jack was not transformed hence why he emerges from the cave still inside his own body. The Man in Black was transformed instantly and his empty vessel of a body was spat out of the cave. Whereas Jack was still alive.
I always wondered if Hurley visited the Ajira survivors from time to time.