Were They Dead the Whole Time? - LOST EXPLAINED FAQ
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- Welcome to the LOST EXPLAINED FAQ. This video series addresses Frequently Asked Questions about LOST and drills down into the specifics of the show. The aim is to answer smaller, more complex questions that deserve their own explorations and deep dives.
First up in the FAQ is debunking the biggest myth about the show that there is and answering: "Were they dead the whole time?"
You can view the full LOST EXPLAINED video series here: bit.ly/3ab3LNy
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One fun thing about the quiet plane wreckage shots in the end credits is that you can also see Jack's tent in the background. The medical tent he had before he moved to the caves, with the blue tarp flailing in the wind. Once again, showing that the characters were alive after the crash.
That's a great observation!
Nice catch!
So in the 1st season it shows the plane breaking apart way up high. Jack conjectures they were at 37000 feet. I will go with your supposition that they are alive at this point. I looked up how high up you could go before you couldn't breath due to lack of oxygen. Turns out that about 26000 feet is the extreme limit of height a person could go before starting to experience lack of oxygen. So for about 11000 feet ( 2 miles), there is plenty of time to reach terminal velocity. It would take 31 seconds to get back under that 26000 feet range. It might be impossible to hold your breath at terminal velocity ( I don't know, I'm speculating here) . Plus you are likely rotating as you fall. I suspect people falling that 11000 feet are in panic mode and not thinking about trying to hold their breath for 30 seconds. Anyway,, the front half of the plane is going the speed it was when it broke apart. I don't know how fast or heavy the front half would be going. But I can't imagine that slamming into the ground at any speed from that height ( 37000 feet is about 7 miles maybe a bit more) would be survivable. Lets go to the tail section. and the show specifically about them. the opening scene shows many small projectiles slamming into the water ( the people in the tail section). All of them are in free fall and yes ii googled it and it turns out that terminal velocity is about 125.5 mph. I can't see how hitting anything even water at 125.5 mph is survivable. I suppose it would be akin to slamming into a 10 foot thick iron wall. Anyway somehow they all survived and lived. I'm not even going to go into how the oceanic 6 left the island or how Ben, Charles and Eloise and others were allowed to leave when Jacob wouldn't let them. If the writers are saying that they were alive the whole time then they are piss poor writers and on the level of George Lucas and therefore the entire series was trash writing and acting.
@@darrelmarchick6854 The show has a smoke monster and magic light beneath The Island's landmass, where terminal cancer is cured and a paralysed man can walk again without needing surgery. There is time travel and teleportation and characters with psychic powers. It's a science fiction show in which fantastical entities exist and impossible things happen. All of this requires a degree of the suspension of disbelief. Just like in 'Star Trek' you have to accept that spaceships travelling faster than light is possible. Getting hung up on the notion that no one could survive that plane crash is being needlessly pedantic, although I suspect it is more of a way for you to try and justify your own reading that they were dead the whole time. That said, we do know that there have been many survivors of plane crashes in real life, so that is probably the least impossible event on the show and not completely out of the realms of possibility. We know that the plane didn't crash in a normal way. It was being *pulled* towards the island by the electromagnetic energy after Desmond failed to push the button, which means the plane didn't simply drop out of the sky. Its descent would have been affected and steadied by the electromagnetic pull. We see that the tail section lands in a very unusual (and survivable) way.
Speaking more broadly on this point of how people survived, the show establishes that certain characters cannot die until they have fulfilled their respective destinies. We see this over and over again. The Island protects them from death until they have achieved what they needed to achieve. The plane crash is no different from the car accident that Michael gets into off-island. It is something that should have killed him, but The Island isn't done with him, so he survives. All of the Oceanic passengers go back in time later on in the series; they are weaved into the fabric of The Island's history, so they cannot die until they have fulfilled their destinies in the past. Like John Locke, Daniel Faraday and Juliet Burke. Whatever happened, happened. And until those events "happen", they won't die. Not from a plane crash, nor a bullet to the abdomen, nor falling down a deep hole in the ground. This is the unbreakable rule of reality within the mythology.
What I really dislike (and contest) about what you are saying is that if your theory is incorrect (that they were dead the whole time) then the show must be trash and the writing is "piss poor", simply because your own theory has not been validated. If you're wrong then the show must suck. This is such a bad faith way to view any fictional story. It has been exhaustively explained that the characters *were not* dead the whole time, both within the show, by the creators, and on this channel and elsewhere. The first time you watched LOST, you would have gone through six seasons of fantastical events. Long before you came to the conclusion that they were all dead. And presumably you didn't write any of those fantastical events off before you came to that final conclusion at the end. It's only now that your reading of the ending is being called into question that you try to throw the whole show under the bus. This is a very disingenuous position to take.
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 dude the 1st 2-3 seasons were great. Then ABC or whatever network stepped in and ruined the show, it was never supposed to be this long. I’m watching season 4 and it just falls of a cliff compared to the 1st 2 seasons. Just filler, backtracking, inconsistencies and bs to fill screen time. Thanks for trying to make sense of this garbage
If we can't learn together, we're gonna die lost.
Glad other people still care about Lost, was such a cool series
Thank you for this great video. It does get annoying having to correct people who completely misinterpret the ending. One thing I would like to add that's a great little detail the writers included is, viewers should pay very close attention to Rose and Bernard in the flash sideways. Upon rewatching, it's VERY clear they both know exactly where they are, and they're trying to guide Jack to what he needs to go. And it makes total sense. Rose and Bernard didn't have any unresolved issues before they died (whenever that happened), so they would have appeared in the flash sideways with likely full knowledge of what they were doing there. It's a wonderful way to see things.
Wow!! Great observation!
I wish they would have mentioned Claire's mom waking up from her 5 year coma. Probably Jacob healed her so that she would take care of Aaron when Kate is gone
Well done! I'll definitely be sharing. When people ask me about this, I usually remind them of the final scene in the film "Titanic."
Spoilers: Rose is an old woman who dies in her bed. We then see a young Rose walking up the grand staircase to meet Jack, with the other passengers surrounding them. Young Rose looks the way others remembered her, despite living to a much older age. She is rejoining the others in the "afterlife."
In the "flashsideways" when Kate tells Jack, "I've missed you so much," she doesn't look like her older self. She is her younger self, the version Jack new, despite the hinted-to fact that she went on to live many more years without him.
This is just my "elevator pitch" to quickly explain it to someone and get their gears to start spinning lol. You've provided all the information necessary and I'll definitely share this the next time someone is confused haha. Bravo!
I loved the Titanic example! Totally gonna use it... as a proper quote from you 😄
A great example! The ending to 'Titanic' might even have been an influence, consciously or unconsciously, on the church scene in the finale.
@@reatores Haha, thanks. You're too kind!
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 It might've been! Thanks for the compliment - it means a lot coming from such a smart person behind this fantastic channel! :)
You’re very kind. Thank you for the support 😊
Maybe we've been dead the whole time and Lost is our way of waking up?
It was all a dream of Vincent.
I think I’m on my 20th time rewatching the series
Wow, you went deep there at the end, with your parallels to how so many are denying there is any objective reality. I thought I couldn't love LOST more. Thanks for a great series of videos.
Before the final season aired, i remember thinking this could be the greatest story ever told. Felt burned at the end, but your videos have me thinking it’s time to rewatch it.
For those who believe they were dead the whole time, how do you explain Desmond, Penny, and Juliet being in the church in the end? If they were dead from the beginning (flight 815 crash), it means Desmond, Penny, Juliet and Ben never existed. So how are they there? 😊
And how can the wreckage at the end made people confused? Did they pay any attention to what Christian said to Jack in the church? "Everything that happened to you is real".
Some viewers were brain-dead the whole time.
That scene in the church with Jack and Christian hits me right in the feels everytime. Hard to believe that people are still asking this question; it's been answered so many times. However we have a new generation of people watching Lost now; so I suppose the answer is still relevant. I've watched quite a few reaction channels that feature Lost series and I always recommend your channel to them when they have completed the series. Cos lets face it, no matter how many times we rewatch, the island isn't done with us yet 😉
Thank you for recommending the channel to others :)
"How are... you here." Always gets me.
Before Jon Snow there was John Lock.
It's still my favorite TV show of all time! Thanks for these videos
You always come up with something I hadn't considered. Richard Alpert. Of course he would experience the Bardo back with Isabella in Tenerife. The most important thing that happened to him in life didn't happen with the Oceanic survivors, or even when he met Jacob, or when Jacob made him immortal-ish. Nice work.
To clear up the confusion: in the flashsideways scenes, these characters are dead. But no, they were not dead all along after the plane crashed.
As time goes on Damon gives more and more about the author’s intent with season six and the end. Your video series adds to the joy and mystery. Damon’s most recent interview on The Storm Podcast was quite revealing. The puzzle pieces fit better anf better.
I am sharing this every time someone says "They were dead the whole time bruh!" I can't tell you how many times I've had this argument with others online. You are doing God's work here! Or... The Island's work? Lol. Keep it up!
The answer to this question couldn't be more limpid than this video. It also made me want to find more about the Tibetan concept of Bardo, so I have just ordered myself "the tibetan book of the dead". That's what makes "Lost" so unique, it really does want to make it's viewers think... But they have to want to do that...Great work as always, thanks!
I was talking to someone the other day, she said she wanted to watch Lost but her friends spoilt it for her... I asked how?
She said " why would I watch it when I know that in the last episode it's revealed that the characters have been dreaming! That it was all a dream..."...
So yeah, there are people out there who even interpreted it as a dream😂I mean even the "they've been dead the whole time" theory sounds better at this point ...
I think the later seasons, especially the last season, play a lot better after a few viewings. S6 is kind of jarring because it brings in a bunch of new characters, a new location, & it goes deeper into the mythology. I really didn't care for it on the first viewing, but it's actually my favorite now & the finale is beautiful. The flash sideways parallels have some of the best writing imo.
Absolutely.
I've watched the series twice now. Once back in 2013 and I just finished my second viewing a few days ago. I remember being initially confused about a lot of the things that happened, however I remembered key events.
Remembering key events and knowing how everything ties together helped me to understand the things that confused me the first time around, and now I wonder how I ever didn't understand any of it.
Thank you for this excellent first video in your new FAQ series! I think you did a beautiful job of disproving and debunking the common misconception many people misunderstood about the show’s ending (whether from misunderstanding what actually happened when they first watched it; or from not really watching the show all the way through thereby missing important plot details or context; or just picking it up from misinformation they found online about the show from others and not watching it themselves). You also did a really good job of debunking this theory using only evidence and context from the show itself; and also without disparaging or insulting anyone who “didn’t get it,” which I thought was a really classy move. And I also loved how you likened the misunderstanding of what some people think happened in the show’s ending and choosing what they want to believe about it regardless of opposing evidence; despite an abundance of evidence to the contrary from both the show itself and the show’s writers; and comparing that to how these days in our modern world people will rampantly and wholeheartedly cling to misinformation about our current reality and believe it completely; and then ignore all the factual sources of information that are available that go against it because they go against what they already want to believe. It really does feel like people are debating objective reality sometimes even when the truth is right there in front of our faces (like climate change; the pandemic, etc.); and it’s felt like that for me for many issues and topics over the years and I’m glad to see others notice that too. Again; excellent work, and I can’t wait for the rest of your brilliant videos! Namaste!
Man, this is such a great comparison with nowadays misinformation!
Holy shit what you said at the end of this about objective truth and subjective truth and it being important more now more than ever in our real world to know objective truth was the best part to me. I was so happy you said that. God bless you. Also what i find interesting is how there was this supposed infection and need to have quarantine and masks on the island and it not being the whole truth about what the infection truly was. A bit of predictive programing there?
Yesss! Im so excited to watch! Even though I know a lot about the show!
Well, I think that everyone has stumbled with someone that says: "I understood everything from LOST since episode 3 and I stopped watching it". They are probably repeating the fallacy of the "purgatory"...
Oh, this video will be so useful when I'm not in the mood for explaining 😄 thank you again for the great content!
That was my main motivation for making a video on this subject. It's the most common question that comes up that many fans find frustrating to answer or address. I hope this video provides a comprehensive response to that question, which fans can reach for and share without breaking a sweat.
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 you bet it will! Mission accomplished!
Great and complete explanation. God I hate when people say “they were dead the whole time?”
bru, its explained in season 2 or 3 by hugos imaginary friend
its all a dream of hugo while he still is in the asylum. :)
Lol, I guess that would simplify this channel's output considerably! 😂
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 :'D
but i like the explanations.
Sept 2024 anyone?
Jack's Dad in finale: "You're real, everything that has ever happened to you is real... There is no now HERE"
My friend who's never watched LOST "tHeY WeRe DeAd ThE wHoLe TiMe"
Of course they weren’t
And the next time someone mounts a passionate defence of why they definitely *were* dead the whole time, you can link them to this video ;)
Yes I will lol
No way i can listen to a robot voice explaining this
All these older videos are being remade in some form.
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 I'm glad to hear that, because I've watched theory part 1 & 2 as well as truth part 1 & 2 and really enjoyed them but struggled a lot with the narration on this one.
All of these old video were remade, revoiced and improved and rolled up into The Theory of Everything series. This video was included in the final part of that series on “The Magic Box”. All six parts can be watched here:
LOST EXPLAINED - The Theory of Everything
ua-cam.com/play/PL5iTj9psbPrNovFOg4pJJIyxiLAv2WAKB.html
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 yes I realised that soon after my comment by reading another reply from you to another comment. I'm now watching Part 3 of theory. Thank you for your hard work and engaging with the people who comment on your videos. I've finished rewatching Lost recently and I'm always craving for more so your channel really is a blessing.
Thank you for making videos like all these videos on the channel. This is exactly how I've viewed the show for years now (trust what we see only in the episodes, trust the tale not the teller, etc.) And it's refreshing to have theories and assumptions I've made be confirmed by laid out evidence (especially in such a simplistic and informative format).
I hope this video specifically sheds light for folks who didn't understand the ending or didn't care enough to do so, because despite not being a man of faith myself, I still greatly appreciate the beautiful ending of this show and these characters in terms of closure. It's a fantastic ending that I think people dismiss (like the ending of St. Elsewhere) as if none of it mattered. This channel helped affirm my beliefs in theories I've had on the show and proved to me what an excellently woven tapestry it was and still is.
I'm so pleased to hear that this channel is reaffirming your faith in the show and reinforcing your own theories. Thank you for watching and supporting! :-)
this show defined my childhood. i was probably about walt’s age when it came out
I'm trying to set up an ''Ultimate LOST Reaction/Rewatch'' and would Iike to link to your stuff on the discussion site? You'll get full credit of course...
Please feel free to link to the channel and to any of the videos. 😊
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Thanks. This will be my lostie moniker...
I do not know if anybody took into consideration that the whole story can be an hallucination of Hugo. Many of his hallucinations also interacted with other characters. This something i thought about.
Thank you for everything, all videos!
There is just one question I still have and that is how the Dharma managed to "control" the elctromagnetic from the hatch with cement. From what we saw it all broke down in 1977 when they hit that point. How did they manage to get a grip on it the first time before the island got blown up? I believe you have answered already with how they set up the computer already and realesing the stored energy.
I will explore Jughead's detonation and what happened at The Swan site in more detail in the near future :)
Thank you for this video. I watched Lost when it came out. I never really understood the last season. I only recently started to rewatch obsessively and NEEDED to understand. Thank you!
The finale tells us that they were not dead on the island. It can't be any more clear.
And yet people still ask this question. I made this video for posterity in the hopes that people who are unsure about what happened can come here and download all of the data surrounding this question.
Wow this is such a great explanation! Thanks!
Yaaaaas!!!! Finally!!!! I live for these!!!!!!!!!! Your the best!!!!!!!!!
Show creators insisted the whole time they weren't dead, so it's not purgatory.
People go right to they've been dead the whole time and I'm like no Christian said what was going on just watch that scene it explains everything its all real its all bloody real now push the dang button lol. I printed out these fan art things from computer put them all together like a big poster still up on my wall lol I never got how people are like they've been dead lol. It wad obvious to me lol
I could never really find the flashsideways interesting once they were dead there. Any reasons to find it useful? Or maybe it was because I watched knowing that before
They should have just shown a character montage instead of the wreckage shots.
Hello, not sure where i'd ask these questions and i hope i didn't miss their explanation somewhere
1. The hatch, what happened at end of season 2 - what did Desmond actually do that "fixed everything"? Were there any consequences to it? And what would've happened without his intervention?
2. Why was Benjamin Linus anywhere near the survivors in S2? Obviously out-of-universe it's because he wasn't supposed to be their leader until the showrunners were impressed by Michael Emmerson, but has there been any in-Universe explanation for it? What was his actual in-universe purpose for being/going there?
Cheers and thank you for a wonderful series.
These are two questions I absolutely intend to get around to answering in the FAQ. :)
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 just like Lost, I'll tell u when it's time.
Edit: pulls gun out of nowhere, tell me now!
Thanks for the reminder @Dalmain J! I have actually answered both of @Gogeta's questions now. The first -- about Desmond and the consequences of the hatch implosion -- are discussed in both my video on Jughead (ua-cam.com/video/gdWERJIjyQE/v-deo.html) and the Pregnancy Crisis (ua-cam.com/video/2LI7ZNBdwLM/v-deo.html).
While the question about what Ben was up to in Season 2 is thoroughly explored in my videos on Henry Gale (ua-cam.com/video/ApZJ-1uE7vE/v-deo.html) and the Lockdown (ua-cam.com/video/GecPdvpKq0I/v-deo.html).
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 I had honestly forgotten a bit about this channel - but this reply reminded me, and i'm going to check out the videos you linked.
I have another question for you if you don't mind - Is there anything in the show you found to be not that well explained? Or just simply ended up being dissatisfied with?
What, in your mind, even if there was a logical explanation for it, could've been handled better, either conceptually or in execution?
Thanks again and have a lovely day. Cheers.
Firstly, welcome back to the channel! 😊 I’ve started using my own voice in videos so the latest four will sound different. I am told that it marks an improvement over the text to speech voice I was using, so hopefully you will find the same.
To answer your question: Oh yes! Definitely! I have a list of things that I take issue with from the show. For starters, the outrigger. There is no reason why the writers could not have found a way to close that loop even if they had to change their original plans. My video on the outrigger offers my thoughts on how it could have been resolved. Danielle Rousseau’s death and character arc being cut short still bothers me to this day. Ilana’s missing backstory (and abrupt death) was a mistake imo, there was more they could have done there; give her a flashback episode and a more respectful send off. Walt’s absence from season six all together is a sticking point - why couldn’t he have been brought back on the sub with Desmond? I will eventually make a video detailing my qualms with the plot elements I was left dissatisfied by and offer up my own suggestions on how they could have been fixed. 👍 But yes, there are plenty of issues I have with the show as a result of the writers not knowing how to resolve story elements they had set up. Most of my complaints surround dropped plot threads rather than the things they actually answered in some way or concluded.
I believe it didn't happen but it was a show a few made using actors to make money
God I love your channel. YES! Someone else gets it all. Lost shows how lazy people are to get truly involved.
🙄🙄🙄🙄
So glad you started doing your own voiceovers
My Theory of the finale episode .. was all about the Death of Jack. Jack dying on the The island happens ... Flash sideways is all about Jack finding his way
I tend to view the final scenes in the church as being from Jack’s perspective, especially when he walks into the church to meet everyone. But Christian does tell him that this is “the place you all made so you could find each other” which suggests it’s a shared “bardo”. I mean, if the sideways was all just Jack’s bardo then why would he create and experience the deeply personal details of the other characters, for example John Locke and Helen’s relationship, or Sayid’s love for Nadia who is now married to his brother? How do their specific personal issues and hang ups from their real lives feed into Jack’s afterlife? I feel like if we make the sideways all about Jack then it diminishes the afterlife journeys that all of the other characters go on, and all of the personal issues they resolve.
So, I agree only partially in terms of the actual final scenes in the sideways being exclusively from Jack’s POV but I tend to view everything we see in the sideways as being manifested by our Losties as a collective rather than simply revolving around one individual.
I probably watch the series 15 months or so twice
No, next question.
Believe it or not but this question comes up... ALL. THE. TIME. I wanted to do a video on it for posterity.
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 lol yeah good idea
The show runners went out of their way to allocate blame to everyone but themselves. Don’t create fake mysteries and expect the audience to not want answers when you keep telling them every answer will be revealed.
I hope they are paying you well to defend them on such a ridiculous and thorough manner
They didn’t blame anyone. They’re proud of their work, and as they should be. There are no fake mysteries in LOST, I don’t even know what that is supposed to mean. Is that an opinion you have borrowed from another UA-cam channel per chance? Every mystery did have an answer, they just might not have been answers you liked or realised were answers. Maybe if you actually watched the videos rather than prejudging them based on bitter memories of the series and misconceptions about what happened in it then you might actually find yourself appreciating the show for what it actually was, not what you assume it was. I’ve converted many, many haters and naysayers. And proven wrong away many, many cynics.
26:45 Totally true. My brother refuses to understand any of my arguments. He hates the serie, specially the end. It's too hard trying to convince him.
It's part of the reason why I made these videos. To speak to the fans, of course. But to also try and help the show's detractors and critics see the show in a new light and untangle the mythology so it is less complicated and more accessible for them. Usually the people that hate on LOST simply misunderstood a lot of what it was about and feel like there were no answers. They felt betrayed by the story and never went back for a second look. But the show is full of rich answers and complex ideas and various threads. I hope this channel proves that and has helped fans and critics alike.
I thought they died when they set off the bomb. What exactly did the bomb even do?
I explore everything to do with the bomb, how it exploded, and what that explosion did, in my video on DHARMA, time travel and Jughead: ua-cam.com/video/PzhKFeyqVjw/v-deo.html
Beautifully written
I’m pretty sure that sometime in the church, some says explicitly that everything actually happened after a question about “everyone was dead”.
This was always enough for me.
Edit: 21:39 I knew this channel wouldn’t disappoint.
Yes, Christian Shepherd says that to Jack. I highlight that dialogue in this video.
jacks dad said something along the lines of 'some died on the island, some dead after a long life off the island, everything that happened jack, happened'
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 me and my terrible habit of commenting before watching the whole video.
But I had no doubt you would mention it.
Looking forward to the next video.
I need to know
Not 100% satisfied with the final season, cause it felt a little rushed but still the best show I ever watched.
Great and intriguing content
I’m always replying to people who ask this annoying question online 😅
If you want to save yourself time in future you can always just share the link to this video 😆
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 I will 😆🤣
When I was 8 years old in 1976 I was run over by a car on highway 80. I literally died right there I was with God for a brief moment. I was revived and brought back. For two years I had to learn how to walk again and talk again and feed myself. After this experience my whole life has not seen like it has been real. Maybe I have been living in a flash sideways this whole time. Many people have asked me what it was like to die and be with God. The only way I can put it to where most people can understand is if I won a lottery with billions and billions of dollars. I would give it all away just for a few more minutes. There are no words in any language that can describe that feeling.
I just noticed the symbol for the temple on the map is similar to Tagruatos symbol. I love JJ Abrams.
I’m lost 😡
Then you've come to the right place to be found ;)
I get what the writers were going for, however as a mega fan I hated the ending. When I say ending I mean the entirety of the final season and last 4 episodes of the 5th.
The writers decieved their audience from the start with all the mysterious happenings that they never paid off.
What mysteries do you think didn't get paid off? I'd argue that more questions were answered than left unanswered.
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 What's the deal with Walt and what happened to him?
What's up with the numbers? Why did they need to be entered into the hatch repeatedly? Why could some find the Island easily or seemingly by chance, yet when "the chosen needed to go back they had to go to the special station? What is up with Clair's baby? What did the psychic see? I have more. .
You've come to the right channel.
Walt explained: ua-cam.com/video/6WlXp9JGhCA/v-deo.html
The Numbers explained: ua-cam.com/video/fwcGQhdMuBY/v-deo.html
The DHARMA Initiative (which explains the hatch): ua-cam.com/video/Kvq_6z6GcwE/v-deo.html
Why the island was hard to find (and why some could find it and some couldn't): ua-cam.com/video/_Epe4B2kZFo/v-deo.html
What was with Claire's psychic: ua-cam.com/video/TUg_oC8qLb8/v-deo.html
Most these questions were either answered or had enough information given that the answers could be deduced. In the case of Walt, there were practical reasons why his story came to an end early. But everything is explainable. Check out the videos. If you have more questions, let me know!
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 WOW 2 years later, I STILL hate the ending.
Do you think mt hatred of the ending is justified?
You’re absolutely allowed to not like the ending. That’s okay! My job on this channel isn’t to force people to like the ending or the show in general. I just want to make sure everyone understood what was going on really. For some people it might make them like it a lot more and for others it might not make any difference at all. Just as long as they have a better sense of what was being communicated within the story. How you feel about LOST is totally legitimate either way.
Whatever happened happened. I think that is the most important lesson.
The message delivered between 25:48 through 28:04 (especially 26:24 - 26:43) is so important. Thank you for conveying it so eloquently (and thank you for sharing this thought-provoking video).
I'm really pleased that you picked up on that section as it applies to this aspect of how people tend to misread LOST, but also broadly applies to everything going on in our world today.
It doesn't matter if they were dead the whole time or not - the Island was Purgatory. People eaither reached Salvation or Damnation while on it. No one escaped this fate. It doesn't have to be a "literal" Purgatory - it is definitely a metaphorical Purgatory.
I totally get what you are saying here, but the reason why the question does matter IMO is that those who take the island as being purgatory literally tend to misunderstand the fundamentals of the narrative they watched. And it has become a pervasive misconception about the show that undermines both the on-island real world storylines and the point of flash sideways itself. The video was made to help dispel that myth really.
When Ben shot Locke and left him in the Dharma pit to meet 'taller Walt' was that MIB impersonating Walt? Jacob? or Walt himself, considering he was 'capable of being in different places than he should have been'? Walt tells Locke to stop the boat coming which makes me think it's MIB since Widmore as indifferent as he is, is trying to protect the island.
I answer and address that question here: ua-cam.com/video/6WlXp9JGhCA/v-deo.html
Hey! I just finished watching all of your videos (except for the 5 hour one, gotta find time for that one lol). I loved the way you explained things and connected the dots together, truly a fascinating work. For this I'd like to show them to my family who are watching it for the first time, we're on 2x22. The thing is we're from a spanish speaking country and my dad misses some things in english, so I wonder if it could be possible to add spanish subtitles to your videos, mainly for the 30 videos you made. I would volunteer myself for adding the subs, but I don't see any option for me to do it. Hope you read this, and find a way to find a solution for this, it would be great. Again, you made a really incredible job with all this videos. Looking forward to the next FAQ!! :)
If they weren't dead the entire time how did the "outside world" find flight 815 on the bottom of the ocean? How can the plane and their bodies be in 2 places at once? I think that information confused a lot of people like me.
Enjoy your breakdowns going to have to go through them all now lol The Leftovers was great by the way.
There are several reasons and misconceptions as to why some people came to the conclusion that the characters had been dead the whole time, which is why I made this video. I don’t hold it against anyone, just seeking to offer them a clear and evidence-based explanation as to why they misunderstood things.
As for the 815 plane wreckage, it is explained in the show that Charles Widmore setup that wreckage at the bottom of the Sundra Trench in order to stop the search for Oceanic 815. He didn’t want anyone finding the island. And he had decades to plan this since he had known since 1977 that Oceanic 815 would crash on the island. You might just be bringing that up as an example of why you were originally confused by the story and not as an actual question to be answered, I just wasn’t sure if you wanted me to respond to it.
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 I appreciate the response. I am going back through the show again, at the end of season 3, and have been torn. I always felt like they had to be alive but at the same time I think I missed some things and didn't understand some others leaving doubts in the back of my head. That is why I deced to do a search to see if I could find a more educated and detailed opinion as to what happened. Thanks!
What drives me crazy is that Claire's baby is in the church scene lol. But, not gonna lie, it is still my favorite show❤️ Thank you for this channel!
But because it's a subjective dream-like state, from Aaron's POV he could have been a fully grown adult in the church surrounded by his mother, Charlie, Aunt Kate, Uncle Jack, and his own friends and family members. That is what's great about the concept. We see the church scene only through Jack's eyes, but it might look and feel different to everybody else there. There are no rules anymore.
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 That's true. I didn't think of that. Locke is still middle aged, etc. Thank you👍
So question: why did Desmond tell Jack that the plane never crashed and that none of this matters?
If you recall, Widmore blasts Desmond with a high level of electromagnetic energy to test his resistance. The exposure briefly dislodges Desmond's consciousness from linear time. During this blip, he experiences a small glimpse of the sideways. But he doesn't understand that it's the afterlife yet and he won't experience it fully until his death. All he knows about the sideways reality is that the plane hasn't crashed and things are different for everyone.
It is worth noting what Jack says to him in response, and quite confidently. This line is clearly Jack speaking on behalf of the show too: "There are no shortcuts. No do-overs. What happened, happened. Trust me, I know. *All* of this matters."
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 oh okay I get it
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
You are certainly free to believe whatever you choose lol.
The bit in the video where you talk about some fans ignoring concrete facts in the show an thinking everything is up for interpretation reminded me of that Adam Savage quote.
Ahh the MythBusters guy? Sorry, I didn't pick up on that being a quote. But yes, it's a very apt usage of it!
Your Lost Explained videos sound like you trying to write a unifying theory on lost. I would not call any of your videos FAQs (if that is some holding space for "facts").. This one especially where in you seem to have started out claiming they weren't dead the whole time and then going off in a completely different direction and talking about how they were dead on the island, and coming back to everything that happened was real while going on to crap on anyone who says they were by saying they are wrong and don't understand the premiseof the show. Its like you lost focus and went off on a few tangents here rather than sticking to a direction and providing your evidence that way.
First of all, I do not "crap on" anyone who says they were dead the whole time. I go out of my way to explain why that misconception has been perpetuated and to quote the video: *"People who believe they were dead the whole time are not bad people nor are they deserving of ridicule."* Your comment is frustrating to read because either you didn't watch the video fully or you are wilfully trying to mischaracterise my arguments. Either way, I really don't appreciate the distortions, and it's not a good faith way to start a conversation on here.
Second of all, the video stays on topic and doesn't lose focus at all. The whole substance of the video is answering that main FAQ (which stands for Frequently Asked Questions) and discussing the reasons why this misconception is out there, and how it came to be. And I never claimed they were dead on The Island. Again, that's another misrepresentation of what I said. The Island technically doesn't exist anymore in the Sideways; it's sunk at the bottom of the ocean. The only time the characters are all dead in LOST is within the Flash Sideways, which is taking place after everyone from the real world (where The Island still exists) has died.
This is why I made this video BTW. Because even now people get confused by this, even those who think they understand it. This "they were dead the whole time" theory is demonstrably incorrect, both by using the facts established within the show and by what the creators have definitively stated outside of the show. The video covers all of this ground in much detail, so I'm not going to rehash it all again in the comments.
Now, I can see that you're clearly someone who has carried this belief for a long time about the show. And you have taken umbrage at this video because it contradicts your preconceived understanding of it all. But that's why I made the video: to correct the record for people with that same belief, and to do so without making judgements on them. I'm not calling anyone names or being hostile just because of a long held misunderstanding. I'm just laying out the established facts for them and discussing what makes that theory objectively wrong. But when it comes to subjective enjoyment? If you want to continue treating the show as if they had been dead the whole time because you enjoy the narrative more that way then that is absolutely your prerogative to do so. You can watch and enjoy the show however you want. But what you can't do is challenge other fans in this arrogant way as if we are the ones who misunderstood the show and are somehow in the wrong for not agreeing with a theory that has been widely debunked within the story and outside of the story.
A lot of what goes into these videos aren't just theories. Much of the information I present has been demonstrably proven on the show itself and I back-up what I say using scenes and dialogue and interviews. Most of what I am doing is simply unpacking what was presented in the story or connecting dots that were both intentionally and unintentionally left in the narrative. Damon and Carlton have gone on record as saying that they want the show "to speak for itself", and I think a lot of it does. However, six seasons of complicated mythology (and retcons and narrative detours) can be hard for the average viewer to untangle and make sense of. That's where I come in. It's about explaining both the big and small things. Anyway, the point of this channel is to take canon information from the show, occasional confirmations from the creators, and extrapolate when necessary on the more ambiguous elements that were intentionally left open.
If you wish to discuss these aspects, or even try to make a case for your own counter theories then I'm always happy to engage. I encourage that. But if you are going to come at this by totally misrepresenting what I said (which you have), or by being obstinate in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, then that is not a good faith discussion. I want every LOST fan to have the chance to be part of the channel and community on here and to chat openly about the show, but that's not a free pass to be disrespectful simply because you haven't had your own theories validated.
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 If you are gong to troll anyone, you might want to develop those skills a bit more. You indeed did say what I said you did. You might also want to re-watch your own videos if only to make sure you are not losing focus of your over-arching conjecture. You might further want to make sure that the person you intend to troll has indeed not lived up to your comment of "Did you even ever watch the show?" I in fact have the entire 6 seasons on dvd and have watched it numerous times over the last decade. One of your rebuttals to another comment by me has you saying that the plane was s guided by the electro magnetism of the island and the crash was survivable. You do realize that 80% of the plane consists of aluminum which s not subject to electro magnetism. There are many videos on UA-cam of lightening strikes on planes in flight.. further suggest that you look up the literary term allegory.. That aside I will amend my statement to that of they were dead the entire time they were on the island. ( The plane is going over a body of water as a method of transport. similar to the boatman transporting the dead over the river Styx in Greek mythology...allegory) This amendment should met the stipulations of the writers who say they were not dead the whole time. and that would be true in all the back stories of all the characters. I have another couple of perspectives that would better explain lost. But I won't bore you with them. As far as my "obstinace". To me you are heavily projecting yours
Thank you for not boring me.
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108its all a simulation now explain westworld!!! And if you cant, does it matter?
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108so they show different dimentions all connected to the one were they did in a plain crash to others where they did not. Different stories same endings or same stories different endings y,av twisted me melon man
No
They weren't dead the whole time but it's still a question that people ask and has been a misconception perpetuated for years. This video is designed to help those people understand why they are wrong in the most thorough, evidence-based way possible.
I think they were dead all along and were able to have the adventure they wanted to have on the island before moving on. Jack even says in the third episode that 'they died three days ago' and later on when they are moving to 'caves' one of the main characters comment that the plane wreckage is going to be taken into sea because of all the big waves that are happening. I don't recall ever seeing any of the plane wreckage ever again in that show after they move and all the crazy plot starts to occur. Except for when the wreckage is shown on the beach in silence. Did it just wash back up again on shore?
Watching it again on my 1080p collectors box set - such a beautiful show to watch!
Not sure if you've watched the full video, but I use evidence from within the show and outside of the show to definitively prove that they were not dead the whole time. The creators have also gone on record as stating that the characters were not dead since the plane crash and that this is a pervasive misconception about the ending (I include interviews with them here). This video will unfurl all of that evidence for you. Really recommend you watch the full thing.
This audio is awful
I didn’t have recording equipment back when these were made so had to use a text-to-speech voice. But I did remake everything using my real voice (which I’ve been using for two years now). You can find updated, revoiced versions of these old videos split into a six part bumper series featuring more detail and TLC here:
LOST EXPLAINED - The Theory of Everything
ua-cam.com/play/PL5iTj9psbPrNovFOg4pJJIyxiLAv2WAKB.html
I hope you’re not a tory
This is an incredibly random comment.
Anyone got a timestamp for when he actually answers the question? Its a yes or no question dude. It doesnt take 30 minutes. Answer the question, and THEN if you want to say more, that's fine. But just answer the got dam question.
It gets answered at 1:55. Hardly an epic length of time to wait.
yes. they were dead the entire time. all islanders were on the plane. its the life flashing before your eyes concept
No, please watch the video as it explains in detail why that is a fundamental misunderstanding.