Attack on Titan a new ending- Video Essay
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- Опубліковано 25 лют 2023
- skip to 3:00 if you have seen/read all of aot
This video has two parts, the first for new viewers of aot and the second part is for people who have read to the manga ending.
My hope is that at least one new viewer of attack on titan watches the series as I propose in the video by watching to episode 80 and then skipping to episode 87 and ending it there.
hope you enjoy the video! I'll be posting more soon I promise
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“We did it guys, we stopped the rumbling”
Marley Solders: Back to your internment camp, devils!!
Attack on Titan truly teaches a valuable lesson:
Nothing you do matters because people will hate you no matter what, violence is inevitable, in the end we're all simps, some mysteries should remain unsolved, and most importantly trying to please everybody will please nobody
Loved the continuous minute and a half clip of eren beating the shit out of armin
fr sadly he could not beat the moron out of him
I always suggest to people, to take a long break after s3, and even watch other shows, then when they are ready for s4, rewatch the show from the start before going into S4
I do that every time lmao rewatched the whole series and watched the new special finale episode on release day, it feels more complete that way.
I’m actually thinking about doing that, Rewatch up until season 3 take a good long break and watch some other animes then come back once I’m prepared for the hell season 5 puts us through 😂
thats what i did i rewatched aot so many times before season 4 and once more when it aired
I think I could watch Eren beating up Armin on a loop.
I personally think a different ending is going to happen. The anime literally cant adapt chapter 138, because the see you later panel isn't in episode one, which remember, was overseen and altered by Isayama. Why would he remove the single longest piece of foreshadowing if it wasn't for a alternate purpose?
nah, it was a production mistake by WIT studio for eps 1, also there's a leak for final season part 3 today that Mappa will bring in the see you later scene eps 1 style so it will be make sense when Part 3 cour 2 aired
@@petinjuhandal3.099 cope
@@aurorapaisley7453 bro...the scene is clearly there and the leaker is right, also if there is a new ending it must have been leaked by the leaker because that's a really big thing.
always coping then
@@petinjuhandal3.099 could u link the leak?
Guys ITS LITERALLY BEEN CONFIRMED THERE IS NO AOE
8:41 The Floch and Hanji scenes were actually fixed in the Cour… It shows Floch was shooting aimlessly and ended up hitting the plane, while Hanji actually bought time for the Alliance (but the manga really fucked up how it was meant to look)
Ever since I read the ending of aot like 5 months ago I wondered why people were so furious with the ending because while I did think it was flawed I still thought it ended the series really well. This video perfectly encapsulates the reason why some people despise the ending so much and it's given me a broader understanding on the world of aot and hatred of the ending. While I still really enjoy the ending I appreciate having your point of view to pretty much answer all of the confusion I had when I read the ending. Thank you for creating this. Keep making content bro!
Also having that one panel where Eren wishes selfishly to have Mikasa love him for ten years at least, only to be read in a whinny tone instead of cool Eren voice was hilarious. Really good use of Paraprosdokian
I took Eren crying in the end as him breaking down after so many years of repressing his emotions, him saying he doesn't want mikasa to look at anyone else, is just him lashing out and regretting not being able to be with her, all of this is really in character for eren,
as for the Ymir and mikasa relation, it's never stated Ymir herself can look into the future, in my opinion she's just watching Mikasa since she was a kid because she relates to her, and wants to see if it really is possible for someone like her to let go of her blind love, it's not that mikasa was the one destined to show her that, it's that she happened to show her that,
armin being "the one who saves the world" and talking to the marleyans to let the eldians live is a nod to when he convinced the soldiers to let eren live, eren trusts armin will be able to advocate for the eldians, he trusts he's capable of doing that as he has trusted him before and always,
as for eren killing his mother, it's not that he is a slave nor that he really wanted to do that, but the founding titan can't change the past, only interact with it, the past is already set in stone so there was no other way forward, it had to happen, it just unfortunately ended happening by Eren's hand, same as when he talked to his father,
eren is a tragic character, yearning for freedom and happiness, but never being able to achieve it himself, instead he achieves it for his friends,
also the last panel of the new tree doesn't mean titans will come back, it's a symbolism that no matter how many years pass or the wars in the future Eren's legacy will never fade,
in the end he managed to do one thing: he wiped all titans of the face of the earth
P.S: sure the ending was rushed and it shows in the dialogues, but i think Isayama got across the points he wanted for the story and it's conclusion, even if not in the best quality, but it's all there, it's a satisfying ending if you understand it, the issue it's that it's not that easy to understand, i just hope the anime fleshes out the dialogues and scenes more, to get those points across better, and no i don't want any AOE or any ignoring of the cannon as i think the overall ending was perfect, just the execution wasn't ideal
average shitty interpretation of ch 139. never gets old, i've given up on arguing with ed schizos
I agree. I couldn't have said it better myself
Somebody gets it! Thank you!
I agree about the laughing bit. Eren was having a mental breakdown at Sasha's death. C'mon after going through all that with your mates you'd probably be closer than family. Hearing one of them died in the room next to you then last words were one of their signature lines would have broken anyone. He took it differently considering how his mind was all mixed up at the time. So this too applies.
Agree with everything but your interpretation of the last panel
I've always thought that the whole entire point of the story was to show the struggle between "humanity" (the love, respect, and camaraderie people have for each other) and "biology" (the need to ensure the survival of one's kind so that they can give rise to future generations). Eren is the physical representation of this struggle, as he as a person has immense love for his friends (like what he expresses during the train scene) but is also somewhat controlled by the Attack Titan (the titan whose whole purpose is to continue pushing forward to secure the survival of the Eldian race). In the end, Eren chooses his humanity, and in turn, his friends.
When Eren gains control over Ymir, it's because he is the only one who understands how deep her love is for the world, however sick and twisted that love may appear. Zeke couldn't do it because he was too focused on solving world peace. I imagine similar holders of the Founder's power failed for the same reason. They were too focused on solving problems to understand why the fuck everyone is actually born: just to live and have a decent time doing shit that you LOVE. This information is literally spoon-fed to readers in chapter 137 during the conversation between Zeke and Armin in Paths.
I think Eren thought that the only way for peace to actually occur was to make titans go away. The only way to do this was by setting Ymir free. How does Ymir get set free? She sees Mikasa kill Eren. Why does this set her free? Mikasa's immense love for Eren was comparable to Ymir's love for King Fritz. King Fritz was doing super shitty things as the man at the helm of the Eldian Empire, just like how Eren was doing shitty things himself (like killing billions of people). The only way to stop King Fritz was to kill him, but Ymir "loved" him (I agree that this is gross and weird, but keep in mind this is the only love that she knew as a slave), and refused to kill him. The only reason that Ymir was still alive in Paths is because she was still a slave to her love for King Fritz and the family she built. If Fritz died, then her whole reason to keep living within Paths would die too, ending the power of the titans. Mikasa LOVED Eren, like a lot, obviously. But she knew that the only way to get Eren to stop was by killing him since he literally told all his friends via Paths that it was the only way to do so. In the end, she chose to kill him. Ymir saw this, and was like "oh damn maybe it's okay to let go to this love if it means ending thousands of years of violence" and promptly peaced tf out, taking the power of the titans with her.
Eren didn't want to Rumble the fuck out of the world (there are countless scenes showing Eren's grief) but it was the only way that he could draw that parallel to King Fritz that caused Ymir to learn the lesson that would eventually FREE the world of the titans. Freeing the world from titans would temporarily end the hate the rest of the world has for Eldians, leading to his friends living out the rest of their lives in relative peace. Eren didn't give a fuck about the future of humanity, only his friends. Does that seem illogical? Yeah, but love just be that way sometimes.
I believe in your video you say something along the lines of "if Ymir can see into the future, then why didn't she end things sooner" (or maybe you didn't but I want to address this anyway). I think it's because to the Founder, everything happens all at once. It's like what Eren said: his thoughts had become incoherent because the past was happening at the same time as the future. I'm not going to explain further because describing how omnipotent beings perceive time is impossible but I think I've made myself clear.
I am an ending defender, but I do have to admit that the way that all this info is delivered in the story is MESSY. It is very difficult to piece together and it took me a while. I'm not here to say that I have supreme media literacy, but I enjoy diving deep into narratives. This is just what I've pieced together. Isayama could have done a way better job getting this stuff across to the audience, especially since so much of this is introduced at the very end, which leads to a feeling of dissatisfaction.
There's a lot I haven't been able to explain in this fucking essay I ended up writing, but oh well. I might add more later.
Great video by the way, I think your proposed way of watching the show is really cool.
The ending was about putting events into perspective. Just as we see events from thousands of years ago is how they wanted to show the lives of all of our favorite characters. They are a blip in history and war and fighting never really ends. This puts more focus on who they were rather than what exact impact they had on the world because people always fight no matter what. They wanted to show many themes getting tied up at once:
They also wanted to show that the titans weren’t the only cause of war.
They wanted to show that Ymir and Eren both yearned for freedom and while being difficult to understand and so powerful were both really just children in the end with uncontrollable emotions and urges.
The ending was meant to be confusing and unsettling so there can be no simple way to end the show and stop thinking about it. It’s realistic in the way that nothing is wrapped up cleanly. There wasn’t some grounded meaning to all of their actions or all the lives lost but instead it was just something that happened in history. I think it would have felt cheap if they just said there was peace forever after the battle of heaven and earth.
I just finished the anime. And i agree with this. I was sick to my stomach when i finished the manga and didn't want to watch the anime. It was better but that feeling still remained. It would have been better to stop it where you suggested.
Just watched aot with my family the way you said and they absolutely loved it. Now we are theorising what happens next, cheers!
That’s awesome!
Can’t say I’m too excited to watch the rest of the anime now lol
jesus christ you people are sad. Lemme get one thing straight. The manga ending has served a greater purpose which none of you know of. Isayama is a genius. And all will be revealed on Friday. I suggest looking back at the picture of the devil with ymir, from the series thats been teased so many times. And also, has a bloody scarf on the Devil's side (eren's side) and a clean intact scarf of Ymir's side. Whilst Ymir is giving a gold apple to Eren the Devil. Thats all im gonna say. Figure it out yourself. AnR ending is coming
We won
We have all the proof
We will love to see there reaction special of the ending haters
Btw in 87 episode , manga eren was shown , not the anime one , black hoodie
@@buzzhell4811 where exactly ?
@@mgrizzlee ayo grizlee
@@rajveersingh2k04 yes?
just watch it all if you aint already watching it as it came out because your binging it any way plus its the best
I totally agree with you. How eren broke down and wanted mikasa to love only him, also how the founder's power messed up his mind. That's something way off his character. Not to mention the fact that founder ymir loved the king(this sucks). I believe the ending is not good. The point of never getting freedom and that eren died without changing anything can be a little acceptable, still not that much but its atleast better than how eren's character and motivation completly took a downfall. I hope things make more sense in the anime ending. Who knows if we will get an original ending, but i look forward to it.
but Eren always cared about his friends and Mikasa. He literally used his yeagerist in order for them to hate him and use him as a leverage to make peace with the worlds once they successfully stop the rumbling. Ymir being still in love is not far fetched as she still come back to the king even with all the powers. You are just dissapoint because even you got manipulated by Eren like he manipulated zeke and the yeageris lol
@@superrio5374 Yeah that's true. Eren is the true hero. He make the world seeing his friends as heroes. Like saving the world..although they're eldians.
And you know like..his dream, who wants to destroyed all of the titans in s1, it becomes true. When he dies in manga, the titan power has gone from the world. And, it's for his friends too. Like connie can see his mum, annie can see his father, also they can live longer than just 13 years right? Its for them. He loves his friends. He cares about his friends. He's doing that for them.
And what about paradis island? Yeah, eren choosing to trust them. And choose to die. Yeah. He wants his friends to KILL HIM. Its his plan.
Cause he's already help them. Like, destroying the 80% of the world. And, its help paradis so much right? But at the end, paradis is destroyed. It's so hard going through all of this for him.
So personally, i think eren doesn't really want to do rumbling..for his freedom. He is doing that, because of his friends. Its just....temporary freedom for his friends and paradis.
To me, that sounds super in character for eren💀. Breaking down crying about his friends.
I dont even care about anything except that timelines are proven. I just think that the timelines theories are so cool.
exactly bro. i think that the reason eren was a slave to ymir (eventhough i dont want to beleive it) is that the timelines all converge with eachother. which is why i do think there will be a aoe.
@@j0eyz I your right AOE and timelines.
See this idea of stopping the series at 87 is good because you might feel sad when you see the ending and realize that eren didnt achieve what he wanted,, however the way the manga shows how eren does not get what he wants but has to sacrifice yet again at a gamble which ends up bad for eldia shows how sometimes not all ending are happy. But its just my opinion.
Bro Eren beating up Armin at the end tho like that
I think one of the meanings of the story is spelled out pretty well by Armin during his chat with Zeke. Enjoy the little moments in life. Sure life can be cruel and damn near unbearable, but look for the light in the darkness. If AoT ended with an ambiguous “Eren prolly destroyed the world the end”, I don’t think the series would have stuck with me as much as it is. The ending is extremely flawed, but that doesn’t mean it’s not worth experiencing
I do agree, It's awesome that you had that take away from then ending and I do think there is a lot of good in the chapters following the start of the rumbling. My real hope is that the anime makes some changes to stick the landing better. I think the best approach is to watch the series like I proposed in the video and then after a long break or a re-watch to watch/read to the cannon ending.
@@collateral8920 if they can just make Eren and Armins conversation in the paths more fleshed out, I’m fine with pretty much everything else. For me that’s where a grand majority of the issues lie
@@goku1414101 eren does not have romantic feelings for mikasa.
@@D14MBK he does. Ending legit showed that
@@goku1414101 Hence why the ending is contradictory because he never had romantic feelings for Mikasa.... You fckibg idlot. The ending showing that is the exact point. Wtf is wrong with you? Do not be this braindead when talking to me
bro , I wish your channel prosperity , your thoughts are very reasonable , Isayama wanted to take a break before the end , because he burned out inside , it seems to me that all the pressure that was exerted on him resulted in a yogurt eren sitting in his own urine ( a small reference to himself )
as a fan from 2015, i have to say that this ending has convinced me
Why do I feel like AoT is going down the road of evangelion and it will eventually produce a new continuity in a movie series
"the show shouldn't have had an ending bc I didn't like the ending"
yup! feel free to watch the show however you would like.
@@collateral8920 So insightful!
Pretty much. Pathetic honestly lmao
A bad ending is worse than no ending unironically
This only works in the manga. You can read from 1-123 &130-131 feeling complete. But in the anime you miss out on the rumbling episode if you do it this way, the literal payoff to the rumbling buildup and erens character development is gone. So it feels anticlimactic. Of course that means youd have to finish watching 12 minutes into s4 part 3 which is weird.
my thought exactly! I think I may have even mentioned it in anther one of my videos.
I know from the anime, has change up and put out different scenes (yet some kept the same) from the Manga for Season 3/Part 1, so I less guess something Anime will mostly do the same to the final, but it is on depends on Mappa itself. While nobody else knows on what until the end.
I honestly hope there’s gonna be a different ending cause I know we all don’t want the current ending.
ngl I'm on Eren's side still. The only way to be truely free of war and have peace is to kill everyone else, yes there will be peace, but first there must be death.
Peace founded on a sea of blood and a mountain of corpses will not be a land of peace for long. This story explains and drives home the point that there is no breaking the cycle of violence.
This is why you can't ever give people absolute power. Because against all logic there are people like you running about and it's good AoT exists to remind us of that sad reality.
Time to watch another person grow. You got this man
Bro how do you only have like, 11 subs? You definitely deserve more
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video.
Did the anime's changes to the ending change your mind at all, or do you still stand by watching it this way? Just curious.
you know i never really understood why everyone hated the ending, it was always alright to me and i never had a reason to dislike it until you brought up such good points. hanges death, the fuel tank, the bird shit, the ruining of erens character. i 100% understand now that the ending we received truly wasnt on par with the rest of the brilliant story. praying for a slight turn for the ending of the anime just some conclusive satisfying shit would be nice for sure
titanfolk and other morons online have completely destroyed the minds of people, I honestly loathe all of them. The ending was great, when its animated it will be even better, the internet or really the mainstream audience absolutely loved the newest special that was realeased, and they will love the 1 to 1 ending of the manga when it comes out. I think the problem AOT faces is that there is a loud minority of people on the internet that are sour just because they didn’t get their way. Its not that they didn’t understand the manga, the manga makes sense its why they nitpick small inocuous things that aren’t important to the story(eren crying about mikasa for example)
They thought things were gonna go one way, they sat and theorized with each other ever month about what was gonna happen next, and they became so sure of it that when isayama pulled the rug out from under them they felt stupid cause its like “what? He can’t do that! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO END LIKE THIS!” it is sunk cost fallacy and like children they started trashing things that were honestly not deserving of such pointless, childish criticism.(lets save the world alliance panel and eren crying because hes gonna die and can’t spend the rest of his life with the people he did this for, comes to mind)
Me personally I read the manga all in one sitting when it all came out, I thought it was great, I thought it made sense, It wrapped up many plotholes and questions I had, every action made by each character made logical sense to me based on how their individual character arcs played out, and they all fleshed together to make 1 cohesive story. The series ended in a way that was grounded in reality and rational emotions from very complex characters it was a hurculean task and isayama did it in a way that was still satisfying and happy considering everything that has happened, and that is something im more than ok with.
The endings theorized on the internet for “how it should have ended” are all cringy stupid traumaporn where eren stands over rubble with his blond historia baby proud of the destruction hes made(like that makes any sense for how erens character is from what we’ve seen) its cringe, its a terrible poorly written ending that honestly spits in the face of a complex character like eren.
Eren is a 19 year old who saw the future and was unable to change that, he didnt want to be anyones slave and yet he became one in order to save the people he loved from their imminent demise. Its a tragically beautiful story. Hes a flawed character, but his motivations in the manga are well spelled out to the reader and people still make fan theories that would have went completely against his character.
Tldr: the ending was great, id really like to argue with anyone that disagrees with it, could it have been more fleshed out? Sure. But the themes are all still there you just gotta find them.
First Timeline (Cabin) In Ch.138, Eren didn't want to kill billions of people, so he didn't do the Rumbling and died from 13yr Titan Curse. Second Timeline (Manga) Eren woked up peacefully in Ch.1, Did 80% Rumbling and wanted to make the alliance look like heroes (Code Geass did it first) and then died from Mikasa by getting his head cut off. Third Timeline (Anime) Eren woked up shooked from a nightmare in Ep.1, eventually he remembers the Manga Timeline if you watch episode 87 closely. These memories give motivation to Eren so he could do 100% Rumbling and save Paradis from Discrimination and Cycle of Hatred unlike Manga Paradis being bombd
He's still going to due though
I prefer that people read the ending themselves and make their own conclusions since I have seen some people love. I'm in the middle when it comes to the ending. I liked Mikasa stopping Eren. Levi finishing off Zeke and him seeing his past comrades. Jean c*cking Eren. Reiner surviving to end. However Ymir being love with Fritz and Eren not knowing why he did it was a fumble.
Honestly, the only hope i got for the anime ending if the timeline thing. But it's still gonna be similar to manga ending so...
Honestly the plot points of the ending are fine, its when you look with a maginfying glass it bgets muddy. All we need is some better writing, more fleshed out motivations. It seems Isayama just wasnt given the time to explain everything that he wanted and so it came out...weird. Im not an AOE believer, I think AOE people are missing the point of the whole story, but im also not a 100% ending defender, i see and admit the flaws. I disagree with eren crying though. It makes total sense, for years he was supressing his emotions, and now in his final moments he admits them to his best friend. Gotta realize Eren isnt even an adult, hes 19. Practically a child still, the age of a freshman in college. You think college freshman are adults? hell no! thats just me though. I like the ending, but it NEEDS to be expanded upon for me to fully say i think its the best way for it to end
So you're one of those people who think people who don't like the ending didn't understand the story?
@@guangxi1654 i mean from this video it kinda seems that way my dood
mikasa decapitates Eren in the end and kisses his corpse.
How I interpreted the ending is different and I'd like to share my perspective.
I believe the theme of giving up one's dream is prominent in AoT. As Kenny says "Everybody is a slave to something". There is always something that pushes a character to do what they're doing. An example of this would be Erwin. He seemingly fights for the good of humanity, but we later learn that what's pushing him is a selfish need to know the truth. He was contemplating abandoning the Survey Corps to reach the basement before he dies, but ultimately he chooses to let his dream go. We can see the same scenario with Armin giving up the ocean as well. The narrative treats this action as heroic. On the flip side, we see Reiner who seemingly fights for the good of Marley, but we learn in his conversation with Eren that what drives him is his need to be recognized and become a hero. Ultimately, Reiner was not able to let go of this dream despite being fully aware that he is killing innocents.
For Eren what drives him is freedom. The problem is it's very difficult to define freedom, so we have to ask what is freedom for Eren? There are others who would interpret this as the survival of the island, but I disagree. I believe Eren's freedom is visually represented in "This is Freedom" scene. Every action he does, from casting his friends away to activating the rumbling is so he could reach this scenery. Like Reiner, he realizes the actions to get to this point is pure evil and it eats at him, demonstrated with Ramzi. Ultimately, Eren is not able to let go and essentially sacrifices everything around him, including but not limited to his mother and a chance to have a life with Mikasa.
As for the consequences of Eren's actions, we see that Paradis is destroyed at the end. I believe this is thematically consistent with the cycle of violence AoT portrays. We have learned that Eldia and Marley have essentially been at war for 2000 years, committing the same atrocities to each other. The rumbling perpetuates this cycle of violence, in fact Eren even describes it as the "ultimate violence". We see characters like Sasha's dad aware of this cycle and says that the current generation must shoulder the hate so that it isn't passed down to the next generation. We also see that this hate can be changed to understanding through Gabi's character arc. Eren isn't really concerned about this though, and so the cycle between Eldian and Marley continues as implied in the last panel.
With all that being said, I don't really disagree with your interpretation. I still thought the Ymir/Mikasa connection was poorly done. I could see this working if King Fritz wasn't portrayed as pure evil, but how it is at the moment, it's pretty terrible. To be honest I didn't like the ending when I first read it. I was watching the anime with my anime only brother only through this "rewatch" I was able to piece this interpretation of the ending. I don't know if it's because the anime portrays its themes better or it's because I've had these ideas cook for a longer time. Anyways, sorry for the essay I wrote, hopefully you have the chance to read through this.
Great insight and probably something I that the author intended! I personal don’t like that interpretation because it runs counter to what I believe is important in life, I believe giving up on your dreams is unforgivable and not the right approach to live life. It’s awesome how the story explores all sides of such complex issues
Although i do agree that the series ended terribly, i dont think eren announcing that he will commit the rumbling should be the end, it just feels like an abrupt way to end the series. I think the way the series shouldve ended was eren explaining to armin in paths that he is destroying the world because he has no other option that would protect paradis, and that he and everyone else has the freedom to stop him, but if they do try one of them will have to die and that armin should stay home and live a long fulfilled life and that would be the last we see anything of eren from his persepective. Then it continues pretty much the same fixing a few flaws and only 80% of marley gets destroyed instead of 80% of the world and then in the epilogue have it so that paradis was able to sign peace treaties with the surviving nations, however due to the mistrust that lingers in the populace since most of the world didnt actually have to witness the horror of the rumbling a world war with paradis inventing the atom bomb and ending it like the US did in WW2 leads to a cold war where one day the worlds arsnel destroys the world due to peoples hatred. So essentially a similar epilogue to the manga, however i think paradis inventing the atom bomb causing everyone to hate them again them helps prove erens justification of commiting global genocide, like yeah you can create treaties and integrate paradis into society, but you cant solve a millenium old grudge, and eventually that grudge will come back so its best to wipe out all the hatred in the world. Anyways i think this gives the story a bittersweet ending, the bad guy was defeated but the problem that created the bad guy was never solved and it caused much more carnage than what the bad guy intended, making you question would it have really been better for the bad guy to have succeeded
I became disinterested after the formation of the cringevengers,
I am going to make my big brother watch the episodes in that order. Upto 80, then 87 directly. The disconnect will throw him off. It's mad af. I myself will watch it that way until all of part 3 comes out...maybe I will never watch the end, because I like the idea that Eren flattened the entire world and no one was capable of stopping him, then he ultimately succumbed to the curse of Ymir or something, leaving behind a legacy in the form of Historia's baby which is Ymir reborn.
Eren is a bird now?
The look of the mommy had decided every thing already 1:13 🥲
@15:05
I wasn't sure if this was humor or what when first reading it. But I considered this to be how GANTZ ended. Writer was in a time crunch, sped things along and just filled up the panels. Then the ending contradicts everything and makes no goddamn sense. The manga ending to AOT was incredibly flaccid. Years of build up for nothing.
Honestly, the only way Attack On Titan's ending can be saved is if Iseyama pulls an End of Eva.
The current manga ending happens in the anime, and it's the first timeline. The second timeline is when Eren completes the rumbling and finally frees the Eldian people but kills all his friends. The final timeline is Eren completing the rumbling, but everyone aside from the Allience is killed, and he ends the curse of Ymir and removes titans from the world.
I've coped enough for one lifetime with the idea of an AOE so to give myself closure I'll make my own ending
First don't forget who sent back the one who ran away in the very first timeline-
Then we can talk about what's wrong with the crying panel;
Like that's not how eren always used to be;;-
I enjoyed your take on the ending up until the last few minutes of the video where you mocked what i thought was a nice "touch" from Isayama, that's when I knew you were that kind of person... those panels symbolize a lot of things and if you think they're silly I can understand why you didn't like the ending.
and what I get from people who hate the ending is that they hate romance or they're less human, there are so many character changes whether it's sudden or slow. eren whining to armin how he loves mikasa and wants mikasa to think of him even if he dies is the most humane thing I've ever seen, eren knows he loves mikasa but he only has 4 years and he's also tied to his future (arguably becoming ymir's slave) to end titan's power (freeing ymir) hence why eren made a timeline where mikasa & him live in the cabin for 4 years and then he dies because of titan's age, then "see you later".
but still I respect your opinion about the ending, as a person who is "OK" with the ending,opinion of people who hate the ending makes me Hype this Part 3...
For me I dont like the ending as its both rushed, has sloppy dialogue and while I think the themes and many character actions explored at the ending could work well I feel most were executed poorly.
@@joshuawalters7520 yup, we all agree that the ending was rushed... Now the anime has a chance to "fix" it, otherwise I will accept it as it is and move on...
I think u should watch this video will change how u look at eren its a hour long video but completely worth to get something useful conclusion and getting what isayama was thinking when writing aot and ending was completely right if anything happened other than present ending it would be more confusing for the story
People are not getting that Eren did complete his goal. His friends lived long lives and that's all he wanted. They were bombed when Mikasa was an old lady lol, they lived a long life because of him. Eren wasn't some Eldia nationalist like young Grisha with a greater purpose, he is literally a crybaby killing the world because it wasn't what he liked. Just like a kid getting angry when the toy they longed for wasn't all that they expected, the child throws a fit. In this case, this child has a goddam Nuke, so think about how cool is it from that point of view, a story about an ignorant child given the power of a god, not a story about "freedom"
Then he should have just gone with Zeke’s plan😂
@@collateral8920 Thats why the ending still sucks lol
Then he just could have done the mini rumbling to achieve 100 years of peace but as He Said IT himself He "won't gamble the Future of paradis" and then His Character Turns 180 anyways 💩🤓
Btw when did the fake previous panels got actually finished ??
Except the 139 one
wether the ending is good or bad skipping is always a horrible idea to do becus it ruins all the build up, all the actions you skipped that lead to that moment, ofcourse you are bound to be disappointed if you didnt process all the build up and skip to the end, like for example if you skipped from season 2 or the beginning of season 3 to end of season 3 when the whole survey corpse ended up dead just for levi to beat Zeke for him to run away after, you would be hella disappointed, but this is not how you watch any story, this video idea is a waste, you couldve just talked about the ending alone becus thats what could be disappointing, not the rest.
have you seen episode 87? its a flashback episode to events before the time skip between season 3 and 4. I please it at the end of my proposed ending as a sort of epilogue for episode 80. your not really skipping anything, your just stopping short.
There are so many loose ends but you’re right
If it ended with eren destroying the world that would be the inevitable ending to his dogmatic belief that only his people mattered.
But also all the Ymir stuff is confusing
Why does that worm thing have to do with Ymir’s power after death???
Bc that worm thing started all life???
Ok so why does she have power after death but no other
Eldian does ? Once they find the worm why are they trying to kill it??? Wouldn’t make another founding titan. Is it stuck just to Ymir l???
wtf is going here????
And definitely if Ymir made her own choice why the hell is it still connected to zeke????? Who cares about zeke he couldn’t do anything
And didn’t he die bc eren used all the dead. 9
I thought this was following ares type deal. Ares believed that mankind was the problem and getting rid of man was the way to a peaceful world . This is closer to the truth as ridding the world of titans doesn’t fix the root problem. Getting rid of titans is no different then getting rid of guns. You can make anything a weapon and man will still war and suffer. So Zekes plan will not work either
I agree withnyou bro, the ending is a confusing mix of nonsense. It ruins the most important and impactful scenes
I already watched the whole series and the last chapter of the manga. I was disappointed
the timeline of aot are the paths itself... there are infinite outcomes and infinite events with some moments in the show that have to happen like anker points ( like eren saving mikasa or erens mom has to die no matter what + many more) those are fixed events but everything else has multiple outcomes but we as the readers/watchers can only witness a single path and only get little glimpses of other timelines. only the founder sees all the paths all the outcomes at the same time that’s why eren apologizes to the random child that gets stomped later because in the end it doesn’t matter if eren decides to start the rumbling or not because there is always a path where this kid gets stomped because every decision and every outcome has already happened and only he is able to witness it eren probably saw every single event that can and will happen in every single path the moment he touched historia that’s why his brain overloaded
there is a path where eren runs away with mikasa but there also is a path where he starts the rumbling just like with ymir there is the path that starts the story we know where she jumps infront of the spear but also we see a little glimps of the path where she doesn’t do it and cares for her children and never starts the titan story at all because she passes away at some point and the powers will be lost forever because nobody eats her and that probably starts the filler school arc of aot so in my opinion even this off canon arc is actually canon
Huh I knew some things about what would happen, but I was under the impression that the reason he let his friends fight him was because freedom is important to him especially his and his friends freedom so I thought it was his way of saying okay we disagree so I'll at least give you a shot at stopping me cause even if you do manage to do so I'll have still done enough damage to cripple everyone else and stop them from going after paradise.
Man i forgot how much of a mess 139 was. I was just so disappointed of simp eren that it simply put the whole chapter in my subconscious. Yeah, this whole chapter made no fucking sense at all.
Hy hope is that they made Hange's sacrifice worth it, she really bought them time, im sure Isayama can think of a better conclusion.
bruh you gotta warn me before using dub clips, my ears bleed 😖
Dub is nostalgic to me, plus it’s better for people just listening to the video
@@collateral8920 no hate bro I jest, I'm just very used to the sub & I love it, it's a strong preference tho.
I like the dub
@@PsychicCatTCG ok
You’ve made some good points, but if you think Eren’s character changes when he’s laying on the ground whining about how he doesn’t want Mikasa to move on, you’ve missed him bitching and crying the entire story. Eren has literally always been a crybaby.
No the ending is the way it is for a specific reason
I actually liked the ending.
I rlly hope the anime changes the ending
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Mi kasa es su kasa.
Is that really hie it ends... I'm so pissed now that's awful
I think people are so disappointed with the ending is because they wanted it to end 'good' for all the characters. That's not what this show is about. It's about showing that every generation in any place goes through a struggle and that in the end when enough people who lived through it have died and no one is around anymore to remember that it doesn't matter.
This is the human curse. History maybe doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes. The same things will happen again under different circumstances. This ending is so hated because it throws the viewer back to reality that this is the truth.
This is what humanity will be until it's extinction. And that makes us not feel good. People want fiction and fantasy.
But this show is reality.
People despise it (me included) because it turned out to be just a way to make eremika canon and everything else about their war and everything was just forgotten...aot isnt a love story
I dont really like then ending but I felt like the shit he did and said wasnt justified per say but like i feel like its more Eren's Mental health and morality in general being detoriated because of everything and then the memories rolled in. Like dont get me wrong genociding 80% of the population is fucked up but imagine you somehow saw you doing something on that level in some type of vision or some shit. The amount of shit would in your mind and everything like damn.
The ending feels like a dream armin had after being knocked out by eren. I kept half expecting armin to wake up on the floor after eren just finished beating the shit out of him.
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Ok first off eren confessing to armin is probably the most human thing in all of aot I mean who do you think eren is God no human he's 19 fucking 19 and the mikasa plot line made much more sense then eren cause like I mean eren was really just to generic espically when erens sort of freedom speaks none of how ymir lived while mikasa perfectly represents ymir was always by the sidelines to their lover and the fact that only eren realized it just goes to show that and the actual ending about eldia is definitely the most realistic thing I could imagine do people just assume cause the mc sort of won means rhat its all happily ever after cause no no its not the ending perfectly describes the cycle of hatred in modern world and since the dawn of time and the titan curse being reborn is even more realistic just as Hitler traumatized jets now put in is destroying Ukraine for what reasons war do we learn yes but do we improve no now I do agree historias plot was completely useless but if historia and eren did have a kid they'd basically be sidelining mikasa which makes no sense since she's the main deturaginist now the eren and armin though we'll it really just sucked it made no sense why armin forgave eren after everything they went through because of him and what makes this ending tragic and ironic is that this exact samething happened by the past generation so it really goes to show titans we're never the probelm humans were now to think oh what if eren won and wiped out all of humanity the infighting within the walls would just counting and turn into another great titan war as yes all the titans excluding the founder Warhammer and attack died human desire is the samething that started this in the first place and even if eren is a respected figure there's still people who hate him and there always will be.
I hate it another nightmare ending like in death note they killed the mean character not fear
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Why mk eren say he doesn't want Mikasa to look at anyone else when all she did was look at him the whole anime I hoped eren ended with historia that makes more sense. Can't watch S4
One thing that gets me about all of this is how Ymir just happily smiles and watches Mikasa holding Eren's decapitated head. I get she was a slave and had a bad past, but making someone else a slave to you so you can use that person as your doll in a dollhouse to play out dreams of what you wish you did for yourself is disgusting to me. Also, being happy to see him be killed by someone who loved him just to make yourself feel better? Disgusting. Eren isn't the one at fault for wiping out 80 percent of humanity - Ymir is. Ymir is the one who basically led him to do everything he did for a very specific outcome, which was his death. Her being a slave, she should have been like, you know, hey wow it'd be pretty shitty to make a slave out of someone else since I understand that it's like
inb4 someone comes in hating on me because uwu she was a slave she can do no wrong uwu even if it means making someone else a slave right to their death and involving all these other people and wiping out 80 percent of humanity to see her dream of doll number two murdering doll number one to live out her dreams of being free at the cost of millions of people's freedom uwu
I do think Eren tried to justify what happened to himself and to Armin, such as using the Rumbling to kill the people who kept waging war against them to try to wipe them out (which was the entire world because they were creating an alliance together to kill everyone the island, so technically he, at seemed to be, justifying genocide with genocide. Saying hey look this is the fear you brought on my people and now it's your turn). Then there's also, well either that happens OR they come to stop me and kill me and be seen as heroes.
Since Eren is only 19, well, I think it makes sense that there would be flaws in both these plans. Obviously they weren't perfect but I don't think he could do much in his situation if anything at all except try to justify it to himself and give it a reason, because Ymir's influence was in true control as opposed to him in control of himself (which is supported by him telling Armin how his head is muddled and stuff).
Ignoring the lackluster ending overall, I think my biggest point of aggravation is how they didn't put enough explanation in to the specific fact that this was all Ymir's doing and that Eren was always calling himself free because he /wanted/ to be free but was not truly free. I wish it went more in depth about Eren was a slave to a slave and what his real feelings about all of these storylines really were (such as like, would he have personally desired to use the full, real Rumbling if it had been wholly his call and he hadn't been influenced by Ymir).
At this point I kinda wonder if Isayama's original ending of killing everyone would've just been better LOL.
I think Isayama failed to tell us that Ymir herself is kind of a scumbag. If you look at it from the perspective that even tortured souls can be inherently shitty, it's kind of poignant. The world of Attack on Titan is an echo chamber of hate and misunderstanding. (Love your comment).
It.wont happen hajime will continue with manga ending
God.. why eng dub sounds so wrong mann- out of pitch, emotions and all..
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Aoe plzz
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The rumbling finally starts
Collataral: The End!
Thats dumb
My interpretation (Eren is a genocidal nazi that just wanted to kill everyone because he's stupid) led to me believe that this story was written by the most idiotic writer ever.
This ymir interpretation leads me to believe the same thing.
The first 80% of attack on titan seems like a fluke to me. There's no explanation for the extreme decrease in level of writing.
If anything attack on titan, as every other story that fiddled with time travel did, tells us that nobody should EVER write about time travel. Nobody has ever done time travel well. Nobody has ever understood time travel.
Tbh the time travel shit is quite bearable...what bothers me most is how the show is trying to justify Erens actions and and how it was pushing for love as a theme which felt absurd...Isayama was trying to push for the "interpret the ending in your way" type of thing like other shows but he failed to do this...aot isnt that type of show for that...Isayama sucks at writing philosophy...what pisses me off more was that they kept the same ending for the anime yet we were promised an anime only ending
if you dont enjoy the original ending, you are simply not mature enough to enjoy the ending LMAO
bro ur ending would of been the one that fucking sucks "he killed the rest of the world the end..." no wonder ur not the one making the anime but actually the comapy is, ending of aot was amazing and great just as it needed to be
Just here praying the anime disappoint those delusional folks who think eren love historia and he's the baby father, want 100% of the world wiped, the alliance to be k1lled and Annie being executed, i hope Isayama never change the ending 😂
You’re literally a loser. You waste time searching up aoe theiry videos just so you can validate yourself by hoping it doesn’t happen. Go get a life
Good vid